• [00:05:02] <vvu|Log> gui_: as i know you cannot from an usb stick. u need a uSD card to do so or connect it to a Linux pc and flash from there the eMMC
  • [00:05:04] <Vaizki> afaik, you can't
  • [00:05:39] <gui_> a have a ubuntu VM, does it help?
  • [00:05:42] <Vaizki> usb booting is supported by the BBB but not from usb stick, instead it's a way for a PC to provide the kernel over a usb stream
  • [00:06:20] <Vaizki> I have never tried it, sounds a bit involved and needs special TI software on the PC I guess
  • [00:06:38] <Vaizki> but you can network boot the BBB if you are really stuck
  • [00:07:04] <gui_> how?
  • [00:07:24] <gui_> is it that tftp thing i've read somewhere?
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  • [00:07:28] <vvu|Log> Vaizki: https://github.com/ungureanuvladvictor/BBBlfs this is for flashing BBB from PC
  • [00:08:08] <Vaizki> vvu|Log: hmmmm interesting!
  • [00:08:20] <vvu|Log> did it over the summer during GSoC
  • [00:09:24] <Vaizki> excellent
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  • [00:11:00] <Vaizki> so how does it work really.. pushes spl over usb to BBB which then loads uboot over usb which creates a usb network device and then netboots a flasher?
  • [00:11:03] <gui_> vvu|Log, the image i need to use, is it the zImage?
  • [00:11:24] <vvu|Log> you meed to suply the .img
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  • [00:11:35] <vvu|Log> the rest is contained on github
  • [00:11:48] <vvu|Log> follow the instructions on how to build there in the readme, think they are really good
  • [00:13:01] <Vaizki> so how does it work? :)
  • [00:13:13] <Vaizki> or do I read the source...
  • [00:13:19] <vvu|Log> 1st the software supplies MLO to the BBB in ROM USB Boot mode
  • [00:13:28] <vvu|Log> MLO tries to do bootp over USB
  • [00:13:31] <vvu|Log> gets u-boot
  • [00:13:32] <gui_> cannot locate device :(
  • [00:13:46] <Vaizki> right
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  • [00:13:50] <vvu|Log> u-boot does same thingie but gets a FIT (flatten image tree) from the PC with kernel+ramdisk+dtb
  • [00:13:59] <gui_> cannot open* device
  • [00:14:06] <vvu|Log> that ramdisk when it starts it emulates a g_serial device
  • [00:14:34] <vvu|Log> then the software pushes the .img that needs to be flashed to it, then on the BBB the image is xz-ed and dumped to /dev/mmcblkx
  • [00:14:41] <vvu|Log> this is the flow of operations
  • [00:14:47] <Vaizki> right
  • [00:14:48] <vvu|Log> gui_: sudo it
  • [00:15:06] <Vaizki> so no netboot, just serial transfer.. but other than that I kinda guessed
  • [00:15:09] <vvu|Log> also the initial project was to do this on an Android Phone with USB host capabilities
  • [00:15:16] <Vaizki> yea I saw the link
  • [00:15:17] <vvu|Log> and it works :D
  • [00:15:34] <vvu|Log> even though android kernel complains about the BBB when you connect
  • [00:15:47] <vvu|Log> the AM335x in usb boot mode advertises that it can do OTG but it is not implemented
  • [00:16:11] <vvu|Log> i tried to to gadgetfs instead of g_serial but did not work, do not remember the issues
  • [00:16:17] <Vaizki> right..
  • [00:16:56] <vvu|Log> ayway i'm out, have fun people here
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  • [00:18:35] <Vaizki> sleep for me as well
  • [00:19:05] <gui_> still can't open device :/
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  • [00:22:11] <gui_> I found a 1GB uSD card
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  • [00:22:28] <gui_> should be more than enough to install u-boot
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  • [00:27:13] <frege> hey guys
  • [00:27:24] <frege> I'm trying to use my board, just bought it
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  • [00:27:33] <frege> connected it with usb to macbook air
  • [00:27:38] <frege> installed those two drivers
  • [00:28:03] <frege> but I can't connect to http://192.168.7.2
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  • [00:31:09] <dcj123> Hello Everyone, I am trying to recompile the Linux kernel for the BBB by following the instructions here - http://elinux.org/Building_BBB_Kernel - Trouble is, after following the guide perfectly I get a kernel panic stating that it cannot open root device "(null)". Does anyone have a clue what I could be doing wrong?
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  • [00:34:47] <Crofton|work> dcj123, loook at the kernel command liner
  • [00:36:38] <dcj123> um how? I already tried defining the U-boot bootargs with setenv
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  • [00:49:45] <Dr{Who}> Q. anyone see issues with a BBB not getting a dhcp address at boot sometimes. It seems to be random and running udhcpc from the local console fixes it every time. Feels like a race condition. I dont know much about connman. Still looking for how to get the failure to log an event. Nothing shows up on the journal as a fail that I can see.
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  • [00:50:38] <Dr{Who}> I end up getting a 169.254 address
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  • [01:01:00] <frege> hey guys
  • [01:01:14] <frege> is there a way to give internet to my board from usb?
  • [01:01:42] <frege> I have it connected to a macbook air via usb, and I have internet from wifi on macbook air
  • [01:02:43] <dcj123> Yes and no, I have had little luck with it but there are a few links explaining how to do it. Give me minute and I'll find them for you.
  • [01:02:54] <frege> tnx
  • [01:03:03] <dcj123> What OS are you using?
  • [01:03:14] <dcj123> On the Macbook Air?
  • [01:03:15] <frege> the default one
  • [01:03:18] <frege> aah
  • [01:03:46] <frege> not the new one
  • [01:03:52] <frege> 10.8.5
  • [01:04:04] <frege> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ is down
  • [01:05:05] <alan_o> frege: You'll want to use the gadget driver (usb device) for usb ethernet emulation.
  • [01:05:10] <thurgood> on the beagle side you'll need to insert the g_ether kernel module for starters
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  • [01:05:41] <frege> alan_o: I think I'm using HoRNDIS right now
  • [01:05:42] <alan_o> frege: Add this on the command line ip=192.168.2.124 g_ether.host_addr=36:97:13:EC:31:BD
  • [01:05:56] <alan_o> rndis isn't going to work on a mac.
  • [01:06:01] <dcj123> There is this but its for a Linux computer not a Mac - http://robotic-controls.com/learn/beaglebone/beaglebone-internet-over-usb-only
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  • [01:06:10] <frege> I have ssh alan_o
  • [01:06:24] <Tenkawa> greetings all
  • [01:06:28] <frege> alan_o: where do I add that?
  • [01:06:33] <alan_o> frege: you're ssh-ing to your beaglebone?
  • [01:06:35] <alan_o> over the usb
  • [01:06:36] <alan_o> ?
  • [01:06:39] <frege> alan_o: I have network access yeah
  • [01:06:41] <frege> over usb
  • [01:06:45] <alan_o> ok, then you've done the hard part
  • [01:06:50] <alan_o> HoRNDIS is a mac thing?
  • [01:06:50] <frege> oh cool
  • [01:06:58] <frege> yeah it's working on mac
  • [01:07:04] <frege> it's for tethering from android
  • [01:07:10] <frege> but it works for this board too
  • [01:07:20] <frege> bbb setup has that link though!
  • [01:07:26] * Tenkawa tries getting usb working on 3.12 on his bbb
  • [01:07:30] <frege> so how do I share internet?
  • [01:07:43] <alan_o> frege: you'll have to do that on the mac side
  • [01:07:47] <alan_o> set up your mac as a gateway
  • [01:07:57] <alan_o> then do what's in the link that dcj123 provided
  • [01:08:08] <Tenkawa> alan_o: he'll need to use nat forwarding right?
  • [01:08:13] <alan_o> but of course make sure the IPs are compatible
  • [01:08:24] <alan_o> Tenkawa: yeah, whatever that's called in the Mac configuration
  • [01:08:29] <alan_o> connection sharing, something like that
  • [01:08:30] <thurgood> inernet sharing is easy to set up on the mac
  • [01:08:32] <Tenkawa> ah yes
  • [01:08:34] <alan_o> basically NAT, but renamed :)
  • [01:08:37] <thurgood> it's under sharing
  • [01:08:38] <Tenkawa> yeah
  • [01:08:44] <frege> thurgood: would you guide me through this?
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  • [01:09:17] <Tenkawa> i tried the icculus android build on my bbb today.. not bad
  • [01:09:32] <thurgood> I don't have a bbb, I've only done it on the classic and xM using an ubuntu VM
  • [01:09:48] <Tenkawa> would be better if i could use my edimax wifi with it
  • [01:09:52] <frege> I think it worked
  • [01:10:01] <frege> thurgood: do I need to restart bbb?
  • [01:10:11] <frege> my ssh it cutoff now
  • [01:10:15] <thurgood> shouldnt need to, no
  • [01:10:16] <Tenkawa> frege: you shouldnt need tp
  • [01:10:18] <Tenkawa> er to
  • [01:10:26] <frege> weird
  • [01:10:32] <frege> b/c now I can't ping that ipp
  • [01:10:40] <Tenkawa> hmm
  • [01:10:51] <frege> I think it needs to be restarted
  • [01:10:51] <Tenkawa> you might need to check the firewall settings in os z
  • [01:10:53] <thurgood> you can't ssh through the usb and share internet on it at the same time as far as I know
  • [01:10:54] <Tenkawa> er os x
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  • [01:11:34] * Tenkawa still remembers the old dual bonded ppp days
  • [01:11:58] <thurgood> like win-trumpet?
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  • [01:12:18] <Tenkawa> thurgood: yeah that, livingston stuff, and slirp
  • [01:12:39] <Tenkawa> eql something
  • [01:13:01] <Tenkawa> that was the mid 90's though
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  • [01:13:39] <Tenkawa> now i just need to figure out why my new 3.12 bbb kernel gives my libusb errors
  • [01:13:47] <frege> ok I shared it from mac side
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  • [01:13:55] <frege> do I need to do anything else on bbb part?
  • [01:14:03] <frege> I think I need to change the ip right?
  • [01:15:09] <frege> connect: Network is unreachable
  • [01:16:04] <Tenkawa> the bbb usb doesnt need a firmware bin by itself does it?
  • [01:16:13] <thurgood> you might need to bring up the interface manually
  • [01:16:20] <Tenkawa> i dont remember seeing one in 3.8
  • [01:16:28] <frege> it's up
  • [01:16:35] <frege> thurgood: you mean usb0 or eth0?
  • [01:16:38] <thurgood> on the beagle side?
  • [01:16:51] <frege> yeah it's up
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  • [01:17:22] <thurgood> do you have any connection to the beagle other than ssh, ie keyboard and monitor?
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  • [01:17:37] <frege> no I don't
  • [01:18:00] <thurgood> ah that's tricky then
  • [01:18:01] <Tenkawa> ouch
  • [01:18:04] <Tenkawa> indeed
  • [01:18:18] <frege> yeah
  • [01:18:31] <thurgood> mine thend to get the ip address 192.168.2.2 when I share from the mac side
  • [01:18:49] <frege> mine gets :192.168.7.2
  • [01:19:05] * Tenkawa is just glad to be using a router connected uplink
  • [01:19:29] <thurgood> that's not the dynamic ip that the mac hands out
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  • [01:20:07] <Tenkawa> frege: can you currently ssh to the bbb?
  • [01:20:52] <frege> yeah Tenkawa
  • [01:20:53] <Tenkawa> if so run a netstat -rn and see what the default gateway is set to.
  • [01:21:02] <Tenkawa> once logged in
  • [01:21:20] <frege> one to 192.168.43.0 for eth0
  • [01:21:27] <frege> 192.168.7.0 for usb0
  • [01:21:31] <Tenkawa> .0?
  • [01:21:39] <frege> means range
  • [01:21:45] <frege> 0 to 255
  • [01:21:55] <Tenkawa> does the gateway address seem right though
  • [01:22:02] <frege> yeah
  • [01:22:04] <frege> you know what
  • [01:22:18] <frege> I'm gonna change en2 ip on mac side
  • [01:22:27] <frege> make it in the range of my wireless
  • [01:22:36] <gui_> i need with urgency an image less than 1GB
  • [01:22:41] <gui_> where can I find it? :S
  • [01:22:43] <frege> then connect it to bbb, hoping that dhcp will give it the same ip
  • [01:23:26] <Tenkawa> frege: which distrib you running on the bbb btw?
  • [01:23:37] <frege> Tenkawa: the default one :(
  • [01:23:40] <Tenkawa> ah
  • [01:24:10] * Tenkawa has all of his arm boxes (rpi,bbb,freescale) running slackware
  • [01:24:21] <thurgood> do yo uhave a regular ethernet port that you can use on a router?
  • [01:24:56] <thurgood> that's generally the easiest method
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  • [01:26:07] <frege> slackware is awesome!
  • [01:26:24] <Tenkawa> i like it.. mind you i started using it in 1993
  • [01:26:26] <frege> I learned linux with slackware in terminal
  • [01:26:28] <thurgood> have you tried pining 192.168.2.2 yet, btw?
  • [01:27:13] <frege> I think I fucked it up
  • [01:27:15] <frege> changed the ip
  • [01:27:32] <thurgood> actually alan_o gave you a command to to use 192.168.2.124
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  • [01:28:00] <Tenkawa> frege: dont fret
  • [01:28:10] <thurgood> you should be able to restart if you can't get to it
  • [01:28:32] <Tenkawa> thurgood: he could find it with a tcpdump and broadcast ping
  • [01:28:48] <frege> arp?
  • [01:28:54] <Tenkawa> frege: indeed
  • [01:29:06] <thurgood> or just
  • [01:29:11] <thurgood> reboot :P
  • [01:32:10] <frege> I have to install python dev package on it
  • [01:32:24] <frege> that's why I need internet, I can scp it too but it will be a pain
  • [01:32:59] <Tenkawa> frege: if you traceroute -n to a remote ip from the bbb how far does it get?
  • [01:33:20] <frege> let me see
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  • [01:33:24] <frege> right now I don't have ssh
  • [01:33:46] <Tenkawa> switch that ip range you changed back
  • [01:34:21] <frege> Tenkawa: how do I reboot it?
  • [01:34:32] <Tenkawa> you should be able to default route via interface to the mac, then its connection sharing "should" take care of the rest
  • [01:34:37] <Tenkawa> reboot which ?
  • [01:34:47] <frege> oh got it nm
  • [01:34:54] <Tenkawa> ok cool
  • [01:35:09] <frege> root@beaglebone:~# traceroute -n 4.2.2.4
  • [01:35:11] <frege> traceroute to 4.2.2.4 (4.2.2.4), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1traceroute: sendto: Network is unreachable
  • [01:35:15] <Tenkawa> ahhh
  • [01:35:39] <frege> I can ping the gateway though
  • [01:35:42] <frege> I mean my laptop
  • [01:35:51] <Tenkawa> does that netstat i gave you have a "default" entry?
  • [01:36:02] <Tenkawa> errr
  • [01:36:06] <Tenkawa> 0.0.0.0
  • [01:36:19] <Tenkawa> for dest
  • [01:36:35] <frege> what was the command?
  • [01:36:40] <frege> netstat -n?
  • [01:36:43] <Tenkawa> netstat -rn or -r
  • [01:36:54] <frege> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface
  • [01:36:54] <frege> 192.168.7.0 * 255.255.255.252 U 0 0 0 usb0
  • [01:37:02] <Tenkawa> thats a
  • [01:37:05] <Tenkawa> ll?
  • [01:37:12] <frege> that's netstat-r
  • [01:37:20] <Tenkawa> there we go
  • [01:37:25] <Tenkawa> you need...
  • [01:37:29] <frege> ?
  • [01:37:44] <Tenkawa> route add default ip_address_of_gateway
  • [01:37:48] <frege> ifconfig add gateway ?
  • [01:37:49] <Tenkawa> try that
  • [01:38:13] <frege> no such a device
  • [01:38:24] <Tenkawa> let me look up my syntax
  • [01:38:27] <Tenkawa> just a sec
  • [01:38:50] <Tenkawa> doh
  • [01:38:58] <Tenkawa> route add default gw ip_address_of_gateway
  • [01:39:01] <frege> route add default gw 192.168.1.254 eth0
  • [01:39:03] <frege> yeah
  • [01:39:04] <frege> gotcha
  • [01:39:20] <frege> to usb0
  • [01:39:20] <frege> ?
  • [01:39:21] <frege> or eth0?
  • [01:39:25] <Tenkawa> no decice
  • [01:39:27] <Tenkawa> er device
  • [01:39:41] <frege> oh shit
  • [01:39:49] <frege> now it's getting somewhere
  • [01:39:49] <Tenkawa> good or bad?
  • [01:39:56] <frege> ping is waiting
  • [01:39:58] <frege> hahaha weird
  • [01:40:05] <frege> ping got stuck
  • [01:40:10] <Tenkawa> that might happen with ics
  • [01:40:13] <Tenkawa> and nat
  • [01:40:13] <frege> root@beaglebone:~# ping 4.2.2.4
  • [01:40:13] <frege> PING 4.2.2.4 (4.2.2.4) 56(84) bytes of data.
  • [01:40:23] <Tenkawa> try nslookup something
  • [01:40:36] <frege> root@beaglebone:~# netstat -r
  • [01:40:36] <frege> Kernel IP routing table
  • [01:40:36] <frege> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface
  • [01:40:36] <frege> default 192.168.7.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 usb0
  • [01:40:38] <frege> 192.168.7.0 * 255.255.255.252 U 0 0 0 usb0
  • [01:40:43] <frege> sorry guys for the paste
  • [01:40:46] <Tenkawa> make sure you have a nameserver entry in /etc/resolv.conf
  • [01:41:06] <frege> Tenkawa: right now it's /etc/resolv.conf
  • [01:41:14] <Tenkawa> is 7.1 the connection sharing ip?
  • [01:41:31] <frege> nameserver 127.0.0.1
  • [01:41:43] <frege> yeah 192.168.7.1 is my laptop
  • [01:42:24] <Tenkawa> frege: nameserver 127... wont get you anywhere
  • [01:42:42] <Tenkawa> use whatever the os x one uses
  • [01:42:44] <frege> I changed it to
  • [01:42:50] <frege> beagleboard 192.168.7.2
  • [01:42:52] <frege> right?
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  • [01:42:57] <Tenkawa> no
  • [01:42:58] <frege> ahhh!
  • [01:43:14] <Tenkawa> and see if a nslookup works
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  • [01:43:23] <frege> this is osx nameserver 192.168.43.1
  • [01:43:28] <frege> are you sure?
  • [01:43:38] <Tenkawa> that will indicate if the connection is good
  • [01:43:50] <Tenkawa> is that a router on your net?
  • [01:43:59] <frege> which one?
  • [01:44:04] <Tenkawa> 43.1
  • [01:44:07] <frege> yeah that's my cellphone
  • [01:44:12] <frege> I'm tethering from my cellphone
  • [01:44:20] <Tenkawa> yeah try using that one
  • [01:44:48] <frege> so on beagleboard:/etc/resolv.conf , you are saying that I should have nameserver 192.168.43.1
  • [01:44:49] <Tenkawa> then just do a nslookup www.google.com
  • [01:44:51] <frege> right?
  • [01:44:54] <Tenkawa> yes
  • [01:45:13] <frege> does it need a network service restart?
  • [01:45:18] <Tenkawa> nope
  • [01:45:32] <frege> don't have ping yet
  • [01:45:51] <Tenkawa> dont ping
  • [01:45:54] <Tenkawa> nslookup
  • [01:46:01] <frege> root@beaglebone:~# nslookup google.com
  • [01:46:01] <frege> Server: 192.168.43.1
  • [01:46:02] <frege> Address 1: 192.168.43.1
  • [01:46:12] <Tenkawa> icmp can be tricky through nat
  • [01:46:21] <Tenkawa> just hanging?
  • [01:46:27] <frege> yeah
  • [01:46:29] <frege> aah
  • [01:46:33] <frege> nslookup: can't resolve 'google.com'
  • [01:46:44] <Tenkawa> is your connection share to the os x box through usb or eth?
  • [01:46:50] <frege> usb
  • [01:46:55] <Tenkawa> hmmm
  • [01:47:14] <Tenkawa> its getting to the mac it seems
  • [01:47:23] <Tenkawa> with the route added
  • [01:47:57] <Tenkawa> i know theres some connection sharing logs
  • [01:48:03] <frege> I'm playing with sharing on mac
  • [01:48:10] <Tenkawa> not sure where they are hiding though
  • [01:48:24] <Tenkawa> my os x box is routed direct
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  • [01:49:21] <frege> I renabled sharing on mac , it disconnected me from bbb
  • [01:49:28] <jenia> hello everyone
  • [01:50:12] <jenia> can someone advise me please, for a nice tutorial on how to connect to the beaglebone throught the ethernet cable
  • [01:50:23] <Tenkawa> frege: i feel like it is close to working... just not sure
  • [01:50:28] <jenia> my operating system is on the sd card not the hard drive
  • [01:50:31] <Tenkawa> jenia: elaborate please
  • [01:50:54] <jenia> i need to ssh to the operating system (ubuntu) that on my sd card
  • [01:51:03] <jenia> the beagle bone boots from the sd card
  • [01:51:10] <Tenkawa> jenia: is it up and running?
  • [01:51:28] <jenia> at this moment no
  • [01:51:41] <Tenkawa> you can configure it to just use dhcp
  • [01:51:42] <jenia> but normally yes, the operating system is loading and all
  • [01:51:54] <Tenkawa> whats the difficulty?
  • [01:52:20] <jenia> i dont know how to do it
  • [01:52:29] <jenia> so you're saying hhcp and beaglebone
  • [01:52:34] <jenia> ill just google that
  • [01:52:38] <Tenkawa> frege: after you restarted it did it let you reconnect again?
  • [01:52:46] <Tenkawa> jenia: make suree you look up ubuntu
  • [01:52:56] <frege> not yet
  • [01:53:05] <jenia> and me im running debian on my own computer
  • [01:53:22] <Tenkawa> jenia: you should be able to add iface eth0 inet dhcp to /etc/network/interfaces i think
  • [01:53:30] <Tenkawa> frege: hmmm
  • [01:53:50] <Tenkawa> frege: from the mac can you ping the usb int on the bbb?
  • [01:53:56] <jenia> thanksa lot tenkawa
  • [01:54:10] <Tenkawa> jenia: sure no problem
  • [01:54:12] <frege> I changed the ip again on the mac side to see if it fixes it
  • [01:54:14] <Tenkawa> good luck
  • [01:54:18] <frege> but now I can't see bbbb
  • [01:54:32] <Tenkawa> frege: if you do that you must change the bbb too
  • [01:54:47] <Tenkawa> frege: do not change anything on the osx side
  • [01:54:50] <frege> Tenkawa: I thought bbb is set to get it from DHCP
  • [01:55:13] <Tenkawa> frege: you have to renew the lease though
  • [01:55:24] <Tenkawa> cant do that if you cant connect
  • [01:56:05] <frege> yeah true
  • [01:56:07] <Tenkawa> if the dhcp scope changes while a lease is still active the dhcp client really doesnt care if i remember correctly
  • [01:56:09] <frege> now I'mback
  • [01:56:29] <Tenkawa> ok
  • [01:56:37] <frege> oh shit when I restart it, it flushes all the configs?
  • [01:56:37] <Tenkawa> lets set up a test
  • [01:56:40] <frege> the route is gone
  • [01:56:41] <Tenkawa> yes
  • [01:56:51] <Tenkawa> you have to add that to configs
  • [01:56:52] <frege> didn't know that
  • [01:56:59] <Tenkawa> when we get it all working
  • [01:57:06] <frege> ok
  • [01:57:29] <Tenkawa> so..
  • [01:57:31] <Tenkawa> first off
  • [01:57:36] <Tenkawa> get the int up
  • [01:57:45] <Tenkawa> route add the usb gateway again
  • [01:58:43] <frege> route added
  • [01:58:45] <Tenkawa> why does the eth device on the bbb even have an ip?
  • [01:58:55] <frege> I gave it
  • [01:58:59] <Tenkawa> you arent using it right?
  • [01:59:03] <Tenkawa> removecit
  • [01:59:06] <frege> no I'm not
  • [01:59:07] <Tenkawa> er remove it
  • [01:59:13] <frege> ifconfig eth0 down?
  • [01:59:16] <Tenkawa> ifconfig eth0 down
  • [01:59:18] <Tenkawa> yep
  • [01:59:21] <frege> done
  • [01:59:24] <Tenkawa> ok
  • [01:59:32] <frege> now do edit /etc/resolv.conf
  • [01:59:33] <frege> ?
  • [01:59:36] <Tenkawa> yep
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  • [01:59:52] <Tenkawa> match it up with your os x boc's
  • [01:59:54] <Tenkawa> er box
  • [02:00:02] <frege> done
  • [02:00:05] <Tenkawa> ok
  • [02:00:13] <Tenkawa> see if nslookup works now
  • [02:00:42] <frege> root@beaglebone:~# nslookup google.com
  • [02:01:13] <Tenkawa> well darn
  • [02:01:35] <frege> what do you think?
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  • [02:01:40] <frege> doesn't seem to be working
  • [02:01:45] <frege> nslookup: can't resolve 'google.com'
  • [02:01:50] <Tenkawa> does this do anything?
  • [02:01:57] <Tenkawa> telnet 173.194.46.112 80
  • [02:02:14] <Tenkawa> if not run a traceroute -n 173.194.46.112
  • [02:02:25] <frege> nah
  • [02:02:38] <frege> I don't see anything out of my laptop
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  • [02:02:44] <frege> can't even reach my cellphone
  • [02:02:47] <Tenkawa> if it hits the gateway the os x box is stopping you
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  • [02:03:28] <frege> no it doesn't hitt the gateway
  • [02:03:36] <Tenkawa> oh it didnt?
  • [02:03:41] <frege> root@beaglebone:~# traceroute -n 173.194.46.112
  • [02:03:42] <frege> traceroute to 173.194.46.112 (173.194.46.112), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 * * * 2 * * * 3 * * * 4
  • [02:03:51] <Tenkawa> can it ping the gw?
  • [02:04:09] <frege> root@beaglebone:~# ping 192.168.7.1
  • [02:04:09] <frege> PING 192.168.7.1 (192.168.7.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
  • [02:04:10] <frege> 64 bytes from 192.168.7.1: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=0.485 m
  • [02:04:11] <frege> yes
  • [02:04:18] <frege> but my internet is in a different range
  • [02:04:23] <Tenkawa> yes
  • [02:04:24] <frege> it's on 192.168.43.1
  • [02:04:41] <Tenkawa> that means theres no forwarding between 7.0 and 43.0
  • [02:04:45] <frege> right
  • [02:04:49] <frege> iptables ?
  • [02:04:52] <Tenkawa> which isnt surprisimg
  • [02:05:01] <Tenkawa> no.. this is on the mac
  • [02:05:13] <Tenkawa> the mac is whats stopping it now
  • [02:05:19] <Tenkawa> my theory anyaay
  • [02:05:20] <frege> yeah on mac
  • [02:05:25] <Tenkawa> my theory anyway
  • [02:05:34] <frege> I'm saying should we forward 7.0 to 43.0
  • [02:05:42] <frege> ur right it's on mac
  • [02:05:45] <Tenkawa> yeah
  • [02:06:13] <frege> what if we add a route on mac, say route everything from and to 7.0 43.0
  • [02:07:34] <frege> tethering on android doesn't let me set ip
  • [02:09:12] <frege> I'm gonna install a tethering app that lets me choose the ip
  • [02:10:13] <jonpry> you probably need network address translation stuff on the mac
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  • [02:11:29] <Tenkawa> nat on os x is tricky
  • [02:12:05] * Tenkawa reapplies patches to his bbb kernel source
  • [02:12:34] <Tenkawa> too bad my compile cluster is offline tonight
  • [02:12:49] <Tenkawa> guess i'll set this compile to run all night
  • [02:12:51] <Tenkawa> hehen
  • [02:13:29] <Tenkawa> frege: i think that doublenatting is causing the problem
  • [02:13:41] <Tenkawa> since its natting to the phone already
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  • [02:15:17] <Tenkawa> too bad its not just a hotspot device
  • [02:16:49] <Dr{Who}> mystery solved. WHen plugged into our cisco switch directly it wont dhcp at boot unless I run udhcpc. Does connmand have a built in dhcpc client?
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  • [02:19:10] <Tenkawa> frege: out of ideas for now.. good luck though.. you might still try that manual fowarding though
  • [02:23:11] <Tenkawa> cheers all, time for me to finish up for the night
  • [02:23:18] <Tenkawa> jenia: any luck?
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  • [02:24:45] <jenia> yes i found this:
  • [02:24:54] <jenia> one second
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  • [02:24:59] <Tenkawa> sure
  • [02:25:19] <jenia> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian#eMMC:_BeagleBone_Black%29
  • [02:25:25] <jenia> then in Debian Configuration
  • [02:25:39] <jenia> To start a login console on ttyO2 (the serial header next to P9), edit /etc/inittab and add:
  • [02:25:39] <jenia> T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyO2 115200 vt102
  • [02:25:45] <jenia> i think thats what i need
  • [02:25:51] <jenia> though i didnt try it yet
  • [02:25:54] <Tenkawa> thats a serial console
  • [02:26:03] <Tenkawa> not networking
  • [02:26:43] <jenia> is it through the usb?
  • [02:26:52] <Tenkawa> no
  • [02:26:55] <jenia> or the ethernet card
  • [02:26:57] <jenia> ethernet?
  • [02:27:10] <Tenkawa> that line above? neither
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  • [02:27:24] <Tenkawa> you need to edit /etc/network/interfaces
  • [02:27:38] <Tenkawa> if its debian/ubuntu based
  • [02:28:06] <jenia> thanks ill search for that now
  • [02:28:15] <jenia> thanks man
  • [02:28:24] <Tenkawa> np... there should be a default file there
  • [02:28:39] <Tenkawa> man 5 interfaces i think too
  • [02:28:52] <Tenkawa> that should be the right man chapter
  • [02:28:59] <Tenkawa> dont quote me pthough
  • [02:29:14] <Tenkawa> ok.. good luck all.. be back tomorrow
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  • [02:32:41] <frege> jeeez
  • [02:33:04] <frege> I hate this kinda networking issues
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  • [02:35:31] <frege> ok I think my board is fucked
  • [02:35:38] <frege> three leds on usb stay on
  • [02:35:45] <frege> and I can't connect to the board
  • [02:37:19] <vvu|Log> networking is ok but networking with Apple is crap
  • [02:37:54] <vvu|Log> they have the crappy BSD stack for networking and you are screwed with it
  • [02:38:52] <frege> yeah
  • [02:38:59] <frege> linux is straight forward
  • [02:39:14] <frege> ok back to the beginning
  • [02:39:52] <vvu|Log> i`m trying to port my project to osx and the kernel does not let me inject packets directly into the ethernet card :(
  • [02:42:00] <frege> vvu|Log: what's the command for iptables on macs?
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  • [02:43:22] <vvu|Log> frege: ipfw i think
  • [02:43:31] <vvu|Log> just google, have no clue in this area with macs
  • [02:43:41] <vvu|Log> i just did some low level networking here with libpcap
  • [02:43:44] <frege> this is really boring
  • [02:44:41] <vvu|Log> what are you trying to do? the conversation above is too long tl;dr
  • [02:45:12] <frege> vvu|Log: trying to share internet from mac with bbb using usb tethering
  • [02:45:28] <vvu|Log> ahhh mac RNDIS
  • [02:45:46] <frege> yup
  • [02:45:59] <vvu|Log> i can just say good luck with that!
  • [02:46:14] <vvu|Log> do you know a way to block the RNDIS kernel kext on mac ?
  • [02:46:45] <frege> no
  • [02:46:53] <frege> vvu|Log: then how do you guys share internet?
  • [02:47:00] <frege> do you even have internet on bbb?
  • [02:47:13] <vvu|Log> i just connect it directly to my router
  • [02:47:22] <frege> aah cool
  • [02:47:41] <vvu|Log> did not do much with linux on BBB, i just got into u-boot stuff and booting it from USB
  • [02:47:49] <vvu|Log> when linux started my job there was done
  • [02:48:02] <frege> I need to install bunch of python packages
  • [02:48:22] <frege> and this crappy linux distro doesn't have a package mgmt apparently
  • [02:48:26] <frege> their website is down
  • [02:48:28] <vvu|Log> why just don't plug in to the router directly ?
  • [02:48:36] <vvu|Log> you are running angstrom ?
  • [02:49:07] <frege> yeah angstrom
  • [02:49:17] <frege> vvu|Log: I don't have a router, I tether from my cellphone
  • [02:49:23] <frege> that's my only connection
  • [02:49:44] <vvu|Log> ahh then things are out of my scope here, can't really help
  • [02:50:01] <vvu|Log> if you have serial link to the BBB why not tether directly into the BBB
  • [02:50:09] <vvu|Log> suppose usb cable tether to mac too, right ?
  • [02:50:11] <vvu|Log> or wi-fi ?
  • [02:50:58] <frege> wifi
  • [02:51:15] <vvu|Log> ah..no idea if so
  • [02:51:17] <frege> I will download packages and then scp and install manually
  • [02:51:20] <frege> fuck it :)
  • [02:51:33] <vvu|Log> :))
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  • [03:02:10] <frege> ah man I can't even find the right packages
  • [03:02:31] <frege> http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2013.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/python/
  • [03:02:37] <frege> older than what's currently on my board
  • [03:02:38] <frege> !
  • [03:02:59] <frege> has anyone installed fedora on bbb?
  • [03:04:32] <jonpry> no like debian armhf?
  • [03:04:53] <frege> jonpry: does it have apt ?
  • [03:05:01] <jonpry> yes
  • [03:05:10] <jonpry> what kind of debian wouldn't have apt?
  • [03:06:32] <dlg> one that you run buildroot on and reboot into
  • [03:06:36] <frege> I'm really tired
  • [03:06:46] <frege> hoping to get this working in 30 mins
  • [03:07:35] <frege> why did they ship it with this linux?
  • [03:07:44] <frege> why not slackware or debian or something else?
  • [03:07:58] <jonpry> i don't understand this angstrom stuff either
  • [03:08:09] <jonpry> but switch to debian is easy
  • [03:10:18] <dlg> i switched to debian
  • [03:10:24] <dlg> its been far less annoying
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  • [03:10:59] <frege> I prefer slackware or fedora, debian isn't that bad either
  • [03:11:10] <frege> but angstrom????
  • [03:11:21] <frege> weird choice as the default distro
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  • [03:11:58] <thurgood> angstrom was the first to support the hardware... so not such an unusual choice
  • [03:12:12] <frege> ah okay
  • [03:12:17] <frege> you mean first to support ARM?
  • [03:12:25] <thurgood> no
  • [03:12:56] <thurgood> first to support the beagle products, at least in recent history
  • [03:13:26] <jonpry> ti has been using angstrom since before debian armhf and probably before armel worked very well
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  • [03:16:53] <frege> still compiliing python 2.7.6
  • [03:17:21] <frege> I got too attached to good processing power
  • [03:17:40] <bahar> i switched to ubuntu.... it's been so much nicer
  • [03:17:49] <bahar> angstrom uses ancient packages.... ruby was still on 1.9.3 :(
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  • [03:18:30] <frege> interesting nickname bahar
  • [03:19:21] <bahar> thanks
  • [03:20:13] <jenia> please can someone point me to a reference on how to setup a DHCP server with beaglebone and ubuntu(running on beaglebone) and debian on my mahcine
  • [03:20:20] <jenia> or something similar
  • [03:20:37] <jenia> but im booting the beaglebone from a microsd card
  • [03:20:50] <jenia> and want to ssh to the beaglebone
  • [03:23:18] <frege> where can I get python-smbus ?
  • [03:23:23] <frege> I need the source
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  • [05:39:38] <eggzeck-laptop> frege: Have you EVER done that before?
  • [05:40:41] <eggzeck-laptop> oops, I meant jenia*
  • [05:40:59] <eggzeck-laptop> jenia: Have you EVER done that before? (there fixed haha)
  • [05:42:36] <jenia> hehe
  • [05:42:39] <jenia> no never
  • [05:42:44] <jenia> but i want to
  • [05:43:03] <jenia> of course i cant without any references.
  • [05:43:19] <jenia> if you know of any tutorial or combination tutorial i can go though
  • [05:43:47] <jenia> i would be eternally grateful because you will have helped achieve something serious and wonderful
  • [05:43:57] <_av500_> settingup a dhcp server on ubuntu is like on any other ubuntu system
  • [05:44:02] <_av500_> apt get install something
  • [05:44:10] <_av500_> its ubuntu after all
  • [05:44:16] <eggzeck-laptop> _av500_: He/she just stated he/she never has done it before
  • [05:44:18] <jenia> do i set up a DHCP on my debian system (pc)
  • [05:44:25] <eggzeck-laptop> _av500_: Which is why I asked what I asked.
  • [05:45:09] <eggzeck-laptop> jenia: First thing I would learn is how to install a server image of Ubuntu on a machine (even your beaglebone if you want)
  • [05:45:11] <jenia> and then the ubuntu running on the beagle will contact the dhcp server and assign itself a ip address that i will be able to find with nmap"
  • [05:45:12] <jenia> ?
  • [05:45:18] <jenia> i already it did
  • [05:45:36] <jenia> i only need to ssh to the ubnutu on the beagle from the debian on my machine
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  • [05:53:43] <eggzeck-laptop> jenia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/dhcp3-server
  • [05:55:20] <eggzeck-laptop> jenia: That's of course assuming you already have a server install of Ubuntu on a given machine.
  • [05:56:47] <vagrantc> jenia: you just need to figure out what ip address the board got so you can ssh to it?
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  • [06:13:30] <jenia> thanks
  • [06:13:50] <jenia> so the DHCP server will run on debian right
  • [06:13:52] <jenia> ?
  • [06:13:56] <jenia> (on the pc)
  • [06:14:34] <jenia> and the unbutn kernel (on the beagle) or some driver thats installed with it will be able to implement the DHCP client protocol
  • [06:14:39] <jenia> basically like that?
  • [06:16:44] <vagrantc> the dhcp client is *usually* a user-space process, although it could be built into the kernel
  • [06:17:23] <vagrantc> most OSes default to using a dhcp client for the network
  • [06:19:28] <vagrantc> jenia: how does your debian machine get it's network configuration? or you want to set up an isolated network between your debian computer and the beaglebone?
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  • [06:35:39] <jenia> i feel a little shame but i cant answer
  • [06:35:42] <jenia> hehe
  • [06:36:02] <jenia> are you saying i already have a dhcp network set up?
  • [06:36:18] <jenia> the server running on the pc/debian system
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  • [06:37:19] <vagrantc> jenia: if your debian machine has internet access, you probably have a dhcp server set up somewhere on your network
  • [06:37:40] <vagrantc> jenia: such as a DSL/cable modem
  • [06:38:34] <vagrantc> jenia: is your goal just to ssh to the beaglebone?
  • [06:38:47] <jenia> so does that mean i should have the beagle/deabian machine visible on the network easily
  • [06:38:56] <jenia> iwth nmap for example?
  • [06:39:08] <jenia> beagle/ubuntu***
  • [06:39:12] <vagrantc> if you plug it into the same network, it should be visible, sure
  • [06:39:22] <jenia> into the router?
  • [06:39:25] <vagrantc> unless there's a misconfiguration or something
  • [06:40:18] <jenia> is the DHCP running on the router?
  • [06:40:27] <jenia> hehe maybe not but i just want tto make sure
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  • [06:47:18] <vagrantc> jenia: usually a router runs a dhcp server, yes.
  • [06:48:07] <jenia> nice that i asked
  • [06:48:08] <jenia> haha
  • [06:48:11] <jenia> thanks very much
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  • [10:13:05] <ste> test
  • [10:13:12] <jjc> If i want to write an image from a uSD card to the eMMC using the dd command, how would i go about it? Google searching just gives me results about copying the image from a PC onto the uSD card
  • [10:13:12] <ste> any one here?
  • [10:13:45] <ste> I have a question
  • [10:14:15] <ste> Is it possible to configure BBB as a hid input device? for example to emulate mouse
  • [10:15:58] <eggzeck-laptop> ste: Using dd?
  • [10:16:09] <eggzeck-laptop> oops, ste*
  • [10:16:14] <eggzeck-laptop> damnit
  • [10:16:18] <eggzeck-laptop> jjc**
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  • [10:16:26] <eggzeck-laptop> Looooooooong night haha
  • [10:17:23] <ste> take a nap maybe?
  • [10:17:42] <eggzeck-laptop> I can't! I wish, newborn baby and deadlines to meet
  • [10:18:15] <eggzeck-laptop> not to mention two needy dogs
  • [10:19:36] <ste> it's life then
  • [10:19:53] <woglinde> drop the dogs
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  • [10:20:00] <woglinde> only costs moneny
  • [10:20:28] <eggzeck-laptop> I wish I only saw them as dogs.
  • [10:20:41] <eggzeck-laptop> And my girl would kill me.
  • [10:23:11] <woglinde> drop the girl too
  • [10:23:17] <eggzeck-laptop> lol
  • [10:23:47] <eggzeck-laptop> I was just about to say "the only solution would be to leave all of them and pay for child support. Then visit my child". But I think that would hurt me
  • [10:24:21] <woglinde> eggzeck-laptop you could tell the court the dogs attacked the kids
  • [10:24:29] <woglinde> that would solve all problems
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  • [10:24:49] <eggzeck-laptop> haha
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  • [10:25:40] <Kevinrz2> hello guys, Angstrom-DIstribution page not working?
  • [10:26:53] <Kevinrz2> Anyone? I cant find any pages from their website angstrom-distribution.org, portal Shifted?
  • [10:27:25] <eggzeck-laptop> Kevinrz2: Seems to be down atm
  • [10:27:29] <eggzeck-laptop> Kevinrz2: What do yo uneed?
  • [10:28:11] <eggzeck-laptop> Kevinrz2: If it's just a new image for your beaglebone go here: http://www.beagleboard.org/latest-images
  • [10:28:18] <Kevinrz2> i needed to see the packages
  • [10:28:30] <Kevinrz2> get the x264 libraries
  • [10:28:34] <Kevinrz2> for gstreamer
  • [10:29:16] <Kevinrz2> its Been down for quite some time now .... something dosn't seem right.
  • [10:29:41] <eggzeck-laptop> I haven't noticed, what's quite some time?
  • [10:29:48] <woglinde> Kevinrz2 opkg does not work?
  • [10:29:52] <Kevinrz2> like for th past week
  • [10:29:58] <Kevinrz2> the website was not accesible
  • [10:30:32] <woglinde> hm there was a us mirror somewhere
  • [10:30:48] <woglinde> but you could ask in the angstroem channel too
  • [10:32:25] <jjc> eggzeck-laptop: yep using dd
  • [10:33:42] <jjc> eggzeck-laptop: it doesnt have to be, it just seemed like it was the easiest option, if you know of another better option I would be glad to hear
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  • [10:34:44] <Kevinrz2> ok, stupid question, how do i join Angstrom IRC?
  • [10:36:17] <eggzeck-laptop> Kevinrz2: type "/j #angstrom" in your IRC client
  • [10:37:57] <Kevinrz2> thank u sir :)
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  • [10:40:47] <vvu|Log> is there any android image that can be flashed on the eMMC for the BBB ?
  • [10:40:57] <eggzeck-laptop> jjc:
  • [10:41:06] <eggzeck-laptop> jjc: "cp" would do just fine, no need to use "dd"
  • [10:41:30] <jjc> cp will write the image?
  • [10:43:06] <jjc> eggzeck-laptop:
  • [10:44:17] <av500> vvu|Log: there are android images, no?
  • [10:44:19] <eggzeck-laptop> jjc: Oh sorry, I misunderstood what you wanted to do.
  • [10:45:01] <vvu|Log> av500: yes but directly that can be flashed on the eMMC not uSD ones, somebody sent me an email asking something like this.
  • [10:45:17] <av500> well
  • [10:45:21] <vvu|Log> he is suing my beagleboot project
  • [10:45:22] <av500> repack it for emmc
  • [10:45:26] <av500> ic
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  • [10:47:38] <XorA> Kevinrz2: something seems to have gone wrong with linuxtogo where Angstrom is hosted, we are still waiting to hear from them, I assume it is a non trivial issue
  • [10:55:27] <Kevinrz2> oh thank god :) i thought someone bought it and stuff lol :/ long live Open Source!!
  • [10:55:33] <Kevinrz2> thanks for the info XorA
  • [10:56:10] <XorA> Kevinrz2: no, the domain is safely held by Crofton|work AFAIK
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  • [10:56:26] <Crofton|work> ye, autorenew on credit card
  • [10:57:19] <XorA> Crofton|work: have to admit first thing I did when it went AWOL was check the whois :-D
  • [10:57:36] <Crofton|work> :)
  • [10:58:02] <XorA> Crofton|work: did you chat with florian, I have not been around last couple of days
  • [10:58:14] <Crofton|work> I haven't had a chance
  • [11:00:10] <XorA> florian: ping, any news on LTG issues?
  • [11:00:19] * florian waves... one sec. just returned to the office after fixing a car :)
  • [11:03:56] <florian> Yes I have news... someone used the machine to attack some other one and the provider disconnected it :-/ Unluckily we have quite some people with shell access... I currently sorting out how to get access and trying to "fix" this. But it will take a while...
  • [11:04:20] <honestly> ouch
  • [11:04:33] <XorA> florian: thanks for update
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  • [11:13:50] <Crofton|work> sounds like we need to send the OE mafia after someone
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  • [11:42:40] <ZiNC> hi
  • [11:44:26] <Vaizki> morjens
  • [11:44:56] <vvu|Log> hi!
  • [11:48:19] <kath> hi
  • [11:48:39] <kath> anyone available online now...
  • [11:48:40] <kath> ???
  • [11:53:24] <ZiNC> Not only anyone, but everyone.
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  • [12:14:31] <vikky> i am not getting register a project in beaglebone.org project site
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  • [12:28:22] <ZiNC> What?
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  • [12:31:45] <SpeedEvil> On PRUs.
  • [12:32:26] <SpeedEvil> I'm interested in taking a parallel ADC and connecting to the BBB. This would ideally buffer to a large buffer in main RAM.
  • [12:32:58] <SpeedEvil> What sort of speed can I get (assuming optimal things) if I have a PRU doing reading and writing to main RAM?
  • [12:33:36] * KotH points at panto
  • [12:33:45] <KotH> but the lazy greek guy is out for lunch
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  • [12:34:08] <Sam_> hi
  • [12:34:16] <ZiNC> Hi.
  • [12:34:47] <Sam_> Hi ZiNC
  • [12:34:49] <KotH> Lo
  • [12:34:59] <panto> SpeedEvil, I think you'll be mostly limited by DRAM b/w
  • [12:35:06] <Sam_> is http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ site down?
  • [12:35:07] <panto> and stalls due to arbitration
  • [12:35:19] <panto> how fast is your ADC?
  • [12:35:32] <SpeedEvil> panto: I'm assuming some sort of FIFOy thing with the 8K RAM
  • [12:35:44] <SpeedEvil> panto: Let's say arbitrarily fast for the moment.
  • [12:35:51] <Vaizki> just write it directly to dram
  • [12:36:03] <SpeedEvil> Vaizki: That will suffer from stalls.
  • [12:36:18] <panto> in that case I'd use a pipelining scheme
  • [12:36:35] <panto> have PRU0 read from ADC, store to shared SRAM (0 stalls)
  • [12:36:40] <Vaizki> can the prus dma stuff out?
  • [12:36:43] <panto> and have PRU1 store to DRAM
  • [12:37:02] <panto> Vaizki, they can, but the setup/teardown cost of the DMA channels is not worth it
  • [12:37:10] <Vaizki> ok
  • [12:37:13] <panto> remember you only have a couple of K at most in internal SRAM
  • [12:37:22] <SpeedEvil> panto: yeah - that was basically what I was assuming.
  • [12:37:22] <panto> the PRU _is_ your DMA
  • [12:38:10] <panto> well, if you're doing general signal conditioning storing the values in some kind of compressed delta format will save a log of b/w
  • [12:38:19] <panto> you don't have to store the raw values
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  • [12:39:13] <panto> you will be limited by DRAM b/w anyway, optimize for it
  • [12:39:15] <SpeedEvil> panto: I want basically an oscilloscope.
  • [12:39:47] <SpeedEvil> panto: And in principle, the BBB has >200MB/s memory bandwidth. So that's not the answer.
  • [12:40:04] <Vaizki> why do you want to do it with a BBB then...
  • [12:40:18] <panto> SpeedEvil, _shared_ bandwidth
  • [12:40:20] <SpeedEvil> Vaizki: Because it's much, much cheaper in some cases.
  • [12:40:35] <panto> and that assumes full cache line fills
  • [12:40:42] <ZiNC> How 200MB/sec?
  • [12:40:54] <SpeedEvil> panto: Right - transferring a full cacheline at a time isn't an issue.
  • [12:41:12] <SpeedEvil> (Given the 8K buffer)
  • [12:41:18] <panto> you're not the only one accessing DRAM
  • [12:41:32] <panto> lots of bus masters
  • [12:42:30] <av500> like full HD video decode at the same time
  • [12:42:37] <ZiNC> Is the memory bus 16-bit?
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  • [12:42:58] <panto> can't recall exactly but I think yes
  • [12:43:06] <Vaizki> I would probably get a Spartan FPGA or something..
  • [12:43:11] <panto> anyway, lunch time
  • [12:43:13] <Vaizki> but no, I don't know what I'm doing here :)
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  • [12:43:45] <SpeedEvil> Vaizki: Beagle is ratehr cheaper than a FPGA with several hundred meg of memory. I was wondering about the limits.
  • [12:43:49] <av500> SpeedEvil: you could write a small PRU app that just writes to SDRAM
  • [12:43:50] <ZiNC> Bon appetit.
  • [12:43:53] <av500> and see how fast it gets
  • [12:44:00] <SpeedEvil> av500: that was basically what I was wondering about
  • [12:44:06] <SpeedEvil> av500: no HW at the moment
  • [12:44:41] <SpeedEvil> av500: also - I do wonder what the input limits would be. Can you in fact read the port pins in back to back 200MHz reads and get reliably different results?
  • [12:47:40] <av500> PRU runs at 200mhz
  • [12:47:54] <av500> that does not mean you can read port pins at 200mhz
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  • [12:48:21] <SpeedEvil> I know.
  • [12:48:49] <av500> either you sync to some clock, or you make the clock
  • [12:48:56] <SpeedEvil> I haven't found any answer as to how fast the PRU can read them and get reliable answers despite a few minutes of searching
  • [12:49:17] <av500> I understand you can read/write a GPIO at every cycle
  • [12:49:25] <av500> so that should be OK
  • [12:49:27] <SpeedEvil> Even neglecting the memory bandwidth.
  • [12:49:40] <av500> hmm
  • [12:49:42] <av500> GPMC
  • [12:49:49] <av500> with DMA
  • [12:49:53] <SpeedEvil> av500: you can read it - sure. If you have a 100MHz squarewave (of the right phase) and you issue two reads - will you actually get the right figures.
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  • [12:50:11] <av500> if you can do DMA chaining you can set it up and it will fill ping pong buffers on its own
  • [12:50:26] <av500> SpeedEvil: you need sync to a clock
  • [12:50:59] <av500> I guess GPMC can generate a read clock
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  • [12:51:05] <av500> and you can use that to clock your AD
  • [12:51:10] <SpeedEvil> av500: In most cases, yes, and that would generally be the only sane way of doing it. I know that the PRU can do clocked reads - but have been unable to find clock speed limits.
  • [12:51:13] <av500> so you read as fast as GPMC can input data
  • [12:51:21] <av500> ah
  • [12:51:28] <av500> no idea about clocked reads on PRU
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  • [12:51:57] <av500> on GPMC, yes
  • [12:52:05] <av500> basic DMA
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  • [12:52:27] <SpeedEvil> What's the maximum DMA clock then?
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  • [12:54:42] <av500> no idea, RTFDS :)
  • [12:55:02] <jonpry> the maximum gpmc clock is 100mhz @ 16bit
  • [12:55:08] <SpeedEvil> jonpry: thanks!
  • [12:55:23] <SpeedEvil> jonpry: Is this reflective of actual read ability on the pins?
  • [12:55:29] <av500> yes
  • [12:55:34] <av500> otherwise it makes little sense
  • [12:56:07] <jonpry> need burst transfers for high throughput
  • [12:57:36] <SpeedEvil> hmm
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  • [12:58:35] <jonpry> not sure how you would really attach an ADC without some kind of fpga for glue
  • [12:58:46] <av500> why?
  • [12:58:52] <av500> why not use gpmc
  • [12:59:14] <av500> assuming gpmc can have a fixed data rate
  • [12:59:35] <av500> if it cannot, yes then you need a fifop
  • [12:59:38] <av500> -p
  • [12:59:49] <SpeedEvil> jonpry: you connect the clock and data pins to the GPIOs, connect the appropriate supply and other voltages, and press the green button
  • [13:00:59] <jonpry> i thought you wanted gpmc?
  • [13:01:33] <SpeedEvil> I am entirely uninterested in the way it goes from pins to memory.
  • [13:01:47] <jonpry> gpmc is different pins
  • [13:02:09] <SpeedEvil> I just am trying to work out the answer to 'what is the fastest way of without stalls to go from clocked pins into memory reliably'
  • [13:03:06] <KotH> SpeedEvil: if you really want to do an oscilloscope type thing, i would recommend that you use an FPGA for ADC memory handling
  • [13:03:21] <SpeedEvil> PRU seemed one possibility, as does clocked DMA. I wasn't able to find answers in the docs I looked at. I may need to re-read, but often this sort of question can provoke people who've seen a project that does this.
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  • [13:03:39] <KotH> SpeedEvil: a fast ADC can generate more than 500Msps @8bit, which is impossible to handle with a normal uP
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  • [13:04:02] <SpeedEvil> KotH: I understand, and agree in one sense. However, it would still be useful if the answer was '20MHz'
  • [13:04:19] <KotH> SpeedEvil: ie, store it in a massive parallel DRAM buffer using the FPGA, then clock it out slowly through the GPMC
  • [13:04:22] <SpeedEvil> I'm just trying to understand if it's 2, 40, or 100MHz
  • [13:04:47] <KotH> SpeedEvil: 100Msps@8bit should be possible if you are able to hanlde full cachelines
  • [13:04:49] <SpeedEvil> KotH: that is considerably harder, for a number of reasons, and involves quite a lot of extra hardware.
  • [13:05:07] <jonpry> i just glued something onto gpmc using a $1.20 fpga
  • [13:05:14] <SpeedEvil> I do agree FPGAs are cool.
  • [13:05:25] <KotH> SpeedEvil: above 200Msps you will have problems finding an ADC with parallel interface :)
  • [13:05:33] <jonpry> but it's only 8-bit @ 25mhz and read takes 3 cycles
  • [13:05:55] <KotH> SpeedEvil: have a look at the BCC cape
  • [13:06:02] <KotH> SpeedEvil: has a spartan6 on it
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  • [13:06:10] <KotH> SpeedEvil: should be more than enough logic to get you started
  • [13:06:30] <KotH> SpeedEvil: probably even enough on chip ram to store a full sample run from the ADC w/o additional dram
  • [13:06:32] <SpeedEvil> Cost is an issue.
  • [13:07:33] <jonpry> http://i.imgur.com/QFWt4hZ.jpg
  • [13:07:40] <KotH> a spartan6 is cheaper than the bbb :)
  • [13:08:05] <SpeedEvil> 500MSPS 8 bit ADC is 38 quid
  • [13:08:06] <KotH> SpeedEvil: what is your exact application and target audience?
  • [13:08:37] <SpeedEvil> KotH: I'm wondering about a cheap 'oscilloscope' with relatively poor triggering capability and a very deep memory.
  • [13:08:38] <KotH> SpeedEvil: there is a 200Msps 8bit from NXP that is very cheap
  • [13:08:45] <SpeedEvil> KotH: and yes.
  • [13:09:38] <KotH> SpeedEvil: yes what?
  • [13:09:48] <SpeedEvil> The PRUs were interesting in principle as they perhaps have enough smarts to do rudimentary triggering.
  • [13:09:58] <SpeedEvil> There are much cheaper ADCs if you go down in frequency
  • [13:10:48] <SpeedEvil> 4 dollars at 8 bit 80msps
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  • [13:13:16] <jonpry> i think the gpmc clock will just get a ton of jitter if you try to continuously read from it
  • [13:13:46] <jonpry> it's not free running. so whenever another AXI transaction is in progress the clock will end up stalling
  • [13:14:25] <KotH> SpeedEvil: you can use more than one ADC and do staggered sampling
  • [13:14:44] <KotH> SpeedEvil: especially the ADI parts have high analog bandwidths
  • [13:14:51] <SpeedEvil> jonpry: Hence why I was wondering initially about the PRUs
  • [13:15:07] <jonpry> they don't have exclusive access to AXI or anything
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  • [13:15:29] <KotH> SpeedEvil: uhmm... the jitter of the CPU clock is probably not good enough. i dont know how well it is specified
  • [13:16:07] <KotH> SpeedEvil: probably it would be a good idea to clock the ADCs from a seperated, but to the CPU clock locked VCO/VCXO
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  • [13:17:35] <SpeedEvil> The jitter of the internal PRU clock if it's clocked from a PLL should be quite adequte. I was assuming I could basically do a FIFO - one PRU reads - one writes to RAM using the 8K as a fifo buffer.
  • [13:17:54] <SpeedEvil> PLL or clock divisor
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  • [13:18:11] <SpeedEvil> I need to more fully read the PRU docs.
  • [13:18:29] <KotH> i wouldnt be so sure
  • [13:18:29] <KotH> a cpu clock can easily accomodate a multi-ps jitter
  • [13:18:34] <KotH> for an ADC running at >100Msps, 1ps is an extremely high jitter
  • [13:18:55] <KotH> you'll easily lose 1-5bit just by that
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  • [13:20:29] <SpeedEvil> I agree, in principle. In practice, there are ways to reduce that that are rather simple.
  • [13:21:16] <SpeedEvil> (as long as the jitter doesn't exceed a few tens of degrees, a simple PLL would work.
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  • [13:25:31] <KotH> that reduces your effective sampling rate
  • [13:25:48] <KotH> you can do all those tricks, no problem
  • [13:25:52] <KotH> but you will lose information
  • [13:25:55] <KotH> either bits or rate
  • [13:26:08] <KotH> TANSTAFL
  • [13:26:56] <Korra> how do I mount the sd card from debian?
  • [13:27:01] <Korra> booted from mmc
  • [13:27:30] <SpeedEvil> KotH: No, it doesn't.
  • [13:28:04] <KotH> SpeedEvil: how?
  • [13:28:15] <SpeedEvil> KotH: You have a clock with 10 degrees of jitter. You generate a smoothed clock with 0 jitter and offset it 10 degrees so that it never crosses the other clock and clock your ADC from that.
  • [13:28:19] <KotH> Korra: mount <device> <mountpoint>
  • [13:28:37] <KotH> SpeedEvil: eh..
  • [13:28:46] <KotH> SpeedEvil: that's what i meant by using an external clock
  • [13:29:31] <SpeedEvil> Sorry - I'm not properly awake today - I should probably leave it for another day - but...
  • [13:29:50] <Korra> and the sd card device name is?
  • [13:31:45] <KotH> Korra: your kernel tells you that
  • [13:32:04] <KotH> Korra: and no, i dont know it
  • [13:32:07] <Korra> ok and how do I query for that?
  • [13:32:11] <KotH> kernel log
  • [13:32:20] <KotH> dmesg or /var/log/kern.log
  • [13:32:27] <KotH> and get yourself a book on linux basics
  • [13:32:28] <KotH> you need it
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  • [13:34:17] <Korra> tbh what I need is a softfloat debian image and not to be spending a week jumping through fire hoops of low level linux stuff
  • [13:34:27] <Korra> but I take what I get
  • [13:35:06] <KotH> tbh if you expect to work with an embedded linux system, you will need quite some "low level linux stuff" knowledge
  • [13:35:17] <KotH> otherwise you will hit your head against a wall at every turn
  • [13:35:39] <KotH> even if you run "end user" distros like ubuntu
  • [13:35:50] <KotH> embedded is a complex beast, no matter how you try to hide it
  • [13:36:02] <KotH> if you dont know what you are doing, you will fail
  • [13:36:03] <Korra> I've been finding that out yeah
  • [13:36:48] <KotH> and yes, i blame all those OH and RPI advocates for telling people that everything is oh-so-simple and you can use it as a replacement for your PC and do a lot more with it!
  • [13:36:58] <TooLmaN> Rober Nelson's Ubu scripts are a nice fast start
  • [13:37:14] <Korra> its a big and sometimes not well mapped ecosystem, I haven't had to get on irc to ask questions in years but here I'm frequently getting problems that there's just no instant google answer for
  • [13:37:35] <Korra> it's a learning experience =)
  • [13:38:00] <TooLmaN> I'm still battling getting RS-485 working on BBB Ubuntu
  • [13:38:14] <KotH> Korra: well.. it is well mapped. but the amount of knowledge you need is vast
  • [13:38:23] <KotH> Korra: you cannot expect to learn it just in a couple of days
  • [13:38:26] <TooLmaN> The rs485 cape doesn't work for BBB, only the White
  • [13:38:47] <KotH> Korra: it starts from low level unix knowlege and goes to electronic interfaces and how to solder
  • [13:39:24] <Korra> well, I certainly know how to solder and I'm happy to learn
  • [13:39:41] <Korra> but yeah I kinda rode on the rpi wave
  • [13:40:06] <Korra> 'oh sweet a cheap embedded device to host mono for my <next facebook> project'
  • [13:40:51] <TooLmaN> 2 best uses for RPi for me has been the RPi-TC project and RASP-XBMC project
  • [13:41:13] <Korra> TooLmaN any idea if rs232 cape works?
  • [13:41:21] <TooLmaN> I'm running 2 web-based apps on large displays via RPi
  • [13:41:28] <TooLmaN> Korra: RS232 works fine
  • [13:41:33] <Korra> thank god
  • [13:41:48] <TooLmaN> The rs485 was build to use the same UART slots as the eMMC
  • [13:42:22] <Korra> would it be difficult to use a usb dongle for the same thing?
  • [13:42:27] <TooLmaN> I'm experimenting with the RS485 Click board from www.mikroe.com now. Just got it yesterday
  • [13:43:28] <TooLmaN> I haven't seen a RS485-USB dongle, but I imagine I'd run into the same issues with UARTS and control spaces. I want to keep the RS485 in the Serial Control Space
  • [13:43:54] <TooLmaN> We plan to use the ethernet system as well
  • [13:44:15] <TooLmaN> Basically for standard networking but other stuff on the horizon
  • [13:44:17] <Korra> a la http://www.tronisoft.com/prod.php?id=2459
  • [13:45:34] <TooLmaN> Korra: good find! I'll see if the driver is compatible. According to Torvalds himself, only a limited number of CPUs natively support RS485
  • [13:45:57] <Korra> let me know what you find please
  • [13:46:05] <Korra> this is of interest to me but also over my head atm
  • [13:46:15] <Korra> luckily I can use rs232 for now
  • [13:46:19] <TooLmaN> Will do. It was over my head until last week lol
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  • [13:56:01] <Korra> is the sd card gonna be in /dev/ for sure?
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  • [13:58:35] <Korra> Oct 25 18:09:11 arm kernel: [ 2.665020] mmc0: new high speed SDHC card at address aaaa
  • [13:58:37] <Korra> I don't even
  • [13:59:39] <KotH> that's probably the emmc, if you booted from that
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  • [14:00:34] <Korra> any idea what I'm looking for regarding the sd card then?
  • [14:00:36] <Korra> or what I google for
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  • [14:11:34] <Korra> /dev/mmcblk0p1 apparently
  • [14:11:49] <Korra> because 'mmc' is a totally legit identifier for the sd card I guess
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  • [14:14:20] <bradfa> Korra, yes, sd or mmc will show up as mmcblk devices
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  • [14:15:18] <Korra> yup worked that out from attempting to mount everything that looked relevant
  • [14:15:25] <Korra> was faster than thrawling the kernel log for I don't know what
  • [14:16:36] <Vaizki> lsblk is always nice
  • [14:16:53] <Korra> oh!
  • [14:16:55] <Korra> awesome
  • [14:17:03] <Korra> thanks
  • [14:17:10] <Vaizki> np .)
  • [14:17:27] <woglinde> Vaizki uh yes nice
  • [14:17:36] <Korra> ??mmcblk0p1 179:1 0 64M 0 part /mnt/sd1
  • [14:17:39] <Korra> strange naming there though
  • [14:18:01] <Vaizki> some idiot decided to use ascii art for a tree view
  • [14:18:12] <Vaizki> lsblk -i
  • [14:18:13] <Korra> ?, really?
  • [14:18:24] <Korra> ah
  • [14:18:26] <Korra> thanks again
  • [14:18:47] <Vaizki> np (message repeated 2 times)
  • [14:19:31] <Vaizki> I don't know what's wrong with tab indenting but that's linux development for you :)
  • [14:20:03] <Korra> It's.. better than the kernel log
  • [14:21:48] <Vaizki> there's also /proc/partitions if you don't happen to have lsblk
  • [14:22:32] <Vaizki> not to mention /sys/block tree :)
  • [14:23:13] <Korra> all good to know
  • [14:23:32] <Korra> the /sys/block is pretty similar to what I found in /dev/
  • [14:25:18] <TooLmaN> Hitting my mental wall this morning, must need more coffee. I ran "/bin/sh /boot/uboot/tools/ubuntu/small-lxde-desktop.sh" from "http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu" and I got a desktop but no mouse. How can I revert the BBB back to booting to a console instead of X? My ol'skool runlevel knowledge seems to be depreciated now. :(
  • [14:26:16] <TooLmaN> I want to have X installed but now my default RL on boot
  • [14:26:19] <rcn-ee> TooLmaN, hit "ctrl-alt-f1" then "ctrl-alt-f7" usually the mouse will re-appear..
  • [14:26:22] <TooLmaN> not*
  • [14:27:09] <TooLmaN> rnc-ee: Well hi Mr R! That did the trick, Thanks. Now how do I default the boot to RL3 again?
  • [14:27:33] <Vaizki> sudo service lightdm stop
  • [14:27:35] <Vaizki> I'd think
  • [14:27:41] <rcn-ee> it's an annoying xorg bug..
  • [14:27:57] <Vaizki> or have they changed to another one
  • [14:28:01] <rcn-ee> that script set's up slim as the boot manager, so you have to kill that..
  • [14:29:05] <TooLmaN> ok, never messed with slim. Where does it execute from? I see it checking places like /proc/cmdline but where is slim called on boot?
  • [14:29:34] <myself> I thought you weren't supposed to mess around with slim.
  • [14:29:52] <TooLmaN> ain't that the truth
  • [14:30:06] * TooLmaN give myself 2 points
  • [14:30:18] <TooLmaN> that sounded recursive in itself lol
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  • [14:47:39] <TooLmaN> okay, now I'm confused. I removed /etc/init.d/slim and ~/.xinitrc and it still boots in lxde. How do I boot to console without uninstalling lxde?
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  • [14:49:10] <jacekowski> remove slim/kdm/gdm from init
  • [14:49:14] <konrads> Hello! I am looking to build an embedded device which has two USB ports - one accepts usb mass storage and the other is exposed itself as a usb storage via linux usb gadget interface
  • [14:49:17] <jacekowski> not by deleting the files from init.d
  • [14:49:25] <jacekowski> but by using update-rc.d or something like that
  • [14:49:31] <konrads> my question - can the usb client interface on the BB black be used for htis?
  • [14:50:10] <TooLmaN> jaceowski: /etc/init has the slim.conf file
  • [14:50:17] <TooLmaN> do I remove that file?
  • [14:50:22] <jacekowski> no
  • [14:50:36] <jacekowski> do not delete anything in etc
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  • [14:50:50] <jacekowski> there are correct commands to modify startup
  • [14:50:56] <jacekowski> is that ubuntu?
  • [14:51:17] <TooLmaN> yes, ubuntu on BBB. I'm used to runlevel changes but slim boot manager is different to me
  • [14:51:59] <jacekowski> update-rc.d -f slim remove
  • [14:52:03] <jacekowski> or something like that
  • [14:52:17] <jacekowski> or update-rc.d -f remove slim
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  • [14:53:44] <TooLmaN> jaceowski: okay that removed the files, rebooting. The command was update-rc.d -f slim remove
  • [14:54:03] <TooLmaN> hmm, still booting into lxde
  • [14:55:43] <TooLmaN> there has to be a setting in the uboot process
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  • [14:56:01] <TooLmaN> I'm digging through the script that installed slim
  • [14:56:48] <Korra> @konrads the BBB does this out of the box
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  • [14:57:38] <Korra> the usb client port serves a mass storage device with drivers and instructions
  • [14:58:10] <rcn-ee> TooLmaN, ${HOME}/.xinitrc is setup to start it.. yet you removed it...
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  • [14:58:29] <konrads> Korra: using the linux gadget api?
  • [14:58:49] <Korra> I believe so but you best confirm with someone else, I'm new
  • [14:58:50] <TooLmaN> rcn-ee: I renamed it without the leading period
  • [14:59:10] <konrads> Korra: and that leaves the 2nd port open for accepting usb mass storage, right?
  • [14:59:23] <Korra> yup usb host can do whatever
  • [14:59:28] <konrads> cool
  • [14:59:43] <Korra> let me guess you want to do on the fly encryption?
  • [15:01:05] <konrads> Korra: something similar
  • [15:02:03] <Korra> not sure what kind of throughput you're gonna get, but good luck
  • [15:02:50] <konrads> Korra: that's OK :) it has to get there, fast is optional
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  • [15:06:03] <konrads> btw - whoevr runs circuitco - your site is down
  • [15:08:23] <Korra> negatory
  • [15:08:25] <Korra> up for me
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  • [15:18:10] <konrads> http://circuitco.com/support/index.php5?title=BeagleBone_Black_Accessories
  • [15:18:11] <konrads> try this
  • [15:18:35] <Korra> yep dead
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  • [15:19:26] <myself> previously reported: 11/13-17:19 < myself> I'm getting PHP errors trying to load http://circuitco.com/support/index.php5?title=BeagleBoneBlack
  • [15:19:30] <myself> still dead :/
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  • [15:22:48] <myself> anyone here coming to http://www.meetup.com/Southeast-Michigan-BeagleBone-Users-Group/events/142903392/ ?
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  • [15:42:35] <sono> anyone using recent buildroot with busybox? we are digging in right now. well, earlier. now i am going home...
  • [15:43:10] <sono> err. barebox.
  • [15:43:18] <sono> not busybox.
  • [15:43:29] <sono> u-boot works
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  • [17:17:35] <tfeldmann> Hi, how do I read the cpu temperature on a BBB?
  • [17:17:57] <tfeldmann> I already tried to find lm-sensors with opkg, but found nothing :(
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  • [17:18:34] <tfeldmann> any ideas?
  • [17:18:51] <ulalala> no
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  • [17:21:35] <racked> the other day whilst working in vi my keyboard miraculously switched into UK mode, i.e CTRL + 2 gave ", and @ worked as expected. But when I spluttered with shock, it reverted to the normal configuration. Can anyone explain this weird behavior. I had no mouse connected, and remained mid-file edit the whole time...
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  • [17:22:12] <racked> Would it be a fault in the keyboard?
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  • [17:24:23] <racked> Or is the beagleboard just another remote-controllable device with some sort of built-in radio?
  • [17:24:38] <racked> *beaglebone
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  • [17:34:27] <tfeldmann> Sorry to be annoying - but it's important for me: Can I read the cpu temperature on a BBB?
  • [17:34:40] <av500> I think you can
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  • [17:34:49] <av500> see the TRM it mentions something about a thermal diode
  • [17:34:51] <av500> I think
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  • [17:35:32] <tfeldmann> I've got a Ubuntu running on my second BBB - there it was a simple sudo apt-get install lm-sensors and it worked.
  • [17:35:48] <tfeldmann> There doesn't seem to be anything like this for angstrom?
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  • [17:37:05] <tfeldmann> Additionally "http://www.angstrom-distribution.org" is down.
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  • [17:41:17] <agmlego> Yes, it has been for quite some time.
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  • [17:41:44] <agmlego> lm-sensors should work just as well on angstrom as on Ubuntu, but you may have to compile it from source if there is not an opkg package for it.
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  • [17:42:41] <tfeldmann> how do I do that?
  • [17:43:00] <agmlego> Compile from source?
  • [17:43:21] <agmlego> Download the latest source from the project's repository, and follow their installation instructions.
  • [17:44:08] <tfeldmann> make failed... I think I need some more dependencies
  • [17:44:39] <agmlego> Look up through the output make printed to see what went wrong.
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  • [17:48:44] <tfeldmann> it says I need "* rrd header files (optional, for sensord)" - where can I find that on opkg?
  • [17:49:33] <agmlego> opkg search rrd
  • [17:49:51] <tfeldmann> nothing
  • [17:50:05] <agmlego> Also, that is an optional dependency. Sounds like you may have a different problem.
  • [17:50:24] <tfeldmann> running make:
  • [17:50:25] <tfeldmann> Makefile:175: lib/data.ld: No such file or directory Makefile:175: lib/general.ld: No such file or directory Makefile:175: lib/error.ld: No such file or directory Makefile:175: lib/access.ld: No such file or directory Makefile:175: lib/init.ld: No such file or directory Makefile:175: lib/sysfs.ld: No such file or directory Makefile:175: lib/conf-parse.ld: No such file or directory Makefile:175: lib/conf-lex.ld: No such file or dir
  • [17:50:27] <tfeldmann> ugh
  • [17:50:30] <tfeldmann> one moment
  • [17:50:37] <vvu|Log> pastebin :)
  • [17:50:37] <agmlego> ...yeah, put the output into pastebin please.
  • [17:50:39] <tfeldmann> http://pastebin.com/3wVLsuM7
  • [17:51:32] <agmlego> Interesting.
  • [17:51:54] <agmlego> It kind of looks like you did not download a full source package.
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  • [17:52:27] <tfeldmann> I used this one: http://dl.lm-sensors.org/lm-sensors/releases/lm_sensors-3.3.4.tar.bz2
  • [17:53:27] <agmlego> Yeah, that is not really a source package.
  • [17:54:13] <konradoo77> on debian you can read cpu temperature with cat /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon0/device/temp1_input
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  • [17:54:28] <konradoo77> maybe it similar with angrestom
  • [17:54:28] <agmlego> konradoo77: Please to be noting that tfeldmann is not on debian.
  • [17:54:53] <agmlego> tfeldmann: The output you pastebinned, that is from just running 'make all'?
  • [17:55:03] <tfeldmann> it's from running "make"
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  • [17:55:15] <agmlego> Did you read the INSTALL file?
  • [17:55:17] <tfeldmann> "make all" seems to be the same
  • [17:55:20] <tfeldmann> yep
  • [17:55:36] <agmlego> OK. Did you go out and get the dependencies they list?
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  • [17:56:09] <tfeldmann> installed bison and flex, the rest should be there. I will check
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  • [17:59:29] <tfeldmann> I've installed all dependencies, same error message
  • [17:59:46] <agmlego> Is there a hard requirement to use Angstrom for this application?
  • [17:59:56] <tfeldmann> yes, unfornutaley
  • [18:00:03] <tfeldmann> *unfortunately
  • [18:00:15] <agmlego> I am not seeing anyone having this type of error, but also no discussion about people successfully using lm-sensors on angstrom either.
  • [18:00:18] <agmlego> Why?
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  • [18:01:05] <tfeldmann> no idea...
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  • [18:01:27] <agmlego> YOu have no idea why you are required to use Angstrom for this?
  • [18:01:36] <agmlego> Sounds like a good reason right there to switch.
  • [18:01:38] <agmlego> ;-P
  • [18:01:54] <tfeldmann> :P
  • [18:02:04] <vmayoral> KotH: is it a good moment now to ask you the wicd eduroam configuration?
  • [18:02:26] <tfeldmann> how can I read this?
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  • [18:03:35] <agmlego> tfeldmann: How can you read what?
  • [18:03:50] <tfeldmann> sorry, gotta run, thank you for your help. I'll try again in a few days.
  • [18:03:52] <tfeldmann> wicd eduroam configuration
  • [18:04:01] <tfeldmann> but I think it wasn't meant for me
  • [18:04:04] <SpeedEvil> If both PRUs are used, is the ethernet not available? Or is the ethernet on this chip provided by another peripheral?
  • [18:04:05] <konradoo77> tfeldmann: what you get when ls /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon0/device/
  • [18:04:27] <tfeldmann> cannot access /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon0/device/: No such file or directory
  • [18:04:31] <agmlego> SpeedEvil: I believe the Ethernet PHY is a USB device internally.
  • [18:04:39] <SpeedEvil> Ah.
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  • [18:11:15] <|PiP|> is it possible to flash the beagleboard black without an SD card?
  • [18:11:38] <av500> no
  • [18:11:43] <av500> technically yes
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  • [18:12:12] <Russ> sd cape!
  • [18:12:18] <Russ> usb to sd
  • [18:12:19] <|PiP|> the sd card slot on my bbb is broken and i wanna flash it with another image
  • [18:12:21] <Russ> sd to micro sd
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  • [18:13:18] <av500> you can boot a ramdisk image from e-g- USB
  • [18:13:24] <av500> and use that to write emmc
  • [18:13:40] <myself> Russ: you seen this gizmotron? http://dx.com/p/sd-to-microsd-transflash-card-converter-module-27001
  • [18:14:14] <|PiP|> how can i boot a ramdisk image from usb?
  • [18:14:31] <myself> also such evil as http://www.hwtools.net/ExtenderBoard/KZ-B19.html
  • [18:15:06] <myself> and with more shiny.. http://www.hwtools.net/ExtenderBoard/KZ-B19%20V1.1.html
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  • [18:15:45] <av500> |PiP|: there is no tutorial
  • [18:16:06] <agmlego> How about exact steps then?
  • [18:16:21] <av500> myself: I bought such thing from dx two years ago
  • [18:16:29] <av500> ah it is dx :)
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  • [18:19:34] <myself> av500: yup, and i still haven't needed mine, but damn if it doesn't make people say "ooooh"
  • [18:22:53] <av500> +1
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  • [18:43:47] <ds2> now look what you done....
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  • [18:45:58] <Russ> myself, that's a pretty good one for a decent price
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  • [18:56:18] <KotH> vmayoral: yes it is a good moment
  • [18:56:22] <KotH> vmayoral: let me fire up my laptop
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  • [19:03:51] <KotH> vmayoral: http://pastebin.com/h2P6Azh3
  • [19:03:58] <KotH> vmayoral: that's what my wicd config tells me
  • [19:04:09] <woglinde> re
  • [19:04:12] <KotH> vmayoral: should be trivial to turn that into wpa_supplicant stuff
  • [19:04:14] <KotH> n'abend woglinde
  • [19:05:53] <woglinde> hm networkmanager is fine these days
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  • [19:07:07] <KotH> woglinde: unless you want to configure a fixed address. that still fails
  • [19:07:34] <woglinde> hm
  • [19:07:38] <TooLmaN> flashing the SD to eMMC. It's as simple as holding down the boot button until you see the user lights right?
  • [19:07:55] <woglinde> I thought there is something in the ipv4 menu
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  • [19:08:23] <woglinde> toolman with the right image yes
  • [19:08:32] <woglinde> and it acutally does not flash the sd
  • [19:08:41] <woglinde> it flashes an image which is on the sd
  • [19:09:04] <KotH> woglinde: yes, there is, but the last couple of times i tried that, it didnt work
  • [19:09:18] <woglinde> hm okay
  • [19:09:41] <TooLmaN> woglinde: This is RCN's ubuntu image. Says it should work.
  • [19:09:44] <KotH> woglinde: so the only way is to kill networkmanager (becaues it will reset the ip on the nic imediatly, otherwise) and use ifconfig/ip
  • [19:09:49] <woglinde> and yes nm is picky when you set an ip yourself and did not tell nm to ingore it
  • [19:09:56] <woglinde> koth no
  • [19:10:14] <woglinde> you can tell nm to leave the iface alone
  • [19:10:33] <woglinde> you can even tell nm to let alone all interfaces found in /etc/network/interfaces
  • [19:10:40] <KotH> no?
  • [19:10:40] <KotH> it did that
  • [19:10:40] <KotH> more than once
  • [19:10:40] <KotH> i didnt like it
  • [19:10:58] <woglinde> hm
  • [19:10:58] <KotH> so i stabbed it to death
  • [19:11:05] <woglinde> I am okay with nm these days
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  • [19:11:16] <KotH> yes, that's ok if you want to permanently ignore it. but not if it's just "for this session"
  • [19:11:36] * KotH still configures his network the manual way
  • [19:11:39] <woglinde> I mostyl use it for wireless
  • [19:11:44] * KotH is old school ;)
  • [19:11:48] <woglinde> sure
  • [19:11:52] <woglinde> I did before
  • [19:11:53] <KotH> for that i use wicd
  • [19:12:00] <KotH> that doesnt get in my way :)
  • [19:12:08] <woglinde> wicd has no part for umts
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  • [19:12:14] <KotH> heh
  • [19:12:29] <KotH> i dont have a umts card in my laptop
  • [19:12:46] <woglinde> and using modemmanager has the advantage not to store the pin on the disk
  • [19:12:50] <KotH> eduroam gives me enough places where i get free wifi :)
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  • [19:32:34] <ragnar76> is there a way to disable the sound over hdmi on the bbb?
  • [19:33:09] <vmayoral> KotH: thank you!! :)
  • [19:33:25] <KotH> np
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  • [19:35:29] <`Ishq> Would using a barrel adapter more than 5V be harmful?
  • [19:35:36] <`Ishq> A 12 volt barrel adapter for instance
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  • [19:44:28] <KotH> `Ishq: you mean beside killing your bbb? i dont think so. maybe the fumes coming out of the capacitors may cause cancer. some of the components could get hot, but probably not cause a fire. ... beside that i dont think anything harmefull can happen
  • [19:44:33] <bongo_> Can i connect beagleboeard-xm and matlab with this rs232 cable together ? http://www.alza.sk/axago-ads-50-d246597.htm
  • [19:45:12] <mrpackethead> KotH: really? wow.
  • [19:45:28] <`Ishq> gotcha
  • [19:45:34] <KotH> bongo_: *sigh*
  • [19:45:45] <KotH> bongo_: as i told you yesterday. it's not a hardware problem. it's a problem of how you write your software to connect to the bbb
  • [19:45:48] <mrpackethead> KotH: if i power my BBB from 12V ( thats 7V better than 5V ) can i install windows XP on it?
  • [19:45:51] <KotH> bongo_: er.. sorr bbxm
  • [19:46:08] <KotH> mrpackethead: nah.. windows xp needs at least 24V
  • [19:46:23] <mrpackethead> KotH: oh. I need to get a voltage doubler then.
  • [19:46:32] <mrpackethead> cause i only go 12V
  • [19:46:43] <KotH> mrpackethead: windows 7 is 30V and macos 33V
  • [19:46:45] <mrpackethead> maybe i can install MS-DOS.
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  • [19:47:03] <mrpackethead> but Angstrum is only 5V?
  • [19:47:05] <woglinde> source code for apple dos is now free
  • [19:47:12] <woglinde> port it to bb
  • [19:47:36] <mrpackethead> if i put the BBB on a variable powersupply, and change the voltage, will the OS change by itself?
  • [19:47:41] <mrpackethead> that would be clever.
  • [19:48:22] <KotH> i think that's possible, but not implemented yet
  • [19:48:53] <bongo_> i wrote xfce to my BB ,but the next step ist choose serial connection between BB and my PC ...and i need to know if it can be with this cable
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  • [19:52:04] <bongo_> In help its written , Two types of cables are available for this purpose: DB9 null modem M/F cable USB to DB9 male adapter cable
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  • [19:52:41] <bongo_> and i need to know if this http://www.alza.sk/axago-ads-50-d246597.htm is the right cable
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  • [19:54:28] <bongo_> what do you think KotH?
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  • [19:55:56] <KotH> bongo_: the same as yesterday: understand what you are doing and why. learn what the basic components of your system are and how they work together
  • [19:56:49] <gui_> hello folks
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  • [20:09:16] <gui_> I am trying to compile ubuntu with a custom virtual cape, but the dts file is not being compiled correctly
  • [20:09:45] <gui_> when I rebuild the kernel I get the following message: make[1]: *** No rule to make target `firmware/BB-eQEP1-00A0.dtbo', needed by `firmware/BB-eQEP1-00A0.dtbo.gen.o'. Stop.
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  • [20:12:06] <gui_> oops, looks like I got the filenames wrong
  • [20:12:55] <gui_> can't believe I lost 30 minuts just because of that ????
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  • [20:45:37] <gui_> is there any good soul that could pastebin the original uEnv.txt from Angstrom and send me?
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  • [20:58:26] <Biodragon> on BBB?
  • [21:01:26] <Biodragon> optargs=quiet drm.debug=7
  • [21:01:31] <Biodragon> is what is in mine
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  • [21:09:29] <narcos> Hi all. Has anyone had success getting Kali running on the BBB ?
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  • [21:09:40] <narcos> I just get four status lights on solid
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  • [21:13:29] <JetForMe> THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!
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  • [21:16:28] <narcos> Hm, maybe let's take a step back. Trying to get Ubuntu 12.04 LT from http://www.armhf.com/index.php/boards/beaglebone-black/#saucy running
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  • [21:17:12] <narcos> When booting off that the FOUR lights flash in a seemingly normal way - but no USB device is detected on my laptop via dmesg (unlike when I boot off internal eMMC)
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  • [21:20:38] <gui_> Biodragon, afaik the original uEnv.txt has many lines (lots of comments though)
  • [21:20:46] <gui_> but I'll try that
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  • [21:23:30] <Biodragon> I got cheated then!
  • [21:24:33] <thurgood> there's a lot of built in environment stuff
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  • [21:29:22] <gui_> Biodragon, I got a uenvcmd was not defined in uEnv.txt ... halting ...
  • [21:32:20] <gui_> got it (i think)
  • [21:32:23] <gui_> had to add uenvcmd= run loaduimage; run mmcboot
  • [21:32:58] <Biodragon> weird
  • [21:33:32] <gui_> but now system is mounted as read-only
  • [21:33:35] <gui_> FFUUUUUUU
  • [21:34:18] <gui_> actually, i've just realized this uSD has an ubuntu image, not angstrom
  • [21:34:32] <Vaizki> ...
  • [21:34:36] <Biodragon> hehe
  • [21:35:03] <gui_> still, read-only :(
  • [21:35:10] <Biodragon> i can boot up my ubuntu one and see whats on there
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  • [21:40:16] <Biodragon> gui_: http://pastebin.com/3YTUy775
  • [21:40:42] <gui_> exactly!
  • [21:40:45] <gui_> thanks a million!
  • [21:41:46] <Biodragon> Ubuntu 13.04
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  • [21:52:43] <gui_> Biodragon, that file makes my BBB get stuck at Starting Kernel...
  • [21:53:23] <gui_> i should probably reflash the image... might be faster that trying to fix it
  • [21:53:42] <Biodragon> :(
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  • [21:57:56] <gui_> actually, i noticed some linebreaks that shouldn't be there, lemme try again
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  • [22:03:02] <gui_> no success... reflashin :/
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  • [22:37:03] <nickm_> how do i disable the sleep timer on my beagle bone black?
  • [22:37:35] <nomel> sleep timer?
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  • [22:39:18] <narcos> Hmm, should my BBB output HDMI by default? I'm getting no signal on my monitor
  • [22:39:30] <narcos> but I can connect to it via the USB cable
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  • [22:40:39] <nickm_> yeah the screen goes to sleep after 10 minutes
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  • [22:49:44] <nickm_>
  • [22:49:44] <nickm_>
  • [22:49:53] <nickm_> does anyone have advice on reducing startup time?
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  • [22:50:29] <bahar> arr arr arr arrrr more power
  • [22:51:26] <narcos> nickm_: But I just booted the device
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  • [22:52:13] <sheldonw> anyone ever worked with the cape-bone-adafruit-lcd-00A0 with small TFT displays??
  • [22:53:56] <georgem> holy crap, its mranostay
  • [22:54:24] <narcos> Hurrm, if I'm booting off a Ubuntu microSD, should I see a device appear in my dmesg ?
  • [22:54:27] <narcos> 'cos I don't
  • [22:56:02] <mranostay> georgem: just on a recon mission :)
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  • [22:56:56] <narcos> I notice mt BBB has "A5C" on the side - is that the latest release...?
  • [22:57:58] <narcos> Hm, I see on http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone there's A6
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  • [23:01:15] <gui_> help! my ubuntu 3.8.13-bone29 apparently does not have /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots
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  • [23:01:27] <gui_> when I cat it i get /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots: No such file or directory
  • [23:01:27] <nomel> mkdir?
  • [23:01:31] <nomel> jk.
  • [23:01:39] <gui_> badadum ts
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  • [23:02:07] <gui_> and it does not recognize the eMMC
  • [23:03:03] <nomel> 3.8.13 seems pretty new. you sure it's considered anywhere near stable or functional?
  • [23:03:12] <gui_> idk
  • [23:03:19] <mag> nomel: is CONFIG_CAPE_BEAGLEBONE set? (although I'm not familiar at all with ubuntu's BB support so I don't know for sure if it uses that config variable)
  • [23:03:32] <gui_> about 5 months ago I was using 3.8.13-bone 23 and it was perfect for me
  • [23:03:36] <nomel> mag, I don't know. i'm not gui_
  • [23:03:44] <thurgood> afaik 3.12 is mainline, isn't it?
  • [23:03:54] <nomel> hey gui_, mag wants to know if CONFIG_CAPE_BEAGLEBONE is set.
  • [23:04:06] <gui_> mag, where do I find that?
  • [23:04:21] <mag> nomel: 'grep CONFIG_CAPE_BEAGLEBONE .config' in the top-level dir of the kernel you're using
  • [23:04:37] <gui_> kernel source?
  • [23:04:41] <mag> yes
  • [23:04:44] <nomel> gui_: he says to...oh, you can see it
  • [23:04:46] <gui_> hold on
  • [23:04:53] <mag> sorry, s/nomel/gui_/
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  • [23:05:16] <gui_> CONFIG_CAPE_BEAGLEBONE=y CONFIG_CAPE_BEAGLEBONE_GEIGER=y CONFIG_CAPE_BEAGLEBONE_NIXIE=y
  • [23:05:29] <mag> oh...well, so much for that theory
  • [23:05:32] <mag> :)
  • [23:05:37] <mag> sorry, can't help
  • [23:05:39] <gui_> any other hint?
  • [23:05:58] <gui_> I added a custom cape
  • [23:06:00] <mag> no. i've never used ubuntu's kernel/rootfs/etc
  • [23:06:09] <gui_> https://github.com/Teknoman117/beaglebot
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  • [23:06:39] <sheldonw> Trying a:
  • [23:06:40] <sheldonw> echo cape-bone-adafruit-lcd-00A0 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots - gives me no such file or directory, any ideas?
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  • [23:07:24] <gui_> sheldonw, did you compile the .dts file?
  • [23:07:51] <sheldonw> well, there is already a .dtbo file in my /lib/firmware
  • [23:08:06] <gui_> ok, what's its fullname?
  • [23:08:11] <gui_> full filename
  • [23:08:38] <sheldonw> /lib/firmware/cape-bone-adafruit-lcd-00A0.dtbo
  • [23:08:39] <mag> if there's a dir that isn't appearing as you expect, its likely something to do with a config option or something broken in the driver WRT sysfs
  • [23:08:43] <gui_> try: echo cape-bone-adafruit-lcd > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
  • [23:08:58] <narcos> bbl
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  • [23:09:24] <sheldonw> gui_, same thing no such file or directory
  • [23:09:34] <mag> hrm, somehow half of what I wrote disappeared
  • [23:10:06] <gui_> try cat /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
  • [23:10:08] <mag> I was talking about /sys above--files under /sys are sysfs related and appear automgically
  • [23:10:23] <sheldonw> gui_, yeah I can do that fine.
  • [23:10:27] <mag> so if they aren't there, its likely something to do with a config option or something brokey WRT sysfs in your driver
  • [23:10:34] <mag> oh
  • [23:10:35] <gui_> do you have the original .dts file?
  • [23:10:43] <sheldonw> I can get one yeah
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  • [23:10:56] <mag> yeah, or dts :)
  • [23:10:57] <gui_> get it and copy its part_number
  • [23:11:09] <gui_> the try echo part_number > ...
  • [23:11:12] <gui_> then*
  • [23:12:16] <sheldonw> gui_, that gives me a write error file exists.
  • [23:12:56] <gui_> what exactly did you type?
  • [23:13:23] <sheldonw> echo BB-BONE-TFT-01 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
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  • [23:13:57] <gui_> when you cat /sys/... do you see BB-BONE-TFT-01 in any line?
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  • [23:14:08] <gui_> if yes does is have an L on the left column?
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  • [23:14:31] <sheldonw> no I don't, but I believe this is my device: 7: ff:P-O-L Override Board Name,00A0,Override Manuf,BB-W1
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  • [23:15:12] <gui_> well, it could be, and the L on P-O-L means it is already loaded
  • [23:15:46] <gui_> then it should be available for use already
  • [23:15:51] <gui_> no need to echo it again
  • [23:16:39] <sid> Can someone please point out a tutorial for updating the image of a beagleboard C2?
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  • [23:17:37] <sheldonw> ok... I think I just realized what's happening. dmesg is complaining of a pin conflict with another device.
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  • [23:18:00] <sheldonw> gui_, thanks for the help tho, I'll move my temp sensor to another pin setup.
  • [23:18:02] <gui_> try disabling other capes
  • [23:18:17] <gui_> well, if you know what it is, thats better
  • [23:18:19] <sheldonw> oh, I can do that without re-wiring the other device first?
  • [23:19:05] <gui_> if you know which pin is causing the problem, and its being used for something else..
  • [23:19:42] <gui_> you should change it :P
  • [23:19:51] <gui_> gotta go home grab some dinner
  • [23:19:58] <sheldonw> coolio's thank bro
  • [23:20:02] <sheldonw> (s)
  • [23:20:08] <gui_> have a good night
  • [23:20:14] <sheldonw> you as well
  • [23:20:16] <gui_> or whatever time period you're currently at
  • [23:20:29] <sheldonw> an hour off from 4:20
  • [23:20:30] <sheldonw> heh
  • [23:20:35] <gui_> am?
  • [23:20:38] <sheldonw> pm
  • [23:20:44] <gui_> too early
  • [23:20:48] <gui_> 21h20 here
  • [23:20:54] <gui_> no food since 12h
  • [23:21:00] <gui_> gotta go
  • [23:21:01] <gui_> bye!
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  • [23:21:03] <sheldonw> peace
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  • [23:45:08] <nomel> i'm powering my beaglebone from vdd_5v. if i leave the power on after a "poweroff", the power button wont turn the beaglebone back on.
  • [23:45:09] <nomel> wazup?
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  • [23:52:06] <rcn-ee> did you try again after 5-6 seconds?
  • [23:54:50] <sheldonw> is there a way to get directfb to work on a 128x160 tft display? when I run any test apps I get FBDev/Mode: No mode found for 128x160