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[02:06:05] <Alviur> Hi can you give some link about how to use the DSP micro from beagleboard c3
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[03:16:07] <m_billybob> ahhhhh rainy weekend
[03:19:17] <mranostay> i hate little endian.....
[03:20:28] <m_billybob> why.
[03:20:46] <m_billybob> i++ -> i--...
[03:21:10] * m_billybob is over simplifying
[03:22:04] <m_billybob> i've actually never delved too deep into endianess
[03:24:26] <mrpackethead> i just think i want to sleep
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[03:25:11] <m_billybob> perfect day here to sleep, its been raining a good part of the day
[03:25:39] <m_billybob> got up at 3:30 am it was raining, went back to sleep at 5am, woke up again at 9 lol
[03:27:41] <mranostay> that isn't funny
[03:27:55] * mranostay is against the overuse of lol
[03:28:30] <m_billybob> maybe not but it made for a great day :P
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[03:28:47] <m_billybob> nice, cool relaxed day
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[04:04:17] <mranostay> m_billybob: yeah almost like france today :)
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[04:23:01] <XFaCE> for the BBB, is Angstrom build 08.20 pretty much safe to use now?
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[04:51:05] <JFK911> was it broken?
[04:51:26] <mranostay> everything is broken
[04:54:31] * mranostay blares Bob Dylan in the room
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[05:28:16] <Vishnu> hi
[05:28:31] <Vishnu> is android OS available for beagle bone black
[05:30:51] <dm8tbr> probably
[05:31:44] <mrpacket_> vishnu. theres an amazing resource on the internet...
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[05:34:49] <mranostay> emeb_mac: FPGA!!!!!!
[05:35:15] <mrpacket_> jsut found a way to upset up wireless network
[05:35:27] <mrpacket_> try sticking 64M of braodcast into it
[05:35:29] <mrpacket_> :-)
[05:35:38] <mranostay> pr0n?
[05:35:44] <emeb_mac> mranostay - how's that logic analyzer board working out?
[05:37:27] <mranostay> ssssh!
[05:38:39] <mrpacket_> logic-anal-cape
[05:38:50] <mrpacket_> laughter-cape
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[05:43:19] <mranostay> ssssh!
[05:43:20] <m_billybob> mranostay, france ? really?!
[05:43:33] <mranostay> m_billybob: my next move i want to do there
[05:43:50] <mranostay> or another country with a horrible work ethics
[05:44:14] <mranostay> want to take my working hours down to 35
[05:44:19] <mranostay> rather than 50 or 60
[05:44:30] <m_billybob> i guess. . .
[05:44:46] <mranostay> m_billybob: blue card i could get a few places in the EU
[05:45:06] <m_billybob> i think im done with europe as far as visiting goes
[05:45:31] <mrpacket_> m_billybob: you've seen it all?
[05:45:32] <mranostay> boo
[05:45:33] <mrpacket_> wow.
[05:45:44] <m_billybob> no ive seen enough
[05:45:44] <mrpacket_> there is so so much to see in Europe
[05:45:52] * mranostay needs to marry a EU citizen...
[05:45:58] <m_billybob> think id rather visit austrailia
[05:46:19] <mrpacket_> m_billybob: how about NZ
[05:46:19] <mrpacket_> what do you know
[05:46:26] <mrpacket_> I'm recruiting
[05:46:31] <mranostay> hehe
[05:46:32] <m_billybob> heh
[05:46:36] <mrpacket_> we can provide a US:kiwi dictionary
[05:46:44] <mrpacket_> we have that now
[05:46:53] <mranostay> mrpacket_: a kiwi livable wage?
[05:46:58] <mrpacket_> in fact, we have it in a US:kiwi:aussie version
[05:47:13] <m_billybob> Probably wouldnt mind visiting NZ either
[05:47:14] <mrpacket_> grill:bbq:barbie
[05:47:24] <mranostay> DMX all things!
[05:47:25] <Vishnu> mr packet can you please tell me a link which you trust more?.
[05:47:42] <mrpacket_> sandle:jandle:thong
[05:47:50] <m_billybob> lol
[05:48:02] <mrpacket_> Vishnu. A link i trust
[05:48:02] <mrpacket_> mmm
[05:48:06] <m_billybob> thing takes on a whole new meaning here in the US
[05:48:13] <m_billybob> thong*
[05:49:30] <mrpacket_> http://microsoft.com and http://apple.com and http://oracle.com <-- all trustworthy
[05:49:34] <mrpacket_> <snigger>
[05:49:40] <m_billybob> watching th movie "the dictator"
[05:49:42] <Vishnu> mr packet pardon me
[05:50:07] <Vishnu> mrpacket thanks i got it
[05:50:44] <mrpacket_> Vishnu: mranostay is the duty support troll right now
[05:50:51] <Vishnu> mrpacket Is this links really going to give some info about android?.
[05:50:51] <mrpacket_> he will be able to assist you
[05:51:08] * mranostay is about to hit the bars
[05:51:08] <m_billybob> google . . .
[05:51:19] <m_billybob> keyword beaglebone android . ..
[05:51:30] <mrpacket_> Vishnu: we dont' do your research for you here
[05:51:50] <mrpacket_> when you demostrated that you've done a resoanble level fo reading and made a fair effort
[05:51:57] <mrpacket_> come back with some specific questions
[05:52:05] <mrpacket_> you'll get a *much* better resposne
[05:52:24] <mrpacket_> the answer you are lookign for would take about 15 seconds with google
[05:53:10] <mrpacket_> its on the *front* page of the beaglebone black product page
[05:53:10] <m_billybob> and, if yo uthink that is harsh, you're in the wrong channel
[05:53:33] <mranostay> beer me. bitch
[05:53:42] * mranostay is in a breaking bad mood
[05:53:52] <mrpacket_> mranostay: did you see the "Android on beagle link"
[05:53:57] <m_billybob> beer yourself
[05:54:03] <mrpacket_> apaprently its written in invisible HTML ink
[05:54:20] <m_billybob> mrpacket_, maybe its in moonrunes
[05:54:37] <mrpacket_> at least its not an opencv question
[05:54:57] <mrpacket_> all opencv, unbuntu and andriod questiosn will incurr a new fee
[05:55:08] <mrpacket_> rule 17
[05:55:13] <m_billybob> how do i get opencv working on beaglebone black running windows8 with node.js as a front end ?
[05:55:38] <m_billybob> Oh, right, need Qt, and pybbio too . . .
[05:55:44] <mrpacket_> m_billybob: oh, you just need a soldering iron and a couple of different resistors
[05:55:48] <mrpacket_> they missed that out of the manual
[05:56:17] <m_billybob> heh
[05:58:14] <m_billybob> its spaceballs time
[05:58:25] <m_billybob> feel like comedy movie night for some reason
[05:59:15] * emeb_mac just watched "A Scanner Darkly" - kinda funny.
[06:00:41] <mrpacket_> right, dinner time
[06:00:49] <mrpacket_> will be made and ready in about 11 minutes
[06:00:56] <m_billybob> think ive watched that but dont remember what it was about
[06:01:23] * m_billybob imdb's
[06:01:49] <emeb_mac> drugs & rotoscope animation
[06:02:03] <m_billybob> oh that movie yeah i got bored of it
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[06:05:40] <m_billybob> hmmm not in the mood for 80's comedy i guess ronal the barbarian maybe
[06:06:33] <mranostay> drugs, rock and roll, and FPGAs
[06:07:14] <m_billybob> wine, adult animated comedy, and ... yeah idk
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[06:12:14] <m_billybob> love this movie lol "man the barracades you lazy bitches . .."
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[06:27:55] <mranostay> beer!!!
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[06:51:11] <_SY_> morning
[06:52:10] <woglinde> gm SY
[06:52:16] <woglinde> early up for sunday
[06:54:01] <mrpackethead> rhubarb!
[06:54:20] <woglinde> mrpackethead working on sunday?
[06:54:28] <mrpackethead> nup
[06:54:43] <mrpackethead> i am sitting in my favorite chair, in front of tv
[06:54:45] <mrpackethead> being a slob
[06:55:45] <woglinde> with beer and chips?
[06:56:07] <mrpackethead> rhubarb crumble
[06:56:12] <mrpackethead> and ice-cream
[06:58:25] <_SY_> hi, sorry, was coding, its 07:58 here...been out and done my daughters paper round :)
[06:59:05] <woglinde> yeah now both kids up here too
[06:59:23] <_SY_> all mine are still in bed
[07:00:52] <_SY_> quite enjoying working with node.js
[07:01:00] <woglinde> haha
[07:02:09] <_SY_> I'm developing a basic SCADA system to run on BBB....in my test set-up I have 64 clients connecting to the units and the units are pushing SVG mimics to the clients with dynamic data updates.
[07:04:35] <mrpackethead> you running a sewage plant?
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[07:06:21] <_SY_> lol...no, I've always been involved with control systems, started out working for a company providing systems for food and medical industries, then later offshore, desigining ROV control systems and then working in control rooms monitoring offshore platforms.
[07:06:48] <_SY_> SCADA systems can be very expensive, I figure if I can write and provide a low cost alternative it has to be worth something...
[07:09:20] <maxinux> you do understand the sorts of thing SCADA systems run, yes?
[07:10:16] <_SY_> yes, of course, I use to configure and set-up SCADA systems back in the late 80's....then in the early 90's I designed a wrote a SCADA system for controlling ROV's.
[07:11:23] <_SY_> SCADA is not to be confused with DCS, the two are very different.
[07:11:42] <_SY_> I've done both, but I'm not proposing or intending to implement DCS functionality.
[07:13:21] <_SY_> I think it would be quite cool to have a SCADA system for home use, where you could monitor things around your own house.
[07:19:16] <jacekowski> SCADA is very similiar to DCS
[07:21:18] <_SY_> not really, SCADA is a single system monitoring remote I/O...a DCS is that and also a complete distributed system where changes can be made on the remote systems via the DCS front end, remote control and localised control, where as SCADA is one system managing everything.
[07:25:53] <maxinux> the sort of thing that scada runs nowadays does not necesitate cheap
[07:28:04] <_SY_> SCADA isn't the control system, so it doesn't really run anything, in most cases the PLC's are the control systems and I agree these aren't cheap...if you look at the most popular SCADA systems, such as Wonderware's intouch its requirements in terms of systems are high...and the software is expensive...what I am writing won't be and will run on far less hardware.
[07:29:27] <mranostay> hi from pub
[07:29:38] <_SY_> :)
[07:29:41] <jacekowski> scada is control system
[07:29:59] <mranostay> this bar sucks tonight
[07:30:03] <jacekowski> supervisory CONTROL and data acquisition
[07:30:32] <mranostay> two meatheats talking about weightlifting
[07:30:48] <_SY_> it can be, but most companies do no rely on SCADA, they don't trust a PC to do that...especially in safety systems. SCADA is more commonly used to provide information and logging and alarms.
[07:31:11] <jacekowski> for safety systems, you use SIL 3 rated stuff
[07:31:15] <jacekowski> or even SIL 4
[07:31:25] <jacekowski> and i'm yet to see DCS that can do that
[07:31:32] <_SY_> I have used SIL 3 for Hima Cella fire and gas safety systems.
[07:32:15] <_SY_> where in a fire system, the PLC's would provide 3oo5 voting and the SCADA system would show the results.
[07:33:29] <jacekowski> for SIL3 you need 1oo2 in most cases
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[07:35:57] <_SY_> it depends entirely on what you are monitoring and how many smoke and flame detectors are employed....I did a F&G system for kazakhstan in 2005 where most of the areas had at least 5 smoke detectors, the C&E diagrams supplied required that at least 3 detectors would be set to require a vote.
[07:36:08] <mrpackethead> mranostay: go and talk to the google girls
[07:36:09] <mrpackethead> not us
[07:37:23] <jacekowski> i can understand ignoring single sensor in that sort of system (some moron with cigaretes)
[07:37:58] <_SY_> the logic was fail safe, so it one of the sensors was down / faulty or offline it was treated as a vote.
[07:38:28] <ka6sox> don't you need a morphing finortinizer?
[07:38:37] <ka6sox> level 8?
[07:38:52] <_SY_> I quite liked working with Hima kit, you programmed the PLC's by drawing the logic diagrams, no code required.
[07:39:11] <_SY_> The programming system was called ELOPII
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[07:43:39] <mrpackethead> hey ka6sox
[07:43:57] <ka6sox> evening mrpackethead
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[07:45:46] <mrpackethead> ka6sox: my google search for rx modules has failed
[07:45:48] <mrpackethead> :-(
[07:45:55] <cxphong> Hello, Can anyone help me how to enable camera cape 3.1 P on BBB? Thanks!
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[07:46:52] <mrpackethead> cxphong: yes
[07:46:58] <mrpackethead> next question
[07:47:08] <cxphong> I had an error: [ 2.348164] cssp-camera 18000000.camera: Got rstctl (gpio:#0 name eMMC_RSTn) label:eMMC_RSTn-CAM3 [ 2.365958] cssp-camera 18000000.camera: CSSP Revision A4 [ 2.371758] cssp-camera 18000000.camera: dma_ch=20 [ 2.376819] cssp-camera 18000000.camera: dma_link[0]=65 [ 2.484722] cssp-camera 18000000.camera: camera sensor configuration failed
[07:47:26] <mrpackethead> cxphong: pastebin
[07:47:42] <ka6sox> pastebin is your friend
[07:47:43] <mrpackethead> dont' paste inband
[07:48:59] <ka6sox> cxphong, what TZ are you in?
[07:49:45] <cxphong> sorry, what does TZ mean?
[07:49:51] <ka6sox> Timezone
[07:50:02] <cxphong> UTC+7
[07:50:04] <ka6sox> because the person who knows about this is not here.
[07:50:33] <ka6sox> I am going to suggest that you paste the output into an email you send to the mailing list.
[07:51:19] <mrpackethead> cxphong, why are you using a webchat client. and not a real irc client
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[07:52:44] <mrpackethead> cxphong: ????????????
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[07:58:28] <mrpackethead> gone.
[07:59:12] <_SY_> have fun, day out at the seaside :), cya
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[08:08:29] <ka6sox> mrpackethead, well..he did as I asked.
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[09:30:15] <vvu> can someone give me a tip where can i find the beagleboard logo in .png format? or at least some images with the logo?
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[09:48:36] <woglinde> vvu beagleboard.org?
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[09:49:04] <vvu> woglinde: they are mostly with background color and i`m not really in the photoshop business
[09:49:26] <vvu> i need a logo for an android app, the launcher icon
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[10:42:18] <flufmnstr> im working on slimming down my kernel and removing things i dont need/wont use. is CAN support something i should leave in? i dont think ill use it, but i dont know if other things depend on it
[10:42:43] <flufmnstr> specifically "CAN bus subsystem support"
[10:44:10] <LetoThe2nd> flufmnstr: just give it a try.
[10:44:20] <flufmnstr> fair enough
[10:44:36] <LetoThe2nd> flufmnstr: if something specifically depends on it, you shouldn't be able to deselct it anyways
[10:44:52] <JViz> has libgles been deprecated?
[10:45:02] <JViz> er
[10:45:06] <LetoThe2nd> flufmnstr: whereas CAN is mostly uncritical, just remove it.
[10:45:06] <JViz> libgles-omap3
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[13:16:19] <nism> just attended the BBB workshop http://www.meetup.com/The-Internet-of-Things/events/136101512/
[13:16:30] <nism> excited by the possibilities of playing with it!
[13:21:15] <KotH> i'm excited too!
[13:21:33] <KotH> but that could be just the amount of coffee i just had
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[15:49:50] <ka6sox> KotH, do you mix coffee and chocolate?
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[15:54:43] <biddut> hi there
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[15:55:21] <biddut> anyone succeeded installing archlinux arm in the eMMC?
[15:56:22] <biddut> or is it installed but requires external power?
[15:56:37] <biddut> to boot?
[15:56:41] <dm8tbr> what?
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[15:57:21] <biddut> extracted archlinuxarm boot loader in p1 arch in p2
[15:57:34] <biddut> in eMMc
[15:57:50] <biddut> but dows nott boot
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[16:00:25] <woglinde> why you need archlinux?
[16:00:39] <derRichard> biddut: connect a uart cable to find out :)
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[16:01:18] <biddut> has more packages ( arch)
[16:02:09] <biddut> i do not have uart cable, I have ssh
[16:02:37] <derRichard> then try too ssh to your bootloader ;)
[16:03:01] <biddut> lol
[16:03:08] <biddut> thats not possible
[16:03:14] <derRichard> no really, if you want to diagnose such an issue you'll need a cable
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[16:04:23] <m_billybob> external power ? arch linux emmc ? huh ?
[16:04:31] <biddut> in that case we can check visuall using a tv ( we r getting into beat-around-the-bush talk)
[16:04:59] <Tenkawa> yeah i'd just hook up the hdmi
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[16:05:34] <ka6sox> biddut, just get a cheap USB/serial cable and hook that up
[16:05:44] <ka6sox> then you get early information from the bootloader
[16:05:57] <Tenkawa> ka6sox: good idea too
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[16:06:09] <dostoyevsky> Hello. It seems as if I got the wrong power adaptor delivered with my BB... 12v instead of 5v. I was wondering why I couldn't turn it on. Is the BB now broken?
[16:06:11] <biddut> so, is there any reason why, the archlinuxarm, stops with 3 leds?, arch running from SD very nice
[16:06:23] <m_billybob> biddut well if you want a better answer, you need to ask your question better. but like woglinde, and ka6sox both said you really need a serial debug interface
[16:06:39] <m_billybob> yeah its called you've not configured you uEnv.txt file properly
[16:07:08] <ka6sox-away> quick poll of the room: How many people here use archlinux on their BBB?
[16:07:24] <Tenkawa> which type of serial physical interface is on the bbb?
[16:07:38] <m_billybob> 3 solid LEDs on boot is almost always going to be a improperly configured uEnv.txt file.
[16:07:47] <m_billybob> ka6sox severla people use it it works
[16:07:51] <biddut> me happy with archlinux arm AS of NOW
[16:08:06] * Tenkawa uses debian or slackware on his bbb
[16:08:20] <m_billybob> biddut this isnt an arch linux issue though, this is an u-boot isse induced by the user.
[16:08:33] <biddut> ok
[16:08:41] <ka6sox-away> m_billybob, +1
[16:08:57] <ka6sox-away> okay out into the world (OMG what will I do?)
[16:09:02] <m_billybob> morning ka6sox-away
[16:09:08] <m_billybob> lol
[16:09:14] * m_billybob waves
[16:09:46] <biddut> I checked the uEnv.txt and fugured out p1 is vfat and p2 ( has to be to) ext4 and extarcted arch as usually I have been doing with the sd cards
[16:09:58] <m_billybob> biddut now when i say the above, i do not mean that disrespectfully.
[16:10:10] <m_billybob> ive been through this stage myself too
[16:10:15] <Tenkawa> i need to go grab a serial debug cable at microcenter heheh
[16:11:12] <m_billybob> biddut anyhow the easy way is to order a serial debug cable, or find a 3v3 ttl uart module. the hard way is reconfigure your uEnv.txt file and keep chaing it until you get it right
[16:11:42] <m_billybob> second option is how i went about it
[16:11:59] <biddut> i can mount eMMC from sd, come on
[16:12:25] <biddut> its 123 for me to edit uEnv.txt
[16:12:47] <Tenkawa> will this guy work? http://www.microcenter.com/product/389825/FTDI_Basic_Programmer_33V_-_USB_to_Serial
[16:12:55] <m_billybob> try reading this biddut
[16:12:57] <m_billybob> http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#BeagleBoneBlack-eMMC
[16:13:06] <m_billybob> debian centric but should be similar if not the same
[16:13:37] <m_billybob> he talks about how to proerly setup the eMMC, or did last i read it
[16:13:41] <biddut> 1. i boot archlinux arm from mmc external 2. mount /dev/mmcblk1p1 /mnt 2. cd /mnt 4. vi uEnv.txt
[16:14:18] <Tenkawa> will that ftdi work for serial debugging?
[16:15:19] <woglinde> tenkawa -> http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBone_Black_Serial
[16:15:21] <biddut> who ever buying this ftdi cable are going to use it for 3 or four time in the lifetime of bbb
[16:15:23] <biddut> lol
[16:16:12] <m_billybob> maybe, maybe not
[16:16:12] <biddut> hey bbb guyz, u need help or not?
[16:16:40] <Tenkawa> woglinde: i read it however the only one
[16:16:42] <Tenkawa> er
[16:16:51] <Tenkawa> local is that link i just sent
[16:16:59] * vvu uses his debug cable everyday to catch pesky bugs
[16:17:36] <m_billybob> i use an msp430 launchpad on my serial debug port. butonly because i dont have a 3v3 FTDI module *yet*
[16:18:33] <Tenkawa> i am going to be trying tricky stuff with my kernel tuning and thats really the only debug output i'm going to be able to get
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[16:23:57] <Tenkawa> bbl...cheers all
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[16:24:15] <biddut> beagle board is good, only us progreammers will enjoy, whose number is very small, but could make BBB very useful and famous, BBB ppl can contact me for my opinion
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[16:39:44] <dostoyevsky> Has the BB any kind of protection against using it with the wrong voltage?
[16:40:35] <ka6sox-away> no
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[16:41:29] <dostoyevsky> ok.. So I will send the BB straight back to the shop that sent it to me with the wrong power adaptor
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[16:42:39] <biddut> there is no one here from BBB, we the users helping each other
[16:42:53] <ka6sox-away> dostoyevsky, what voltage did they send?
[16:43:03] <biddut> 12v
[16:43:34] <ka6sox-away> p00f
[16:43:40] <dostoyevsky> ka6sox-away: 12V/1.5 A instead of 5v, 3A
[16:44:10] <biddut> no built in regulator like lm7805?
[16:44:45] <ka6sox-away> yes, the PMIC does 3.3 but its not good for input of 12v
[16:45:05] <ka6sox-away> bbl
[16:46:03] <dostoyevsky> biddut: You mean in the power adaptor?
[16:46:25] <dostoyevsky> On the bill they say they sent me this one: http://www.lextronic.fr/P4030-bloc-secteur-a-decoupage-5-vcc--3-a.html
[16:46:26] <biddut> in the board
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[16:46:44] <dostoyevsky> But the one I actually got was that one: http://www.lextronic.fr/P4032-bloc-secteur-a-decoupage-12-vcc--15-a.html
[16:47:26] <biddut> wao
[16:47:35] <biddut> p00f it is
[16:47:42] <dostoyevsky> Yeah :-(
[16:48:08] <biddut> sent back after p00fing LOL
[16:50:47] <biddut> 5x3=15va 12x15=60vA!!!
[16:51:07] <dostoyevsky> 12x1.5
[16:51:27] <biddut> oic
[16:51:39] <dostoyevsky> 18va
[16:51:46] <biddut> hmm
[16:52:17] <dostoyevsky> hmmm... maybe I buy a new power adaptor tomorrow and try if it still works before sending it back
[16:52:35] <dostoyevsky> 15 vs 18... maybe not too much to break anything
[16:53:07] <biddut> use USB mobile chrager/connector
[16:53:24] <biddut> with mini usb
[16:53:50] <biddut> beside net port
[16:54:43] <dostoyevsky> Ah... just tried it. I see a green light :)
[16:55:51] <biddut> enjoy
[16:56:07] <dostoyevsky> Yeah :)
[16:56:15] <dostoyevsky> biddut: Thanks!
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[16:58:02] <dostoyevsky> Now I just need to figure out how I could create the SDHC image for ALA on my Mac... I only know this: http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv7/ti/beaglebone .... but I don't know if I can do "mkfs.ext4" and "mkfs.vfat"...
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[17:05:24] <biddut> lucky u did not go for another expenses
[17:06:30] <biddut> in mac i never used I do not know
[17:06:45] <biddut> can u get to term?
[17:06:52] <biddut> in mac>
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[17:08:18] <dostoyevsky> Yes... And you have fdisk etc... I can even create msdos fs (not sure if VFat, though) ... but ext4 I can't...
[17:08:58] <dostoyevsky> Luckily I also got a RPI, so I can use it to create the sdhc stick for the BB :)
[17:09:03] <biddut> vfat fs type is e
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[17:09:17] <biddut> oic
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[17:12:07] <biddut> i am having probelm putting arch in the eMMC
[17:12:17] <biddut> booting problem
[17:12:24] <biddut> still working on it
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[17:18:59] <dostoyevsky> > eMMC is an embedded non-volatile memory system, comprised of both flash memory and a flash memory controller integrated on the same silicon die.
[17:19:24] <dostoyevsky> Are these ARM based?
[17:19:43] <biddut> bbb yes
[17:21:04] <dostoyevsky> ah... bb has an onboard eMMC... ic
[17:22:04] <biddut> bbb does not need anything, eMMc boots to armstrong linux
[17:22:23] <biddut> straight
[17:22:59] <biddut> login root password none
[17:24:15] <biddut> u can use provided usb cable to connect using your browser too 192.168.1.7
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[17:25:10] <biddut> or 192.168.2.7
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[17:36:16] <dostoyevsky> biddut: I can't see any network activity from the BB when I turn it on... the RPI does dhcp requests immediately when I switch it on... but the BB does nothing... maybe it's yet broken
[17:36:54] <biddut> do u c all the 4 leds blinking madly or not?
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[17:38:49] <dostoyevsky> biddut: no, nothings blinking. I just see a green light at the usb...
[17:39:36] <biddut> it works for me from my notebook
[17:40:33] <dostoyevsky> Yeah, I think I probably broke the BB with the wrong power adaptor... Everything works over the same network cable with the RPI...
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[17:49:25] <mranostay> mru: orientation challenge?
[17:51:12] <emeb_mac> fly all the way to swede-land to get lost on purpose.
[17:51:28] * mranostay shouldn't be up already
[17:51:44] <mranostay> went to bed at 5a...
[17:51:48] <woglinde> mranostay why?
[17:52:47] <mranostay> woglinde: friends apartmentand such
[17:55:54] <woglinde> mranostay you are chatting from his pc?
[17:56:36] <mranostay> woglinde: same building so i just had to work the elevator
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[18:05:44] <mranostay> emeb_mac: btw verilog seems so weird
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[18:05:55] <emeb_mac> mranostay: :)
[18:06:06] <emeb_mac> everything is parallel!
[18:06:41] <emeb_mac> if you think Verilog is weird, try VHDL.
[18:07:05] <Humpelstilzchen> you don't like vhdl?
[18:07:29] <emeb_mac> I like VHDL just fine - more than I did 2 years ago. :P
[18:07:43] <emeb_mac> it's just a lot stranger than Verilog.
[18:08:06] <Humpelstilzchen> Probably depends on where you come from
[18:08:48] <emeb_mac> I always say: if you like C you'd like Verilog. if you like Ada you'd like VHDL.
[18:09:05] <mranostay> what if i like nodejs?
[18:09:38] <emeb_mac> then here's a lollipop - I think I hear your mother calling.
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[18:10:58] <Humpelstilzchen> I would have put vhdl closer to C then verilog, but ok..
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[18:12:03] <agmlego> What?
[18:12:12] <emeb_mac> lately the thing that bothers me most about VHDL is that it's case insensitive
[18:12:16] <agmlego> No, VHDL explicitly inherited syntax from Ada.
[18:12:27] <agmlego> Verilog explicitly uses C syntax when possible.
[18:12:54] <emeb_mac> just wish begin / end were braces.
[18:13:00] <emeb_mac> LIKE THEY SHOULD BE!!!
[18:13:29] <Humpelstilzchen> you don't need braces nor begin end :)
[18:13:39] <emeb_mac> you funny man
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[18:30:00] <woglinde> tabs is all you need
[18:32:59] <emeb_mac> python dude
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[18:42:54] <JViz> since omap3-sgx-modules and libgles-omap3 don't work with anything newer than linx 3.2 on the bon, is there a replacement? or just no accelerated 3D support?
[18:43:09] <JViz> *linux, *bone
[18:44:05] <woglinde> nope
[18:44:26] <woglinde> only mesa egl software rendering
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[18:49:09] <seg9585> hello, I'm using a BBB on default firmware with the beaglecode js coding interface, and can only access two PWM pins (P9_14 and P8_13). When I try to run a analogWrite() on any other pins, I get a runtime error
[18:49:32] <seg9585> does anyone know if there is anything special I need to do to access the other PWM pins?
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[18:55:23] <dm8tbr> maybe they are not muxed?
[18:55:52] <mranostay> mux all things!
[18:56:08] <emeb_mac> all muxed up
[18:58:46] <seg9585> you mean set the pin to OUTPUT, etc?
[18:58:57] <seg9585> pinMode?
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[19:01:48] <mranostay> yes
[19:03:13] <_av500_> I hate muxing
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[19:03:29] <woglinde> av500 why?
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[19:06:07] <JViz> woglinde, is there anything in the newer kernels worth giving up accelerated 3D for?
[19:06:37] <woglinde> JViz hm do not know
[19:06:45] <seg9585> This does NOT work: b.pinMode('P9_16', b.OUTPUT); b.analogWrite('P9_16',pwmvalue2,1000,printout);
[19:06:50] <JViz> i'll probably stick with the other kernel then
[19:07:04] <seg9585> casues a runtime error. When I comment out the analogWrite line, the code runs
[19:07:09] <JViz> *older
[19:07:09] <woglinde> JViz if you need 3d thsn yes
[19:07:33] <JViz> woglinde, I don't think it's needed, but probably preferred
[19:09:00] <woglinde> JViz you maybee need to look out for security bugs
[19:09:49] <derRichard> JViz: what 3.2 tree are you using?
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[19:11:07] <JViz> 3.2.28
[19:11:20] <derRichard> tree, not version :)
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[19:11:48] <derRichard> https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/tree/beagleboard-3.2 <-- this one?
[19:12:46] <JViz> i don't know, whatever angstrom used
[19:12:58] <mranostay> angstrom all things!
[19:13:44] <derRichard> JViz: you don't use a beagleboneblack then?
[19:13:50] <JViz> not yet
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[19:16:58] <JViz> isn't the BBB just a hardware revision?
[19:20:18] <derRichard> i don't think so
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[19:22:05] <mranostay> JViz: revision?
[19:22:10] <mranostay> it is a completely new board
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[19:28:28] <KotH> ka6sox-away: sure, one piece of good chocolate with every coffee
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[19:29:22] <derRichard> JViz: just look at the device tree changes
[19:30:56] <mranostay> KotH: does it have to be good coffee as well?
[19:30:58] <Defhammer> Is it possible for the PRUSS module to control the ehrpwm modules indenpendently of the ARM processor
[19:31:22] <Defhammer> ?
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[19:33:07] <KotH> mranostay: i'm not talking about this surrogate substitute of bitter brown liquid you call coffee... neither of that mind bleach people drink here in central europe
[19:33:37] <KotH> Defhammer: read the TRM
[19:34:06] <emeb_mac> don't forget most chocolate here is also lame
[19:34:27] <m_billybob> Defhammer read the Spruh73c <--- specifically
[19:34:32] <KotH> emeb_mac: what chocolate?
[19:34:41] <mranostay> emeb_mac: what is wrong we the chocolate we gots?
[19:34:46] <m_billybob> Spruh73h does not have PRU info in it
[19:34:47] <mranostay> *with
[19:34:49] <emeb_mac> KotH: just so.
[19:35:08] <KotH> mranostay: did you have some of the chocolate i brought with me in barcelona?
[19:35:23] <emeb_mac> mranostay: most chocolate sold in the US is not as good as European stuff.
[19:35:32] <KotH> mranostay: the stuff that even ka6sox's wife would sell her husband for?
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[19:41:15] <Defhammer> I assume you mean the AM335X_TRM
[19:44:13] <mranostay> KotH: no i don't recall
[19:44:52] <mranostay> KotH: how much chocolate would she get for selling ka6sox-away into white slavery?
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[19:46:42] <emeb_mac> white chocolate. meh.
[19:47:16] <KotH> technically speaking, white chocolate isnt chocolate
[19:47:34] <KotH> mranostay: probably not much
[19:47:38] <emeb_mac> you got that right bro.
[19:47:49] <KotH> emeb_mac: i still like it though :)
[19:49:31] <KotH> when i was a small kid like mranostay, it was my favorite "chocolate" :)
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[19:51:52] <emeb_mac> KotH: yep - sweeter.
[19:52:02] <KotH> not by much
[19:52:19] <KotH> it contains a lot more fat which carries the taste better
[19:52:54] <emeb_mac> that's why they use it in those Kinder ??berraschung.
[19:53:21] <emeb_mac> (banned in USA for your safety!)
[19:53:28] <mranostay> heh
[19:53:35] <emeb_mac> (won't someone please think of the children)
[19:53:36] <mranostay> dumb kids
[19:53:58] <emeb_mac> (children who can't tell when they have non-food in their mouths)
[19:54:06] <KotH> emeb_mac: huh?
[19:54:09] <KotH> emeb_mac: banned?
[19:54:12] <KotH> wtf?
[19:54:13] <emeb_mac> KotH: ya
[19:54:22] <mranostay> KotH: can't sell food with toys that you can choke on
[19:54:23] <dm8tbr> KotH: food that contains parts that are not food
[19:54:26] <emeb_mac> FDA banned them here because kids might swallow the toy.
[19:54:46] <KotH> mranostay: same here, that's why parents are advised not to give it to children below the age of 3 or so
[19:55:20] <emeb_mac> wonder what they do about Cracker Jack prizes.
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[19:55:49] <dm8tbr> emeb_mac: maybe they make them too large to swallow?
[19:55:57] <mranostay> http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/news/us-ban-of-kinder-eggs-cracked-at-last-8539723.html
[19:57:13] <KotH> *sigh*
[19:57:15] <emeb_mac> hallelujah!
[19:57:25] <KotH> regulations like this make pizza a vegetable
[19:57:29] <emeb_mac> civilization can now continue
[19:58:20] <dm8tbr> KotH: certainly doesn't contain any meat
[19:58:21] <mranostay> ah pizza ia vegetable?
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[19:58:29] <mranostay> *is a
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[19:59:16] <dm8tbr> mranostay: http://www.thejournal.ie/us-congress-rules-that-pizza-is-a-vegetable-282033-Nov2011/
[20:00:36] <mranostay> heh funny thing tomatos aren't vegetables
[20:00:56] <KotH> who cares about such petty details
[20:00:57] <mranostay> farm subisies pay more
[20:01:06] <mranostay> for vegetables than fruit
[20:03:42] <emeb_mac> uncle sam's thumb on the scale again?
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[20:06:04] <derRichard> the ti 3.2 sdk will never support hdmi on the bbb, is that correct?
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[20:06:50] <LaXiS96> Hi guys
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[20:11:40] <LaXiS96> Does anyone know why on the Bone Black (running Ubuntu 13.04 with 3.8.13-bone24 kernel) there are only 2 I2C buses in /sys/bus/devices? The former is connected to I2C0 (internal communication, PMIC) and the latter to I2C2, creating a bit of confusion to newbies like me. Anyone has figured out why?
[20:12:08] <LaXiS96> This way I2C1 is not accessible.
[20:14:33] <LaXiS96> Moreover, does this mean developers wanted us not to use I2C1?
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[20:17:50] <JViz> LaXiS96, i2c1 is probably a pinmux config
[20:19:13] <JViz> LaXiS96, what I mean, is that it probably technically exists, but the pins are being used for a different device
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[20:22:02] <LaXiS96> JViz, I see, but do you think that if I change the pin mux settings to the I2C1 modes (_SDA, _SCL) for pin 17 and 18 on P9, then sysfs will add the relative device file?
[20:22:37] <mranostay> prpplague: heh so G+ doesn't watch football?
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[20:23:40] * mru does not
[20:24:11] <JViz> LaXiS96, yes, probably
[20:24:17] <mranostay> mru: even the real football?
[20:25:24] <mru> neither foot* nor *ball
[20:25:47] <LaXiS96> JViz, on the Net I see people speaking about i2c-1, i2c-2 and i2c-3 which map to I2C0, I2C1 and I2C2 respectively whereas I only have i2c-0 and i2c-1 which map to I2C0 and I2C2 respectively.
[20:26:51] <JViz> LaXiS96, you probably need to edit the board support package when building the kernel
[20:27:10] <JViz> *for building the kernel
[20:27:17] <mranostay> what you need on i2c1?
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[20:27:39] <LaXiS96> JViz, I'm not ready to build a kernel yet
[20:28:31] <mranostay> the hell i can't order online on a sunday
[20:28:44] * mranostay needs foodstuffs
[20:29:02] <JViz> the board support package sets the default pinmux and enumerates the devices
[20:29:04] <LaXiS96> mranostay, I do not really need it, I just would like to know why I2C1 signals are routed to the expansion connector (pin 17 and 18 on P9) if I can't then access the bus
[20:29:38] <JViz> last time i looked at it, it was a giant set of nested if statement too
[20:32:43] <mranostay> KotH: should i bring Hershey's into the UK for you?
[20:32:50] <LaXiS96> JViz, I am beginning to hate my BBB because of this much misinformation... On the SRM they don't mention anything about I2C in userspace, not even in the AM335x Technical Reference Manual...
[20:33:35] <LaXiS96> It's such a powerful weapon, but it drives you nuts while trying to get it to work.
[20:33:52] <KotH> mranostay: if you can get them past customs
[20:34:20] <KotH> mranostay: but i'd say they will be confiscated for being chocolate like weapons of mass destruction
[20:35:09] <LaXiS96> JViz, I read that they usually use I2C2 (that is i2c-1 in my case) to read the EEPROM present in Bone Capes. This may be a problem in case of address conflict.
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[20:35:57] <LaXiS96> BTW, JViz thanks for your help, I'm waiting further response if you're willing to.
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[20:39:25] <JViz> LaXiS96, sup?
[20:39:34] <JViz> I'm going to be leaving soon
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[20:40:46] <JViz> ok then
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[20:44:01] <friz25> hello all
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[20:52:40] * mranostay hates that political calls are exempt from the do not call list...
[20:56:01] <prpplague> mranostay: apparently not
[20:57:17] <mranostay> prpplague: btw football is a big deal in Texas :P
[20:57:36] <prpplague> mranostay: yes i know it is
[20:57:36] <dm8tbr> mranostay: you mean us-handegg?
[20:58:35] <mranostay> prpplague: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1632220-the-most-expensive-high-school-football-stadium-in-america
[20:58:42] <mranostay> what is wrong with your state? :)
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[20:59:25] <KotH> its mental state
[20:59:30] <KotH> ;)
[20:59:53] <prpplague> mranostay: just trying to figure out how to best help my son, since i have no experience with this
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[21:00:34] <mranostay> prpplague: this high school?
[21:01:13] <prpplague> yea, he's a freshman
[21:07:55] <_av500_> well, you are supposed to throw balls with him in the back yard
[21:08:04] <_av500_> ever since he was 3ys old...
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[21:10:29] <mranostay> prpplague: well he shouldn't have trouble with the girls being on the football team
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[21:12:07] <prpplague> mranostay: hehe he doesn't have any trouble with that now
[21:12:27] <prpplague> _av500_: hehe, i am sure there are some folks that have done that, but we aren't one of them, hehe
[21:13:39] <_av500_> then you need to do it the other way, find somebody with a high skill level and buy his character
[21:18:31] <prpplague> hehe
[21:19:06] <prpplague> _av500_: just be happy with a good suggestion on how to help him learn his playbook
[21:24:33] <mranostay> prpplague: we can troll you at best here
[21:24:54] <prpplague> indeed
[21:25:00] * prpplague is very trollable
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[21:50:53] <mranostay> prpplague: that is what we love about you though
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[22:02:11] <brm> Hi Guys, Anyone know how to debug kernel drivers in eclipse/yocto plugin?
[22:03:53] <mranostay> oh god
[22:07:12] <brm> please do not use His name in vain ..
[22:07:57] <_av500_> oh dammit
[22:08:24] <brm> better
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[22:09:41] <brm> mranostay: So something more helpful?
[22:10:30] <_av500_> printk
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[22:11:17] <_av500_> and why His name? my god is a she
[22:13:43] <_av500_> and she would not mind anyway
[22:13:46] <brm> av500: Then you have it all wrong .... God doesn't have a sex ... just Generically refered to as He in the Bible, as us humans don't have a concept of no gender ..
[22:14:34] <brm> ... so back to Linux ....
[22:14:41] <_av500_> god, yes please
[22:18:42] <brm> ok, I will come back when there is more intelligence on the net ;) could be awhile ...
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[22:23:03] <_av500_> it will evolve over time
[22:23:25] <_av500_> in the mean time, use printk
[22:26:04] <vvu> _av500_: had time to test my project ? :)
[22:26:22] <_av500_> sigh
[22:26:23] <_av500_> no
[22:26:26] <_av500_> all wekkend taken :(
[22:27:24] <vvu> did some improvements to the app...more stable now and more noob-proof
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[22:29:22] <_av500_> good
[22:29:51] <vvu> i would really want you to check my stuff, at least a sneak peak to see if i`m going in a good direction
[22:34:02] <vvu> _av500_: should i start checking if the app works with android running on a BBB?
[22:35:07] <_av500_> yes
[22:35:52] <vvu> how can i dump the entire eMMC on a uSD?
[22:36:17] <vvu> sudo dd if= of=/dev/mmcblk1 , what goes at if ? /dev/mmcblk0 ?
[22:39:10] <_av500_> yes
[22:39:23] <_av500_> mount will tell you
[22:39:29] <_av500_> what "drives" you have
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[22:40:10] <endder> hello
[22:40:19] <vvu> perfect..i will make now a dump of a fresh eMMC...after running the eMMC flasher
[22:40:20] <endder> can any body read me?
[22:40:31] <_av500_> no
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[22:41:04] <endder> i am new today in beaglebone and i am trying to update the sofware
[22:41:26] <endder> how can i see which software version i have installed before installing the new one
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[22:45:35] <endder00> hello
[22:45:40] <endder00> can u read me?
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[22:59:37] <ion> In rust, src/rt/arch/arm/record_sp.S contains ???// First, try to read TLS address from coprocessor??? ???mrc p15, #0, r3, c13, c0, #3??? which seems to result in a crash with ???Illegal instruction??? on my Beagle Bone (running Debian) <https://gist.github.com/ion1/6336759>. The developer said he has successfully executed that instruction on four different Arm devices. Ideas, anyone?
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[23:04:08] <blaaa> ion: no idea, could it be a compiler flag?
[23:04:21] <blaaa> related to hard/soft fp or whatever?
[23:05:24] <ion> Dunno. But that???s an asm source file and that instruction goes into the library verbatim.
[23:12:13] <blaaa> strange, is it a documented instruction for the BeagleBone processor's instruction set? References for that should be available I suppose
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[23:16:57] <ion> Some google results are hinting that it might only be available in kernel space ??? which makes me wonder why it does work on many other systems.
[23:19:27] <ion> Plenty of am335x kernel code seems to be using mrc.
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[23:44:12] * mranostay hands out hugs
[23:44:26] * mranostay looks for _av500_
[23:44:34] * prpplague runs
[23:44:58] <mranostay> prpplague: no offense but i think i can catch up :P
[23:46:36] <prpplague> mranostay: i am faster than i look
[23:46:52] <prpplague> (even after a bottle of rum)
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[23:54:44] <mranostay> prpplague: why you toss the bottle at pursuers?
[23:56:30] <mranostay> ok whew found beagleborad.png
[23:56:38] <mranostay> and no that isn't a typo
[23:56:56] <ion> beagleborat
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[23:57:54] <mranostay> yes but that isn't a funny