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  • [00:49:16] <sirjorj> Are there any known issues with the new Debian emmc flasher image? I've tried using it on 2 different cards and both give a Wrong Ramdisk Image Format when I tried to them.
  • [00:49:25] <sirjorj> ...or did I dd it wrong?
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  • [01:53:47] <jbdatko> sirjorj_: I just flashed two BBBs today with the flasher image.
  • [01:54:16] <sirjorj_> hmmm... did you get the image from bittorrent?
  • [01:54:25] <jbdatko> no, wget
  • [01:54:31] <jbdatko> the md5sum checked out
  • [01:54:34] <sirjorj_> ok... the torrent one seems dead anyway...
  • [01:54:37] <sirjorj_> same here...
  • [01:54:52] <jbdatko> I did have a problem once with changed the bs param in the dd
  • [01:55:00] <sirjorj_> i extracted the img file and dd'ed it on a mac... just like ive done before
  • [01:55:05] <jbdatko> bs=1m seems to work reliably for me
  • [01:55:16] <sirjorj_> hmm... good to know... ill try that...
  • [01:55:58] <jbdatko> I always refer to the adafruit instructions: https://learn.adafruit.com/beaglebone-black-installing-operating-systems/overview
  • [01:58:10] <sirjorj_> ok... adding the bs=1m makes dd go about 100 times faster... so thats nice!
  • [01:58:43] <sirjorj_> before it was about 100k per sec... now its about 10meg per sec...
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  • [03:41:06] <sirjorj_> Ok, i think i tracked down the issue. Has anyone successfully flashed this on a Rev B board? My rev A5C succeeded but my rev B does not
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  • [05:23:21] <VAX_> Anyone know where you can get a beaglebone black .. absolutely no one has them in stock... Mine has been on order for 4 months! and now they cancelled the order
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  • [05:31:12] <KotH> VAX_: order from someone else
  • [05:31:29] <KotH> yes, they are rare, but afaik the should ship within 3-5 weeks
  • [05:31:34] * KotH sets mode -o KotH
  • [05:32:16] <VAX_> tried every where the whole of europe has 0 stock!
  • [05:32:31] <KotH> yes, that's known
  • [05:32:48] <KotH> the bbb sels out faster than they can produce it
  • [05:33:36] <VAX_> Import from the US adds import charges way too much!! Marketing nightmare .. at least you can buy a raspberry pi anywhere :)
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  • [05:35:20] <VAX_> ebay wants a fortune for them .. how does the Am3359 Beaglebone compare to the black?
  • [05:35:46] * KotH does not know what a Am3359 Beaglebone is
  • [05:36:02] <dogrocket> hello
  • [05:36:06] <VAX_> the white dev board
  • [05:36:11] <VAX_> hi
  • [05:36:27] <KotH> a.. bbw and bbb... there is a comparison of those somewhere on beabgleboard.org
  • [05:36:46] <KotH> or was it on elinux? something like that
  • [05:36:51] <KotH> but there is a comparison somewhere
  • [05:38:40] <VAX_> cheers thanks
  • [05:39:07] <tbr> VAX_: 0 stock means you fell for the "OMG no stock means can't buy" trap
  • [05:39:24] <tbr> VAX_: just place your order with a european distributor and you WILL get a BBB in due time
  • [05:39:54] <tbr> and 4 months sounds like a shady disty
  • [05:40:19] <tbr> go for the big ones
  • [05:41:02] <dogrocket> try amazon.. sometimes they have them
  • [05:41:34] <VAX_> TBR been on order for 4 months from RS .. just cancelled my order!
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  • [05:42:19] <tbr> prpplague: RS cancels BBB orders after keeping people waiting for 4 months?
  • [05:42:33] <VAX_> dog rocket .. none on amazon .. some on ebay .. but silly money
  • [05:43:09] <tbr> try element14
  • [05:43:32] <dogrocket> sucks... element14 coming out with a chinese one soon i guess,
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  • [05:43:56] <dogrocket> logic supply is coming out with one too, but its 70$ not sure where its made
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  • [05:47:14] <dogrocket> they said they ordered 1,000 of them should be ready in may
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  • [05:48:36] <dogrocket> http://www.logicsupply.com/components/motherboards/arm/bb-bblk-000/
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  • [07:10:17] <maoshouse> hi, does anyone know the maximum size microsd card that is supported by the beagleboard-xm?
  • [07:10:30] <av500> any size
  • [07:10:50] <maoshouse> great! thanks so much
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  • [07:11:47] <KotH> as long as it's not larger than a micro sd
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  • [07:12:29] <maoshouse> actually let me rephrase then
  • [07:12:35] <maoshouse> maximum capacity?
  • [07:12:39] <av500> any size
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  • [07:12:56] <maoshouse> :) thanks
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  • [07:13:35] <av500> 2TB in fact
  • [07:15:16] <KotH> according to the current standard
  • [07:15:41] <av500> that might be the limit as for block adressing
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  • [07:16:13] <av500> 32bit x 512 bytes/block
  • [07:16:23] <av500> of couse if you change the blocksize ....
  • [07:17:23] <LetoThe2nd> KotH: you mean, standard as in https://xkcd.com/927?
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  • [07:19:06] <KotH> are there any other standards?
  • [07:19:29] <av500> "American Standard"
  • [07:19:39] <av500> that one is pretty much down to earth
  • [07:19:58] * LetoThe2nd prefers the russian standard.
  • [07:19:59] <LetoThe2nd> http://russianstandardvodka.com/
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  • [07:20:32] <av500> LetoThe2nd: yes, you need the american after using the russian
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  • [07:21:22] <LetoThe2nd> av500: to cover all use cases?
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  • [08:53:00] <StevN> Hello everybody ! My BB work's great thanks to your help. But I have an other problem with PHP that i can't resolve.
  • [08:53:13] <StevN> This code didn't work : echo exec('echo 38 > /sys/class/gpio/export'); echo exec('echo out > /sys/class/gpio/gpio38/direction'); echo exec('echo 1 > /sys/class/gpio/gpio38/value');
  • [08:53:18] <nyt-> need to run as root
  • [08:53:32] <StevN> wheras, in BB terminal it works
  • [08:53:41] <nyt-> <nyt-> need to run as root
  • [08:53:48] <nyt-> only root has permission to write to those files
  • [08:54:01] <StevN> oh ok !
  • [08:54:31] <StevN> how to get the root ?
  • [08:54:48] <nyt-> adjust the web server config
  • [08:55:17] <StevN> In lighttpd.conf ?
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  • [08:56:05] <nyt-> *Shrug* whichever webserver you're using
  • [08:56:06] * LetoThe2nd runs away screaming as he hears "webserver" and "root" in the same conversation
  • [08:56:10] <nyt-> yeah
  • [08:56:11] <nyt-> exactly
  • [08:56:19] <nyt-> not like the bb doesn't have a root console available by default
  • [08:56:25] <nyt-> with the bonescript stuff
  • [08:56:26] <nyt-> but hey
  • [08:56:36] <nyt-> not my problem ;)
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  • [08:58:21] <StevN> x) Sorry for my newbies questions. Gonna take a look. Thanks !
  • [08:58:32] <nyt-> documenting this friggen code is taking me longer than it took to write the code
  • [08:58:35] * nyt- cries
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  • [09:52:05] <nyt-> https://github.com/notnyt/beaglebone
  • [09:52:19] <nyt-> bout halfway done
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  • [10:10:46] <shawnbon206> youre tha man nyt-
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  • [10:18:58] <johnwalkr> good job nyt-
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  • [10:36:01] <CHARU> HI
  • [10:36:15] <CHARU> I WANT TO RESTORE NAND FLASH OF BB
  • [10:36:15] <nyt-> HELLO CHARU
  • [10:36:25] <CHARU> MY BB IS NOT WORKING
  • [10:36:34] <CHARU> HOW I CAN FACTORY RESET THE BB
  • [10:36:37] <nyt-> PLZ SEE https://learn.adafruit.com/beaglebone-black-installing-operating-systems/flashing-the-beaglebone-black
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  • [10:36:57] * ogra_ shades his ears
  • [10:36:58] <nyt-> or http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Updating_The_Software
  • [10:37:00] <nyt-> lol
  • [10:37:32] <CHARU> i tried that but its not working
  • [10:37:40] <nyt-> keep trying :(
  • [10:37:48] <nyt-> or provide more info on why it isn't working
  • [10:37:50] <CHARU> now i cant able to boot from nand flash
  • [10:38:01] <nyt-> well, make sure the flashing completes
  • [10:38:06] <nyt-> it takes almost an hour
  • [10:38:57] <Dan1> CHARU: what were you doing directly before it stopped workin?
  • [10:38:57] * nyt- back to documenting
  • [10:39:37] <CHARU> Unknown command '^@' - try 'help' U-Boot# AT S7=45 S0=0 L1 V1 X4 &c1 E1 Q0 syntax error U-Boot# U-Boot SPL 2013.10 (Nov 28 2013 - 06:36:11) reading args spl: error reading image args, err - -1 reading u-boot.img reading u-boot.img U-Boot 2013.10 (Nov 28 2013 - 06:36:11) I2C: ready DRAM: 512 MiB
  • [10:40:14] <nyt-> well its reading a null instead of proper data
  • [10:40:32] <CHARU> how i can restore it
  • [10:40:36] <nyt-> your flash was not successful, maybe try rewriting your sd card or using a different one and monitor the progress of the flashing
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  • [10:44:22] <CHARU> i dont have externel power supply
  • [10:44:37] <CHARU> is it reason for not flashing nanad
  • [10:44:57] <CHARU> i connected bb through usb
  • [10:44:58] <nyt-> if you have a decent usb power source it should be fine
  • [10:45:06] <nyt-> what happens when you try to flash
  • [10:45:19] <nyt-> system should boot, sit there for about an hour, then all 4 leds should go solid
  • [10:45:21] <nyt-> did you wait for that?
  • [10:45:26] <CHARU> only one power led is on
  • [10:45:38] <CHARU> other four led is not turn off
  • [10:45:45] <CHARU> sorry
  • [10:45:52] <nyt-> follow the steps on the links I provided
  • [10:45:54] <CHARU> other four leds not glow
  • [10:45:55] <nyt-> you should be able to get it flashed
  • [10:46:07] <CHARU> i tried that
  • [10:46:22] <nyt-> how long did you wait for it to flash?
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  • [10:46:37] <nyt-> and did you hold reset when booting?
  • [10:46:53] <nyt-> heh or is it boot
  • [10:47:03] <nyt-> yeah boot, not reset
  • [10:47:04] <nyt-> derp
  • [10:47:31] <CHARU> i holding down user button 10 minutes down but that the bank of 4 LED's not light up
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  • [10:48:17] <nyt-> no
  • [10:48:25] <nyt-> unplug power
  • [10:48:29] <nyt-> hold boot
  • [10:48:31] <nyt-> plug in power
  • [10:48:35] <nyt-> all 4 should light up real quick
  • [10:48:38] <nyt-> once they do let it go
  • [10:48:45] <nyt-> or just let it go
  • [10:48:51] <nyt-> it might be quicker than you can see
  • [10:48:58] <nyt-> then it should boot
  • [10:49:08] <nyt-> put an hdmi console on it or watch pstree to see what its doing once its booted
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  • [10:49:16] <nyt-> from there it takes about 45 minutes to flash
  • [10:50:30] <CHARU> i dont have hdmi display
  • [10:50:50] <CHARU> i am trying to monator using minicom
  • [10:51:07] <CHARU> in minicom its showing neathing
  • [10:52:48] <CHARU> can you give me latset armsrong banary link
  • [10:55:06] <av500> http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
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  • [11:47:08] <nyt-> https://github.com/notnyt/beaglebone
  • [11:47:11] <nyt-> and that's all I got in me tonight
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  • [13:06:59] <Iksplisit> Good morning dudes;P
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  • [13:08:36] <Iksplisit> has anyone done some face tracking on a moving camera?- camera follows object
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  • [13:10:11] <Iksplisit> chat room dead?
  • [13:10:32] <LetoThe2nd> nah, face tracking is dead
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  • [13:16:19] <heeen> what is the difference between vdd5v and sys5v on p9
  • [13:16:37] <heeen> one is regulated I guess and one is directly connected to the barell connector
  • [13:16:38] <heeen> ?
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  • [13:26:30] <mistawright> heen, if one was using a 4.95 volt power source and wanted to power the beaglebone black through pins what would be the best pin to use then
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  • [13:45:56] <ioudas> has anyone created a kbdrate udev rule before? I have created the udev rule but its not applying or executing the script ive made.... just curious as to why. I have the right add, and id's
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  • [13:49:15] <alan_o> ioudas: http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html
  • [13:49:28] <ioudas> yeah, been reading that ;-/
  • [13:49:36] <alan_o> not sure the details of your situation.
  • [13:49:37] <kmo_> Hi guys, i have a frustrating issue, which i hope someone can help m with
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  • [13:50:20] <kmo_> I use beaglebone (white) with my mac osx 10.9.2
  • [13:50:43] <ioudas> i have a symbol scanner, it repeats keys on a linux distro i have.... it appears on plugin the kbdrate is reset
  • [13:50:55] <ioudas> since the scanner has a long cord continual presses result in a repeating key
  • [13:51:03] <ioudas> thus the need to set the rate
  • [13:51:13] <ioudas> i believe /etc/kbd/config may be also my ticket
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  • [13:51:34] <kmo_> I have installed the drivers from beagleboard.org - and my board is recogniced as a device. however sometimes it's given a static address and some times it's given the address 192.168.7.2
  • [13:52:09] <kmo_> how can i make sure it always connect to the internet with ip address 192.168.7.2
  • [13:52:25] <kmo_> any help would be much appreciated
  • [13:54:47] <myself> It sounds like "dhcp" is the term you want to start reading about :)
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  • [13:56:45] <kmo_> ok
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  • [13:58:48] <KotH> actually no. dhcp has nothing to do with rndis
  • [13:59:05] <KotH> rndis has a weird ip distribution mechanism
  • [13:59:12] <KotH> it works independently of anything
  • [13:59:18] <KotH> sometimes it even works
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  • [13:59:43] <charu> hi please give me begle bone nand flashing link
  • [14:00:06] <kmo_> what do you suggest koth?
  • [14:00:11] <myself> oooh, I thought we were talking about its ethernet interface, didn't realize that was an rndis question. mea culpa.
  • [14:00:13] <KotH> read up on rndis
  • [14:00:30] <KotH> i have no idea how rndis works in detail, so i cannot suggest anything better than that
  • [14:00:49] <kmo_> ok, thanks koth and myself
  • [14:00:54] <myself> rndis is the bane of my existence lately, there's something hosed up about my work laptop so I'm using this spare one.. aaagh.
  • [14:01:02] <charu> i want to flash bbb nand
  • [14:01:07] <charu> hello
  • [14:02:58] <LetoThe2nd> charu: googling for bbb debian eemc flasher should easily give you a link
  • [14:03:53] <LetoThe2nd> charu: like http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian#eMMC:_BeagleBone_Black
  • [14:04:02] <LetoThe2nd> charu: but of course you found that yourself, right?
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  • [14:05:21] <charu> i want procedure
  • [14:05:28] <charu> actully ilost that link
  • [14:05:48] <charu> hold user button and then ked blink
  • [14:06:02] <LetoThe2nd> charu: please just read what i gave you. thanks.
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  • [14:08:52] <charu> U-Boot SPL 2011.09-00000-gf63b270-dirty (Nov 20 2011 - 19:58:24) Texas Instruments Revision detection unimplemented Incorrect magic number in EEPROM read_eeprom() failure
  • [14:09:17] <charu> how i can recover my nand
  • [14:09:28] <charu> i didnt get ans from above link
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  • [14:10:52] <charu> hi plz give me solution
  • [14:10:56] <charu> U-Boot SPL 2011.09-00000-gf63b270-dirty (Nov 20 2011 - 19:58:24) Texas Instruments Revision detection unimplemented Incorrect magic number in EEPROM read_eeprom() failure
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  • [14:12:35] <LetoThe2nd> charu: you are not listening.
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  • [14:12:42] <LetoThe2nd> charu: open that link, read it follow it.
  • [14:12:48] <LetoThe2nd> charu: and use the image given there.
  • [14:13:11] <charu> ok i will try thanks
  • [14:13:21] <LetoThe2nd> charu: reading your *OWN* error message shows that you are using something *NOT* usable on the BBB (u-boot 2011... BBB was released in 2013)
  • [14:14:10] <av500> and there is no NAND either
  • [14:14:15] <ogra_> unless it came out of the TI-Crystal-Ball dept.
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  • [14:15:53] <myself> I demand that someone else do all my work for me!!!!!!!!11
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  • [14:27:30] <Dan1> myself: im happy to do it for you... for a cost.... but i should warn you its probably all going to be wrong once i finish it :)
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  • [16:08:44] <someonerandom> test
  • [16:08:49] <someonerandom> Hello.
  • [16:09:19] <someonerandom> I have a question. I was thinking of connecting a bunch of beagleboards together and then running a distributed Erlang app on them.
  • [16:09:41] <someonerandom> If my memory serves me correctly, there should be a linux distro for that purpose that will run on BeagleBoard, yes?
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  • [16:11:01] <jkridner> someonerandom: maybe you mean Nerves
  • [16:12:20] <someonerandom> I've heard of Nerves, but I think that this is something entirely different.
  • [16:14:54] <someonerandom> Actually, now that I have done more reading, it is nerves.
  • [16:14:56] <someonerandom> Thanks.
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  • [18:30:40] <mistawright> im looking at the beagleboard kernel github and not sure if I am able to build a 3.14 kernel. it doesnt list it but it seems i was able to specify 3.14 and pull a patchset
  • [18:31:10] <jkridner> mistawright: what do you mean by "doesn't list it?
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  • [18:32:21] <mistawright> jkridner, in the readme.md file it has usage section that shows patchsets for 3.8, 3.12 and 3.13 i looked at this after issueing the command for 3.14
  • [18:32:41] <jkridner> probably just because 3.14 isn't well tested yet.
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  • [19:19:55] <jonwooding> Could anyone point me in the direction of some resources for ssh into Beaglebone Black using direct ethernet connection (no router)? Or how to set up ssh over USB for BBB running Ubuntu 13.10 Saucy?
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  • [19:24:55] <prpplague> jonwooding: http://beagleboard.org/Getting%20Started
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  • [19:26:05] <jonwooding> prpplague: The Angstrom distro has USB ssh set up out of the box, but after upgrading to Saucy it doesn't seem to work. I can ssh through a router using ethernet with no trouble but would like to directly connect.
  • [19:26:49] <prpplague> jonwooding: ahh right didn't notice you were using a custom distro
  • [19:27:02] <prpplague> jonwooding: you'll to check with whoever/wherever you got that image from
  • [19:27:30] <jonwooding> Yeah, shame on me :/ Honestly I could probably go back to Angstrom but I've got a lot of custom libraries and everything already built and configured in Saucy (and a deadline next week!) :)
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  • [19:59:47] <nyt-> hi
  • [20:03:12] <nyt-> almost done w/ docs lol, should be able to finish tonight at least https://github.com/notnyt/beaglebone
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  • [20:15:27] <mthiffau> Question about UART configuration/starterware: If I don't want to use FIFOs/interrupts (writing some polling IO debug functions), do I still need to call the FIFO enable code (setting the fifo size/granularity to 1)?
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  • [20:26:53] <mthiffau> How often are there bare metal developers in here? I keep asking those sorts of questions and getting nothing. Maybe I'm just unlucky in terms of timing.
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  • [20:27:40] * KotH does bare metäl, but mostly on Cortex-M3
  • [20:27:59] <KotH> mthiffau: but your question should be answered by the TRM
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  • [20:28:32] <mthiffau> I've read through the
  • [20:28:44] <mthiffau> TRM, but it just assumes you are going to use FIFOs and tells you to enable them
  • [20:28:59] <KotH> thn you have to read between the lines
  • [20:29:11] <agmlego> Or, you know, try it and see?
  • [20:29:33] <KotH> koen's rule #3 always applies
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  • [20:31:26] <mthiffau> I did try it. If I call none of the config code at all (and don't reset the device), then I can write characters because uboot configured the UART for me. But that doesn't help me if I want to change things. If I use the starterware example code, minus the FIFO config function, it doesn't work (I get nothing).
  • [20:31:55] <agmlego> Then maybe you have to have FIFos.
  • [20:31:58] <agmlego> Just saying.
  • [20:32:21] <KotH> then you have to ask someone from TI
  • [20:32:30] <KotH> it's unlikely anyone here knows the silicon details
  • [20:32:56] <KotH> if the TRM doesnt tell you waht you need to know, the only ones who know are the people from TI (if they have not been laid off yet)
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  • [20:33:51] <mthiffau> Yeah I'll try them I guess. It's disheartening to have to ask them though, considering how horrific the starterware code is. It doesn't inspire confidence :P
  • [20:34:06] <KotH> welll
  • [20:34:16] <KotH> BSP's in generall are horrible
  • [20:34:34] <KotH> they cost a lot to do, cost even more to maintain and don't bring any money
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  • [20:35:46] <mthiffau> It's a pretty neccessary part of having a successful hardware business though :P. You can't expect to sell many platforms if it's a massive pain in the ass to get things brought up. I guess most people are just using linux and don't care because somebody else has done the work already.
  • [20:36:01] <KotH> really?
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  • [20:36:19] <KotH> why does none of the BSPs of any silicon vendor work out of the box, then?
  • [20:36:23] <agmlego> KotH: BSP in this context is...?
  • [20:36:30] <KotH> board support package
  • [20:36:41] <agmlego> I figured as much, but there are many TLAs. ;-P
  • [20:36:44] <KotH> ie, the software you need to run anything on the stuff
  • [20:36:47] <agmlego> Yeah.
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  • [20:37:57] <mthiffau> I've been told that TI is much more interested in having you pay for one of their consultants to come to your company and just make it work for you up to the point where you can take over, rather than providing good documentation/bsp/etc.
  • [20:38:19] <KotH> mthiffau: for reference: freescale has an internal linux build system called LTIB. it has not seen any maintenance since the guy who wrote it left the company something like 5y ago
  • [20:38:42] <KotH> mthiffau: it's the same with all silicon vendors
  • [20:39:08] <mthiffau> I'm not trying to make the argument that TI is worse than anyone else. Doesn't change the fact that it's frustrating :P
  • [20:39:18] <KotH> mthiffau: heck, broadcom and qualcomm do for you the whole low level software. and you dont have to do anything for that
  • [20:39:31] <KotH> they even do it for free
  • [20:39:40] <KotH> with onsite engineers and everything
  • [20:39:58] <KotH> you just need to buy >10mio chips per year
  • [20:40:17] <mthiffau> Which as a university student I'm not exactly in a position to do :P
  • [20:40:47] <agmlego> Then you deal with the BSP and quit bitching. ;-P
  • [20:40:52] <KotH> stick with companies that traget low volume production
  • [20:41:00] <KotH> TI is quite good, Atmel too
  • [20:41:01] <agmlego> Or, start your own silicon house and offer a better product.
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  • [20:42:29] <KotH> agmlego: unless you have mio's to spare, no chance in hell to succeede
  • [20:42:52] <agmlego> I do not know what mio means.
  • [20:42:59] <KotH> millions
  • [20:43:00] <Vaizki> Million
  • [20:43:11] <KotH> an abrevation used by more civilized countries ;)
  • [20:43:15] <agmlego> THat is a dumb abbreviation.
  • [20:43:23] <agmlego> An uppercase M works just fine.
  • [20:43:28] <agmlego> SI says so. ;-P
  • [20:43:43] <KotH> usians often confuse upper and lower case M
  • [20:44:03] <agmlego> Not in my experience.
  • [20:44:10] <agmlego> As a USian.
  • [20:44:42] <KotH> yeah.. you've never seen milimirco and kilomega either?
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  • [20:45:24] <agmlego> Uh, no. Who the fuck does that anymore?
  • [20:45:39] <KotH> i read it once in a while
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  • [20:45:44] <thurgood> old people
  • [20:45:55] <agmlego> I know *really* old stuff was frequently in compound units like that.
  • [20:46:07] <KotH> funny thing that it has been replaced by the Si system something like 100 years ago.. but it looks like not everyone got the memo yet
  • [20:46:14] <agmlego> But that has not been anywhere near standard for around 30 years at least.
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  • [20:49:39] <KotH> as i said, i find it funny to see it anywhere as it has been replaced by the si system 100y ago.. in the us that is
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  • [21:55:43] <Crypto_> hey guys. anyone here?
  • [21:56:06] <thurgood> lots of people here... most are lurking though
  • [21:56:33] <Crypto_> 's what i figured
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  • [21:56:43] <Crypto_> you got any beaglebone knowledge?
  • [21:56:51] <_av500_> nah
  • [21:56:58] <_av500_> we would not be here then would we?
  • [21:57:06] <agmlego> Crypto_: Yes, it starts by reading the topic and the links therein.
  • [21:57:07] <Crypto_> i thought that -right- after i said that
  • [21:57:24] <thurgood> mostly beagle board for me, but some of it is general, rather than specific to either
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  • [21:57:38] * _av500_ knows how to google
  • [21:59:03] <Crypto_> so i found a list of compatable USB hubs, but mine wasn't on the list. It worked for a couple sessions and now wont work at all on the beagle. ive read about the beagle having some weird issues with power over USB, it flashes on, then doesnt register a thing. ive seen that this is a common problem on forums but no one has posted anything about fixing it.
  • [22:00:03] <nyt-> use a supported hub, one with its own power, or provide your bb with adequate power
  • [22:00:48] <thurgood> I don't know why a board would 'not' be supported if it was powered and a decent brand
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  • [22:01:24] <nyt-> what could go wrong
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  • [22:01:40] <_av500_> power the BBB from 5V
  • [22:01:43] <_av500_> thats the best way
  • [22:01:49] <_av500_> USB power can be tricky
  • [22:01:59] <Crypto_> yeah its a dynex 4 port, not too fancy. i figured power might be my issue. my 5v wall adapter is on the way. Tried a 5v 500mah usb-to wall thing, and a 1000mah one, and still doesnt work too well
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  • [22:02:25] <Crypto_> i work at an ecig shop and have acvcess to hella usb adapters and most of them i feel are insufficent
  • [22:02:35] <_av500_> 1000mA should work
  • [22:02:39] <_av500_> for sure
  • [22:03:22] <Crypto_> the 1000mah ones i have are really low quality and are really 1000mah +/-5% and i dont wanna fry my board
  • [22:03:28] <thurgood> .5Amps may not be enough, it would allow the bone to run full speed if you power with a usb port
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  • [22:03:47] <thurgood> would NOT
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  • [22:04:15] <Crypto_> the extra potential 5% woudlnt screw the pooch?
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  • [22:05:24] <_av500_> 5%?
  • [22:05:58] <Crypto_> its 1000mah +/-5%
  • [22:06:05] <_av500_> ignore that
  • [22:06:06] <Crypto_> really bad QA chinese usb adapter
  • [22:06:07] <Crypto_> oh ok
  • [22:06:38] <Crypto_> im gonna order a powered USB hub too. kinda puts a kink in my project but ill make due. what are you doing with your bbb?
  • [22:06:53] <_av500_> nothing
  • [22:06:55] <_av500_> :)
  • [22:07:00] <thurgood> the voltage is more important than the current as long as the current is sufficient
  • [22:07:37] <Crypto_> nothing? yeah im learning electrical theory by osmosis working with batteries and power all da y
  • [22:07:55] <foundatron> I've got a about the 3 powered hubs that've used with my bbbs
  • [22:08:01] <foundatron> no problems with any of them
  • [22:08:06] <foundatron> I haven't been picky
  • [22:08:15] <foundatron> just ordered whatever is cheapest on amazon
  • [22:08:30] <foundatron> probably not the best way to do it, but so far so good
  • [22:10:12] <foundatron> What i'm interested in is power supplies. in audiophiles circles folks always talk about linear vs switching power supplies. Switching being the more common but noisier ones.
  • [22:10:35] <foundatron> anyone got a good recommendation on bbb compatible linear power supply
  • [22:10:40] <foundatron> ( i know nothing)
  • [22:11:09] <foreverska_> Why would you care about noise to your BB?
  • [22:12:40] <nyt-> ok
  • [22:12:41] <nyt-> rule #1
  • [22:12:44] <nyt-> audiophiles are retarded
  • [22:13:00] <foreverska_> -.- lol
  • [22:13:27] <foundatron> dude, my mom was an audiophile
  • [22:13:47] <nyt-> sorry about your luck?
  • [22:14:00] <foundatron> try to be sensitive
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  • [22:14:13] <nyt-> I'll say a prayer
  • [22:14:49] <agmlego> It is a terrible condition.
  • [22:15:02] <agmlego> Loss of quality of life and dignity, and always such a messy end.
  • [22:15:12] <foundatron> That said, there some very cool things being done with high quality hifi on the beaglebone
  • [22:15:12] <agmlego> Totally incurable too.
  • [22:15:25] <nyt-> lol wat?
  • [22:15:35] <nyt-> high quality hifi?
  • [22:15:44] <foreverska_> .... These audiophiles you speak of would crucify you for saying hifi and beaglebone in the same sentence
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  • [22:16:23] <foundatron> meh
  • [22:16:32] <nyt-> well... beaglebone has an hdmi output.... so you'll get the same quality audio there as you would from any other digital audio output
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  • [22:16:43] <foundatron> by using it as a source
  • [22:17:02] <foundatron> and connecting to adac you can get great results
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  • [22:17:10] <foreverska_> ....
  • [22:17:11] <nyt-> that has nothing to do with the beaglebone lol
  • [22:17:19] <nyt-> any digital source would be the same
  • [22:17:30] <nyt-> except probably have less latency and jitter issues
  • [22:17:30] <foundatron> Using the beaglebone to regular output
  • [22:17:33] <nyt-> since you know isngle core
  • [22:17:39] <foundatron> and whether you down sample and wot not
  • [22:17:48] <nyt-> like i said
  • [22:17:53] <nyt-> <nyt-> audiophiles are retarded
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  • [22:18:48] <foreverska_> ...so you want to record audio using the ADC of your BB?
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  • [22:20:19] <nyt-> no ska
  • [22:20:22] <nyt-> theyre powering usb dacs
  • [22:20:37] <nyt-> its the latest audiotard trend
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  • [22:21:01] <nyt-> low impedance cans and silly usb adacs
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  • [22:21:14] <foreverska_> ... What...
  • [22:22:14] <nyt-> http://www.head-fi.org/products/category/amp-dacs
  • [22:22:17] <foreverska_> If you're outputting digital why give a flying f*ck about the power supply?
  • [22:22:43] <nyt-> <nyt-> <nyt-> audiophiles are retarded
  • [22:23:16] <foreverska_> Kids these days. Go buy a record player like a good hipster.
  • [22:23:18] <nyt-> seriously some of these tards are spending thousands on usb dacs with tube amps
  • [22:24:28] * felipealmeida is now known as felipealmeida_AW
  • [22:24:49] <foreverska_> All so they can fake analog media... well done.
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  • [22:25:41] <nyt-> http://www.stereophile.com/digitalprocessors/ayre_acoustics_qb-9_usb_dac/
  • [22:25:43] <nyt-> its hilarious
  • [22:26:19] <nyt-> they'd probably shit themselves if they heard real analog media
  • [22:26:24] <nyt-> zomg the cracks and pops and noise floor
  • [22:26:31] <nyt-> anyway
  • [22:26:46] <nyt-> that concludes my audiophile hate session for today
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  • [22:26:51] <nyt-> until one of them says something else stupid
  • [22:26:53] <nyt-> its only a matter of time
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  • [22:28:21] <foreverska_> I wouldn't mind a resurgence of tape reels. Those were cool looking atleast.
  • [22:29:02] <nyt-> i'm happy with digital
  • [22:29:12] <nyt-> dont have to worry about my vinyl getting scratched or my tapes stretched or any stupid issues
  • [22:29:17] <nyt-> or storing all the media
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  • [22:30:19] <foreverska_> I have a record player in the living room but 99.9% of the time I listen to digital.
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  • [22:33:43] <nyt-> my tables have been disconnected for some time now
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