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  • [00:00:51] <pru_evtout_2> saying "dig in the mail archive" is like saying "the documentation for this sucks ass"
  • [00:01:24] <martinm> and that's a surprise why? :-/
  • [00:04:01] <pru_evtout_2> it's not :( just a horrible truth about most things in the world, open source or professional.
  • [00:04:59] <mru> the world sucks, deal with it
  • [00:05:21] <robertjw> some people try to make it suck less
  • [00:05:41] <mru> silly optimists
  • [00:05:42] <martinm> thus the existence of wikis, etc.
  • [00:05:45] <mru> they are doomed to fail
  • [00:05:45] <pru_evtout_2> the problem is that writing documentation isn't as fun as writing software
  • [00:05:59] <robertjw> true enough
  • [00:06:01] <mru> and that in turn isn't as fun as writing rants
  • [00:06:10] <pru_evtout_2> lol, true that yo!
  • [00:06:39] <martinm> rants > software > docs ... where's the profit?
  • [00:06:52] <mru> there isn't any
  • [00:06:56] <mru> that's why the world sucks
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  • [00:07:28] <pru_evtout_2> you're as likely to find ladies as profit, in that equation
  • [00:07:59] <mru> and I can assure you there are no ladies to be found there
  • [00:08:02] <mru> I checked
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  • [00:24:09] <ka6sox> mru, you are missing Kristina
  • [00:24:25] <mru> huh
  • [00:27:35] <ka6sox> never mind...
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  • [00:29:07] <mranostay> heh
  • [00:29:22] <mranostay> ka6sox: can we count guys with long hair too?
  • [00:30:05] <mru> I still fail to see their relevance to the discussion
  • [00:30:18] <ka6sox> mru, there is no relavence
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  • [00:30:50] <mru> of course, nothing really matters
  • [00:31:01] <martinm> anyone should see
  • [00:31:13] <mranostay> cheery bunch today
  • [00:31:37] <Kristina> Ultimately, we all die anyway, so why bother?
  • [00:31:39] <martinm> must be all guys with long hair
  • [00:32:01] <mru> speak of the devil
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  • [00:32:19] <Kristina> mru: I think it's called a "highlight"
  • [00:32:28] <mru> the devil's in the highlight
  • [00:32:56] * mranostay handers out highlighters
  • [00:33:06] <mru> Kristina: how's your project coming along anyway?
  • [00:33:45] <Kristina> Hm, need to build kext tools so I can compile kernelcaches
  • [00:33:53] <Kristina> Because at this point, I need actual drivers
  • [00:34:13] <Kristina> I want to write an MMC driver.
  • [00:34:17] <Kristina> Doesn't look too bad.
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  • [00:34:43] <Kristina> It probably looks easy up until the point where nothing actually works as you expect it to work.
  • [00:34:58] <mru> always does
  • [00:36:03] <mranostay> i never expect anything to work
  • [00:36:11] <mru> that's the spirit
  • [00:36:25] <mru> we need more of that healthy realism
  • [00:36:37] <mranostay> i wouldn't call it healthy but true
  • [00:36:46] <mru> truth kills
  • [00:36:50] <Kristina> My 10 hour battle with the DSS goes to show that.
  • [00:37:35] <Kristina> Or maybe I'm just dumb as shit.
  • [00:37:47] <Kristina> I would not like to think that.
  • [00:37:50] <mru> the dss is not to be taken lightly
  • [00:41:49] <ds2> relevance is irrelevant
  • [00:42:10] <ds2> the DSS is a fine creature
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  • [00:42:35] <mru> so here's the dilemma... drink beer and write something about trolls, or drink beer and watch some crap on netflix?
  • [00:42:47] <mru> or drink beer and troll
  • [00:43:17] <ds2> think you need stronger stuff then beer
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  • [00:44:07] <mru> how's that?
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  • [00:45:20] <ds2> pure ethanol?
  • [00:45:28] <mru> ouch
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  • [00:48:41] <mru> ds2: have you read my so-called blog lately?
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  • [00:49:27] <ds2> no
  • [00:49:34] <ds2> don't even recall the URL
  • [00:49:47] <mru> http://hardwarebug.org/
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  • [00:50:44] <ptl> Kristina: what's this DSS you talked about?
  • [00:50:55] <Kristina> display subsystem thing
  • [00:53:03] <ptl> hmm, this meaning of the acronym is not on wikipedia :P
  • [00:53:42] <SpeedEvil> Because it's a functional unit name of one chip series.
  • [00:53:42] <ptl> found it on elinux
  • [00:53:50] <SpeedEvil> It is probably not a common algorithm
  • [00:53:55] <SpeedEvil> acronym
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  • [00:55:26] <mranostay> mru: you have a blog?
  • [00:56:23] <mranostay> ah you started posting again
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  • [00:59:17] <mru> mranostay: only when I have something to say
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  • [01:05:06] <bradfa_> coffee has worn off
  • [01:05:17] <mru> get more
  • [01:05:31] <bradfa_> I considered it
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  • [01:05:49] <bradfa_> or beer
  • [01:05:53] <bradfa_> but then I'd be too much like mranostay
  • [01:06:02] <mru> :)
  • [01:06:14] <mru> one's enough
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  • [01:47:59] <kaektech> Sigh. Why did I bitbake the whole f-ing thing instead of just the kernel. Oh well, guess I'll go watch basketball.
  • [01:48:37] <bradfa_> kaektech, you can always stop and start again :)
  • [01:48:43] <bradfa_> or buy a faster machine
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  • [01:49:11] <ds2> why did you bitbake the whole f-ing thing?
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  • [01:52:48] <Shadyman> lol
  • [01:52:54] <Shadyman> Bitbake ALL THE THINGS!
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  • [01:54:53] <myself> Dumb question: Does a prototyping cape like http://www.adafruit.com/products/572 made for the original 'bone work on the Black too?
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  • [01:55:11] <ptl> myself: there's a list of compatible capes for the beaglebone black
  • [01:56:05] <ptl> http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBone_Capes
  • [01:56:58] <myself> thank you
  • [01:57:36] <ptl> huh... not that page
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  • [01:58:03] <myself> this one: http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBone_Black_Capes
  • [01:58:46] <myself> that implies no changes in the prototyping stuff, so should be good.
  • [01:59:22] <myself> I'm the electronics lab manager of the i3detroit hackerspace and not a beagle user myself yet, but I'm placing an order with adafruit and figured I "might as well" throw a proto cape in the beagle bin so it's there in case someone needs it..
  • [01:59:49] <myself> so thank you for the advice :) it helps our users evetually.. heh
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  • [02:05:18] <pru_evtout_2> holly crap, loving cmake.
  • [02:05:45] <pru_evtout_2> so friggin much.
  • [02:06:15] <pru_evtout_2> it's absurdly easy.
  • [02:06:28] <pru_evtout_2> (compared to handwritten make at least)
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  • [02:35:00] <jkridner|work> myself: have we met up at i3?
  • [02:36:14] <myself> jkridner|work: I lurked around the perimeter of the last beagle meetup, but I don't know if we've chatted person-to-person much. I'm the long-haired guy who talks a lot at meetings.
  • [02:36:29] <jkridner|work> k. :-)
  • [02:36:44] <myself> oh, I'm Nate B.
  • [02:36:52] <myself> Putting a name to the handle. Hah.
  • [02:37:02] <jkridner|work> ah. that helps!
  • [02:37:40] <jkridner|work> the protocape doesn't do anything but give you an easy way to solder things up to the Black (or Bone).
  • [02:37:48] <jkridner|work> it is pretty handy.
  • [02:37:59] <mranostay> oh jkridner|work is here
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  • [02:38:30] <jkridner|work> If you want to get HDMI on the Bone, you'll need an HDMI cape and a memory cape with eMMC.
  • [02:38:40] <myself> aaaaaaand it turns out adafruit is out of stock :p
  • [02:38:52] <jkridner|work> (though you'll never get the 1GHz and 512MB RAM on a Bone-white)
  • [02:39:01] <jkridner|work> even of the protocape?
  • [02:39:15] <myself> http://www.adafruit.com/products/572
  • [02:39:20] <jkridner|work> the circuitco prototyping cape is handy in that it comes with a solderless breadboard and some wires.
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  • [02:43:10] <jkridner|work> I can drop a protocape by next week when I come into the space.
  • [02:43:29] <jkridner|work> hi mranostay
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  • [02:57:28] <ssi> analysis paralysis :/
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  • [03:09:02] <mranostay> jkridner|work: how is it nodejs world? :)
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  • [03:41:16] <mranostay> yo yo emeb_mac
  • [03:41:37] <emeb_mac> yo yo mranostay
  • [03:41:44] <emeb_mac> que paso?
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  • [03:42:26] <ka6sox> what, no FPGA man?
  • [03:45:24] <emeb_mac> yeah - I feel short-changed.
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  • [03:59:02] <Chrome_> Has anyone been able to get a webcam to stream on the beaglebone running angstrom?
  • [04:01:01] <mranostay> emeb_mac: it can remain unsaid
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  • [04:12:38] <ka6sox> mranostay, -1
  • [04:13:00] <ka6sox> mranostay, I'm disappointed...
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  • [04:17:13] <mranostay> you are about to add to that
  • [04:18:13] <martinm> Just FYI, since I had to scrape this together from various fragmented, incomplete, and just plain wrong sources after y'all helped me get connected over hardware ethernet... The missing part of getting BB Black working over the USB ether bridge is that the host side has to ifconfig eth1 192.168.7.1 netmask 255.255.255.252 (for Debian squeeze; device name may vary with kernel build and udev rules)
  • [04:18:16] <mranostay> rather i am
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  • [04:18:52] <ka6sox> mranostay, I can outrun an M134
  • [04:19:32] <mranostay> with a hello kitty helmet?
  • [04:19:41] <mastiff> let me know if you figure out how to get two BBBs working with usb eth on the same host.
  • [04:19:47] <ka6sox> curse you mranostay
  • [04:20:48] <mranostay> hehehe blame av500
  • [04:21:07] <martinm> mastiff, if you send me a second one I will attempt it. probably just takes changing the IP address block one of them configures
  • [04:21:39] <mastiff> it should work just changing the interfaces file on one to a different ip, but something overwrites it that I haven't found yet
  • [04:21:49] <mastiff> not overwrites, overrides
  • [04:21:54] <martinm> so as I am coming to think of as usual, the root of the problem is just finding how this bleeping distro works
  • [04:22:29] <mastiff> Forgot I haven't tried it since changing one to debian. Might work on that.
  • [04:23:43] <martinm> one of the indirectly helpful threads I saw talked about how interfaces isn't used on the B(B(B)), though it wasn't entirely clear what system image they were discussing
  • [04:24:39] <mastiff> that's because mranostay wrote it
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  • [04:34:14] <ka6sox> mastiff, +1
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  • [05:00:22] <mastiff> ka6sox: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l42mZ7BDB9A
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  • [05:04:35] <ka6sox> interesting
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  • [05:07:22] <mranostay> hello kitty morning to all
  • [05:08:34] <ssi> ok!
  • [05:13:43] <mranostay> goddamn forgot application passwords for gmail + git send-email
  • [05:14:57] <av500> 1234
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  • [05:18:52] <ka6sox> hellokitty?
  • [05:19:12] <av500> catnip
  • [05:19:43] <emeb_mac> three apples
  • [05:20:49] <ka6sox> thislittlepiggy
  • [05:21:54] <mranostay> av500: patch up on lkml for you to troll
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  • [05:23:55] <av500> mranostay: DT for x86?
  • [05:25:38] <ka6sox> mranostay: thats so tiny...why bother? wait till you really have something to contribute
  • [05:26:41] <mranostay> ka6sox: bah bugfix that annoys me :)
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  • [05:27:12] <ka6sox> you got the signed off by wrong.
  • [05:27:27] <splud> what's up with crond?
  • [05:27:48] <ka6sox> splud, its down
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  • [05:28:06] <splud> service is running, and crontab -e gets me to the file for root, but if I add an entry to just touch a file in /tmp/, it never gets invoked.
  • [05:28:31] <splud> this is on a black
  • [05:29:25] <splud> curiously, the ps|grep crond shows the -n parm -- which is run in foreground.
  • [05:30:12] <mranostay> personal patch so signed off is correct
  • [05:30:49] <mranostay> koen: you around?
  • [05:31:04] <splud> if I run 'systemctl start crond', the process gets started, always with -n, but the parm isn't in /etc/sysconfig/crond
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  • [05:33:10] <splud> journalctl shows an entry for crond saying that "@reboot jobs will be run at computer's startup", but no error saying the root cron failed to parse, etc.
  • [05:37:11] <splud> okay, no help there. How about how to get the sd card working?
  • [05:37:40] <splud> If I put a formatted (e2fs) card in, the beagle doesn't show it as an available device.
  • [05:38:07] <splud> If I put a card reader on the system, I can mount and manipulate the SD there, but not onboard.
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  • [05:51:55] <mranostay> anyone know something about rfid spoofing? :)
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  • [05:56:39] <splud> I've tinkered with rfid for my own stuff, but not attempted to spoof it. Lack the hardware. Have a couple of door lock panels which operate solenoids.
  • [05:58:14] <mranostay> splud: 125khz or 13.56mhz?
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  • [06:01:12] <splud> 125k
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  • [06:11:35] <_Sy_> morning
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  • [06:13:20] <mranostay> _Sy_: hello kitty morning to you as well
  • [06:13:52] <BeaglyBeagly> morning
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  • [06:20:05] <philenotfound> prpplague: pong
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  • [06:48:31] <Prasanna> hi..
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  • [06:50:31] <Prasanna> i have beaglebone white.. i want to put ethercat slave app to SD then wanna boot..
  • [06:53:18] <dm8tbr> just do it then
  • [06:54:49] <Prasanna> problem is do i need to load bootloader first then slave app?/
  • [06:55:38] <dm8tbr> I guess. what is that slave app?
  • [06:55:52] <av500> Prasanna: running linux?
  • [06:56:09] <Prasanna> forget about slave app just app..
  • [06:56:20] <Prasanna> no i am on windows
  • [06:57:14] <av500> on the beagle
  • [06:57:26] <Prasanna> no..
  • [06:57:39] <av500> so what are you running?
  • [06:58:19] <Prasanna> on the beagle ? ans : yes. beaglebone white
  • [06:58:36] <splud> what is the process for getting the BBBK to recognize the SD while the system is running? Or is it really strictly for an alternative OS load?
  • [06:58:39] <dm8tbr> what operating system are you running on the beaglebone white?
  • [06:59:04] <splud> Seems intensely silly that the beagle can't access the microSD when booted from MMC.
  • [06:59:31] <dm8tbr> splud: I think the card needs to be inserted during boot at the moment for the OS to see it
  • [06:59:34] <mastiff> it is silly
  • [06:59:40] <dm8tbr> splud: but I think there is a fix coming
  • [07:00:02] <splud> "during boot" ?
  • [07:00:08] <mastiff> it works if you write uEnv.txt in magic marker
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  • [07:01:55] <mastiff> i know it works if you boot with SD in
  • [07:02:19] <mastiff> not sure if renumeration is working
  • [07:02:42] <Prasanna> i am new to this.. really the OS is required one before loading any app.. can u tell or give me a link for ref?
  • [07:03:00] <splud> Hrm, I was tinkering with it at work, came home, botted, and it wouldn't start - then I realized that the SD was in (from having tried to mount it while at work), removed and reset it. and then it booted fine.
  • [07:03:27] <splud> mastiff: you mean "enumeration" ?
  • [07:03:54] <mastiff> sure
  • [07:04:45] <Prasanna> dm8tbr:i am new to this.. OS is required one before loading any app.. can u tell or give me a link for ref?
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  • [07:15:17] <dm8tbr> Prasanna: most people here run linux on their beaglebones
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  • [07:26:23] <splud> found a doc discussing installation of gentoo on BBBK. That had info on a format script and a file to create. Rebooting my BBBK, and the device was found. Screwed that it has to be there at boot and such a specific format.
  • [07:27:03] <splud> Would be nice to be able to insert and mount devices at will (as with via a device reader, which I can plug in via USB).
  • [07:27:45] <splud> Of course, being flash, it'd be really nice if the beagle supported yaffs or similar filesystems.
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  • [07:46:44] <personDo> do they record and analyse every word we type????????????
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  • [07:57:16] <matianfu> does anyone know if beaglebone black really used TPS65217C (support 1.5V DDR3) and micron MT41K256M16HA-125, which is actually a 1.35V DDR3-L chip?
  • [07:58:42] <matianfu> The information is conflicting. TI said TPS65217C only support DDR3 and for DDR3L you need TPS65217D, but BBB_SRM sail TPS65217C support both and BBB uses 1.5V DDR3
  • [07:59:29] <matianfu> I checked sch and bom and micron manual, MT41Kxxx is indeed a 1.35V DDR3L chip.
  • [07:59:43] <matianfu> Anybody can explain this? Thanks.
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  • [08:03:14] <panto> gm
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  • [08:04:43] <student> test
  • [08:05:14] <student> does anyone has experience in developing a java webserver under beagle board?
  • [08:05:34] <student> i am going to develop a spring-mvc java framework based webserver with jetty
  • [08:05:44] <panto> no, but there's no difference than developing in it on your host
  • [08:05:51] <panto> it will still suck, but hey, that's java
  • [08:06:00] <student> my aim is to control some thermostats with enocean transceiver
  • [08:06:12] <panto> and you need friggin java for that?
  • [08:06:58] <student> yes...i want to use the model view controller based web-architecture for the system
  • [08:07:36] <panto> you're not answering
  • [08:07:47] <panto> why would you want to use java for that?
  • [08:08:10] <panto> I guarantee you it will just suck
  • [08:08:27] <student> because the application is portable on perhaps another system
  • [08:08:29] <panto> the only reason java doesn't suck on servers is that you have ample memory and cpu
  • [08:08:36] <panto> bs
  • [08:08:49] <student> do you have antother solution for it ?
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  • [08:08:54] <panto> portable C even C++, python, ruby, javascript, whatever
  • [08:09:01] <panto> say no to bloat
  • [08:09:11] <panto> your application is just trivial
  • [08:09:45] <student> i tested the java-app under raspberry pi, it works well but the cpu might have more performance
  • [08:10:07] <student> so i decided to test it under beagle
  • [08:10:16] <panto> it's going to be at best 2 times faster
  • [08:10:30] <panto> it's not the cpu that's the limiting factor
  • [08:10:33] <panto> it's java bloat
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  • [08:11:33] <SpeedEvil> I was 'amused' to see java on my PC take about 6 seconds to start
  • [08:11:37] <student> ok, what recommondation could you give?
  • [08:11:56] <SpeedEvil> it did the same about 14 years ago, on much slower hw
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  • [08:12:03] <av500> cortex A8 runs android just fine :)
  • [08:12:29] <panto> av500, it's hardly java though
  • [08:12:39] <panto> it's cut down to the bones, special google java
  • [08:12:44] <av500> its javanough
  • [08:12:49] <panto> it's still crap
  • [08:13:04] <av500> no it has angry birds
  • [08:13:22] <panto> and I did write a full dalvik vm backend for ppc to know that
  • [08:13:37] <panto> angry birds is just blits
  • [08:13:53] <av500> angry blits
  • [08:14:00] <panto> cpu wise on panda was less than 10% load
  • [08:14:18] <panto> now facebook app otoh, talk about bloat
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  • [08:14:21] <av500> stop confusing us with facts!
  • [08:14:34] <panto> yeah, ok
  • [08:14:39] <av500> :)
  • [08:14:44] <av500> need breakfast
  • [08:14:44] <panto> disregard everything, java everywhere!
  • [08:15:31] <student> ^^
  • [08:16:49] <panto> just don't dare come and bitch about performance
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  • [08:24:43] <av500> tiropita
  • [08:26:52] <panto> hum, good idea
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  • [09:17:39] <narcos> Hey Beaglers. I'd like to power my hub and beagle off a single 4A PSU. i've found a 5.5mm Y splitter, but my hub has a 3.1mm input - anyone know where I can buy a 5.5mm to 3.1mm converter?
  • [09:18:21] <philenotfound> panto: can you pastebin your dts for the lcd7 from yesterday?
  • [09:18:59] <panto> https://github.com/pantoniou/linux-bbxm/blob/not-capebus-v31/firmware/capes/BB-BONE-LCD7-01-00A3.dts
  • [09:19:11] <panto> yours is A2 right?
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  • [09:19:26] <panto> I was told that A2 uses slightly different panel than A3
  • [09:19:28] <panto> https://github.com/pantoniou/linux-bbxm/blob/not-capebus-v31/firmware/capes/BB-BONE-LCD7-01-00A2.dts
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  • [09:22:38] <philenotfound> panto: i'll check it out, thanks
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  • [09:23:00] <panto> if you get it to work perfectly sent me a patch against that dts
  • [09:24:56] <philenotfound> panto: it works perfectly.. but vbp is still 30?
  • [09:25:21] <philenotfound> and i thought you said something about invert-pxl-clk?
  • [09:25:28] <panto> it's 30
  • [09:25:53] <av500> narcos: no idea
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  • [09:25:59] <av500> if needed, solder something
  • [09:26:09] <av500> or get a hub that has 5.1mm
  • [09:26:10] <philenotfound> anyway, now it's 100% accurate on my A2
  • [09:26:17] <philenotfound> thanks
  • [09:26:28] <panto> philenotfound, np
  • [09:26:45] <panto> btw, 3.2 was off too
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  • [09:26:58] <panto> so we carried the same settings
  • [09:27:08] <panto> anyway, it should be fine now
  • [09:27:17] <philenotfound> panto: let me guess? one line to the top?
  • [09:27:24] <panto> yeah
  • [09:27:47] <philenotfound> so it never really was 29 in the first place
  • [09:27:48] <panto> it's hard to notice if you're not looking at it very closely
  • [09:28:06] <panto> it's a big mess, let me tell you that :)
  • [09:28:12] <philenotfound> i first noticed it on my bbw with 3.8
  • [09:28:13] <panto> anyway, it's fixed now
  • [09:28:33] <panto> new angstrom release coming soon
  • [09:28:43] <philenotfound> because it was a few pixels off, never noticed it on 3.2
  • [09:29:01] <philenotfound> panto: i don't use angstrom
  • [09:29:53] <panto> I don't mind, you still use the same kernel :)
  • [09:30:19] <philenotfound> yeah, btw is there a real kernel repo? or just the patches repo?
  • [09:31:02] <panto> there's a real kernel repo
  • [09:31:19] <panto> but due to constant rebasing it's not wise to track it
  • [09:32:42] <philenotfound> hmm, because i'm trying to submit a bbb_defconfig for buildroot where a real kernel repo would have helped
  • [09:33:36] <panto> philenotfound, talk with koen
  • [09:34:05] <philenotfound> k
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  • [10:02:40] <mrpackethead> i just depelted the Mouser stock of Beagles
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  • [10:11:06] <av500> how many?
  • [10:11:33] <das> I've got a UDP joke but I'm not sure you'll get it
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  • [10:11:54] <Humpelstilzchen> lol
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  • [10:13:21] <RagBal> Haha
  • [10:15:04] <av500> I've got a RealVideo j....buffering...
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  • [10:15:43] <das> I wanted to use thread to solve a problem. two problems. I now have
  • [10:15:52] <mrpackethead> das... ca ching
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  • [10:33:30] <Kristina> Out of curiosity, you people talk about trolls a lot, does this room get them often?
  • [10:34:09] <av500> nah
  • [10:34:17] <Kristina> I wouldn't think that anyone would be up to trolling a room with a bunch of hardware and low level sw people :/
  • [10:34:28] <av500> we keep them at bay
  • [10:34:35] <av500> with preemptive counter trolling
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  • [10:46:17] <mrpackethead> das: i'd like to shake your hand for sharing the UDP joke with us. But i cant'.
  • [10:46:52] <das> I could always tell you that TCP joke until you get it
  • [10:46:53] <das> I could always tell you that TCP joke until you get it
  • [10:46:53] <das> I could always tell you that TCP joke until you get it
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  • [10:47:55] <das> mrpackethead: we could use SSL to shake hands
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  • [11:05:12] <Tenkawa> ok.. got to say.. so far the beaglebone black is a really neat board to use.
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  • [11:52:43] <bradfa> prpplague, you don't need to use the suite number to ship to me if you put the company name on the address
  • [11:53:13] <prpplague> bradfa: yea they went ahead and put the suite number anyway, they shipped yesterday
  • [11:53:22] <bradfa> that's cool, thanks! :)
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  • [11:57:55] <av500> bradfa: you work in a suite?
  • [11:58:08] <mru> or a suit?
  • [11:58:10] <av500> is that well suited?
  • [11:58:10] <bradfa> I definitely don't work in a suit
  • [11:58:19] <panto> back
  • [11:58:19] <bradfa> current shirt has stains on it...
  • [11:58:24] <mru> suit of armour?
  • [11:58:25] <bradfa> just noticed...
  • [11:58:27] <av500> and the voltage shirt?
  • [11:58:43] <mru> wear both for a power shirt
  • [11:58:53] <av500> mru: armour is more a resistance shirt
  • [11:59:10] <bradfa> what about chain mail?
  • [11:59:16] <mru> inductance
  • [11:59:26] <av500> bradfa: if you have @aol, sure
  • [11:59:33] <jackmitchell> I though chain mail stopped with myspace
  • [12:00:01] <mru> apparently it's rife on facebook
  • [12:00:07] <jackmitchell> the horror
  • [12:00:14] <mru> heard someone complaining about it in the pub the other day
  • [12:00:26] <mru> you can learn all sorts of things there
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  • [12:00:55] <bradfa> rifles on facebook?
  • [12:01:02] <windu> hi all !
  • [12:01:17] <bradfa> The Google Summer of Code Mentor Summit is approaching!
  • [12:01:32] <panto> bradfa, when is that?
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  • [12:01:34] <mru> the end of time is approaching
  • [12:01:41] <av500> one day each day
  • [12:01:43] <panto> -ETIMEDOUT
  • [12:01:51] <bradfa> panto, october
  • [12:02:20] <bradfa> I work with windows programmers, sometimes things go slow
  • [12:03:05] <panto> link?
  • [12:03:20] <av500> panto: g o o g l e
  • [12:03:37] <mru> zelda?
  • [12:03:53] <bradfa> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-summer-of-code-mentors-list/pVFB1t38cPY/tu1VJa0z1KoJ
  • [12:04:08] <bradfa> it's an "unconference"
  • [12:04:09] <anujdeshpande> prpplague: http://beagleboard.org/project/userspace-arduino/
  • [12:06:46] <LX3KR> Software defined radio on the web with a BeagleBoard Black -> http://gpsntp.dyndns.org:8901/
  • [12:07:07] <teralaser> why isn't the ZCZ package (for the AM355x) documented on TI's site ? http://www.ti.com/sc/docs/psheets/mechanic.htm
  • [12:07:28] <bradfa> teralaser, it is
  • [12:07:41] <bradfa> just not there
  • [12:07:50] <bradfa> it should be in am335x data sheet
  • [12:08:24] <av500> so many packages
  • [12:08:26] <av500> so little time
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  • [12:09:12] <teralaser> bradfa : it's not in the datasheet (that's a typical TI thing)
  • [12:09:24] <av500> LX3KR: it needs java
  • [12:09:55] <teralaser> bradfa : ah nevermind, it is
  • [12:10:00] <LX3KR> Only in your browser
  • [12:10:23] <windu> I want to build Kernel for my BB A6 and this command doesn't work : --> http://www.pastebin.com/uVZR6P3K
  • [12:10:25] <av500> not in yours?
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  • [12:11:45] <av500> windu: works here
  • [12:11:54] <bradfa> windu, works here
  • [12:11:55] <vrb> I am trying bbb + lcd7 cape + camera cape..
  • [12:11:55] <robertjw> LX3KR: they are cheating by using the softrock lite for their rf frontend. I would be impressed someone were to use a PRU for software defined radio.
  • [12:12:00] <av500> can you ping git.kernel.org
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  • [12:12:03] <vrb> does not seem to work
  • [12:12:24] <vrb> bbb + cam cape or bbb + lcd7 seems ok
  • [12:12:59] <vrb> anybody seen this before?
  • [12:13:03] <LX3KR> That would be good, maybe in the future
  • [12:13:28] <panto> vrb, what is not working?
  • [12:13:37] <panto> there could be a resource conflict
  • [12:13:46] <windu> av500, bradfa : Ok I think I have a network issue, thats weird because I'm able to sudo apt-get install several packages ...
  • [12:14:00] <av500> get a better network
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  • [12:15:37] <robertjw> LX3KR: nevertheless, you have an impressive implementation, nicely done
  • [12:15:58] <vrb> panto: it does not seem to boot or is hung midway.
  • [12:16:05] <panto> hum
  • [12:16:12] <vrb> I am using 3.2 kernel from rowboat btw
  • [12:16:13] <panto> yeah, try booting from external mmc
  • [12:16:23] <panto> vrb, oh, you're on your own then
  • [12:16:34] <panto> ask the rowboat guys
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  • [12:21:46] <BeagleGithub> [kernel] koenkooi pushed 3 new commits to 3.8: http://git.io/CTm26w
  • [12:21:46] <BeagleGithub> kernel/3.8 cf6dc20 Koen Kooi: 3.8: fix tsl2550 readings in low-light...
  • [12:21:46] <BeagleGithub> kernel/3.8 4c8950d Koen Kooi: 3.8: disable eMMC till capemanager activates it to avoid glitches with capes using those pins...
  • [12:21:46] <BeagleGithub> kernel/3.8 c343ccd Koen Kooi: 3.8: fix LCD7 vsync length...
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  • [12:22:27] <panto> koen, make sure you have firmware built-in=y for that second patch
  • [12:22:53] <panto> cause if emmc is your rootfs, you'll got a problem
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  • [12:23:22] <panto> you can specify firmware blobs to be included explicitly too
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  • [12:25:51] <koen> panto: I have it as Y, already checked that :)
  • [12:25:53] <BeagleGithub> [kernel] koenkooi pushed 1 new commit to 3.8: http://git.io/g9UMpw
  • [12:25:53] <BeagleGithub> kernel/3.8 ed55d1d Koen Kooi: 3.8: enable HTB net scheduler...
  • [12:26:30] <Ratin> hi all, anybody here know how to make the flasher image of for the eMMC based on the system snapshot running from an micro-SD ? I am running Ubuntu 13.04
  • [12:27:37] <av500> mru: yes, todays wondermark was for you :)
  • [12:28:09] <av500> koen: ^^^ flasher how?
  • [12:28:11] <mru> I blame my previous job
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  • [12:28:48] <av500> mru: this is not about blame
  • [12:28:56] <koen> av500: the question involves ubuntu, no idea on that
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  • [12:29:30] <av500> koen: is the make_flasher script somewhere?
  • [12:29:52] <mru> sometimes I wonder if a life of ignorance would be easier
  • [12:30:52] <koen> av500: the stock used for the angstrom builds is in the meta-beagleboard repo, mentioned multiple times in the google group
  • [12:30:56] <koen> (as is the ubuntu version, btw)
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  • [12:48:33] <droogie> mru, life in ignorance is percieved easier, verifying it actually requires data which breaks ignorance
  • [12:49:45] <mru> I mean, there are people who drink crap coffee and cheap lager, watch eastenders, and shop in aldi, yet still seem rather happy about it all
  • [12:50:52] <SpeedEvil> Aldi has some decent products - if you pick carefully
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  • [12:51:05] <av500> they are ignorant
  • [12:51:23] <mru> SpeedEvil: yes, but in the more upmarket shops you don't need to be as selective
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  • [12:51:38] <droogie> ofcourse, emotions are created by exposing yourself to contrast in some way or other. If you eliminate the contrast, for by example not drinking good lager, you've removed the possibility for emotions to arise from that condition.
  • [12:51:50] <av500> Aldi parking lots in Germany are full of beamers and merces
  • [12:52:01] * SpeedEvil is having severe problems with food budget. :/
  • [12:52:04] <mru> av500: so?
  • [12:52:12] <SpeedEvil> It is decidedly annoying.
  • [12:52:17] <KotH> av500: turkish people need to save money, so they can afford the mercedes
  • [12:52:36] <KotH> SpeedEvil: *g*
  • [12:52:40] <KotH> SpeedEvil: i know that...
  • [12:52:46] <KotH> SpeedEvil: about 1/3 of my salary goes on food
  • [12:53:01] <av500> KotH: that does not explain the beamers
  • [12:53:07] <mru> I have no idea how much I spend on food
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  • [12:53:22] <mru> only that it's less than I earn
  • [12:53:31] <KotH> av500: it does
  • [12:53:44] <KotH> av500: those turkish who dont like benz, buy a beamer :)
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  • [12:54:03] <mru> a nice car is a status symbol
  • [12:54:14] <mru> it's something you show off to the entire world when you're out driving it
  • [12:54:22] <mru> nobody knows what junk is on your dinner plate
  • [12:54:33] <av500> true
  • [12:54:38] <av500> yet Aldi is not that bad
  • [12:54:43] <av500> at least here
  • [12:54:54] <mru> well, lidl then
  • [12:54:55] <av500> in the past years it mutated into a more or less regular super market
  • [12:55:00] <av500> with less choice, sure
  • [12:55:41] <mru> that's beside the point
  • [12:55:44] <av500> most funny is the fact that they do stock a few brands, because for these specific product, germans dont buy anything else
  • [12:55:50] <av500> like HAribo gummy bears :)
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  • [12:56:36] <KotH> av500: come to .ch, we have the cheaper brands as well :)
  • [12:56:57] <av500> KotH: you grew up on Migros
  • [12:57:14] <KotH> mru: whether you belive in status symbols or not, whether you need to show of or not depends on you.
  • [12:57:29] <KotH> mru: you can choose that way of living, which is flashy and loud, or choose another, more silent one
  • [12:57:29] <mru> KotH: point being?
  • [12:57:32] <KotH> av500: true that
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  • [12:57:55] <KotH> mru: what you are doing is up to you, dont compare yourself too much with others. they dont matter.
  • [12:58:13] <mru> KotH: point being?
  • [12:58:46] <KotH> mru: you worry too much
  • [12:58:48] <mru> how does that relate to noticing bad typography and overzealous colour grading?
  • [12:59:00] <mru> KotH: what makes you say that?
  • [12:59:37] <KotH> mru: what you have said/written in the last couple of years
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  • [13:09:45] <Crofton|work> Sp #trolls is unavailable
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  • [13:11:02] <ynezz> #fridaytrolls is full also
  • [13:11:16] <ynezz> #aldi ?
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  • [13:13:57] <av500> #alditrolls
  • [13:15:49] <georgem> I just bought a nice set of beer glasses from ALDI
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  • [13:16:10] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX7zpIz4sb0 - on that topic at 0:12 or so.
  • [13:16:37] <SpeedEvil> (Caution, contains humor)
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  • [13:26:25] <KotH> humor? on a friday? unpossible!
  • [13:27:24] <mru> humour is a conspiracy to cover up the true awfulness of everything
  • [13:28:17] <av500> hmm, we had our friday yesterday, we might need to get one from the emergency reserve
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  • [13:28:32] <KotH> moin alan_o
  • [13:28:44] <alan_o> hey
  • [13:28:44] <SpeedEvil> mru: I find frankie Boyle wonderfully acerbic and nihilistic on that nore.
  • [13:28:44] <KotH> av500: you could just declare today another-friday :)
  • [13:28:47] <SpeedEvil> note
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  • [14:00:13] <Ratin> anybody here know how to make the flasher image of for the eMMC based on the system snapshot running from an micro-SD ? I am running Ubuntu 13.040
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  • [14:02:46] <av500> [14:30:51] <koen> av500: the stock used for the angstrom builds is in the meta-beagleboard repo, mentioned multiple times in the google group
  • [14:02:48] <av500> [14:30:56] <koen> (as is the ubuntu version, btw)
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  • [14:45:57] <ka6sox> mourning
  • [14:46:36] <av500> hath borken
  • [14:46:43] <panto> hi ka6sox
  • [14:47:00] <ka6sox> av500, +1
  • [14:47:05] <ka6sox> morning panto...
  • [14:47:26] <ka6sox> well...my dts at least compiles :)
  • [14:47:45] <panto> \o/
  • [14:47:49] <panto> \o\
  • [14:47:53] <panto> /o/
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  • [14:48:34] <ka6sox> and with the patch I just saw go in we might be able to configure the FPGA with the eMMC still on the planet.
  • [14:49:34] <panto> you should
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  • [14:49:56] <ant_work> go for in on weekend, forget wife and hobbies
  • [14:50:27] <ka6sox> ant_work, heading to a B3 concert?
  • [14:50:34] <ant_work> heh
  • [14:50:56] <ant_work> I'l lhave to listen live to that Barbara in Germany
  • [14:51:03] <ant_work> I hope soon
  • [14:51:16] <ka6sox> if she comes here, I'd like to go.
  • [14:53:04] <ant_work> ka6sox: San Diego ?
  • [14:53:07] <ant_work> http://www.barbaradennerlein.com/en/itinerary/index.php
  • [14:53:33] <av500> bradfa: what cruel things are you doing to your beagle?
  • [14:54:02] <ka6sox> ant_work, dang...I'll be on Half Dome that day...
  • [14:54:20] <bradfa> av500, my epoxy question?
  • [14:54:27] <av500> wow, real audio files
  • [14:54:36] <av500> bradfa: yes
  • [14:54:52] <mru> real audiophiles
  • [14:54:54] <av500> elevator music
  • [14:55:07] <ka6sox> ant_work, I have reservations to climb half dome that day
  • [14:56:50] <ant_work> ka6sox: "As late as the 1870s, Half Dome was described as "perfectly inaccessible"
  • [14:56:51] <ka6sox> panto, I don't think this patch will help
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  • [14:57:08] <ka6sox> some of us are still crazy to climb it
  • [14:57:08] <panto> which patch?
  • [14:57:19] <panto> I'm burried in patches
  • [14:57:30] <bradfa> av500, batch of white labels I ordered got built wrong and have mini USB connectors on them with epoxy, I need to remove them...
  • [14:57:39] <ka6sox> panto: kernel/3.8 4c8950d Koen Kooi: 3.8: disable eMMC till capemanager activates it to avoid glitches with capes using those pins...
  • [14:58:12] <ka6sox> the problem is that the eMMC pins are inputs to the FPGA and mess with its configuration...
  • [14:58:18] <av500> bradfa: due to height?
  • [14:58:41] <ka6sox> because there is NO capebus reset separate from system_rstn
  • [14:58:47] <panto> ka6sox, yah
  • [14:59:05] <panto> we can't fix every hardware issue with software
  • [14:59:16] <ka6sox> sadly, no
  • [14:59:31] <bradfa> av500, due to it sticks out from the side of the board and a big metal plate won't fit then
  • [14:59:56] <bradfa> work order said don't populate, cco populated
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  • [15:00:29] <jackmitchell> :?,
  • [15:00:46] <bradfa> wouldn't be so bad if they didn't apply the epoxy
  • [15:00:53] <jackmitchell> I'm eagerly awaiting my first prototypes from cco soon; I'm hoping for success!
  • [15:00:54] <mru> jackmitchell: vi commands don't work in irc
  • [15:01:12] <alan_o> :q!
  • [15:01:26] <bradfa> jackmitchell, I'm sorry to say we won't be going back to cco if we can avoid it, havent had good experiences, this is just our most recent
  • [15:01:29] <av500> CTRL-K X
  • [15:01:36] <alan_o> +1
  • [15:02:00] <bradfa> moving to a SoM asap and probably away from TI with it
  • [15:02:16] <jackmitchell> bradfa: eek, well, fingers crossed; it's a BBB with low profile headers and other headers removed - shouldn't be too complicated
  • [15:02:40] <jackmitchell> but we're also looking into using the fpga/soc combos from Altera
  • [15:02:49] <jackmitchell> so it may come to nothing anyway
  • [15:02:52] <bradfa> nios2 too?
  • [15:03:02] <jackmitchell> no, no, the new ones
  • [15:03:04] <bradfa> ah, ok
  • [15:03:05] <jackmitchell> dual core a9s
  • [15:03:12] <bradfa> sounds pricy :)
  • [15:03:33] <jackmitchell> heh; I'm sure it will be ;)
  • [15:03:44] <ka6sox> bradfa, anything with dual a9's + FPGA is...
  • [15:03:49] <ka6sox> the Zynq is brutal.
  • [15:04:02] <bradfa> I'll stick with arm9, a8 and a5 (go go Atmel!) for now :0
  • [15:04:27] <ka6sox> plenty of room at the bottom
  • [15:04:46] <bradfa> cheap, easy to design in, good enough for me :)
  • [15:05:00] <bradfa> maybe possibley sort of mainline support, too!
  • [15:05:25] * bradfa is hungry...
  • [15:05:29] <jackmitchell> yeah; I'm keeping an eye on the socfpga (stupid name!) work, and the mainline stuff actually looks to be progressing fairly well
  • [15:06:23] <bradfa> where's mranostay?
  • [15:06:36] <mru> probably hung over
  • [15:06:55] <av500> or to drunk to irc
  • [15:07:09] <ka6sox> jackmitchell, the nios2 stuff is pretty nice, worked with that a little
  • [15:07:17] <bradfa> wonder if he has breathalizer attached to keyboard at work
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  • [15:07:55] <ka6sox> bradfa, brutal
  • [15:08:01] <bradfa> :)
  • [15:08:03] <bradfa> it's friday
  • [15:08:10] <jackmitchell> ka6sox: yeah I had a little look at it a year or two ago, but we need the FPGA density; which is why the hard logic cores appeal to us
  • [15:08:17] * bradfa goes to find hamburger with bacon on it... bbl, maybe
  • [15:08:34] <panto> FPGAs are hard to justify nowadays for normal stuff
  • [15:08:44] <panto> hard cores are cheap and so, but so fast
  • [15:08:45] <mru> hamburger with cheese and bacon must be one of the most sinful things you can eat
  • [15:08:45] <alan_o> bradfa: that's an interesting idea, a breathalyzer connected to a pre-commit hook.
  • [15:09:06] <panto> you'd have to drop half the commits of all s/w projects then :)
  • [15:09:10] <ka6sox> you mean softcores?
  • [15:09:37] <mru> there's a commit message at my previous employer noting that the code reviewers were "both drunk"
  • [15:09:58] <mru> it was done on a friday afternoon
  • [15:10:11] <mru> come monday, we noticed it didn't work at all
  • [15:10:18] <mru> in fact, it didn't even compile
  • [15:10:24] <ka6sox> panto, hardcores are preferrable if you can get the integration you need with the FPGA.
  • [15:10:45] <mru> that's when someone instated a rule against checkins on friday afternoons
  • [15:10:47] <ka6sox> like if we can get the GPMC to act right and get the thruput that most FPGA applications need.
  • [15:11:14] <alan_o> mru: nice. Maybe the pre-commit hook just adds a line to the commit message that's easy to grep for later. "hmm, doesn't compile, check for dunken commits"
  • [15:11:32] <jackmitchell> ka6sox: exactly, killing inefficient and problematic interfaces is awesome
  • [15:12:01] <mru> alan_o: this was written by the committer, who was not exactly sober either
  • [15:12:34] <jackmitchell> if we do start going down the route of socfpga, then I'm looking forward to some of the stuff I'll be able to do with dual a9's and direct shared memory
  • [15:12:45] <ka6sox> after using uBlaze and pBlaze I wasn't too impressed
  • [15:12:54] <panto> ka6sox, yeah hardcores is better
  • [15:13:18] <panto> ka6sox, btw, why is the FPGA confused? is it's CS asserted?
  • [15:13:40] <ka6sox> configuration doesn't need CS
  • [15:13:52] <ka6sox> its a separate task on dedicated pins
  • [15:14:23] <ka6sox> however...before the eMMC made its debut...the "mode" pins were not wiggled during configuration
  • [15:15:02] <ka6sox> during configuration those mode pins determine whether its a SPI master or spi slave or uses the platform flash
  • [15:15:24] <ka6sox> wiggling them (as the emmc does) confuses the hell out of the FPGA and fails configuration.
  • [15:15:50] <panto> hmm, is that before bit streaming?
  • [15:15:56] <ka6sox> yes
  • [15:16:01] <ka6sox> well...
  • [15:16:18] <ka6sox> it determines if the bitstream comes from SPI-M, SPI-S, or platform flash
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  • [15:16:29] <panto> why don't you put the offending bits on an I2C GPIO expander?
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  • [15:16:41] <ka6sox> well.it WORKED on the BBW
  • [15:16:45] <panto> hehe
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  • [15:16:57] <panto> ok, ok ;)
  • [15:16:59] <Ahmed_> hey guys
  • [15:17:03] <panto> hey
  • [15:17:12] <Ahmed_> how can i know if my i2c is working in the bbb or no
  • [15:17:20] <maxinux> does /dev/i2c* exist?
  • [15:17:24] <Ahmed_> yub
  • [15:17:27] <mru> try it
  • [15:17:31] <panto> which i2c of them all?
  • [15:17:32] <Ahmed_> and when i write i2cdetect -l
  • [15:17:35] <Ahmed_> it work
  • [15:17:38] <Ahmed_> 0 and 1
  • [15:17:46] <maxinux> so it sounds like its working
  • [15:17:54] <Ahmed_> but when i connect a device how could i know that theyt are communicating
  • [15:17:56] <ka6sox> panto, I'm going to have to do a flywire to put RESET on the expander
  • [15:17:57] <Ahmed_> or doing anything
  • [15:18:06] <maxinux> they wont until you initialize them
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  • [15:18:15] <Ahmed_> yeah!! exactly
  • [15:18:19] <Ahmed_> thats what i wanted to know
  • [15:18:19] <panto> ka6sox, yeah
  • [15:18:22] <ka6sox> and then, after the emmc is killed with FIRE, configure the FPGA
  • [15:18:33] <Ahmed_> i was searching and all of the people say initialize them
  • [15:18:37] <Ahmed_> and they dont say how
  • [15:19:15] <ka6sox> its kind of tough, once a cape is on, to push S2
  • [15:19:44] <panto> ka6sox, yeah
  • [15:19:51] <Ahmed_> maxinux: if you could just give me a tutorial or tell me how that will be great
  • [15:20:01] <Ahmed_> it took me 5 days to make the i2c detetcted
  • [15:20:06] <Ahmed_> and now i cant make it work
  • [15:20:06] <jackmitchell> Ahmed_: have you got a device on the i2c?
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  • [15:20:11] <Ahmed_> yeah
  • [15:20:19] <ka6sox> panto,nobody likes my idea of a pogo pin thru the heart of the eMMC
  • [15:20:20] <jackmitchell> Ahmed_: if so, if you're are using angstrom
  • [15:20:21] <Ahmed_> i have a HMC 6352
  • [15:20:26] <jackmitchell> i2cdetect -r 1
  • [15:20:28] <Ahmed_> im using ubuntu
  • [15:20:31] <maxinux> Ahmed_: ouch, i wish i was that good at it :) ive gotten i2c working with a rtc and temp sensors ... that said it would take me a while to get it going again:)
  • [15:20:44] <jackmitchell> ah, well; if it has i2cdetect install that is what you should run
  • [15:20:53] <jackmitchell> it will search the i2c bus for clients
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  • [15:21:35] <jackmitchell> assuming, they're in pins P9.19 and P9.20, and i2c-1 is actually the i2c-2 bus ;)
  • [15:21:59] <Ahmed_> jackmitchell: when i write i2cdetect -r 1
  • [15:22:04] <Ahmed_> it ask me Y/n?
  • [15:22:08] <Ahmed_> so i write Y
  • [15:22:13] <panto> ka6sox, lol
  • [15:22:18] <Ahmed_> it give me ----------------------------------------UU UU UU-------------------------------------
  • [15:22:27] <jackmitchell> that means that nothing is detected on the bus
  • [15:22:39] <jackmitchell> is your i2c chip plugged into P9.19 and P9.20?
  • [15:23:02] <jackmitchell> and also grounded
  • [15:23:22] <Ahmed_> wait i connected it to i2c-SDA i2c-SCL
  • [15:23:31] <Ahmed_> and then to GND and VDD 3 volt
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  • [15:24:15] <jackmitchell> put it in i2c2
  • [15:24:24] <Ahmed_> i dont have i2c2
  • [15:24:28] <Ahmed_> only 0 and 1 working
  • [15:24:29] <jackmitchell> aka pins P9.19 and P9.20
  • [15:24:39] <jackmitchell> 0 and 1 are the number of buses
  • [15:24:49] <jackmitchell> not, direct relation to the i2c bus numbers
  • [15:25:07] <narcos> Anyone recommend a 3G cape for the BBB ?
  • [15:25:17] <jacekowski> cheapest usb modem
  • [15:25:38] <ka6sox> and be sure to use an external power supply
  • [15:25:49] <ka6sox> 2A or more
  • [15:27:25] <Ahmed_> jackmitchell: ok after connecting it what should i do
  • [15:27:35] <Ahmed_> should i write any command to make it work?
  • [15:27:56] <jackmitchell> try your i2cdetect command again
  • [15:28:40] <Ahmed_> i2cdetect -r 1?
  • [15:28:44] <jackmitchell> yep
  • [15:29:15] <Ahmed_> uu uu uu
  • [15:29:26] <Ahmed_> does the beagleboard auto detect the device?
  • [15:29:42] <Ahmed_> or i have to do something to give the bbb the address of the device
  • [15:30:09] <jackmitchell> no, probing the bus like that should show the device
  • [15:32:41] <mranostay> bradfa: hey i saw that
  • [15:32:49] <bradfa> oh, he's awake!
  • [15:32:55] <panto> mranostay, and, what's you gonna do about it?
  • [15:32:56] <bradfa> everyone! mranostay woke up!
  • [15:33:04] <bradfa> how's the hangover?
  • [15:33:08] <jackmitchell> Ahmed_: what address, should your device be on?
  • [15:33:09] <mru> or bypassed the breathalyser
  • [15:33:20] <Ahmed_> jackmitchell: not sure
  • [15:33:40] <jackmitchell> because if it happens to be one of the 'reserved, uu' addresses then it won't show up
  • [15:33:41] <Ahmed_> jackmitchell: i got something with the uu uu uu
  • [15:33:46] <Ahmed_> which is 21
  • [15:33:50] <jackmitchell> yes, they're reserved addresses
  • [15:33:55] <Ahmed_> in line 1 20
  • [15:34:09] <Ahmed_> does that mean its working?
  • [15:34:09] <mranostay> bradfa: what makes you think i'm hungover?
  • [15:34:12] <jackmitchell> the kernel has allocated those addresses to other devices
  • [15:34:19] <mru> mranostay: you
  • [15:34:26] <jackmitchell> your device would show up as a hex number
  • [15:34:37] <bradfa> mranostay, so still drunk then?
  • [15:34:38] <bradfa> :)
  • [15:34:56] <mranostay> bradfa: ok fuzzy dude.. not drunk :)
  • [15:35:06] * bradfa gets all warm and fuzzy inside
  • [15:35:07] <jackmitchell> Ahmed_: this is my i2c device list
  • [15:35:07] <mru> not drunk, just a little fuzzy?
  • [15:35:08] <jackmitchell> http://www.hastebin.com/decicohequ.hs
  • [15:35:10] <Ahmed_> jackmitchell: so what should i do? like finaly i got something from it :D
  • [15:35:18] * bradfa now really goes to get bacon burger
  • [15:35:22] <mranostay> yes i'd register a bradfa on the BAC scale
  • [15:35:26] <jackmitchell> you can see that all my devices, are the ones in hex
  • [15:35:58] <mru> mranostay: the Bacchus scale?
  • [15:36:03] <jackmitchell> UU devices, are not your devices
  • [15:36:30] <jackmitchell> unless you wrote a kernel module to register them ;) - which I am assuming is incorrect :)
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  • [15:37:03] <mru> the one that measures drunkenness as distance walked / straight-line distance?
  • [15:37:24] <mru> logarithm of, naturally
  • [15:37:40] <mranostay> hmmm can't patent genes finally some sanity in the legal system
  • [15:37:40] <Ahmed_> jackmitchell: :D so when i get just one number "21" not a hex number
  • [15:37:48] <Ahmed_> what does that mean
  • [15:37:49] <mru> mranostay: yes and no
  • [15:37:56] <jackmitchell> Ahmed_: that is correct
  • [15:38:05] <mru> they're still idiots allowing cDNA to be patented
  • [15:38:06] <jackmitchell> that means that your device is at address 21
  • [15:38:20] <jackmitchell> but it is a hex number, 0x21
  • [15:38:28] <Ahmed_> ok cool cool
  • [15:38:34] <Ahmed_> is their any commands
  • [15:38:37] <jackmitchell> if you do i2cget 0x21
  • [15:38:49] <Ahmed_> i can write to make sure 100% its working
  • [15:39:01] <Ahmed_> i2cdetect 0x21
  • [15:39:02] <Ahmed_> ?
  • [15:39:29] <jackmitchell> Ahmed_: no, i2cget -y 1 0x21
  • [15:39:48] <jackmitchell> Ahmed_: that is getting data, from address 0x21 on i2c-1
  • [15:40:09] <Ahmed_> i got 0x00
  • [15:40:20] <jackmitchell> then your device is giving you data 0
  • [15:40:28] <Ahmed_> so its working?
  • [15:40:32] <jackmitchell> what does your device measure?
  • [15:40:42] <jackmitchell> should it be giving you 0? I don't know if that is valid
  • [15:41:04] <Ahmed_> its just compaus device
  • [15:41:07] <Ahmed_> HMC6352
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  • [15:41:17] <jackmitchell> well, if 0 is valid, then yes it is working
  • [15:41:28] <jackmitchell> I don't know what a compaus device is, so that's up for you to decide
  • [15:42:12] <Ahmed_> jackmitchell: Thanks very much!!, i will try different device that does something
  • [15:42:33] <Ahmed_> jackmitchell: thanks for your time bro :D finaly i found something helpfull
  • [15:42:36] <jackmitchell> sounds like a good idea, good luck
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  • [15:43:12] <jackmitchell> Ahmed_: also read this: http://elinux.org/Interfacing_with_I2C_Devices
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  • [15:50:10] <narcos> jacekowski: I'm using a USB modem with a powered hub now, but a cape would be great as I also need a wifi adapter plugged in
  • [15:50:16] <narcos> which I want to use in the usb port
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  • [15:50:51] <Ahmed_> jackmitchell: ok i connected another device it work it gave me 11
  • [15:50:59] <Ahmed_> and when i do the i2cget
  • [15:51:11] <Ahmed_> it give me oxff
  • [15:51:24] <Ahmed_> this device is a temp sensor
  • [15:51:44] <narcos> This looks nice, but not released yet - http://www.exploitsys.com/ENG/Products.html
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  • [15:52:15] <jackmitchell> Ahmed_: ok, well you need a conversion chart from values > temperatures
  • [15:52:34] <jackmitchell> Ahmed_: does it give you a couple of addresses? e.g. 11 12 13? or just 11
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  • [15:52:40] <Ahmed_> just 11
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  • [15:52:51] <Ahmed_> and im using atmel at90usb 1287
  • [15:53:05] <jackmitchell> ok, well that means it telling you 255
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  • [15:53:20] <Ahmed_> jackmitchell: what does that mean?
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  • [15:53:31] <jackmitchell> Ahmed_: I don't know, you will have to look at the data sheet
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  • [15:54:03] <Ahmed_> jackmitchell: is their a command that i can use to write something in the at90usb
  • [15:54:15] <Ahmed_> then i will plug it in my pc and see this data in their?
  • [15:54:16] <jackmitchell> i2cset?
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  • [15:54:25] <Ahmed_> if*
  • [15:54:57] <Ahmed_> i2cset -y 1 0x11?
  • [15:55:23] <jackmitchell> Ahmed_: http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/man/i2cset
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  • [15:59:56] <jackmitchell> right kids, I'm off to drink beer and enjoy my newly erected garden picnic bench; have fun and catch y'all on monday
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  • [16:03:19] <mru> alan_o: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1xKNxMZjEx0/UaNV5G7WKHI/AAAAAAAAEVI/9BRNheDzFMs/s0/
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  • [16:04:33] <alan_o> hah
  • [16:04:52] <mru> camera is facing east btw
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  • [16:08:02] <mranostay> oh noes alan_o
  • [16:12:03] <alan_o> wait, that's real? I thought it was a joke.
  • [16:12:17] <mru> it's perfectly real
  • [16:12:29] <mru> potsdamer platz in berlin a few weeks ago
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  • [16:12:59] <mru> my photos are never doctored
  • [16:13:03] <alan_o> happy Friday mranostay
  • [16:13:34] <alan_o> mru: Without any context, I wasn't sure that was your photo.
  • [16:13:47] <ka6sox> mru, thats just a cleaned up coppertone commercial
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  • [16:15:41] <mranostay> alan_o: not a happy friday for the liver :P
  • [16:15:43] <T3CHKOMMIE> hello guys!
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  • [16:16:16] <alan_o> mranostay: the liver has somewhat of a shifted workweek.
  • [16:16:27] <T3CHKOMMIE> I got a quick question. I've google searched about this for about an hour, thought I would see if you guys could help me. And I am a recent convert from the church of the Pi, so I need a little help.
  • [16:16:59] <T3CHKOMMIE> I just got my BBB running an SD card imaged with the recomeneded ubuntu 12.04 lts ARM port... how do I expand the root partition?
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  • [16:17:13] <alan_o> hmm.. "the recommended ubuntu"
  • [16:17:26] <T3CHKOMMIE> raspberrypis have a nice little admin cmd, but i cant figure this one out for BBB.
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  • [16:17:56] <T3CHKOMMIE> alan_o: yeah, the ubuntu 12.04 lts port on the beaglebone black page from armhf
  • [16:18:01] <mru> you are confusing hw with sw
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  • [16:18:56] <mranostay> alan_o: how is going in the south?
  • [16:19:09] <alan_o> hot, rainy.
  • [16:19:43] <mru> feel free to send some excess heat this way
  • [16:19:49] <mru> but keep the rain
  • [16:19:59] <alan_o> mru: all stocked up?
  • [16:20:17] <mru> it's not raining today
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  • [16:23:02] <mranostay> woot only 20% chance of rain this weekend
  • [16:23:20] <mru> that's forecast-speak for certain downpour
  • [16:23:50] <emeb> mru: we're supposed to hit 107F today - want some?
  • [16:23:56] <mru> sure
  • [16:24:06] <emeb> was 112F on Weds...
  • [16:25:13] <Russ> emeb, boo, I have to be there tomorrow for a 1pm wedding, don't know whether or not its outdoors
  • [16:25:16] * emeb wonders what the global implications of moving heat around would be. Probably bad.
  • [16:25:38] <emeb> Russ: you'll love it! :P
  • [16:25:55] <ka6sox> I always knew JavaScript was a gateway drug.....
  • [16:26:10] <emeb> Only 104F forecast for tomorrow...
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  • [16:26:35] <Russ> emeb, that's a relief
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  • [16:27:06] <emeb> And 20% humidity.
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  • [16:28:16] <emeb> Got a sealed package of clothing in the mail from somewhere in the Midwest the other day. Opened it up and it felt *damp* due to the humidity difference between here & there.
  • [16:28:38] <e_s_p> I want to build an appliance computer using BeagleBoard
  • [16:28:43] <e_s_p> More info here: http://www.element14.com/community/thread/24907
  • [16:28:50] <e_s_p> BBB
  • [16:29:21] <e_s_p> How do I contact BeagleBoard to talk about sourcing "large" (hundreds or thousands) number of devices?
  • [16:29:23] <ka6sox> emeb, ewww
  • [16:31:20] <emeb> e_s_p: Talk to Circuitco - they make the Beagle/board/bone - http://circuitco.com/wordpress/
  • [16:31:42] <panto> e_s_p, .gr?
  • [16:31:50] <mranostay> emeb: from A&F? :)
  • [16:31:51] <e_s_p> panto: greek-american
  • [16:31:57] <panto> hehe
  • [16:32:18] <e_s_p> emeb: thanks
  • [16:32:23] <emeb> mranostay: har - yeah, I shop there *all* the time. I especially like how their mall stores smell. :P
  • [16:32:54] <emeb> I doubt that people my age are allowed to buy things there...
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  • [16:33:13] <e_s_p> emeb: do you know if anyone does turnkey devices - like, I give a disk image, they ship BBB + case + cables?
  • [16:33:57] <panto> e_s_p, talk to CCO
  • [16:34:03] <e_s_p> panto: thanks!
  • [16:34:08] <emeb> e_s_p: dunno.
  • [16:34:11] <panto> they do that for a biz
  • [16:34:16] <e_s_p> panto: that's great to hear
  • [16:34:45] <panto> now, depending on lead time, amount of devices, etc..
  • [16:34:48] <mranostay> emeb: heh i can't go into that store... the musk kicks in my allergies
  • [16:34:57] <panto> you can customize so that it's cheaper
  • [16:35:05] <mranostay> more of an American Eagle hipster :P
  • [16:35:14] <e_s_p> I have another dumb question
  • [16:35:25] <e_s_p> http://beagleboard.org/about <-- this lists a marcom person with a ti.com address
  • [16:35:34] <e_s_p> Is there a business connection?
  • [16:35:49] <e_s_p> My dad used to work at TI in the 80s
  • [16:35:53] <e_s_p> Is why I'm wondering
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  • [16:43:16] <Guest18657> Hello, I need to enable RTC in my BBB. Where I can find information? Has BBB a RTC built-in?
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  • [16:44:41] <jacekowski> yes it does, but it's not powered
  • [16:44:54] <jacekowski> and there is no easy way to power it up
  • [16:45:06] <panto> use an i2c rtc clock
  • [16:45:18] <mru> what's real anyway?
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  • [16:45:43] <jacekowski> mru: shit just got real
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  • [16:46:51] <narcos> Hm, any advice on interfacing this sucker to the BBB - http://proto-pic.co.uk/adh8066-gsm-module/ ?
  • [16:46:56] <narcos> (ADH8066 GSM Module)
  • [16:47:40] <mru> try using wires
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  • [16:49:19] <narcos> ta
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  • [16:53:07] <e_s_p> panto: I sent off an email, thanks for the help
  • [16:53:18] <Guest18657> Sorry, Can someone help me?
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  • [16:56:36] <panto> e_s_p, no problem
  • [16:56:46] <panto> Guest18657, didn't we?
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  • [16:57:09] <panto> the RTC on the SoC doesn't work (there was no space on the board for a battery)
  • [16:57:41] <panto> use a ds1307
  • [16:58:20] <mru> you should be worried if you get praise from the mpaa, right?
  • [16:58:55] <panto> narcos, it's standard uart
  • [16:59:09] <mranostay> be sure to logic level shift the DS1307
  • [17:00:13] <bradfa_> RTC will work if you use a lithium battery on the battery connectors, but you have to populate the test points with a header first
  • [17:03:38] <bradfa_> and you'll have to use tps65217 sleep mode instead of OFF mode
  • [17:03:48] <bradfa_> but then it should work fine
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  • [17:05:59] <jvdm> hi all, for some reason during boot udev timeout when populating /dev if I boot with a storage device in the usb port, I'm using Debian Wheezy on the BBB, has anyone seen this before?
  • [17:06:26] <jvdm> please, do you have any suggestion on how to debug this?
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  • [17:08:13] <panto> udevadm --trigger?
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  • [17:09:33] <KotH> mru: did the mpaa praise you?
  • [17:09:51] <Guest18657> Adding DS1307, and with " i2cdetect -r" this one activated?
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  • [17:11:18] <jvdm> panto: sorry, what do you mean?
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  • [17:11:40] <panto> udevadm is used to debug udev problems
  • [17:11:55] <panto> Guest18657, no
  • [17:12:14] <panto> you need to create an i2c rtc device
  • [17:12:49] <panto> check firmware/capes/cape-bone-tester-00A0.dts for an example
  • [17:13:44] <KotH> i guess two pads for an crystal and a pad to add a battery would have been a good idea
  • [17:15:05] <Guest18657> And since do I create this device? Help me please
  • [17:15:23] <KotH> Guest18657: 1) get datasheets from the internet
  • [17:15:33] <KotH> Guest18657: 2) use kicad to copy and paste schematics
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  • [17:15:44] <Berun> Hello Guys !
  • [17:15:46] <KotH> Guest18657: 3) use eurocircuits&co to produce board
  • [17:15:53] <KotH> Guest18657: 4) use soldering iron
  • [17:15:57] <KotH> Guest18657: 5) ...
  • [17:16:01] <KotH> Guest18657: 6) profit
  • [17:16:09] <ssi> #exactsteps
  • [17:16:14] <Berun> does the BeagleBord XM any 2D/3d acceleration ?
  • [17:16:27] <jvdm> panto: ok, sorry. but, well, after udev settles (a 120s timeout) during init scripts, I can login and call "udevadm trigger --verbose", and the event is triggered normally.
  • [17:16:35] <Berun> my javascript gauges are laggy as f+++
  • [17:16:42] <mru> KotH: goodness, no
  • [17:16:55] <KotH> mru: good, then nothign to worry about :)
  • [17:17:02] <jvdm> panto: if I boot without the storage device in the usb, no udev timeout occurs.
  • [17:17:17] <mru> they praised france and hadopi
  • [17:17:26] <KotH> lol
  • [17:17:29] <KotH> i'm not surprised
  • [17:17:46] <panto> increase the timeout?
  • [17:17:50] <KotH> france has a pecuiliar set of laws
  • [17:17:54] <panto> I'm not familiar with what debian does
  • [17:18:35] <KotH> mru: we had a customer from france who wanted some cryptographic device
  • [17:19:05] <KotH> mru: one of his requirements was: "no part must be produced or enter france during production or development"
  • [17:19:22] <Guest18657> I have created a circuit, with a quartz, a chip 7940, and the exits SDA and SCL, I them have connected to the BBB (P9 pin 19 and 20), despues have inserted the command i2cdetect-r 1 and it does not detect the device, it is necessary to do something more that I have not born in mind?
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  • [17:20:48] <mru> KotH: nice
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  • [17:20:58] <jvdm> panto: ok, thanks.
  • [17:20:59] <KotH> n'abend woglinde
  • [17:21:04] <KotH> mru: yeah...
  • [17:21:40] <KotH> mru: he feared that he'd violate some law even if one part of the device would cross the french border
  • [17:21:45] <panto> http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2013/06/11/review_beagleboard_beaglebone_black/
  • [17:21:55] <panto> the comments are completely off-topic and hilarious
  • [17:22:25] <KotH> panto: it's the register...not as bad as heise, but close :)
  • [17:22:42] <Berun> has anybody tried out JS graphics on the Beagleboard XM and also experienced slow and laggy rendering.
  • [17:23:00] <Berun> is there a way to improve the 2D rendering of the BBMX
  • [17:23:12] <KotH> Berun: 1) asking the same question over and over will not get it answered, you just annoy people
  • [17:23:24] <KotH> Berun: 2) using JS on a low power system is... well... stupid
  • [17:23:41] <KotH> Berun: 3) using JS for anything but web is ... well.. stupid
  • [17:24:18] <W1N9Zr0> KotH: i thought node.js was rockstar tech
  • [17:24:26] <KotH> Berun: 4) complainging about the slownes of an interpreted language with its interpreter running on an embedded system is... well... stupid
  • [17:24:43] <KotH> W1N9Zr0: 1) it's a technique, not a technology
  • [17:25:22] <jkridner|work> Berun: consider using Qt.
  • [17:25:23] <Berun> you might be right, but it produces fast results and i can use them on more then just one platform
  • [17:25:26] <KotH> W1N9Zr0: 2) no comment on node.js... the words i'd use would not be appropriate for this channel
  • [17:25:51] <panto> jkridner|work, hi
  • [17:25:51] * jkridner|work believes that JS has its place on embedded systems, but high-performance graphics rendering isn't one of them.
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  • [17:25:58] <jkridner|work> hi panto
  • [17:26:03] <ssi> apparently it produces slow results
  • [17:26:13] <Berun> Qt will be mynext step, but i need an result fast to show the possibillities of the setup
  • [17:26:18] <Berun> lol
  • [17:26:58] <KotH> jkridner|work: i'm not saying JS is worthless.. but having high expectation on performance of an JS interpreter on an embedded system does make the one uttering the complaint look stupid
  • [17:27:30] <woglinde> hi
  • [17:27:48] <Berun> i wan??t to use very simple gauges and it still is laggy, i just thaught i might have forgotten to active some kind of 2d/3d acceleration
  • [17:28:06] <woglinde> javascript with 3d?
  • [17:28:18] <woglinde> on embedded device
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  • [17:29:00] <KotH> woglinde: exactly my point :)
  • [17:30:40] <jkridner|work> Berun: I suspect it has more to do with your JS rendering technique than with the display acceleration....
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  • [17:30:55] <jkridner|work> you need to optimize the visualization for fairly slow rendering speeds.
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  • [17:31:53] <Berun> hmm i am using these http://bernii.github.io/gauge.js/ which has no shadows or what so ever and seem very imple
  • [17:31:56] <Berun> simple
  • [17:34:13] <KotH> while we are all assembled here and answering weird questions: has anyone ever seen a real-world usecase for a memristor?
  • [17:34:28] <Berun> I will live with the slow JS gauges for my prototype presentation and will create an QT gui afterwarts for the thesis
  • [17:34:49] <KotH> Berun: what's your project about?
  • [17:36:40] <Berun> it is an motorcycle multifunktion instrument whiuch will show temperatures ,speed, rpm, battery voltage, ...
  • [17:37:12] <Berun> and all by using 1-Wire sensors
  • [17:37:28] <KotH> o_0
  • [17:37:39] <KotH> 1-wire as in dallas 1-wire or i2c?
  • [17:37:57] <Berun> dallas 1-wire usb
  • [17:38:54] <mranostay> that sounds painful
  • [17:39:02] <KotH> yeah.. it does
  • [17:39:07] <Berun> the sensors are all already working
  • [17:39:23] <Berun> i only have the problem to display the results
  • [17:40:15] <Berun> in an attractive way
  • [17:40:44] <Berun> of cause QT is the way to go, but for this i will need more time
  • [17:41:57] <KotH> ka6sox: are you aware of any simulation models for quartz crystals that include phase noise processes and dips, possibly even aging?
  • [17:41:59] <Berun> so i just thought i would simply copy and paste me an JS-page togehter for the presentation of the prototype. but it runs very lagg.
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  • [17:43:32] <Berun> sorry colsed the tab
  • [17:48:26] <KotH> reading old (from 2006) scientific papers: a case why knowing more than just english is a good thing
  • [17:48:33] <KotH> ^^'
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  • [17:53:32] <Berun> just to be sure, QT does run fine on the BB XM even when 6-8 diffrent gauges are running at a time ?
  • [17:53:59] <panto> Berun, if not, something is wrong with how you've compiled QT
  • [17:54:44] <Berun> ok, thats promising ! Thanks alot!
  • [17:55:16] <KotH> do we have any french here?
  • [17:56:02] <mranostay> god i hope not
  • [17:56:13] <Berun> ;P
  • [17:56:15] <KotH> mranostay: hey! they gave you the fries!
  • [17:56:30] <KotH> and the liberty statue!
  • [17:56:34] <KotH> you should be gratefull!
  • [17:57:05] <mru> KotH: why do you ask?
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  • [17:57:20] <KotH> trying to find an old phd thesis in electronic form
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  • [17:57:39] <KotH> and my french isnt good enought to navigate the french scientific sites quickly
  • [17:57:53] <mru> french is easy
  • [17:57:56] <KotH> and there is no rikaichan for french
  • [17:58:12] <mru> it's jusr english with very bad grammar
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  • [17:58:18] <KotH> lol
  • [17:58:19] <mru> *just
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  • [17:58:34] <_Sy_> good evening
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  • [17:59:56] <KotH> good morning _Sy_
  • [18:00:52] <_Sy_> 19:00 here and the sun is still out, but I think thats all going to change tomorrow
  • [18:00:56] <KotH> damn.. this thing is only 40 years old! and no digital copy on the net!
  • [18:01:15] <KotH> _Sy_: 20:01:12 here
  • [18:01:43] <_Sy_> Technology is getting so cheap...ordered two 32GB memory sticks today, only ?16 GBP each.
  • [18:03:25] <KotH> meh.. and of course the author died a year ago.. so no way of contacting him anymore
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  • [18:03:38] <_Sy_> Would really like a 3D printer...keep toying with the idea of buying one
  • [18:03:59] <KotH> _Sy_: one out of one koen would say yes
  • [18:04:43] <robertjw> KotH: what is the title of the paper you are looking for
  • [18:04:44] <_Sy_> Any reccomendations?
  • [18:04:55] <KotH> robertjw: Titre :
  • [18:04:57] <KotH> M??canismes non lin??aires dans les r??sonateurs ?? quartz
  • [18:04:58] <mru> KotH: are you sure there's _no_ way?
  • [18:05:03] <KotH> robertjw: by gagnepain
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  • [18:05:18] <KotH> mru: none that i know of
  • [18:05:27] <mru> KotH: I can understand that french
  • [18:06:01] <mru> it's practically english
  • [18:06:17] <_Sy_> Is there a way to determine with opkg how big the packages are? I need to remove some to free up some space...was thinking of some of the GUI stuff I don't use, like Firefox.
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  • [18:06:58] <KotH> mru: juup.. technical french, is fairly simple, compaired to literature... modulo the strange replacement words they use
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  • [18:07:37] <mru> oh, I can't read french literature
  • [18:08:11] <KotH> mru: i got fairly good at pretending to be able to read them
  • [18:08:22] <KotH> yeah.. highschool wasnt good for my mental health ;)
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  • [18:08:52] <mru> I've been reading some french tech news for a while
  • [18:09:14] <mru> I was surprised how easy it is
  • [18:10:32] <robertjw> KotH: I have access to a university database, and your citation comes up blank. sorry...
  • [18:10:55] <KotH> robertjw: the only place i have found it was http://www.sudoc.abes.fr/DB=2.1/SRCH?IKT=12&TRM=008747431
  • [18:11:13] <KotH> robertjw: and a few papers and other disserations mentioning it
  • [18:11:30] <KotH> robertjw: none of the swiss libraries have it either :-(
  • [18:12:49] <robertjw> KotH: ahh, that looks like a doctoral thesis, not a journal article. That's probably why you are having trouble finding it. You might have to go directly to the univ where it was published.
  • [18:13:17] <KotH> robertjw: looks like it...
  • [18:15:07] <robertjw> KotH: Universit?? de Franche-comt??
  • [18:15:18] <KotH> merci!
  • [18:15:27] <mranostay> speak american here dammit
  • [18:15:40] <KotH> nei, t??mmer n??d!
  • [18:15:51] <robertjw> Ja Voll!
  • [18:15:58] <panto> mranostay, can't my truck is out of order; I shot out the tires by accident
  • [18:16:15] <Russ> did a bald eagle distract you?
  • [18:16:28] <panto> no, Freedom did!
  • [18:16:37] <Russ> is there a difference?
  • [18:16:45] <panto> no
  • [18:16:51] * panto blows up the Eiffel tower
  • [18:17:12] <Russ> I'll see if I can't find you a coupon for some tires down at walmart
  • [18:18:15] * mranostay should write a bot to repost all of mru's and av500's posts
  • [18:18:25] <robertjw> KotH: http://www.univ-fcomte.fr/
  • [18:18:46] <mru> mranostay: feel free to try
  • [18:18:49] <KotH> robertjw: any idea who i should contact?
  • [18:19:00] <KotH> robertjw: i have no idea how french universities are strucutred??
  • [18:19:26] <mru> mranostay: a kangbot
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  • [18:20:06] <mru> KotH: lots of corridors usually
  • [18:20:16] <mru> you've seen them
  • [18:20:26] <KotH> hmm..
  • [18:20:31] <KotH> maybe i should pester j-b
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  • [18:25:56] <Russ> Jan-Derk Bakker?
  • [18:26:07] <mru> always pester j-b
  • [18:26:27] <mru> Russ: jean-baptiste
  • [18:28:11] <panto> Jean Luke?
  • [18:30:57] <KotH> john luck pickard!
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  • [18:38:35] <_av500_> KotH: what do you need?
  • [18:38:39] <_av500_> from french uni?
  • [18:38:54] <KotH> _av500_: i'm looking for an old doctoral thesis
  • [18:39:06] <_av500_> what uni?
  • [18:39:18] <KotH> http://www.univ-fcomte.fr/
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  • [18:40:00] <_av500_> Besan??on??
  • [18:40:06] <KotH> juup
  • [18:40:20] <_av500_> ask on vlc-devel then :)
  • [18:40:22] <robertjw> Universit?? de Franche-comt??. UFR des sciences et techniques.
  • [18:40:23] <KotH> the center of research on quartz oscillators
  • [18:40:37] <_av500_> omg
  • [18:40:53] <KotH> *g*
  • [18:41:20] <mranostay> sounds like a fun centre
  • [18:41:35] <_av500_> truly oscillating
  • [18:41:42] <_av500_> so vibrant
  • [18:42:27] <mranostay> really tuned into my interests
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  • [18:44:01] <pre4> hi
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  • [18:44:59] <_av500_> lo
  • [18:45:17] <KotH> z
  • [18:47:03] <_av500_> n.c.
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  • [18:51:00] <KotH> x
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  • [19:04:09] <mru> y
  • [19:05:55] <kfoltman> t
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  • [19:09:05] * bradfa_ feels shame, did not have bacon for lunch...
  • [19:09:27] * bradfa_ is now hungry again...
  • [19:09:30] <mranostay> bradfa_: that is the least of things you should be ashamed of
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  • [19:09:57] * bradfa_ feels shame for other things too
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  • [19:14:08] <mranostay> bradfa_: fuzzy bacon pics plz
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  • [19:17:19] <_av500_> ~
  • [19:19:16] <bradfa_> I tell people I have friends on the Internet. They ask me why.
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  • [19:29:37] <bradfa> F
  • [19:29:38] <bradfa> R
  • [19:29:38] <bradfa> I
  • [19:29:39] <bradfa> D
  • [19:29:40] <bradfa> A
  • [19:29:41] <bradfa> Y
  • [19:30:14] <bradfa>
  • [19:30:16] <bradfa> T
  • [19:30:16] <bradfa> R
  • [19:30:17] <bradfa> O
  • [19:30:22] <prpplague> hehe
  • [19:30:43] * bradfa answers knock at door
  • [19:31:03] <prpplague> bradfa: d00d, dave is not here man....
  • [19:31:23] <emeb> oh, that takes me back.
  • [19:37:05] <ka6sox> KotH, not really
  • [19:37:21] <ka6sox> prpplague, "no, its dave on the PHONE"
  • [19:37:39] <thurgood> nah, man.. dave's not here
  • [19:38:04] <ka6sox> no man, its ME Dave...on the Phone...
  • [19:38:36] <mru> sorry dave, I can't do that
  • [19:38:58] <bradfa> HAL is not IBM compatible
  • [19:38:58] <ka6sox> mru, were you around for that one?
  • [19:39:11] <mru> which one?
  • [19:39:26] <ka6sox> 2001
  • [19:39:38] <mru> do I really seem that old?
  • [19:39:43] <ka6sox> no
  • [19:39:46] <ka6sox> thats why I asked
  • [19:39:48] <bradfa> ka6sox, I was alive in 2001!
  • [19:39:57] <prpplague> hehe
  • [19:40:03] <ka6sox> bradfa, so was my son, but thats not saying much
  • [19:40:04] <bradfa> mranostay might not have been, though
  • [19:40:11] <mru> :)
  • [19:40:24] * bradfa graduated from high school in 2001
  • [19:40:41] <ka6sox> whoa...I got you beat by 25yrs
  • [19:40:42] <mru> whippersnapper
  • [19:40:50] <bradfa> ka6sox, you could be my fater!
  • [19:40:52] <bradfa> :P
  • [19:41:00] <ka6sox> oh brother
  • [19:41:00] <woglinde> luke!
  • [19:41:01] <bradfa> s/fater/father/
  • [19:41:07] <bradfa> ka6sox, happy father's day!
  • [19:41:11] <ka6sox> thanks
  • [19:41:14] <mranostay> bradfa: bite me
  • [19:41:39] <ka6sox> tuesday I get to start using the Senior Discounts
  • [19:41:41] <bradfa> mranostay, i'm still at work, we have a no alcohol policy during work hours, so sorry, I can't bite you I might ingest alcohol
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  • [19:41:57] <ka6sox> bradfa, +1
  • [19:42:02] <mru> +2
  • [19:42:18] <bradfa> ka6sox, I have 3 SD cards I will mail you so you will no longer be SD card-less
  • [19:42:31] <ka6sox> I have a bagzillion 1GB ones
  • [19:42:33] <bradfa> speaking of which, I should probably flash this board before I go home...
  • [19:42:42] <bradfa> ka6sox, these are super special 4 GB ones!
  • [19:43:00] <bradfa> and mru, don't worry, by flash this board I mean write some files to an SD card
  • [19:43:47] <ka6sox> bradfa, w00t!
  • [19:44:06] * bradfa goes to find envelope for mailing
  • [19:44:45] <mranostay> bradfa: i can't win
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  • [19:45:14] <ka6sox> mranostay, first true statement of the day
  • [19:45:17] <bradfa> mranostay, drugs and alcohol never got anyone anywhere (except if you're in a band)
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  • [19:45:59] <mranostay> bradfa: ok mom :)
  • [19:46:25] <mranostay> ka6sox: nice http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/183
  • [19:47:06] <mru> mranostay: the barmaid apparently got a job at a mental institution, perhaps you'll meet her
  • [19:48:34] <mranostay> mru: what did i do now? :)
  • [19:48:34] <ka6sox> mranostay, I thought nobody picked up on that...
  • [19:48:45] <ka6sox> I use that in reference to going from JS to c++
  • [19:49:07] <bradfa> ka6sox, those are some hard drugs
  • [19:49:18] <bradfa> s/are/require/
  • [19:49:19] <mru> nobody expects to be picked up by 26-26-54
  • [19:49:34] <bradfa> It's the 26-26-54 inquisition!
  • [19:49:53] <mru> we're still in the acquisition phase
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  • [19:50:40] * mranostay mutters 'x86' over and over in a fetal position in the corner
  • [19:50:42] <ka6sox> mru, does that mean 26-26-54 is a part of Prism?
  • [19:50:50] <myself> wow, I'm lost.
  • [19:51:06] <mranostay> myself: you must be new here
  • [19:51:09] <ka6sox> myself, you have no idea...
  • [19:51:27] <bradfa> I'm not myself
  • [19:51:28] <_av500_> myself: you are not
  • [19:51:42] <_av500_> myself: ignore the trols
  • [19:51:45] <_av500_> just ask
  • [19:51:47] <_av500_> trolls too
  • [19:51:48] <mru> myself: you're not, the nsa never loses anyone
  • [19:51:57] <mranostay> myself: so ignore everyone in the channel?
  • [19:52:13] <_av500_> mru: they just misplace people
  • [19:52:14] <bradfa> mranostay, my beaglebones still have arm processors on them, Intel must be doing something wrong
  • [19:52:39] <_av500_> level shifters, the future are level shifters
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  • [19:52:53] * mru shifts up a level
  • [19:52:55] <mranostay> bradfa: bite me :)
  • [19:53:04] <bradfa> I thought we went over this?
  • [19:53:05] <myself> just a shift to the left, and a shift to the right..
  • [19:53:44] <bradfa> Friday the 14th! Don't walk under any black cats!
  • [19:54:03] * mranostay notes Friday is in full swing here....
  • [19:54:40] <_av500_> mranostay: dont you have like A20 gates to toggle?
  • [19:54:56] <_av500_> or add bytes to opcodes?
  • [19:55:00] <bradfa> _av500_, why would mranostay play with AllWinner parts?
  • [19:55:42] * bradfa goes to get beers
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  • [19:56:15] <mranostay> hey i thought you couldn't bite me!
  • [19:56:26] <ka6sox> he said *in* the office
  • [19:56:31] <ka6sox> he is now OUT
  • [19:56:44] <_av500_> gettin all fuzzy
  • [19:57:40] <mru> mranostay: http://youtu.be/CvD4K6IqXgM?t=1m9s
  • [19:59:29] <ka6sox> 26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/52
  • [20:00:37] <ka6sox> myself, http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/186
  • [20:01:16] <mru> ka6sox: are you monitoring a live feed or something?
  • [20:01:36] <mru> and no, there is no live feed
  • [20:01:44] <mru> so ka6sox must be hooked into prism
  • [20:01:55] <ka6sox> mru....sssh
  • [20:01:59] <mranostay> ahem av500 has a scrapper
  • [20:02:11] <ka6sox> nope
  • [20:02:15] <mru> mranostay: I know
  • [20:02:25] <ka6sox> I have zee sekret codez
  • [20:02:39] <ka6sox> zee sekret code is $
  • [20:02:57] <mru> mranostay: the scraper doesn't run that often
  • [20:03:07] <mru> only once a day iirc
  • [20:03:09] * mranostay shakes ka6sox the magic 8 ball
  • [20:03:25] <mru> ka6sox: you pay for access?
  • [20:03:30] <mru> how much to they charge?
  • [20:03:34] <mru> *do
  • [20:03:36] <ka6sox> mranostay,if I did that to you it would be child abuse
  • [20:04:04] <mranostay> mru: have you added like 15 in last 2 days?
  • [20:04:16] <ka6sox> 26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/$
  • [20:04:18] <mru> mranostay: no idea
  • [20:04:54] <mrpackethead> anyone need a stack of black
  • [20:05:24] <ka6sox> yes
  • [20:05:36] <mranostay> ka6sox: +1
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  • [20:06:38] <ka6sox> I see that #beagle-friday is in full force
  • [20:09:03] <ka6sox> mranostay, now that you have trolled all the local bars are you having to expand your radius?
  • [20:09:29] <mrpackethead> warning not orginal. but i fodn it funny
  • [20:09:49] <mrpackethead> I wanted to tell you a joke about UDP, but i'm not sure if you would get it
  • [20:10:42] <mru> old
  • [20:11:25] <ka6sox> mru :P
  • [20:11:49] <ka6sox> I should not have revealed my sekret :P
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  • [20:14:04] <mranostay> mru: was that on purpose?
  • [20:14:14] <mru> was what?
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  • [20:14:37] <ka6sox> huh?
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  • [20:14:46] <mranostay> the list of items
  • [20:14:48] <_av500_> mru: twice a day
  • [20:15:00] <mranostay> ka6sox: http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/%27
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  • [20:15:25] <mranostay> oh wait it is a search feature
  • [20:15:39] <mranostay> ah and $ is EOL so everything gets listed
  • [20:15:40] <_av500_> mru: wow, you added search
  • [20:15:49] <mru> you didn't notice until now?
  • [20:15:55] <mru> that's been there for like 6 months
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  • [20:17:03] <_av500_> I did not
  • [20:17:06] <_av500_> I use my rss feed
  • [20:17:08] <_av500_> :)
  • [20:17:26] <mru> I'm pretty sure I've even mentioned it explicitly at some point
  • [20:17:43] <_av500_> I sleep 1-2 hours a day
  • [20:18:03] <mru> I thought trolls don't sleep
  • [20:18:25] <ka6sox> trolls cat nap
  • [20:19:32] <mru> cat /dev/nap
  • [20:20:57] <ka6sox> yup
  • [20:21:27] <mru> in soviet russia, cat naps you
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  • [20:32:02] <ali0315123> hello
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  • [20:32:12] <ali0315123> i need help for my website
  • [20:32:18] <ali0315123> can any 1?
  • [20:32:52] <ka6sox> you would be better to ask about Beagles in here.
  • [20:33:24] <ka6sox> (or on a friday afternoon....Adult Beverages)
  • [20:33:26] <mru> is it best to walk a beagle before or after feeding it?
  • [20:33:38] <ka6sox> after
  • [20:33:52] <_av500_> ali0315123: ask, dont ask to ask
  • [20:34:06] * ka6sox gets popcorn
  • [20:34:08] * jkridner|work looks at /topic
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  • [20:34:27] <mru> jkridner_: you're probably the first to do that in a very long time
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  • [20:34:35] <mranostay> what does a beagle taste like?
  • [20:34:37] <ali0315123> say,say to say
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  • [20:34:48] <mru> wtf
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  • [20:34:59] <mranostay> jkridner_: drunk? :)
  • [20:35:03] <jkridner_> probably
  • [20:35:14] <mru> I'd say it's beyond probable
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  • [20:35:42] <jkridner> :-)
  • [20:35:53] <ka6sox> all that to change nicks?
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  • [20:36:10] <ka6sox> ya
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  • [20:37:58] <mru> tl;dr
  • [20:38:01] <_av500_> +1
  • [20:38:07] <mru> make that "Question of STFU"
  • [20:38:26] <_av500_> QOSTFU
  • [20:38:34] <mru> *or
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  • [20:39:11] <mranostay> jeebus
  • [20:41:25] <mru> what kind of bus?
  • [20:43:35] <SpeedEvil> It's a voice controlled buss.
  • [20:44:04] <ka6sox> isn't that geebus?
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  • [21:53:03] <mrpackethead> ka6sox: you still about
  • [21:53:29] <ka6sox> for small values
  • [21:53:30] <mru> he's not mranostay so he shouldn't be drunk quite yet
  • [21:53:47] <ka6sox> mru, I'm *rarely* drunkj
  • [21:54:07] <mru> let me discuss that with that 'j' there...
  • [21:54:18] <ka6sox> *hic*
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  • [21:56:36] <CalcMan> dwery: how much have you used the towertech cancape?
  • [21:57:22] <ka6sox> CalcMan, he designed it?
  • [21:57:23] <ka6sox> :)
  • [21:57:37] <mru> doesn't mean he's _used_ it
  • [21:57:53] <CalcMan> really? i knew he was adding code, didn't realize he was the designer
  • [21:57:56] <mru> a lot of things have clearly never been used by those who designed them
  • [21:58:12] <CalcMan> i've just been doing some "performance testing" if you will
  • [21:58:31] <CalcMan> saturating a 500kbps bus to like 80something %
  • [21:58:40] <CalcMan> (on all 3 interfaces)
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  • [21:59:06] <_av500_> busbanging
  • [21:59:11] <_av500_> oops
  • [21:59:20] <CalcMan> kind of takes the board out of commision as all the IRQs from the mcp2515s cause the kernel scheduler to have a fit
  • [21:59:53] <CalcMan> as a note, the dcan interface on chip is much better then the mcp2515s :)
  • [22:00:35] <mranostay> ka6sox: alcohol can fix that
  • [22:00:48] <ka6sox> mranostay, can fix what?
  • [22:02:31] <mrpackethead> ka6sox: sorry
  • [22:02:35] <mrpackethead> moved desks
  • [22:02:37] <CalcMan> ka6sox: presumably being rarely drunk
  • [22:03:18] <ka6sox> CalcMan, don't like being drunk
  • [22:03:24] <mrpackethead> i was being slighty lazy, but had a question you might know. Can the SPI ports be muxed to different pins on teh headers? Or is there only 1 possibility per perphial
  • [22:03:26] <ka6sox> mrpackethead, okay I'm here...
  • [22:03:37] <mru> ka6sox: being drunk like a glass of water?
  • [22:03:43] <mru> that does seem unpleasant
  • [22:03:56] <ka6sox> there are several pins...however....they are possibly being used by something which you might still want to use
  • [22:04:13] <mrpackethead> yeah, i was wanting to use the digital audio
  • [22:04:17] <mrpackethead> and the SPI's
  • [22:05:20] <ka6sox> my second favourite shirt (after "Stop Plate Tectonics!") is "One Tequila, two Tequila, 3 Tequilla, Floor"
  • [22:05:38] <CalcMan> mrpackethead, page 73
  • [22:05:55] <CalcMan> of the BBB manual shows all the possible pinmux states
  • [22:06:18] <ka6sox> CalcMan, Possible != Probable
  • [22:06:29] <mru> prossible
  • [22:06:35] <ka6sox> especially where BBB is concerned.
  • [22:06:47] <mranostay> mru: new word!
  • [22:06:57] <mru> prussible
  • [22:06:58] <CalcMan> spi0 only has one jump point on P9
  • [22:07:13] <mru> or prubable
  • [22:07:15] <_av500_> leave hte PRUssians out of it
  • [22:07:34] <CalcMan> spi1 ( you have 2 choices for chipselect and clock), but data is stuck
  • [22:07:52] <_av500_> stuck on 0 or 1?
  • [22:08:02] <_av500_> or in the middle?
  • [22:08:08] <mranostay> _av500_: prussian doesn't exists anymore :P
  • [22:08:12] <CalcMan> don't see any spi pins on P8
  • [22:08:14] <_av500_> mranostay: sure does
  • [22:08:25] * ka6sox cat 1 > /dev/nap
  • [22:08:43] <mru> 1: No such file or directory
  • [22:09:07] <mru> /dev/nap: Permission denied
  • [22:09:37] <_av500_> sudokat
  • [22:10:15] <mranostay> This incident will be reported to your supervisor.
  • [22:10:27] <mranostay> or whatever sudo lies to you with
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  • [22:10:35] <mru> http://xkcd.com/838/
  • [22:11:21] <mru> the mouseover on that suddenly has a new meaning
  • [22:11:38] <_av500_> indeed
  • [22:11:58] <_av500_> it went from enigmatic to prismatic
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  • [22:17:45] <prpplague> mru: i am sure you sudo violations are reported to someone far worse than chris
  • [22:18:17] <prpplague> mru: i am thinking the BBC license office
  • [22:18:20] <mru> sudo isn't even installed on this machine
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  • [22:20:42] <mranostay> sudo av500 -get-me-beer
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  • [23:29:38] <martinm> sanity check, please. New Black, working tethered 'cause that's more convenient right now. Got new SanDisk 8G uSD, and things turned weird. If the card is inserted during boot, the card hangs at three LEDs, as though it's trying to boot from the SD or something. Boot without it, insert it, it doesn't seem to be aware of it... I'm spoiled, things are supposed to Just Work unless my code is buggy. Cryptic and opaque systems is for when I'm forced to
  • [23:29:38] <martinm> mess with Windows :-(
  • [23:30:03] <vvu|Mobile> Tartarus: any idea what the bootp in the spl expects to get in the response? i am sending it ip, serverip, server name, filename to boot and subnet mask
  • [23:30:28] <Tartarus> vvu|Mobile, sounds right
  • [23:30:36] <Tartarus> have you gotten things working outside of android?
  • [23:30:47] <Tartarus> YOu could always toss wireshark/etc at the problem, on a working setup
  • [23:31:12] <Tartarus> wireshark does USB as well, so you can watch things at all sorts of levels
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  • [23:35:29] <martinm> fascinating... I thought there were man pages, but today it doesn't seem to find any?
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  • [23:42:17] <vvu|Mobile> Tartarus: something is pesky around here. the bootp server that i have supplied spl to the ROM and now it does not want to supply file to the spl. even if i have rule for that mac addr
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  • [23:43:48] <martinm> IIRC, bootp only tells it where to look for file(s), the files come from a tftp (?) server
  • [23:43:54] <vvu|Mobile> attached wireshark on my usb0 interface and no reply there
  • [23:44:05] <vvu|Mobile> martinm: right
  • [23:44:16] <martinm> okay, then :-)
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  • [23:46:18] <ka6sox> nap: Check...Done
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  • [23:55:21] <mranostay> ka6sox: WAKE
  • [23:55:23] <mranostay> UP!
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