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  • [03:38:35] <toriq> hi there
  • [03:38:42] <toriq> is there anyone?
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  • [07:40:51] <Vaizki> yes anyone was here but he left and no-one is now taking care of business so ask her
  • [07:41:33] <Vaizki> hmmmh how did that happen.. znc bugs? :P
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  • [08:26:30] <asdf__> what is the difference between the following two images from ' http://beagleboard.org/latest-images ' ...." Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.12-beaglebone-2013.06.20.img.xz " and "BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.06.20.img.xz " ...???
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  • [08:27:59] <asdf__> And also why "opkg update " is not working for my BBB ?
  • [08:28:44] <asdf__> it is returning ' opkg_download: Failed to download http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/debug/Packages.gz, wget returned 1.
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  • [08:40:15] <jjc> asdf__: your best bet is probably to ask later, i cant help you but there are more people here from 2pm GMT onwards
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  • [08:58:13] <Tenkawa> greetings all
  • [08:59:52] <dm8tbr> mooo
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  • [09:00:27] <Rotti> hi!
  • [09:00:50] <Tenkawa> greetings
  • [09:04:22] <Tenkawa> which usb kernel driver does the beaglebone black use?
  • [09:04:41] <Tenkawa> i'm running into a unable to initialize libusb: -99 problem currently
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  • [09:11:39] <Tenkawa> it seems to be determined not to find the usb port
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  • [09:20:35] <Tenkawa> this is starting to make no sense at all
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  • [09:31:34] <dm8tbr> Tenkawa: first check if lsusb sees it
  • [09:31:54] <Tenkawa> dm8tbr: thats whata giving the error
  • [09:32:18] <dm8tbr> then you have other problems than the BBB
  • [09:32:20] <Tenkawa> no /dev/bus/usb or /proc/bus/usb when i strace it
  • [09:32:34] <Tenkawa> dm8tbr: yeah i'm worried it fried
  • [09:32:52] <Tenkawa> althougg i am using a custom 3.12 kernel
  • [09:33:08] <Tenkawa> going to boot a 3.8.13-bone kernel in a few inutes
  • [09:33:15] <Tenkawa> er minutes
  • [09:34:28] <dm8tbr> Tenkawa: what is your setup exactly?
  • [09:34:44] <Tenkawa> i was hoping i just missed a kernel setting... worried that might not be the caze
  • [09:34:52] <Tenkawa> dm8tbr: elaborate please
  • [09:34:53] <dm8tbr> because at first it sounded like you wanted to connect to the BBB by USB
  • [09:34:58] <Tenkawa> no no
  • [09:35:04] <dm8tbr> what are you trying to do?
  • [09:35:33] <Tenkawa> its already up and running... just ssh'ed into it (slackware) and it cant see its own usb bus
  • [09:36:30] <Tenkawa> ok.. booting to bone20
  • [09:36:47] * Tenkawa waits and watches the leds go
  • [09:40:07] <Tenkawa> great, my devicetree seems to be all messed up
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  • [09:44:16] <Tenkawa> lets see if my last 3.11 kernel can see it
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  • [09:45:56] <Tenkawa> ok... something 3.12 kernel specific
  • [09:46:01] <Tenkawa> 3.11 sees it fine
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  • [09:46:32] <dm8tbr> might need to check your build config then
  • [09:47:03] <Tenkawa> i juat verified i had the musb-hdrc configured in both
  • [09:47:09] <Tenkawa> er just
  • [09:47:38] <Tenkawa> looming om github.. this might be a known problem
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  • [10:01:10] <asdf__> Can any one please say why ' opkg update ' is not working in BBB ?
  • [10:02:18] <Tenkawa> asdf__: define not working
  • [10:03:57] <asdf__> <tenkawa> its returning 'opkg_download: Failed to download http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/base/Packages.gz, wget returned 1 '
  • [10:04:36] <KotH> "not working", abrevation for "does not do what i expect it to do, no matter whather i am doing something wrong, illogical or down righ dangerous"
  • [10:05:04] <Tenkawa> does wget to that url work by itself?
  • [10:05:23] <Tenkawa> ie wget "http://feeds.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/base/Packages.gz"
  • [10:05:31] <KotH> asdf__: your network config is wrong or you are not connected to a network
  • [10:05:48] <asdf__> iam connected and i can ping
  • [10:05:55] <KotH> asdf__: note: the usb network over windwos _DOES_NOT_WORK_ out of the box
  • [10:06:18] <Tenkawa> asdf__: make sure that command i listed above works
  • [10:06:38] <Tenkawa> if not then you have a network setup problem
  • [10:06:47] <Tenkawa> i just tested that wget fine here
  • [10:07:01] <asdf__> <tenkawa> it is returning wget: bad address 'feeds.angstrom-distribution.org'
  • [10:07:18] <Tenkawa> asdf__: check /etc/resolv.conf
  • [10:07:43] <Tenkawa> you definitely have a network setup issue on the bbb
  • [10:08:06] <Tenkawa> if it cant even do a nameservice lookup
  • [10:08:16] <asdf__> that contains # Generated by Connection Manager nameserver 127.0.0.1
  • [10:08:40] <Tenkawa> you dont have a dns server defined
  • [10:08:49] <asdf__> how to do it
  • [10:09:03] <Tenkawa> you need a nameserver ip.address.entry in the file
  • [10:09:08] <Tenkawa> ie:
  • [10:09:25] <asdf__> ie:
  • [10:09:35] <Tenkawa> nameserver 192.168.1.254
  • [10:09:50] <Tenkawa> change the ip to your dns server
  • [10:10:05] <Tenkawa> then try again
  • [10:10:46] <asdf__> definitely i will try like that,but how to know my dns server ip :-(
  • [10:10:46] * Tenkawa grumbles at git delta checking
  • [10:11:04] <asdf__> sorry for asking so many quwstions,i dont have other way
  • [10:11:16] <Tenkawa> asdf__: check another machine on your network
  • [10:11:16] <KotH> asdf__: get a good bottle of wine and bring it to your sysadmin ;)
  • [10:11:30] <Tenkawa> if it is windows run ipconfig /all
  • [10:11:33] <KotH> asdf__: or, connect the _ethernet_ interface of the bbb to your network
  • [10:11:34] <asdf__> KotH :-)
  • [10:11:42] <KotH> asdf__: and let dhcp do the rest
  • [10:11:44] <Tenkawa> and scan through the list for dns servers
  • [10:11:52] <Tenkawa> KotH: bah to dhcp
  • [10:12:04] <KotH> asdf__: as i said before, the usb network connection over windows _does_not_work_
  • [10:12:21] * Tenkawa didnt have dns when he started
  • [10:12:22] <KotH> Tenkawa: for people who dont know anything about networking it's the best solution we have currently
  • [10:12:27] <Tenkawa> KotH: true
  • [10:12:47] <Tenkawa> mind you i started in 1979
  • [10:12:49] <Tenkawa> heheheh
  • [10:13:05] <Tenkawa> yes i'm ancient
  • [10:13:08] <KotH> mind you, i wasnt even born then ;)
  • [10:13:14] <Tenkawa> haahaa
  • [10:14:57] <Tenkawa> KotH: i wasnt "very" old yet however old enough to remember how "different" computing was back then
  • [10:15:23] * Tenkawa grumbles at git more
  • [10:15:24] <KotH> Tenkawa: computing was very different when i started 15y ago
  • [10:15:31] <Tenkawa> KotH: indeed
  • [10:15:52] <Tenkawa> KotH: i miss the late 90's era of computing
  • [10:16:00] <KotH> and youngsters laugh at my way of using unix w/o a desktop environment
  • [10:16:13] <Tenkawa> KotH: cli all the way
  • [10:16:15] <KotH> s/youngsters/babies/ for you ;)
  • [10:16:43] <Tenkawa> KotH: yeah.. most of my coworkers are gui dependant
  • [10:16:51] <Tenkawa> and they are i.t.
  • [10:16:59] <KotH> cli? not really, i use a couple of non-cli applications... most of them are terminal windows ;)
  • [10:17:14] <Tenkawa> KotH: meh.. thats still cli
  • [10:17:19] <Tenkawa> with a frame
  • [10:17:21] <Tenkawa> haahaa
  • [10:17:23] <KotH> *g*
  • [10:17:45] <Tenkawa> i'm using an ipad and issh right now
  • [10:17:57] <Tenkawa> works greatly
  • [10:17:59] <KotH> if you ever want to drive your co-workers crazy, set up a linux the way it would have been in mid/late 90s
  • [10:18:13] <Tenkawa> KotH: noone would be able to login
  • [10:18:21] <KotH> fvwm, no desktop environment, no dbus, etc pp
  • [10:18:26] <KotH> they will hate you :)
  • [10:18:36] <Tenkawa> until i fired up kerberos and/or nis
  • [10:18:55] <Tenkawa> KotH: they already think i'm weird
  • [10:19:07] <KotH> the best people are weird ;)
  • [10:19:12] <Tenkawa> indeed
  • [10:19:15] <KotH> but dont worry, they call me weird to
  • [10:19:17] <KotH> too
  • [10:19:24] <KotH> and i'm a couple of years younger than you are
  • [10:19:33] <Tenkawa> KotH: oh i am... no need to be called it
  • [10:19:45] <KotH> hehe
  • [10:19:52] <Tenkawa> then again... when you started the way i did....
  • [10:20:08] <Tenkawa> i still miss heathkits and such
  • [10:20:12] * KotH nods knowingly
  • [10:20:37] <Tenkawa> thought about buying some stuff from mcm just to build something again
  • [10:21:20] * Tenkawa has 2 rapberry-pi's , a beaglebone black, and a quad core freescale i.mx toys
  • [10:21:57] <Tenkawa> now those are fun computing
  • [10:22:11] * KotH hands Tenkawa a soldering iron
  • [10:22:36] <Tenkawa> KotH: whats that? *laugh*
  • [10:22:50] <Tenkawa> got 3 of them sitting around
  • [10:23:07] <jjc> If I have an image for the BBB, how do I make it write that image to the eMMC if it is not currently set to?
  • [10:23:19] <Tenkawa> one's even battery powered (crappy unit though)
  • [10:23:41] <KotH> jjc: write it by hand using the mtd tools?
  • [10:24:00] <KotH> oh.. wait.. the emmc is not an mtd device
  • [10:24:04] <Tenkawa> jjc: active system on the mmc currently or blank/broje?
  • [10:24:04] <KotH> dd alone should work
  • [10:24:09] <Tenkawa> er broke
  • [10:24:43] <jjc> its an out the box beagle
  • [10:24:51] <jjc> so its got the default angstrom on it
  • [10:25:06] <Tenkawa> jjc: you should be able to use the standard flashing procedure
  • [10:25:28] <jjc> holding the butt button when applying power?
  • [10:25:33] <jjc> *boot
  • [10:25:35] <jjc> oops
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  • [10:25:44] <Tenkawa> i cant remember however its something like that
  • [10:26:04] * Tenkawa just recently re-loaded his onto an sd
  • [10:26:07] <jjc> i was under the impression the image needed to be marked as writable
  • [10:26:14] <jjc> or something to that effect
  • [10:26:26] * Tenkawa is preparing to start hooking up ssd's again
  • [10:26:53] <Tenkawa> btw... tmpfs is distcc's best friend.. just got to say
  • [10:27:54] <Tenkawa> have a good day a
  • [10:28:02] <KotH> have fun
  • [10:28:11] <Tenkawa> have a good day all.. time to go to work...
  • [10:28:15] <Tenkawa> cheers
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  • [10:40:58] <asdf__> thanks Koth..its worked
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  • [11:53:27] <jjc> Is there anybody here that knows a way of making a custom .img file flashable on a BBB?
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  • [12:25:18] <damien_pik> Problem solved by the bonescript upgrade !
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  • [12:57:22] <Rotti> jjc: don't know for sure, but maybe take an existing one, mount it, apply your changes, umount it?
  • [12:58:35] <Rotti> another way could be some black magic with dd, so where to write which partition
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  • [14:54:37] <cyronin> hey, is there any way to fix the power failure issue? Ive got the one where you plug in power and the power led blinks and nothign happens
  • [14:55:23] <cyronin> I know I can RMA it, but I saw on the google groups boards something about replacing the PMIC
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  • [16:27:24] <digitalw00t> Morning.
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  • [16:50:22] <calr> Anyone know where I can get instructions on how to setup QT to cross compile to the bb xm
  • [16:52:57] <digitalw00t> Are the opkg repositories offline for angstrom?
  • [16:53:13] <digitalw00t> I flashed the latest firmware, and now it can't find the opkg repositories.
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  • [16:56:04] <woglinde> digitalw00t hm
  • [16:56:19] <woglinde> digitalw00t what image for what machine?
  • [16:56:35] <digitalw00t> bbb, latest eMMC flash.
  • [16:57:17] <digitalw00t> Get in through the usb ssh, verfiy I have a front end network connection, and try to do opkg update.
  • [16:57:30] <digitalw00t> I hit the url it's trying in my real host and nothing comes up.
  • [16:57:31] <woglinde> hm http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ works
  • [16:57:47] <digitalw00t> btw.. when are we doing to get some windows 8 signed drivers for 64 bit?
  • [16:57:55] <woglinde> why?
  • [16:58:02] <woglinde> most people using linux
  • [16:58:10] <woglinde> signed driver only cost something
  • [16:58:23] <woglinde> that would be my point of view
  • [16:58:36] <woglinde> but circituo or ti may have some other
  • [16:59:00] <woglinde> btw. http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/ works too for me
  • [16:59:07] <woglinde> maybee the us mirror has some problems
  • [17:02:45] <digitalw00t> Only want to get the windows drivers going so I can work from any platform, since I have to use both linux and windows.
  • [17:03:01] <digitalw00t> I'll try again.. might be it is having issues.
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  • [17:05:55] <woglinde> why you need windows too?
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  • [17:17:05] <digitalw00t> The place I work is a windows shop, and that's what they give to work on.
  • [17:17:33] <digitalw00t> the opkh in the bbb angstrom is looking at emerald.openembedded.org
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  • [17:19:00] <digitalw00t> opkg that is.
  • [17:19:13] <woglinde> digitalw00t hm oh never heard of this server
  • [17:19:37] <woglinde> digitalw00t but it works here
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  • [17:20:26] <digitalw00t> hhmm..
  • [17:20:34] <digitalw00t> Wonder if it's a firewall at my end.
  • [17:21:30] <digitalw00t> http://140.211.169.179/feeds/v2012.12/ipk/eglibc/armv7a-vfp-neon/base/Packages.gz
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  • [17:21:39] <digitalw00t> The feed appears to not be there.
  • [17:22:21] <digitalw00t> So out of the box a bbb can't patch.. interesting.
  • [17:22:27] <woglinde> digitalw00t okay use www.angstrom-distribution.org than
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  • [17:23:52] <meng_> Hi guys, how can I get APIs document of beaglebone black
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  • [17:29:53] <woglinde> meng_ what excatly?
  • [17:30:03] <woglinde> hardware software?
  • [17:30:09] <woglinde> linux kernel?
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  • [17:30:59] <mdp> zeppy!
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  • [17:31:16] <mdp> ha,wrong channel
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  • [17:31:32] <woglinde> mdp haha
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  • [17:31:46] <woglinde> hi jackmitchell
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  • [17:34:04] <meng_> Hi woglinde, I want the doc of APIs for c++ programming. Then I can program c++ to control the board
  • [17:34:52] <meng_> I cannot find any offical doc about it
  • [17:34:53] <digitalw00t> woglinde: mental note.. change all opkg feeds to us.* to what is in there. The default feeds don't work. :/
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  • [17:36:19] <woglinde> meng_ bbb has g++
  • [17:36:44] <woglinde> if follows mostly posix standard and has some gnu extensions
  • [17:36:50] <woglinde> at least for the c part
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  • [17:37:25] <woglinde> meng_ more you will find here http://gcc.gnu.org/
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  • [17:39:08] <meng_> Yes I used their g++. But under sys/class file, how do I know what does each file do? How can I write into them to control the board?
  • [17:39:27] <woglinde> /sys comes from linux kernel
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  • [17:41:35] <meng_> OK I see. So I just need to go for some linux docs to find out how to use it
  • [17:41:41] <woglinde> meng_ you have to read the linux source code to understand all files under /sys
  • [17:41:53] <woglinde> some are generic some are board specific
  • [17:42:04] <woglinde> sure
  • [17:42:24] <woglinde> linux folder has one big dir named Documentation
  • [17:42:31] <woglinde> source code folder
  • [17:43:04] <meng_> OK I see. Are files under /sys only files that I need to work with to control beagleboard?
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  • [18:11:24] <woglinde> meng_ depends what you want
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  • [18:19:09] <plm> Hi all
  • [18:19:38] <plm> people, how I install python 3.3 on bbb/Angstrom v2012.12?
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  • [18:20:22] <woglinde> plm you cannt
  • [18:20:34] <woglinde> with packagemanagment
  • [18:20:40] <woglinde> because there are no packages
  • [18:20:45] <woglinde> you need to compile it yourself
  • [18:21:27] <plm> woglinde: just get from python.org and compile will works? I need 3.3 becouse I need to use can, and support for can is just 3.3
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  • [18:24:51] <woglinde> plm I do not know if python.org has precompiled packages for arm
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  • [20:13:09] <woglinde> *sigh* damn musb
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  • [20:13:58] <daveToronto> Does anyone know how I can move files over from my beaglebone black to a usb stick?
  • [20:14:41] <TrevizeDaneel1> my BBB has suddenly stopped working and it does not boot anymore. When I plug the power in the power led lits for an instant then nothing happens. what do u think might have been gone wrong?
  • [20:15:21] <TrevizeDaneel1> I have tried both the usb and the power adapter, the result is the same
  • [20:17:08] <woglinde> TrevizeDaneel1 serial console and boot from sdcard if you do not get output try to RMA it
  • [20:19:42] <TrevizeDaneel1> but the led lights fon an instant an then goes off
  • [20:19:57] <TrevizeDaneel1> looks like the board is not powered
  • [20:23:46] <TrevizeDaneel1> I think I'll have ti file a RMA for it :'(
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  • [20:39:17] <cracker> Hi
  • [20:39:40] <cracker> Can beabglebone or beagleboard be used for a kiosk machine
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  • [20:41:09] <woglinde> cracker yes I think so
  • [20:41:55] <mark4> woglinde, found the bug that was causing me all that grief, now im on to the next one which basically means unit testing all my primitives
  • [20:42:26] <woglinde> mark4 whats was the bug
  • [20:42:28] <mark4> the forth kernel now runs but some of the primitives dont work the way they are supposed to so it still crashes. this is an EASY bug to fix because i know exactly how every single primitive is SUPPOSED to work
  • [20:42:38] <woglinde> thats what I am intrested in
  • [20:42:59] <mark4> the code was doing some VERY complex data manipulation, i would have to explain some details about how forth works in order for it to make sense
  • [20:43:16] <woglinde> hm okay
  • [20:43:25] <woglinde> I am glad for you you worked it out
  • [20:43:31] <mark4> there wwere actually two bugs but one was a "i need to point to this address -4" when i really needed to NOT subtract 4 from the address lol
  • [20:43:45] <woglinde> haha
  • [20:43:51] <mark4> there would have been no way for me to find that bug other than SEEING exactly what data got moved to where
  • [20:44:01] <woglinde> yes
  • [20:44:21] <mark4> im doing a structure relocation. i had a register that pointed to the first structure to relocate
  • [20:44:26] <mark4> and one that pointed to the last one
  • [20:44:38] <cracker> woglinde,which specifc board would help ,BeagleBone or BeagleBoard XM ? Also which OS would be best and how should I develop the UI ,I mean the framework.Thanks
  • [20:45:08] <mark4> i fetched the address of the last one and subtracted 4 to point to the end address. i keep relocating structures till source pointer = end pointer. it never equaled because of the errant -4
  • [20:45:20] <mark4> there was another bug in there but its difficult to explain
  • [20:45:22] <woglinde> cracker you would more get out from beagle xm
  • [20:45:41] <mark4> the xm is a more powerful board
  • [20:45:49] <mark4> <3 xm lol
  • [20:46:04] <woglinde> cracker ui you should use the one you are familiar with
  • [20:46:19] <woglinde> qt or gtk or even android
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  • [20:46:38] <woglinde> or javafx with latest oracle 8 jdk
  • [20:46:39] <cracker> Ok is android support stable on beaglebone
  • [20:46:49] <woglinde> o.O
  • [20:47:01] <woglinde> bone will not work good as kiosk
  • [20:47:16] <cracker> :-)
  • [20:47:27] <cracker> Any advise on which board helps me on that
  • [20:47:32] <mark4> cracker what do you need android support for specifically?
  • [20:47:39] <cracker> I need to create a kisok which has an lcd
  • [20:47:50] <mark4> do you intend to do an embedded android product or use an embedded arm to do android development.
  • [20:47:57] <mark4> if the latter just ebay an old phone.
  • [20:49:34] <cracker> <Mark> The kiosk has and lcd and there will be 10-15 screens and each interaction on the screen speaks with a central server.I need to decide on a dev board which is apt for this requirement.I dont have any restrictions as such.
  • [20:49:39] <woglinde> *sigh
  • [20:49:51] <mark4> aha
  • [20:49:54] <mark4> hang on
  • [20:49:56] <woglinde> skaomans latest stuff for beagle and overo does not have ext4 support
  • [20:50:06] <woglinde> but its from last december
  • [20:50:24] <woglinde> I hope damn musb otg and g_ether will work with it
  • [20:50:36] <mark4> http://www.embeddedarm.com/products/board-detail.php?product=TS-8700-4710#
  • [20:51:03] <mark4> thats more powerful than the beagle but costs more too
  • [20:51:12] <mark4> that was my primary choice before discovering the xm
  • [20:51:18] <mark4> went with the xm because of price
  • [20:52:02] <mark4> oh i dont see android support listed... you might have to work for that. im not sure
  • [20:53:10] <cracker_> <Mark> ok thanks.What about Arduino and RaspBerry PI.Are they more suited for hobby or educational projects.You have any idea about FriendlyArm boards.
  • [20:54:29] <cracker_> <Mark> I work on Java .But ther's nothing like Andorid should be supported.I can learn other frameworks like qt etc.Might be if I use Android,it would help in longer run.
  • [20:54:42] <woglinde> hm intressting never heard of the pxa 168 before
  • [20:54:48] <woglinde> its out since 2009
  • [20:55:32] <woglinde> cracker the friendlyarm boards have not seen many love in kernel lands
  • [20:56:30] <woglinde> cracker you can even use java directly
  • [20:56:47] <woglinde> angstroem/oe support comes from me
  • [20:56:56] <woglinde> or using ubuntu which has arm debs too
  • [20:57:17] <woglinde> or as I said using latest oracle 8 jdk made for rpi
  • [20:57:34] <woglinde> it has javafx support too, when you want to make a nice looking gui
  • [20:57:43] <woglinde> awt and swing is so ugly
  • [20:57:57] <mark4> the pi is awesome, the only thing i can say about the pi thats negative is its performance and the fact that its flash card connector is very brittle, i know, i b0rked mine and need to replace that component lol
  • [20:58:24] <woglinde> mark4 usb is unsuable under higher loads
  • [20:58:38] <mark4> woglinde, on the pi?
  • [20:59:02] <mark4> it only has usb2, for heavy loads yu should be using the eth methinks
  • [20:59:08] <mark4> if it had usb3 that wuld be diff
  • [21:00:27] <woglinde> mark4 yes on the pi
  • [21:00:37] <woglinde> o.O
  • [21:00:43] <woglinde> the eth is connected via usb
  • [21:02:30] <cracker_> <woglinde>ok.javafx and rpi .Would rpi support memory requirement for rich UI
  • [21:04:04] <woglinde> o.O?
  • [21:04:37] <woglinde> cracker you can use the jdk for rpi on most other boards too
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  • [21:06:31] <woglinde> and if you do not make the board mobile you do not have to pay the 0.60 cent royaltie fee
  • [21:06:39] <woglinde> yo crofton
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  • [21:15:14] <cracker_> woglinde rpi uses http://www.broadcom.com/products/BCM2835 and which is a processor with good speed 700Mhz.Not sure then why its called a micro controller project board
  • [21:15:51] <cracker_> Arduino looks more like a micro controller with just a max of 30 kb memory and which would not suit a kiosk
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  • [21:18:55] <woglinde> cracker mru calls the rpi soc an engenerrig test soc
  • [21:20:42] <cracker_> mark woglinde Thanks a lot guyz 4 ur time.Will try to check the features of pi more and will reach out.
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  • [21:49:00] <prp_plague> xo
  • [21:49:08] <prp_plague> XorA ping
  • [21:50:17] <woglinde> hi prp_plague
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  • [22:14:39] <ptan> Does anyone here know where I can find a table of the magic addresses for GPIO under PRU -- e.g. where did 0x4804c000 come from in #define GPIO1 0x4804c000
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  • [22:15:12] <ptan> I've looked a the PRU reference manual and couldn't find it - someone point me to the right document.
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  • [22:16:18] <SpeedEvil> I would search for substrings - for example C000 and 804C
  • [22:16:26] * SpeedEvil hasn't looked into it yet.
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  • [22:16:39] <SpeedEvil> It may well not be related to the PRU, but the underlying chip
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  • [22:17:14] <ptan> SpeedEvil: tried the full address, got nothing, I'm trying the substrings now
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  • [22:17:56] <ptan> SpeedEvil: nada... my googlefu is failing still.
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  • [22:18:29] <ptan> FWIW, I'm working off the code from http://blog.boxysean.com/2012/08/12/first-steps-with-the-beaglebone-pru/
  • [22:18:31] <SpeedEvil> I would like to help you, unfortunately, learning about PRUs is one of the things on my stack.
  • [22:18:41] <SpeedEvil> Shortly after 'buy beagle'
  • [22:18:47] <SpeedEvil> And well after 'install windows'
  • [22:18:51] <ptan> SpeedEvil: lol!!
  • [22:18:57] <SpeedEvil> (the things that stop rain coming in my kitchen)
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  • [22:26:46] <Vaizki> ptan: http://www.ti.com/lit/ug/spruh73i/spruh73i.pdf
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  • [22:28:03] <ptan> Vaizki: Thanks!
  • [22:29:01] <Vaizki> and yes I know you're getting past 150 pages even reading the table of contents ;)
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  • [22:29:20] <Vaizki> Read This First is on page 162
  • [22:30:50] <woglinde> good nite
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  • [22:33:52] <ptan> Vaizki: Wow, that is a large manual!
  • [22:36:39] <Vaizki> well it has a lot of stuff in it
  • [22:37:11] <Vaizki> including the whole memory map
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  • [22:40:37] <mistachkin> I've got a BeagleBone Black. I'm connected to it via SSH. I'm trying to expand the storage using a microSD card using the directions here: http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=MicroSD_As_Extra_Storage (without success so far).... any pointers?
  • [22:40:45] <Vaizki> ptan: and haha there's a link on the page you posted here .. to the manual
  • [22:41:50] <ptan> Vaizki: Yeah, I think I already tried looking through this manual before and I just got lost in it... I still can't find the memory map though, but I'll keep looking through it.
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  • [22:42:39] <Vaizki> ptan: ok wtf it starts at page 168
  • [22:43:23] <mistachkin> I don't have access to the GUI specified on the page; however, I've formatted the microSD card as FAT and placed the specified text file onto it, per the directions.
  • [22:43:48] <ptan> Vaizki: Ok, I'm just blind then -- I keep looking at the GPIO section!! Thanks!
  • [22:44:02] <mistachkin> attempting to power up the BeagleBone Black with the microSD card inserted seems to prevent it from properly booting.
  • [22:44:19] <Vaizki> the gpio section tells you how to use those registers but the memory map tells you where the register is
  • [22:44:54] <Vaizki> mistachkin: I think you have to finetune your uEnv.txt to get it to boot from eMMC even with SD attached
  • [22:45:03] <mistachkin> ok, good tip
  • [22:45:05] <Vaizki> do you have a usb console cabble
  • [22:45:13] <mistachkin> yes, but my OS is Win 7 and it won't work
  • [22:45:15] <ptan> Vaizki: Yeah, I'm just the silly one to think that the memory addresses would be in the GPIO section! At least now, it's starting to make sense!
  • [22:45:16] <mistachkin> tried it last night
  • [22:45:37] <Vaizki> well I wouldn't mess about with uEnv.txt unless you have a working console connection
  • [22:46:03] <mistachkin> but that is not a prerequisite for making it work, I assume?
  • [22:46:09] <Vaizki> ptan: if I remember correctly there are 4 GPIO blocks, each one with registers for 32 pins
  • [22:46:26] <Vaizki> mistachkin: no, but typo something and it won't boot
  • [22:46:45] <mistachkin> is there a man page for the format of the uDev.txt file?
  • [22:46:53] <mistachkin> to indicate which directives are supported, etc.
  • [22:46:54] <Vaizki> not really
  • [22:47:22] <mistachkin> well, I suppose I can fallback to my rubber chicken.
  • [22:48:03] <ptan> Vaizki: Thanks! Found the addresses I needed to generalize my PRU GPIO code to pulse any GPIO
  • [22:49:05] <Vaizki> there's http://www.denx.de/wiki/DULG/Manual of course for uboot (which read uEnv.txt)
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  • [22:49:41] <SpeedEvil> ptan: :)
  • [22:49:54] <Vaizki> I think the problem with some stock uEnv.txt:s is that even if the bootloader (MLO + uboot) come off the eMMC, the uEnv.txt is written so that it will try to load the kernel from a uSD card if one is present
  • [22:50:13] <Vaizki> proably easiest is to google for the magic uEnv.txt fu
  • [22:50:41] <yasirk> okay, this is going to sound very silly, but i can't seem to find 'make' anywhere in my path. I'm running Angstrom 3.8.13 . ultimately i need to get the FFMPEG package somehow.
  • [22:51:02] <yasirk> im completley new to BBB and to linux for that matter
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  • [22:52:51] <mistachkin> Vaizki: thanks...
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  • [23:01:02] <yasirk> anyone?
  • [23:02:33] <OxFFCO> yasirk why do you need ffmpeg on the beagle?
  • [23:02:48] <OxFFCO> couldn't you use mplayer?
  • [23:04:41] <yasirk> Anything would work for the time being, do i use opkg to install mplayer?
  • [23:05:49] <yasirk> okay, tried opkg install mplayer and it failed. libxext6 is not available
  • [23:07:34] <yasirk> ...and it needs libpng12-0 which opkg can't find either.
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  • [23:08:41] <yasirk> Sounds like i'm missing some tools/libraries on my install? FYI, i flashed eMMC using the latest Angstrom build by following the BBB instructions on setup
  • [23:09:02] <OxFFCO> strange, it's on my BBB, can't remember having installed it myself
  • [23:09:39] <yasirk> when i type gcc or make on my console, it doesn't have those in path either. :(
  • [23:09:55] <yasirk> i've already done an opkg update and opkg upgrade
  • [23:13:04] <OxFFCO> I googled this one: http://radarcape.bplaced.net/wiki/doku.php?id=radarcapeapplicationdevelopment#gcc_and_tools_installation_on_beaglebone
  • [23:17:23] <yasirk> Still didn't work--gc-dev didn't install either. Is this a symptom of a corrupted eMMC flash by any chance ?
  • [23:19:56] <yasirk> OxFFCO, thanks for the help though, i have a new path to try
  • [23:20:09] <yasirk> got to turn in for the night, will post back if i make progress. Thanks again.
  • [23:21:09] <OxFFCO> ok, good luck,
  • [23:21:44] <thurgood> I think task-native-sdk is the meta dev package that you want
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  • [23:27:44] <OxFFCO> "task-native-sdk" read that somewhere else too.
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  • [23:44:24] <hogsBBB> how do i flash an microsd image to the eMMC. The image is not a flasher image and runs and boots fine form microSD. what is the procedure using SSH.
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  • [23:45:17] <hogsBBB> https://github.com/slayersoft/MineNinja
  • [23:47:32] <hogsBBB> the link i put in here is the project running right now off the microSD card. I just cant figure out how to move it to my eMMC. the user button procedure does not work, yet I did user button procedure on it before but that image was official flasher image.
  • [23:48:49] <thurgood> maybe you can use tar ... it should preserve all the links
  • [23:50:20] <hogsBBB> here is their instructions: Copy the image file to a microSD car Boot the BeagleBone with the "user" button depressed and the microSD inserted. With the BeagleBone running from the microSD you can now safely flash the eMMc. From your desktop machine you can use a command like this: xz -cd mineninjaBBB.img.xz | ssh root@mineninja.local 'dd of=/dev/mmcblk1 bs=1M'
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  • [23:51:48] <hogsBBB> the thing is, i got the image downloaded as xz and decompressed it into the .img file, then properly flashed my sdcard, then put in my bbb and it ran, but it wont flash over to the eMMC.
  • [23:55:21] <hogsBBB> both the eMMC and the microSD card have duplicate angstrom versions on it, its just that the one on the microSD is the built version. I need to like just copy over everything to the eMMC logically and it should work.