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  • [15:23:12] * Set by KotH!~attila@lou-outside.kinali.ch on Tue Oct 29 07:13:11 CDT 2013
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  • [15:41:08] <GT> hello
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  • [15:41:43] <GT> I have removed a file from my BBB and I need to get it back. Can anyone help me?
  • [15:41:57] <GT> BBB running current Angstrom version
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  • [15:44:04] <GT> file is: /etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/getty@tty1.service
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  • [15:51:20] <KotH> GT: reinstall systemd
  • [15:51:27] <KotH> GT: that's the easiest way, IMHO
  • [15:51:36] <KotH> GT: but i dont know anything about angstr??m or systemd
  • [15:51:40] <Defiant> .o0(uninstall systemd)
  • [15:51:45] <KotH> GT: so take it with a grain of salt....
  • [15:52:17] <KotH> Defiant: you dnt want to force a user who knows very little about unix to modify his init system
  • [15:52:32] <KotH> Defiant: ok, maybe you want, but i'm not that sadistic
  • [15:52:36] <Defiant> :)
  • [15:54:51] <GT> its ok got a senior here im sure he'll know more about it
  • [15:55:29] <GT> but its not really harmful right now, got the serial console disabled even after a reboot so now i can use that port for ecdis
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  • [16:00:52] <KotH> ecdis?
  • [16:01:21] <KotH> and you do _NOT_ want to use the debug console for anything but debugging
  • [16:01:24] <KotH> use another UART
  • [16:01:39] <KotH> anything else is like shooting yourself into your foot... with a stardestroyer
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  • [16:04:46] <GT> KOTH? reason? ecdis = ship information gps route speed .. anything just an information protocol
  • [16:05:00] <GT> so why not use the ttyO0? it seems to work?
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  • [16:06:05] <KotH> GT: yes, but as soon as you have any problem with the system, you are blind
  • [16:06:16] <KotH> GT: the console is there for a reason
  • [16:06:30] <GT> i have mini-hdmi inserted and have it as a stand-alone pc? isn't that enough
  • [16:06:36] <KotH> GT: you dont touch it unless there is no other way to do it. but that's just the road to a lot of pain
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  • [16:07:04] <KotH> GT: you have IIRC another 3 serial ports. all of the unused. use one of then
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  • [16:07:25] <KotH> GT: this is _NOT_ a pc
  • [16:07:46] <KotH> GT: the output on HDMI does not come after the kernel booted and lot of stuff has been initialized
  • [16:08:24] <KotH> if anything fails before that point, you are screwed
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  • [16:09:15] <GT> thanks, will ask senior what he thinks about it
  • [16:11:20] <XorA> KotH: of course the other option is to move debug to another UART as its less used function
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  • [16:17:39] <GT> KoTH: you are right, he said you definetely have a point. But the re-installation of the system takes 30mins so he isn't too worried and tells me to continue. Thanks for your awesome feedback
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  • [16:27:34] <JuiceSSH> Our of curiosity, how do you move the debug to another UART?
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  • [16:28:29] <JuiceSSH> I'm using this UART micro-cape http://www.logicsupply.com/cbb-ttl-232/ for UART4 and it blocks off the debug UART
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  • [16:46:05] <DiegoTc> hi jkridner
  • [16:46:13] <jkridner> hi DiegoTc
  • [16:46:27] <DiegoTc> did you got time to modify the mockup?
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  • [16:47:17] <jkridner> no... thought you got enough info from me you were going to try a rev2
  • [16:47:49] <DiegoTc> just confirming :)
  • [16:48:00] <DiegoTc> are you on irc tomorrow
  • [16:48:05] <DiegoTc> or is your free time?
  • [16:48:30] <jkridner> I won't be around tomorrow.
  • [16:49:14] <DiegoTc> well it will be until monday I show you the new version, and confirming BeagleBoard is part of GSOC :)
  • [16:49:33] <jkridner> yeah. *fingers-crossed*
  • [16:49:56] <DiegoTc> jkridner: do you have any special framework you will lie to be use
  • [16:50:01] <DiegoTc> or is student choice?
  • [16:50:49] <jkridner> you can include your own choice of web frameworks, but they need to be open source, popular and reviewed by mentors.
  • [16:51:11] <DiegoTc> what about the database?
  • [16:52:20] <DiegoTc> do you work with a special datbase?
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  • [18:14:35] <disfigured> hi
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  • [18:20:53] <disfigured> I'm wondering how different is the beagle kernel tree from the mainline?
  • [18:21:04] <disfigured> are there any significant parts not mainlined yet?
  • [18:21:29] <vagrantc> main thing is capemgr
  • [18:21:39] <vagrantc> but i hear 3.14 is looking pretty viable
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  • [18:26:41] <disfigured> vagrantc: thank you
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  • [18:29:49] <disfigured> I could not load USB gadget drivers due to no UDC being present in Fedora 20 that uses mainline 3.11. Seemed to work on Angstorm. Could it be that my kernel was just missing some code, or is some extra setup needed to turn the USB controller into device mode?
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  • [19:10:11] <antistalk> yo any CPU experts here?
  • [19:10:29] <prpplague> *cough*
  • [19:11:13] <prpplague> antistalk: i doubt there are any experts here, but you can ask your question, if someone has time and can help they will respond in due course
  • [19:11:26] <mdp> ping
  • [19:11:52] <prpplague> naked
  • [19:12:28] <mdp> friday!
  • [19:12:39] * ds2 hands prpplague a jug of everclear for the cough
  • [19:12:52] <prpplague> ds2: thanks
  • [19:13:19] <antistalk> Well I was wondering if anyone knows about the Exynos family of processors. Specifically, whether they contain on-chip radios.
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  • [19:13:58] <antistalk> I know it's not specifically a BBB issue, but I assume there must be one or two people on here with security worries.
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  • [19:14:28] <antistalk> And yes, I got a coupla BBBs, in case you're thinking I'm just some insolent pup trawling various forums for answers.
  • [19:18:41] <antistalk> Well I think this is the sort of thing I was looking for:
  • [19:18:44] <antistalk> http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/nvidia-launches-tegra-4i-with-lte-on-board-333221
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  • [19:20:08] <KotH> antistalk: CPU's usually dont contain radios on the same chip
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  • [19:20:41] <KotH> antistalk: RF analog involves large strucutures, many um in size, which is a complete waste of expensive real estate on a CPU
  • [19:20:49] <antistalk> Well I think they're starting to appear. Here's the correct link I meant to post:
  • [19:20:53] <antistalk> http://www.phonearena.com/news/Exynos-4412---whats-in-store-with-the-quad-core-processor-in-the-Samsung-Galaxy-S3_id29615
  • [19:20:55] <KotH> antistalk: it's cheaper to build a different chip with the RF stuff in it
  • [19:21:12] <KotH> antistalk: chip != chipset
  • [19:21:25] <antistalk> Oh!
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  • [19:22:13] <antistalk> You mean to say that LTE-enabled chips mean they contain a fast-track interface to the radio chip elsewhere in the device?
  • [19:23:40] <antistalk> Quote from the first link:
  • [19:23:42] <antistalk> The Tegra 4i processor, which was codenamed 'Project Grey,' features 60 custom NVIDIA GPU cores, a quad-core CPU based on ARM's R4 Cortex-A9 CPU, in addition to a fifth battery saver core, along with a version of the NVIDIA i500 LTE modem.
  • [19:24:06] <sdaks> Anyone know where I can find the corresponding .dts (device tree source) files for the device tree binarys (.dtbo) in /lib/firmware of the BBB?
  • [19:24:58] <KotH> antistalk: s/fast-track//
  • [19:25:09] <KotH> sdaks: in the kernel sources?
  • [19:26:44] <Jonnyw2k> http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/processors/800-600-400-200/specs <-- apparently the qualcomm has the modem on the SoC aswell
  • [19:27:05] <antistalk> s/fast-track/DMA-like data access/
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  • [19:28:17] <antistalk> (unsure as to version of regex there - s/x/y/? s/x//y? GCHQ seems to like devs to need to program in 4 or 5 different lingos at once)
  • [19:29:19] <antistalk> Thanks for the solid link Jonnyw2k
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  • [19:31:30] <antistalk> Shame, that Odroid U3 looked a great shot at $60, especially with a $13 uSD Linux distro on top.
  • [19:31:45] <antistalk> Though I am quite happy with Fedora on the BBB
  • [19:31:59] <antistalk> 8)
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  • [19:36:02] <Jonnyw2k> GCHQ doing that hackers challenge to get a job thing again?
  • [19:36:43] <Jonnyw2k> http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/tegra-4-processor-uk.html
  • [19:36:58] <Jonnyw2k> the 4i does have the modem built in, and the tegra 4 is "optional"
  • [19:37:31] <Jonnyw2k> http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/i500-mobile-4g-lte-modem-uk.html
  • [19:37:36] <Jonnyw2k> and thats the modem itself
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  • [19:38:50] <antistalk> just had enough of the government trying to tell me when to go to bed early
  • [19:39:22] <antistalk> oand stuff...too productive a session, etc
  • [19:40:08] <Jonnyw2k> What!? Are you in prison or something :P
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  • [19:41:54] <antistalk> you mean by 'the modem itself' 'support for/integrates with...'?
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  • [19:42:25] <Jonnyw2k> No i think the chip is intergrated into the soc
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  • [19:42:44] <Jonnyw2k> so they have the actually SoC with LTE Modem in
  • [19:42:56] <antistalk> Well no, but I was a bit sweet and innocent with my first laptop
  • [19:42:58] <Jonnyw2k> and then a descrete unit for SoC's that dont contain the LTE
  • [19:43:42] <antistalk> So like if you wanted to write a script to generate a webstore you might not be able to keep out prying eyes?
  • [19:45:06] <antistalk> so either way the chip is supplied with a modem
  • [19:45:10] <antistalk> ?
  • [19:45:54] <antistalk> like the ones without the integrated LTE have integrated HSPA+?
  • [19:46:16] <antistalk> DAMN!!!
  • [19:47:23] <antistalk> No
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  • [19:47:54] <antistalk> Jeez
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  • [19:52:31] <antistalk> I think maybe life would be a lot simpler if i was less of a lazy programmer...keep it nice and simple, who cares who nicks your stuff ;)
  • [19:52:45] <vagrantc> sdaks: you can also turn a .dtb back into a .dts using device-tree-compiler/dtc
  • [19:52:47] <antistalk> OK i'm off...i got a website to code
  • [19:53:08] <antistalk> thanks Jonnyw2k for the enlightnement
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  • [19:53:13] <antistalk> ciao all
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  • [20:09:11] <mistawright> I have just built a real time kernel for my beagle bone black according to these instructions: http://dev.ardupilot.com/wiki/building-for-beaglebone-black-on-linux/
  • [20:10:14] <mistawright> I am ready to install my kernel. It says that in my boot folder I should see a uboot folder which i do not. How would I go about installing a kernel on the beaglebone black. take into consideration the rootfs is on the emmc
  • [20:10:53] <Jonnyw2k> what does mount show?
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  • [20:13:22] <mistawright> Jonnyw2k, it does not show boot is mounted
  • [20:13:51] <Jonnyw2k> you using normal angstrom?
  • [20:14:04] <mistawright> no I am using archlinux
  • [20:14:21] <Jonnyw2k> uhmmm
  • [20:14:28] <Jonnyw2k> whats your root mounted as?
  • [20:14:33] <Jonnyw2k> sda2 or something?
  • [20:14:48] <mistawright> /dev/mmcblk0p2
  • [20:15:06] <mistawright> mmcblk0 mmcblk0boot0 mmcblk0boot1 mmcblk0p1 mmcblk0p2
  • [20:15:20] <mistawright> those are the devices i have with mmcblk0 in the name
  • [20:15:48] <Jonnyw2k> tried mounting one of the boots?
  • [20:15:50] <Jonnyw2k> or both
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  • [20:17:09] <mistawright> mmcblk0p1 has boot items. MLO u-boot.img uEnv.txt
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  • [20:17:31] <Jonnyw2k> hmmm
  • [20:17:33] <mistawright> others were either write protected or wrong fs type even though i didnt specify
  • [20:17:39] <Jonnyw2k> ahh ok
  • [20:17:44] <Jonnyw2k> should be fat32 iirc
  • [20:18:49] <mistawright> i dont have the dosfstools so that makes sense let me install unmount and check them again
  • [20:19:06] <Jonnyw2k> what did mmcblk0p1 mount as?
  • [20:19:44] <mistawright> i just mounted it to a directory i made called test
  • [20:19:51] <mistawright> so I could see what was there
  • [20:19:52] <Jonnyw2k> # /dev/mmcblk0p1 1004 472 532 48% /boot/uboot
  • [20:20:05] <Jonnyw2k> apparently that is your uboot folder
  • [20:20:26] <mistawright> is that in your fstab?
  • [20:20:32] <mistawright> i have nothing in fstab
  • [20:20:39] <Jonnyw2k> found one on google lol
  • [20:20:54] <Jonnyw2k> goodness knows where my bbb is
  • [20:21:03] <Jonnyw2k> im just heading out the dooor in a min
  • [20:21:54] <Jonnyw2k> im sure my boot folder had more in it than that
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  • [20:22:39] <mistawright> yeah im not seeing what this guide is referring to for installing the kernel
  • [20:22:49] <mistawright> i have it and modules built just need it installed on the beaglebone
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  • [20:25:01] <Jonnyw2k> just PM'd you my "boot" folder
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  • [20:25:20] <Jonnyw2k> you might need to check the uEnv/txt
  • [20:25:28] <Jonnyw2k> it might be booting from else where
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  • [20:26:47] <mistawright> will do. i'll do some more reading but i should be able to get this knocked out over the weekend
  • [20:27:13] <Jonnyw2k> actually i think you just compile the kernel as a uimage
  • [20:27:17] <Jonnyw2k> and then replace it :P
  • [20:28:05] <mistawright> Thats what I though as well. I see a zImage file in my boot directory. need to see if I built that as well with the kernel
  • [20:28:20] <wmat> brianjaod: if by the system, you mean root, r/w access is inherent
  • [20:28:29] <Jonnyw2k> http://elinux.org/Building_BBB_Kernel#Transferring_the_image_to_the_BBB_via_TFTP
  • [20:29:01] <Jonnyw2k> anyway I need to get off
  • [20:29:22] <Jonnyw2k> I did do this before, I managed to boot from a USB stick, as i broke my microsd port and corrupted my emmc
  • [20:30:00] <Jonnyw2k> nick
  • [20:30:02] <Jonnyw2k> oops
  • [20:30:04] <mistawright> Can you not recover from a corrupt emmc? Dont want that to happen
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  • [20:30:19] <Jonnyw2k-Away> you can, if you have a microsd slot you can boot from
  • [20:30:30] <Jonnyw2k-Away> or in my case about 3days and a usb stick lol
  • [20:30:46] <mistawright> lol
  • [20:30:58] <Jonnyw2k-Away> i think witha zimage you have to load that and then the dtbo at the end of it
  • [20:31:12] <Jonnyw2k-Away> but i was trying to but the dtbo in the wrong memory space
  • [20:31:18] <Jonnyw2k-Away> which why it wouldnt boot form usb
  • [20:31:20] <brianjaod> wmat: thanks for the help, again. to this point the app isn't running as root, hence my problem
  • [20:31:55] <wmat> brianjaod: add your user to a group like wheel and give that group r/w rights
  • [20:31:57] <brianjaod> i've heard that that's a bad idea because of security, but i'm not sure how else to operate fbi without root
  • [20:33:09] <brianjaod> yes, i've done that, but then i get an error "ioctl VT_ACTIVATE: Operation not permitted", even though my user is in the same r/w group as /dev/fb0 and /dev/tty1
  • [20:35:47] <brianjaod> it seems that i can only get past that as root or sudo.
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  • [20:52:38] <ahsanalishahid> jkridner: Hi! I am interested in intergrating support libraries into Angstrom project for GSoC. I have a few questions regarding that.
  • [20:52:48] <jkridner> cool.
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  • [20:56:22] <ahsanalishahid> at the moment I am only familiar with Python. So can I apply for this project? Ruby and Perl can be learnt in a few days( although I have good grasp of C, Java, c# and a few more). I was also last year's GSoC participant.
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  • [21:04:58] <ahsanalishahid> jkridner: These libraries are almost fully functional, so what more knowledge do I need to have for their integration into Angstrom? Because I think a user can simply clone these libraries and start using them
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  • [21:05:40] <invent_> Hey can someone help me out with starting beaglebone projects?
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  • [21:31:40] <DJ_Friday_xM> Hi, sorry if I am interrupting conversation session. I have a question: How can I get beagleboard xM to detect the ethernet cable? I am on a windows computer trying to use the MATLAB support package to boot this board. Thanks.
  • [21:32:32] <jkridner> ahsanalishahid: that idea is old and needs to be fleshed out for this year...
  • [21:33:12] <jkridner> We're making a move to Debian for our in-the-box distro, but putting things into Angstrom packages in the Angstrom mainline is still rather helpful.
  • [21:33:32] <jkridner> ahsanalishahid: the exercise is primarily one of packaging.
  • [21:33:52] <jkridner> and testing... and extending (reporting bugs, documentation, etc.)
  • [21:34:26] <jkridner> there are all of these great libraries, but the end-user experience isn't there...
  • [21:34:47] <jkridner> getting it into the distros and providing example codes would help scale these projects...
  • [21:34:52] <jkridner> libsoc should be added now.
  • [21:35:22] <wmat> brianjaod: perhaps just start your app using sudo
  • [21:35:24] <jkridner> that would give a good hardware interface library set for Perl, Python, JavaScript and C/C++ at least.
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  • [21:36:40] <brianjaod> wmat: i'd like it to start automatically on boot up and always run, like a daemon. do those always run with root priv?
  • [21:37:05] <wmat> brianjaod: not always, but you can configure it to
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  • [21:37:49] <brianjaod> wmat: is that a potential security issue? i'm not familiar with secuirty best practices
  • [21:38:05] <sora_> can I get this working with beaglebone black? http://www.adafruit.com/products/1596
  • [21:38:45] <wmat> brianjaod: i guess, but is your app a potential target?
  • [21:39:29] <wmat> brianjaod: add your app to rc.local
  • [21:39:51] <jkridner> sora_: it is possible...... if *you* can, I don't know.
  • [21:39:54] <brianjaod> wmat: i would hope not, but who knows these days
  • [21:40:31] <sora_> jkridner: it's less expensive than the 4.3 lcd cap
  • [21:40:37] <jkridner> sora_: from a spec point of view, the interface is pretty standard.
  • [21:40:40] <wmat> brianjaod: i don't have much faith in the attackers ;)
  • [21:40:55] <sora_> you think it's worth trying? :)
  • [21:40:57] <jkridner> sora_: right, but you have to wire it up and configure the kernel....
  • [21:41:24] <jkridner> the 4.3" LCD Cape is tested and will "just work" with the Cape configuration EEPROM and pins that go right to the headers.
  • [21:41:41] <jkridner> sora_: I could do it in an afternoon.
  • [21:42:14] <jkridner> looking at http://www.adafruit.com/datasheets/KD50G21-40NT-A1.pdf there isn't a lot weird about it or anything...
  • [21:42:27] <jkridner> the resistive touch can be used as well....
  • [21:42:37] <jkridner> what worries me is that you look at it and have doubts.
  • [21:43:10] <sora_> i'm not really familiar with this kind of things
  • [21:43:16] <sora_> do you think i am able to do it ?
  • [21:43:18] <jkridner> sora_: those doubts tell me you've probably never played with device tree overlays or connecing an LCD panel.
  • [21:43:29] * jkridner doesn't know sora_
  • [21:43:32] <brianjaod> wmat: that's good to hear, thanks. :)
  • [21:43:45] <sora_> i never worked with lcd before ^^
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  • [21:46:02] <jkridner> I'd say the problem breaks down into the following areas: mechanically and electrically connecting the LCD display signals, powering the backlight, configuring the kernel for the LCD updates and configuring the kernel for the resistive touch including debugging whatever noise issues might exist
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  • [21:46:08] <sora_> jkridner: do you know a good place for me to start learning how to do it? :)
  • [21:46:26] <jkridner> look at the design for the LCD Cape.
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  • [21:47:13] <jkridner> Ideally, you'd buy one of those expensive LCD Capes and take a really good look at how everything comes together.... otherwise you are just looking at it in the ether, per se.
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  • [21:47:39] <jkridner> anyway, the schematics and software are all open source....
  • [21:48:02] <jkridner> so, looking at how one LCD is done might teach you to how another LCD might be done.
  • [21:48:26] <sora_> so i should start with the cape?
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  • [21:48:39] <sora_> i'm actually avoiding it cause it's expensive ^^
  • [21:49:08] <jkridner> sora_: depends how much frustration you are willing to endure to save money.
  • [21:49:18] <jkridner> if you are willing to endure a bit, then just look at the files: http://elinux.org/CircuitCo:BeagleBone_LCD4#Hardware_Files
  • [21:49:40] <jkridner> what is missing from that most fundamentally is the device tree overlays...
  • [21:49:55] <DJ_Friday_xM> How can I get a BeagleBoard xM to detect the ethernet cable connected from host laptop computer?
  • [21:49:56] <jkridner> wish I knew how people are supposed to discover those...
  • [21:50:50] <jkridner> sora_: just because I happen to know, this link will come in handy: https://github.com/beagleboard/cape-firmware/blob/master/dts/BB-BONE-LCD4-01-00A1.dts
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  • [21:51:26] <ahsanalishahid> jkridner: so, I guess making example codes for interfacing of different sensors and circuits using different libraries and testing them might be a good idea at the moment. But the main concern is how would I get the different modules for testing and preparing detailed how tos for that? I have BBB.
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  • [21:51:29] <jkridner> DJ_Friday_xM: what do you mean by detect? Doesn't Linux have some cable-detect status?
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  • [21:51:42] <hrw> hi
  • [21:51:54] <sora_> jkridner: what is it about ?
  • [21:51:56] <sora_> hello
  • [21:52:22] <jkridner> ahsanalishahid: the 'modules' are readily available. can you be more specific about the challenge in getting the modules?
  • [21:52:51] <hrw> is there any howto about using beaglebone (white) to reflash SPI flash chips? I have one device to unbrick by reflashing (no jtag there)
  • [21:52:55] <jkridner> sora_: CapeMgr loads the device tree overlay configuring the kernel to talk to the LCD.
  • [21:53:02] <DJ_Friday_xM> I am using a windows computer and the mathworks beagleboard support package so that I can boot it and be able to run simulink on it later
  • [21:53:03] <jkridner> gm hrw
  • [21:53:08] <hrw> hi jkridner
  • [21:53:23] <hrw> jkridner: I finally have a use for my beaglebone white ;D
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  • [21:53:30] <jkridner> hrw: do you mean EEPROMs (instead of flash)?
  • [21:53:55] <hrw> jkridner: spi flash w25q32dw
  • [21:53:59] <jkridner> BeagleBone white doesn't boot from eMMC flash.... it just boots from a microSD card.
  • [21:54:37] <jkridner> hrw: oh... so you *added* a SPI flash? I don't think it ships with SPI flash on the board.... just EEPROM.
  • [21:54:43] <hrw> jkridner: "1.8v 32mbit serial flash memory with dual/quad spi & qpi"
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  • [21:54:58] <hrw> jkridner: no - it is spi flash chip in my chromebook
  • [21:55:23] <hrw> jkridner: I need to clip it and reprogram
  • [21:56:08] <ahsanalishahid> jkridner: I mean the cost. Because I am an undergrad student. There are some sensors that I can arrange like SR-04 , LDRs and temperature sensors like LM35 , but for more expensive it would be difficult for me to buy them
  • [21:56:15] <sora_> jkridner: okay thanks a lot :)
  • [21:56:26] <sora_> this will do for today, i hope we talk more later
  • [21:56:31] <sora_> bye bye :)
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  • [21:56:38] <hrw> bye sora
  • [21:56:47] <DJ_Friday_xM> Bye!
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  • [21:58:16] <jkridner> hrw: I'm not finding a SPI flash anywhere on https://github.com/CircuitCo/BeagleBone-RevA6/blob/master/BEAGLEBONE_REV_A6A.pdf
  • [21:58:39] <jkridner> hrw: oh... your chromebook
  • [21:58:44] <hrw> jkridner: yes
  • [21:59:35] <hrw> jkridner: chromebook has 8pin spi flash on which I will put clip and wire all pins to beaglebone. just have to find out how to connect all spi lines etc
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  • [22:00:48] <jkridner> hrw: ah! I was confused and thought you were saying the SPI Flash was *on* the BeagleBone. Guess you just need the SPI Flash Linux drivers in general.
  • [22:00:57] <hrw> ;)
  • [22:01:02] <jkridner> hrw: which kernel/image are you using
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  • [22:01:12] <hrw> jkridner: flashrom should take care
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  • [22:01:39] <hrw> jkridner: no idea. I got my beaglebone ~1.5y ago at elc/e in barcelona and never updated
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  • [22:01:57] <jkridner> ahsanalishahid: you can leverage the community for some testing to save you some costs. getting things packaged up cleanly would be the primary coding task for that particular idea. you are welcome to change the ideas around quite a bit.
  • [22:01:59] <DJ_Friday_xM> @jkridner, I am I am using a windows computer and the mathworks beagleboard support package to boot the xM so that I can be able to run Simulink on it later. Thanks
  • [22:02:01] <hrw> jkridner: will probably update to latest angstrom
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  • [22:06:17] <jkridner> ahsanalishahid: I thought I was addressing that concern.
  • [22:07:14] <jkridner> DJ_Friday_xM: if you are trying to directly connect via a cross-over cable, it is tricky.
  • [22:07:32] <jbdatko> I know the GPIO to sysfs formula (num_chip * 32 + num_pin), but what is the source document that describes this? The BBB SRM has the GPIO to PIN tables, but I don't think it describes this formula. Is it the TI AM335X TRM?
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  • [22:08:58] <ahsanalishahid> jkridner: yeah. you are right. I was mixing both ideas of making examples for newbies and packaging different libraries with angstrom.
  • [22:09:10] <jkridner> hrw: k. stuff like https://github.com/beagleboard/meta-beagleboard/blob/master/common-bsp/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-mainline-3.8/dma/0027-ARM-dts-Add-SPI-Flash-support-to-am335x-evm.patch should be kinda helpful to you.
  • [22:09:54] <ahsanalishahid> I guess both ideas can be done during the course of whole summer
  • [22:10:22] <DJ_Friday_xM> @jkridner: Yes, I am using a crossover cable as somebody had suggested me. Any hints regarding what tricks I might need use? I also have a 10/100 ethernet cable if you have any suggestions on it. Thanks
  • [22:10:24] * jkridner looks toward mdp who has clearly done something with SPI flash
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  • [22:10:45] <hrw> jkridner: thanks
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  • [22:11:32] <jkridner> DJ_Friday_xM: probably the simplest way is to statically assign IP addresses on both ends of the cable.
  • [22:12:10] <jkridner> DJ_Friday_xM: you can google about assigning a static IP to your BeagleBoard-xM and it is in the network config panel in Windows.
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  • [22:14:58] <DJ_Friday_xM> @jkridner, thanks for your help! On to applying/trying your suggestions now #peace
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  • [22:16:09] <mdp> hrw, the patch jkridner linked illustrates what pins you need to hook up fairly well. get the datasheet for your spi flash to understands its pinout
  • [22:16:28] <hrw> mdp: I have datasheet already ;)
  • [22:16:31] <mdp> then if you look at the pins muxed in that dts patch..you'll see that d1 acts as MOSI
  • [22:16:37] <mdp> hrw, great!
  • [22:16:42] <mdp> d0 is MISO
  • [22:16:43] * jkridner thanks mdp for showing up
  • [22:16:56] <mdp> cs0/sclk are well commented
  • [22:17:17] <mdp> so you identify those on BBB using the SRM and hook them up to your flash
  • [22:17:20] * jkridner notes that no .dts files seem to have been published for SPI Flash and the discontinued memory cape.
  • [22:17:21] <hrw> mdp: if spi flash has d0-d3 it should still work fine with d0-d1 (chip is marked as dual/quad spi)
  • [22:17:34] <hrw> mdp: s/BBB/BBW :D
  • [22:17:35] <mdp> correct..those all work in single mode
  • [22:17:37] * jkridner glares at missing prpplague regarding discontinuation of the memory cape
  • [22:17:46] <mdp> dual/quad requires special commands to engage the other lanes
  • [22:17:48] <mdp> jkridner, np ;)
  • [22:17:58] <mdp> hrw, no difference in this case
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  • [22:18:11] <hrw> mdp: cool, thanks a lot
  • [22:18:48] <hrw> mdp: once I will get to it I will write a blog post with some photos
  • [22:18:50] <mdp> hrw, be aware that you may be using a different spi master on your BBW
  • [22:19:11] <mdp> so you need to adjust the dts accordingly for the different pinmux and spi node depending on what you do
  • [22:19:15] <hrw> ok
  • [22:19:16] <mdp> hrw, nice!
  • [22:19:49] <mdp> as you can see..on am335x-evm that spansion flash is on mcspi0
  • [22:20:01] <mdp> have fun
  • [22:21:35] <hrw> mdp: I will take care to do it in a time to have possibility of you being on irc ;D
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  • [22:23:14] <iandow> Has anyone seen thus error:
  • [22:23:15] <iandow> No such file or directory: '/slots'
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  • [22:23:44] <iandow> when using python Adafruit_BBIO.PWM
  • [22:24:24] <jkridner> iandow: haven't seen it, but I can imagine a few reasons for it.
  • [22:24:45] <hrw> bye
  • [22:25:18] <iandow> why would it happen?
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  • [22:28:16] <jkridner> iandow: what happens if you do 'ls /sys/devices/bone_capemgr*/slots'?
  • [22:28:42] * jkridner sees only reference at https://github.com/adafruit/adafruit-beaglebone-io-python/blob/b984cbd111f7b2fb099afe77e4e30882c10f4e60/source/common.c#L342
  • [22:30:22] <iandow> no such file
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  • [22:31:21] <iandow> I just installed the latest Angstrom beaglebone image. It may be flawed. I think I'll revert back to Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.12-beaglebone-2013.06.20.img.xz
  • [22:32:07] <jkridner> iandow: that version should have capemgr.
  • [22:32:29] <jkridner> and should the 2013.09.04 image
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  • [22:33:14] <jkridner> iandow: for that file to be missing, something else has to be going wrong. but, it can't hurt to refresh the image you are running.
  • [22:33:22] <jkridner> http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
  • [22:33:51] <iandow> ok, it's possible I did something wrong when I installed the image. Thanks for your help
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