[00:00:04] <Quinto> ZiNC: ok bye
[00:00:17] <ZiNC> I'm not very familiar with what's going on...
[00:00:27] <ZiNC> So, for now, ciao.
[00:00:32] <Quinto> ciao
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[00:23:20] <BeagleGithub> [kernel] RobertCNelson pushed 1 new commit to 3.13: http://git.io/0QUemA
[00:23:20] <BeagleGithub> kernel/3.13 8bb2662 Robert Nelson: correct recipes/linux-mainline_3.X.bb name...
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[00:39:09] <ando352> can you connect to cloud9 IDE on beagle using ethernet cable connection rather than ethernet over usb?
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[00:44:39] <eggzeck-laptop> ando352: Yes
[00:45:33] <eggzeck-laptop> ando352: Once you power on the beagle with a barrel connector and an ethernet cable connected it'll give your board an IP address.
[00:45:56] <eggzeck-laptop> ando352: However, you'll need to find the IP of the board, log-into your DHCP server and find the device
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[00:46:29] <eggzeck-laptop> ando352: Once you find it, you can use (for example) 10.0.1.*:3000 and that will take you to the IDE
[00:46:48] <eggzeck-laptop> ando352: (where * is replacd by whatever number your IP is given)
[00:47:20] <ragnar76> s5fs: if you are still awake. yes i have
[00:47:35] <eggzeck-laptop> ando352: I then recommend (if you'll be working mostly from your home location) setting a static IP on the beagle, this way you'll always know the IP.
[00:47:46] <eggzeck-laptop> ando352: But that may be a problem if you're travelling with it
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[00:52:26] <ragnar76> naptime
[00:52:28] <ragnar76> gn8
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[01:47:28] <s5fs> ragnar76: hi
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[01:47:55] <s5fs> ragnar76: best of luck, take care
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[03:06:46] <moog> hello? anybody out there
[03:06:47] <moog> ?
[03:07:04] <emeb_mac> nah - no one here at all
[03:07:39] <moog> hah sweet
[03:09:20] <moog> i have a question, feel free to say its stupid....does anyone use the python module through adafruit (import Adafruit_BBIO.SPI) to control SPI functions instead of using DT overlays directly?
[03:09:50] <moog> or have experience because I have not been able to get it working..
[03:10:25] <moog> and as far as I can tell, there is no documentation or examples of anyone using it
[03:11:29] <emeb_mac> if you don't use the DT overlay then the SPI module won't be loaded into the kernel and no amount of python will get it going.
[03:12:26] <moog> so there is no avoiding it then? i had hoped that the python module somehow did the overlay for you
[03:13:21] <moog> for example, I need not do any DT overlays for using I2C in python right out of the gate
[03:13:36] <moog> using Adafruit_BBIO.I2C
[03:13:55] <emeb_mac> because the I2C kernel module is loaded at boot time in order to access the cape bus.
[03:14:01] <emeb_mac> but spi is not
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[03:14:32] <moog> gotcha, thanks a lot emeb_mac!!!!
[03:14:37] <emeb_mac> sure
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[03:56:50] <rustygee> Hello
[03:57:25] <rustygee> I just want to know how I can use a beagle board to use 3g in telemetry for my ardupilot
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[05:18:16] <_av500_> its a small linux system
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[05:20:33] <beagle13> Hi.. Im doing a kernel installation for Ubuntu in BB.. Can I follow the steps in below link for that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild
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[05:39:17] <assa> when i am loading device tree overlay,it is giving error message in dmesg as "of_get_named_gpio_flags: can't parse gpios property''
[05:39:56] <assa> do anybody know what may be the problem?
[05:40:27] <Biodragon> beagle13: http://derekmolloy.ie/beaglebone/beaglebone-adding-usb-wi-fi-building-a-linux-kernel/
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[05:42:07] <Biodragon> is what I used
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[06:01:50] <beagle13> Biodragon: Are you pointing to that video
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[06:03:19] <Biodragon> beagle13: yeah, that's what I used to compile a custom kernel, not sure if it works from the general source..
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[06:09:07] <Biodragon> beagle13: I assume the robert C nelson git has special patches to the beaglebone, but not sure
[06:10:50] <dm8tbr> I'd recommend to stick to https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/tree/3.8
[06:12:59] <beagle13> I was give a suggestion of "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel" 2 days back from BeagleBoard.org.. I did that since my /usr/src is empty.. but when i did that a error : error: index-pack died of signal 9447381), 802.20 MiB | 88 KiB/s fatal: index-pack failed came.. so how can I proceed further..
[06:13:28] <dm8tbr> let me ask the other way around, why do you think you need to rebuild the kernel?
[06:14:18] <beagle13> That is because my /usr/src is empty.. so was doubtful abt the current runing Kernel..
[06:14:50] <dm8tbr> you don't need the kernel source in /usr/src to run a kernel.
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[06:18:58] <beagle13> My intension was to insert a module.. so when i was trying to compile the module..my Makefile content " make -C /lib/modules/$(shell uname -r)/build M=$(PWD) modules".. but there was no "build"????in my "3.8.13-bone20" .. So had to link the "build" to "/usr/lib" where i can see my headerfiles..but even after doing that.. I was unable to compile..
[06:20:05] <beagle13> I linked build to usr/lib, since my /usr/src is empty.
[06:39:10] <dm8tbr> then all you actually need should be to install the sources for _that_ particular kernel
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[07:33:27] <BeagleMon> Hello, i need help in reading my sensor in every 5 ns interval but cloud 9 IDE only support at most 5 ms using chrome, anyone can provide assistance in my case? much appreciated.
[07:33:45] <_av500_> 5ns?
[07:33:51] <BeagleMon> yes
[07:33:59] <_av500_> on the PRU
[07:34:12] <BeagleMon> may i know how to set that?
[07:34:21] <_av500_> "set" is the wrong word
[07:34:28] <BeagleMon> oh, sorry
[07:34:28] <dlg> you might need to get the pru to populate a ring which cloud9 can poll a batch of data from
[07:34:31] <_av500_> google for am335x PRU
[07:34:39] <_av500_> its complex
[07:34:52] <dlg> what are you looking at every 5ns?
[07:34:55] <BeagleMon> can it be done using PUTTY?
[07:35:09] <BeagleMon> for PUTTY minimum is 1 micros
[07:35:16] <BeagleMon> for the one i have tried
[07:35:33] <BeagleMon> <dlg> sensor signal
[07:35:46] <_av500_> putty is a terminal emulator
[07:36:18] <BeagleMon> <dlg> i would like to write to text file the input from sensor signal for every 5 ns
[07:36:34] <BeagleMon> hmm
[07:36:40] <BeagleMon> is teh PRU permanent?
[07:36:52] <_av500_> every 5ns is 200mhz
[07:37:08] <_av500_> you cannot make a sensor reading at 200mhz on the BBB
[07:37:08] <BeagleMon> i am worried if i cause the hardware malfunction
[07:37:15] <_av500_> not even with the PRU
[07:37:22] <BeagleMon> <@_av_500> oh
[07:37:25] <_av500_> what sensor is that?
[07:38:02] <_av500_> so I doubt you really want 5ns
[07:38:26] <BeagleMon> <@_av_500> sorry i think my calculation is wrong, should be 1 ns
[07:38:36] <_av500_> not much better
[07:38:41] <BeagleMon> since sampling frequency must be 4 times larger
[07:38:46] <_av500_> so you need 1GHz
[07:38:50] <BeagleMon> close to
[07:38:51] <_av500_> forget it
[07:38:55] <BeagleMon> oh
[07:38:58] <_av500_> what are you measuring?
[07:39:09] <BeagleMon> i thought BBB can support 1 GHz
[07:39:17] <_av500_> the cpu runs at 1ghz max
[07:39:29] <_av500_> that does not mean you can read a measurement every 1ns
[07:39:32] <_av500_> what are you measuring?
[07:39:33] <BeagleMon> high frequency acoustic signal
[07:39:39] <_av500_> at 1ghz?
[07:39:46] <_av500_> in what material is that?
[07:39:47] <BeagleMon> 200 MHz
[07:39:54] <BeagleMon> piezoelectric
[07:40:13] <_av500_> sorry
[07:40:22] <_av500_> you need somekind of fpga frontend orsp
[07:40:24] <_av500_> or so
[07:40:30] <BeagleMon> so its just a fairy tale?
[07:40:32] <LetoThe2nd> BeagleMon: long discussion short: you cannot measure that fast on a BBB.
[07:40:34] <BeagleMon> for BBB?
[07:40:39] <_av500_> for anything
[07:40:49] <BeagleMon> ok, so can i know the limit of BBB measurement?
[07:40:56] <_av500_> much less
[07:41:05] <BeagleMon> hmm
[07:41:27] <_av500_> there'S a reason there is high speed data aquisition equipment
[07:41:51] <BeagleMon> is it possible to record it with some kind of interface like LabView then interfacing it to BBB?
[07:41:53] <LetoThe2nd> ... and that it costs more than 45$
[07:42:09] <LetoThe2nd> BeagleMon: no.
[07:42:28] <LetoThe2nd> BeagleMon: with a 1Ghz processor, it just is not possible to process a value every 1ns.
[07:42:30] <BeagleMon> Yes, thats what i saw the advertisement of BBB, high frequency data aqusition....
[07:42:53] <LetoThe2nd> BeagleMon: please show that advertisement.
[07:44:06] <BeagleMon> <LetThe2nd> sorry thats the project done by people
[07:44:22] <BeagleMon> <LetThe2nd> http://www.element14.com/community/community/knode/single-board_computers/next-gen_beaglebone/blog/2013/08/04/bbb--high-speed-data-acquisition-and-web-based-ui
[07:45:07] <LetoThe2nd> BeagleMon: so basically you have no idea what you are talking about, and now we have to explain you the basics. did i get that right?
[07:45:19] <LetoThe2nd> even in the first line it says "1MHz"
[07:45:26] <LetoThe2nd> not "100MHz"
[07:45:49] <BeagleMon> <LetoThe2nd> if you see down there they mention 200 MHz
[07:46:30] <LetoThe2nd> BeagleMon: i know. now please read the sentence surrounding the 200Mhz, not just the number, please.
[07:46:35] <BeagleMon> <LetoThe2nd> Yes you are right, i am new. But i want to know whetehr it is possibl eto do it without any interface
[07:47:32] <LetoThe2nd> BeagleMon: they say that the input processor RUNS AT 200Mhz. they never say that they SAMPLE 200Mhz
[07:47:49] <dm8tbr> "and I did experience lost samples with the 32MHz oscillator"
[07:48:06] <LetoThe2nd> dm8tbr: reading is indeed a lost art nowadays.
[07:48:12] <dm8tbr> "I plan on trying frequencies in the range 14MHz-20MHz to find the upper limit for missing no samples; for further study! "
[07:48:24] <BeagleMon> <LetoThe2nd> oh, ok
[07:48:42] <BeagleMon> <LetoThe2nd> thanks for the enlightenment
[07:48:53] <LetoThe2nd> BeagleMon: so before citing something, and calling it advertising, it usually is wise to actually *READ* it. don't you think so?
[07:49:20] <BeagleMon> <LetoThe2nd> sorry, i know, i mistaken that
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[07:56:46] <JetForMe> How do I go about reporting that the sbcl package doesn't seem to exist for Ubuntu 13.04 on BBB?
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[08:29:58] <BeagleMon> Hello, just wanted to double confirmed, there is no way to output and take reading for signal more than 50 MHZ via BBB?
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[08:33:59] <LetoThe2nd> BeagleMon: i will happily repeat it even three times, yo you have it triple confirmed:
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[08:34:21] <LetoThe2nd> BeagleMon: you are not able to read/process/write a 50MHz signal on the BBB
[08:34:22] <LetoThe2nd> BeagleMon: you are not able to read/process/write a 50MHz signal on the BBB
[08:34:23] <LetoThe2nd> BeagleMon: you are not able to read/process/write a 50MHz signal on the BBB
[08:35:06] <BeagleMon> <LetoThe2nd> thanks
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[08:42:29] <Russ> well, it really depends on how hard you are willing to work and what you mean by process
[08:43:05] <Russ> You have two prus, they could alternate sampling the signal, giving a rate of 25MHz, or 8 pru clock cycles
[08:44:48] <Russ> and the other option is gpmc, but again, it depends on what you mean by process
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[08:49:30] <LetoThe2nd> Russ: yeah, I intently didn't meantion the trivial case of like, copy gpio reg a to gpio reg b and repeat
[08:49:44] <LetoThe2nd> mostly to not confuse the asker.
[08:49:56] <Russ> pretty sure you'd be out of luck using gpios
[08:50:10] <Russ> unless maybe you are only interested in timing between signals or something like that
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[08:51:13] <LetoThe2nd> but thats about the only case i could imagine to shift that data frequency through the BBB - have a pru run a tight loop of 2 or 3 instructions, plus one jump back.
[08:51:44] <LetoThe2nd> and how much can you do in 3 pru cycles? not much besides copying one value from a to b.
[08:52:22] <asdf__> is there any problem in changing the mode of sys_boot pins(P8.31,32) in BBB?
[08:52:40] <Russ> get the data into a page of sram, switch to the other page, interrupt the cpu, etc
[08:53:29] <LetoThe2nd> Russ: in 3 cycles?
[08:54:13] <Russ> split the work between two prus
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[08:55:26] <LetoThe2nd> hm. would at least be an interesting proof of concept starting them exactly 4 cycles apart.
[08:56:02] <Russ> if they are just moving data, edma+gpmc might be a better bet
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[08:56:08] <Russ> that's pretty uncharted waters though
[08:56:27] <LetoThe2nd> exactly why i didn't mention it.
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[08:58:05] <Quinto> there is a solution for USB hotplug issue on Beagle?
[08:58:41] <Quinto> or is impossible resolve this?
[08:58:57] <Quinto> Is a software o hardware problem?
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[09:04:45] <anil> hi
[09:04:59] <anil> hello all
[09:05:08] <anil> i am using beaglebone black
[09:05:52] <anil> can anyone tell me how to identify the serial pins i mean the numbering is there any hardware document describing that
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[09:07:14] <fra> hello all
[09:07:24] <keesj> anil: you need to loot ad the board layout (and perhaps schematics).
[09:07:53] <keesj> usually there is also a square pin or a dot on the board to help identify pin number 1
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[09:08:31] <keesj> that that + schematics will give you what you want.
[09:09:04] <keesj> but note that if you want to attach a serial you need to attach your rx to they tx of the bone
[09:09:30] <fra> My BBB has dhcp enabled, but it takes ip address outside my classroom, my class 192.168.0.xx, instead BBB 169.254.191.253
[09:09:47] <fra> WHY_
[09:10:51] <BeagleMon> anil: http://letsmakerobots.com/files/userpics/u19048/B_3PinOut3.png
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[09:11:19] <keesj> it probably doesn't take but get that address. perhaps because the dhcp server is configured to keep unknown mac addresses out of certain networks?
[09:11:37] <keesj> perhaps somebody is running an alternative dhcp server?
[09:12:14] <keesj> and perhaps you are looking at the ip address given out on the usb cable
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[09:13:08] <BeagleMon> anil: i think the p8 and p9 is switched over for the pic
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[09:14:07] <keesj> BeagleMon: yes looks wrong
[09:15:21] <beagle13> LetoThe2nd: As per the suggestion i tried to install Kernel from "git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-precise.git" but I received error : " error: index-pack died of signal 9447381), 802.20 MiB | 88 KiB/s fatal: index-pack failed "... can you pls help with a way.
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[09:15:52] <fra> keesj:Friday, everything was ok, now I do not understand. The LAN to which 'connected the same ...
[09:16:10] <LetoThe2nd> beagle13: no, i don't do git support.
[09:16:32] <beagle13> oh thank you..
[09:17:06] <LetoThe2nd> beagle13: because this has nothing to do with the kernel, the beagle, or compiling.
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[09:18:28] <fra> keesj: my server DHCP, it work correctly
[09:19:48] <beagle13> can I ask something about arm compilers
[09:21:08] <fra> keesj: how to disable the DHCP in BBB?
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[09:23:53] <Quinto> there is a solution for USB hotplug issue on Beagle? is impossible resolve it?
[09:24:07] <av500> latest SW?
[09:25:29] <keesj> BeagleMon: it looks like only the labels where switched e.g. I looked in the SRM and pin21 of P8 *is* the mmc1_clk
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[09:26:26] <keesj> so on the drawning mmc1_clk is drawn at the correct place but the label on top should read P8 and not P9
[09:28:08] <keesj> that's also discussed here http://letsmakerobots.com/node/37063
[09:29:46] <Quinto> av500: i have already kernel 3.8.13bone 28
[09:29:51] <Quinto> but hotplug dont work
[09:31:38] <Quinto> there is a solution also not official?
[09:31:47] <beagle13> Quinto: how did u get kernel 3.8.13bone 28
[09:32:03] <Quinto> what?
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[09:32:27] <Quinto> i have this: Linux beaglebone 3.8.13 #1 SMP Thu Sep 5 20:26:50 CEST 2013 armv7l GNU/Linux
[09:33:14] <Quinto> i think that is the last kernel!
[09:33:32] <Quinto> available, but hotplug issue remain
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[09:35:16] <beagle13> Quinto: yours is angstrom !!
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[09:40:44] <Quinto> beagle13: yes and...
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[09:47:52] <Quinto> beagle13: there is a solution for this?
[09:47:53] <Quinto> or no?
[09:48:02] <Quinto> in google i dont find nothing for solve
[09:48:50] <dm8tbr> Quinto: you have been told to follow that thread on google groups patiently. there is no reason to ask again and again here.
[09:49:14] <Quinto> but on google groups there isnt a solution! :(
[09:49:42] <Quinto> i want know only if is an hardware issue or software
[09:49:43] <dm8tbr> that is correct, and here isn't one either!
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[09:54:29] <Quinto> dm8tbr: but is possible correct it in new kernel or no?
[09:54:38] <Quinto> if no i change board
[09:54:46] <Quinto> because i must buy 200 board
[09:54:57] <Quinto> and if hotplug unsopported i change board
[09:55:06] <LetoThe2nd> Quinto: change the board.
[09:55:12] <Quinto> i dont want pay 8000$
[09:55:17] <Quinto> LetoThe2nd: why?
[09:55:22] <Quinto> you are sure?
[09:55:40] <LetoThe2nd> Quinto: we are not a paid support. if nobody answers, nobody knows. so nobody can tell you. asking more often will not change that.
[09:55:52] <Quinto> LetoThe2nd: ok
[09:56:13] <LetoThe2nd> Quinto: so because nobody knows, and nobody wants to her the question 100 more times, take it as "will not be fixed right now"
[09:56:22] <LetoThe2nd> Quinto: so please go and use another board.
[09:56:28] <Quinto> ok
[10:00:32] <Quinto> LetoThe2nd: sorry
[10:00:37] <Quinto> but BBB is nice
[10:02:27] <beagle13> Is there a way to find the amount of free space in BB microSD card through the terminal
[10:02:48] <beagle13> other than df -h
[10:03:05] <Defiant> whats wrong with df -h
[10:04:11] <beagle13> card is suppose to be 4GB, but as usual some space will be wasted .. so cannnot rely on difference betweeen total space and used space
[10:10:28] <c10ud> beagle13, the Avail column is what you're looking for
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[10:13:02] <beagle13> I tried lsblk also ...I am confused with the output.
[10:13:11] <av500> what is wrong with df?
[10:13:43] <av500> size, used, avail
[10:13:47] <beagle13> the second column size doesnt add up to around 4 GB
[10:13:47] <av500> what else do you need?
[10:15:38] <beagle13> 1.8G , 122M , 25M , 5.0 M , 122M , 1004K ; the sum doesnt even reach 3.5 GB
[10:16:27] <c10ud> can we see the complete output?
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[10:16:47] <beagle13> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
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[10:17:28] <av500> pastebin
[10:17:33] <av500> .com
[10:17:36] <ragnar76> good morning
[10:18:12] <beagle13> hi
[10:18:41] <beagle13> mmcblk0p2 1.8G
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[10:19:38] <av500> pastebin the output of df -h
[10:21:35] <beagle13> devtmpfs 122M , none 25M , none 5.0 M , none 122M , mmcblk0p1 1004K
[10:21:52] <beagle13> Im not able to do a copy paste in this chat window
[10:22:26] <ogra_> you should never paste to a chat window anyway, iuse a pastebin :)
[10:23:31] <c10ud> beagle13, www.pastebin.com copy-paste-submit and put the link here for us to see
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[10:27:03] <beagle13> pastebin.com/Gm08UbbY
[10:27:33] <beagle13> c10ud: thanks a lot for this new piece of kwldg
[10:28:10] <c10ud> beagle13, as you can see from the output you have a very big boot partition
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[10:30:32] <beagle13> its just 1004 K ..
[10:30:58] <c10ud> beagle13, if you need more space you may want to recheck how you partitioned your card, 1Gib for boot is quite unusual since I only use 20 megs in mine
[10:31:31] <c10ud> ow, misread
[10:32:19] <c10ud> the hint is still valid though, you probably didn't use all the available space in the card when partitioning
[10:33:01] <beagle13> is it 1GiB or 1MiB
[10:33:26] <c10ud> 1m
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[10:35:41] <c10ud> beagle13, just remove the card from the bbb and check the partitioning, you'll see you have unused space and you hopefully can grow your root partition
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[10:39:23] <beagle13> the problem is I was doing a kernel installation via git and evry time it get struck at "this error : error: index-pack died of signal 9447389), 801.75 MiB | 30 KiB/s fatal: index-pack failed ".. So i was doubting if my memory is used up for something else
[10:41:06] <c10ud> i don't know about this specific error but you have 122m left on the device
[10:41:56] <c10ud> anyway, since your root partition is 1.8G and you say the card is 4, clearly the partition isn't filling the card so you may want to enlarge it regardlessly
[10:43:40] <LetoThe2nd> trying to git clone and build a kernel on a 4G card will fail anyways.
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[10:46:55] <ragnar76> ok, i ask again (maybe now is someone here who can help me). i use debian (in the emmc) but it is missing the p80211 module? dows anyone knows where to get or how to build it?
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[10:47:18] <beagle13> LetoThe2nd: Can you please tell me an alternative, i dont have nother way out..
[10:47:32] <LetoThe2nd> beagle13: cross compiling.
[10:47:34] <av500> build the kernel on your PC
[10:47:38] <av500> not on your BBB
[10:47:49] <LetoThe2nd> beagle13: building a kernel on 4G is just not possible these days.
[10:47:53] <av500> ragnar76: debian from where?
[10:48:18] <LetoThe2nd> beagle13: plus, get a kernel that actually supports the BBB. i doubt that for the generic ubuntu precise kernel.
[10:49:28] <beagle13> cross-compilation I tried with the cross copiler as -"arm-linux-gnueabi-", when I try to insmod that cross compiled .ko file it says "Invalid module format"
[10:49:43] <LetoThe2nd> beagle13: sigh. you really are not listening.
[10:49:47] <ragnar76> av500: from here http://beagleboard.org/project/Debian/
[10:49:56] <LetoThe2nd> beagle13: you have to cross build the kernel *AND* the module.
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[10:51:26] <LetoThe2nd> beagle13: or just use angstrom, and compile that module an target. i told you that already DAYS ago.
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[10:51:53] <beagle13> LetoThe2nd: just a big doubt , all these difficulties I face is only because of Ubuntu
[10:52:13] <LetoThe2nd> beagle13: all your problems are coming from two things. 1) you are using ubuntu, but without understanding the realtion between kernel and userland 2) you are not listening.
[10:53:36] <beagle13> the reason for using Ubuntu is , there are so many other factors which depends on Ubuntu alone... for those there is no Angstrom support..
[10:55:35] <LetoThe2nd> beagle13: but then, please also sort out the things that come from ubuntu, instead of blindly tinkering around
[10:56:01] <beagle13> ok..
[10:56:32] <LetoThe2nd> beagle13: here is some basic information: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ARMKernelCrossCompile
[10:56:48] <LetoThe2nd> beagle13: be sure to use a kernel tree that explicitly supports the BBB for that.
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[11:05:48] <ragnar76> ok, another question: when i build my own kernel, how can i tell the bbb to load it? uENV.txt?
[11:06:57] <ragnar76> or is there some kind of bootloader like grub, sys/isolinux, lilo?
[11:08:06] <LetoThe2nd> ragnar76: the easiest way is to just drop it in using the same file name as before.
[11:08:46] <ragnar76> okay
[11:11:05] <ragnar76> anyone successfull build kernel 3.12?
[11:17:22] <Peppe_T> ragnar76: uEnv.txt
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[15:16:33] <jamesjamess> hello
[15:16:43] <jamesjamess> hello
[15:17:08] <jamesjamess> any live person here?
[15:17:26] <dm8tbr> no, we're all dead, the zombie uprising got us
[15:17:41] * dm8tbr points at the topic
[15:17:42] <eggzeck-laptop> I'm turning soon. I've been bitten.
[15:18:07] <ogra_> omnomnomnom
[15:18:15] * ogra_ munches brain ...
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[15:19:36] * dm8tbr mutters steeeeepps, steeeeepps, exact steeeeeepps...
[15:19:51] <jamesjamesss> i have a question
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[15:20:14] <dm8tbr> 15:20:08-!- Topic for #beagle: http://beagleboard.org/chat has a guide on how to ask questions and links to the logs | never ask to ask, just ask | be patient | pastebin a boot log | http://ahsoftware.de/Beaglebone_Black_Boot_explained.svg
[15:20:14] <jamesjamesss> hello
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[15:20:25] * dm8tbr points out the "never ask to ask, just ask" part
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[15:20:36] <jamesjamesss> hello
[15:20:54] * dm8tbr ponders if jamesjamesss is trolling him
[15:21:15] <ogra_> dm8tbr, exact steps ? ... 1) catch men ... 2) twist cap of skull .. 3) munch brain
[15:21:28] <jamesjamesss> beaglebone black lost USB once i flash it
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[15:21:41] <jamesjamesss> i'm sure it software
[15:22:23] <dm8tbr> jamesjamesss: so you are trying to flash the BBB using the angstrom flasher image?
[15:23:32] <jamesjamesss> I copy the image to mico SD and bootup up from MicroSD. the image copy to MMC
[15:24:11] <jamesjamesss> once i boot up no USB connecton so i can't connect to notebook or any usb devices
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[15:25:28] <jamesjamesss> anybody know a fix?
[15:25:42] <LetoThe2nd> jamesjamesss: what image are you using?
[15:26:18] <jamesjamesss> latest one from the beaglebone website
[15:26:33] <jamesjamesss> i pick the mmc image
[15:26:34] <LetoThe2nd> ok, angstrom should have usb enabled.
[15:26:58] <jamesjamesss> when i got it the USB was working but not after the image update
[15:27:27] <LetoThe2nd> did you really follow the update procedure? 1) use the flasher-image, 2) wait for 4 lit leds?
[15:27:35] <LetoThe2nd> or did you invent your own?
[15:27:53] <jamesjamesss> i follow it
[15:28:00] <jamesjamesss> it boots up
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[15:29:31] <LetoThe2nd> then you probably need to dig deeper. or at least, be more precise - are we talking about the host or the device USB?
[15:30:04] <jamesjamesss> both the computer access and usb devices like keyboard
[15:30:32] <jamesjamesss> it like the USB is not turn on
[15:31:05] * LetoThe2nd has not checked the latest image so, pure guesswork from my side.
[15:31:16] <thurgood> are they plugged in at boot, and how are you powering?
[15:31:32] <jamesjamesss> i try both
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[15:33:20] <jamesjamesss> plug in without power then power. power on then plug in the devices
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[15:35:59] <jamesjamesss> nobody knows?
[15:38:57] <eggzeck-laptop> jamesjamesss: OK well the first thing you should determine is if it's actually botting correctly.
[15:39:08] <eggzeck-laptop> jamesjamesss: Can you SSH into it from a remote computer?
[15:39:50] <eggzeck-laptop> jamesjamesss: Or via the USB client?
[15:40:11] <dm8tbr> also first boot after flashing takes LONG
[15:40:15] <jamesjamesss> nope
[15:40:17] <dm8tbr> wait 10-20 minutes
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[15:40:27] <eggzeck-laptop> jamesjamesss: Yes, what dm8tbr stated is correct as well.
[15:40:47] <eggzeck-laptop> jamesjamesss: So if you can't then there's your problem, you didn't flash it correctly
[15:40:57] <eggzeck-laptop> jamesjamesss: Do what dm8tbr stated first, if not re-flash correctly
[15:41:43] <eggzeck-laptop> jamesjamesss: Once you re-flash (after waiting as dm8tbr stated), wait until the 4 LEDs are SOLID to power off and remove the microSD
[15:42:11] <jamesjamesss> i left it on all night
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[15:42:17] <eggzeck-laptop> jamesjamesss: Then WAIT once powering it back on, until you see the steady heartbeat of the USR0 LED or 18 minutes
[15:42:19] <Quinto> hi, can put libusb-1.0.16 on beagle board? from repository there isnt
[15:42:43] <eggzeck-laptop> jamesjamesss: OK then you didn't flash it correctly. If you cannot SSH into it, you did not flash it correctly.
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[15:43:08] <eggzeck-laptop> jamesjamesss: Do you have a serial connector?
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[15:43:41] <eggzeck-laptop> jamesjamesss: I would reflash the board, but ensure you wait until you see the 4 LEDs light up SOLID to power it off and remove the microSD
[15:43:43] <jamesjamesss> yes
[15:44:19] <jamesjamesss> i left it all night
[15:44:33] <eggzeck-laptop> Yes, but did you see the 4 LEDs light SOLID?
[15:44:40] <jamesjamesss> i past out
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[15:44:51] <eggzeck-laptop> They stay SOLID until you power it off
[15:44:53] <jamesjamesss> when i boot it i see all led lights up
[15:44:59] <eggzeck-laptop> If you did not see them solid you did it wrong
[15:45:27] <eggzeck-laptop> What OS are you using to ocnfigure the microSD?
[15:45:41] <eggzeck-laptop> If on linux, format the microSD using NTFS
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[15:47:16] <eggzeck-laptop> then run this command: xz -dkcv <angstrom flasher image>.img.gz <device>
[15:47:46] <eggzeck-laptop> ensure you're root, otherwise that command won't work, even using sudo.
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[15:48:26] <eggzeck-laptop> woops, forgot the ">" after the *.img.gz file
[15:48:28] <jamesjamesss> windows
[15:49:50] <Quinto> hi, can put libusb-1.0.16 on beagle board? from repository there isnt
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[15:50:29] <eggzeck-laptop> jamesjamesss: OK, then here's a link that will help you in windows: http://www.beagleboard.org/Getting%20Started#update
[15:51:03] <jamesjamesss> i will flash it now then
[15:51:07] <jamesjamesss> reflash it
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[15:52:46] <jamesjamesss> how long will it take
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[15:54:11] <ragnar76> gnarf, building the kernel is much faster than building the deb package :(
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[15:57:29] <jamesjamesss> you guys have problem with hdmi?
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[15:57:46] <eggzeck-laptop> jamesjamesss: Flashing it may take up to 45 minutes (some times longer)
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[15:58:06] <eggzeck-laptop> jamesjamesss: You need to be patient and wait until you see the 4 USR LEDs LIGHT SOLID
[15:58:17] <eggzeck-laptop> jamesjamesss: If you do anything before that, you'll ruin the flash
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[15:58:44] <eggzeck-laptop> jamesjamesss: Even if you pass out, the 4 USR LEDs will be waiting for you SOLID
[15:58:50] <eggzeck-laptop> jamesjamesss: :)
[15:59:01] <jamesjamesss> i never checked
[15:59:20] <eggzeck-laptop> jamesjamesss: I know, so do it again and wait until you see that sign
[15:59:39] <jamesjamesss> i had plans with my girlfrend
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[16:00:11] <jamesjamesss> i about to return the beaglebone if reflash fails
[16:02:56] <thews> md5sum your image if you haven't already
[16:03:01] <thews> then there's really no way that flash should fail
[16:03:31] <thews> keep 5v plugged in and usb, with no extra stuff connected so it has full power
[16:03:32] <thews> no worries
[16:04:06] <jamesjamesss> i only have 5v plug in not the usb
[16:04:13] <thews> should be good then
[16:05:06] <jamesjamesss> i just plg the usb
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[16:07:03] <thews> don't need the usb, I have an extra usb battery pack hooked to mine, which isn't usual
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[16:08:51] <ZiNC> Hello
[16:09:41] <Biodragon> ma nishma
[16:09:53] <ZiNC> Difficult to say.
[16:10:07] <ZiNC> You? :)
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[16:10:53] <Biodragon> I'm good
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[16:11:50] <ZiNC> Expatriate?
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[16:13:15] <KotH> aren't all jews expatriate by their definition?
[16:13:35] <ZiNC> Why?
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[16:14:26] <KotH> holy land given by god and diaspora and stuff
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[16:14:51] <ZiNC> Most are there now.
[16:15:17] <ragnar76> darn, the buildscript uses the x86 depmod, not the arm one
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[16:27:48] <eggzeck-laptop> I should have ordered two boards instead of one.
[16:28:10] <eggzeck-laptop> Ah well, I'm not waiting for this RMA to come in, going to order another BBB now.
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[16:31:23] <ragnar76> eggzeck: i will order a 2nd one in a few days
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[16:31:48] <eggzeck-laptop> ragnar76: Yeah, it's always good to have more than one.
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[16:33:32] <ragnar76> eggzeck: they are more expensive than the raspies here in germany but they are more powerfull and have a working usb/ethernet (not the crap one in the raspi)
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[16:39:27] <eggzeck-laptop> ragnar76: Well worth the money. As you said, more powerful. And (I believe) more versatile due to its headers.
[16:40:24] <ragnar76> eggzeck: i will only use software thing, i'm not into hardware
[16:41:32] <ragnar76> maybe i will buy a vga or dvi cape to connect older displays
[16:41:37] <KotH> but you still need working hardware to run your software ;)
[16:43:05] <ragnar76> mine works except wlan with ap (missing 80211 part in debian). the reason why i build my very own kernel
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[17:02:57] <jamesjamesss> hello
[17:03:05] <jamesjamesss> it has been flash
[17:03:13] <jamesjamesss> all the led is lighted up
[17:05:19] <eggzeck-laptop> OK, now turn off the device
[17:05:27] <eggzeck-laptop> UNPLUG the power source
[17:05:33] <eggzeck-laptop> then remove the microSD
[17:05:48] <jamesjamesss> done
[17:06:14] <eggzeck-laptop> power it back on and WAIT at least 15 minutes or until you see the steady heartbeat on the USR0 LED. I would wait 15 minutes though to be sure
[17:06:24] <eggzeck-laptop> Also, make sure to plug in an ethernet cable
[17:06:39] <eggzeck-laptop> then you can SSH into it remotely to be sure it booted correctly, etc.
[17:06:55] <jamesjamesss> i don't have ethernet
[17:07:20] <eggzeck-laptop> OK then use the USB client or a serial conection
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[17:12:48] <jamesjamesss> why the 15 min wait?
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[17:18:56] <jamesjamesss> i don't see the d: drive for the flash?
[17:19:16] <jamesjamesss> i can't open the ssh using gate one
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[17:22:39] <Sulphurik> Hey everyone
[17:23:04] <Sulphurik> looking for a little help setting up my beagle board
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[17:29:14] <jamesjamesss> my usb works now but my gate one for ssl don't work
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[17:30:36] <Sulphurik> I just need some advice about getting my board up and running. It would be awesome if someone could help
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[17:33:16] <router> how do I build mplayer?
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[17:33:23] <router> for ti sitara 6.0
[17:34:03] <router> sulphurik:what you need?
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[17:35:11] <Sulphurik> I have a beagleboard b6 and i put angstrom on an sd card but all i get when i turn it on is an orange screen
[17:35:15] <ragnar76> router: use a crosscompiler
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[17:37:02] <router> Sulphurik:on LCD or monitor?
[17:37:12] <Sulphurik> router : on monitor
[17:37:21] <Sulphurik> through hdmi
[17:37:58] <router> ragnar76:what is your env.txt on your sd card?
[17:39:27] <router> defaultdisplay=dvi
[17:39:27] <router> dvimode="1280x800MR-16@60 omapfb.vram=0:8M,1:4M,2:4M"
[17:39:40] <router> vram=16M
[17:40:23] <router> maybe your u-boot is not for your board
[17:40:35] <Sulphurik> how can i check?
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[17:49:28] <router> sulphurib: do you boot from SD card?
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[17:51:52] <Sulphurik> router : yeah, i have an 8gb sd card
[17:52:26] <router> you boot the mlo, u-boot.img on your sd card.
[17:52:52] <router> can you check the boot message from the serial port?
[17:53:40] <Sulphurik> i just used winimage to put angstom onto the sd card.....i don't have a null modem cable
[17:54:02] <Sulphurik> mlo and u-boot are on the sd card
[17:55:14] <router> how about a USB to RS232 cable?
[17:55:18] <router> you need one to do the debug.
[17:55:55] <Sulphurik> i may have to buy one
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[17:56:37] <router> u connect your board to monitor's VGA or HDMI port?
[17:57:04] <Sulphurik> hdmi....it shows the beagle logo and then just an orange screen
[17:57:28] <router> oh
[17:57:48] <router> then mlo and uboot ok.
[17:58:10] <Sulphurik> any idea why it won't boot to the desktop?
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[18:01:28] <router> sulphurik: is there a S-Video output on your board?
[18:01:50] <Sulphurik> yes
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[18:02:02] <router> sulphurik: create a uEnv.txt and add
[18:02:02] <router> defaultdisplay=dvi
[18:02:03] <router> dvimode="1280x800MR-16@60 omapfb.vram=0:8M,1:4M,2:4M"
[18:02:03] <router> vram=16M
[18:02:08] <router> to your u-boot
[18:02:16] <router> The BeagleBoard.org logo will be sent out of the DVI port and the color bars will appear on the S-Video Port
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[18:02:38] <router> maybe that is the reason"The BeagleBoard.org logo will be sent out of the DVI port and the color bars will appear on the S-Video Port"
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[18:04:15] <Sulphurik> router : the first line in uEnv.txt is "console=tty0"
[18:04:22] <Sulphurik> is it ok to leave that ?
[18:04:34] <Sulphurik> or should that be the last line?
[18:05:19] <router> what is ok.
[18:06:02] <Sulphurik> there was a line in the uEnv that says "console-tty0" is that ok?
[18:06:10] <router> yup.
[18:07:11] <ragnar76> have to leave
[18:07:12] <router> i think your video output is S-Video'
[18:07:13] <ragnar76> bbl
[18:07:17] <Sulphurik> thank you
[18:07:28] <router> ragnar76:thx for the help
[18:07:32] <Sulphurik> if that doesn't work is there something else i can try?
[18:07:38] <ragnar76> np
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[18:08:55] <router> sulphurib:is there a line says "deafultdisplay"?
[18:09:20] <Sulphurik> router : no
[18:09:46] <router> how about tv.ntsc?
[18:09:59] <router> omapfb.mode= or omapdss.def_disp=tv?
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[18:10:10] <Sulphurik> wait sorry....i added a line "defaultdisplay=dvi
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[18:10:20] <router> YUP.
[18:10:23] <router> yup
[18:10:24] <router> correct
[18:10:28] <Sulphurik> great
[18:10:34] <Sulphurik> thank you so much
[18:10:38] <router> works?
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[18:11:12] <Sulphurik> i have to try it at my girlfriends house....i left my HDMI cable there connected to my Raspberry Pi
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[18:11:41] <router> ok. maybe your default is set to omapfb.mode=tv:ntsc omapdss.def_disp=tv
[18:12:01] <router> you get a RS232 cable while on your way to your gilrfriends house. :)
[18:12:34] <Sulphurik> will the "defaultdisplay=dvi over ride the tv out?
[18:12:44] <router> correct
[18:12:52] <Sulphurik> i will try it tonight
[18:13:14] <router> you may need to set dvimode= as well.
[18:13:19] <router> not sure.
[18:13:27] <Sulphurik> what is the code for that?
[18:13:52] <router> add that line below the deafaultdisplay
[18:13:58] <router> you can look up on google
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[18:14:31] <Sulphurik> ok
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[18:18:03] <router> i am compiling mlayer got this error"vo_ivtv.c:79: error: storage size of 'sd' isn't known"
[18:18:27] <Sulphurik> thank you router
[18:18:46] <router> no problem.
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[19:45:42] <`Ishq> Has anyone controlled a sprinkler valve with the beaglebone black?
[19:46:15] <_av500_> I did, but then the BBB got all wet and died :(
[19:46:21] <`Ishq> Lol
[19:46:38] <`Ishq> Can you do it with only GPIO ports?
[19:46:41] <`Ishq> <-- Newbie
[19:47:12] <_av500_> sure
[19:47:13] <_av500_> thats what they are for
[19:47:26] <_av500_> GPIO low: dry, GPIO high: flood
[19:47:36] <_av500_> or they other way round
[19:47:53] <`Ishq> Well, in my case, I'm not controlling sprinklers, I just happened to pick a sprinkler valve for another project.
[19:47:59] <`Ishq> It's just air in this case.
[19:48:29] <`Ishq> Now, I just need to figure out how to boost the voltage...
[19:51:07] <dm8tbr> you use relays
[19:51:27] <dm8tbr> there are some boards and some blog posts about how to do that
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[19:52:01] <prpplague> `Ishq: someone G+ had a cape for black to do water sprinkler system
[19:53:30] <`Ishq> Yeah, but a cape is aa little overboard for what I want.
[19:53:36] <`Ishq> I'm reading a lot of posts, and yeah
[19:53:41] <dm8tbr> let me look it up, there was some nice board a friend of mine bought. on one side gpio on the other relays
[19:53:49] <`Ishq> I'm reading you acn use a relay or maybe a mofset
[19:53:52] <`Ishq> *can
[19:54:23] <dm8tbr> sorry for the german link, but it should get you the idea: http://www.amazon.de/dp/B00AEIDWXK/ref=pe_386171_37038021_pe_217221_31005211_3p_M3T1_dp_1
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[19:55:31] <dm8tbr> apparently it's a "SainSmart 8 Channel DC 5V Relay Module"
[19:55:48] <prpplague> `Ishq: yes you can just use a relay, pretty easy to do with a gpio
[19:55:48] <`Ishq> Thanks
[19:56:52] <dm8tbr> or a mosfet, depending on use-case
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[20:36:52] <KotH> `Ishq: if you connect a relay to a BBB (or any microcontroller board) make sure you use a transistor (bipolar or FET) to actually switch the relay. the GPIO output current is not enough to drive a relay and you might damage the chip if you connect it directly
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[20:37:03] <KotH> n'abend woglinde
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[20:42:57] <diego> hello
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[20:43:26] <Guest61676> k
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[20:43:55] <Guest61676> does anyone know how to install tkinter on BBB
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[20:48:15] <Guest61676> HOW TO INSTALL TKINTER IN THE BBB?
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[20:52:47] <dm8tbr> Guest61676: repeating yourself, especially in all caps decreases your chances of an answer
[20:58:02] <KotH> Guest61676: actually, it increases your chance to get banned
[20:59:14] <Guest61676> Sorry
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[21:48:59] <thurgood> Guest37817: check the repo?
[21:49:25] <router> how do I find out which /dev/videoX is linked to my mt9p031 camera?
[21:49:28] <thurgood> err wrong Guest...
[21:49:30] <router> ls /dev
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[21:49:55] <thurgood> roter how many are there?
[21:50:03] <router> video0 to video6
[21:50:26] <router> lsmod mt9p031 6392 1
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[21:56:24] <router> E: ID_V4L_PRODUCT=OMAP3 ISP resizer output
[21:56:38] <router> OMAP3 ISP resizer input, ID_V4L_PRODUCT=OMAP3 ISP preview output
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[21:57:08] <router> how do I use mplayer to display the camera image on video fb?
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[22:06:02] <brents> I am trying to setup ti's code composer for beagle bone black. Tried white and failed.
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[22:10:07] <brents> has anyone done this on windows based code composer
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[22:25:07] <router> brents, fail?
[22:25:24] <router> i download 5.5 version
[22:25:39] <brents> Has anyone setup Code Composer on windows for the Beagle Bone Black?
[22:26:19] <router> brents, let me try
[22:26:29] <router> ccs_setup_5.5.0.00077.exe
[22:26:37] <brents> Yes running 5.5.
[22:26:41] <_av500_> what do you need it for?
[22:27:13] <router> installing
[22:28:29] <_av500_> I mean, why use CCS?
[22:29:32] <brents> When I try to launch "bone-target-configuration.ccxml, I get "...does not have a valid configuration. Please configure the target and try again."
[22:30:23] <router> then it is your configuration problem.
[22:30:26] <router> not the CCS5
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[22:31:03] <brents> I downloaded the ccxml file form Beagle
[22:31:25] <brents> Simple question! Has anyone done this???
[22:31:55] <router> no me. no jtag
[22:32:11] <router> I am not sure if you are using XDS-100v2 or XDS-560 debuggers.
[22:32:11] <router> - If you are using the XDS-100v2, you can activate the free license from
[22:32:11] <router> TI.
[22:32:18] <router> it is what i found on google
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[22:34:04] <brents> Not a licence problem. Just need to setup include files so cross compile works.
[22:36:56] <router> ok. sorry. i dont have the experience
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[22:47:05] <`Ishq> KotH: Thanks. Good to know.
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[23:53:37] <ragnar76> re