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  • [00:12:04] <mranostay> jkridner|work: do the harlem shake!
  • [00:12:14] <jkridner|work> :) OK
  • [00:13:05] <mranostay> jkridner|work: at collab?
  • [00:13:30] <jkridner|work> again? not currently planning on making it to collab.
  • [00:13:33] <jkridner|work> maker faire?
  • [00:14:40] <ka6sox> in SF?
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  • [00:53:32] <jkridner|work> yes
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  • [01:03:30] <mrpackethead> jkridner|work is blackfriday still next week?
  • [01:03:48] <jkridner|work> yup.
  • [01:03:53] <mrpackethead> cool.
  • [01:03:59] <mrpackethead> so, can i send you an order
  • [01:04:38] <mrpackethead> ?
  • [01:06:59] <ds2> blah... I need to figure out my password
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  • [01:33:47] <jkridner|work> mrpackethead: me? you need to order through a distributor or CircuitCo. Did I promise to do something pass-through?
  • [01:34:01] <mrpackethead> no..
  • [01:34:09] <mrpackethead> i thought you where Circitco.
  • [01:34:10] <mrpackethead> :-)
  • [01:34:20] <jkridner|work> I'm TI.
  • [01:34:24] <mrpackethead> hard to keep up
  • [01:34:25] <mrpackethead> :-)
  • [01:34:27] <mrpackethead> ha ha
  • [01:35:11] <mrpackethead> fromt he detal i have, i think we will be ok with these black boxes
  • [01:39:58] <mdp> I am circuitco. send me your order and check made out to cash
  • [01:41:18] <Russ> I'm cash, just send the check to me
  • [01:41:55] <mrpackethead> rodger. rodger
  • [01:42:43] <mrpackethead> I'm the "Catholic Asscoiation of Swiss Homemakers"
  • [01:43:00] <mrpackethead> you can make it out to C.A.S.H for short
  • [01:43:15] <mrpackethead> cheques! We dont' use them any longer
  • [01:43:27] <Russ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfDUkR3DOFw&t=40s
  • [01:43:28] <mrpackethead> we dont' have a personal cheque book now
  • [01:43:44] <mrpackethead> the business has one.
  • [01:44:04] <mrpackethead> i dont' remember signeing a cheque
  • [02:03:47] <mdp> I will take a wire...no worries
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  • [02:15:15] <ds2> just fedex me a few kugarands
  • [02:15:16] <ds2> :D
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  • [02:57:57] <mranostay> hi emeb_mac
  • [02:58:18] <emeb_mac> hola mranostay
  • [02:59:01] <mranostay> emeb_mac: FPGA!
  • [02:59:14] <emeb_mac> mranostay: RADMAN!
  • [02:59:39] <jkridner> get a room. ;-)
  • [03:00:39] <mrpackethead> just C programmer
  • [03:00:40] <mrpackethead> horrah.
  • [03:01:08] <mranostay> why does a MS Office update need me to close Chrome?
  • [03:01:49] <jkridner> the better to uninstall you with, my dear.
  • [03:02:28] <mranostay> someone has been drinking
  • [03:03:23] <jkridner> drunk on presentations. I gave 5 of them today with all the meetings, etc., my work day is just beginning. :(
  • [03:03:30] * mranostay looks at Portland apartment prices
  • [03:03:36] <mranostay> welcomes sanity
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  • [03:28:25] <mranostay> emeb_mac: F
  • [03:28:27] <mranostay> emeb_mac: P
  • [03:28:29] <mranostay> emeb_mac: G
  • [03:28:31] <mranostay> emeb_mac: A!
  • [03:29:05] * mranostay wonders if can get a collab invite now
  • [03:29:22] <mranostay> or just show up and minge
  • [03:30:03] <emeb_mac> mranostay: cheerleading tryouts were last week
  • [03:32:53] <mranostay> *mingle
  • [03:33:05] <mranostay> *\o/*
  • [03:33:08] <mranostay> too late?
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  • [04:05:01] <ka6sox> yawn
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  • [04:24:05] <mranostay> ka6sox: yarn!
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  • [05:07:56] <ka6sox> :)
  • [05:08:25] <ka6sox> mranostay, which way don't I want to drive GPIO3_17?
  • [05:11:14] <ds2> what's on GPIO3_17?
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  • [05:13:46] <Shadyman> Miss Daisy
  • [05:13:48] <Shadyman> that's what :/
  • [05:14:21] <ds2> get her bumped
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  • [05:24:09] <mranostay> ka6sox: look at the schematic
  • [05:24:24] <mranostay> GPIO3_7 goes out the same pin as GPIO0_7 on the header
  • [05:24:31] <mranostay> *3_17
  • [05:24:44] <mranostay> so you have to pick which you want to use :)
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  • [05:27:39] <koen> keep in mind that 0_7 is "special"
  • [05:27:51] <koen> iirc the same pin is some edma event
  • [05:30:12] <ka6sox> okay, let me see what we have left after removing all the conflicts..
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  • [05:43:01] <ka6sox> mranostay, is that fixed on the next?
  • [05:44:37] <sam3631> what is UTMI?
  • [05:44:46] <sam3631> in USB
  • [05:44:50] <sam3631> utmi mode?
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  • [06:21:58] <av500> anybody know a source of these binder sheets that I can shove strips of SMD reels inside?
  • [06:22:06] <av500> youknowhatimean
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  • [06:32:23] <hdevalence> Is the next beaglebone delayed, or are we just not being told anything about its specs?
  • [06:32:36] <av500> "they" dont want us to know
  • [06:32:45] <hdevalence> I'm a little confused since it's halfway through April
  • [06:33:01] <hdevalence> and there's not even a listing of what the price is
  • [06:33:24] <hdevalence> which ideally you would know two weeks before selling
  • [06:33:35] <av500> the price is a surprice :)
  • [06:34:11] <hdevalence> or the GPU
  • [06:34:26] <av500> GPU is the same
  • [06:34:37] <hdevalence> that's known?
  • [06:35:29] <av500> there are only a few things left unknown by now
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  • [07:16:49] <woglinde> gm
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  • [07:20:15] <BeagleGithub> [kernel] koenkooi pushed 2 new commits to 3.8: http://git.io/FCqHXQ
  • [07:20:15] <BeagleGithub> kernel/3.8 52425ce Koen Kooi: 3.8: copy of PM firmware if it exists...
  • [07:20:15] <BeagleGithub> kernel/3.8 d43ae3e Koen Kooi: 3.8: drop duplicate patch...
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  • [07:34:36] <panto> hello
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  • [07:43:41] <woglinde> hi panto
  • [07:44:03] <panto> hi woglinde
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  • [07:54:28] <vmayoral> hi there! good morning
  • [07:54:47] <vmayoral> i saw that the BeagleBone was selected for the GSOC
  • [07:54:56] <vmayoral> congratulations about that to the whole community
  • [07:55:20] <vmayoral> i'm myself a student and i've been thinking about something that I could do to contribute
  • [07:55:32] <vmayoral> it's not specifically software so i'd like to hear your thoughts
  • [07:56:15] <koen> have a look at the wiki with ideas
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  • [07:56:27] <koen> there are some mixed hw/sw things in there
  • [07:57:31] <woglinde> selected for GSOC and no student applies gains nothing ;)
  • [07:57:58] <vmayoral> BeagleBone is just great, but wouldn't it be greater to have the schematics and the PCB available to work with them and hack the board? I found a lot of requests in the community for the Altium Designer files
  • [07:58:19] <vmayoral> so i was wondering if i could suggest to do that myself
  • [07:58:45] <av500> ?
  • [07:58:55] <av500> schematics are available
  • [07:59:02] <vmayoral> sure
  • [07:59:05] <woglinde> av500 yeah I wondered too
  • [07:59:07] <vmayoral> but for OrCAD
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  • [07:59:19] <vmayoral> have you tried to import them to Altiuim
  • [07:59:21] <vmayoral> Altium?
  • [07:59:24] <vmayoral> it's really messy
  • [07:59:26] <av500> nope
  • [07:59:35] <vmayoral> the libraries, the footprints
  • [07:59:42] <vmayoral> it's not clear
  • [07:59:45] <av500> you want to make your own beagle?
  • [08:00:06] <av500> that is a tad of scope for GSoC
  • [08:00:28] <vmayoral> my suggestion is just to provide those tools to the community
  • [08:00:36] <vmayoral> i mean, i'm just wondering
  • [08:00:41] <vmayoral> i also saw a couple of nice ideas
  • [08:00:49] <av500> well, most people are happy to hack on the SW side
  • [08:00:52] <av500> and make stuff like capes
  • [08:01:07] <vmayoral> just wondering if this was a possibility
  • [08:01:12] <av500> I dont see a huge community on making beagle clones
  • [08:01:27] <av500> the files are "open" in the format the board was designed in
  • [08:01:33] <kroon> koen, hi. just checking if you have any ideas.. I bought a DVI-to-HDMI cable (btw, is this different than a HDMI-to-DVI cable ?), which I've used to connect my Beaglebone+DVI-D cape to my monitor at work, I don't pass any special kernel arguments, but I still don't a screen. Using latest OE-layers + meta-ti/meta-beagleboard. Any ideas how to troubleshoot it ?
  • [08:01:38] <av500> I thinks thats pretty good already
  • [08:01:47] <vmayoral> all right, i see
  • [08:02:01] <av500> feel free to convert them to Orcad
  • [08:02:05] <av500> but I dont see the point
  • [08:02:28] <av500> kroon: DVI to HDMI is the same as HDMI to DVI
  • [08:02:29] <vmayoral> development time and expansion of the hardware platform i think
  • [08:02:39] <av500> one can make capes
  • [08:02:44] <av500> most people go that way
  • [08:02:46] <kroon> av500, ok
  • [08:02:53] <av500> very few make their own beagle derivates
  • [08:03:02] <vmayoral> might be true
  • [08:03:13] <av500> and those that do do not come from the tinkerer corners
  • [08:03:36] <av500> its not like you can hand solder the parts
  • [08:05:44] <vmayoral> thanks for your comments av500 :), I've just been involved in a couple of hardware projects and we started off from the BeagleBone but we found a bit troblesome and time consuming
  • [08:06:06] <vmayoral> so i just thought some people might be interested on that, but it seems we're the least :)
  • [08:06:35] <av500> and you planned to have the hardware made?
  • [08:07:07] <koen> kroon: try setting dss debug in the kernel cmdline to see what's happening
  • [08:07:30] <vmayoral> i think so, yeap. Is that a problem?
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  • [08:09:33] <vmayoral> Regarding the ideas proposed at http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/Ideas#Students_looking_for_ideas
  • [08:09:50] <vmayoral> i saw that you slightly mention ROS
  • [08:10:24] <vmayoral> i'm interested in ROS and i'd love to contribute this way
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  • [08:10:29] <Rotti> hi!
  • [08:10:29] <vmayoral> I understand this is possible, right?
  • [08:10:40] <woglinde> hi rooti
  • [08:10:43] <woglinde> ups rotti
  • [08:10:51] <av500> fedex rotti
  • [08:11:08] <vmayoral> Good morning
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  • [08:12:11] <kroon> koen, ok, I added "dss debug" to kernel arguments. Could you have a quick look at the dmesg output if I uploaded it somewhere ?
  • [08:18:23] <woglinde> kroon where is your j?
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  • [08:20:29] <jkroon_> woglinde, forgot to update my nick at work :-)
  • [08:21:25] <KotH> JIHAD!
  • [08:21:49] <KotH> and before anyone asks: i have nothing to do with it.... and even if i had, i wouldnt tell you ;-)
  • [08:22:06] <jkroon_> koen, http://pastebin.com/nsQVGA52
  • [08:22:07] <koen> jkroon_: it's something like dss.debug=1, I forget the exact format
  • [08:22:20] <jkroon_> koen, ah.. ok
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  • [08:22:24] <vmayoral> One more question regarding the GSOC guys, i know how to do the qualification test but how about the "APPLICATION TEMPLATE"? Should i also upload it to the fork that i will create?
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  • [08:28:11] <jkroon_> ok, I dont have omapdss.ko loaded..
  • [08:28:21] <av500> vmayoral: ?
  • [08:28:22] <jkroon_> I have to module, but I cant modprobe it
  • [08:28:27] <jkroon_> s/to/the
  • [08:28:34] <av500> why not?
  • [08:28:48] <av500> jkroon_: what are you running? stock angstrom?
  • [08:28:59] <jkroon_> av500, no, custom distro...
  • [08:29:10] <av500> jkroon_: then, do it like angstrom does :)
  • [08:29:40] <av500> vmayoral: sorry, what do you mean?
  • [08:33:08] <jkroon_> "modprobe omapdss" yields "No such device". I can "modprobe reiserfs" for isntance
  • [08:33:22] <av500> well
  • [08:33:26] <av500> kernel config
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  • [08:35:14] <vmayoral> av500: here http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2013/beagle it displays the "APPLICATION TEMPLATE" which should be completed. My question is: where should i send this application?
  • [08:35:53] <vmayoral> av500: should i push it to the fork that i'll create for the qualification test (at the bottom of the page)?
  • [08:36:12] <woglinde> vmayoral subscribe to the beagle soc mailinglist
  • [08:36:32] <woglinde> if you are serious want to do somethinf
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  • [08:42:40] <vmayoral> woglinde: thanks for that, i'll do as you say
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  • [08:47:38] <jkroon_> koen, the reason for why I cant modprobe omapdss, could it be that the device tree file is not up2date ? I am using the 3.8.6 kernel from meta-beagleboard
  • [08:48:25] <koen> isn't it builtin?
  • [08:50:02] <jkroon_> koen, no its a module according to my /proc/config.gz
  • [08:50:32] <jkroon_> koen, at least I have "CONFIG_OMAP2_DSS=m" in there
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  • [08:52:45] <jkroon_> and I have the omapdss.ko file below /lib/modules/3.8.6/
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  • [09:22:39] <jkroon_> koen, im just wondering if an incorrect dtb-file could be the cause of why I cant modprobe omapdss, then I can start looking from there..
  • [09:23:29] <panto> modprobe should work (i.e. the module should load)
  • [09:23:47] <panto> whether the driver is probed relies on a DT device entry being present
  • [09:25:10] <jkroon_> panto, modprobe says "ERROR: could not insert 'omapdss': No such device"
  • [09:25:55] <panto> dmesg?
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  • [09:26:29] <jkroon_> panto, dmesg doesnt append anything after trying to modprobe it
  • [09:26:54] <jkroon_> I do have dss.debug=1 passed to the kernel
  • [09:26:59] <jkroon_> maybe that one is incorrect
  • [09:27:29] <panto> no
  • [09:27:51] <panto> try insmod'ing the .ko
  • [09:28:50] <jkroon_> same error message basically, "Error: could not insert module /lib/modules/3.8.6/kernel/drivers/video/omap2/dss/omapdss.ko: No such device"
  • [09:29:06] <jkroon_> I gave the full path to insmod
  • [09:30:18] <panto> it might be possible that the load fails, but I would expect a damn log message if it does
  • [09:30:38] <jkroon_> anything physical I have to do besides attaching the DVI-D cape to the beaglebone ?
  • [09:30:59] <jkroon_> I see the leds on the DVI-D cape flashing
  • [09:31:23] <koen> isnmod != modprobe
  • [09:31:39] <av500> both haz mod
  • [09:31:48] <av500> but no cyanogen
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  • [09:38:02] <jkroon_> maybe I have just fucked up the DVI-D cape :-/
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  • [09:41:24] <jkroon_> the LCD7 cape works fine
  • [09:42:24] <panto> having no log message about the failure is bad form
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  • [09:43:07] <jkroon_> hmm do I also need "debug" besides "dss.debug=1" ?
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  • [09:45:07] <jkroon_> didnt help
  • [09:45:20] <jkroon_> "no APM support in kernel"
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  • [09:49:22] <jkroon_> I dont have "CONFIG_PANEL_TFP410" set in my kernel, yet the DVI-D cape has a chip that says "TFP410PAP" on it...
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  • [09:51:28] <jkroon_> any comments on that koen ? :-)
  • [09:52:08] <av500> jkroon_: why not use a known good kernel
  • [09:52:09] <av500> ?
  • [09:52:14] <av500> e.g. the angstrom one
  • [09:52:36] <jkroon_> av500, I thought meta-beagleboard was da shit for Beaglebone ?
  • [09:53:02] <av500> ah
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  • [09:55:36] <jkroon_> I mean, as far as I understand I need the meta-ti layer for getting the "beaglebone" machine, then meta-beagleboard provides more up2date kernels, thats how ive understood it
  • [09:55:52] <av500> yes
  • [09:56:11] <av500> in that case, blame koen
  • [09:56:19] <av500> and all the meta-people
  • [09:56:48] <koen> meta-beagleboard builds a 3.2 kernel over here
  • [09:56:52] <jkroon_> no i like koen but im a newbie and hes the expert so i must poke him, very gently
  • [09:56:56] <koen> since 3.8 is *$(@$*(@ broken
  • [09:57:28] <jkroon_> koen, really ? I havent specified any preferred kernel and OE chooses 3.8.6 from meta-beagleboard...
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  • [09:57:35] <ogra_> seems to work in ubuntu ... whats wrong with it ?
  • [09:57:45] <ogra_> (at least for XM)
  • [09:59:08] <jkroon_> koen, if 3.8 is broken... maybe i should skip meta-beagleboard for now ?
  • [10:00:43] <jkroon_> or is 3.7 better ?
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  • [10:02:20] <koen> ogra_: including all the expansion boards?
  • [10:02:53] <ogra_> no, i dont think so, just the XM (its the multiplatform kernel with dtb)
  • [10:02:54] <koen> jkroon_: keep your meta-beagle up to date
  • [10:03:10] <koen> there's no xM dtb in 3.8
  • [10:03:19] <ogra_> at least our kernel team only has XMs to test it
  • [10:03:20] <koen> that was introduced in 3.9
  • [10:03:27] <ogra_> likely backported then
  • [10:03:45] <ogra_> they tend to do such stuff :)
  • [10:03:48] <koen> so you agree that 3.8 is broken unless you backport a ton of shit
  • [10:04:04] <mru> everything later than 2.6.32 is broken
  • [10:04:19] <ogra_> i dont actually know :) i know ubuntu has a multiplatfoem 3.8 kernel that works on 4 arm arches
  • [10:04:30] <ogra_> one of them being XM
  • [10:04:53] * ogra_ doesnt care much about kernel dev nowadays ...
  • [10:05:06] <ogra_> as long as "they" give me something that works
  • [10:05:15] <jkroon_> koen, the SW im running on the beaglebone now, i used latest from git as of yesterday, kernel 3.8.6. You mean things have improved in 3.8.7 ?
  • [10:05:52] <koen> yes, beagleboard was removed from 3.8.7 recipe
  • [10:07:24] <av500> lol
  • [10:07:26] <jkroon_> koen, im on a beaglebone now
  • [10:07:56] <koen> there's no omapdss in beaglebone
  • [10:08:09] <av500> one can always port it
  • [10:08:11] <koen> only ti-lcdc
  • [10:08:19] <koen> dmesg | grep -i cape
  • [10:08:27] <koen> that will show which capes were detected
  • [10:08:55] <jkroon_> koen, slot #0: 'BeagleBone DVI-D CAPE,00A0,Beagleboardtoys,BB-BONE-DVID-01'
  • [10:09:22] <jkroon_> and the DVI-D cape has a TFP410PAP chip on it, but TFP410 is not set in the kernel configuration
  • [10:09:43] <koen> right
  • [10:09:57] <koen> since that's a TFP driver or DSS2, not lcdc
  • [10:10:46] <jkroon_> ok..
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  • [10:12:29] <jkroon_> So I do have "CONFIG_DRM_TILCDC" built-in
  • [10:13:32] <jkroon_> tilcdc 4830e000.fb: No power control GPIO
  • [10:13:51] <jkroon_> tilcdc 4830e000.fb: No connectors reported connected with modes
  • [10:14:14] <jkroon_> [drm] Initialized tilcdc 1.0.0 20121205 on minor 0
  • [10:14:38] <jkroon_> Thats all the interesting things in dmesg I could find related to the tilcdc
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  • [10:23:17] <jkroon_> so maybe I need to enable power management in the kernel or something
  • [10:23:40] <jkroon_> or in general in my OE-setup..
  • [10:23:43] <woglinde> maybee maybee not
  • [10:23:45] <woglinde> find out
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  • [10:24:45] <jkroon_> im just thinking out loud in the hopes that someone will chime in, my apoligies if im pestering the channel with newbie questions
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  • [10:25:54] <koen> what does 'fbset' say?
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  • [11:35:40] <jkroon_> firealarm @ work
  • [11:35:42] <jkroon_> koen, http://pastebin.com/YDYfmpjs
  • [11:35:46] <jkroon_> koen, fbset output
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  • [11:42:35] <koen> looks like it didn't detect a monitor
  • [11:44:47] <jkroon_> i've tried with my monitor at work, using a HDMI-to-DVI cable, and also at home with my Sony TV, using a HDMI-to-HDMI-cable
  • [11:45:42] <jkroon_> koen, is it the lacking timing values that makese you think it didnt detect a monitor ?
  • [11:46:29] <jkroon_> I guess shouldnt be hotplugging in and out the cable
  • [11:46:58] <koen> it needs to be present at boot with the current driver
  • [11:47:13] <koen> hopefully darren will have time to add hotplug support
  • [11:48:52] <proesel> Hello, I try to get some data form a GPS ( https://www.sparkfun.com/products/8975 ) via UART. I'm a bit confused about the pin mux. On my BB xM ther is on pin 6 UART2_TX | GPIO146 and on pin 8 UART2_RX | GPIO143. But if I look at /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux cat uart2_rx there is gpio_147 ? At the datasheet it should be gpio 143.
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  • [12:01:35] <jkroon_> koen, so.. my best option for now is to try with another monitor ?
  • [12:02:34] <jkroon_> DIP-switches are only used to uniquely identify the capes I guess, so they shouldnt matter since I'm only using the DVI-D cape
  • [12:11:07] <koen> right
  • [12:12:38] <av500> left
  • [12:13:17] <jkroon_> jihad!
  • [12:14:13] <KotH> hey!
  • [12:14:20] <KotH> no JIHAD! without me!
  • [12:14:39] <av500> KotH: you cannot be everywhere
  • [12:14:49] <KotH> av500: das b?se ist immer und ?berall!
  • [12:14:57] <KotH> </eav>
  • [12:16:18] <av500> EAV ftw
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  • [12:20:36] <jkroon_> cat "/sys/devices/ocp.2/4830e000.fb/drm/card0/card0-DVI-D-1/enabled" yields "disabled"
  • [12:22:43] <proesel> does anybody have a "how to use UART" tutorial for me?v
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  • [12:29:27] <jkroon_> cat:ing the "edid" file deep under /proc actually mentions the monitor I have connected
  • [12:29:38] <jkroon_> under /sys, i mean
  • [12:29:39] <av500> good
  • [12:30:04] <koen> after a reboot still 1024x768?
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  • [12:31:23] <jkroon_> I have the DVI cape connected to the same monitor as I have my laptop connected to. Laptop uses the VGA port, DVI cape the DVI-D port, but yes, still 1024x768 in fbset after a reboot
  • [12:33:12] <jkroon_> power/runtime_status says suspended
  • [12:34:48] <jkroon_> after 'echo "on" > control' is says "active", but still no display :-(
  • [12:35:51] <KotH> proesel: google doesnt turn up anything?
  • [12:36:13] <av500> KotH: these days, rarely
  • [12:36:22] <KotH> av500: did you break it?
  • [12:36:43] <av500> it dyed for our things
  • [12:36:58] <ogra_> dyed ?
  • [12:37:01] <ogra_> teal ?
  • [12:37:05] <ogra_> or orange ?
  • [12:37:21] <KotH> beige
  • [12:37:27] <jkroon_> /sys/devices/../graphics/fb0/modes says "U:1024x768p-0"
  • [12:37:58] <proesel> KotH: a lot. I tried something but I guess I do something wrong. also the inverted pins make me doubtful
  • [12:38:27] <av500> there are schematics
  • [12:39:34] <KotH> av500: you're still sulking for google reader?
  • [12:39:44] <av500> not yet
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  • [12:41:15] <KotH> did you see the link i gave you yesterday, with the g-reader alternatives?
  • [12:41:44] <KotH> proesel: if in doubt, connect a logic analyzer to the board
  • [12:41:48] <av500> KotH: pls regive
  • [12:41:52] <KotH> proesel: and there is the schematic too
  • [12:42:15] <KotH> 19:37 < KotH> av500: http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Replacing-Google-Reader-1829086.html
  • [12:43:54] <av500> KotH: yeah, mostly known
  • [12:44:08] <av500> only few qualily since most have no android app
  • [12:44:22] <KotH> :-/
  • [12:44:42] <av500> also most dont sync across devices
  • [12:45:18] <KotH> how about taking one of the oss ones and extend it until it fits your needs
  • [12:45:20] <KotH> ?
  • [12:45:25] <KotH> too much work?
  • [12:45:29] <av500> :eff:
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  • [12:45:37] <KotH> you sound like elenril
  • [12:45:38] <KotH> ;)
  • [12:45:50] <av500> I learn from the best
  • [12:46:13] <KotH> hmm.. i'd rather say you are one of his idols :)
  • [12:46:23] * ogra_ just uses gReader ... works fine and they are moving their backend to something sane
  • [12:46:40] <mru> theoldreader seems to work ok
  • [12:47:39] <mru> the interface is a bit cluttered compared to google but that can probably be fixed with some css overrides
  • [12:47:50] <av500> android app it has?
  • [12:48:02] <ogra_> also flipboard seems to be the new shiny ...
  • [12:48:08] <av500> meh
  • [12:48:11] <av500> I dont need shiny
  • [12:48:12] <jkroon_> should I be passing initialization of the video framebuffer to the kernel or something ?
  • [12:50:18] <mru> av500: web page works reasonably in mobile browsers
  • [12:51:19] <mru> I read something about an app being in the works
  • [12:51:27] <mru> but we all know how reliable such statements are
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  • [12:55:26] <av500> mru: web page does not help for offline
  • [12:55:59] <woglinde> cache it
  • [12:56:07] <bradfa> Why not pay? https://feedbin.me/
  • [12:56:16] <tasslehoff> Press?
  • [12:56:28] <bradfa> I know, I know...
  • [12:56:38] <av500> bradfa: pay is not the issue
  • [12:56:53] <bradfa> av500, feedbin was not listed in H article
  • [12:56:59] <bradfa> most of the ones listed in H article were "free"
  • [12:57:16] <bradfa> $2 / mo is a bit steep, $1 / mo is more my style, but we'll see
  • [12:58:25] <av500> woglinde: how do I cache "the internet"?
  • [12:58:54] <panto> you'll need a landfill and a whole bunch of dump trucks
  • [13:03:39] <jkroon_> testing with my colleagues monitor, the DVI-complained even complained that it couldnt load some kind of firmware. i dont see that message when using my own monitor
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  • [13:07:14] * KotH turns on the cold water
  • [13:07:24] <KotH> .o0(modulo grammar)
  • [13:07:43] <av500> KotH: you mean spelling, it's gold water
  • [13:07:51] <KotH> hehe
  • [13:08:05] <KotH> i wouldnt waste our precious gold on someone like jkroon_
  • [13:08:24] <jkridner|work> koen, panto: would joining the call help you guys chat about ways to fix the tester?
  • [13:08:41] <panto> the tester should be fixed
  • [13:09:17] <panto> and a little bit of restraint when proclaiming it doesn't work would be prudent
  • [13:09:41] * panto points that he hasn't seen any logs claiming tester failures today
  • [13:09:47] <av500> panto: "it does not work" is the fastest thing to say
  • [13:11:01] <panto> jkridner|work, ok, pm me the call#?
  • [13:11:40] <ka6sox> bradfa, where is the H+ article?
  • [13:11:57] <jkridner|work> lots of ways to define both "it works" and "it doesn't work"
  • [13:12:34] <panto> last I heard was that 'it kept crashing'
  • [13:12:50] <panto> but without ever seeing a log of said crashes
  • [13:13:10] <ynezz> feedly is funny "Google...shutting down Reader....Nomandy is feedly clone of the Google Reader API running on Google App Engine"
  • [13:13:23] <av500> teh irony
  • [13:13:23] <ynezz> what if google shuts down App Engine next spring? :p
  • [13:13:52] <ynezz> Appmandy is Google App Engine clone...
  • [13:14:20] <av500> ynezz: maybe Google is subtly trying to educate people that they "run the internet"
  • [13:14:27] <av500> maybe they are sick of it....
  • [13:15:24] <ynezz> internet only?
  • [13:15:25] <av500> imagine M$ would say they are shutting down office
  • [13:15:32] <ynezz> imagine them closing Android...
  • [13:15:37] <av500> users would rejoice and say "fine, we can stop relearning the UI"
  • [13:15:40] <mbussolotto_> Hello everybody. I would like to get some feedback on a project idea for gsoc. In particular I like to have more information about the integration with Jack audio server, and if could be interesting to study in deep this topi to improve the performance. Thanks you all
  • [13:16:09] <jkroon_> KotH, sorry to hear that
  • [13:16:42] <av500> jkroon_: and if you ran stock Angstrom and compared?
  • [13:16:47] <ynezz> av500: who cares about Office, Windows is already dead platform :) (as read on Reader)
  • [13:17:41] <jkroon_> av500, yeah, i will try that when I get home. dont have the tools here, just wanted to try the beaglebone with my monitor at work
  • [13:18:00] <av500> its just a 2nd sd card
  • [13:18:30] <KotH> av500: did you ever have the situation that reading P1IN on a msp430 returned 0xff, even though you measure 0 on some of the pins?
  • [13:18:31] <jkroon_> av500, yeah but my work laptop doesnt have a proper sd-card reader :-(
  • [13:18:42] <ka6sox> mbussolotto_, that sounds interesting.
  • [13:18:54] * av500 knows jack about jack
  • [13:19:02] <av500> KotH: hmm, no
  • [13:19:08] <koen> jkridner|work: you're awefully quiet on the gsoc list
  • [13:19:29] <jkridner|work> I'll try to be more active today. lots of distractions.
  • [13:19:41] <jkridner|work> you're awfully quiet on the weekly call. :)
  • [13:19:47] <koen> I'm on mute
  • [13:19:51] <av500> jkridner|work: should we have a coordination meeting/hangout/whatever?
  • [13:20:01] <av500> coz students are streaming in
  • [13:20:06] <ka6sox> jkridner|work, do you want the GSOC discussed here or in -gsoc>
  • [13:20:09] <jkridner|work> makes sense. I can schedule a hangout for Thursday.
  • [13:20:09] <av500> interested students*
  • [13:20:14] <ynezz> KotH: DJ Electrostatic? :)
  • [13:20:20] <jkridner|work> or anyone else can schedule one and I can endorse it.
  • [13:20:45] <jkridner|work> ka6sox: I'm fine with discussing in both places....
  • [13:20:50] <ka6sox> kk
  • [13:20:59] <jkridner|work> if the discussion goes long, it is fine to take it over to #beagle-gsoc
  • [13:21:07] <ka6sox> mbussolotto_, what is your idea?
  • [13:21:11] <jkridner|work> students will come *here* first.
  • [13:21:16] <ka6sox> good
  • [13:21:28] <jkridner|work> we aren't advertising #beagle-gsoc
  • [13:21:39] <ka6sox> good idea
  • [13:21:40] <jkridner|work> it just gives us a place to fork long discussions over to.
  • [13:21:47] <KotH> ynezz: i hope not...
  • [13:22:32] <ka6sox> mbussolotto_, I'd like to hear your ideas about Jack
  • [13:25:24] <mbussolotto_> ka6sox: i was thinking to reduce the load of cpu for music application, trying to implement better alghoritm and/or using dsp
  • [13:25:46] <ka6sox> on which platform?
  • [13:26:12] <mru> jack is all about low latency
  • [13:26:25] * ka6sox likes low latency...
  • [13:27:00] <mbussolotto_> ka6sox: beagleboard with OMAP3530
  • [13:27:23] <ka6sox> mbussolotto_, got it...
  • [13:27:38] <ka6sox> mbussolotto_, are you on the gsoc Mailing List
  • [13:28:05] <mru> so if you want to use the dsp for jack stuff, you need to get the dsp talking directly to the sound hw
  • [13:28:17] <mru> bouncing through the arm core will add too much latency
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  • [13:29:37] <ka6sox> okay I must go now...work calls
  • [13:29:43] <av500> implement old Soundblaster API on the DSP :)
  • [13:29:48] <ka6sox> mbussolotto_, please email the list...thanks
  • [13:29:53] <mbussolotto_> ka6sox: still no. I'm just enrolling
  • [13:30:14] <mru> ka6sox: what's "work"?
  • [13:31:24] <av500> mru: procrastination with pants
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  • [13:35:37] <hatguy_> looking for comments: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/beagleboard-gsoc/rVbu85mG-yw/U8eVXsDAY3YJ
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  • [13:36:28] <av500> hatguy_: "dumped"?
  • [13:36:46] <av500> ah
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  • [13:39:28] <hatguy_> transferred after cross compilation? dunno the exact word
  • [13:41:02] <av500> yes
  • [13:41:05] <av500> I understand
  • [13:41:11] <av500> from the ardiuno IDE
  • [13:41:22] <av500> well, there is a serial connection, that can copy the file over and run it
  • [13:41:32] <av500> basically a new backend
  • [13:42:46] <av500> like the original arduino has it's bootloader in flash
  • [13:42:52] <av500> you would have the same on the beagle
  • [13:43:03] <av500> sdcard or emmc is the same here
  • [13:43:44] <av500> hatguy_: why would you implement a UI?
  • [13:43:50] <av500> er, IDE
  • [13:43:57] <av500> why not reuse the arduino one?
  • [13:44:33] <hatguy_> the front end would be same...the backend could have major changes
  • [13:45:47] <hatguy_> and does the black beaglebone have an option to switch between on-board flash and sd?
  • [13:46:15] <jkridner|work> hatguy_: yes.
  • [13:47:04] <av500> sure
  • [13:47:09] <av500> its all SW
  • [13:47:24] <av500> and it has SD, so you can treat it as white if you want
  • [13:47:29] <av500> not a concern
  • [13:48:09] <av500> jkridner|work: now, why am I thinking this arduino stuff should run alongside Linux
  • [13:48:16] <av500> maybe in node.js :)
  • [13:48:33] <jkridner|work> I think both approaches are valid.
  • [13:48:44] <jkridner|work> along side and instead of.
  • [13:48:48] <av500> yes
  • [13:48:55] <jkridner|work> I'm most interested in the along side as well.
  • [13:48:56] <hatguy_> me and aleks did discuss this quite a bit yesterday
  • [13:49:19] <hatguy_> we came to the same conclusion...both could be done
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  • [13:50:56] <koen> jkridner|work: I meant to ask about things like DT bindings for wl12xx, 3d, etc
  • [13:51:12] <koen> jkridner|work: those need to go on the list as well, otherwise people will act suprised when we ask about it later
  • [13:51:21] <jkridner|work> right! I'm looking at DT bindings for wl12xx this week some...
  • [13:51:25] <Aleks> av500, that's my crack at the idea, run the arduino stuff concurently with other software running on Beagle{board,bone}
  • [13:51:31] <jkridner|work> really interferes with the Black eMMC signals...
  • [13:51:50] <Aleks> for the greater good :)
  • [13:51:51] <jkridner|work> I'd be happy to test anything that anyone has on the wifi cape DT bindings.
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  • [13:52:20] <jkridner|work> not sure what the point would be of 3D bindings given the state of the DRM driver. :(
  • [13:52:52] <av500> we need 3D for wobbly windows
  • [13:53:19] <jkridner|work> koen: you just wanting those to show in the minutes?
  • [13:53:26] <koen> jkridner|work: well, drm is already supported on omap3
  • [13:53:32] <koen> jkridner|work: yes, "for the record"
  • [13:53:34] <jkridner|work> with SGX?
  • [13:53:45] <koen> yes, sgx
  • [13:54:30] <koen> it's mostly adapting ti335x to look like omap3/omap4 and then add some buffer thing (ask rob clark) to the userspace libs
  • [13:54:53] <koen> rob said it isn't a lot of work, but some with access to the sources needs to do it
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  • [14:02:15] <bobone> guys I just connected my bone to my pc but led0 and led1 don't work
  • [14:02:34] <av500> sdcard inside?
  • [14:02:40] <av500> with the correct content?
  • [14:02:53] <bobone> the sdcard is inside..
  • [14:03:06] <bobone> and the content should be correct (just checked on my pc)
  • [14:03:27] <av500> WTF?
  • [14:03:33] <av500> LM4 is now called Tivo?
  • [14:04:00] <KotH> Timo?
  • [14:04:07] <av500> Thilo
  • [14:05:06] <bobone> any idea?
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  • [14:06:01] <KotH> FONClBrISCH?
  • [14:06:41] <KotH> av500: maybe they want to make clear it's not luminary that designed those, but ti? :)
  • [14:06:57] <av500> http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/04/16/texas-instruments-announces-tiva-cortex-m4-mcus-and-12-99-launchpad-evaluation-kit/
  • [14:09:19] <KotH> av500: looks like they renamed the whole stellaris family...
  • [14:09:28] <KotH> av500: the lm3's aren't listed on the ti page anymore
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  • [14:10:32] <av500> KotH: did they have lm3?
  • [14:10:41] <KotH> tons of them
  • [14:11:34] <av500> http://e2e.ti.com/support/microcontrollers/stellaris_arm/f/471/p/225466/793721.aspx
  • [14:12:44] <av500> wow, epic thread
  • [14:13:54] <KotH> yeah..
  • [14:14:13] <av500> oh, TI still has ARM9
  • [14:14:20] <av500> AM1x
  • [14:14:23] <KotH> but cutting off the lm3s just 2 years after aquiring luminary isnt like ti
  • [14:14:43] <KotH> on the other hand, the lm3s seemed to have tons of silicon bugs that could not be solved
  • [14:14:56] <av500> these days even TI is not like TI
  • [14:15:21] <KotH> there are many TIs </mdp>
  • [14:16:03] <mdp> +1
  • [14:16:23] <av500> well, they are getting fewer over time
  • [14:16:30] <av500> mobile phone TI is gone
  • [14:17:24] <KotH> meh.. fucking msp430 is behaving eratic
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  • [14:19:12] <woglinde> koth kick it
  • [14:19:33] <KotH> yeah..
  • [14:19:45] <KotH> but it'll be at least a day until i get a replacement board
  • [14:20:28] <av500> zap it
  • [14:21:09] <KotH> i doubt that caning will get the msp to behave
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  • [14:23:40] <woglinde> koth use a bone instead og msp430
  • [14:23:52] <av500> or a PC
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  • [14:25:04] <KotH> woglinde: i would... if a bone would fit into 8x20mm hole and be able to run from two SR48 batteries for two years
  • [14:25:35] <woglinde> hm use a plutonium driven battery
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  • [14:26:47] <KotH> hm.. i'd like to see the face of the customers, when we'd tell him "we were able to build everything much earlier than anticipated... but the devices now contain plutonium and you have to handle them as nuclear weapons" :)
  • [14:27:42] <av500> KotH: a nuclear explosion should be able to make it fit your 8x20 hole
  • [14:27:50] <av500> and power it for a brief time
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  • [14:33:57] <av500> mdp: so Stellarisware is now Tivaware?
  • [14:34:20] <mdp> I can't keep up
  • [14:34:23] <mdp> what did I miss?
  • [14:34:49] <av500> http://newscenter.ti.com/2013-04-15-TI-introduces-new-Tiva-C-Series-ARM-Cortex-M4-microcontrollers-MCUs-for-connected-applications
  • [14:35:04] <av500> oh
  • [14:35:08] <av500> it is Tivaware
  • [14:35:18] <mdp> oh, rebranding
  • [14:35:22] <mdp> anything else to see here?
  • [14:35:37] <av500> no
  • [14:35:39] <KotH> lm3 is gone
  • [14:35:41] <mdp> it's like s/OMAP/Jacinto6/
  • [14:35:42] <av500> go back to sleep
  • [14:36:06] <mdp> KotH, premature EOL?
  • [14:36:12] <KotH> juup
  • [14:36:17] <av500> mdp: no
  • [14:36:25] <av500> its has been EOL since last year
  • [14:36:28] <mdp> you shoot a hobbled horse to put it out of its misery
  • [14:36:29] <av500> NRND
  • [14:36:35] <mdp> oh, then no problem
  • [14:36:52] * av500 waits for LM5
  • [14:37:00] <av500> LM42 and LM54
  • [14:37:01] <KotH> there wont be a lm5
  • [14:37:11] <KotH> it'll be a tm5 :)
  • [14:37:41] <dm8tbr> LM? as in LMAA?
  • [14:37:50] <KotH> juup
  • [14:38:05] <koen> LM8UU?
  • [14:38:18] * KotH throws a football out of the window and watches how it is passed around
  • [14:38:36] <mru> lmao?
  • [14:38:44] <KotH> koen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF5W-Z5o68E
  • [14:38:57] <KotH> a german classic :)
  • [14:39:29] <koen> pro sieben!
  • [14:40:23] <ogra_> jaja
  • [14:45:42] <panto> av500, just got the parts
  • [14:45:47] <panto> see, mail still works
  • [14:46:13] <woglinde> hm today is the 70th birthday of LSD
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  • [14:46:44] <av500> panto: great
  • [14:46:48] <panto> thanks
  • [14:46:52] <av500> np
  • [14:48:40] <KotH> panto: glitch in the matrix ;)
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  • [14:56:07] <bradfa> ka6sox, 19:37 < KotH> av500: http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Replacing-Google-Reader-1829086.html
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  • [16:19:18] <ZZ12> hello...
  • [16:19:40] <ZZ12> i want to do a project for image processing
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  • [16:19:49] <ZZ12> i need 15 fps perfomance
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  • [16:20:27] <ZZ12> can i achieve this frame rate in beagleboard xm?
  • [16:21:08] <dm8tbr> you'll only know if you try
  • [16:21:42] <ZZ12> that is the wrong..
  • [16:22:14] <dm8tbr> what is wrong?
  • [16:23:11] <ZZ12> i don??t want try.
  • [16:23:23] <mdp> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/30
  • [16:23:28] <dm8tbr> then you won't know
  • [16:24:00] <Rotti> when exporting gpios from a cape to sysfs, is it possible to give the resulting dirs 'nicer' names than "gpio39"?
  • [16:24:30] <av500> ZZ12: 15 fps doing what?
  • [16:24:49] <panto> Rotti, if you export gpios via the gpiolib and cating to /sys/class/gpio/export no
  • [16:24:54] <mdp> ZZ12: yes
  • [16:25:10] * mdp closes the ticket and updates the big board
  • [16:25:28] <dm8tbr> :)
  • [16:25:36] <panto> if you write you own driver that exports gpios you're free to go wild
  • [16:25:40] <panto> see bone-geiger
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  • [16:25:49] <ZZ12> 15 fps doing sigma background substraction
  • [16:26:00] <mdp> panto, there's some videos on that, "gpios gone wild"
  • [16:26:03] <mdp> NSFW
  • [16:26:05] <Rotti> panto: okay, i think it's fine with gpio39 ;)
  • [16:26:11] <panto> heh
  • [16:26:23] <koen> can DT help here?
  • [16:27:47] <Rotti> in DT i defined it as gpio-end-a = <&gpio2....
  • [16:30:45] <panto> err, there has to be a driver to do the exporting
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  • [16:31:08] * mranostay waves
  • [16:31:22] <mranostay> from Collab
  • [16:31:36] * panto waves
  • [16:31:38] <panto> from home
  • [16:32:17] <Rotti> panto: yep, the driver is there (gpio_request_one(...GPIOF_IN | GPIOD_EXPORT_DIR_FIXED...)
  • [16:33:19] <panto> well, in that case the name will be fixed :)
  • [16:35:16] <Rotti> it's okay for now... as long as it works ;)
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  • [16:37:43] <mranostay> Russ: you here?
  • [16:37:46] <Rotti> but there's still another question... i created 2 entries for setting some pwm stuff (saw the pwm commit the day before yesterday(?) too late...) i haven't got a eeprom yet so i'm still using echo cape-mycape > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.7/slots which results in a directory /sys/devices/ocp.2/cape-mycape or similar... will it always be in ocp.2?
  • [16:38:12] <Rotti> and at the end, there's .9... is this fixed, too?
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  • [16:43:10] <panto> Rotti, no, that's dynamic
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  • [16:45:27] <Rotti> okay, so not a good idea to put it in the code...
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  • [16:47:50] <panto> nope
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  • [16:49:04] <Rotti> what would be the best way to find the files? use `find`?
  • [16:49:31] <mdp> mranostay, tough to get an invite, eh? ;)
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  • [16:50:08] <panto> is that C? or a different language?
  • [16:50:36] <panto> what I'd do is put that path in a configuration file
  • [16:50:59] <panto> every platform will have a stable numbering
  • [16:51:04] <Rotti> aah, okay
  • [16:51:14] <panto> or you could implement your own readdir parsing for ocp*
  • [16:51:46] <panto> from shell echo foo >/sys/devices/ocp*/bar/baz would work
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  • [16:53:45] <Rotti> okay, this is easy... ls -d /sys/devices/ocp*/cape-name*/ give me the string for the cfg variable :)
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  • [16:59:09] <Rotti> thanks for your help, again! gotta go home now...
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  • [17:40:50] <jimmy15> does anybody knows when I can find Frans Meulenbroeks aka eFfeM here?
  • [17:44:49] <woglinde> hm
  • [17:44:56] <woglinde> seldom in the las time
  • [17:45:00] <woglinde> write him an email
  • [17:45:29] <Crofton> looks like he is not on irc
  • [17:47:32] <jimmy15> i can't find his email
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  • [18:03:06] <jimmy15> I have a question. Is it compulsory to propose an idea that is cost effective?
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  • [18:03:34] <Thiago_> Hi
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  • [18:03:57] <Guest39529> Hi
  • [18:04:05] <jimmy15> I mean the idea have to be keeping in mind a large consumer market?
  • [18:04:44] <Guest39529> Anyone knows a good capacitive display to use with beaglebone?
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  • [18:05:06] <jkridner> I've used the one from that company in Malaysia
  • [18:05:56] <jkridner> can't bring it to memory
  • [18:06:01] <jkridner> Chalkboard Electronics
  • [18:06:04] <Guest39529> I saw one of the Chalkboard Electronics, but I want one display of around 7"
  • [18:06:09] <jkridner> that's the one. 10" capacitive multitouch.
  • [18:06:12] <jkridner> k.
  • [18:06:34] <jkridner> Not sure if CCo/beagleboardtoys is coming out with capacitive or not.
  • [18:07:02] <ka6sox-farfarawa> morning
  • [18:07:43] <prpplague> jkridner: trying to finish up wiring you prototype now
  • [18:07:49] <prpplague> jkridner: should be able to ship out today
  • [18:07:55] <prpplague> jkridner: fedex overnight
  • [18:08:06] <prpplague> jkridner: please email me the address you want it sent to
  • [18:08:10] <jkridner> don't you have final boards now?
  • [18:08:12] <jkridner> k.
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  • [18:09:40] <Crofton> mranostay, who let you into collab?
  • [18:09:55] <Guest39529> I'm afraid I'm just finding resistive displays with 7"
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  • [18:28:22] <koen> jkridner: there's a 7" with cap touch on my desk, but the atmel-mxt driver is a pain
  • [18:28:30] <koen> jkridner: (or am335x irq gpios in DT)
  • [18:32:58] <jkroon_> koen, will the "dvimode=hd720" syntax work for "Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.05-beaglebone-2012.11.22", when connecting to a TV ? just checking
  • [18:33:24] <koen> no
  • [18:33:31] <koen> that has a hardcoded resolution
  • [18:33:39] <koen> the v2012.12 does EDID detect
  • [18:33:55] <koen> only beagleboard supports the dvimode thing, since it's a dss2 parameter
  • [18:34:04] <jkroon_> ah
  • [18:34:30] <jkroon_> is there a more recent Angstrom-for-beaglebone brewing ?
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  • [18:37:55] <koen> http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/beaglebone/Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.12-beaglebone-2013.04.13.img.xz
  • [18:38:04] <jkridner> thanks koen
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  • [18:38:49] <koen> jkridner: hence the 50-odd patches for the mxt in the 3.8 kernel :)
  • [18:39:02] <koen> I need to attach the scope or the LA to the interupt pin
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  • [18:40:23] <jkroon_> koen, thanks
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  • [19:05:55] <panto> g'night all
  • [19:05:57] <panto> cya tomorrow
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  • [19:17:33] <jkridner|work> hmmm.... http://www.eyeballos.com/
  • [19:21:12] <keesj> "Hardware hackers that don't want to waste time on the software side." great!
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  • [19:22:01] <keesj> jkridner|work: no good?
  • [19:22:32] <jkridner> 6 month free cloud service. :-/
  • [19:22:33] <keesj> (the pic shows an arduino btw)
  • [19:25:40] <keesj> that's how google feels to me nowerdays. I fell like they can "sorry we have to let you go" you any moment
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  • [20:16:41] <mranostay> Crofton: i am suppose to have an invite? :)
  • [20:17:26] <mdp> mranostay, did you wear your suit so you look like one of "those people" at collab?
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  • [20:22:20] <mru> mdp: it's easy enough to just walk in at collab
  • [20:23:25] <mdp> but can he pass himself off as a suit there..that's what a master troll should be able to do
  • [20:23:55] <mdp> troll some sw people he doesn't know
  • [20:23:59] <mdp> post us some recordings
  • [20:24:11] <mdp> let us live though his accomplishments
  • [20:29:29] <mru> mdp: I did it
  • [20:29:38] <mru> no need to play suit
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  • [20:42:30] <mranostay> jmasters is wearing a suit for some reason
  • [20:44:50] <woglinde> money
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  • [21:08:57] <varun2902> hi
  • [21:09:03] <mranostay> oh boi
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  • [21:09:25] <varun2902> how r u ?
  • [21:09:54] <varun2902> Node.js ?? Anyone ?
  • [21:09:58] <mranostay> is this a aol chatroom?
  • [21:10:43] <prpplague> bueller
  • [21:10:45] <prpplague> bueller
  • [21:10:46] <prpplague> bueller
  • [21:10:48] <varun2902> Node.js ??
  • [21:12:03] <mranostay> asl? :P
  • [21:12:42] <varun2902> mranostay : It's not an aol chatroom :D
  • [21:13:43] <Russ> varun2902, node.js
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  • [21:14:52] <varun2902> Yeah !
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  • [21:15:47] <Russ> glad I was able to help
  • [21:15:58] <prpplague> hehe
  • [21:16:13] <prpplague> bueller
  • [21:16:14] <prpplague> bueller
  • [21:16:15] <prpplague> bueller
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  • [21:19:45] <wmat> somebody ban this plague person :)
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  • [21:21:19] <prpplague> hehe
  • [21:23:03] * mranostay stabs prpplague repeatly
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  • [21:43:30] <mranostay> howdy mr Crofton-ster
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  • [21:47:41] <mdp> mranostay, it's the new jcm..it's ok
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  • [21:47:49] <mdp> mru, I expect nothing less from you
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  • [22:45:29] <ka6sox> jkridner, parts arrived, design is underway...Thanks!
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  • [23:18:18] <Russ> ds2, trying to make an anonymous purchase/
  • [23:18:23] <Russ> ?
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  • [23:18:35] <ds2> no
  • [23:18:42] <ds2> trying to avoid middle man
  • [23:19:30] <Russ> large order?
  • [23:20:04] <ds2> no
  • [23:20:21] <ds2> I have lost enough money dealing with paypal. so that's out
  • [23:20:34] <ds2> don't need for google to aggregate more data so they are out.
  • [23:22:39] <Russ> do you need a google account for google checkout?
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  • [23:23:30] <ds2> want to try some ideas out on 2L boards
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  • [23:37:31] <ka6sox> ds2, oshpark
  • [23:38:42] <ds2> ka6sox: don't think they have a palatable payment form
  • [23:39:20] <ka6sox> I see
  • [23:40:30] <emeb> ds2: what's the problem w/ PP?
  • [23:41:48] <ds2> they eat and lock up money
  • [23:42:25] <ds2> probally going to give batchpcb a try
  • [23:42:37] <emeb> batchpcb is good.
  • [23:42:55] <emeb> a bit more expensive than OSHpark, with coarser design rules.
  • [23:43:27] <emeb> OSHpark does 6/6, BatchPCB does 8/8 IIRC
  • [23:43:53] <ds2> yes, I notice that
  • [23:45:07] <emeb> OSHpark costs effectively $1.67/sq in, BatchPCB is $2.50/sq in
  • [23:45:37] <ds2> yes. that extra cost is a peace of mind cost
  • [23:46:44] <emeb> I've done more designs on BatchPCB than OSHpark, and I've had a few bad boards from BatchPCB, none from OSHpark (yet).
  • [23:46:55] <ds2> Hmmmm
  • [23:47:52] <emeb> Defects like damaged traces and shorts due to metal whiskers under the solder mask.
  • [23:48:05] <Russ> and the oshpark ENIG is always so purty
  • [23:48:19] <emeb> yeah - purple/gold is unusual.
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