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  • [00:02:17] <mranostay> put a SD card with an image in?
  • [00:02:27] <mranostay> of course he/she/it left
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  • [00:05:24] <timm> so, i have to wait for a patch until omap_mux is supported for kernel 3.8
  • [00:10:34] <ka6sox> timm, patches gratefully accepted!
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  • [00:21:45] <fiola> "BBB is the new black"
  • [00:21:47] <fiola> Low bar on punning, but kind of cute :P
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  • [00:24:25] <Jaguar`> hmmmm, how long is it supposed to take to xz the bbb flasher image to an sdcard
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  • [00:24:41] <Jaguar`> oh
  • [00:24:50] <Jaguar`> just answered my own question - approximately 5 minutes
  • [00:24:54] <Jaguar`> :)
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  • [00:43:13] <ka6sox> Jaguar`, thats faster than I've ever seen.
  • [00:43:28] <Jaguar`> hmm
  • [00:43:34] <Jaguar`> did i do it wrong
  • [00:43:43] <Jaguar`> - seems to have booted ok
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  • [00:47:37] <ka6sox> Jaguar`, excellent
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  • [00:48:17] <Jaguar`> well, by ok, i mean LEDs are flashing on the board, so i assume its flashing the emmc at present
  • [00:48:55] <Guest95692> can you reiterate your problem jaguar. I might be able to help..
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  • [00:50:13] <Jaguar`> no problem per se - originally i just asked how long it would take to write the flasher image to an sdcard, which seemed to take about 5 minutes
  • [00:50:44] <Jaguar`> now ive put the sdcard into the bbb and LEDs are flashing, so i assume its flashing the emmc :)
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  • [01:13:40] <Jaguar`> gah, blue LEDs are pretty, but they burn my eyes
  • [01:14:37] <Shadyman> ^
  • [01:15:05] <Shadyman> I think A6 needs higher-valued resistors on the LEDs, or lower-mCd rated LEDs ;)
  • [01:15:13] <Jaguar`> yah :)
  • [01:15:26] <Jaguar`> but they're definitely pretty
  • [01:15:40] <Shadyman> hehe
  • [01:15:50] <Shadyman> hmm, stick'em in a fogged acrylic case, it'd be purty
  • [01:15:59] <Shadyman> or translucent
  • [01:16:32] <Shadyman> hmm
  • [01:16:33] <shapr> I like the A5A LEDs!
  • [01:16:37] <shapr> I wear my sunglasses at night!
  • [01:16:43] <Jaguar`> hah
  • [01:16:47] <Shadyman> shapr: So you can, so you can?
  • [01:16:52] <Shadyman> or maybe even a blob of hotglue over the LEDs would do it.
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  • [01:16:59] <Shadyman> removable, and diffusing
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  • [01:18:09] <Jaguar`> woot
  • [01:18:12] <Jaguar`> 4 solid leds
  • [01:18:25] <Shadyman> So does BBB actually have a UPC? That's what it looks like on the side
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  • [01:23:26] <Shadyman> I'd think it's probably more an amalgamation of serial number, revision, etc
  • [01:26:29] <Shadyman> Ooh, there IS a revision / way to check software rev on the web ui
  • [01:26:36] <Jaguar`> so after flashing the bbb and rebooting i get 3 solid LEDs and no functionality
  • [01:26:37] <Shadyman> the readTextFile demo
  • [01:27:24] <Shadyman> Jaguar`: You have USB connected? ssh in and see what's going on
  • [01:27:34] <Shadyman> might be stuck in uboot
  • [01:28:01] <Jaguar`> i have usb but /var/log/kern doesn't show anything being detected when i plug in
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  • [01:29:27] <Shadyman> linux on the desktop?
  • [01:29:35] <Jaguar`> yeah sorry
  • [01:29:40] <Shadyman> good man :)
  • [01:29:46] <Jaguar`> plugging into my ubuntu pc
  • [01:30:23] <Shadyman> Hmm
  • [01:30:23] <Jaguar`> im guessing that means its not getting past uboot
  • [01:30:27] <Shadyman> not necessarily
  • [01:30:44] <Shadyman> it seems that the new one shows up with its storage/ethernet gadget first
  • [01:31:02] <Shadyman> try dmesg | tail
  • [01:31:39] <Jaguar`> yup no activity :(
  • [01:32:04] <Shadyman> or ls -al /dev | grep ttyACM0
  • [01:32:42] <Shadyman> Jaguar`: Did you flash it with an image on an sd card? Supposedly it takes, like, 10 minutes to flash or something
  • [01:32:42] <Jaguar`> nup, i pronounce it dead :)
  • [01:32:54] <Shadyman> and the LEDs count up in progressive order to indicate progress
  • [01:32:56] <Jaguar`> yes i did flash it
  • [01:33:04] <Jaguar`> and got four solid LEDs
  • [01:33:09] <Jaguar`> restarted, then nothing
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  • [01:33:18] <Jaguar`> i guess ill rewrite the flash image to sdcard and re-flash
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  • [01:33:42] <russell--> everyone should have a ttl-level usb-to-serial cable
  • [01:33:50] <russell--> and then you'd know
  • [01:34:00] <Shadyman> russell--: indeed
  • [01:34:01] <Shadyman> If using BeagleBone Black and the image is meant to program your on-board eMMC, you'll need to wait while the programming occurs. When the flashing is complete, all 4 USRx LEDs will be lit solid. This can take up to 45 minutes. Power-down your board, remove the SD card and apply power again to be complete.
  • [01:34:23] <Jaguar`> yup did that Shadyman
  • [01:34:35] <russell--> it was *the* first thing i did when i started hacking on access points 7 years ago, won't leave home without one.
  • [01:34:54] <Shadyman> russell--: indeed
  • [01:35:01] <Jaguar`> i agree, most boards i do for work have a ftdi chip on them :)
  • [01:35:19] <Shadyman> For a USB to TTL adapter, ebay "PL2303" and find the cheapest one that comes with a set of cables
  • [01:35:23] <Jaguar`> in fact, replace most with all
  • [01:35:41] <Shadyman> or CP2102
  • [01:35:51] <Shadyman> like http://www.ebay.com/itm/1pcs-USB-2-0-TTL-UART-6PIN-Module-Serial-Converter-CP2102-STC-PRGMR-/251039347548?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a731c735c
  • [01:36:09] <russell--> or if you are really lazy, just buy one of the $20 ftdi cables
  • [01:36:33] <Shadyman> russell--: But I'm cheap :/
  • [01:36:43] <Shadyman> and the PL2302/3 work well
  • [01:36:56] <russell--> if you buy the chinese $3 ones from dealextreme, just be prepared to wait several months for them to arrive
  • [01:37:24] <Shadyman> chip_partner shipped mine in 4-6 weeks
  • [01:38:11] <Shadyman> but yes, if you want something fast, I think adafruit or sparkfun have USB to TTL things
  • [01:38:37] <Shadyman> http://www.adafruit.com/products/954
  • [01:39:32] <russell--> there are probably electronics within reach that could be pressed into service as well... one trick is to use a openwrt'd router as a network-to-serial converter, running minicom or similar on it, routers tending to have a serial port on them
  • [01:40:02] <russell--> or a raspberrypi or, or, or
  • [01:40:11] <Shadyman> HOT RASPI on BBB ACTION!
  • [01:40:19] <russell--> lo
  • [01:40:19] <russell--> l
  • [01:40:34] <Shadyman> russell--: I recently went crazy buying used DIR-615 routers and openwrting them
  • [01:41:06] * russell-- is about to give away a stack of old linksys wrt54g/gl/gs
  • [01:41:12] <Shadyman> russell--: USB modded them, and I'm going to make an 11-channel kismet box :0
  • [01:41:20] <russell--> nice
  • [01:41:22] <Shadyman> probably directed by a BBB for kicks.
  • [01:41:35] <russell--> kismet slave or whatever
  • [01:41:38] <Shadyman> yeah
  • [01:41:39] <Shadyman> drone
  • [01:41:54] <Shadyman> though each of them has USB and wifi, and could do it on their own
  • [01:42:07] <Shadyman> you lose data hopping channels like kismet does
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  • [01:42:30] <Shadyman> I figure hey, if you've got a receiver sitting on each of the 11 channels, you're not going to miss an AP's callout, especially when driving :3
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  • [01:43:02] <russell--> why only 11, there are a bunch of 5GHz channels as well! :-)
  • [01:43:06] <Shadyman> and then maybe an array of 11 wifi antennas on the roof of the car. Wonder how long it'd take me to get pulled over with that rig.
  • [01:43:24] <Shadyman> russell--: Yeah, but at the moment, 5Ghz Solo is still hard to find. Most routers are both
  • [01:43:30] <russell--> just don't record payloads :-)
  • [01:43:33] <Shadyman> ^
  • [01:43:40] <Shadyman> unlike Google. Whoops.
  • [01:44:12] <Shadyman> I can just imagine trying to explain to a nice police officer when driving across the country, "Oh, yeah, they're for, science! Yeah, that's it!"
  • [01:44:21] <russell--> google was being persecuted by people with no understanding of the technology
  • [01:44:41] <Shadyman> russell--: Never forget, though, the lawmakers are those same people with no understanding of technology.
  • [01:44:46] <russell--> indeed
  • [01:45:10] <russell--> my answer is "i'm making a map"
  • [01:45:34] <russell--> but i've never been hassled
  • [01:45:48] <Shadyman> same, but that's usually with one antenna on teh roof, not 11 :3
  • [01:45:55] <russell--> even across from the police station in the dark with an odd looking stand
  • [01:46:10] <Shadyman> granted, with enough gain, I could probably get by with high-gain internal-to-the-car antennas
  • [01:46:22] <Shadyman> the little 9" or 12" jobbies
  • [01:46:41] <Shadyman> maybe external antennas for 1,6,11 and internal for the rest
  • [01:46:50] * russell-- was once #10 on wigle.net's uploader stats
  • [01:46:54] <Shadyman> NICE.
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  • [01:47:14] <russell--> some jackass named 'anonymous' passed me a long time ago
  • [01:47:14] <Shadyman> russell--: I'm planning two 5ghz linksys USB abgn things to jump around on 5ghz
  • [01:48:06] <Shadyman> probably going to pick up an ammo tin to put them all in, drill holes for antennas
  • [01:48:15] * russell-- has an alix3 with two radios, one hopping 2.4, the other hopping 5ghz, but just sits on the dash, haven't been using an external antenna recently
  • [01:48:19] <russell--> lol
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  • [01:48:31] <russell--> wait... /me goes to find photos
  • [01:50:44] <Shadyman> russell--: I also got a crimping tool and some RJ45 plugs so I can chop up some cables into little 3-6" jobbies.
  • [01:52:25] <russell--> damn, i can't find them now
  • [01:52:53] <russell--> be warned though, an ammo box with wires coming out looks remarkably like a bomb to the public safety types
  • [01:53:51] <Shadyman> true that.
  • [01:54:06] <Shadyman> but really, an ammo box? They're kinda flimsy.
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  • [01:54:13] <russell--> http://www.tdb.com/~russell/photos/2007-12-02/PC030057.html
  • [01:54:24] <Shadyman> Yeah, kinda like that.
  • [01:54:51] <russell--> http://www.tdb.com/~russell/photos/2007-12-02/PC030059.html
  • [01:55:26] * russell-- painted it purple as a calming influence
  • [01:55:31] <Shadyman> any metal-on-metal anodizing happening on those washers?
  • [01:56:36] <russell--> oh, those are plastic
  • [01:56:44] <russell--> to prevent a common ground
  • [01:56:59] <Shadyman> ah
  • [01:57:13] <russell--> i can charge the battery (internal) and run off 'shore power' at the same time
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  • [01:57:27] <Shadyman> hm.
  • [01:57:43] <Shadyman> russell--: http://erroraccessdenied.com/node/1684
  • [01:57:54] <Shadyman> I got that guy, figured he'd be a neat bed for one
  • [01:58:00] <Shadyman> internal SLA battery
  • [01:58:26] <Shadyman> but not big enough for 11 routers :/
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  • [01:59:34] <Shadyman> but then there's also one of these. http://www.princessauto.com/pal/en/Tool-Holders/Ammo-Box/8115321.p
  • [01:59:40] <russell--> i was going to put one in an old radiation survey meter
  • [01:59:52] <Shadyman> heh
  • [02:00:25] <russell--> something making clicky-poppy geiger counter noises everytime a packet is heard would be HAWT
  • [02:00:30] <Shadyman> LOL
  • [02:00:48] <Shadyman> directional antenna
  • [02:00:50] <russell--> i have the survey meter, gutted out
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  • [02:01:00] <russell--> but it's kind of small
  • [02:01:11] <Shadyman> or omni, with a steamer basket on the front
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  • [02:01:33] <russell--> some kind of patch antenna on a curly cord would be awesome
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  • [02:02:52] <russell--> http://www.radmeters4u.com/cdv715-new.jpg
  • [02:03:00] <Shadyman> cute
  • [02:03:37] <russell--> yeah, hooking up the analog meter would be awesome too
  • [02:04:00] <russell--> BB would fit inside nicely
  • [02:04:05] <Shadyman> hmm, so 11.. if each has 4+1 ethernet.. 8 on bottom level, each with an uplink to one of two, each uplinking to a master router, connected to BBB
  • [02:04:42] <Shadyman> with an ethernet uplink out, for kicks
  • [02:05:30] <Shadyman> not sure if I actually have 11 yet though. Hm.
  • [02:05:31] <russell--> that snapcap ethernet connector on my ammo box was the single most expensive part on the whole project, about $35
  • [02:05:37] <Shadyman> I'd imagine.
  • [02:05:46] <Shadyman> anything built to any kind of spec is pricy
  • [02:06:09] <russell--> the case isn't really water tight though so it's kind of a waste
  • [02:06:17] <Shadyman> well, it's close.
  • [02:06:27] <russell--> (what with the holes cut for led's and toggle switches)
  • [02:06:30] <Shadyman> heh
  • [02:06:42] <Shadyman> well, add some silicone caulking around the holes on the inside
  • [02:06:53] <russell--> the led's are bright, almost BBB bright
  • [02:06:59] <Shadyman> heh
  • [02:07:01] <russell--> can be used as a flashlight
  • [02:07:12] <Shadyman> nice
  • [02:08:18] <russell--> the big problem with it is the current guts are based on one of my early stumbler rigs, which was a netgear wgt634u. the problem with it is its USB port is slow, too slow to store kismet data on without long pauses to save
  • [02:08:34] <Shadyman> huh
  • [02:08:36] <Shadyman> what are you saving to?
  • [02:08:39] <russell--> after 3000 or so networks, it would take about 5 minutes to periodically save their files
  • [02:08:43] <russell--> usb thumb drive
  • [02:08:54] <Shadyman> is it the drive or the router that lags it?
  • [02:08:59] <russell--> it's usb2, but can only handle 12mbps speeds
  • [02:09:25] <Shadyman> Hmm. It should be able to save concurrently with receiving packets, though, no?
  • [02:09:28] <russell--> the alix3 stores to CF card and is so fast you don't notice
  • [02:09:32] <russell--> no
  • [02:09:33] <Shadyman> heh
  • [02:09:38] <russell--> totally stalls
  • [02:09:42] <Shadyman> lame
  • [02:09:59] * russell-- had to use the countdown timer on his watch to know when to pull over and wait
  • [02:10:05] <Shadyman> ROFL
  • [02:10:19] <Shadyman> well, I did make an SD Card cape for the BBone
  • [02:10:30] <Shadyman> 32 gigs should be enough, right?
  • [02:10:35] <russell--> the BB wouldn't have that problem
  • [02:10:38] <Shadyman> true
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  • [02:10:44] <Shadyman> silly single-core routers
  • [02:10:46] <russell--> it was the particular implementation of USB on that board
  • [02:11:20] <russell--> i've got some small routers, i should spin up that survey meter project again
  • [02:11:33] <russell--> need to find a battery that would fit
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  • [02:11:54] <Shadyman> http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/d-link/dir-615
  • [02:12:02] <Shadyman> I've been stocking up on various revs of these
  • [02:12:13] <Shadyman> generally 4MB flash, 32MB RAM.
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  • [02:12:41] * russell-- has a bunch of the accton mr3201a's
  • [02:12:49] <russell--> atheros soc
  • [02:12:53] <Shadyman> been getting them for $5-10 from ebay and thrift stores used
  • [02:12:56] <russell--> 11g radios
  • [02:12:58] <Shadyman> nice
  • [02:13:30] <Shadyman> the Staples store I go to has about 35 of the 615 E3's on clearance for $29,97 last I checked
  • [02:14:08] <Shadyman> I actually bought a pack of the USB headers for them. http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/d-link/dir-615/ex-usb
  • [02:14:10] * russell-- has moved on to the newer dualband routers, like the buffalo wzr600dhp and similar
  • [02:14:17] <Shadyman> indeed
  • [02:14:22] <russell--> lots of cpu and memory
  • [02:14:42] <russell--> we have a gigantic box of retired wgt634u's now
  • [02:14:47] <Shadyman> there are a couple of those on clearance too, but they're still upwards of $60-100
  • [02:15:09] <russell--> they are bigger though, the accton is nice and small
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  • [02:15:33] <russell--> there are some small formfactor n-radio boards too, from tplink or something
  • [02:15:41] <Shadyman> yeah
  • [02:15:46] <Shadyman> 703s
  • [02:16:03] <Shadyman> $20 on ebay from China
  • [02:16:24] <Shadyman> they're equivalent to, i think, ML-3020 or something
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  • [02:16:53] <Shadyman> http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/tl-wr703n
  • [02:17:32] <russell--> yeah
  • [02:18:11] <russell--> i also need a rotary switch to go in the top
  • [02:18:22] <russell--> the original was built into the survey meter board
  • [02:18:41] <russell--> which was, er, non-operational by the time i got it apart
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  • [02:25:09] <Jaguar`> does anyone know where i can find the am33xx_pinmux linux driver definition?
  • [02:27:06] <Shadyman> russell--: Whoops
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  • [02:29:48] <Jaguar`> my understanding is there should be a definition for const struct pinctrl_pin_desc for the bbb?
  • [02:30:53] <Shadyman> Jaguar`: That's beyond me. Maybe mranostay
  • [02:31:02] <Shadyman> and woo, BBB slashdotted. http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/13/05/24/2227210/beaglebone-black-ships-with-new-linux-38-kernel
  • [02:34:59] <ka6sox> Jaguar`, for the 3.8 kernels its in Device Tree fragments
  • [02:35:19] <ka6sox> DTS for builtin and DTBO for "modules"
  • [02:35:31] <Jaguar`> i see, thanks ka6sox
  • [02:38:48] <m_billybob> Shadyman, yeah lol my buddy pasted that link im still tryign to figure out how thats a good thing. Been my ( limited ) experience with slashdot, that its just a forum format for troll sessions.
  • [02:39:02] <m_billybob> "too bad about the powerVR GPU" says it all lol
  • [02:39:12] <m_billybob> ( first comment )
  • [02:41:21] <Shadyman> m_billybob: heh
  • [02:41:36] <Shadyman> m_billybob: Well, it does provide a lot of exposure, and a lot of clickthroughs.
  • [02:42:11] <m_billybob> yeah, im probably being . . . a negativ ned. I never really liked slashdot though
  • [02:42:31] <m_billybob> </bias>
  • [02:43:52] * m_billybob doesnt care more for pendantic eWenus waggling
  • [02:43:56] <m_billybob> much*
  • [02:44:14] <mranostay> effing network manager get out of way
  • [02:44:16] <mranostay> *my
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  • [02:53:10] <Jaguar`> root@192.168.7.2's password:
  • [02:53:11] <Jaguar`> root@beaglebone:~# ls
  • [02:53:11] <Jaguar`> Desktop
  • [02:53:17] <Jaguar`> yay!
  • [02:53:54] <Shadyman> whee
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  • [02:56:51] <Jaguar`> now to get my mrf24j40 radio going!
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  • [03:02:44] <masta> do the beagle's support writing the MLO to a specific offset on the MMC or sdcard in raw more, like the panda's?
  • [03:03:01] <masta> instead of using vFAT
  • [03:03:49] <russell--> Jaguar`: you want the BBB_SRM and the AM335x ARM?? CortexTM-A8 Microprocessors
  • [03:03:52] <russell--> TRM
  • [03:04:13] <russell--> and google
  • [03:04:22] <m_billybob> masta, thats probably going ot be more of an #uboot question or whatever their channel is
  • [03:04:33] <Jaguar`> ive looked through the cortext A8 TRM, and it mentions the pinctl registers but i can't seem to map between the dts register offsets and anything in the trm
  • [03:05:14] <russell--> they are offset from the bottom of the control registers
  • [03:05:20] <masta> m_billybob: well it's more like a tech spec of the OMAP/AM33xx boot rom , but just wondering if the bones are similar enough to the omap's
  • [03:05:29] <russell--> 0xmumble800
  • [03:06:15] <Jaguar`> thanks russell--, i need to do more reading obviously :)
  • [03:06:37] <m_billybob> masta, yeah i dont rightly know.
  • [03:06:43] <russell--> table 9-10
  • [03:07:01] <russell--> starting at 800h
  • [03:07:33] <russell--> so, the device tree overlay number will look like 0x30 when that table says 830h
  • [03:08:12] <russell--> and then look at existing examples ... it starts to gel after you've stared at it for a while
  • [03:08:25] <Jaguar`> yeah, ive been staring for quite a while
  • [03:08:27] <Jaguar`> heh
  • [03:08:38] <Jaguar`> but that makes sense, thanks
  • [03:08:45] <russell--> would be nice if it was laid out a little more clearly/directly somewhere, but google says no
  • [03:09:05] <Jaguar`> yah i might write something up once i work it out
  • [03:09:26] <Jaguar`> complete idiots guide to cape interfacing :)
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  • [03:09:32] <russell--> don't wait, when you understand, you will no longer have the patience
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  • [03:28:55] <Shadyman> russell--: Ironically enough, I think the easiest wigling i've done is with the android app
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  • [03:37:20] <ourmando|xps> anyone get a desktop on the beaglebone black with ubuntu
  • [03:48:09] <russell--> yeah
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  • [04:34:44] <hossein> Hi, I'm new to BBB. The first time that I connect it to PC via USB, I connected to web-server and worked with cloud9 and some examples, but the SSH connection didn't work also after trying to set the date. I hibernate the PC while the BBB was connected and Chrome was open. Now, the kernel in loading and LEDs are working, but I can't connect the board through 192.168.7.2 The ping to 192.168.7.2 is on time out message. What's happe
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  • [04:43:46] <Shadyman> try the reset button on the BBB. It's the little one by the edge of the PCB, not the one closest to the ethernet port
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  • [04:51:00] <hossein> I tried it. not working .
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  • [04:57:25] <hossein> Reset and power off/on has been tried. the ping to 192.168.7.2 is not responding also.
  • [04:57:57] <hossein> Is there any other way to connect the BBB instead of web-server?
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  • [05:03:10] <fiola> hossein: There are two other ways to connect. One is to plug in the HDMI connector to a monitor and a keyboard + mouse into the USB host port, and then it's a standalone "PC". And the other is to use a console lead plugged into its 6-pin header.
  • [05:03:57] <fiola> Both of those are independent of network connection, so make diagnosis easier.
  • [05:04:38] <hossein> fiola, tnx. none of them are possible at this moment. so I should fix web-server.
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  • [05:05:05] <dm8tbr> good moaning
  • [05:05:15] <fiola> moin moin
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  • [05:05:29] <hossein> no HDMI cable :(
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  • [05:06:30] <hossein> the boot is done. something wrong with web-server
  • [05:06:31] <fiola> It's a special anyway, *micro* HDMI on the BBB end, beware when buying.
  • [05:07:53] <hossein> Ok. it was working for 1st time.
  • [05:08:57] <dm8tbr> micro? not HDMI-C
  • [05:08:58] <fiola> I've got it connected the other two ways simultaneously, but seem to remember the webserver worked when I first tried that method.
  • [05:09:20] <hossein> I can't understand what's the reason ?
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  • [05:10:38] <fiola> dm8tbr: http://uk.farnell.com/pro-signal/cdlhd4-micro-018/cable-assy-hdmi-d-m-to-hdmi-a-m/dp/2305808
  • [05:11:36] <fiola> Linked from the BBB product page as an "accessory"
  • [05:11:38] <dm8tbr> *nod* I only saw it on pictures and it looked like type-c not D to me
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  • [05:13:36] <fiola> hossein: Well if you have no ping response then it's not a webserver problem, but a networking problem.
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  • [05:14:49] <fiola> Unless you messed with the firewall knowingly, nothing will be blocking ICMP echo, so lack of response means networking currently broken in some way.
  • [05:15:10] <hossein> the only physical connection is USB and it's OK. what do you mean about "networkconnection"?
  • [05:16:20] <hossein> no change to firewall setting is done.
  • [05:16:34] <fiola> When you connect the BBB to USB, it creates an IP connection for you over USB so that your browser can talk to it. Browsers can't talk over USB, only over IP, which is why it's made an IP interface on USB for you.
  • [05:17:29] <fiola> What's your host machine?
  • [05:18:21] <hossein> win7 32 bit
  • [05:18:44] <fiola> Ah. Unfortunately I know nothing about Windows, pure Unix person here.
  • [05:19:14] <hossein> in network connection of my host, there is no new network for BBB. the only is my wireless internet !!
  • [05:19:36] <fiola> K, that's your issue then. It went away :P
  • [05:19:46] <hossein> It seems the new connection is not automatically generated.
  • [05:20:26] <hossein> ok. tnx
  • [05:20:38] <fiola> Someone will turn up who knows about Win side, needs patience though
  • [05:21:07] <hossein> tnx fiola :)
  • [05:21:41] <fiola> It's a nice little device, you'll get it sorted :-)
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  • [05:40:08] <hossein> I sorted it. the problem was that windows was automatically disabled the service of IP over USB network connection. I start the service manually and the connection is established.
  • [05:40:12] <hossein> ;)
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  • [05:43:47] <fiola> hossein: well done. :-) For reference, how did you start the service manually on Win?
  • [05:48:16] <hossein> in device manager, on the Linux usb ethernet device, in properties tab
  • [05:50:00] <fiola> Thanks :-)
  • [05:50:59] <hossein> me too, yes it's little but nice :
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  • [05:52:00] <fiola> Interesting that it calls it "Linux usb ethernet device". I think it's a generic USB standard IP interface.
  • [05:52:16] <fiola> Maybe nobody every uses it except Linux :P
  • [05:52:22] <fiola> ever*
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  • [05:56:11] <insanewifi> Hello
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  • [05:57:00] <hossein> also it's named as RNDIS Gadget
  • [05:59:39] <insanewifi> i compile the uboot kernel and put ubuntu file system and copied to sd card while booting its showing no dtbs file can u please help
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  • [06:40:16] <Jaguar`> anyone have a reference for what each pad control muxmode value corresponds to for each pad of the AM335x?
  • [06:40:39] <dm8tbr> the SRM and TRM don't?
  • [06:40:43] <Jaguar`> can't find anything in the TRM
  • [06:41:00] <Jaguar`> but it is a massive document, so i might be missing something
  • [06:41:16] <ka6sox> Jaguar`, yes, my son wrote an app to do this
  • [06:41:20] <ka6sox> pinmux.tking.org
  • [06:41:45] <Jaguar`> nice one, bookmarked
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  • [06:42:16] <Jaguar`> do you know where the enumerations for each pin come from?
  • [06:42:29] <ka6sox> Device Tree
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  • [06:45:01] <fiola> Another resource -- https://github.com/selsinork/beaglebone-black-pinmux
  • [06:45:49] <ka6sox> fiola, I started with that too...
  • [06:46:03] <fiola> And also http://www.element14.com/community/thread/23952?tstart=0
  • [06:46:04] <ka6sox> but it was just too difficult to read and follow.
  • [06:46:52] <fiola> Table halfway down
  • [06:47:10] <ka6sox> yup, looks like the one that bradfa did a while ago
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  • [06:47:14] <Jaguar`> strange that it's not in the AM335X TRM
  • [06:47:28] <Jaguar`> at least, not that i can see
  • [06:47:31] <ka6sox> that what isn't in the TRM?
  • [06:47:43] <Jaguar`> the effect of muxmode on each pin
  • [06:47:52] <ka6sox> its in the TRM
  • [06:47:59] <ka6sox> 3.50
  • [06:48:06] <Jaguar`> all i can find is table 9-2
  • [06:48:49] <ka6sox> the app is the synthesis of the table, the pinmux mode register and the kernel offsets for calling the right pinmux registers.
  • [06:49:37] <ka6sox> the actual (what attaches to what pin) is in anohter document.
  • [06:50:27] <ka6sox> sprs717e
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  • [06:51:49] <ka6sox> Table 9.10 is the control registers for pinmuxing (however the kernel subtracts 0x800 for its offsets)
  • [06:52:04] <ka6sox> section 9.3.50 describes the contents of each register.
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  • [06:52:13] <Jaguar`> ahhhhh
  • [06:52:14] <Jaguar`> got it
  • [06:52:16] <Jaguar`> Table 2-7. Ball Characteristics
  • [06:52:30] <Jaguar`> in the sprs717f.pdf
  • [06:52:31] <ka6sox> we are using a zcz package
  • [06:52:36] <ka6sox> right
  • [06:52:40] <Jaguar`> thanks ka6sox
  • [06:52:41] <Jaguar`> :D
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  • [06:53:00] <ka6sox> I got tired of looking in 4 places to made the app that synthesizes it all in 1 place.
  • [06:53:09] <ka6sox> s/to/so/
  • [06:53:41] <Jaguar`> yeah definitely a good idea
  • [06:53:48] <Jaguar`> excellent help
  • [06:54:17] <ka6sox> next is making it synthesize the DT code fragment to set the pinmux's
  • [06:54:47] <ka6sox> so you can start to create a dtbo for what you need.
  • [06:54:53] <m_billybob> hmm wonder if anyine will wrap or otherwise make DT easier to use
  • [06:54:58] <m_billybob> anyone*
  • [06:55:13] <ka6sox> m_billybob, its fairly easy now...
  • [06:55:44] <m_billybob> yeah i only briefly looked at it, the javascript eque syntax kind of . ..ruffles my feathers
  • [06:56:33] <ka6sox> what we need is a few stock dtbo modules and pinmux alternatives for them.
  • [06:57:10] <m_billybob> what i need is a generic what if step by step all in one
  • [06:57:14] <ka6sox> SPI/UART/GPIO/LCD/etc.
  • [06:57:19] <m_billybob> but meh i havent spent too much time looking at DT yet
  • [06:57:25] <ka6sox> #exactsteps
  • [06:57:31] <m_billybob> hmm yes and no
  • [06:57:57] <m_billybob> jadonks example seems very well described
  • [06:58:01] <ka6sox> most capes will have a DTS and a DTBO
  • [06:58:06] <m_billybob> but only one side of DT as i understand it
  • [06:58:45] <m_billybob> ka6sox, what are you workign on ?
  • [06:58:49] <m_billybob> or anything ?
  • [06:59:06] <ka6sox> what is my project with the Bone?
  • [06:59:23] <m_billybob> oh, i thought maybe you were doing some of the cummunity stuff
  • [06:59:30] <m_billybob> community stuff*
  • [06:59:50] <ka6sox> trying to make pinmuxing and DT more palettable...
  • [06:59:59] <ka6sox> working on the PRUs
  • [07:00:09] <m_billybob> the pinmux stuff Rick suggested ?
  • [07:00:16] <ka6sox> hoping we get selected for a GSoC project.
  • [07:00:34] <m_billybob> GSoC ?
  • [07:00:36] <ka6sox> I'm not writing that..my Son is...I don't *do* javascript.
  • [07:00:42] <ka6sox> Google Summer of Code.
  • [07:00:46] <m_billybob> ah
  • [07:00:57] <m_billybob> summer of code camp or is that differnt ?
  • [07:01:13] <m_billybob> that by theway sounds like it'd be lots of fun
  • [07:01:33] <ka6sox> if selected: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2013/jj2baile/1
  • [07:01:40] <ka6sox> working with Jon on this.
  • [07:02:37] <m_billybob> I feel like such a 5th wheel around here
  • [07:02:42] <m_billybob> ( sometimes )
  • [07:02:56] <ka6sox> I'd like a 5th wheel...no more Tent Camping!
  • [07:03:06] <m_billybob> I guess many of you been around since beagleboard , or BBW days
  • [07:03:15] <m_billybob> all this is very new to me
  • [07:03:22] <m_billybob> well much of it
  • [07:03:50] <ka6sox> i have been playing with BBW...
  • [07:03:58] <ka6sox> the BBB is different enough however.
  • [07:04:27] <m_billybob> different enough to be interresting hopefully
  • [07:04:47] <m_billybob> bbb going to keep me very busy for a long time i think
  • [07:05:14] <ka6sox> yes, it has a lot of potential.
  • [07:05:55] <m_billybob> thats what im seeing too, but comming from the msp430 thats not saying much on my perspective
  • [07:06:19] <m_billybob> apples and automobiles.
  • [07:06:47] <ka6sox> I don't have enough time this summer but I'd like to marry the MSP launchpad to the Bone to work on some Software Defined Peripherals.
  • [07:07:30] <m_billybob> Oh is this what PRU_* is working on ? this project ?
  • [07:07:58] <ka6sox> I don't know waht PRU_ is working on.
  • [07:08:04] <ka6sox> this would be a good use however
  • [07:08:14] <m_billybob> ah never mind then i must be misunderstanding
  • [07:08:28] <m_billybob> PRU debugger from what he's said
  • [07:08:49] <ka6sox> thats a different thing...
  • [07:09:04] <ka6sox> this debugger is for doing things like JTAG/SWD/SBW/AVRisp
  • [07:09:26] <ka6sox> using the PRUs to handle the RT I/O needs.
  • [07:09:58] <m_billybob> OOOH i think i know now
  • [07:10:08] * m_billybob has bad short term
  • [07:10:21] <m_billybob> the cape with all the serial stuff on it
  • [07:10:36] <ka6sox> which cape?
  • [07:11:03] * m_billybob looks to see if he kept a bookmark
  • [07:11:14] <ka6sox> if there is one that already handles all that I'll stop working on mine :)
  • [07:13:11] <ka6sox> I"m working on this one: https://github.com/ka6sox/BoneTag
  • [07:13:58] <m_billybob> BBB tick is what i was thinking of
  • [07:14:33] <ka6sox> I think thats more aimed at working with the Bone itself...
  • [07:14:49] <ka6sox> iirc Russ was working on that.
  • [07:15:05] <m_billybob> https://github.com/russdill/tick yeah so it would seem
  • [07:15:51] <m_billybob> as i said sometime i have a bad short term memory
  • [07:16:06] <m_billybob> especially with all this information im tryign ot absorb
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  • [07:16:28] <m_billybob> hey ther mrpackethead
  • [07:16:40] <mrpackethead> ohey there m_billybob
  • [07:19:21] <ka6sox> m_billybob, that looks considerably different than what I'm working on.
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  • [07:19:54] <ka6sox> okay time for beddy bye...
  • [07:19:55] <ka6sox> niters
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  • [07:21:41] <m_billybob> night
  • [07:23:27] <m_billybob> mrpackethead, you said something last night about lookign into other networking stuff ? I didnt know what you meant.
  • [07:23:50] <mrpackethead> m_billybob: i had a look at the debian build
  • [07:23:55] <mrpackethead> for the bbb
  • [07:24:01] <mrpackethead> and the network build is all ok
  • [07:24:05] <mrpackethead> no problems at all
  • [07:24:48] <m_billybob> yeah once i set it up proerly neither did I. everythign worked fine, except g-ether whcih i did not persue once i got ethernet working.
  • [07:25:15] <mranostay> hey
  • [07:25:43] <mrpackethead> i also see that the usb-ethernet is running now as well
  • [07:25:46] <mrpackethead> in the most recent build
  • [07:25:51] <m_billybob> g-ether was just a means for me to connect and configure the OS without having to buy a serial cable
  • [07:26:15] <mrpackethead> m_billybob: but it works fine now
  • [07:26:27] <m_billybob> could do that via normal ethernet ssh methods so just didnt bother with it
  • [07:26:44] <mrpackethead> mranostay: straw is cheaper
  • [07:26:47] <m_billybob> yeah he wrote some scripts to set it up when i asked about it
  • [07:26:50] <m_billybob> very nice of him
  • [07:27:24] <m_billybob> turns out i think all the problems i experienced were my own fault
  • [07:27:34] <m_billybob> ( with ethernet )
  • [07:27:44] <mrpackethead> oftne the way.
  • [07:27:52] <mrpackethead> the important thign is to document stuff
  • [07:27:56] <mrpackethead> so you can come back to it later
  • [07:28:27] <m_billybob> I was tired, and flustered after trying to get it workign for two days off an on, so yeah i spoke too soon.
  • [07:28:47] <mrpackethead> i'm trying t get cross compiling working now
  • [07:28:49] <mrpackethead> using embedian
  • [07:28:56] <m_billybob> he was nice enough to write up some scripts etc none the less which was very nice of him
  • [07:29:22] <mrpackethead> hes a good guy
  • [07:29:40] <m_billybob> think embeddian will be any better ? Ive always had top notch experiences with debian, but always x86 until now
  • [07:30:55] <m_billybob> root@arm:/home/william# uptime
  • [07:30:56] <m_billybob> 05:24:24 up 3 days, 12:24, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05
  • [07:31:47] <m_billybob> i loaded the CPU yesterday to 85% using an infinite loop to test CPU scallign and powr stability using USB power
  • [07:32:14] <m_billybob> also to test my cross development envoinrment ( instead of stock hello world )
  • [07:33:08] <m_billybob> many may groan at this comment, but im using Linaro from windows . ..
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  • [07:42:20] <m_billybob> err heh i misunderstood what you said
  • [07:42:38] <m_billybob> its late and too many beers tonight, and not familiar with embedian
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  • [08:25:25] <Jaguar`> anyone know how to unload a cape with capemgr?
  • [08:28:57] <Jaguar`> or where the capemgr source repository is for that matter
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  • [08:45:06] <Jaguar`> capemgr src at https://github.com/pantoniou/linux-bbxm/blob/not-capebus-v30/drivers/misc/cape/beaglebone/capemgr.c
  • [08:45:30] <Jaguar`> looks like echo -X > /sys/devices/capmgr_xxx/slots removes slot x
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  • [08:53:47] <_av500_> ahoi
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  • [08:58:33] <dm8tbr> polloi
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  • [09:00:03] <_av500_> 269 pckages to install
  • [09:00:06] <_av500_> sigh
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  • [09:09:02] <Humpelstilzchen> Why does the Bone has mini USB and not micro?
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  • [10:04:00] <Jaguar`> sooooo close: Unhandled fault: external abort on non-linefetch (0x1028) at 0xf9e07140
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  • [10:24:15] * mranostay stumbles back in
  • [10:26:13] <_av500_> mranostay: sleep!
  • [10:28:52] <mranostay> eff that
  • [10:28:59] <dwery> anyone can suggest a bootable sd image for the black (without the auto reflesher). I need to experimento a bit with a kernel and wanto to keep the internal flash in a working state :)
  • [10:29:28] <_av500_> dwery: take the flasher and kill emmc.sh
  • [10:29:50] <dwery> d'oh! :D thanks
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  • [10:30:00] <Tey> HELLO
  • [10:30:03] <_av500_> or extract the image from the flasher card
  • [10:30:32] <mranostay> _av500_: only 3:30a
  • [10:30:37] <_av500_> mranostay: right
  • [10:30:43] <Tey> When i try to boot from SD Card, 3 Leds stay solid :/
  • [10:30:50] <_av500_> go mangle some diagonals then
  • [10:30:59] <_av500_> Tey: winCE?
  • [10:31:03] <Tey> :P
  • [10:31:16] <mranostay> crap the club i want to go to is a file miles from trimet
  • [10:31:27] <mranostay> 'club'
  • [10:31:29] <Tey> Yes, sorry mister
  • [10:31:31] <_av500_> mranostay: make the club come to you
  • [10:31:45] <_av500_> send invites via facebook
  • [10:31:55] <_av500_> Tey: connect a serial
  • [10:32:11] <Tey> Why?
  • [10:32:30] <_av500_> just because
  • [10:32:37] <_av500_> and maby to observe some debug messages
  • [10:33:06] <Tey> can you interpret 3 solid LEDs?
  • [10:33:08] <mranostay> ok i'm going back out against my better judgement
  • [10:33:16] <Tey> and why the fourth is off?
  • [10:33:17] <_av500_> Tey: yes, they are solid
  • [10:33:32] <_av500_> Tey: what are you booting?
  • [10:33:49] <Tey> Sorry Mister, Windows CE
  • [10:33:53] <_av500_> so
  • [10:33:57] <_av500_> connect a serial
  • [10:34:01] <_av500_> observe the boot
  • [10:34:03] <_av500_> draw conclusions
  • [10:34:04] <dwery> I love that "2) Made the LEDs dimmer for those that could not sleep due to the brightness of the LEDs."
  • [10:34:05] <_av500_> the works
  • [10:34:51] <Tey> _av500_ how to connect a serial there? o.o
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  • [10:35:54] <mranostay> better yet i should sleep
  • [10:36:41] <Jaguar`> hi Tey, did you remove the sdcard before rebooting?
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  • [10:37:02] <Tey> Jaguar, hm no
  • [10:37:06] <Jaguar`> that's your problem
  • [10:37:14] <Jaguar`> happened to me earlier
  • [10:37:31] <Tey> what to do then?
  • [10:37:48] <Jaguar`> you need to power off > insert sd card > hold boot button and power on > wait for 4 solid leds > power off > remove sd card > power on
  • [10:38:55] <Jaguar`> will take another 50 minutes unfortunately
  • [10:39:18] <mranostay> get a beer, chocolate or a pizza
  • [10:39:52] <Jaguar`> i *think* when you reboot after flashing with the sdcard still in it might start re-flashing the mmc and leave a page/pages erased or something
  • [10:40:51] <Jaguar`> reflashing it with the above steps solved it for me anyway
  • [10:42:33] <Tey> what did you boot jaguar?
  • [10:46:24] <Jaguar`> ?
  • [10:46:32] <Jaguar`> i booted the flasher image
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  • [10:46:35] <Jaguar`> from the beaglebone website
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  • [11:02:14] <Tey> im trying to boot Windows CE :/
  • [11:02:26] <Tey> but it seems like no one is experienced with it
  • [11:02:36] <dwery> there' might be a reason for that :D
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  • [11:03:08] <Tey> Which?^^
  • [11:03:38] <Jaguar`> oh !
  • [11:03:41] <dwery> Windoes doesn't work, by definition
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  • [11:04:15] <dwery> but maybe I'm biased :D
  • [11:04:19] <Jaguar`> sorry, didn't see the part about CE Tey
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  • [11:13:21] <Jaguar`> great success: bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.9: slot #6: Applied #2 overlays. :D
  • [11:14:16] <mhaberler> Jaguar: what are you trying to do? I'm fighting with PRU enable here
  • [11:14:46] <Jaguar`> building a DTS for a custom cape with a MRF24J40 radio
  • [11:14:55] <mhaberler> ah
  • [11:15:05] <mhaberler> no PRU I assume
  • [11:15:13] <Jaguar`> finallly got it to insert into the kernel via capemgr
  • [11:15:15] <Jaguar`> :D
  • [11:15:24] <Jaguar`> (12 hours and counting)
  • [11:15:28] <Jaguar`> what's PRU?
  • [11:16:03] <dwery> MRF24J40 is quite interesting... I wonder if it can connect to my Philips Hue lights
  • [11:16:05] <mhaberler> the realtime coprocessors(2) in the am3359
  • [11:16:17] <Jaguar`> oh ok
  • [11:16:29] <mhaberler> there are 2 'arduinos on steroids' on-chip
  • [11:16:31] <Jaguar`> yes, it's also reasonably cheap dwery
  • [11:16:46] <dwery> I saw a dts for it in the tree... is it the same cape?
  • [11:17:00] <Jaguar`> no, i decided to make my own
  • [11:17:12] <Jaguar`> for reasons that are only known to my subconcious
  • [11:17:17] <Jaguar`> :)
  • [11:17:46] <kfoltman> Jaguar`: those are the best reasons ;)
  • [11:18:02] <Jaguar`> however, it's a very simple radio, especially if you use the MRF24J40MA module (includes a PCB antenna and balun)
  • [11:18:26] <dwery> I guess I will just buy one :D
  • [11:19:13] <Jaguar`> yeh, you could make your own cape with some stripboard and a MRF24J40MA, and some 46way headers for about $20
  • [11:19:27] <dwery> yep. how about the software?
  • [11:20:04] <Jaguar`> theres a kernel driver (linux zigbee) for the 6lowpan side of things and a device driver for the MRF24J40
  • [11:20:10] <Jaguar`> i'll do a write up some time soon
  • [11:20:43] <dwery> I've just added them to the shopping cart of my next order... I'll hold you responsible for that expense :D
  • [11:20:49] <Jaguar`> haha
  • [11:20:57] <dwery> 7.67 EUR each
  • [11:21:03] <Jaguar`> you should be able to get the MRF24J40 for $10 in single qty
  • [11:21:12] <dwery> MRF24J40MA-I/RM
  • [11:21:13] <Jaguar`> get the MRF24J40MA module
  • [11:21:14] <Jaguar`> yup
  • [11:21:16] <Jaguar`> that's the one
  • [11:21:34] <Jaguar`> nice and easy, 100 mil pitch pads :)
  • [11:21:34] <dwery> great. will happily read your writeup
  • [11:22:18] <dwery> sooner or later they'll make our life hard with that low pitch... I'm very happy when I still find something easy to solder
  • [11:24:26] <Jaguar`> yeah plus i know next to nothing about antenna design, so it's nice to find an affordable module with one included
  • [11:24:56] <Jaguar`> anyway, time to bring up this board :)
  • [11:25:29] <dwery> uhm.. just noticed it's not stocked at my distro.. they expect it for July
  • [11:26:05] <Jaguar`> yeah - you in europe?
  • [11:26:26] <dwery> yep
  • [11:26:35] <dwery> http://tineras.com/2013/02/15/prototype-mrf24j40ma-beaglebone-cape/ is this yours?
  • [11:27:03] <Jaguar`> nope!
  • [11:27:08] <Jaguar`> that's definitely much better than mine
  • [11:27:18] <dwery> -ETOOMANYCAPES
  • [11:27:19] <Jaguar`> mines on stripboard at the moment
  • [11:28:11] <Jaguar`> not surprisingly virtually identical pinouts though
  • [11:29:40] <dwery> http://www.flickr.com/photos/86669029@N00/8598127534 another one
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  • [11:32:11] <Jaguar`> seems im not the only one
  • [11:32:22] <Jaguar`> i'll upload a picture of mine
  • [11:33:25] <kfoltman> Jaguar`: what do you use for PCB design/routing/fab?
  • [11:33:44] <Jaguar`> kicad at home
  • [11:33:46] <Jaguar`> altium at work
  • [11:33:56] <Jaguar`> futurlec for cheapo pcb's
  • [11:34:03] <Jaguar`> stripboard for prototyping
  • [11:34:20] <Jaguar`> other suppliers depending on quality :)
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  • [11:39:53] <Jaguar`> http://mann.io/images/mrf24j40_protoboard.jpg
  • [11:40:03] <Jaguar`> excuse the bad soldering :)
  • [11:40:10] <Jaguar`> it was late
  • [11:41:21] <dwery> okok..this time only ;)
  • [11:41:58] <kfoltman> Jaguar`: thanks! looking at kicad now, are there any extra libraries for it?
  • [11:42:14] <Jaguar`> footprint libraries?
  • [11:42:47] <Jaguar`> there are some - i found one footprint for the beaglebone in particular, ill try to dig it up for you
  • [11:43:21] <Jaguar`> kfoltman, https://github.com/piranha32/FlyingBone has the board outline for capes (not mine)
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  • [11:47:38] <Jaguar`> oh, and kicad is very good by the way, i'm very impressed by it as a package and for simple boards and ease of use it runs circles around some of the commercial packages imho
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  • [11:58:57] <pardejini> i'm having problems booting b^3 (erased original emmc data), can anyone help me?
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  • [12:01:52] <kfoltman> Jaguar`: I'm just trying to do a simple schematic, find the parts I'm likely to want to use etc. - on the other hand, most of my earlier tries with Eagle and other software were unsuccessful, I got frustrated with the UI and component libraries and quit after a few hours :S
  • [12:02:08] <Jaguar`> yeah
  • [12:02:11] <Jaguar`> try the kicad tutorials
  • [12:02:19] <Jaguar`> it's very simple
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  • [12:33:11] <pardejini> i'm having problems booting b^3 (erased original emmc data),now when i plug in my beagle via USB, it does not recognize the device, and says that "AM335x USB" is not installed, can anyone help me?
  • [12:34:21] <Jaguar`> hi pardejini , have you tried re-flashing it?
  • [12:34:34] <pardejini> how?
  • [12:34:51] <Jaguar`> do you have a microsd card?
  • [12:35:12] <pardejini> yes
  • [12:35:18] <Jaguar`> http://beagleboard.org/Getting%20Started#update
  • [12:35:21] <Jaguar`> :)
  • [12:35:37] <pardejini> i've tryed everything
  • [12:36:08] <pardejini> i cant boot from the uSD ether
  • [12:36:19] <Jaguar`> what happens when you try?
  • [12:36:29] <Jaguar`> do the LEDs flash?
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  • [12:39:59] <pardejini> yes
  • [12:40:11] <pardejini> but i cant access beagle
  • [12:40:32] <pardejini> nor does the linux load
  • [12:41:00] <pardejini> i've tryed putty
  • [12:41:12] <pardejini> to connect through serial or ip
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  • [12:41:29] <pardejini> neither of those were successful
  • [12:41:45] <pardejini> *those atempts
  • [12:44:57] <Jaguar`> pardejini, are you using the flasher image?
  • [12:45:07] <Jaguar`> if so, it will take ~50 minutes until the board is flashed
  • [12:47:49] <pardejini> i used ubuntu's image
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  • [12:48:13] <Jaguar`> oh ok
  • [12:48:21] <Jaguar`> im not familiar with the ubuntu install process
  • [12:48:27] <pardejini> hm
  • [12:48:38] <Jaguar`> you can't 'brick' the device though so i wouldnt be worried
  • [12:48:45] <Jaguar`> failsafe is to always boot from sdcard
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  • [12:48:58] <Jaguar`> but there may be more reading to do before it works :)
  • [12:49:04] <pardejini> what image were you talking aboutt?
  • [12:49:06] <requinham> hi
  • [12:49:26] <Jaguar`> see the link i pasted before
  • [12:49:34] <Jaguar`> the angstrom flasher image
  • [12:49:36] <pardejini> ok
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  • [12:49:51] <pardejini> but when i boot from the SD
  • [12:49:52] <requinham> can anyone attempt to use CAN controller whith beaglebone BLACK A5A and Angstrom image ?
  • [12:50:00] <pardejini> does it flash the emmc automaticlly?
  • [12:50:46] <pardejini> is that what you where talking about?
  • [12:51:59] <Jaguar`> yes
  • [12:52:07] <Jaguar`> if you use the beaglebone black flasher image
  • [12:52:14] <Jaguar`> it will reflash the sdcard
  • [12:52:26] <Jaguar`> BUT that's becauase its a special flasher image
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  • [13:00:19] <pardejini> ok
  • [13:00:27] <pardejini> thanks a lot
  • [13:00:30] <pardejini> :)
  • [13:04:53] <Jaguar`> np
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  • [13:12:23] <Tey> damn
  • [13:12:27] <Tey> just killed my board
  • [13:12:35] <Tey> deleted the mlo and uboot file
  • [13:12:40] <Tey> it wont connect anymore
  • [13:12:43] <mru> KotH: http://www.kellarigalleria.com/taideteokset/dalisilms.jpg
  • [13:16:02] <dwery> I've defined two spi devices in my device tree. the kernel initializes spi1.1 before spi1.0, while I need the other way around... any clues?
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  • [13:20:09] <Humpelstilzchen> dwery: Can't you rename them with udev?
  • [13:20:26] <dwery> nope,dt enumeration it's done when the kernel boots
  • [13:20:32] <dwery> is*
  • [13:20:50] <dwery> I'm not using spidev
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  • [13:38:41] <dwery> Jaguar`: ping
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  • [13:58:43] <dwery> Jaguar`: I'd need an info.. can you dmesg | grep mrf24j40 ?
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  • [14:11:00] <Jaguar`> hey
  • [14:11:06] <Jaguar`> dwery, still there
  • [14:11:08] <Jaguar`> ?
  • [14:11:11] <dwery> yes
  • [14:11:32] <Jaguar`> [ 90.825678] mrf24j40: probe(). IRQ: 193
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  • [14:12:01] <Jaguar`> anything else?
  • [14:12:01] <dwery> ty
  • [14:12:14] <dwery> I'm battling irq issues and wanted to check if the numbers makes any sens
  • [14:12:15] <dwery> e
  • [14:12:18] <Jaguar`> oh
  • [14:12:21] <Jaguar`> whats your irq issue?
  • [14:12:30] <dwery> a spectacular fault :D
  • [14:12:34] <Jaguar`> yep
  • [14:12:38] <Jaguar`> i got one of those :)
  • [14:12:40] <dwery> on my can controllers
  • [14:12:55] <dwery> I think there's some gpio foo magic missing
  • [14:13:11] <Jaguar`> pm me the stack trace?
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  • [14:13:33] <dwery> sure.. let me get the latest one
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  • [14:15:55] <Jaguar`> anyone managed to get wireshark on angstrom?
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  • [14:23:43] <Jaguar`> gtg for now dwery, sorry!
  • [14:23:53] <dwery> Jaguar`: see youlater, thanks!
  • [14:25:15] <dwery> Jaguar`: fixed it, the driver was missing a devm_gpio_request_one
  • [14:25:41] <kfoltman> yay, first PCB done (sorta) with kicad
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  • [14:26:10] <Jaguar`> nice kfoltman
  • [14:26:19] <Jaguar`> cool dwery :)
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  • [14:26:24] <Jaguar`> howed you find kicad?
  • [14:26:33] <Jaguar`> (i really should go to bed :))
  • [14:27:18] <kfoltman> Jaguar`: it's nice - just a little annoying at times (where's my "rip all them tracks out!!!" button? but delete function is good enough)
  • [14:27:27] <kfoltman> less annoying than Eagle though
  • [14:27:30] <Jaguar`> yeah
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  • [14:27:58] <Jaguar`> i kinda like it, there are some bits that are a little bit rough around the edges, but nothing major
  • [14:27:59] <kfoltman> it might become completely not-annoying with more practice :)
  • [14:28:04] <Jaguar`> its actually a very impressive package
  • [14:28:15] <kfoltman> screen refresh via XOR is... not always working too
  • [14:28:21] <Jaguar`> yeah
  • [14:28:31] <Jaguar`> zoom in/out fixes usually
  • [14:28:45] <Jaguar`> quick mousewheel :)
  • [14:29:00] <kfoltman> oh, and another one - lack of panning
  • [14:29:20] <kfoltman> dragging with mouse wheel is reserved for area zoom
  • [14:29:40] <kfoltman> could probably be added in less than a day of coding if I needed it really badly
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  • [14:31:19] <Jaguar`> yeah
  • [14:32:00] <Jaguar`> probably worth making some contribs at some point
  • [14:32:10] <Jaguar`> anyway, i'm tired :) night
  • [14:32:34] <kfoltman> Jaguar`: night - and thanks again!
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  • [15:52:37] <ourmando|xps> need desktop environment for beaglebone black with ubuntu
  • [15:52:52] <ourmando|xps> anyone knw any that work lxde minimual wont work
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  • [16:07:12] <slqa> hi evryone
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  • [16:09:06] <ka6sox> *Yawn*
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  • [16:10:20] <ka6sox> morning Shadyman kaektech
  • [16:12:00] <mru> moaning
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  • [16:15:42] <ka6sox> mourning mru
  • [16:20:08] <ka6sox> hard to believe that mranostay was up and trolling @ 3:40am
  • [16:22:23] <shapr> Who needs sleep?
  • [16:22:26] <shapr> Not me!
  • [16:25:30] <ka6sox> shapr, I got a mug from a DevOps conference...."You can sleep when you are DEAD.
  • [16:25:31] <ka6sox> "
  • [16:26:00] <ka6sox> IC-7410 << want
  • [16:26:01] <m_billybob> plenty of time for sleep in the ground ;)
  • [16:26:10] <ka6sox> wrong channel...sorry
  • [16:26:38] <dwery> now we want it too :D
  • [16:26:49] <ka6sox> hiya dwery!
  • [16:26:52] <dwery> :)
  • [16:26:55] <dwery> howdy?
  • [16:27:10] <ka6sox> how goes the SPI stuffa?
  • [16:27:18] <dwery> I think I've got it right
  • [16:27:25] <dwery> but there's a conflict with HDMI
  • [16:27:37] <ka6sox> I've disabled mine.
  • [16:27:47] <ka6sox> along with eMMC
  • [16:28:02] <ka6sox> (of course I was a bit more drastic with the eMMC)
  • [16:28:23] <dwery> I will move the on another pin with the next PCBs
  • [16:28:43] <dwery> but the srm doesn't report any potential conflict on P9
  • [16:28:44] <malcom2073> Supposidly, it'll be possible to disable the eMMC in software at some point
  • [16:29:12] <ka6sox> dwery, iirc spi0 is taken up by the HDMI audio right?
  • [16:29:52] <ka6sox> malcom2073, I didn't want it working...EVER... takes too many pins from what I would like to do with it...
  • [16:30:09] <dwery> ka6sox: I think so. it seems capes have an higher priority so the hdmi gets disabled
  • [16:30:27] <ka6sox> isn't DT fun?
  • [16:30:32] <malcom2073> ka6sox: I feel the same way, but I don't wanna hardware hack my board up :). There is a reset pin for the eMMC tied to a GPIO, but I think they have to send a "reset enable" command to the eMMC first... waiting to hear official word on it
  • [16:30:46] <dwery> the conflic is on P9.25
  • [16:31:02] <ka6sox> let me check my Son's app to see what that is.
  • [16:31:07] <dwery> much fun.. the file format is a bit pesky
  • [16:31:28] <dwery> you had your son made an app for you?
  • [16:31:32] <dwery> that's child labor! :D
  • [16:32:13] <ka6sox> dwery, pinmux.tking.org
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  • [16:32:26] <ka6sox> dwery, he is trying to earn money for a new computer.
  • [16:32:39] <shapr> Has anyone connected a single cell LiPo to the PMIC on the black?
  • [16:33:11] <ka6sox> shapr, does the TPS know about LiPo?
  • [16:33:20] <ka6sox> the charging curve?
  • [16:33:25] <kaektech> Good mid-morning ka6sox! (slightly delayed by antenna futzing)
  • [16:33:32] <shapr> ka6sox: I think so
  • [16:33:36] <shapr> According to its spec sheet it does.
  • [16:33:39] <dwery> ka6sox: nice app
  • [16:33:50] <ka6sox> dwery, not bad for an 11yr old.
  • [16:34:04] <dwery> absolutely.
  • [16:34:11] * shapr checks the spec sheet to be sure
  • [16:34:26] <ka6sox> he is working on Rev2 that does all the pins and creates the DT fragments.
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  • [16:34:39] <str8_> how much ram do these things have
  • [16:34:47] <str8_> the site just walks about its processor and IO's
  • [16:34:48] <ka6sox> 512MB
  • [16:34:52] <str8_> coo
  • [16:34:54] <str8_> thanks
  • [16:35:04] <ka6sox> yw
  • [16:35:05] <str8_> how would you guys compare it to the pi?
  • [16:35:27] <shapr> ka6sox: check page 26 of http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tps65217b.pdf it has the power curve used.
  • [16:35:30] <kaektech> This morning's modest success: ads-b mapping bone
  • [16:35:37] <ka6sox> MSP>Arduino>Pi>BBB in order of power and stuff.
  • [16:35:48] <dwery> kaektech: great!
  • [16:35:54] <ka6sox> str8_, ^^
  • [16:35:57] <kaektech> http://casa.kaektech.com:8080/
  • [16:36:03] <shapr> Although I've heard that the Pi is better for a media center, but I've not compared the video performance of both.
  • [16:36:35] <dwery> kaektech: DVB-T hw or something else?
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  • [16:36:50] <m_billybob> what shapr said
  • [16:36:51] <dwery> just read the note
  • [16:36:55] <str8_> what controlls the pins? any fancy scripts like the gpio for the pi?
  • [16:36:57] <ka6sox> morning emeb_mac
  • [16:37:02] <str8_> or just standard libs?
  • [16:37:13] <kaektech> dwery: yes. cheap rtl-sdr dongle
  • [16:37:16] <m_billybob> bonescript
  • [16:37:33] <emeb_mac> ka6sox: good morning to you too.
  • [16:37:33] <shapr> ka6sox: Page 23 of http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tps65217b.pdf says that the PMIC chip is specifically designed to charge Li+ batteries, so I assume that means both LiPo and LiFePO4 batteries?
  • [16:37:37] <dwery> kaektech: I made some tests months ago and it worked nicely. console only
  • [16:37:55] <dwery> dwery: drop me a note if you release it
  • [16:38:01] <ka6sox> str8_, there are a lot more Hardware Modules in a BBB than in a Pi, so you don't have to "bitbang" things as much.
  • [16:38:12] <shapr> Yah, the PRUs look nifty.
  • [16:38:14] <str8_> yeah thats why i was looking at it
  • [16:38:19] <str8_> more IO
  • [16:38:20] <str8_> :)
  • [16:38:21] <shapr> real time response!
  • [16:38:38] <ka6sox> shapr, yup, they are an advantage for RT I/O
  • [16:38:42] <m_billybob> bbb == real embedded device ;)
  • [16:38:56] <str8_> what OS is prefered with these?
  • [16:39:01] <str8_> I saw some links on netbsd
  • [16:39:02] <m_billybob> whatever you prefer
  • [16:39:05] <shapr> ka6sox: So, seems like I should plug a handy LiPo into my PMIC and see if I get smoke
  • [16:39:07] <kaektech> dwery: there's not much to release - just installed some software, and stuck an antenna out the window
  • [16:39:24] <m_billybob> str8_ production image is angstrom, but it'll run ubuntu or debian too
  • [16:39:27] <ka6sox> str8_, the official is something called Angstrom, but others are working with debian/ubuntu
  • [16:39:31] <m_billybob> someone has gentoo working on it as well
  • [16:39:45] <str8_> risc is sub processor?
  • [16:39:47] <m_billybob> "
  • [16:39:54] * ka6sox is glad he isn't in the same county as shapr
  • [16:39:57] <m_billybob> "someone" because i dotn remember whom exactly
  • [16:40:04] <ka6sox> str8_, 2 of the sub processors.
  • [16:40:24] <shapr> ka6sox: If you don't hear from me for hours, look for the plume of smoke.
  • [16:40:33] <ka6sox> they can be used separately, or in parallel.
  • [16:40:47] <str8_> the main is arm though correct?
  • [16:40:52] <ka6sox> yes
  • [16:40:57] <ka6sox> Cortex-A8
  • [16:42:31] <str8_> do you guys like black or the standard one better
  • [16:42:36] <str8_> the black version is 1ghz
  • [16:42:52] <str8_> the mor expensive one is 750mhz but has the risc subs
  • [16:42:55] <ka6sox> str8_, the black is new...so its taking some getting used to.
  • [16:43:07] <ka6sox> this one has the risc subs too.
  • [16:43:40] <str8_> oh I should read closer, lol, the page left out RISC on it, but has the rest of the info
  • [16:43:51] <m_billybob> ka6sox arent they essentially the same processor, with a refresh on the processor for the black ?
  • [16:44:38] <str8_> do both of them have 512ram?
  • [16:44:46] <m_billybob> no
  • [16:44:55] <m_billybob> the white has 256MB
  • [16:45:11] <str8_> why is white more expensive?
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  • [16:45:50] <m_billybob> No idea but id assume it largely has to do with quantities made in one pass
  • [16:46:14] <m_billybob> mostly speculation on my own behalf though
  • [16:46:45] <str8_> so black is better?
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  • [16:47:16] <m_billybob> hard question to answer i think
  • [16:47:45] <m_billybob> spec wise it is, software wise since the black is new, and uses new kernel etc, it wil ltake a while to catch up
  • [16:47:57] <ka6sox> str8_, the real answer I think...is a commitment to making LOTS more of the Black....
  • [16:49:26] <str8_> damn it you guys, im gonna have to buy one now
  • [16:49:27] <ka6sox> str8_, Mission Accomplished!
  • [16:49:27] <m_billybob> heh
  • [16:49:27] <m_billybob> str8_ seriously though for only $45 can you truly go wrong ?
  • [16:49:28] <str8_> right
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  • [16:51:56] <m_billybob> Ive personally had nothing but a possitive experience with mine.
  • [16:51:57] <dwery> plus you will get hours of device tree fun!
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  • [16:51:57] <m_billybob> ther ya go yes, i havent gotten to that part yet ;)
  • [16:51:58] <str8_> anyone use a small stepper motor with one yet?
  • [16:51:58] <ka6sox> dwery, ssssssh...thats the icing on the cake.
  • [16:51:58] <ka6sox> str8_, teh stepper capes work with it.
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  • [16:52:11] <ka6sox> dwery, this app my son is working on I'm hoping will help ease the DT pain.
  • [16:52:24] <m_billybob> oh an PRU's . . . in the context of PWM more than one person has
  • [16:52:31] <m_billybob> a project for*
  • [16:52:32] <dwery> nice. I'm trying to find a nearby pion that's not widelyused
  • [16:52:44] <m_billybob> ka6sox, me too !
  • [16:53:07] <ka6sox> m_billybob, you making an app to write the dtbo?
  • [16:53:17] <m_billybob> ka6sox, your son, he is good with css too ?
  • [16:53:29] <m_billybob> no no im hopign the app your son is making will ease DT too
  • [16:53:38] <ka6sox> dunno, I ask for KISS...don't care about CSS much.
  • [16:53:40] <m_billybob> looks great so far
  • [16:54:12] <mranostay> morning
  • [16:54:25] <m_billybob> ka6sox, ah only reason why i ask is im not exactly an EE, and well yeah i need hand holding from time to time.
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  • [16:54:34] <mranostay> oh PRU talk
  • [16:54:35] <ka6sox> he is working on rev2 that looks more like Rickta59 's example
  • [16:54:39] <m_billybob> but i supposei could learn to deal with it ;)
  • [16:54:45] * ka6sox hands mranostay a Bloody Mary.
  • [16:54:51] <m_billybob> the googe db ?
  • [16:54:58] <mranostay> best way to start the morning
  • [16:55:21] <mranostay> ka6sox: nah i think i'll stick to my gatorade
  • [16:55:45] <ka6sox> hey mranostay its #caturday
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  • [16:56:07] <ka6sox> kaektech, out in the middle of a field?
  • [16:56:08] <m_billybob> gah speaking of whcih i got to get out nd do some "ranch" work
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  • [16:56:42] <kaektech> ka6sox: Nah, backyard.
  • [16:57:18] <ka6sox> I think my backyard is 10X10.
  • [16:57:31] <m_billybob> got ya beat there
  • [16:57:51] <kaektech> ka6sox: Although, as bad as I need to mow, yes, it does look like a field.
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  • [16:58:20] <ka6sox> you could put a whole football pitch on that with stands!
  • [16:59:46] <m_billybob> we're lucky we could put a footbal field stands parkign lot and probably have room left over for a shopping mall too
  • [16:59:58] <m_billybob> 40 acres . . .
  • [17:00:27] <dwery> I think we need a tool to evaluate compatibility between the capes
  • [17:00:42] <m_billybob> mowing this place is a serious pita to say the least.
  • [17:00:55] <kaektech> m_billybob: pave it
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  • [17:01:27] <m_billybob> naw kaektech we have livestock, trying for self sustained here
  • [17:02:19] <kaektech> m_billybob: I'm about to stick some livestock in my smoker
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  • [17:08:20] <Guest44834> Greetings ,I would like to know that since beagleboard xm do not have any CMOS battery,then where it saves the BIOS configuration
  • [17:08:30] <_av500_> no battery
  • [17:08:38] <_av500_> no BIOS either
  • [17:08:44] <_av500_> nothing to save
  • [17:08:47] <m_billybob> kaektech, lol yeah thats the idea ;)
  • [17:09:08] <Guest44834> then
  • [17:09:13] <Guest44834> ?
  • [17:09:26] <Guest44834> Dont it need that,and why/
  • [17:12:11] <ka6sox> dwery, you mean like one that deconflicts pins?
  • [17:12:46] <dwery> not necessarily... a warning on the conflicting pins would be a start
  • [17:13:00] <dwery> I think I'm going with P9.23
  • [17:13:02] <kaektech> Guest44834: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=beagleboard+xm+srm
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  • [17:14:37] <ka6sox> dwery, thats what Rev2 of the app does.
  • [17:14:43] <dwery> nice
  • [17:14:47] <ka6sox> warns you of conflicts
  • [17:15:43] <Guest44834> kaektech ,I read it not completely though,can you just point where it is explained
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  • [17:16:32] <str8_> ctrl + f
  • [17:16:58] <kaektech> Guest44834: No. We are not here to help you read. Read it for yourself.
  • [17:18:06] <ka6sox> dwery, https://github.com/ka6sox/BoneTag << JTAG/SWD/SBW/AVRisp cape.
  • [17:18:17] <dwery> saw it before :)
  • [17:19:26] <ka6sox> hmmmm...
  • [17:19:34] <ka6sox> you have been lurking :)
  • [17:19:47] <dwery> once in a while
  • [17:19:49] <dwery> :)
  • [17:20:09] <ka6sox> I'm hoping the GSoC gets picked up :)
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  • [17:22:08] <ka6sox> okay, back to layout...
  • [17:22:14] <ka6sox> later Ladies and Trolls.
  • [17:22:34] * ka6sox is now known as ka6sox-farfarawa
  • [17:22:52] <mranostay> hey ladies can be trolls too
  • [17:23:07] <mranostay> trolls and non-trolls seems more PC
  • [17:23:29] <ka6sox-farfarawa> who said I was PC?
  • [17:24:18] <ka6sox-farfarawa> mranostay, you are slipping...where is the #caturday picture....just because you were on an All Night Bender doesn't release you from your responsibilities
  • [17:24:56] <kaektech> PC? I thought we were discussing ARM in here?
  • [17:25:35] <ka6sox-farfarawa> kaektech, are rarely On Topic...you happen to catch us on a good day...
  • [17:25:59] <kaektech> I know...
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  • [17:26:40] <ka6sox-farfarawa> okay I need to hide this window if I'm going to get any layout done...laters
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  • [17:31:35] <kaektech> The magic clock chimed and said the pork was ready. Time to build a fire. Adios for now.
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  • [17:45:37] <mru> swedes at the next table, boring conversation
  • [17:46:07] <mru> it's more fun when they think nobody undetstands them
  • [17:47:13] <emeb_mac> kind of a dumb assumption these days.
  • [17:47:34] <mru> it always was
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  • [17:51:06] <Humpelstilzchen> uhm..these blue leds are really...
  • [17:51:25] <emeb_mac> *bitchin*
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  • [17:57:41] <shapr> mru: I had that happen the last time I was in Portland, the Swedes at the next table assumed I didn't understand them. But when I walked away they saw the Swedish shirt I was wearing.
  • [17:58:06] <mru> hehe
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  • [17:58:27] <mru> always save the reveal for the end
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  • [18:08:00] <emeb_mac> ... best served cold...
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  • [18:24:10] <mru> shapr: btw, there's a company doing construction work all over berlin called 'porr'
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  • [18:24:47] <mru> I find that slightly amusing
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  • [18:26:26] * emeb_mac google translates "porr". heh.
  • [18:27:17] <mru> and they're _everywhere_
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  • [18:30:28] <ka6sox-farfarawa> kind of like pidora
  • [18:37:43] <Rickta59> shapr, .. which beagle do you have?
  • [18:40:46] <Rickta59> so does anyone have any success stories with any of those $5 wifi dongles on ebay?
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  • [18:51:10] <mru> ka6sox-farfarawa: the difference being that the construction company presumably isn't entirely useless
  • [18:51:43] <ka6sox-farfarawa> mru, +1
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  • [19:33:54] <mranostay> beagle_jkridner: merged with boris?
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  • [19:34:18] <jkridner> was for the GSoC meeting earlier
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  • [20:24:06] <_av500_> ahoi
  • [20:24:35] <ka6sox-farfarawa> arrrr
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  • [20:26:36] <emeb> avast!
  • [20:27:11] <emeb> http://www.arrrrrr.com/
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  • [20:40:17] <robotguy> anyone have any ideas why i cannot reboot my beaglebone black?
  • [20:40:27] <robotguy> it hangs, then kernal panics "drm_kms_helper: panic occurred, switching back to text console"
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  • [20:49:32] <robotguy> anyone have any ideas why i cannot reboot my beaglebone black?
  • [20:50:24] <chupacabra> reboot doesnt work?
  • [20:50:40] <robotguy> no it hangs, then kernal panics
  • [20:50:44] <robotguy> *kernel
  • [20:51:02] <chupacabra> hangs on way down?
  • [20:51:35] <robotguy> hangs after: Stopping very small Busybox based DHCP server: Stopped /usr/sbin/udhcpd (pid 765). udhcpd. * Asking all remaining processes to terminate... [ OK ] * All processes ended within 1 seconds.... [ OK ]
  • [20:51:57] <robotguy> then kernel panics (i have that too if you want to see it)
  • [20:52:16] <chupacabra> what os?
  • [20:52:26] <robotguy> ubuntu 12.10
  • [20:52:44] <ka6sox-farfarawa> robotguy, ow ow ow owwwwwww.....
  • [20:52:52] <chupacabra> prolly should ask those guys.
  • [20:52:52] <ka6sox-farfarawa> why bleeding edge?
  • [20:53:07] <ka6sox-farfarawa> thats a maid to fale.
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  • [20:54:45] <robotguy> idk why 12.10, i think i might just switch to 13.04, i have nothing invested in this install right now
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  • [21:04:10] <robotguy> i switched to 13.04 and now it reboots fine
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  • [21:13:30] <ka6sox-farfarawa> robotguy, they can barely keep x86 from breaking with 13.10...arm is going to be worse.
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  • [21:19:37] <robotguy> then what do you reccomend using?
  • [21:20:29] <mru> linux
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  • [21:25:16] <v2345vewer> is beagleboard better than rpi?
  • [21:25:35] <Humpelstilzchen> v2345vewer: for what usecase?
  • [21:27:01] <v2345vewer> house automation
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  • [21:28:13] <robotguy> the bone has more GPIO than the rpi
  • [21:28:23] <Rickta59> did you find a prebuilt ubuntu image robotguy ?
  • [21:28:34] <robotguy> yeah
  • [21:28:37] <Rickta59> link?
  • [21:28:45] <robotguy> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu
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  • [21:30:09] <v2345vewer> can I run debian on it?
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  • [21:30:37] <Humpelstilzchen> v2345vewer: I hope so
  • [21:30:51] <Humpelstilzchen> v2345vewer: just got mine and will try it soon :)
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  • [21:31:51] <Humpelstilzchen> v2345vewer: elinux has a page about using the beagle with debian
  • [21:32:17] <risc> v2345vewer: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian
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  • [21:33:12] <Humpelstilzchen> v2345vewer: of course you can alway get both boards and try them out :)
  • [21:34:13] <Humpelstilzchen> risc: why is the process so complicated? Shouldn't it just be "place a few files on boot and do a debootstrap?
  • [21:35:05] <risc> Humpelstilzchen: I'm wanting to get FreeBSD running on mine, I need to cross compile the whole OS to a SD card... the Debian process looks a lot easier :P
  • [21:35:36] <risc> I found an image for Debian earlier that I haven't tested... let me find the site
  • [21:36:29] <risc> http://www.armhf.com/index.php/boards/beaglebone-black/
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  • [21:42:23] <ozzloy> i just plugged in a beagle bone black via usb and i'm unable to browse to http://192.168.7.2/
  • [21:42:31] <ozzloy> i'm running ubuntu 12.04
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  • [21:44:27] <ozzloy> can someone help me troubleshoot?
  • [21:44:33] <Humpelstilzchen> ozzloy: just sitting on the same, though it works over ethernet
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  • [21:44:46] <ozzloy> interesting
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  • [21:45:06] <ozzloy> so i am working with another guy. we have 2 boards. for him, both work if he just plugs them in
  • [21:45:23] <Humpelstilzchen> oh and it seems the board needs a new firmware
  • [21:45:38] <ozzloy> he can just browse to the page. i cannot. i'll see if i can find an ethernet cable
  • [21:45:44] <ozzloy> we're both running 12.04
  • [21:45:48] <ozzloy> brb
  • [21:46:46] <risc> well if both boards are working for him and not you, it's your Ubuntu setup or you haven't installed the drivers?
  • [21:47:15] <Humpelstilzchen> it says driver installation is not required
  • [21:48:07] <risc> I've been using mine via OS X, but there was definitely a Linux shell script on the card/website
  • [21:48:16] <Humpelstilzchen> just udev rules
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  • [21:49:00] <ozzloy> he didn't install drivers
  • [21:49:05] <ozzloy> and yes, it's my ubuntu setup
  • [21:49:07] <ozzloy> i'm not sure what
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  • [21:49:39] <ozzloy> for fun, i ran the script to add udev rules
  • [21:49:46] <ozzloy> it was loads of fun
  • [21:50:10] <risc> outside running a diff against the 2 installs I've got no idea how anyone can help you, as you've already said your card actually work
  • [21:50:14] <ozzloy> it works with an ehternet cable!
  • [21:50:53] <Humpelstilzchen> my beagle has the usb network setup, but my host not..
  • [21:51:03] <ozzloy> someone who knows networking better than i could probably help
  • [21:51:16] <ozzloy> networking is a sore spot for me
  • [21:51:38] <risc> I work with networks every day, but would have no idea how to diagnose a working card... but then I don't use Ubuntu at all, shit seems broken to me :)
  • [21:52:41] <Humpelstilzchen> risc: not card specific, looks like the beagle is supposed to do ethernet over usb
  • [21:52:53] <risc> it does
  • [21:53:00] <risc> it works perfectly here on OS X :)
  • [21:53:25] <risc> looks Ubuntu or Linux specific to me
  • [21:53:50] <risc> I've only mucked around with my Black via usb, and ssh root@192.168.7.2 works exactly as expected
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  • [22:00:52] <shapr> Rickta59: I have the BBB, and a Rosewell $10 wifi dongle that works fine once I installed the firmware package... rtl8xxx something
  • [22:01:13] <Rickta59> thanks shapr
  • [22:01:33] <Rickta59> i've been losing my internet allday .. so if you pinged me earlier with that .. sorry
  • [22:01:44] <shapr> Rickta59: Nah, I was out mowing :-)
  • [22:01:52] <Rickta59> so have you got haskell going on it yet?
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  • [22:02:26] <shapr> Rickta59: Nope, I've been distracted. But this next week my wife is out of town with the car, so I'll have five days of focus time!
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  • [22:02:43] <Rickta59> i'm pretty impressed with this thing so far
  • [22:03:00] <Rickta59> it is comparable to the x86 850MHz i have sitting on the floor ;)
  • [22:03:12] <Rickta59> 1999 machine
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  • [22:03:36] <ka6sox-farfarawa> Rickta59, and a whole lot less power and noise....
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  • [22:03:52] <Rickta59> yeah it is sitting .. only turn it on in the winter for heat
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  • [22:12:18] <Humpelstilzchen> ozzloy: ok found my problem..
  • [22:12:24] <Humpelstilzchen> I think
  • [22:14:26] <shapr> Rickta59: Yah, except the DDR3 memory is faster, and the eMMC is probably faster, and it costs a lot less to run :-)
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  • [22:15:30] <Rickta59> i'm trying to figure out where to plug the ati 9700 pro
  • [22:16:46] <Rickta59> is there a cape for that : ) ?
  • [22:17:57] <Rickta59> it would be interesting to try and connect up some old isa card
  • [22:18:24] <Humpelstilzchen> you could try an fpga cape for that
  • [22:18:52] <Rickta59> or try and get some old ata ide drives to work
  • [22:19:13] <Rickta59> but .. hmm .. no
  • [22:19:16] <mru> isa cape has been suggested before
  • [22:19:31] <mru> ata ~= isa
  • [22:19:37] <ka6sox-farfarawa> I don't think there is room for the connector!
  • [22:19:38] <mrpackethead> there is suppaobly a cape that has a SATA interace
  • [22:19:45] <mrpackethead> the Logi-bone
  • [22:19:46] <Humpelstilzchen> seems like beagle is needing rndis_host, though why isn't that documented
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  • [22:20:26] <Rickta59> i've seen an 8051 project that accessed some old ide drives
  • [22:21:24] <ozzloy> Humpelstilzchen: what problem?
  • [22:21:40] <Humpelstilzchen> ozzloy: why my network does not work
  • [22:21:52] <Rickta59> from windows?
  • [22:22:04] <Humpelstilzchen> Debian
  • [22:22:12] <Rickta59> just worked here in ubuntu
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  • [22:24:30] <ozzloy> Humpelstilzchen: what was the problem?
  • [22:24:51] <ozzloy> Humpelstilzchen: more importantly, what was the fix?
  • [22:25:52] <Humpelstilzchen> ozzloy: My self compiled kernel was missing the modul rndis_host
  • [22:26:01] <ka6sox-farfarawa> d'oh
  • [22:26:10] <Humpelstilzchen> hey i have cdc_ether^
  • [22:26:29] <Humpelstilzchen> ozzloy: lets check your problem, do you get a network device?
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  • [22:29:25] <ozzloy> Humpelstilzchen: i don't know
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  • [22:29:46] <Humpelstilzchen> ozzloy: pastebin ifconfig -a
  • [22:29:55] <ozzloy> Humpelstilzchen: kk
  • [22:30:25] <ozzloy> http://pastebin.com/2DmQDZVV
  • [22:30:29] <ozzloy> oh wait
  • [22:30:49] <ozzloy> i'm trying to run ubuntu off an sd card, hold on i'll reboot it to the angstrom
  • [22:31:11] <ozzloy> ok, i'll rerun that with just the usb plugged in
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  • [22:31:20] <ozzloy> what i really want is to get ROS on this thing
  • [22:32:10] <ozzloy> here's ifconfig -a with just usb plugged in and no microsd in the slot http://pastebin.com/05WH0PkR
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  • [22:32:22] <ozzloy> and i can view files on the board
  • [22:32:48] <ozzloy> the beagle bone gets auto mounted at /media/BEAGLEBONE
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  • [22:33:08] <johnresh> anyone know future direction of hwmod? Is all the data going into DT ultimately?
  • [22:33:41] <ka6sox-farfarawa> johnresh, depends on who you talk to...
  • [22:33:47] <johnresh> lol
  • [22:34:08] <shapr> ozzloy: Rats of Size? What's ROS?
  • [22:34:12] <Humpelstilzchen> ozzloy: you seem to get the usb device but for some reason have another ip there
  • [22:34:17] <shapr> Oh, Realtime Operating System?
  • [22:34:19] <Humpelstilzchen> robot operationg system
  • [22:34:22] <Humpelstilzchen> ros.org
  • [22:34:31] <mru> robot rats?
  • [22:34:31] <johnresh> ka6sox-farfarawa: doc for omap-i2c.txt says "Future plan is to migrate hwmod data base contents into device tree 19 blob so that, all the required data will be used from device tree dts 20 file."
  • [22:34:39] <shapr> bah, not nearly as interesting as getting rodents installed on a BeagleBone :-P
  • [22:34:39] <johnresh> but I hear lots of different stories.
  • [22:34:51] <shapr> I'm going to make a fork of the BBB and call it the BeagleBane!
  • [22:35:12] <johnresh> ka6sox-farfarawa:
  • [22:35:34] <mru> shapr: :)
  • [22:35:34] <Humpelstilzchen> ozzloy: do you have done any static configuration on eth1?
  • [22:36:00] <ozzloy> Humpelstilzchen: how do i check? maybe. i use openvpn for work. maybe that's screwing something up?
  • [22:36:07] <ka6sox-farfarawa> johnresh, depending on who you talk to they are about ready to kill the inventor of DT or just shake their heads and go back to the "olde way" and not upgrade kernels.
  • [22:36:31] <Humpelstilzchen> ozzloy: what if you just try to get a dhcp-ip on eth1?
  • [22:36:37] <mru> how about a mechanical bat, a robat?
  • [22:36:52] <shapr> mru: That's PERFECT!
  • [22:36:52] <kaektech-fire> batty
  • [22:37:04] <ka6sox-farfarawa> johnresh, there are a few who have embraced it as the "future" but most are being dragged kicking and screaming...
  • [22:37:12] <johnresh> ka6sox-farfarawa: I meant mainline kernel from kernel.org
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  • [22:37:21] <johnresh> embraced DT?
  • [22:37:38] <johnresh> ka6sox-farfarawa: ok
  • [22:37:52] <shapr> So, what is hwmod anyway?
  • [22:38:03] <johnresh> ka6sox-farfarawa: I think certain information like clock-tree data should still be in hwmod
  • [22:38:14] <ka6sox-farfarawa> johnresh, I only know about what I hear here on this channel and in/on the mailinglist/googlegroup/ph0rum
  • [22:38:19] <Sicelo> ozzloy: is there /etc/network/interfaces there? if so, what does it contain
  • [22:38:49] <ka6sox-farfarawa> johnresh, I'm not sure we get the choice...
  • [22:39:11] <ka6sox-farfarawa> and clock/power domains have always been "fun"
  • [22:39:30] <johnresh> ka6sox-farfarawa: hm ok.. doing git log of hwmod , doesn't seem like any of it is reduced in near future (atleast for #beagle bone's SoC)
  • [22:39:50] <johnresh> s/future/recent past/
  • [22:40:41] <johnresh> so i think it is still very much alive ;-)
  • [22:41:01] <ka6sox-farfarawa> there was talk about mainlining the hwmod stuff but I don't know how.
  • [22:41:07] <johnresh> anyway dt is more like replacing platform data looks like, than replacing hwmod, would you agree?
  • [22:41:14] <ozzloy> Humpelstilzchen: dhcp-ip eth1 zsh: command not found: dhcp-ip
  • [22:41:25] <ozzloy> Sicelo: checking
  • [22:41:33] <ka6sox-farfarawa> johnresh, its replacing the platform datafiles yes.
  • [22:41:42] <ozzloy> Sicelo: ~/ cat /etc/network/interfaces auto lo iface lo inet loopback
  • [22:41:46] <ka6sox-farfarawa> and doing things like pinmuxing
  • [22:41:47] <Humpelstilzchen> ozzloy: thats not a command, dhclient eth1 would be the command, but you should be able to do that via network manager
  • [22:42:19] <ozzloy> ~/ sudo dhclient eth1 (no output)
  • [22:42:28] <ozzloy> "via network manager"?
  • [22:42:38] <Humpelstilzchen> ozzloy: now try again
  • [22:42:44] <ka6sox-farfarawa> Humpelstilzchen, I've had problems with network mangler...I just turn it off and do it the old way...much safer.
  • [22:42:50] <Humpelstilzchen> to connect
  • [22:42:53] <ozzloy> try ... 192.168.7.2?
  • [22:42:55] <Humpelstilzchen> ka6sox-farfarawa: I never used it :)
  • [22:43:11] <Sicelo> ka6sox-farfarawa: +1
  • [22:43:26] <ozzloy> Humpelstilzchen: it worked!
  • [22:43:39] <ozzloy> Humpelstilzchen: what just happened?
  • [22:43:46] <ozzloy> why did it not work, why does it work now?
  • [22:43:57] <ka6sox-farfarawa> ozzloy, that will remain a MAJOR mystery...
  • [22:44:19] <ozzloy> Humpelstilzchen: could you give me some guesses?
  • [22:44:52] <Sicelo> :P
  • [22:44:53] <Humpelstilzchen> ozzloy: for some reason your system did not fetched an ip from the beagle
  • [22:45:15] <ozzloy> ic
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  • [22:48:15] <tdilly> I lose video if I connect anything extra to my BBB besides video (tried keyboard and ethernet) I'm using walwart USB that supplies 850 mA, is that not enough juice?
  • [22:48:47] <shapr> tdilly: Ethernet certainly shouldn't consume much power.
  • [22:49:18] <tdilly> I can either do eithernet or video, else I won't get video
  • [22:50:02] <tdilly> they both work individually but not together
  • [22:50:32] <shapr> Do you see anything in the logs at the point where it dies?
  • [22:51:16] <tdilly> shapr: Nope, if I boot with them both I never get video, if I boot with video then connect ethernet I lose video
  • [22:51:43] <shapr> Boot with ethernet then connect video?
  • [22:51:59] <tdilly> shapr: Will give it a shot
  • [22:52:14] <shapr> tdilly: If you're watching the logs as it happens, you might get some useful output?
  • [22:55:00] <tdilly> shapr: I got: "tilcdc 4830e000.fb: Connected to an HDMI monitor with cea mode 1" and a some white lines on the montor
  • [22:55:12] <tdilly> shapr: from dmesg
  • [22:57:05] <shapr> Well, the HDMI port sees the monitor :-)
  • [22:57:33] <tdilly> I have a 1.5A walwart but it's adjustable and only does either 4.5V or 6V for some reason no 5V :/
  • [22:57:46] <shapr> suck :-(
  • [22:57:57] <Leolo_3> this might be a silly question : where is access to the GPIO pins documented?
  • [22:57:58] <shapr> I think the beaglebone black really wants 5v +/- 5%
  • [22:58:07] <shapr> Leolo_3: What sort of access?
  • [22:58:18] <Leolo_3> program
  • [22:58:21] <Leolo_3> from Perl, say
  • [22:58:23] <tdilly> I'm wondering if the USB walkwart doesn't really put out 850mA?
  • [22:58:30] <Leolo_3> I can find the pinouts, no problem
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  • [22:59:02] <shapr> tdilly: I dunno, have you tried powering it from the USB port on a laptop?
  • [22:59:11] <Humpelstilzchen> Leolo_3: you can usually read/write gpios via sysfs
  • [22:59:29] <shapr> tdilly: Alternatively, would you happen to have one of those dual-input usb ports that do 1000mA?
  • [22:59:32] <shapr> er, usb cable...
  • [23:00:04] <shapr> tdilly: I have one of these: http://www.datoptic.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/500x500/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/f/i/file_15_9.jpg
  • [23:00:28] <shapr> tdilly: Do you have a different HDMI monitor you could try?
  • [23:00:29] <ka6sox-farfarawa> johnresh, http://linuxgizmos.com/beaglebone-black-climbs-the-device-tree-with-linux-3-8/
  • [23:00:45] <tdilly> shapr: negatory on the dual-usb cable, I'll try laptop usb and see what I get, I know the ethernet will work but didn't try with video at the same time
  • [23:01:00] <johnresh> ka6sox-farfarawa: yes i read that
  • [23:01:05] <shapr> tdilly: have you read http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBoneBlack_HDMI ?
  • [23:01:30] <johnresh> thx
  • [23:01:49] <Leolo_3> humpel : I don't (yet) have a board. Imma looking for doco
  • [23:01:52] <johnresh> DT can hold info of both SoC and board, while hwmod is for the SoC
  • [23:01:52] <tdilly> shapr: no I didn't read that, video does work though, just not with anything else attached, I'll look over that and try laptopt usb
  • [23:02:30] <ka6sox-farfarawa> I knew I was saying the wrong thing..it replaces "boardfiles"
  • [23:02:48] <johnresh> I wish the distinction was more clear. What is the need to move everything into DT? Is it because SoC's are proliferating at such a high rate that kernel developers want to keep it more out of tree?
  • [23:02:56] <ka6sox-farfarawa> johnresh, DT will not unify the ARM space...too many Vendors who won't play ball.
  • [23:03:24] <johnresh> johnresh: hwmod -> DT decision is more omap'ish right
  • [23:03:37] <johnresh> are there really SoCs that put _all_ info into DT?
  • [23:04:00] <ka6sox-farfarawa> from what i'm reading the sparc and ppc ones do.
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  • [23:04:12] <johnresh> right
  • [23:04:17] <ka6sox-farfarawa> (not as many flavours of those however)
  • [23:04:26] <Humpelstilzchen> afaik zynq-7000 has nearly all in the DT
  • [23:04:31] <ka6sox-farfarawa> s/sparc/sharc/
  • [23:04:40] <ka6sox-farfarawa> Humpelstilzchen, thats a very late comer.
  • [23:05:09] <ka6sox-farfarawa> probably started with 3.7 when DT was in its infancy.
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  • [23:05:15] <Rickta59> so before DT how did you set stuff up? it was in the kernel?
  • [23:05:19] <Humpelstilzchen> ka6sox-farfarawa: the default kernel is 3.2
  • [23:05:42] <Rickta59> or you just had to reconfigure with some code?
  • [23:05:47] <ka6sox-farfarawa> ah, okay...I keep wanting to get one as I like VHDL...but the $300 price tag scares me off.
  • [23:06:01] <joel_> Moving to pure DT for linux-omap can be a big challenge as I see it,... all the hwmod lookup code will break ;)
  • [23:06:02] <Humpelstilzchen> the 300 is the cheap board ;)
  • [23:06:19] <ka6sox-farfarawa> joel_, +1
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  • [23:06:53] <ka6sox-farfarawa> Humpelstilzchen, ya, I see that :P
  • [23:07:20] <ka6sox-farfarawa> Humpelstilzchen, I'd rather buy a BBB and a BCC and have fun with that
  • [23:07:27] <kaektech-baste> But I thought DT cured cancer and brought peace to the middle east?
  • [23:07:43] <kaektech-baste> ka6sox-farfarawa: BCC +1
  • [23:07:44] <ozzloy> how do i check if the bbb is sdb? this page says it assumes that's where the bbb is
  • [23:07:46] <ozzloy> http://www.armhf.com/index.php/getting-started-with-ubuntu-img-file/
  • [23:08:04] <Humpelstilzchen> ozzloy: look in dmesg
  • [23:08:11] <ozzloy> i did ls /dev|grep mmc
  • [23:08:21] <ozzloy> Humpelstilzchen: k
  • [23:08:36] <ka6sox-farfarawa> dmesg | grep mmc
  • [23:08:52] <ozzloy> Humpelstilzchen: dmesg|grep sdb ?
  • [23:09:09] <ka6sox-farfarawa> what are you looking for?
  • [23:10:14] <ozzloy> i did that and got tons of output http://pastebin.com/iG9eUSjt
  • [23:10:18] <ozzloy> ka6sox-farfarawa: you asking me?
  • [23:10:30] <ozzloy> my overall goal is to get ROS on the BBB
  • [23:10:40] <Humpelstilzchen> ozzloy: looks like sdb
  • [23:11:02] <ka6sox-farfarawa> ozzloy, iirc there is a proposal for a GSoC project to do this...
  • [23:11:14] <ozzloy> my current attack vector is to put ubuntu on it, then get the ROS packages
  • [23:11:19] <ka6sox-farfarawa> so I suspect they don't think this cvan be done in a day.
  • [23:11:38] <ozzloy> Humpelstilzchen: k. giving it a whack
  • [23:12:51] <ka6sox-farfarawa> ozzloy, http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2013/vmayoral/3002
  • [23:13:58] <ozzloy> http://pastebin.com/i8wvhsbj
  • [23:14:14] <ozzloy> it doesn't write, says there's no space on sdb
  • [23:15:21] <tdilly> shapr: strange everything seems to be working at the same time now even keyboard, I just went through the steps of that doc you sent to see if my default resolution was supported
  • [23:16:09] <tdilly> now back to my original task of getting arch on it :)
  • [23:16:33] <Humpelstilzchen> ozzloy: uhm you currently have an sd card reader attached and the card inserted?
  • [23:17:46] <ozzloy> Humpelstilzchen: i was trying something dumb. trying something else now (possibly also dumb)
  • [23:18:06] <Rickta59> well that was painless .. ubuntu image install
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  • [23:20:24] <ka6sox-farfarawa> ozzloy, did you look at that GSoC proposal?
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  • [23:20:31] <Rickta59_> how about from here
  • [23:20:39] <ka6sox-farfarawa> can't see you from there.
  • [23:20:45] <ozzloy> ok, not much better. ka6sox-farfarawa i saw the front page, looks cool
  • [23:21:01] <Rickta59_> nice .. does angstrom have a web based terminal emulator too?
  • [23:21:05] <Rickta59_> i hadn't noticed it
  • [23:21:05] <ka6sox-farfarawa> ozzloy, so apparently they don't think its a weekend project.
  • [23:21:22] <ozzloy> Humpelstilzchen: ok, so i realized that this wasn't going to write to the bbb directly and instead would write to a micro sd card
  • [23:21:35] <ka6sox-farfarawa> Rickta59_, xterm?
  • [23:21:39] <ka6sox-farfarawa> oh wait
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  • [23:21:43] <ka6sox-farfarawa> web based.
  • [23:21:45] <Rickta59> i mean from the web
  • [23:21:46] <ka6sox-farfarawa> never mind
  • [23:22:14] <ka6sox-farfarawa> hmmm...wonder if wTerm would work...
  • [23:22:14] <Rickta59_> i'm here in chrome, connected to the beagle bone on ubuntu
  • [23:22:26] <ozzloy> Rickta59_: neat
  • [23:22:36] <Rickta59_> "Shell in a box" ..
  • [23:22:38] <ozzloy> ka6sox-farfarawa: good thing i have no idea that what i'm doing is impossible
  • [23:22:46] <Rickta59_> strangle makes me think of SNL
  • [23:22:48] <ozzloy> s/doing/attempting/
  • [23:22:55] <Rickta59_> strangely .. it does
  • [23:22:58] <ozzloy> otherwise i might not try ^_^
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  • [23:23:54] <ozzloy> Humpelstilzchen: ok, so i put a microsd card in my computer, then tried to run the xz thing and got this: http://pastebin.com/WZyXf4ST
  • [23:24:13] <Humpelstilzchen> ozzloy: dmesg?
  • [23:24:25] <Rickta59_> https://code.google.com/p/shellinabox/ .. that is what ubuntu is running
  • [23:24:45] <ozzloy> Humpelstilzchen: all of it?
  • [23:24:50] <Rickta59_> ubuntu on the BBB
  • [23:24:57] <Humpelstilzchen> last 20 lines or so
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  • [23:28:04] <ozzloy> Humpelstilzchen: http://pastebin.com/A41Asq3z tail end of dmesg
  • [23:28:45] <Humpelstilzchen> ozzloy: it says sdc there
  • [23:28:50] <ozzloy> yes?
  • [23:29:19] <ozzloy> root@planchet:~# xz -cd ./ubuntu-12.04-armhf-minfs-3.8.13-bone18.img.xz > /dev/sdc -su: /dev/sdc: No medium found
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  • [23:31:41] <ka6sox-farfarawa> enumeration creep
  • [23:33:36] <kfoltman> who enumerates the enumerators?
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  • [23:34:15] <Humpelstilzchen> besides of the error, does xz -cd really works?
  • [23:34:58] <ozzloy> Humpelstilzchen: oh, maybe?
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  • [23:43:07] <ozzloy> Humpelstilzchen: it was the card.
  • [23:43:23] <ozzloy> Humpelstilzchen: new microSD card is working fine
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  • [23:50:09] <Shadyman> BAM https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/942811_10151427639411226_1136920696_n.jpg Duracell, you make my BBB happy.
  • [23:50:26] <ozzloy> Humpelstilzchen: thanks for your help on this! super appreciated
  • [23:50:47] <ozzloy> ka6sox-farfarawa: thank you too!
  • [23:52:18] <Humpelstilzchen> np
  • [23:53:10] <Humpelstilzchen> n8