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  • [00:05:41] <georgem_home> thurgood: He said to his german captive that was trembling in horror. "What are you afraid of?" ... "I'm afraid you're going to torture me." ... "I could torture you to get useful information from you and save the lives of my brothers but I won't" ... "Why not?" ... "Because that would make me like you."
  • [00:06:19] <thurgood> ouch
  • [00:07:30] <thurgood> I can't attest to the veracity, but we were told that torture rarely gives quality info when I was in the military
  • [00:08:09] <thurgood> so even from a pragmatic standpoint, it's not the best way to go
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  • [00:08:51] <thurgood> although that' something of an aside from the current situation
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  • [00:37:48] <Tenkawa> so. has anyone tried to see how painfully slow x264 encoding would be on a bbb?
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  • [00:46:25] <georgem_home> Tenkawa: no, but I can imagine based on previous experience. Encoding x264 without hardware support requires serious CPU horse power
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  • [00:49:13] <emocakes> would be cool to make a cape with x264
  • [00:49:14] <emocakes> :p
  • [00:49:21] <emocakes> i know some cameras have it
  • [00:49:28] <emocakes> so the camera does all the encoding
  • [00:49:41] <emocakes> then you can record 1080p no sweat on the bbb
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  • [00:51:28] <ds2> why do you want to record 1080p?
  • [00:51:39] <ds2> do you have a display for it?
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  • [01:02:30] <bradfa> evening, channel
  • [01:02:37] <georgem_home> heya, whats up
  • [01:02:54] <georgem_home> Anchor Porter here...
  • [01:03:07] * bradfa is troubleshotting test fixtures in china, sans beverage of choice
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  • [01:03:46] <georgem_home> okay... and what is the trouble?
  • [01:03:57] <bradfa> georgem_home, dunno, they complain that nothing works
  • [01:03:58] <bradfa> :)
  • [01:04:17] <bradfa> should be a fun evening, time to get coffees, brb
  • [01:04:20] <georgem_home> yeah... I've been through that before
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  • [01:04:51] <georgem_home> What are you making a test fixture for? A CPU board? cape?
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  • [01:08:41] <georgem_home> bradfa: guess you don't need any help :P
  • [01:09:13] <das_plague> georgem_home: bradfa needs help, mainly the kind shrinks provide, hehe
  • [01:09:53] * das_plague jokes with bradfa
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  • [01:10:02] <georgem_home> das_plague: I fancy myself a renaissance man I might be able to assist.
  • [01:10:17] <das_plague> georgem_home: hehe
  • [01:10:20] <bradfa> georgem_home, for active rfid tags
  • [01:10:29] <bradfa> das_plague, yeah, that too :)
  • [01:12:09] <georgem_home> don't know too much more about rfid tags other than that I need to put my passport and benjamins in the microwave for 30 seconds before going anywhere dangerous.
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  • [01:13:33] <bradfa> georgem_home, those are passive tags :) active gets > 100 m range
  • [01:13:47] <bradfa> but we do passive tags too
  • [01:13:56] <bradfa> have one that does 30 m range
  • [01:14:04] <bradfa> privacy?
  • [01:14:06] <bradfa> :)
  • [01:14:46] <SpeedEvil> You mean using some sort of driver chip - or basically SDR?
  • [01:15:00] <bradfa> SpeedEvil, no sdr, that's too expensive
  • [01:15:10] <bradfa> active tags have something like cc430 or cc1101 and micro inside
  • [01:15:16] <SpeedEvil> Not in addition to the pi
  • [01:15:18] <SpeedEvil> an
  • [01:15:25] <SpeedEvil> beagle
  • [01:15:33] <SpeedEvil> Ah - bidirectional.
  • [01:15:36] <bradfa> passive tag have something like http://www.impinj.com/Monza_X_RFID_Chips.aspx inside
  • [01:15:45] <SpeedEvil> yeah - I know.
  • [01:15:57] <georgem_home> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBwV_HdCxIA
  • [01:16:10] <SpeedEvil> So a cc* on I2C on a board, basically, with some antenna connections?
  • [01:16:31] <bradfa> SpeedEvil, mostly, yes
  • [01:16:33] <bradfa> and battery
  • [01:16:42] <SpeedEvil> I mean for the beagle side
  • [01:16:46] <bradfa> georgem_home, rfid, oh noes! :)
  • [01:16:50] <bradfa> SpeedEvil, oh, no beagle in these
  • [01:17:05] <SpeedEvil> I thought you said you were making a beagle sh...
  • [01:17:05] <SpeedEvil> ah
  • [01:17:06] <ka6sox> bradfa, have you played with a cc3300?
  • [01:17:08] <SpeedEvil> never mind.
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  • [01:17:20] <bradfa> ka6sox, no, but we're looking at cc3000 (I think) for wifi
  • [01:17:29] * bradfa googles cc3300
  • [01:17:32] <ka6sox> (sorry, got my models worng)
  • [01:17:39] <SpeedEvil> bradfa: I'm involved with another group doing 500km+ on 10mW/433MHz. :)
  • [01:17:49] <bradfa> SpeedEvil, which group?
  • [01:18:01] <SpeedEvil> ##highaltitude
  • [01:18:02] <bradfa> SpeedEvil, our active tags are 433 MHz at 1mW
  • [01:18:06] <SpeedEvil> uk high altitude.
  • [01:18:10] <bradfa> cool
  • [01:18:18] <SpeedEvil> Line of sight is magic.
  • [01:18:27] <bradfa> as is altitude for rf :)
  • [01:18:42] <SpeedEvil> You get a long line of sight at 40km :)
  • [01:18:45] <ds2> SpeedEvil: what is the operating authority? ISM? Ham?
  • [01:18:50] <SpeedEvil> ISM
  • [01:18:51] <bradfa> ISM for 433 usually
  • [01:18:56] * ka6sox swaps the tags with 1kW
  • [01:18:56] <m_billybob> question in order to enable pinctrl, with 3.8 is this a module or a DT overlay ?
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  • [01:19:00] <SpeedEvil> ds2: It's illegal in the UK to do ham airborne.
  • [01:19:01] <bradfa> gotta go, skype call fixin times
  • [01:19:04] <ka6sox> s/swaps/swamps/
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  • [01:19:33] <ds2> SpeedEvil: so this is pirate radio DX?
  • [01:19:44] <georgem_home> SpeedEvil: what?
  • [01:19:46] <SpeedEvil> ds2: No - it's ISM - not ham.
  • [01:19:49] <ds2> SpeedEvil: is EME allowed in the UK?
  • [01:19:51] <ka6sox> Radio SpeedEvil
  • [01:20:16] <SpeedEvil> ds2: You can't use your ham licence for airborne equipment.
  • [01:20:27] <georgem_home> ah. got it
  • [01:20:35] <m_billybob> ka6sox what you want to do wit ha cc3000 ?
  • [01:21:02] <ka6sox> make the PRU talk to it...so we can have fast WiFi
  • [01:21:11] <ds2> SpeedEvil: that is interesting... in the US, RC aircraft is allowed on ham
  • [01:21:32] <SpeedEvil> ds2: yeah - US uses APRS for balloons in general.
  • [01:21:34] <aps> is there an alternate method of getting the master handle than spi_busnum_to_master(busnum);?
  • [01:21:37] <m_billybob> ka6sox, why not just go with a dedicated module ?
  • [01:22:09] <SpeedEvil> ds2: We've actually evolved our own wacky centralised reciever with often a dozen or more recievers for any flight in england.
  • [01:22:27] <georgem_home> This talk of RC aircraft is making me jealous.
  • [01:22:27] <SpeedEvil> centralised server.
  • [01:22:34] <SpeedEvil> Balloons, actually.
  • [01:22:48] <SpeedEvil> Including a funky live predictor of where a balloon at x000m will go.
  • [01:23:04] <m_billybob> ka6sox there is this one inexpensive module I dotn recall the name off hand has a built in stack etc already
  • [01:23:13] <SpeedEvil> Several Pis have been flown - I don't know if the beagle has.
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  • [02:03:05] <bradfa> m_billybob, cc3000 has stack inside, iirc
  • [02:05:18] <m_billybob> bradfa so does the wiznet module
  • [02:05:21] <m_billybob> hardwired
  • [02:05:49] <bradfa> wiznet?
  • [02:05:58] <m_billybob> wiznet stuff at least the stuff i know of can even be run without and OS which is handy
  • [02:06:20] <bradfa> cc3000 is targetted at micros that want wifi, iirc
  • [02:06:22] <bradfa> similar idea
  • [02:06:25] <bradfa> seems like
  • [02:06:46] <m_billybob> http://www.wiznet.co.kr/Sub_Modules/kr/
  • [02:07:36] <bradfa> m_billybob, neat, I'll check it out
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  • [02:07:45] <bradfa> we have need for wifi on cortex-m0 or msp430 possibly coming up
  • [02:07:56] <bradfa> thanks!
  • [02:08:13] <m_billybob> np
  • [02:08:35] <bradfa> gtg again, more china help is required
  • [02:08:50] <m_billybob> thats korean comcpany i think
  • [02:08:57] <m_billybob> oh lmao yeah ok
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  • [02:10:34] <m_billybob> um wow
  • [02:10:36] <m_billybob> http://www.wiznet.co.kr/Sub_Modules/kr/product/Product_Detail.asp?cate1=5&cate2=43&cate3=0&pid=1173
  • [02:10:40] <m_billybob> never seen that before
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  • [02:23:41] <keatont> Wow the BBB is fast.
  • [02:24:30] <emocakes> very
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  • [02:24:49] <keatont> Just got Debian installed on mine.
  • [02:25:05] <emocakes> got a link to the imge you used?
  • [02:25:06] <m_billybob> how you like ?
  • [02:25:12] <keatont> m_billybob, so far so good.
  • [02:25:19] <m_billybob> most likely robert nelsons
  • [02:25:28] <keatont> emocakes: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian#eMMC:_BeagleBone_Black
  • [02:25:30] <m_billybob> same one i linked you to the other night emeb_mac
  • [02:25:41] <keatont> yep Robert Nelsons :)
  • [02:25:47] <m_billybob> err emocakes
  • [02:25:49] <m_billybob> lol
  • [02:25:50] <emocakes> err m_billybob
  • [02:25:51] <emocakes> :p
  • [02:26:03] <emeb_mac> too many em* nicks
  • [02:26:13] <keatont> lol
  • [02:26:27] <m_billybob> emeb_mac yeah i was about to say you're always getting in the way :P
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  • [02:27:08] <emeb_mac> heh
  • [02:30:07] <m_billybob> so i guess pinctrl is a kernel module
  • [02:30:21] <m_billybob> just by doing some simple investigation
  • [02:30:30] <m_billybob> dotn see a dt blob
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  • [03:42:05] <mranostay> morning
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  • [03:56:07] <ka6sox> morning mranostay
  • [03:57:39] <mranostay> why did i do a opkg upgrade...
  • [03:57:48] <mranostay> overwrote my HDMI 'hack'..
  • [03:59:09] <_av500_> RUN, THEY ARE COMING!
  • [03:59:10] <emeb_mac> don't you have your Beagle backed up to NAS or rsynced to a server somewhere? :P
  • [03:59:16] <_av500_> oops, wrong channel
  • [04:00:03] <emeb_mac> halp! zomblies!
  • [04:00:22] <m_billybob> mranostay what hdmi hack would that be ?
  • [04:00:42] <mranostay> disabling it completely on the BBB :)
  • [04:00:48] <mranostay> takes so many pins
  • [04:01:12] * emeb_mac wonders what those other pins are good for...
  • [04:01:15] <m_billybob> optargs=capemgr.disable_partno=BB-BONELT-HDMI,BB-BONELT-HDMIN
  • [04:01:25] <m_billybob> problem solved ;)
  • [04:02:07] <m_billybob> NEXT !
  • [04:02:20] <ka6sox> _av500_, its too early!
  • [04:06:28] <mranostay> when did panto add that?
  • [04:06:44] <m_billybob> partno <----
  • [04:07:09] <m_billybob> been in uEnv the whole time afaik
  • [04:07:34] <m_billybob> optargs == kernel parameter
  • [04:10:27] <mranostay> m_billybob: not the blacklist feature
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  • [04:16:38] <m_billybob> mranostay, at least a month. I remember him tellign me that a while back
  • [04:17:13] <m_billybob> I could never get it to work though. As then my uEnv setup was not callign $optargs
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  • [04:18:02] <mranostay> ah yeah been busy on other platforms :P
  • [04:23:09] <mastiff> whatchu talking bout minnows and lures?
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  • [04:44:19] <ds2> other platforms? there is only 1
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  • [04:50:13] <m_billybob> there CAN only be . . .*ONE*
  • [04:50:25] <m_billybob> interresting
  • [04:50:26] <m_billybob> ARM: dts: add AM33XX SPI DMA support
  • [04:50:33] <m_billybob> never noticed that before
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  • [04:59:32] <mranostay> ok that is better
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  • [05:06:07] <mranostay> ds2: so why would the altitude reading on a gps modile vary greatly?
  • [05:06:12] <mranostay> noise?
  • [05:07:26] <av500> tectonic shift
  • [05:07:40] <av500> or you are drunk
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  • [05:08:38] <mranostay> cute.
  • [05:08:48] <mranostay> cosm says otherwise
  • [05:08:51] <NotJimCarrey> how can i tell which BBB revision i have?
  • [05:17:19] <ds2> mranostay: it has to do with the geometry of the satellites
  • [05:17:31] <ds2> the Z component accuracy is horrible unless you augment it
  • [05:18:00] <ds2> specifically, the problem is the earth is not transparent to the signals so the only birds you can use for a fix is on one side
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  • [05:21:58] <NotJimCarrey> nevermind, found it
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  • [05:26:20] <mranostay> hi koenkooi
  • [05:27:26] <av500> ds2: soon we will have #loon
  • [05:28:06] <ds2> cannot be soon enough
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  • [05:29:00] <mranostay> ds2: augment it?
  • [05:29:41] <av500> augmented locality
  • [05:29:50] <ds2> mranostay: cross correlate with another source, i.e. WAAS, topo surveys, etc
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  • [05:30:09] <ds2> WAAS was done for this reason so they can use it to land planes
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  • [05:30:36] <ds2> DGPS can help to some extent but that was done for less of the Z axis then X/Y
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  • [05:43:53] <m_billybob> so seems pinctrl is a kernel module
  • [05:44:07] <m_billybob> since i just found it in menu config
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  • [05:48:06] <mrpackethead> https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1015465_10151691994392661_1424420032_o.jpg
  • [05:48:10] <mrpackethead> got it finished, and it works
  • [05:48:11] <mrpackethead> :-)
  • [05:50:37] <mranostay> mrpackethead: woot!
  • [05:51:27] <mrpackethead> i found a really good pcba in Maylasia
  • [05:51:31] <mrpackethead> pretty happy
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  • [05:59:22] <av500> the shadows look fake
  • [06:00:59] <emeb_mac> mrpackethead: nice board.
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  • [06:04:03] <ka6sox> I recognize that board!
  • [06:04:20] <emeb_mac> something about it seems familiar
  • [06:04:47] <emeb_mac> except it's the wrong color. :)
  • [06:05:25] <emocakes> fpga cape?
  • [06:05:48] <emeb_mac> yep
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  • [06:14:12] <av500> fuck dilbert
  • [06:16:06] <ka6sox> av500, wrong channel?
  • [06:16:09] <av500> no
  • [06:16:13] <av500> they killed the RSS
  • [06:16:18] <av500> now its only a link to the website
  • [06:17:02] <av500> guess I need to scrape it myself now
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  • [06:22:59] <mrpackethead> emeb: we can make other colors, but sigh.
  • [06:23:29] <KotH> i want it red-violett, with yellow-green polka dots!
  • [06:24:48] <mrpackethead> KotH: all doable.
  • [06:24:49] <mrpackethead> :_)
  • [06:25:11] <mrpackethead> i actually visited a PCB factory last week, where multicolored Masking is being done.
  • [06:25:25] <mranostay> KotH: JIHAD!
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  • [06:27:26] <KotH> YEAH! JIHAD!
  • [06:27:48] <KotH> on a related note: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/22/pork-laced-bullets-designed-to-send-muslims-straight-to-hell_n_3480150.html
  • [06:27:57] <mrpackethead> no bacon last week
  • [06:28:08] <mranostay> heh
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  • [06:29:09] <mranostay> joel_: !
  • [06:30:39] <mranostay> av500: you know a well supported SPI LCD driver for linux?
  • [06:33:24] <m_billybob> frozen pork bullets ?
  • [06:33:37] <m_billybob> wow, someone needs a day job.
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  • [06:35:14] <mrpackethead> i visited a very high tech PCB Fab factory last week.
  • [06:35:21] <mranostay> well at least there is no hell
  • [06:35:23] <mrpackethead> from teh outside you'd have no idea what is on the inside
  • [06:35:28] <mranostay> or heaven for that matter
  • [06:35:33] <mrpackethead> mranostay: there is dt hell
  • [06:35:56] <mrpackethead> mranostay: There is heaven
  • [06:36:02] <mrpackethead> and if i'm wrong. I dont' loose
  • [06:36:15] <mrpackethead> if your wrong......
  • [06:36:24] <m_billybob> yeah they're dragons and unicorns too.
  • [06:36:33] <m_billybob> theres*
  • [06:36:44] <mrpackethead> there are dragons.
  • [06:36:48] <mrpackethead> not so sure about unicorns
  • [06:36:49] <mranostay> if i'm wrong then god is an asshole :P
  • [06:36:54] <m_billybob> komodo type perhaps
  • [06:37:08] <mrpackethead> my scottish ancestors spent a lot of time killing them all
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  • [06:37:20] <_Sy_> morning :)
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  • [06:37:57] <m_billybob> uh huh, because only scotts could see them right ? after a keg of brew id imagine ;)
  • [06:38:02] <mrpackethead> anyway this is #beagle, not #bacon_bullets_mets_hell_does_not_exciit
  • [06:38:21] <mranostay> off topic enough
  • [06:38:30] <mrpackethead> SCOTTISH RULE FOR SCOTLAND!!!! EYE!
  • [06:38:40] <mrpackethead> DOWN WITH ENGLISH RULE
  • [06:38:41] <m_billybob> :)
  • [06:39:06] <_Sy_> You will never take our FREEDOM ! :)
  • [06:39:44] <panto> moaning
  • [06:39:51] <m_billybob> morning panto
  • [06:39:55] <mranostay> oh crap the greeks are on
  • [06:40:09] <m_billybob> the greek has *been on
  • [06:40:12] <m_billybob> <----
  • [06:40:29] <m_billybob> greek american thank you very much.
  • [06:40:43] <m_billybob> mostly anyhow.
  • [06:40:55] <_Sy_> Coffee time
  • [06:41:04] <ka6sox> mourning panto
  • [06:41:13] <panto> hi ka6sox
  • [06:41:22] <ka6sox> got coffee yet?
  • [06:41:36] * ka6sox wonders before asking tough questions :)
  • [06:41:44] <m_billybob> lol
  • [06:41:51] <mranostay> m_billybob: after one generation it doesn't matter :)
  • [06:42:07] <m_billybob> mranostay, were all humans.
  • [06:42:12] <m_billybob> we're too
  • [06:42:31] <mranostay> trolls are humans?
  • [06:42:47] <m_billybob> trolls arent trolls until they've had a beer or three
  • [06:42:51] <m_billybob> ;)
  • [06:43:02] <mranostay> cute
  • [06:43:14] <_Sy_> thats better
  • [06:43:28] <panto> hi ka6sox
  • [06:43:46] <panto> gulping down my first glass (cold coffee)
  • [06:44:21] <m_billybob> iced capichino ?
  • [06:44:29] <_Sy_> only 157 Million on euro lottery tonight....
  • [06:44:39] <mranostay> panto: cold on purpose?
  • [06:44:59] <_Sy_> interest alone is 20 K per day
  • [06:45:04] * mranostay thought .eu'ians were allergic to ice
  • [06:45:23] <panto> yep, espresso with ice, in the mixer -> tada
  • [06:45:26] <m_billybob> room temp beir only ;)
  • [06:45:56] <ka6sox> panto, coffee slush?
  • [06:46:02] <panto> no, no, no
  • [06:46:05] <m_billybob> have to admit after living in germany for 3 years, warm beer kind of grew on me
  • [06:46:07] <panto> this ain't starbucks
  • [06:46:12] <m_billybob> heh
  • [06:46:12] <mranostay> m_billybob: cold beer forever
  • [06:46:18] <panto> mranostay, +1
  • [06:46:20] <m_billybob> ill drink it either way
  • [06:46:32] <m_billybob> only nasty beer needs to be cold though
  • [06:46:42] <ka6sox> I have bad memories of a HOT Coke under the Eiffel Tower :P
  • [06:46:49] <mranostay> m_billybob: cool beer is okay
  • [06:46:58] <mranostay> but warm beer. i don't care what it is..
  • [06:47:13] <m_billybob> do you like hefe weiss ?
  • [06:47:22] <m_billybob> yeast beer . ..
  • [06:47:26] <mranostay> i like all real beers
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  • [06:47:32] <ka6sox> wheat bear?
  • [06:47:35] <_Sy_> better crack on ... cya
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  • [06:47:42] <mranostay> and will drink crap if it is free :)
  • [06:47:49] <m_billybob> lol
  • [06:47:59] <ka6sox> mranostay, even blueberry?
  • [06:48:11] <m_billybob> got this whats it some high grav beer 5.9%
  • [06:48:12] <mranostay> ka6sox: okay yeah that was bad
  • [06:48:24] <m_billybob> ice light or some such lame beer thats nasty when warm
  • [06:48:24] <mranostay> i forgot how bad
  • [06:48:46] <mranostay> Molson is okay but that is about as cheap as i go
  • [06:49:30] <ka6sox> okay now that we have exhausted biers....can we *please* get on topic?
  • [06:49:40] <m_billybob> I used to drink nothingbut dry beers. they dont sell them anymore unfortnately
  • [06:49:59] <m_billybob> got something ot say ka6sox ?
  • [06:50:11] <mranostay> DT beer overlays?
  • [06:50:12] <m_billybob> start talkign beagle i'll stfu
  • [06:50:54] <ka6sox> panto, if we don't call exclusive on a pinmux in DT will it not kick out an existing overlay or DTSI?
  • [06:50:54] <mranostay> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/146
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  • [06:52:06] <ka6sox> m_billybob, I can't have any tonight...so talking about this is not fun :P
  • [06:52:22] <m_billybob> I can but probably wont
  • [06:52:57] <m_billybob> I've had 3 in the fridgefor the past 4 days and before that 4 for the last month. that one got used for cookign sausages
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  • [06:53:00] <ka6sox> I need to get up in 6hrs
  • [06:53:05] <panto> ka6sox, the exclusive is just a text-based reservation
  • [06:53:09] <mranostay> m_billybob: how dare you!
  • [06:53:11] <panto> it doesn't deal with pinmuxing at all
  • [06:54:21] <m_billybob> mranostay, ive had my fair share in my lifetime already. I've earned the right.
  • [06:56:20] <mrpackethead> ka6sox: chicken bullets?
  • [06:56:35] <ka6sox> mrpackethead, only if they are frozen
  • [06:56:52] <mrpackethead> last week, there was no bacon for breakfast
  • [06:56:57] <mrpackethead> there was "turkey ham"
  • [06:57:15] <mrpackethead> there was "beef brisket" that had been processed like bacon
  • [06:57:17] <mrpackethead> but no bacon
  • [06:57:27] <mrpackethead> i was happy enough
  • [06:57:29] <ka6sox> panto, so calling exclusive-use is just documentation and not functional?
  • [06:57:38] <ka6sox> mrpackethead, and there wasn't a riot?
  • [06:57:51] <mrpackethead> no, it was mayalisa
  • [06:57:54] <mrpackethead> they dont' riot
  • [06:57:59] <ka6sox> of course
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  • [06:58:25] <ka6sox> that isn't the place where you can get 50 lashes for chewing gum on the sidewalk right?
  • [06:58:57] <mrpackethead> thats singapore
  • [06:59:05] <mrpackethead> and they dont' do that quite as much now
  • [06:59:31] <mrpackethead> its a remarkable tolerant and peacful place
  • [06:59:42] <mranostay> i rather not take my chances
  • [06:59:46] <ka6sox> very productive too.
  • [07:00:14] <m_billybob> i bet thats one of the places that gives death penilty for DUI
  • [07:00:16] <mrpackethead> im working on seeting up a factory / production base up there
  • [07:00:26] <mrpackethead> Death for firearms and drug stuff
  • [07:00:38] <mrpackethead> murder gets life
  • [07:00:43] <m_billybob> heh
  • [07:00:57] <mrpackethead> have > 10g of dope
  • [07:01:05] <mrpackethead> and its considered more than personal use
  • [07:01:13] <mrpackethead> and you'll be up for a firing squad
  • [07:01:26] <mranostay> yeah screw that :)
  • [07:01:41] <mrpackethead> mranostay: just dont' visit if you dont' like it
  • [07:01:59] <ka6sox> I hear the Airport is amazing there.
  • [07:02:03] <m_billybob> drugs are stupid anyhow
  • [07:02:10] <mranostay> much more fun places to visit
  • [07:02:21] <mrpackethead> funny converstation i had with my GP a week or so
  • [07:02:22] <mrpackethead> ago
  • [07:02:26] <ka6sox> panto, please PM answer as I can see that tonight I'll lose the answer.
  • [07:02:51] <mrpackethead> he said, i was odd, that i was asking for him to reduce my drugs, but most of his paitents wanted more drugs
  • [07:03:44] <emocakes> i need drugs
  • [07:03:56] <emocakes> http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1ppl1_necro-i-need-drugs_creation
  • [07:04:15] <mranostay> emocakes: have back pain in any western US state
  • [07:04:27] <emocakes> lol
  • [07:04:39] <emocakes> instead of going to a chiropractor / osteopath and changing your lifestyle
  • [07:04:48] <emocakes> "heres some opiates"
  • [07:05:03] <mrpackethead> yes, instead of changing your diet to reduce Collestrol
  • [07:05:04] <Russ> oi, yes, so much better to go to a quack
  • [07:05:13] <mrpackethead> you just increase your dose of Statins
  • [07:05:21] <emocakes> Russ?
  • [07:05:31] <ka6sox> when I got off of any meds I've been doing MUCH better.
  • [07:05:39] <Russ> chiropractor? really? Maybe in your country it means something else
  • [07:05:49] <emocakes> the pain is obv. there for a reason, why would you want to just numb it
  • [07:05:51] <mranostay> hmm seems no more paypal gift. at least totally free
  • [07:06:01] <emocakes> unless you have bad nerve damage and theres nothing that can be done
  • [07:06:11] <emocakes> Russ, chiropractor / osteopath
  • [07:06:12] <ka6sox> mranostay, if its for "personal" then it free
  • [07:06:19] <emocakes> i dont know how commercialized they are in the us
  • [07:06:29] <ka6sox> emocakes, very
  • [07:06:30] <Russ> in this country, an osteopath is a doctor, a chiropractor is not
  • [07:06:42] <emocakes> ok, so go to an osteopath
  • [07:07:01] <Russ> its not like an MD won't tell you to lose weight to improve back pain symptoms either
  • [07:07:03] <emocakes> either way, no need to get doped up
  • [07:07:14] <ka6sox> Russ, when I had back pain..the MD made me NUMB...the Chiro make it so could walk and sleep again.
  • [07:07:24] <emocakes> no, but he will probably try an sell you a weight loss pills
  • [07:07:29] <Russ> yup, why not suffer back pain while you are trying to lose weight
  • [07:07:37] <Russ> awesome plan
  • [07:07:55] <emocakes> lol, so heres some pills to lose weight, heres some to kill the pain, heres some to get an erection
  • [07:08:22] <emocakes> you are depressed? have some SSRI's, can't get it up, heres some viagra
  • [07:08:25] <Russ> emocakes, back pain is all in your head after all, right?
  • [07:08:41] <emocakes> no Russ, back pain is something structural the majority of the time
  • [07:09:01] <emocakes> could be a slipped disc, pinched nerve
  • [07:09:01] <emocakes> etc
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  • [07:09:10] <emocakes> pills aren't going to fix that
  • [07:09:21] <Russ> no, but neither is hoping and wishing
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  • [07:09:47] <av500> mranostay: the one that mdp was using
  • [07:09:52] <emocakes> so you are saying that a more holistic approach to healthcare is complete bs?
  • [07:10:18] <mranostay> there was slight free now
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  • [07:10:22] <mranostay> *fee
  • [07:10:23] <Russ> ignoring treatment options is bs
  • [07:10:33] <emocakes> pain killers aren't treatment
  • [07:10:34] <mranostay> 0.5%
  • [07:10:35] <emocakes> lol
  • [07:10:43] <emocakes> you understand how a pain killer works right russ?
  • [07:10:56] <Russ> emocakes, ya, are you also saying that killing the problem nerves isn't treatment?
  • [07:11:06] * mranostay sleeps
  • [07:11:21] <mranostay> later trolls and gentlemen
  • [07:11:25] <Russ> lates
  • [07:11:26] <emocakes> pain killer isnt localised, and if the nerves are f*cked because of something, try find out why they are fucked
  • [07:11:29] <emocakes> cya mranostay
  • [07:11:43] <Russ> emocakes, yes, go, do that, in the mean time, give me something so I can function
  • [07:12:08] <emocakes> well shit, if you let it get to the point where you can't function, then you have more than just back pain issues
  • [07:12:30] <Russ> ah, so when someone has debilitating back pain, it's their fault
  • [07:12:35] <Russ> I'll have to remember that
  • [07:12:52] <emocakes> don't try and take this pathetic moral highground route, really flimsy
  • [07:13:08] <Russ> that's all the word "holistic" means
  • [07:13:11] <emocakes> pain killers should be the last resort treatment
  • [07:13:15] <m_billybob> well i knew a guy who perminently ruined his back
  • [07:13:18] <emocakes> lol, whatever russ
  • [07:13:22] <m_billybob> he wason morphine for 10 years
  • [07:13:26] <m_billybob> and then he died from it.
  • [07:13:53] <Russ> I know someone who had back problems, went through different treatment options till he found one that worked
  • [07:13:56] <emocakes> no winner either way m_billybob
  • [07:14:00] <Russ> in the meantime, they did take pain killers
  • [07:14:13] <Thihi> I know some hard druggies on the internet, all of them started with painkillers for legitimate pains.
  • [07:14:15] <emocakes> did the pain killers fix his problem?
  • [07:14:20] <Russ> are you saying they should have been denied such treatment because they haven't tried "everything" yet?
  • [07:14:33] <emocakes> did i say anything about banning painkiller?
  • [07:14:33] <emocakes> ;p
  • [07:14:34] <Russ> emocakes, it helped him get through the year, that's for sure
  • [07:14:53] <Russ> you said no pain killers until you eliminate all treatment options
  • [07:15:16] <emocakes> pain killers should be a last resort
  • [07:15:20] <Russ> wtf are you supposed to do in the meantime while trying all these other treatment options that don't work
  • [07:15:26] <emocakes> the majority of pain killers are hardcore opiates
  • [07:15:31] <Russ> lie in bed all year, got it
  • [07:15:40] <emocakes> yah russ, you obviously missed my point
  • [07:15:43] <Russ> I'm sure that'll make it really easy to lose weight
  • [07:15:58] <emocakes> a) if you are a fat bastard, its no ones problem but your own
  • [07:16:15] <emocakes> b) if you let yoru back get to the point where you cant move without morphine then you are an idiot
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  • [07:16:32] <emocakes> theres no need for c), the first two are pretty simple
  • [07:16:43] <Russ> yes, because morphine is the only drug available, I can really see how much holistic care cares about the patient
  • [07:16:53] <Russ> the "fat bastard"
  • [07:17:18] <emocakes> the MD cares about the patient, as long as he can get kickbacks from the pharm companies whos products he sells to the patient
  • [07:17:28] <Russ> oh, right, its a giant conspiracy
  • [07:17:32] <emocakes> all the while nurturing the patients victim character
  • [07:17:41] <emocakes> "the world is against me, boo hoo, im fat"
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  • [07:17:48] <Russ> as opposed to the well meaning holistic care industry that doesn't take money for services
  • [07:18:16] <emocakes> lol
  • [07:18:20] <emocakes> whatever
  • [07:18:37] <emocakes> I can't tell if you are either really freakin stupid, or just trolling
  • [07:18:40] <Russ> I completely forgot the bought and paid for stooges argument
  • [07:18:43] <m_billybob> dont you just love oses that think they're smater than you ?
  • [07:18:45] <m_billybob> william@support:~/rootfs$ sudo cd root/
  • [07:18:45] <m_billybob> sudo: cd: command not found
  • [07:18:53] <emocakes> m_billybob, which one?
  • [07:18:56] <Russ> m_billybob, that command doesn't make sense
  • [07:19:15] <m_billybob> really ?
  • [07:19:20] <Russ> m_billybob, what result did you expect?
  • [07:19:26] <Russ> a root shell in /root/
  • [07:19:30] <Russ> a user shell in /root/?
  • [07:19:52] <m_billybob> william@support:~/rootfs$ pwd
  • [07:20:06] <m_billybob> -> /home/william/rootfs
  • [07:20:32] <Russ> ah, right, did you expect a root shell in ~/rootfs/root?
  • [07:20:36] <m_billybob> william@support:~/rootfs$ ls | grep root
  • [07:20:36] <m_billybob> root
  • [07:20:50] <Russ> a user shell with pwd ~/rootfs/root/?
  • [07:21:07] <m_billybob> its an nfs shared rootfs
  • [07:21:50] <m_billybob> ah well ill just move the file
  • [07:22:19] <Russ> ok, there are certain shell commands that are built-ins and because of the way they function, can only be a built-in, not an external executable
  • [07:22:23] <Russ> cd is one of those
  • [07:22:42] <av500> /usr/bin/cd
  • [07:22:45] <Russ> if cd where an executable, it'd run, change its own cwd, and then exit back to the shell, where the cwd would remain unchanged
  • [07:22:49] <av500> /usr/bin/lp
  • [07:22:50] <av500> /usr/bin/mc
  • [07:23:23] <Russ> exit is another one
  • [07:24:02] <m_billybob> You know whats funny
  • [07:24:13] <Russ> that av500 has a /usr/bin/cd?
  • [07:24:24] <m_billybob> E: Unable to locate package dtc
  • [07:24:32] <m_billybob> on the actual bbb
  • [07:24:41] <Russ> hrmph
  • [07:24:52] <m_billybob> but i can compile on the x86 cross dev system ;)
  • [07:25:05] <m_billybob> all good its done
  • [07:25:54] <Russ> av500, thats funny, someone did a funny
  • [07:25:56] <Russ> http://www.lehman.cuny.edu/cgi-bin/man-cgi?cd+1
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  • [07:27:38] <m_billybob> hmm so stil stumped
  • [07:28:13] <m_billybob> not getting any /sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl
  • [07:28:27] <av500> Russ: see, I was right
  • [07:29:03] <Russ> and so was I, it doesn't actually change your shell's cwd
  • [07:29:53] <m_billybob> What all do i have to do to enable pinctrl ? I set it up in the kernel config as far as I can tell
  • [07:30:43] <av500> Russ: maybe if you buffer overflow it with the pass and then use as a root shell? :)
  • [07:30:47] <av500> the path*
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  • [07:58:39] <m_billybob> ah lol apt-get install device-tree-compiler
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  • [08:02:18] <_Sy_> hello again...following on from a conversation last night regarding performance of Node.js vs Apache and PHP, see http://zgadzaj.com/benchmarking-nodejs-basic-performance-tests-against-apache-php
  • [08:02:22] <_Sy_> quite interesting.
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  • [08:06:14] <m_billybob> heh
  • [08:08:11] <KotH> yet another hit and run
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  • [08:15:39] <sajjan> hello i was trying to build a small linux foot print for my beagle board xm, unfortunately etherenet interface is not showing in ifconfig
  • [08:15:43] <sajjan> any inputs plz
  • [08:15:56] <sajjan> i was using buildroot
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  • [08:17:21] <av500> pastebin the boot log
  • [08:17:58] <sajjan> 0.000000] Booting Linux on physical CPU 0x0 [ 0.000000] Linux version 3.9.6 (sajjan@ubuntu) (gcc version 4.7.3 (Buildroo3 [ 0.000000] CPU: ARMv7 Processor [413fc082] revision 2 (ARMv7), cr=10c53c7d [ 0.000000] CPU: PIPT / VIPT nonaliasing data cache, VIPT aliasing instructie [ 0.000000] Machine: OMAP3 Beagle Board [ 0.000000] cma: CMA: reserved 16
  • [08:18:22] <av500> pastebin!
  • [08:18:24] <av500> not paste
  • [08:18:28] <sajjan> i mean i compiled kernel with make omap2plus_defconfig
  • [08:20:30] <sajjan> http://pastebin.com/ak1S67Bu
  • [08:21:27] <sajjan> any idea plz
  • [08:21:34] <av500> no USB
  • [08:21:37] <av500> thus no ETH
  • [08:21:47] <sajjan> how to enable it
  • [08:22:39] <sajjan> its a beagle board-xm re b board
  • [08:22:59] <m_billybob> there are example uEnv.txt files on the google groups
  • [08:23:53] <sajjan> is it uboot enviornment variables?
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  • [08:25:44] <m_billybob> yeah it configures the usb device as an eth interface
  • [08:25:49] <m_billybob> i cant find an example yet
  • [08:25:52] <av500> m_billybob: how does that help with USN in the kernel?
  • [08:26:00] <av500> USB
  • [08:26:11] <sajjan> any example plz
  • [08:26:12] <av500> sajjan: why not use the Beagleboard kernel
  • [08:26:16] <av500> that is know to work
  • [08:26:27] <av500> the one that comes with the default Angstrom
  • [08:26:42] <sajjan> i just need to recompile the main stream
  • [08:26:42] <m_billybob> av500 been my experience that uboot interfaces persist
  • [08:27:04] <sajjan> billy any examples
  • [08:27:16] <m_billybob> i know there are im still looking
  • [08:27:44] <av500> m_billybob: ???
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  • [08:28:33] <sajjan> thanks
  • [08:29:50] <m_billybob> av500 for instance in my case, Ive been having network issues because my uboot eth device persists after im booted
  • [08:30:09] <kfoltman> what???
  • [08:30:36] <m_billybob> yeap
  • [08:30:45] <m_billybob> i have to manuall set a gateway route
  • [08:32:04] <m_billybob> i can not use dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces, because "eth0 is not up" yet it is up, and has an ip on the network already. just no gateway set
  • [08:32:33] <kfoltman> but that's not "your uboot eth device" surely?
  • [08:33:09] <sajjan> guys my problem i am not even seeing my eth0 interface after compi,ing new kernel from buildroot
  • [08:33:11] <kfoltman> I mean, surely, the uboot-specific eth driver is not something the kernel could use?
  • [08:33:20] <sajjan> i also doubt that
  • [08:33:23] <m_billybob> if debian thinks eth0 is down, and ifcnfig shows eth0 is up with an ip. what else could it be ?
  • [08:34:02] <kfoltman> sajjan: did you forget to include the eth driver, or compiled it as module and it doesn't get loaded?
  • [08:34:18] <kfoltman> sajjan: AFAIK I had ethernet working in buildroot
  • [08:34:46] <sajjan> let me see, if it is module it should be there in /lib/modules of my file system
  • [08:34:52] <av500> sajjan: you have no USB
  • [08:34:56] <av500> ETH is on USB
  • [08:34:59] <av500> no USB, no ETH
  • [08:35:10] <sajjan> its beagle board-xm
  • [08:35:15] <av500> you have no logs with EHCI at all
  • [08:35:19] <av500> I know what it is
  • [08:35:33] <sajjan> compiled it will make ompa2plus_defconfig
  • [08:35:38] <av500> ye3s
  • [08:35:39] <av500> yes
  • [08:35:47] <sajjan> you mean default config will not enable it
  • [08:35:48] <sajjan> ?
  • [08:36:00] <av500> I have no idea what default config does
  • [08:36:08] <av500> I would use the beaglebone kernel
  • [08:37:04] <av500> you can of course also debug mainline omap2plus_defconfig
  • [08:37:05] <sajjan> hmm i am totally confused now
  • [08:37:28] <KotH> np: genesis - the land of confusion
  • [08:37:39] <m_billybob> sajjan, you are using usb wifi ?
  • [08:38:05] <LetoThe2nd> KotH: i'd rather go for the disturbed version of it.
  • [08:38:23] <sajjan> yes
  • [08:38:35] <sajjan> i was trying both ethernet + wifi
  • [08:38:41] <av500> m_billybob: no, usb ethernet
  • [08:39:00] <sajjan> yeah atleast usb ethernet
  • [08:39:09] <av500> sajjan: your kernel does not seem to have USB enabled for the XM
  • [08:39:16] <av500> use the beagleboard kernel, it has
  • [08:39:25] <av500> or debug the one you have
  • [08:39:47] <sajjan> debug, any idea how it would be..let me see
  • [08:39:58] <av500> look at the config
  • [08:39:58] <sajjan> any main stream beagleboard distribution
  • [08:40:05] <av500> angstrom
  • [08:40:10] <sajjan> now i am using 3.9.6
  • [08:40:27] <sajjan> i mean with latest kernel,i just need a small box with busybox
  • [08:40:30] <sajjan> no distributions
  • [08:42:18] <av500> so?
  • [08:42:27] <av500> that still allows you to use the angstrom kernel
  • [08:42:32] <av500> kernel != distribution
  • [08:43:52] <sajjan> yup, you mean to say only kernel..but modules also should be inline with kernel version
  • [08:44:06] <av500> sure
  • [08:44:14] <sajjan> my rootfs may be in busybox
  • [08:44:15] <av500> when you build a kernel, you can build modules too
  • [08:44:21] <sajjan> ok
  • [08:44:26] <sajjan> understood
  • [08:44:34] <sajjan> i feel like i would rather go for it
  • [08:44:36] <av500> or you can steal kernel + modules from an agstrom imaghe
  • [08:44:36] <sajjan> thatts better
  • [08:44:42] <av500> prebuilt
  • [08:44:44] <sajjan> :)
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  • [08:46:28] <sajjan> ok guys thank you very much
  • [08:46:37] <sajjan> will close this thank you av500
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  • [08:53:57] <m_billybob> av500, are you good with device tree ?
  • [08:54:02] <m_billybob> http://pastebin.com/RNNXhMcd
  • [08:54:18] <m_billybob> wondering if that is doable and if so is it smart
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  • [08:56:49] <av500> not good at all
  • [08:57:16] <m_billybob> default-state = "off"; ?
  • [08:57:58] <jackmitchell> panto: git@github.com:joelagnel/linux-kernel.git (branch dma-devel-mmc2)
  • [08:58:13] <jackmitchell> ^^ the actual am335x DMA devel branch (finally_
  • [09:04:15] <panto> heh
  • [09:04:26] <panto> jackmitchell, sorry didn't have time to look at it yesterday
  • [09:04:32] <panto> did it worked?
  • [09:05:02] <vaizki> hmm what is the DMA bringing in?
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  • [09:06:25] <jackmitchell> panto: this is a different branch that joel posted this morning
  • [09:06:33] <jackmitchell> just fetching and will build + test
  • [09:06:37] <panto> ok, thanks
  • [09:06:43] * panto promises to look at it today
  • [09:07:28] <jackmitchell> it's got a fix for the mmc hwmod thats going to go into tony lindgrens branch soon; which fixes the 'Waiting for root /dev/mmc.....' error
  • [09:08:17] <jackmitchell> so, we may have a mainline for-next branch ready to be merged and bootable over mmc on the bone \o/
  • [09:08:38] <panto> indeed
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  • [09:09:20] <jackmitchell> vaizki: what do you mean?
  • [09:09:31] <panto> ok, afk for a bit
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  • [09:10:19] <jackmitchell> the DMA brings in the DMA, which allows other things to be enabled; fast transfers over DMA for example; and the mmc driver currently requires DMA so it brings in support from the mmc port
  • [09:12:07] <emocakes> bah have to buy torque wrenches
  • [09:12:08] <emocakes> :\
  • [09:12:15] <emocakes> dealing with suspension
  • [09:12:20] <emocakes> dont want to fuck it up
  • [09:12:20] <emocakes> lol
  • [09:14:16] <vaizki> jack, oh so the current kernel doesn't really have DMA support? didn't know that
  • [09:14:33] <vaizki> then again I have been a BB(B) owner for less than a week...
  • [09:14:50] <jackmitchell> vaizki: koens 3.8 kernel has DMA support, but the mainline Linux kernel (until the past few days) didn't have DMA support
  • [09:15:05] <vaizki> got it
  • [09:15:13] <kfoltman> jackmitchell: so it means you're closer to integrating bb support into mainline? cool!
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  • [09:15:48] <vaizki> I'm still wondering if I could force the BBB to boot from USB by configuring the boot pins
  • [09:16:04] <jackmitchell> kfoltman: me personally no, I just follow the progress and help where I can; but the bb is slowly gaining more features in mainline; it has been able to boot over nfs for a while
  • [09:16:53] <vaizki> I'm working on a solar powered data collector for a remote location and I would prefer to have any reflashing done by hamfisted fishermen (really) to happen via a USB port and push button on the outside of a case instead of opening up the thing and putting in micro sd
  • [09:17:59] <kfoltman> vaizki: why not just make it part of the bootloader or something?
  • [09:18:08] <kfoltman> on emmc
  • [09:18:16] <vaizki> you mean part of the uboot script?
  • [09:18:19] <kfoltman> yes
  • [09:18:24] <kfoltman> +/- customized uboot
  • [09:18:48] <kfoltman> I recall booting over USB using stock uboot
  • [09:18:49] <vaizki> well yes but I'm kinda EXPECTING the eMMC to get corrupted at some point when working off such an unstable power as solar in midwinter
  • [09:18:51] <mrpackethead> gahh.
  • [09:19:08] <mrpackethead> well, i pulled my macbook apart because i thouht the track pad was faulty
  • [09:19:09] <mrpackethead> :-(
  • [09:19:16] <mrpackethead> turns out it has been wet
  • [09:19:22] <mrpackethead> and there is corrosion all through it
  • [09:19:36] <vaizki> ouch
  • [09:19:36] <kfoltman> mrpackethead: replaceable?
  • [09:19:51] <mrpackethead> i'd say its a new machine time
  • [09:19:59] <vaizki> sell the old one for parts
  • [09:20:14] <m_billybob> kfoltman, ive been wondering for a while now if you can use USB eth ( on the bbb ) like what is done on the XM. but i do not see any USB options like that in the uboot headerfile i was looking at before
  • [09:20:32] <kfoltman> m_billybob: usb eth???
  • [09:20:38] <kfoltman> ah
  • [09:20:39] <kfoltman> the otg one?
  • [09:20:51] <kfoltman> sorry, never tried it
  • [09:20:52] <vaizki> I don't think BBB has OTG support
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  • [09:21:18] <m_billybob> i dotn know much about the XM but ive seen some uenv.txt files that seem to indicate people were booting from USB eth
  • [09:21:24] <kfoltman> vaizki: well, I'm not sure about otg, but there's one device port that can act as a fake ethernet gadget
  • [09:21:35] <kfoltman> I couldn't boot from regular ethernet using tftp
  • [09:21:46] <vaizki> sure but it's in client mode and not a host port
  • [09:21:46] <m_billybob> on the bbb ?
  • [09:21:47] <kfoltman> spend like half a day, didn't get a single connection
  • [09:21:51] <kfoltman> m_billybob: yep
  • [09:22:01] <m_billybob> kfoltman i wrote a couple of how to's . ..
  • [09:22:11] <m_billybob> im booting pxe now
  • [09:22:15] <kfoltman> m_billybob: cool!
  • [09:22:24] <kfoltman> m_billybob: I'll ask you for the urls later (I'm at work)
  • [09:22:33] <kfoltman> vaizki: but is it because it's configured as device or because it's a device-only HW?
  • [09:22:44] <kfoltman> anyway, I should just look it up, sorry
  • [09:22:56] <m_billybob> kfoltman anyway you can mail them to yourself ?
  • [09:23:04] <m_billybob> or can i mail them to you ?
  • [09:23:26] <m_billybob> www.embeddedhobbyist.com can you remember that ?
  • [09:23:26] <kfoltman> m_billybob: you can mail to wdev@foltman.com if that's not a lot of hassle
  • [09:23:30] <kfoltman> ok
  • [09:23:34] <vaizki> kfoltman: I think it's a hw limitation but I'm just trusting someone else who told a third guy to forget it
  • [09:23:35] <kfoltman> I'll mail it :)
  • [09:23:56] <m_billybob> http://www.embeddedhobbyist.com/
  • [09:24:19] <m_billybob> ( in case i misspelled it )
  • [09:25:07] <m_billybob> kfoltman but ah those are debian based, maybe you could warp to work with angstrom if you're into angstrom
  • [09:26:13] <kfoltman> m_billybob: the goal was to boot buildroot or something, I think I'll figure it out once I get the connection in first place :)
  • [09:26:25] <m_billybob> Idont know much about the build steps or default config for menuconfig with angstrom
  • [09:26:54] <kfoltman> that's not a problem
  • [09:26:56] <m_billybob> id imagine it might be similar ? all the nfs stuff was enabled by default for the steps i folowed
  • [09:26:59] <m_billybob> ok cool
  • [09:27:17] <kfoltman> a problem is that none of my desktops have nfs enabled in kernel, but that's not hard to fix :)
  • [09:27:42] <m_billybob> good then you may just know more about it than me lol
  • [09:28:03] <m_billybob> the key is getting uenv.txt right
  • [09:28:37] <kfoltman> yes, that's the bit I couldn't get right :)
  • [09:29:16] <m_billybob> my nfs server is actually a virtual machine
  • [09:29:32] <m_billybob> pita to setup but i finally got it working
  • [09:30:28] <m_billybob> had my second laptop doing nfs / iscsi /home but i really didnt want to run a second machine just for that
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  • [09:32:02] <vaizki> does anyone have the datasheet for the eMMC btw?
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  • [09:32:46] <vaizki> if I could write protect parts of it for example, that would increase confidence in just putting a uboot environment for usb flashing
  • [09:35:06] <vaizki> or is the e.MMC much more resistant to corruption in power loss situations than sd cards?
  • [09:36:40] <vaizki> hmmm interesting, it can boot also from SPI0
  • [09:36:50] <m_billybob> i think the ds for the emmc is NDA limited
  • [09:37:27] <vaizki> yea well I read everywhere that BBB is truly open and RasPi is so closed and now I can't find a DS for a part on the BBB ;)
  • [09:37:56] <vaizki> and no I don't want to get into an NDA with Micron
  • [09:37:57] <das> the controller manufacturer has to hide that his ECC/WL code sucks ... usually
  • [09:37:58] <m_billybob> well Gerald has no control over what Crucial / Micron does.
  • [09:38:58] <kfoltman> vaizki: write protect doesn't help if in case of interference from neighbour cells causing bit reversals
  • [09:39:13] <kfoltman> *-if
  • [09:39:45] <vaizki> yea.. what about booting from a SPI EEPROM?
  • [09:40:12] <vaizki> uboot has support for booting from SPI serial flash but any idea how the CPU boots from SPI?
  • [09:40:24] <m_billybob> its in the TRM
  • [09:40:37] <m_billybob> i glossed over it a couple weeks ago
  • [09:40:54] <kfoltman> but, EEPROM? like, really?
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  • [09:41:10] <m_billybob> no need for a uEnv.txt file then ;)
  • [09:41:16] <KotH> kfoltman: probably spi flash
  • [09:41:26] <kfoltman> ah
  • [09:41:27] <KotH> kfoltman: i havent seen an spi eeprom in ages
  • [09:41:56] <vaizki> well I just say eeprom because the uboot command to grab stuff from SPI flash is "eeprom read" :)
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  • [09:43:35] <vaizki> billybob, you mean the AM3359 TRM?
  • [09:44:00] <KotH> believe in no other TRM!
  • [09:45:17] <vaizki> ok found it.. see I'm new at this.. ffffuuu... 4161 pages
  • [09:45:22] <m_billybob> spruh73h
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  • [09:45:29] <m_billybob> or
  • [09:45:31] <m_billybob> spruh73c
  • [09:45:46] <m_billybob> yeah its rather large
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  • [09:47:58] <KotH> be glad it's large. other companies, who scale freely, do not put half the info into the TRM you'd need to ge the thing working
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  • [09:49:43] <vaizki> yea sure information is good
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  • [09:55:42] <vaizki> ok SPI flash boot.. possible but a bit of a hassle
  • [10:03:29] <kfoltman> KotH: so you'd advise against getting a wandboard?
  • [10:04:47] <KotH> kfoltman: as usual: check kernel support prior to getting anything
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  • [10:05:25] <KotH> kfoltman: 1y ago, the i.mx23 support was about "loads kernel"
  • [10:05:28] <KotH> kfoltman: it got better
  • [10:05:49] <KotH> kfoltman: i.mx6* is a different arch, dunno how good the support is
  • [10:05:56] <av500> "loads kernel and starts it"?
  • [10:06:40] <KotH> av500: if you threatened to beat it with a Ti launchpad, yes
  • [10:07:12] <kfoltman> that's not a very serious threat?
  • [10:10:04] <panto> back
  • [10:14:07] <jackmitchell> panto: those branches were useless, I tried dma-devel-mmc, dma-devel-mmc2 and tony lindgrens omap-for-3.11/cleanups; all failed on the 'Waiting for root' error. All I can suggest is give it another day or two and hope that it gets sorted
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  • [10:15:14] <jackmitchell> panto: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-omap@vger.kernel.org/msg91130.html
  • [10:15:47] <panto> jackmitchell, the sordid mess
  • [10:15:47] <jackmitchell> that's the thread I was using which had me convinced that would be the winning branch
  • [10:16:03] <panto> don't bet on it
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  • [10:16:43] <jackmitchell> panto: I looked at Tony's branch, and the hwmod parts seem to never have been applied for mmc, only the IRQ changes; so I don't know wtf is going on
  • [10:16:56] <panto> jackmitchell, let me look at it
  • [10:17:02] <panto> it never works
  • [10:17:11] <panto> always needs something or another
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  • [10:20:25] <Sebastian> hallo, welchen chip w??rden sie empfehlen, um von usb nach uart zu ??bersetzen? FTDI?
  • [10:21:01] <LetoThe2nd> Sebastian: most english speaking people here recommend ftdi, yes.
  • [10:21:22] <Sebastian> sorry
  • [10:21:23] <mru> most german-speaking too
  • [10:21:23] <Sebastian> hello, what chip would recommend it to translate from usb to uart? FTDI?
  • [10:21:43] <LetoThe2nd> mru: hrhr
  • [10:21:45] <LetoThe2nd> indeed.
  • [10:21:56] <av500> still FTDI
  • [10:21:57] <das> lachen heraus laut
  • [10:22:21] <mru> we understand german here
  • [10:23:16] <Sebastian> ok, vielen dank... ok, many thanks...
  • [10:23:23] <av500> but do you understand Germans?
  • [10:23:36] <Sebastian> ja verstehe ich
  • [10:25:02] <LetoThe2nd> my ancestors claim that this is impossible.
  • [10:25:20] * mru concurs
  • [10:25:24] <Crofton|work> does the ftdi chip handle translating from English to German?
  • [10:25:46] <LetoThe2nd> Crofton|work: probably, if placed properly on the language barrier
  • [10:26:15] <av500> also, can one bitbang french?
  • [10:26:27] <LetoThe2nd> av500: bang french bits?
  • [10:26:35] <LetoThe2nd> av500: or rather bang frenchs a bit?
  • [10:26:59] <LetoThe2nd> av500: or even bang bits the french way?
  • [10:27:08] <av500> LetoThe2nd: I see the re-educatiuon camp did nothing to you
  • [10:27:20] <LetoThe2nd> av500: hell yeah
  • [10:27:45] <LetoThe2nd> hm, does french bitbanging take care of the MSB<->LSB issues? ;)
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  • [10:31:18] <`jpi> hi, what is this L3 INSTR ?
  • [10:31:40] <`jpi> am335x spec
  • [10:33:21] <mrpackethead> what are we dissung
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  • [10:36:35] <vaizki> BeagleBone Black open-source Linux computer unleashes innovation
  • [10:36:41] <vaizki> nice title for TI whitepaper
  • [10:36:49] <vaizki> beagle.. unleash.. I see what you did there.
  • [10:37:32] <vaizki> or it's just normal marketing mumbojumbo out of a random PR generator.
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  • [10:42:05] <jackmitchell> I think you're giving them too much credit
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  • [10:42:30] <Rotti> hi!
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  • [10:43:17] <mrpackethead> Rotti:
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  • [10:48:10] <usererror> Quick question for the crowd (and I'm sure this has been asked before, sorry for causing any redundancy): Will the Beaglebone Black, while running Android, Successfully run Netflix? I am looking for a power/cost efficient replacement for a desktop media machine.
  • [10:48:35] <usererror> Added bit, please do highlight me if you respond. Don't want to miss any replies :)
  • [10:48:37] <jackmitchell> usererror: I doubt it
  • [10:49:04] <jackmitchell> usererror: what resolution were you hoping to run at?
  • [10:49:16] <usererror> I remember there being issues with arm versions and netflix.. 1280x720
  • [10:49:31] <usererror> don't quite need 1080p
  • [10:50:41] <jackmitchell> you might get away with it but I would be suprised; as decoding the DRM + decoding the video in software is a heavy task
  • [10:51:02] <usererror> I suppose I might as well ask, are there frequent limitations with running video at higher resolutions (higher than 720p)?
  • [10:51:22] <jackmitchell> usererror: I think the highest supported resolution is 1280x1024
  • [10:51:44] <jackmitchell> don't quote me on that though
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  • [10:51:47] <XorA> heh, power/cost efficient I would use a Nexus 4
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  • [10:52:34] <usererror> I would love to go that route, but I'd just use my Galaxy Nexus when I retire it instead, except there are a lot of problems with the adapters, and the connection...
  • [10:53:18] <XorA> Chromebook arm has a HDMI socket
  • [10:53:23] <XorA> same cost
  • [10:53:59] <usererror> If I were to go that route, I'd pick up a used motorola razr with its stand-alone hdmi and OTG support (with a new kernel), and then I have USB for a proper remote, since most require their own dongle.
  • [10:54:34] <usererror> Yeah, still at that $300 price range
  • [10:55:43] <usererror> Honestly a bit shocked I'm not getting hits on that in searches..
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  • [10:57:02] <usererror> Seems like someone would have tried it by now.. half the price of one of the little media boxes
  • [10:57:41] <jackmitchell> usererror: it's not really marketed as a media machine...
  • [10:57:49] <usererror> nor is the pi
  • [10:57:59] <jackmitchell> the pi is marketed exactly as a media machine
  • [10:58:01] <usererror> but I get what you are saying
  • [10:58:16] <jackmitchell> it is nothing but a media chip, a gpu with an ARM hanging off it
  • [10:58:23] <usererror> well, the pi is marketed as an entry level board for learning electronics
  • [10:58:39] <usererror> that is the 'official' message anyway
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  • [10:59:53] <usererror> either way, it looks like a great piece.. if I can get netflix going on it, I'd grab 2.. one to play with and one to stick by the tv
  • [11:00:23] <jackmitchell> usererror: how about getting a cheap android HDMI stick
  • [11:00:34] <jackmitchell> MK808 or whatever
  • [11:01:28] <bradfa> mourning
  • [11:01:38] <usererror> I'd want to fix one that is not locked down - full source available, but I'm checking that out right now.. its a good idea :) had forgot about those
  • [11:05:40] <usererror> mk808 might work :)
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  • [11:08:03] <kfoltman> mk808? work? :/
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  • [11:08:28] <kfoltman> I had mk802 IIIS I think, that thing did many things but working wasn't one of them
  • [11:09:06] <kfoltman> crashing, failing at tasks and annoying me - yes, it was fairly good at that
  • [11:09:32] <jackmitchell> I haven't used one, but the MK80x are the ones everyone raves about
  • [11:09:57] <kfoltman> usually until it fails for them ;)
  • [11:10:33] <usererror> ahh
  • [11:10:36] <kfoltman> that's why I bought a bbb instead, despite only a8 and single core - at least I could be reasonably confident that it will work most of the time
  • [11:10:45] <usererror> which is why I don't go for anything locked down..
  • [11:10:55] <usererror> software fixes most issues..
  • [11:11:01] <usererror> hmm
  • [11:11:02] <jackmitchell> usererror: how about a wandboard or something like that; got a bit more oomph
  • [11:11:16] <jackmitchell> odroid if you're feeling risky
  • [11:11:30] <kfoltman> usererror: unless the issue is poor soldering on USB sockets (one of the stick types had this problem)
  • [11:11:41] <kfoltman> jackmitchell: why is odroid risky?
  • [11:11:43] <usererror> price range is getting up there toward one of those shitty locked down (and massively over-priced) boxes
  • [11:12:14] <jackmitchell> kfoltman: I don't think the odroid gang do much with reliable or deterministic software
  • [11:12:30] <kfoltman> (I'm currently undecided between wand vs x2 vs optimizing the code further)
  • [11:13:38] <jackmitchell> kfoltman: the original odroid is only just making mainline is a _very_ basic form http://linuxfactory.or.kr/archives/190
  • [11:15:45] <kfoltman> well, to be fair, bbb didn't make the mainline either, but I'll keep looking, if their custom kernels suck and are unstable, then odroid is out for me
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  • [11:16:58] <jackmitchell> kfoltman: not yet, but at least the bb* has a good patch structure and is trying for mainline; I think you get what you're given with odroid without any real support channels
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  • [11:19:09] <av500> usererror: no
  • [11:19:11] <av500> it wont
  • [11:19:23] <usererror> av500 : thnx :)
  • [11:19:27] <usererror> I take it you've tried it?
  • [11:21:50] <av500> no
  • [11:22:27] <usererror> ah
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  • [11:23:18] <usererror> well, might still make a decent headless linux machine with a battery backup..
  • [11:23:36] <usererror> so I'll still consider it for that
  • [11:23:41] <av500> headless netflix is kinda pointless
  • [11:23:53] <av500> thought the MPAA might approve
  • [11:24:00] <usererror> lol
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  • [11:24:38] <kfoltman> av500: I'd prefer headless MPAA
  • [11:24:38] <usererror> easier than porting ubuntu touch over to an old android phone just to have the UI overhead for nothing :p
  • [11:25:40] <`jpi> av500: you know about L3 INSTR ?
  • [11:25:55] <av500> in what context?
  • [11:26:07] <`jpi> clock management
  • [11:26:11] <`jpi> am335x spec
  • [11:26:50] <av500> its a register
  • [11:28:00] <`jpi> yes but what is it for ?
  • [11:28:17] <jackmitchell> `jpi: what does the TRM say?
  • [11:28:24] <`jpi> jackmitchell: nothing
  • [11:28:52] <`jpi> omap specs are better
  • [11:30:17] <jackmitchell> `jpi: CM_PER_L3_INSTR_CLKCTRL ?
  • [11:30:33] <`jpi> yes
  • [11:30:48] <jackmitchell> and the page in the TRM doesn't tell you what you need?
  • [11:30:56] <`jpi> no
  • [11:31:05] <jackmitchell> This register manages the L3 INSTR clocksm what else do you need to know?
  • [11:31:22] <`jpi> what is L3 INSTR ?
  • [11:31:27] <av500> no idea
  • [11:31:37] <`jpi> jackmitchell: wtf
  • [11:33:03] <panto> L3 is an interconnect
  • [11:33:06] <av500> sure
  • [11:33:08] <panto> what do you want to do with it?
  • [11:33:15] <av500> but what is INSTR?
  • [11:33:16] <koen> connect inters with it
  • [11:34:37] <av500> INtentionally SecreT Register
  • [11:34:39] <av500> there
  • [11:35:03] <av500> set it to 54
  • [11:37:10] <jackmitchell> `jpi: there are references to it in the Linux kernel, have you followed those?
  • [11:37:23] <av500> yes, they set the register to some value
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  • [11:39:20] <`jpi> jackmitchell: no
  • [11:39:31] <av500> wtf is IEEE5000?
  • [11:39:46] <`jpi> just enable it could not be the answer
  • [11:40:45] <av500> you have not worked much with TI, have you?
  • [11:41:57] <av500> ah, its a type, its IEEE1500
  • [11:42:07] <av500> typo
  • [11:42:43] <av500> if you ask me, I assume its some "instrumentation" feature for debugging
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  • [12:14:39] <KotH> av500: IEEE5000 sounds like KIT 2000
  • [12:15:09] <koen> KotH: shouldn't that be KI 2000?
  • [12:15:20] <KotH> hmm.. right
  • [12:15:26] <koen> Knigh Industries Two Thousand
  • [12:15:41] <av500> KotH: its funny, the TRM uses 1500 and 5000 and of course its all IEEE5000 in the kernel source
  • [12:15:46] * koen glues on some more chestheir and steps into his car
  • [12:16:03] <av500> koen: btw, can we run our code on the M3?
  • [12:16:31] <koen> av500: we should
  • [12:17:06] <koen> the pm-firmare.m3 kinda ruins the whole jedi-handwave "there is no M3" TI is doing
  • [12:17:08] <`jpi> koen: huh?
  • [12:17:21] <panto> the firwmare is available IIRC
  • [12:17:26] <koen> it is
  • [12:17:29] <koen> opensauce as well
  • [12:17:38] <panto> perhaps we should integrate it in our build?
  • [12:17:41] <`jpi> koen: wher is thy source ?
  • [12:18:08] <av500> koen: source where?
  • [12:18:10] <koen> panto: I integrated it a long time ago
  • [12:18:26] <panto> oh, sorry didn't know
  • [12:18:58] <koen> http://arago-project.org/git/projects/?p=am33x-cm3.git;a=summary
  • [12:18:59] <KotH> koen: M3?
  • [12:19:20] <av500> KotH: not a gun
  • [12:19:21] <koen> https://github.com/Angstrom-distribution/meta-ti/blob/angstrom-staging-yocto1.3/recipes-bsp/ti/am33x-cm3_git.bb
  • [12:19:39] <KotH> av500: what is it then? a BMW?
  • [12:19:48] <koen> cortex-m3
  • [12:19:54] <KotH> hmm?
  • [12:19:56] <koen> for "power management" according to TI
  • [12:19:59] <KotH> on the bbb?
  • [12:20:02] <av500> yes
  • [12:20:06] <av500> dont you read the docs?
  • [12:20:07] <KotH> so ka..
  • [12:20:09] <KotH> nope
  • [12:20:16] <KotH> i read irc
  • [12:20:24] <KotH> real knowledge comes from irc
  • [12:20:39] * koen shouts some more guesses
  • [12:20:45] <`jpi> how do you plan on using it ?
  • [12:21:07] <KotH> to gain world domination!
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  • [12:21:26] <`jpi> as i read it is mutually exclusive with the cortex-A8 core ?
  • [12:21:30] <av500> no
  • [12:21:38] <av500> why would it be?
  • [12:21:38] <panto> just no
  • [12:21:50] <av500> and how would one even implement that
  • [12:21:50] <`jpi> oh, ok
  • [12:22:03] <koen> av500: people who mentioned syslink support for that M3 quickly had a black pillow case over there head and now live in gitmo
  • [12:22:09] <koen> their*
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  • [12:24:28] <KotH> koen: friends of you?
  • [12:24:36] <KotH> koen: do you need a rescue party?
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  • [12:25:00] <av500> koen: I was about to mention it
  • [12:25:02] <panto> lol
  • [12:25:04] <av500> now I wont
  • [12:26:52] <koen> av500: syslink is a wbu/c6000 ism
  • [12:26:59] <koen> the am335x is an AMBU project
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  • [12:27:19] <koen> so you're only allowed to mention excrement related terms when talking about syslink
  • [12:27:25] <koen> "dsp crap"
  • [12:27:41] * panto is looking at ducati virtio stuff right now
  • [12:27:49] <panto> holy sh*t is it over complicated
  • [12:27:53] <koen> you know, the usual TI political crap
  • [12:32:02] <av500> koen: doesnt AMBU has arm+dsp too?
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  • [12:33:30] <av500> and is there a BUBU?
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  • [12:36:15] <av500> nice, there are now e-waste bins around town
  • [12:36:30] <av500> you can throw a whole tower PC inside
  • [12:37:08] <ynezz> "Sub-Arctic PM Firmware" /me wonders what do they smoke there...
  • [12:37:18] <koen> av500: only the arm side is supported
  • [12:37:22] <av500> right
  • [12:37:30] <KotH> av500: finally! .de is following .ch's lead there... after 20years or something :)
  • [12:37:33] <av500> ynezz: Sub-Arctic is the am335 code name
  • [12:37:44] <ynezz> but sounds funny
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  • [12:38:10] <av500> KotH: well, there was e-waste before
  • [12:38:14] <av500> but you had to go somewhere
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  • [12:38:31] <av500> sadly it does not fit CRT TVs
  • [12:38:34] <panto> don't you have relatives to unload old boxes?
  • [12:38:43] <av500> no
  • [12:38:51] <panto> tyropita wins
  • [12:39:35] <av500> I do wonder thought how they are going to recycle old tablet prototypes
  • [12:40:05] <KotH> they'll send them to your competitors
  • [12:40:11] <av500> fine
  • [12:40:22] <KotH> or to china
  • [12:40:29] <av500> well, they are all over china
  • [12:42:02] <KotH> so, we'll see cheap clones soon?
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  • [12:48:57] <ynezz> do I understand it correctly, that this am355x cm3 doen't have any flash, right?
  • [12:49:23] <panto> no
  • [12:50:37] <ynezz> can't parse that short answer
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  • [12:51:08] <bradfa> -ENOPANTS
  • [12:51:13] <ynezz> linker script doesn't show any flash available either
  • [12:51:32] <ynezz> bradfa: much better, thanks
  • [12:51:36] <bradfa> :)
  • [12:51:54] <panto> no flash
  • [12:52:08] <panto> ok, who does linuxcnc in here?
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  • [13:02:32] <georgem> I'd like to do some milling work but I haven't found any hardware setups within my budget and I haven't found anyone local willing to go in on it.
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  • [13:06:51] <KotH> georgem: no fablab near you?
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  • [13:10:26] <georgem> KotH: yeah there is actually not quite as close as I'd like.
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  • [13:16:27] <georgem> requires month membership though... I should catch up on other tasks and sign up.
  • [13:16:57] <KotH> yeah...
  • [13:17:02] <KotH> they need to finance the place somehow
  • [13:17:09] <perry_> i want to make one product basically for wireless hotspot . so beagleboard have mips arch. rather than arm ?
  • [13:17:30] <KotH> perry_: there is no mips beagle
  • [13:17:57] <perry_> Any other board you can suggest me on mips arch?
  • [13:18:13] <georgem> KotH: was wishing they had a daily entrance fee instead of just monthly though. Realistically I'd be lucky to have 2 days a month to do it..
  • [13:18:19] <KotH> ask one of your indian friends. there are tons of wireless hotspots out there
  • [13:18:21] <KotH> buy one cheap
  • [13:19:04] <KotH> georgem: hmm...ours here in .ch has, afaik. but you are not allowed to use all machines then
  • [13:19:09] <av500> perry_: why does it have to be mips?
  • [13:19:37] <perry_> because mips have more powerfull on networking side
  • [13:20:10] <av500> lol
  • [13:20:19] <KotH> av500: ich bewundere wie du immer bei solchen leuten, die eindeutig sich nicht wirklich informieren wollen, nachfragst :)
  • [13:20:31] <perry_> av500: am i wrong ?
  • [13:20:41] <KotH> perry_: if that's your argument, get a PPC, these are the usual processor used for networking gear, like switches and routers
  • [13:20:52] <av500> what kind of "powerfull networking" does a wireless hotspot need?
  • [13:21:14] <KotH> av500: gbit wireless with NAT and statefull inspection firewall!
  • [13:21:33] <av500> ah, the british variant
  • [13:21:37] <KotH> juup
  • [13:22:42] <KotH> av500: dont forget the usian variant with paket cloning and forwarding
  • [13:23:11] <av500> perry_: yes
  • [13:23:24] <perry_> av500:: forgot it , you can suggest me any other board
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  • [13:27:09] <perry_> av500: hello
  • [13:27:13] <av500> hi
  • [13:27:48] <bradfa> hola
  • [13:28:22] <perry_> beagleboard is perfect for my application.
  • [13:28:41] <av500> but you need MIPS
  • [13:28:50] <bradfa> million of instructions!
  • [13:29:38] <perry_> yes right but if my aim is fullfil in arm then it's ok to goto arm side
  • [13:30:53] <av500> ah
  • [13:30:54] <av500> ok then
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  • [13:38:00] <ChrisV> Hi all - Noob alert
  • [13:38:08] <ChrisV> I've just purchased the BBXM
  • [13:38:17] <ChrisV> Using the standard Angstrom release
  • [13:38:34] <ChrisV> don't seem to be able to get the bluetooth device to pair
  • [13:38:45] <ynezz> perry_: for a hotspot, take a look at something like carambola2 (bonus point, it's MIPS)
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  • [13:39:21] <ChrisV> Bluetooth dongle and keyboard are both working and can see each other, but i don't seem to have the bluez-tools to connect the devices together
  • [13:39:26] <ChrisV> has anyone been able to do this?
  • [13:39:45] <ynezz> sure, using bt daily
  • [13:39:51] <ChrisV> I don't have bluez-simple-agent
  • [13:39:54] <ChrisV> or simple-agent
  • [13:40:03] <ChrisV> so a little stuck on the last step
  • [13:40:11] <ChrisV> can you help me do this without using the gui?
  • [13:41:31] <ynezz> no, sorry
  • [13:42:06] <ChrisV> Thanks anyway Ynezz
  • [13:42:58] <ynezz> this is more general Linux question, not much related to beagleboard (apart from possible USB problems which you doesn't have probably as something is working already for you)
  • [13:43:36] <ChrisV> more curious as to what tools are distributed with the angstrom release
  • [13:43:54] <ChrisV> as all the tools in the tutorial don't seem to be available on the beagleboard xm angstrom release
  • [13:44:37] <ynezz> you know, tutorials especially those on the blogs and wikis became outdated
  • [13:45:05] <ynezz> usually they should give you a rough idea what needs to be done
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  • [13:45:21] <ynezz> and the rest is up to you :)
  • [13:45:38] <thurgood> if I recall, rfkill was a big step in getting it working
  • [13:45:51] <ynezz> try to do the same working on some desktop
  • [13:46:37] <ynezz> take a look how does it work there, what's needed and duplicate the same(or similar setup) on the beagle
  • [13:46:45] <ynezz> there's no magic involved
  • [13:46:59] <ChrisV> yeah the bluez4-tools package is required, it's not an option in opkg list
  • [13:47:17] <ChrisV> thanks i'll do some more reading
  • [13:47:27] <ChrisV> have been at it for a few hours so thought i'd check in with you guys
  • [13:47:41] <ynezz> just few hours? :p
  • [13:47:45] <KotH> salut bradfa
  • [13:48:01] <bradfa> howdy KotH
  • [13:48:19] <KotH> bradfa: hau di selber ;)
  • [13:48:52] <thurgood> took me a few days to get bluetooth somewhat working without, then our company decided t ditch it for the time being
  • [13:49:29] <ChrisV> ha!
  • [13:49:29] <bradfa> KotH, anything exciting going on?
  • [13:49:33] <ChrisV> painful!
  • [13:49:38] <KotH> bradfa: not really...
  • [13:50:00] <KotH> bradfa: doing some cheapish cortex-m3 controller board design for some medical comp
  • [13:50:35] <bradfa> cheapish and medical go in the same product?
  • [13:50:46] <KotH> yeah..
  • [13:50:55] <KotH> we-dont-have-any-money kind of startup
  • [13:51:11] <KotH> well.. it still costs quiet a bit :)
  • [13:51:24] <KotH> but considering what it could cost, it's a cheap design :)
  • [13:51:31] <bradfa> KotH, there's other kinds of startups?
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  • [13:51:53] <bradfa> :)
  • [13:51:59] <KotH> yeah.. we had some who spend millions (litteraly) before they got to the first product release
  • [13:52:13] <mranostay> fuzzy mornings to all
  • [13:52:28] <KotH> mranostay: BEER!
  • [13:52:46] <KotH> bradfa: ofc, only one of those made it to product release ;)
  • [13:53:18] <av500> this SAKURA is a big POS
  • [13:53:25] <bradfa> mranostay, morning fuzzy :)
  • [13:53:25] <av500> the USB MSC is totally unstable
  • [13:53:36] <av500> there is a, gah, wen compiler
  • [13:53:38] <av500> web*
  • [13:53:42] <av500> no toolchain
  • [13:53:43] <bradfa> KotH, yeah, that sounds like most startups that try to do hardware
  • [13:53:44] <av500> no programmer
  • [13:53:57] <mranostay> bradfa: http://www.fuzzyduckbrewery.co.uk/ <--- beer for you
  • [13:54:00] * KotH takes a stepladder and pats av500 on his head
  • [13:54:16] <bradfa> mranostay, +1!
  • [13:54:57] <bradfa> KotH, don't ask how much we've spent on hardware development :)
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  • [13:55:43] <KotH> bradfa: you know, you could just ask us. we do professional hw design ;)
  • [13:56:06] <av500> lol, the ph0rum is "renesasrulz.com"
  • [13:56:08] <av500> OMG
  • [13:56:21] <ynezz> kanged?
  • [13:56:22] <av500> KotH: I thought the japanese were cool cats
  • [13:56:24] <georgem> renesas sucks
  • [13:56:29] <KotH> av500: you should know better than using any renesas uC/uP
  • [13:56:34] <av500> he
  • [13:56:42] <av500> we uses SH-1 for our mp3 design :)
  • [13:56:45] <av500> used*
  • [13:56:50] <bradfa> av500, I hear it's super
  • [13:57:19] <bradfa> KotH, we could, yes, but we could probably save a bunch of money on development by not going to china before we should...
  • [13:57:35] <av500> china is cheap
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  • [13:57:42] <bradfa> av500, yes, and that's about it
  • [13:58:11] <av500> LLLOOOLLL: http://renesasrulz.com/app_kits_and_demo_boards/gadget_renesas_user_forum/f/128/t/4007.aspx
  • [13:58:14] <KotH> bradfa: we even offer doing production in china :)
  • [13:58:24] <av500> how about a fucking toolchain instead???
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  • [13:58:34] <bradfa> av500, I enjoy your pain :)
  • [13:58:41] <av500> not pain
  • [13:58:45] <av500> I got it for free
  • [13:59:02] <av500> thought I might power it up before I dump it on "the pile"(tm)
  • [13:59:04] <georgem> I never found free working toolchain for the renesas dev board I had.
  • [13:59:10] <ynezz> I've toolchain for sh-3 somewhere :p
  • [13:59:14] <bradfa> av500, current colors are pink! I like it! mranostay I think you might have designed that
  • [13:59:18] <ynezz> that hew crap
  • [13:59:18] <av500> ynezz: me too, gcc
  • [13:59:31] <georgem> yeah it was hew
  • [13:59:33] <av500> worked fine back then on the SH-1
  • [13:59:44] <KotH> av500: what saukra? an arduino clone using an cortex-m3?
  • [13:59:50] <ynezz> sure, it works, but...
  • [14:00:01] <av500> KotH: no
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  • [14:00:04] <av500> renesas
  • [14:00:07] <philenotfound> sauerkraut
  • [14:00:08] <georgem> hew is trial ware
  • [14:00:10] <av500> the good shit
  • [14:00:19] <KotH> av500: complete own design?
  • [14:00:34] <av500> do I look like wikipedia to you?
  • [14:00:38] <KotH> yes
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  • [14:00:56] * av500 sets up a donation begging banner
  • [14:01:01] <ynezz> looks like gay dating site
  • [14:01:07] <georgem> haha
  • [14:01:11] <av500> "Hi, I am Kevin Spacey and I want your money"
  • [14:01:43] <av500> ynezz: it might in fact be more successful at that
  • [14:02:36] <av500> wow, they have "google translated" documenetation
  • [14:02:39] <av500> -e
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  • [14:03:16] <KotH> av500: own design
  • [14:03:29] <KotH> av500: as i said: stay away from renesas
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  • [14:09:09] <panto> hi LetoThe2nd
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  • [14:12:54] <LetoThe2nd> panto: howdy
  • [14:13:30] <av500> ah, there is a toolchain
  • [14:13:40] <av500> something hew that smells a lot like gcc
  • [14:14:07] <LetoThe2nd> av500: smells like RMSpirit?
  • [14:14:48] <av500> http://www.kpitgnutools.com/login.php?mess=Please login&return_pg=%2FlatestToolchain.php
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  • [14:15:22] <av500> http://www.kpitgnutools.com
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  • [14:18:09] <av500> lol compile.bat
  • [14:18:17] <av500> at least it calls make
  • [14:18:30] <av500> Set PATH=C:\PROGRA~2\Renesas\Hew\Tools\KPIT\GNURX-~1\v12.03\rx-elf\bin;C:\PROGRA~2\Renesas\Hew\Tools\KPIT\GNURX-~1\v12.03\OtherU~1;C:\PROGRA~2\Renesas\Hew\Tools\KPIT\GNURX-~1\v12.03\rx-elf\libexec\gcc\rx-elf\4.7-GNURX_v12.03;%PATH%
  • [14:19:00] <panto> my eyes, my eyes
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  • [14:20:24] <LetoThe2nd> panto: here, have ouzo
  • [14:23:03] <av500> LLOOLL: http://www.kpitgnutools.com/signUp.php
  • [14:23:10] <av500> see target OS dropdown
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  • [14:44:11] <adh88ca> Hi everyone, is it possible to flash the kernel with out flashing the fs? leaving the original fs on the beaglebone?
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  • [14:44:40] <av500> sure
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  • [14:45:22] <av500> what you call "flashing" is a mere "copy"
  • [14:45:28] <av500> and files can be copied
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  • [14:45:56] <adh88ca> ok, so i can just overwrite the old kernal with the new one?
  • [14:46:00] <av500> yes
  • [14:46:09] <av500> you might also copy the new modules
  • [14:46:37] <adh88ca> ok, i'll give it a shot. Thanks
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  • [14:54:59] <bobvader505> is there a way to change the threshold at which the low disk space warning shows up in angrstrom?
  • [14:55:22] <av500> I dont think it's fixed in hardware
  • [14:55:40] <av500> so, yes
  • [14:56:01] <bobvader505> more refined question, does anyone know how?
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  • [14:58:00] <LetoThe2nd> whats the FS anyways? ext?
  • [14:58:28] <av500> angstrom runs gnome, no?
  • [14:58:33] <bobvader505> yes
  • [14:58:36] <av500> I guess its a gnome thing then
  • [14:58:50] <av500> some little gnome inside
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  • [14:59:02] <LetoThe2nd> ah you mean that way.
  • [14:59:32] <bobvader505> alright, ill dig from there. Thanks I'm not a very experienced linux user
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  • [15:21:40] <thurgood_> has anyone here had experience with eclipse kepler and gcc4.7?
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  • [15:23:10] <jackmitchell> thurgood_: is kepler the new, new one
  • [15:23:18] <jackmitchell> being released this month?
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  • [15:23:34] <jackmitchell> if so, no; if it's the one released last year then yes
  • [15:23:49] <Ahmed_> is their anyone here who is kinda expert at i2c?
  • [15:25:04] <Ahmed_> jackmitchell: when i write -i2cdump
  • [15:25:11] <Ahmed_> where does this get all this dump from?
  • [15:25:18] <jackmitchell> the i2c bus
  • [15:25:34] <thurgood_> yes it's the new one... juno seems to have fallen apart since the adoption of gcc4.7 on ubuntu
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  • [15:25:46] <Ahmed_> alright if i wanted to change the printf that comes from the dump can i do that?
  • [15:26:03] <jackmitchell> thurgood_: I work with GCC 4.7/4.8 and have no isssues
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  • [15:26:18] <jackmitchell> Ahmed_: not really
  • [15:26:37] <jackmitchell> you could use regex to match the output; but I imagine there are easier ways
  • [15:26:47] <thurgood_> it compiles fine, but shows errors everywhere, starting a couple of days ago
  • [15:26:54] <lee__> Hello everyone, would someone tell me how to enable the auto login for Beaglebone running ubuntu 12.04?
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  • [15:27:08] <thurgood_> it's not gcc itself I don't think but CDT
  • [15:27:21] <jackmitchell> ah, what CDT version?
  • [15:27:59] <lee__> I tried /etc/inittab and found: "S:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 115200 ttyO2"
  • [15:28:01] <thurgood_> it says 8
  • [15:28:28] <jackmitchell> yeah, I use 8.1.2 over here and it's ok
  • [15:28:34] <jackmitchell> not on Ubuntu though
  • [15:28:59] <jackmitchell> Eclipse can be a funny beast at times
  • [15:29:38] <emeb> s/at times/always/
  • [15:29:45] <thurgood_> it was going along fine until sometime over the weekend
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  • [15:30:19] <thurgood_> then it suddenly couldn't find headers in the include directories
  • [15:30:34] <jackmitchell> does it manage your build for you?
  • [15:30:43] <Ahmed_> jackmitchell: :D alright i have a question, i have at90usb 1287 from atmel and this thing have temp sensor
  • [15:30:44] <thurgood_> yes, it builds fine
  • [15:30:48] <jackmitchell> i.e. automatically generate the makefiles?
  • [15:30:54] <Ahmed_> but i dont know how to get the data from this device
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  • [15:31:17] <jackmitchell> Ahmed_: I don't know either I'm afraid
  • [15:31:27] <thurgood_> but if it's going to say every other line is an error I might as well use a text editor
  • [15:31:48] <jackmitchell> thurgood_: do you reference your includes from the root directory?
  • [15:31:56] <jackmitchell> *root project directoy
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  • [15:32:12] <thurgood_> no, from filesystem root
  • [15:32:22] <jackmitchell> hmm, that's an odd way of doing it
  • [15:32:32] <jackmitchell> are you cross compiling or build native apps
  • [15:33:31] <thurgood_> cross compiling for omap3530 and testing some application code on the desktop
  • [15:33:50] <jackmitchell> it sounds odd that you reference your makefiles with an absolute path
  • [15:34:06] <jackmitchell> sorry reference your includes with an absolute path
  • [15:34:51] <jackmitchell> possibly play around with the Project->Preferences->C/C++ General->Paths and Symbols windows
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  • [15:35:46] <jackmitchell> but I would definitely say it is a build system problem, rather than a GCC problem
  • [15:36:14] <thurgood_> it just seems weird to me that this happened suddenly, I don't think I changed any settings I was simply merging source code from an old project
  • [15:36:34] <thurgood_> obviously /something/ changed
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  • [15:37:25] <jackmitchell> thurgood_: sometimes, because Eclipse automatically regenerates Makefiles on the fly, it only takes a little tweak for the system to blow up
  • [15:38:12] <l0di> When following the instructions at http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian on making a bootable SD-card with debian, where am I supposed to execute the "/.setup_sdcard.sh" command? On the SD-card, on the beaglebone? It's for a BBB.
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  • [15:43:26] <jackmitchell> l0di: I would guess on your host PC
  • [15:43:36] <jackmitchell> that needs to be running Linux
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  • [15:44:34] <l0di> jackmitchell: Ok, so I have the files locally on a linux system with the card plugged in. Or are the files supposed to be on the card? Thanks
  • [15:45:04] <SoCo_cpp_> I'm kind of biffed that the BBB's don't have the MAC lableled on the Ethernet
  • [15:45:14] <jackmitchell> ok, do you know what device your SD Card is?
  • [15:45:25] <jackmitchell> /dev/sd....
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  • [15:47:25] <jackmitchell> l0di: if you do: sudo fdisk -l and try and find your SD card in the list
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  • [15:49:20] <SoCo_cpp_> I wish there was a Qt package for the default image.
  • [15:49:29] <l0di> jackmitchell: I have an ubuntu comp that is not with me now, I'm on a mac right now. Maybe that could work?
  • [15:50:24] <jackmitchell> hmm, probably not
  • [15:50:47] <jackmitchell> I would wait till your on a Linux machine
  • [15:51:05] <l0di> jackmitchell: ah well, I'll try it on that then. Thank you so much for the help.
  • [15:51:18] <jackmitchell> l0di: np
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  • [15:56:25] <adh88ca> ah... fedex just dropped of 3 bb-xm's :)
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  • [15:57:22] <mranostay> i wish fedex would give me free stuff :P
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  • [16:00:18] <adh88ca> lol... now the work begins...
  • [16:00:28] <bradfa> mranostay -> www.liquormart.com
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  • [16:12:21] <SpeedEvil> I have had a barrel delivered once.
  • [16:12:30] <SpeedEvil> It was 98% sulphuric acid though.
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  • [16:23:00] <djlewis> mranostay: You hace a rather large girlfriend ;)
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  • [16:23:07] <djlewis> s hace/have
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  • [16:26:19] <mranostay> djlewis: how dare you
  • [16:26:43] <djlewis> gm :)
  • [16:27:29] <das> did she returned -1 when sizeof'ed ?
  • [16:29:12] <mranostay> sir, how dare you
  • [16:29:58] <das> sorry for the joke, and very sorry for the grammar mistake (priorities man)
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  • [16:43:21] <vaizki_> ok so stupid beginner question, if I build a custom ??ngstr??m image using the online build bot, will it always have the usb gadgets for serial and ethernet in the kernel?
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  • [16:43:35] <vaizki_> so I can get access to them in the same way as the "stock" demo ??ngstr??m
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  • [16:55:34] <vaizki_> errr ok another noob question.. is this narcissus even capable of rolling a BBB distro for me.. :P
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  • [17:16:23] <vaizki_> ok I'm going with arch for now.. I know arch :)
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  • [18:43:38] <aathma> This is a stupid question but how do I use a .tgz file on the BBB? There doesn't seem to be any application installed to handle it
  • [18:45:46] <KotH> aathma: tgz is short for .tar.gz
  • [18:45:56] <KotH> aathma: and you should have tar and gzip installed
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  • [18:47:29] <aathma> I get the dialog stating that there is no application installed for tar archives and such
  • [18:47:49] <maxinux> use the commandline
  • [18:47:50] <maxinux> forget the gui
  • [18:47:56] <maxinux> tar -xzvf file.tgz
  • [18:50:36] <djlewis> we arent in kansas anymore
  • [18:51:33] <aathma> Lol. I've kinda been thrown into the linux environment with no experience
  • [18:51:56] <djlewis> quick, kill the witch with the silver slippers and grab them
  • [18:52:07] <aathma> I was great with Dos when I was little and have developed for Windows but this is so different
  • [18:53:15] <KotH> welcome to oz
  • [18:53:29] <KotH> to your right, you see the command line, to your left is /dev/null
  • [18:53:37] <KotH> we hope you enjoy your stay
  • [18:54:10] <bradfa> watch out for /dev/random
  • [18:54:23] <aathma> I love it! It's just a bit of a learning curve right now. Do we know if anyone has had luck with using Processing on Angstrom?
  • [18:54:26] <djlewis> dmesg is your friend
  • [18:54:52] <bradfa> aathma, yes, a bit of googling should show up some results
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  • [19:05:18] <n|west> howdy, I'm trying to do a simple inline neon adder, but I don't think my load/stores are working properly. Can anybody point me in the right direction with this: https://gist.github.com/n-west/5861300 ?
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  • [19:14:40] <kfoltman> n|west: why not use intrinsics?
  • [19:15:40] <n|west> kfoltman: I've got an equivalent intrinsic function, and just playing around with what is faster. Also using this as a building block to do more complex things inline
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  • [19:15:53] <kfoltman> n|west: have you looked at the generated .S?
  • [19:16:21] <Crofton|work> mru, you awake
  • [19:16:31] <n|west> yea. It looks ok, except that the registers gcc chose to use don't have any init, so there's garbage in them instead of my addresses
  • [19:17:00] <kfoltman> n|west: BTW why num points is divided by four instead of two?
  • [19:17:22] <n|west> quadwords take in 4 floats, no?
  • [19:18:44] <n|west> I can gist the generated .S file too, if it will help and you don't mind looking at it :-p
  • [19:18:59] <n|west> or at least the relevant portion
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  • [19:19:14] <kfoltman> n|west: if you can pastebin it? although I never used the inline asm yet
  • [19:19:23] <kfoltman> still, learning something new sounds like a good thing
  • [19:19:37] <n|west> work bans pastebin :-/ is gist ok?
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  • [19:19:42] <kfoltman> possibly?
  • [19:19:48] <kfoltman> at least the intrinsics operate on the float32x2 type, not float32x4 AFAIK
  • [19:20:06] <agmlego> n|west: Try using lug.mtu.edu/pastebin.
  • [19:20:09] <n|west> hmm, adding a q to the intrinsics makes them operate on float32x4
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  • [19:20:49] <n|west> so vaddq_f32 operates on two float32x4_t's
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  • [19:24:24] <WizardStan> So I just realized I've been using the Angstrom "unstable" branch since 2007 or so, revision C3.
  • [19:24:27] <WizardStan> Very very out of date.
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  • [19:25:42] <WizardStan> Is it possible to just change the opkg lists to something more up to date and just opkg upgrade, or would I be better off starting over from scratch with a newer demo?
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  • [19:30:23] <kfoltman> n|west: so, r8 is quarterPoints, ip is number... mov r6, r1 is r1->r6, right? (and r1 is the second argument per ABI?)
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  • [19:32:34] <n|west> I would have thought r7 is quarterPoints
  • [19:33:20] <Crofton|work> ip is a regualr reg with a funny name
  • [19:33:35] <mru> r12
  • [19:33:43] <djlewis> WizardStan: get another sd card. upgrade will most likely make you a unhappy camper.
  • [19:33:43] <Crofton|work> thats what I thought
  • [19:33:44] <n|west> but otherwise that looks right. There's a verbose asm command, righht? any idea what it is? or I'm off to the google
  • [19:33:46] <kfoltman> n|west: but it compares r8 with ip in line 80
  • [19:33:51] <Crofton|work> mru are you hunting reindeer?
  • [19:33:53] <mru> please don't call it ip
  • [19:34:03] <Crofton|work> gcc is calling it that
  • [19:34:10] <kfoltman> mru: makes it too easy to confuse with intel instruction pointer?
  • [19:34:15] <mru> no excuse
  • [19:34:24] <Crofton|work> :)
  • [19:34:27] <Crofton|work> yeah
  • [19:34:30] <mru> kfoltman: one reason
  • [19:34:36] <Crofton|work> I knew there where some funny names
  • [19:34:43] <kfoltman> I can say I was confused until I looked it up
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  • [19:35:28] <mru> there's fp and sl too
  • [19:35:47] <kfoltman> fp and sp?
  • [19:35:50] <mru> don't use those names either
  • [19:35:58] <mru> sp is ok
  • [19:36:07] <kfoltman> what's sl?
  • [19:36:22] <kfoltman> subroutine link?
  • [19:36:22] <Crofton|work> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms253914(v=vs.80).aspx
  • [19:36:31] <mru> r10 iirc
  • [19:36:48] <mru> it's in the arm abi spec
  • [19:37:09] <n|west> impressive :-o
  • [19:37:36] <Crofton|work> mru sleeps with the arm arm
  • [19:37:37] <kfoltman> n|west: I don't know what I'm doing, but to me, at least the loop and the initialisation of the addresses looks perfectly fine
  • [19:37:55] <n|west> alrighty, I just spit out the verbose assembly, checking if it's more useful
  • [19:38:10] <kfoltman> n|west: can you stepi it in gdb?
  • [19:38:11] <mru> neon intrinsics suck btw
  • [19:38:31] <nicokaag> Hi guys, I got myself a BBB last week, and been struggling with getting a accelerometer to work. I have no idea on what ports to use
  • [19:38:39] <WizardStan> djlewis: that was my fear. I spent years getting things "just so" and don't really want to start over, but gotta do what you gotta do. :P
  • [19:38:42] <WizardStan> Thanks.
  • [19:38:42] <nicokaag> *pins
  • [19:38:42] <panto> mru, meh, it's an point before you go full assembly
  • [19:38:43] <mru> don't even think about using them with gcc <4.8
  • [19:38:56] <n|west> mru: that's why I'm trying to figure out how to do it inline
  • [19:39:00] <kfoltman> mru: still, the difference between intrinsics and plain old FPU code is enormous
  • [19:39:25] <kfoltman> also, gcc syntax for assembly is, um, challenging
  • [19:39:26] <mru> panto: plain asm is much easier
  • [19:39:33] <n|west> kfoltman: I haven't seen a huge different when both are compiled with -O3
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  • [19:40:02] <mru> don't use inline asm EVER
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  • [19:40:03] <panto> mru, depends
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  • [19:40:16] <panto> mru, oh, I do it all the time
  • [19:40:16] <n|west> mru: oh really?
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  • [19:40:45] <kfoltman> n|west: rewriting my cubic resampler code using intrinsics (I don't remember if it was gcc 4.7 or 4.8) made it something like 4x faster, or more
  • [19:40:52] <kfoltman> however
  • [19:40:55] <n|west> mru: so you would suggest a straight asm?
  • [19:41:00] <cyronin_> c has never really translated to horribly efficient SIMD code generation on any architectures...
  • [19:41:03] <mru> kfoltman: straight float code on a8 sucks
  • [19:41:08] <kfoltman> it is VERY easy to make it suck
  • [19:41:22] <kfoltman> the compiler is moronic and you need to avoid accidental use of regular FP
  • [19:41:41] <kfoltman> so, it's pretty much "change something and look at disassembly and vomit"
  • [19:41:55] <Crofton|work> I'm assuming inline suffers from the constraint madness?
  • [19:42:06] <mru> you should get 8-10x speedup with neon on a8
  • [19:42:08] <kfoltman> Crofton: that's the problem, for me at least
  • [19:42:20] <n|west> mru: is the same true on a9 though?
  • [19:43:16] <kfoltman> mru: good to know (unfortunately the inner loops for interpolation and IIR filtering are not the only CPU-intensive parts of the sampler code, so there's only so much I can gain by hand-optimizing those)
  • [19:44:24] <kfoltman> n|west: my impression was that hand optimized neon gives much better performance on a8, because it's stupid and in-order execution AFAIK
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  • [19:45:32] <Crofton|work> the headache doing straight .s is you also need to understand the abi stuff
  • [19:45:32] <kfoltman> with out-of-order you get better "default" behaviour from the CPU, and it's also harder to predict CPU behaviour for optimization purposes
  • [19:45:51] <nicokaag> Somebody who got experience with hooking up a Memsic 2125 accelerometer with a Beaglebone Black? As far as I know it has a PWM output, but how do I read this signal?
  • [19:47:03] <kfoltman> Crofton: but, is abi really that difficult?
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  • [19:47:39] <Crofton|work> I can only handle learning one thing at a time
  • [19:48:03] <Crofton|work> all tradeoffs
  • [19:50:29] <n|west> so I added a -fverbose-asm file to that gist, makes it clearer what registers are set to which variables
  • [19:51:17] <Crofton|work> did you update what is there
  • [19:52:05] <n|west> there should be 3 files there right now
  • [19:52:07] <Crofton|work> yeah
  • [19:52:08] <n|west> one .c and two .s
  • [19:52:26] <n|west> the verbose .s is the last one
  • [19:52:45] <Crofton|work> you need to find the flag for stop-using-stupid-register names
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  • [19:53:58] <n|west> for stuff like ip?
  • [19:54:09] <Crofton|work> yeah
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  • [19:58:34] <vaizki_> ok so putting arch on the BBB was a breeze.. but I was thinking that the user leds would be ark under the arch, yet they still blink away.
  • [19:58:52] <vaizki_> where is the user led activity blinking done?
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  • [19:59:25] <kfoltman> n|west: but, what's the problem, does it not work?
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  • [20:00:13] <n|west> kfoltman: right, it runs but gives a different output from straight C given same output. (it returns all 0's)
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  • [20:05:43] <n|west> kfoltman: the loads come from r1 and r2, but I don't see where addresses aPtr and bPtr are loaded in to r1 and r2 (but maybe I'm just missing it...)
  • [20:05:55] <n|west> which is what was making me think maybe I just didn't have the gcc syntax quite right
  • [20:05:59] <panto> bed time
  • [20:06:18] <kfoltman> n|west: that's part of the ABI I think
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  • [20:06:27] <kfoltman> n|west: the first 3 arguments are passed as r0, r1 and r2
  • [20:06:35] <n|west> ahh
  • [20:06:46] <n|west> that makes a lot more sense
  • [20:07:16] <kfoltman> however, I'm not sure if gcc realizes that r5, r6 and r7 are being changed by the code
  • [20:08:38] <m_billybob> asm ?
  • [20:08:40] <kfoltman> err r4, r5, r6
  • [20:08:49] <kfoltman> ok, but it never uses r4/r5/r6 later so it's ok I suppose
  • [20:08:51] <n|west> yea, r7 is definitely working
  • [20:09:02] <m_billybob> hello everyone
  • [20:09:06] <kfoltman> at least not before setting them to different values
  • [20:09:15] <m_billybob> hallo for all yo ugermans
  • [20:09:18] <kfoltman> m_billybob: yes, we're trying to figure out why some NEON code isn't working
  • [20:09:23] <n|west> the intrinsics version I have moves r0-2 -> r4-6, interestingly
  • [20:09:42] <m_billybob> ah
  • [20:09:46] <kfoltman> n|west: it's so that the original values aren't clobbered by the loop
  • [20:09:53] <kfoltman> because they're used later on
  • [20:10:14] <kfoltman> add r0, r0, r5 where r5 = sl << 2 ?
  • [20:10:30] <kfoltman> or r10 << 2 for mru's sake
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  • [20:10:42] <Crofton|work> :)
  • [20:11:29] <kfoltman> n|west: can you try using gdb to verify that the output array is indeed wrong and it's not something else?
  • [20:11:48] <n|west> I can try :-o
  • [20:12:09] <kfoltman> I mean, the alternative explanation would be that the calculation code is correct, but the inspection code is led astray by some side effects of the calculation code
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  • [20:12:49] <kfoltman> also, can you try making the function non-inline, just for clarity?
  • [20:13:05] <kfoltman> otherwise it gets mixed up with the calling function and the result is bit hard to read
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  • [20:25:08] <Crofton|work> mru, are you near osterlund?
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  • [20:28:57] <n|west> another newb question: is there a good guide for using gdb/server for cross debugging? I can run and do bt's, but I can't ever seem to load source files to set break points
  • [20:29:31] <Crofton|work> we need to mess with the yocto adt one day :(
  • [20:29:52] <Crofton|work> I am sad because eclipse is invovled :)
  • [20:29:56] <mru> args are in r0-r3
  • [20:29:58] <n|west> noooo!
  • [20:30:15] <n|west> Crofton|work: wash your mouth out!
  • [20:30:25] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [20:30:28] <mru> r0-r3, r12, r14 are call-clobbered
  • [20:30:49] <Crofton|work> I talked to some guys that said eclipse is great once you get it setup and have other people use it :)
  • [20:31:06] <Crofton|work> bbiab
  • [20:31:14] <Crofton|work> I ahve to pick up our weekly vegatables
  • [20:31:21] <Crofton|work> vegetables
  • [20:31:36] <wmat> heh
  • [20:31:47] <wmat> i thought that was some new fangled vegan thing
  • [20:32:22] <n|west> I suspect Crofton|work may actually be a hippie. Too much cycling and vegetables
  • [20:33:03] <wmat> there's no hippies in Virginia ;)
  • [20:33:31] <n|west> mru: how do I add r12 and r14 to the clobbered register list if they are chosen by gcc?
  • [20:33:31] <thurgood> n|west: dunno about tuts.. but make sure you compile symbols into the binary
  • [20:34:14] <thurgood> at least while debugging actively
  • [20:35:06] <thurgood> Crofton|work: I was in the eclipse is fine camp until it blew upon me yesterday :/
  • [20:35:46] <thurgood> blew up on
  • [20:35:51] <n|west> thurgood: is there more involved than -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug ?
  • [20:36:00] <mru> n|west: mucking with inline?
  • [20:36:07] <n|west> mru: yea
  • [20:36:15] <mru> don't
  • [20:36:49] <thurgood> not sure if it's the project or eclipse itself that's at fault now, spent most of the day rebuilding the project from sources with the same result
  • [20:37:22] <n|west> mru: is it not a good middle ground between intrinsics and straight .S?
  • [20:37:25] <mru> if you don't know why inline is almost always a bad idea, you won't be able to make it work
  • [20:37:31] <mru> no
  • [20:40:44] <vaizki_> I can't find the ambient operating temperature range for the BBB in the SRM or elsewhere..?
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  • [20:40:57] <n|west> that seems like a catch 22
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  • [20:44:17] <m_billybob> volatile.
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  • [20:49:39] <vaizki_> yea so I'm blind, stab me with an icepick and tell me the min/max operating temp for the BBB :)
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  • [20:52:02] <_av500_> between freezing and searing
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  • [20:58:32] <vaizki_> av500, thanks!
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  • [20:58:58] <vaizki_> ok let's put it this way, will a constant +35?? ambient be a problem?
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  • [21:00:09] <vaizki_> and no I'm not putting it up my ass....
  • [21:00:33] <Crofton|work> once I picked up the vegetables on my bike
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  • [21:01:42] <vaizki_> ok yes I was blind dammit.. gerald says 0-50??C in the google group..
  • [21:02:58] <_av500_> 35 is fine
  • [21:03:43] <wmat> 0C is the min?
  • [21:03:59] <wmat> damn, there fo my plans for the wall
  • [21:04:03] <prpplague> anyone got an eagle lbr for the CAT24C256 used on beagle capes?
  • [21:04:26] <vaizki_> yea the cpu is good to -40 but apparently some other components only rated to 0??C
  • [21:05:19] <vaizki_> I intend to leave mine out for -30??C temperatures.. but it's going to be in a small box so I assume it will be able to heat itself ;)
  • [21:05:32] <wmat> prpplague: https://github.com/CDA0/eagle
  • [21:05:40] <wmat> vaizki_: I guess I have to wait for the BeaverBoard
  • [21:05:59] <wmat> or even better, the WolverineBoard
  • [21:06:01] <vaizki_> BearBoard Polar Edition
  • [21:06:11] <SpeedEvil> In general - you should read the datasheet really carefully.
  • [21:06:28] <wmat> heh
  • [21:06:29] <prpplague> wmat: thanks
  • [21:06:31] <SpeedEvil> It can be that large temperature swings will require a clock recalibration, or the system will crash.
  • [21:06:58] <vaizki_> crash how?
  • [21:06:59] <SpeedEvil> vaizki_: high altitude?
  • [21:07:03] <vaizki_> speed, no
  • [21:07:07] <vaizki_> just Finland
  • [21:07:15] <wmat> canada
  • [21:07:17] <SpeedEvil> vaizki_: The clock stops oscillating, and it dies.
  • [21:07:33] <vaizki_> I'm fine with it rebooting
  • [21:07:40] <SpeedEvil> Doesn't reboot
  • [21:07:45] <SpeedEvil> At least on some platforms
  • [21:07:49] <wmat> until it thaws
  • [21:07:53] <vaizki_> watchdog doesn't reboot it?
  • [21:07:53] <SpeedEvil> IIRC some gumstix did this.
  • [21:07:56] <SpeedEvil> No.
  • [21:07:56] <wmat> reboot on thaw!
  • [21:08:09] <_av500_> below 0 the clock freezes
  • [21:08:23] <_av500_> loading web pages gets awfully slow
  • [21:08:26] <SpeedEvil> Technically - the VCO stops working.
  • [21:08:32] <_av500_> at -10 the cursor stops blinking
  • [21:08:42] <SpeedEvil> Or more accurately - drifts out of operating range.
  • [21:09:13] * SpeedEvil was having problems financially a bit ago.
  • [21:09:28] <SpeedEvil> many gadgets do not charge at below 7C.
  • [21:09:34] * wmat may in a bit
  • [21:09:59] <vaizki_> hmmh
  • [21:10:08] <vaizki_> I may have to put in an an external supervisor then
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  • [21:11:32] <wmat> SpeedEvil: 7C!
  • [21:12:11] <SpeedEvil> Electric blanket ++
  • [21:12:21] <wmat> but then again, who charges their devices in the cold?
  • [21:12:25] <SpeedEvil> I'm saving up so I can properly insulate the house.
  • [21:12:26] <vaizki_> I have some intersil supervisors but I don't think they go to -40 either
  • [21:12:39] <wmat> SpeedEvil: I just insulated my garage
  • [21:13:06] <_av500_> wmat: gotta keep the car warm
  • [21:13:08] <wmat> but I spend a lot of time there
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  • [21:13:23] <wmat> _av500_: nah, no cars in the garage
  • [21:13:26] * _av500_ just insulted the garage
  • [21:14:13] <wmat> warm garages actually rust cars faster in northern climes where salt is used on the roads
  • [21:14:25] <wmat> I just need a place to solder and weld
  • [21:14:46] <_av500_> and that does not heat it up already?
  • [21:15:07] <vaizki_> yea I only have a carport here
  • [21:15:43] <vaizki_> warm garage is a nice idea for cars but only if you keep a hobby car the entire winter
  • [21:16:43] <wmat> _av500_: it does, but when friends are over they keep asking why I have to weld all the time
  • [21:17:25] <_av500_> they ask only once, I presume
  • [21:18:01] <SpeedEvil> For most welding, you need copious ventilation.
  • [21:18:07] <SpeedEvil> So it doesn't really help.
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  • [21:18:18] <wmat> no, but that's only because they're not allowed to drink beer in their garages apparently
  • [21:18:27] <_av500_> I solder fumes but I dont inhale
  • [21:18:48] <SpeedEvil> Stick welding is especially nasty
  • [21:19:05] <vaizki_> speed, umm you can have a fume extractor which filters..?
  • [21:19:23] <SpeedEvil> vaizki_: True.
  • [21:19:32] <_av500_> or a wet rag in your face
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  • [21:38:12] <mranostay> wmat: can't drink beer in a garage? what is this soviet russia?
  • [21:38:46] <SpeedEvil> It's a really bad idea in general.
  • [21:39:10] <SpeedEvil> Gasoline engines spew out all sorts of crap that you do not want on your hands when dealing with food
  • [21:39:17] <SpeedEvil> Maybe not lead anymore.
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  • [21:41:33] <mranostay> food != beer
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  • [21:42:05] <SpeedEvil> You're trying to say that beer isn't food?
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  • [21:50:34] <_av500_> what, I can't have beers while I weld the fule tank? what has become of thois place?
  • [21:50:39] <_av500_> fuel*
  • [21:51:00] <_av500_> also, I dont take the beer into my hands
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  • [21:58:06] <vaizki_> ok this is interesting.. my HVAC raspi has died
  • [21:58:16] <mastiff> i drink beer while welding. fuck ti
  • [22:01:41] <_av500_> vaizki_: too hot or too cold?
  • [22:02:00] <vaizki_> oh it's not controlling anything. just monitoring.
  • [22:02:05] <vaizki_> it's a raspi ffs
  • [22:02:14] <vaizki_> I don't want to die in a fire
  • [22:03:10] <vaizki_> that extra BBB I ordered is finding use faster than I expected...
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  • [22:06:36] <Ahmed_> in the schem.... of bbb it say i2c-1 and i2c-2
  • [22:06:48] <Ahmed_> while when i do i2cdetect -l i get i2c-0 i2c-1
  • [22:07:00] <Ahmed_> and i2c-0 doesnt work only i2c-1 works
  • [22:07:02] <vaizki_> yea linux numbers them from 0
  • [22:07:03] <Ahmed_> any idea?
  • [22:08:43] <mru> linux is not written in fortran
  • [22:08:46] <vaizki_> the i2c-0 goes to the board info eeprom and the PMIC
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  • [22:09:06] <vaizki_> define "doesn't work"
  • [22:09:30] <Ahmed_> so technically beagleboard black just have i2c-1
  • [22:09:39] <Ahmed_> i mean just one i2c working
  • [22:10:13] <Ahmed_> vaizki_: is that right?
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  • [22:13:08] <vaizki_> no no you can get both of them from P9 pins 17-20
  • [22:13:20] <vaizki_> at least based on the SRM
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  • [22:15:44] <prpplague> mranostay: just fyi i have an updated schematic for the release version of the Bacon Cape up - http://www.elinux.org/Bacon_Cape#Design_Files
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  • [22:15:56] <prpplague> mranostay: feel free to review and send feedback
  • [22:17:38] <eli___> anyone playing webM videos in chromium browser on beaglebone black?
  • [22:17:42] <eli___> im getting really choppy video
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  • [22:20:52] <wmat> mranostay: it's all about suburban marital bliss ;)
  • [22:21:08] <mrjazzcat> Can someone validate that I should remove the MLO from the internal eMMC Angstrom (which I upped to 6/20 rel) before trying to boot Sitara on an SD card, which I made from the TI create-sdcard.sh?
  • [22:21:21] <_av500_> prpplague: burning 4 GPIOs on that 7-seg
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  • [22:21:26] <_av500_> what a waste
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  • [22:22:40] <mrjazzcat> Oh, on a BBB, that is
  • [22:22:49] <vaizki_> why would you remove it?
  • [22:22:49] <prpplague> _av500_: recommendations?
  • [22:23:54] <mrjazzcat> vaizki_: because it will boot to Angstrom otherwise. And, I can't get to the damn uboot prompt, because my USB serial drops when the the BBB power cycles. PITA
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  • [22:24:46] <_av500_> prpplague: joking
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  • [22:25:01] <mrjazzcat> I'm guessing my mileage has definitely varied
  • [22:25:21] <prpplague> _av500_: ahh ok
  • [22:27:30] <mru> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/91
  • [22:29:22] <mranostay> wmat: isn't all of canada the burbs? :P
  • [22:31:04] <wmat> mranostay: just withing 100KM of the border
  • [22:31:16] <wmat> mranostay: real canada is north of that
  • [22:32:08] <mranostay> so the parts we wouldn't roll over with tanks in a half hour :P
  • [22:32:12] <_av500_> the permafrost region?
  • [22:32:25] <wmat> mranostay: yes
  • [22:32:37] <mranostay> that is a good plot for a novel... US invades Canada
  • [22:32:44] <_av500_> boring
  • [22:33:02] <mranostay> ok germany
  • [22:33:09] <wmat> mranostay: i think that's a john candy movie
  • [22:33:13] <_av500_> it has already happened
  • [22:33:39] <_av500_> govmt here does not take a dump before asking the US
  • [22:33:46] * wmat will head north when the revoltion comes
  • [22:34:34] <mranostay> _av500_: cool :)
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  • [22:35:33] <mranostay> witty comments and some fisty cuffs?
  • [22:35:59] <wmat> the latter would suffice
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  • [23:14:00] <Kumashiro> Hi guys
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  • [23:16:46] <SpeedEvil> hi
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  • [23:37:15] <mrjazzcat> Anyone using USB->Serial on Ubuntu for BBB? Does your connection drop when board cycles?
  • [23:38:44] <mranostay> heh define drop
  • [23:40:51] <mrjazzcat> mranostay: well, when the board comes up, udev creates a /dev/ttyACM0 - That's how I connect. That device file goes away when the board is off, or power cycles
  • [23:53:51] <mranostay> mrjazzcat: black not white right?
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