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  • [00:52:36] <idwer> hrm
  • [00:55:22] <idwer> http://wiki.beyondlogic.org/index.php/BeagleBoneBlack_Building_Kernel#Compiling_the_BeagleBone_Black_Kernel_2 <-- the third line with CROSS_COMPILE returns 'no rule to make target'
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  • [00:55:49] <idwer> but arch/arm/boot/dts/am335x-boneblack.dtb[bs] exist
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  • [00:58:07] <idwer> irc logs show that it's an ubuntu quirk? see http://mer.bfst.de/logs/%23beagle/%23beagle.2013-11-07.log.html
  • [01:01:11] <idwer> it would make sense to compile the dts (which was already compiled?) and therefore instead pass uImage-dts.am335x-boneblack
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  • [01:22:34] <idwer> TooLmaN: hey
  • [01:22:51] <idwer> TooLmaN: did you ever solve this problem? make: *** No rule to make target `uImage-dtb.am335x-boneblack'. Stop.
  • [01:25:19] <TooLmaN> idwer, I haven't built a BBB kernel in a while. This error says something is missing from your compile statement, usually. start a fresh build with a stock kernal image to make sure you can compile on your system. Once that succeeds, change it to what you are looking for. Make one change at a time, build/compile and move on. You will find the one causing the error. I would double check the help fil
  • [01:25:19] <TooLmaN> es on building for BBB and see if you've missed anything. Good luck
  • [01:25:43] <TooLmaN> Ignore my typos. I'm tired :)
  • [01:29:15] <idwer> stock kernels don't seem to have an uImage target
  • [01:29:53] <veremit> no .. stock images are zImages
  • [01:30:00] <veremit> only angstrom was uImage
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  • [01:30:19] <veremit> the only difference is it has a bit of uboot tagged on :)
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  • [01:38:51] <idwer> it?
  • [01:44:33] <veremit> kernel image
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  • [01:45:33] <idwer> the zImage or uImage?
  • [01:45:46] <idwer> uImage, right
  • [01:45:59] <veremit> zImage is gzipped .. bzImage .. bzipped .. uImage has a uboot thingy
  • [01:46:25] <veremit> I don't think its gone xzImage yet lol
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  • [01:52:10] <idwer> ..running https://github.com/RobertCNelson/stable-kernel/blob/master/build_kernel.sh which doesn't have 3.14 yet
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  • [01:52:18] <idwer> or does it :)
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  • [02:15:37] <k-man> what are the pins you have to put a resistor across to force booting from the SD card on the BBB?
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  • [02:39:16] <Beagleboner1944> Hello
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  • [02:41:00] <nyt-> wow just tracked down what was interfering with my alarm
  • [02:41:37] <nyt-> pretty sure its this
  • [02:41:39] <nyt-> https://www.adafruit.com/products/1120
  • [02:42:13] <nyt-> k-man: bbb boots from sd by default
  • [02:44:08] <k-man> nyt-, no it doesn't
  • [02:44:40] <k-man> i'm talking about the external sd, not internal flash
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  • [02:48:33] <anujdeshpande> the new debian image consists dtbs in /boot/uboot/dtbs. I was wondering where they kept the dts ?
  • [02:50:13] <nyt-> anujdeshpande: check /lib/firmware
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  • [02:50:32] <nyt-> k-man: http://ahsoftware.de/Beaglebone_Black_Boot_explained.svg
  • [02:50:36] <nyt-> it will boot from sd card if available
  • [02:50:40] <nyt-> otherwise will boot off emmc
  • [02:52:14] <anujdeshpande> nyt-: it consists of the overlays. i want to make changes to the am335x-boneblack.dts device tree. the one on top of which overlays from /lib/firmware are loaded.
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  • [02:57:18] <k-man> nyt-, well mine does not, i have to hold that switch down to boot from sdcard
  • [02:57:26] <k-man> nyt-, cold booting that is
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  • [04:25:29] <rahul_> Hii all
  • [04:25:40] <rahul_> I installed debian on my BBB
  • [04:25:49] <rahul_> i need to work on qt
  • [04:26:14] <rahul_> so i installed qtcreator, it is asking for toolchain which one to use in debian?
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  • [04:27:47] <tbr> are you going to cross compile for x86 or MIPS or what?
  • [04:28:25] <rahul_> x86
  • [04:28:48] <rahul_> I had downloaded the qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.8.5.tar.gz from qt website
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  • [04:29:05] <tbr> what on earth prompts you to develop for x86 on a BBB?
  • [04:29:28] <tbr> that must be the possibly most inefficient workflow I've seen in a while
  • [04:29:40] <rahul_> Nope.. you are getting me wrong, i dont want to make app for BBB only
  • [04:29:59] <rahul_> I want to use qt over my BBB
  • [04:30:22] <tbr> then start at square zero, explain your setup
  • [04:30:32] <rahul_> Ohk
  • [04:30:47] <rahul_> i began with installation of debian
  • [04:30:48] <tbr> what is on your desk that you are trying to work with. keep in mind we don't see that from here.
  • [04:30:50] <rahul_> on BB
  • [04:31:18] <rahul_> I
  • [04:31:26] <rahul_> sorry
  • [04:31:48] <rahul_> i installed debian on my BBB and now i want to install qt 4.8.5 over it
  • [04:31:54] <rahul_> so that i can make app on it
  • [04:32:11] <rahul_> and now i am ob ubuntu 12.04
  • [04:32:52] <rahul_> And also i want to make app over my ubuntu desktop and so it can run over my BBB
  • [04:33:13] <tbr> which debian version are you running on the BBB?
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  • [04:34:04] <rahul_> 3.8.13
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  • [04:37:34] <tbr> that is not a debian version
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  • [04:43:02] <rahul_> tbr - 7.5
  • [04:44:51] <tbr> ok, so it's a wheezy
  • [04:45:25] <tbr> wheezy has a complete qt 4.8.2 in the repositories, why aren't you using this?
  • [04:46:45] <rahul_> how to use that? by apt-get?
  • [04:46:53] <tbr> yes
  • [04:47:02] <rahul_> i did it with that only
  • [04:48:09] <rahul_> tbr, i am getting that i have no space left
  • [04:48:38] <rahul_> http://bpaste.net/show/wKNSIjlY7utbEGanA5Zx/
  • [04:48:41] <rahul_> see this
  • [04:48:52] <rahul_> it is showing only 4 gb of space
  • [04:49:08] <rahul_> but i am using 8 gb card
  • [04:50:13] <tbr> you seem to have dumped a lot of stuff on your device then
  • [04:50:39] <tbr> also you could probably just resize the rootfs partition and the fs
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  • [04:52:38] <rahul_> tbr, yes .. :(
  • [04:52:46] <rahul_> now do i format it again?
  • [04:54:04] <tbr> you could just delete whatever you put there or resize the filesystem...
  • [04:54:57] <rahul_> can you help me with how to do it?
  • [04:55:08] <rahul_> do i delete the packages in archive?
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  • [04:57:07] <Korque> <k-man> what are the pins you have to put a resistor across to force booting from the SD card on the BBB? <-- I worked around this problem with a debian SD card by adding mmcdev=0 to uEnv.txt
  • [04:57:27] <Korque> the same thing on an sd card with angstrom didn't seem to work, though
  • [04:57:57] <Korque> (uEnv.txt on the card's fat partition)
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  • [05:06:26] <k-man> Korque, ok thanks
  • [05:06:32] <k-man> its all very all over the place
  • [05:06:57] <k-man> i tried already deleting the something or other file - but i made a mistake and delteted it from the SD card by accident - then I couldn't boot at all
  • [05:07:07] <k-man> but luckily i had a backup and was able to recover
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  • [05:42:24] <rahul_> i now installed BeageBone Black Ubuntu Precise 12.04.3 LTS
  • [05:43:12] <rahul_> as i am trying to ssh it it is asking for password what is the password- i tried ubuntu, beaglebone, root but it is not working
  • [05:43:41] <ds2> what user?
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  • [05:44:22] <rahul_> i am trying with ubuntu-armhf@ip addr
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  • [05:45:09] <rahul_> and also done with ubuntu@ip addr and root@ubuntu.local
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  • [05:46:04] <rahul_> any suggestions?
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  • [05:53:35] <rahul_> help me please
  • [05:54:39] <johnwalkr> where did you get the image?
  • [05:54:40] <LetoThe2nd> rahul_: read the notes where you downloaded ubuntu. usually user/password are written there.
  • [05:54:47] <johnwalkr> ubuntu / reverse is one
  • [05:55:24] <rahul_> johnwalkr, i got the image from armhf
  • [05:55:27] <rahul_> websit
  • [05:55:28] <johnwalkr> ubuntu / ubuntu and ubuntu / temppwd are others i’ve run across
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  • [05:55:48] <rahul_> http://www.armhf.com/download/
  • [05:56:00] * tbr really starts to favor developer images that come with authentication disabled, root, enter, in.
  • [05:56:15] <johnwalkr> Ubuntu Logon ubuntu-armhf as user ubuntu with a password of ubuntu
  • [05:56:25] <johnwalkr> but tbr for ssh that usually doesn’t work
  • [05:56:36] <johnwalkr> images that require a display or serial on first boot are annoying
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  • [05:57:30] <johnwalkr> rahul_: “Ubuntu Logon ubuntu-armhf as user ubuntu with a password of ubuntu”
  • [05:57:54] <johnwalkr> those are not really clear directions but the host is ubuntu-armhf.local
  • [05:57:58] <johnwalkr> user and pass are ubuntu
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  • [05:58:17] <rahul_> johnwalkr, you mean ubuntu-armhf@ip addr
  • [05:58:20] <rahul_> ?
  • [05:58:41] <johnwalkr> no
  • [05:58:45] <rahul_> so?
  • [05:59:00] <johnwalkr> ubuntu@ip address
  • [05:59:12] <rahul_> yes i tried
  • [05:59:18] <rahul_> what to put in password
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  • [05:59:27] <johnwalkr> or ubuntu@ubuntu-armhf.local
  • [06:00:01] <johnwalkr> you can use the hostname.local (usually, maybe not if you are on windows) or the ip address
  • [06:00:12] <rahul_> I am on linux
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  • [06:00:20] <johnwalkr> according to here: http://www.armhf.com/getting-started-with-ubuntu-img-file/
  • [06:00:28] <johnwalkr> it’s ubuntu/ubuntu
  • [06:00:38] <rahul_> but it is not working
  • [06:00:58] <johnwalkr> then i dunno :(
  • [06:01:05] <rahul_> i tried with ubuntu@ip and ubuntu-armhf@ip
  • [06:01:15] <johnwalkr> and password ubuntu?
  • [06:01:24] <rahul_> yes i am putting it
  • [06:01:47] <johnwalkr> can you ping ubuntu-armhf.local ?
  • [06:02:12] <rahul_> ping: unknown host ubuntu-armhf.local
  • [06:02:15] <rahul_> getting this
  • [06:03:04] <johnwalkr> ok, then maybe it’s not flashed correctly, or you somehow used a different image
  • [06:03:06] <johnwalkr> do you know the ip address?
  • [06:03:21] <rahul_> yes i know
  • [06:03:49] <rahul_> i flashed it by xz -cd image > /dev/sdb
  • [06:05:05] <johnwalkr> when you use the ip address for ssh, it prompts for a password?
  • [06:05:20] <rahul_> Yes..
  • [06:06:13] <johnwalkr> the only thing i can think of is if you somehow got a different image onto it, on linux most of the time the ubuntu-armhf.local hostname should work
  • [06:06:36] <johnwalkr> try login:ubuntu password:temppwd
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  • [06:07:14] <rahul_> not working :(
  • [06:07:47] <johnwalkr> do you have a serial cable to connect to it?
  • [06:07:56] <johnwalkr> failing that i would jsut start the whole process over
  • [06:08:17] <rahul_> No i don't have
  • [06:08:31] <rahul_> i have screen with me but is not showing any thing there
  • [06:08:36] <rahul_> no signa
  • [06:08:39] <johnwalkr> oh
  • [06:08:49] <johnwalkr> yeah i would just start over
  • [06:08:57] <rahul_> how?
  • [06:08:58] <johnwalkr> chances are it will save you time
  • [06:09:15] <rahul_> Ok,
  • [06:09:24] <tbr> johnwalkr: bull. of course you can configure a distro so that you can ssh in as root with no password.
  • [06:09:33] <johnwalkr> i know you can
  • [06:10:48] <rahul_> do i flsh it again?
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  • [06:11:44] <johnwalkr> yeah rahul_. for no particular reason (except maybe that the armhf site is often down) i prefer these images: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#eMMC:_BeagleBone_Black
  • [06:12:21] <johnwalkr> i just used that ubuntu image the other day
  • [06:13:36] <rahul_> so do i start from here?
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  • [06:31:08] <johnwalkr> yeah rahul_ , sorry missed you message
  • [06:31:21] <rahul_> i have a debian image with me
  • [06:31:27] <rahul_> i am trying with it
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  • [06:31:38] <johnwalkr> that “flasher” image is really easy
  • [06:32:00] <johnwalkr> if you want to get ubuntu onto the emmc anyway
  • [06:32:12] <rahul_> johnwalkr, i didn't unterstood how to do it
  • [06:32:58] <rahul_> i downloaded that script file
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  • [06:33:05] <rahul_> but where to place it
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  • [06:33:44] <johnwalkr> oh, no
  • [06:33:53] <johnwalkr> sorry, those instructions could be clearer
  • [06:33:59] <johnwalkr> the link after that is a prebuilt image
  • [06:34:02] <johnwalkr> much easier
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  • [06:34:24] <rahul_> yes i downloaded that one also..
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  • [06:38:54] <pzebelloni> Hi! On several BBB rev. B I notice serious problem in power-up: almost never BBB starts when plugged to +5V AC adapter (bought from Farnell as BBB suggested companion). May somebody suggest a solution?
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  • [06:45:33] <tbr> pzebelloni: a) do the boards have the dog on the stencil?
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  • [06:49:53] <pzebelloni> No. Sorry for the delay... BBB was boxed
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  • [06:53:26] <pzebelloni> The problem is the same in all the first 3 boards I checked out, part of a group of 10.
  • [06:54:59] <pzebelloni> They start after several short pushes on power botton, keeping on +5V power.
  • [06:57:23] <pzebelloni> I changed also u_boot.img and MLO files with the patched versions, as suggested somewere... I don't remember where I'we read about a similar problem.
  • [07:02:15] <tbr> pzebelloni: would you please answer my question?
  • [07:03:02] <pzebelloni> No. There is no dogs in stencil.
  • [07:03:54] <tbr> so it looks like the one on the left? http://www.cnx-software.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Embest_BBB_vs_CircuitCo_BBB.jpg
  • [07:05:10] <pzebelloni> SORRY! The one on the right! I've fond the dog!
  • [07:05:28] <tbr> ok, that again is interesting
  • [07:06:22] <pzebelloni> FYI: the white label reports a "B"
  • [07:06:41] <tbr> could you try if they boot more reliably if you have a microsd card with one of the standard images in it?
  • [07:08:02] <pzebelloni> Just a moment... I have one.
  • [07:08:39] <rahul_> tbr, i am now on debian again after so many stuffs
  • [07:08:41] <rahul_> :)
  • [07:08:49] <rahul_> so what to install here for qt
  • [07:09:22] <pzebelloni> No. It's the same: a short blink of power led and stop.
  • [07:09:42] <tbr> rahul_: that is not BBB specific. YOU should know what sort of qt packages you will need to run your software.
  • [07:10:18] <tbr> pzebelloni: but the sd card in general does have a bootable image on it, right?
  • [07:10:40] <pzebelloni> yes
  • [07:10:54] <rahul_> ok
  • [07:11:09] <tbr> pzebelloni: what sort of power supply is this?
  • [07:12:07] <pzebelloni> Emerson 5V 2A sold by Farnell as BBB companion power supply.
  • [07:12:23] <tbr> ok
  • [07:12:44] <tbr> just to rule out that the PSU is a dud, could you try what happens if you power the boards over USB?
  • [07:12:59] <pzebelloni> It works perfectly.
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  • [07:13:40] <tbr> if powering over USB works, then the power supply is faulty and needs to be replaced
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  • [07:13:52] <pzebelloni> After power (with pushes on power button) all my 3 BBBs work fine.
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  • [07:16:47] <nyt-> is 9_14 used for capes at all?
  • [07:17:35] <tbr> pzebelloni: I find it interesting that you say you have to press power. I never had to do that.
  • [07:18:19] <pzebelloni> Wow... I'm very glad to be the first :-)
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  • [07:19:41] <pzebelloni> Resume: power led blinks once at +5V plug.
  • [07:20:07] <tbr> your power supply is most likely faulty, replace it
  • [07:20:32] <pzebelloni> Then I push briefly several times (from 1 to... say a number) and BBB starts
  • [07:21:28] <pzebelloni> I had the same problem on 3 different devices... looks strange. I can connect a laboratory power supply.
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  • [07:21:42] <pzebelloni> can you wait?
  • [07:22:01] <tbr> this is IRC, long delays are part of it
  • [07:22:40] <pzebelloni> ok
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  • [07:26:15] <pzebelloni> I think you're right... It works perfectly with the laboratory power supply.
  • [07:27:05] <pzebelloni> Now I'll grab current waveform with current probe.
  • [07:29:36] <nyt-> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002FA5WE2/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
  • [07:29:39] <nyt-> those workwell
  • [07:29:39] <nyt-> fyi
  • [07:36:01] <pzebelloni> BBB sink 4 A @ power up, then after 200 [us] drops to 200 [mA].
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  • [07:45:27] <pzebelloni> BBB sinks 4 [A] for at least 100 [us], then drop near zero. Then after several [ms], there are at least other 2 current peaks, around 3 [A].
  • [07:46:18] <pzebelloni> After few hundredths, current stabilize around 250 [mA].
  • [07:47:39] <pzebelloni> So... It looks that initial peaks may be unsupported by adapters, so BBB hangs.
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  • [07:52:39] <pzebelloni> Thank you for the suggestion... I assumed too early that 2 [A] power adapters were above all suspicion...
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  • [08:27:45] <rahul_> Hii..
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  • [08:27:50] <rahul_> At last its working
  • [08:27:52] <rahul_> :)
  • [08:28:13] <rahul_> But i have problem in camera no video0 is displaying in /dev
  • [08:28:34] <tbr> that will depend on the camera you are using
  • [08:28:53] <rahul_> it is working fine with my ubuntu machine
  • [08:28:57] <tbr> does it work on a linux desktop? which kernel modules does it use there?
  • [08:29:08] <rahul_> and on Rpi and Friendly arm
  • [08:29:38] <rahul_> it is working fine
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  • [08:30:59] <rahul_> it is using uvcvideo there
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  • [08:34:46] <rahul_> and here on beagle bone i am executing
  • [08:37:48] <rahul_> Any suggestions?
  • [08:38:15] <rahul_> There is no module here recognizing
  • [08:38:22] <rahul_> for camera
  • [08:38:46] <tbr> try to modprobe that module
  • [08:38:55] <tbr> if it isn't there then you might need to build it
  • [08:41:42] <rahul_> Ohkk
  • [08:42:11] <rahul_> and also as i am inserting usb camera in BBB usb port no change in dmesg | tail
  • [08:45:51] <tbr> is that an USB1.1 device?
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  • [08:51:09] <rahul_> tbr, how to check it?
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  • [08:52:55] <rahul_> tbr, i did modprobe also
  • [08:53:03] <rahul_> but it isn't working
  • [08:53:05] <tbr> rahul_: lsusb will help you in this. you need to do this on a machine that recognizes the camera
  • [08:54:18] <rahul_> Bus 001 Device 026: ID 090c:037c Silicon Motion, Inc. - Taiwan (formerly Feiya Technology Corp.)
  • [08:55:10] <tbr> I'm not going to do this for you. This is an exercise for you to investigate this.
  • [08:56:29] <bzyx> Hi, have anyone here tried running ETM driver (linux/arch/arm/kernel/etm.c) on BBB ? I see that its init is called but not anything else. Any hints what could be the cause?
  • [08:56:29] <rahul_> Okk
  • [08:57:48] <rahul_> Well, one more problem arised i have HDMI display also connected it suddenly says no signal. and the keyboard i attach to BBB port is not working. but ssh is working fine
  • [08:58:39] <nyt-> how are you powering your bbb
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  • [09:07:14] <rahul_> it is now recognizing
  • [09:07:33] <rahul_> but only when if i don't do ssh
  • [09:10:24] <tbr> rahul_: would you mind answering nyt-'s question?
  • [09:12:13] * nyt- adding on the fly dtb building my ruby gem...
  • [09:12:19] <nyt-> for gpio at least
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  • [09:14:56] <rahul_> nyt-, i am powering it by 5v supply
  • [09:17:26] <rahul_> Do i need to put all peripherels before powering up BBB
  • [09:18:12] <nyt-> it helps otherwise there can be a power draw while its running. Try a dif power supply if you're having these issues with peripherals turning off when you plug others in
  • [09:19:19] <rahul_> What power supply do i need atleast?
  • [09:20:12] <rahul_> why it draws peripherals if i don't use them for some time and same with HDMI Display it says No signal after some time
  • [09:20:45] <tbr> rahul_: what sort of power supply is this?
  • [09:21:42] <rahul_> I am giving power supply of 5 v with adapter to uSB hub
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  • [09:46:22] <rahul_> Why it is lost as i reinsert the usb peripherels
  • [09:55:01] <tbr> what is the current rating of your 5V power supply?
  • [09:57:55] <rahul_> what do you mean by it?
  • [09:58:03] <rahul_> can we test the voltage ob BBB
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  • [10:01:23] <rahul_> input is 100-240VAC 50/60hz
  • [10:01:29] <rahul_> tbr, ^
  • [10:01:46] <rahul_> output is DC 5V 2000mA
  • [10:02:07] <tbr> that last bit is the important information
  • [10:02:34] <rahul_> So you mean by mA
  • [10:02:34] <tbr> and you have this directly connected to the BBB? to the mini-usb or the barrel connector?
  • [10:02:34] <rahul_> ?
  • [10:03:16] <rahul_> No i had connected it to usb hub and then supplying power from usb
  • [10:03:20] <rahul_> to BBB
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  • [10:03:33] <tbr> power it directly
  • [10:04:24] <rahul_> by direct adapters
  • [10:05:18] <tbr> can't you attach the power supply to the BBB instead of your USB hub?
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  • [10:06:34] <nyt-> painful ;)
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  • [10:25:18] <rahul_> I did it..
  • [10:25:35] <rahul_> But still as i am reinserting my usb devices it is painful
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  • [10:32:12] <rahul_> why it happens?
  • [10:32:59] <rahul_> It looks like usb leaves power after i removes the Usb hub from there
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  • [10:36:06] <tbr> that last sentence doesn't make sense
  • [10:36:49] <tbr> I would suggest to get a second, good, power supply for the BBB. it needs to reliably supply 5V and up to 2A
  • [10:37:36] <rahul_> But it is giving a supply of 5v
  • [10:37:46] <rahul_> can i test it by multi meter
  • [10:37:49] <tbr> we do not know about its quality
  • [10:38:16] <rahul_> there are tp5 tp6 tp7 tp8.
  • [10:38:16] <tbr> given the problems you experience it is very likely that the power supply is to blame
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  • [10:38:46] <rahul_> Ohkk, i agree but why my HDMI screen say it has no signa
  • [10:38:55] <tbr> same reason
  • [10:39:13] <tbr> at the very least you should borrow a known good power supply, preferably a lab power supply and test the board with that
  • [10:39:38] <rahul_> and ssh is working fine
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  • [10:51:56] <rahul_> voltage coming from adapter is 5.29
  • [10:51:58] <rahul_> v
  • [10:52:32] <rahul_> and rating between tp2 and tp4 is 3.39
  • [10:56:37] <rahul_> tbr, it is correct, but getting same problems, as i am reinserting. i got an article which says that i have to connect atleast a usb device powered
  • [10:56:41] <rahul_> there
  • [10:57:33] <tbr> rahul_: test with a lab power supply. until then I have no further comment.
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  • [11:45:49] <Peanut> Hi, question - I've just booted with the Debian updater image. Can you log in while the image is updating the eMMC? How can I see if the updater is running?
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  • [11:52:57] <tbr> I guess you should be able to connect to it, either over SSH or virtual serial port if you connect by USB
  • [11:53:12] <tbr> also it should turn on all leds once it's done
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  • [11:55:36] <Peanut> tbr: Ok, thanks. Oh, look, the LEDS just all went on, it's done. That went much faster than expected.
  • [11:55:51] <tbr> 5-10minutes IIRC
  • [11:56:03] <Peanut> Ah, the webpage says it can take up to 45 minutes.
  • [11:56:07] <tbr> first boot might be quite slow,
  • [11:56:24] <tbr> at least it was on angstrom. it took 10 or 20min for anything to appear over USB
  • [11:57:43] <Peanut> The storage device is already mounted again.
  • [11:58:00] <Peanut> And I'm logged in, neat.
  • [11:59:45] <tbr> :)
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  • [12:02:20] <Peanut> The Ethernet doesn't seem to work very well.. it takes ages to get a DHCP lease, and the green led is blinking all the time.
  • [12:06:59] <Peanut> The EThernet loses a lot of packets, is this a known problem?
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  • [12:18:11] <tbr> I didn't have problems with that
  • [12:18:51] <Peanut> tbr: somethign odd here. I had it connected behind my VOIP-phone, and network performance was horrible. Now I've unplugged the phone and things work much better.
  • [12:22:18] <tbr> heh
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  • [12:50:32] <mamar59> Hello, Can someone help me with my BBB ? I think i bricked it, I cant start it anymore, I was flashing it with Ubuntu and the leds dont blink anymore, im actually trying to connect it with an usb to serial port but when i try to access to the console i get a blank screen
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  • [13:18:11] <mamar59> Hello, Can someone help me with my BBB ? I think i bricked it, I cant start it anymore, I was flashing it with Ubuntu and the leds dont blink anymore, im actually trying to connect it with an usb to serial port but when i try to access to the console i get a blank screen
  • [13:23:13] <Dan3> you cant really "brick" a BBB
  • [13:23:33] <Dan3> its probably just your image is corrupt
  • [13:23:51] <Dan3> download it again. and reburn it to your SD card and start again from the beginning
  • [13:25:27] <thurgood> ... not with software anyway
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  • [13:27:12] <mamar59> i already tried many times with ubuntu and angstrom distros but i cant get it to work anymore the only led that get lit is the power one
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  • [13:31:53] <tbr> mamar59: are you able to boot from microSD card?
  • [13:33:33] <mamar59> tbr: no it do not work
  • [13:33:56] <tbr> mamar59: how are you preparing an microSD card?
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  • [13:37:05] <mamar59> tbr: http://beagleboard.org/Getting%20Started
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  • [13:38:04] <tbr> mamar59: are you on linux or on windows?
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  • [13:41:56] <mamar59> tbr: i tried on both
  • [13:42:52] <tbr> mamar59: can you please try doing this again on linux and then paste the 'dd' command line you use?
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  • [13:48:54] <mamar59> tbr: should i try with angstrom or ubuntu ?
  • [13:49:15] <tbr> use either an official angstrom or debian image
  • [13:51:22] <mamar59> tbr: ok
  • [13:52:59] <mamar59> tbr: emmc flasher version or normal?
  • [13:53:30] <tbr> normal
  • [13:54:09] <mamar59> ok
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  • [15:11:42] <Steell> Hi everybody ! I need some help pls. I've connected my BB in USB and I've installed the drivers for windows. But it seems that the ethernet gadget is not installed. I can't see my BB in Network connections. How can I do ?
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  • [15:15:41] <idwer> install the rndis driver
  • [15:15:53] <idwer> bbb?
  • [15:16:13] <Steell> No it's a BB rev A6.
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  • [15:28:09] <Steell> It say that the device can't work :s
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  • [15:30:56] <johnwalkr> lol http://www.amazon.co.jp/BeagleBoard-org-BB-BBLK-00-BeagleBone-Black/dp/B00CHHMZ9S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398958181&sr=8-1&keywords=beaglebone+black
  • [15:30:59] <johnwalkr> that’s $200
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  • [15:44:19] <Peanut> I paid € 51.37 for mine, that's including shipping.
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  • [16:00:03] <Cedric__> Hello
  • [16:00:20] <Cedric__> Is there a CEC-Client package for the BealgeBone black?
  • [16:02:58] <mamar59> tbr: are you here?
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  • [16:05:21] <Cedric__> Hello?
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  • [16:17:41] <mamar59> Hello, Can someone help me with my BBB ? I think i bricked it, I cant start it anymore, I was flashing it with Ubuntu and the leds dont blink anymore, im actually trying to connect it with an usb to serial port but when i try to access to the console i get a blank screen
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  • [16:18:42] <tbr> mamar59: yes?
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  • [16:20:33] <mamar59> tbr; i just tried one more time and it still doesnt work
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  • [16:21:49] <mamar59> tbr; the power led is lit and the ethernet leds are too but i still cant start it
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  • [16:24:49] <tbr> mamar59: I asked you for something specific. I do not see it.
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  • [16:26:57] <tbr> mamar59: please keep in mind that we do not see what you were doing and summarizing that with "doesn't work" does not help us to understand what is going on.
  • [16:27:07] <mamar59> tbr: im not on the same pc but the dd command did not made any error
  • [16:27:38] <mamar59> tbr: the image is in the sd card but the bbb wont boot on it
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  • [16:27:44] <tbr> mamar59: I do not give a flying … if it gave you an error or not. I want the EXACT command you used and I want to see it here on the channel.
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  • [16:30:45] <mamar59> tbr: sudo dd if=bone-debian-7.4-2014-04-23-2gb.img of=/dev/sdb
  • [16:31:28] <tbr> mamar59: did you unmount the sdcard before you wrote to it?
  • [16:32:04] <mamar59> tbr: yes i did
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  • [16:39:58] <tbr> mamar59: how are you powering the board?
  • [16:40:46] <mamar59> by usb cable
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  • [17:04:25] <mamar59> ??
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  • [17:08:19] <ryansturmer> Hey there folks
  • [17:09:00] <ryansturmer> Does the BBB have support for USB OTG (USB port acting as a client rather than a host type port)?
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  • [17:13:32] <_av500_> yes and no
  • [17:13:55] <_av500_> the CPU can probably do it, but not how it is set up on the BBB
  • [17:14:17] <_av500_> like you cannot switch the 5V usb power
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  • [17:19:12] <ryansturmer> ah, drag
  • [17:20:18] <johnwalkr> what was the question, that answer sounds interesting
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  • [19:03:29] <ryansturmer> My question was does the beaglebone support USB OTG
  • [19:04:10] <ryansturmer> ie, can I talk to the device as a USB client, rather than host
  • [19:07:51] <XorA> it is a USB client :-)
  • [19:10:32] <ryansturmer> Yeah, duh! I was just realizing that, and trying to pull up information about its USB connection, but coming up short. Is there a really good resource for that?
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  • [19:17:21] <Jay__> hello guys
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  • [19:27:59] <tbr> ryansturmer: you said OTG and that implies much more
  • [19:28:35] <myself> I think of 'em as boy, girl, and hermaphrodite. The first and second cases are much simpler than the third.
  • [19:28:47] <tbr> sort of that
  • [19:28:52] <myself> (You see, when two device descriptors love each other very much..)
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  • [19:31:42] <dohb> hello, can anybody suggest me a camera that gives high quality pictures of objects in short range for bb-xM?
  • [19:31:52] <dohb> I am searching on internet
  • [19:32:16] <dohb> but do not know the terminology of cameras
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  • [20:15:15] <jkridner> ryansturmer: it is only client on the client port. Some analysis of the schematic will show it is possible to turn it into a host port, but the board doesn't support it directly. There is also the host port.
  • [20:16:22] <ryansturmer> I think actually looking at the documentation, that the client port provided is sufficient for my needs
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  • [20:22:33] <StevePeat> Hello !
  • [20:24:01] <StevePeat> I recently bought a beagleboard rev C5 and erased the NAND totally... I am now trying to have a system running on it that I don't have to use through my serial port because it's not very well working. What would be your advice ? (choice of the linux version especially)
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  • [20:26:14] <StevePeat> Is it possible to set up crunchbag on my beagleboard ?
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  • [20:27:32] <StevePeat> is someone reading what I wrote down ? :)
  • [20:30:44] <pjustice> your irc client works :)
  • [20:31:49] <StevePeat> ah thanks :)
  • [20:35:24] <rollietikes> anyone know where to get a Beagle Black next day air?
  • [20:35:50] <StevePeat> oh, one more question and I'll be done for now. When I sue minicom I receive good and bad ascii letters... So it's working at 50% I would say. Any idea why ?
  • [20:35:51] <jkridner> I think Adafruit can do it. Radio Shack in the US often has them in stock.
  • [20:35:57] <jkridner> MicroCenter in the US as well.
  • [20:36:13] <jkridner> Special Computing can likely do overnight as well.
  • [20:36:23] <jkridner> Others are unlikely to have stock.
  • [20:36:36] <jkridner> (because they take backorders and larger orders)
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  • [20:37:02] <Cedric__> Has the Beaglebone cec support?
  • [20:37:52] <rollietikes> thanks everyone
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  • [20:43:06] <jkridner> Cedric__: nice job waiting for an answer. :(
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  • [20:45:23] <pjustice> StevePeat, maybe parity is misconfigured in minicom?
  • [20:45:53] <idwer> StevePeat: 115200, 8n1 works for me
  • [20:45:57] <idwer> or 9600, 8n1
  • [20:50:27] <StevePeat> I don't think so
  • [20:50:40] <StevePeat> when I mess the parity I only receive erroneous stuff
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  • [20:51:06] <StevePeat> In my case I receive something like 50% of the message
  • [20:51:28] <idwer> so, I'm about to update angstrom.. while editing /etc/opkg/base-feed.conf is it ok to replace armv7a-vfp-neon with armv7ahf-vfp-neon?
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  • [20:53:21] <pjustice> StevePeat, how long is your serial cable?
  • [20:54:19] <StevePeat> something like 2m + serial to usb which is 1m and the 10 pin-serial 30cm
  • [20:56:05] <pjustice> you're probably down to swapping cable / usb-serial dongle etc to find a defective, then
  • [20:56:15] <pjustice> hopefully it's not the bone
  • [20:56:42] <StevePeat> damn
  • [20:56:59] <StevePeat> I find them horribly expensive for such an old tech
  • [20:58:58] <StevePeat> but thanks :) I appreciate your advice
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  • [21:50:07] <xaos> Hello everybody. I am using OrCAD 16.6 to build a daughterboard for the Beagle black. Anyone in here interested?
  • [21:51:14] <veremit> to do what?
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  • [21:51:41] <xaos> 3 things:
  • [21:52:18] <xaos> 2. Build a power supply that would go underneath (same dims).
  • [21:52:36] <xaos> That was 1 :)
  • [21:53:04] <xaos> 2. Build a custom board with additional I/O
  • [21:53:27] <xaos> 3. A custom board to mount a GPS receiver (for timing apps)
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  • [21:53:48] <ds2> what's the point?
  • [21:54:19] <Shadyman> all on one board?
  • [21:54:27] <xaos> GPS Board is for timing applications (line Startum 1 NTP Server)
  • [21:54:49] <Shadyman> xaos: like this? http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e94/MasterMWL/PCBs/GPS_Cape_zps6cb947cb.png
  • [21:54:55] <xaos> No, I forsee building 3 additional boards (all the size of the beagle)
  • [21:55:14] <Shadyman> :3
  • [21:55:38] <veremit> 3?!
  • [21:55:45] <ds2> this is something that you can do in an hour or so
  • [21:57:19] <xaos> ds2: That's funny :) Maybe a month or 2
  • [21:57:47] <Shadyman> xaos: my GPS cape took a day or three to layout
  • [21:57:48] <ds2> I have a board that does video in, video out, GPS, lithium power, all done in about 8 hours
  • [21:58:01] <xaos> The PS board and I/O board can be used by anyone. The GPS board is special purpose.
  • [21:58:02] <Shadyman> but that's because GPS/RF signals are picky.
  • [21:58:04] <ds2> oh and accelerometer, gyro, magnetometer and other features
  • [21:58:20] <ds2> Shadyman: depends on your choice of GPSes
  • [21:58:24] <Shadyman> ^
  • [21:58:26] <Shadyman> Truth.
  • [21:58:32] <ds2> the RF aspects can be designed out
  • [21:58:42] <Shadyman> I have a module with an rf antenna onboard as well
  • [21:58:49] <Shadyman> which would really only need data lines
  • [21:59:05] <ds2> a basic GPS module interface is like 5 wires...Power, GND, RX, TX, PPS
  • [21:59:20] <ds2> now if you need an off board antenna or amp...
  • [21:59:24] <xaos> Since the GPS board will be for timing, There will be diff pairs to be layed out and timing parameters for the antenna conenction
  • [21:59:40] <Vaizki> Huh
  • [21:59:46] <ds2> why are you using an external antenna?
  • [21:59:50] <xaos> yes
  • [21:59:56] <xaos> A timing antenna
  • [22:00:30] <ds2> how much more accurate is the timing antenna? not familiar with that...more familiar with the helical shielded surveying ones
  • [22:00:43] <xaos> The GPS setup is for timing. Therefore that GPS Receiver will be stationary.
  • [22:01:45] <xaos> Also the Power SUpply will be all Linear with transistor components to reduce Phase Noise and switching noise.
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  • [22:02:24] <Shadyman> xaos: Sounds like fun, but it's out of my league :)
  • [22:02:25] <ds2> are you also making cans for the BBB?
  • [22:02:53] <xaos> Now, here is my question: Does anyone here have a OrCAD board with just the headers and the mounting holes, etc: In other words: a proto board
  • [22:02:55] <ds2> I don't really see the point of all that when there are switchers running free and loose on the BBB side along with the digital noise
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  • [22:04:15] <xaos> ds2: The GPS timing receiver is very susceptible to noise. I'd like to keep that to a minimum.
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  • [22:04:25] <Shadyman> xaos: Keep in mind that the bbb pins traces aren't all equal length to the headers
  • [22:04:32] <ds2> xaos: but the GPS receiver is near the BBB
  • [22:04:39] <xaos> Shady: I know :(
  • [22:04:44] <ds2> xaos: which GPS receiver are you using?
  • [22:05:24] <Shadyman> xaos: You'd almost be better running the receiver offboard and running a shielded cable to the 'bone
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  • [22:05:44] <xaos> ds2: Sirf 12 channel
  • [22:06:02] * Shadyman drops a NEO-6T on his gps board and calls it a day
  • [22:06:03] <ds2> xaos: bare chip?
  • [22:07:05] <xaos> ds2: no, module
  • [22:07:22] <ds2> aren't themodules pretty well shielded?
  • [22:07:28] <Shadyman> lea-6t?
  • [22:08:08] <Shadyman> ds2: From the top, yes. Bottom needs a pure ground and plated vias like my board has
  • [22:08:31] <Shadyman> but the module's design guide would tell you how to design it in
  • [22:08:50] <xaos> Yeah, so I need a nice ground for it.
  • [22:08:57] <Shadyman> would depend where the digital vs rx portions of the module are, and such
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  • [22:09:02] <ds2> the modules I have used are shielded on the bottom too
  • [22:09:04] <Shadyman> basically just follow the design guide :p
  • [22:09:14] <ds2> but it never hurts to lay out ground down there
  • [22:09:17] <xaos> the ground will also keep switching noise to a min, since the GPS board will be the top one.
  • [22:10:10] <xaos> Anyway, my question was if anyone has already created a beagle proto board. It would save me thr trouble.
  • [22:11:01] <xaos> If nobody has, I'll make one and publish it.
  • [22:11:56] <xaos> I'm doing this for my personal timing needs so it will be OSS
  • [22:12:29] <ds2> there might be ones done in Eagle
  • [22:12:32] <ds2> not orcad
  • [22:12:48] <ds2> but I find it sufficient to just draw the thing as pin headers
  • [22:12:49] <xaos> Don't know Eagle.
  • [22:13:27] <xaos> The board would need to connect to the beagle via the headers.
  • [22:13:41] <xaos> SO everything can be like a sandwitch
  • [22:15:01] <xaos> I prefer the SIRF modules because I am familiar with the command set
  • [22:15:34] <ds2> I'm using sirf modules, but I am using ones with onboard antenna
  • [22:15:54] <xaos> IC
  • [22:15:54] <ds2> be interesting to see how good of a timing you can get out of it... do you have equipment to measure that?
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  • [22:20:33] <xaos> HP counters all GPS synced to 10MHz.
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  • [22:30:35] <swguy> hi
  • [22:31:32] <swguy> anyone here?
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  • [22:32:37] <swguy> Hi everyone
  • [22:32:49] <xaos> Hello
  • [22:33:09] <swguy> is this the right place to ask questions about BBB?
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  • [22:35:58] <xaos> yup. WHat's up ?
  • [22:36:00] <Shadyman> swguy: You got it.
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  • [22:37:10] <Shadyman> Guess not.
  • [22:37:22] <Shadyman> xaos: I made a protoboard, but not in orcad, sorry
  • [22:38:18] <xaos> That's ok dude. Usually, by doing the proto board I get more exp with the system anyway. win-win.
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  • [22:44:02] <Shadyman> :D
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  • [23:54:57] <ausjke> trying to use narcissus to get an image for beaglebone revA3, only saw beagleboard as the machine there, will that work?