• [00:02:09] <mrpackethead> easter trills
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  • [01:09:15] <angs> I installed the ubuntu image from http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu (uname -a > Linux arm 3.7.10-x10 #1 SMP Thu Mar 28 13:45:57 UTC 2013 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux). I enabled buddy=spidev on uEnv.txt and spidev4.0 is enabled on /dev. But https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/spi/spidev_test.c code outputs only FF when I execute it. Is it a wrong command to run? Why spidev does not work?
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  • [02:23:43] <ka6sox-away> angs, these questions are best asked in #ubuntu-arm
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  • [02:25:14] <angs> ka6sox-away: since I use http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu, they say it is not the official ubuntu files, therefore they don't support it. Their ubuntu image is too old (3.2)
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  • [02:26:38] <ka6sox-away> angs, not many people here use ubuntu...on beagle..we use a whole range of things from Andoid to webOS
  • [02:27:20] <ka6sox-away> so specific Ubuntu issues may or may *not* be something that can be solved by people here...
  • [02:29:21] <angs> jkridner told me that that rcn's image is better supported here. I am trying my chance to find someone who uses ubuntu and knows SPI
  • [02:29:53] <ka6sox-away> angs, then you need to use the mailing list and not IRC as I rarely see RCN here.
  • [02:30:25] <ka6sox-away> and patience also helps.
  • [02:31:14] <angs> right, thank you for the hints
  • [02:32:08] <ka6sox-away> you are welcome...
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  • [02:33:06] <ka6sox-away> even though there are 140 people, bots and Trolls here doesn't mean we are all standing around waiting for questions... :)
  • [02:35:47] <angs> sure, I have been asking the same question for 3 days already, I hope to get an answer eventually :)
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  • [02:38:30] <ka6sox-away> at some point people just start to ignore the same plea...best to go on the ML and ask there...then be patient.
  • [02:39:31] <ka6sox-away> this is a holiday weekend for quite a few people..and that reduces the number of people actually near their computers...
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  • [03:46:52] <ovatsug_> hello, i have a beaglebone, and i just 'installed' a new fresh angstrom destribution on my SD card, funny thing i don't have /etc/network/interfaces.
  • [03:47:01] <ovatsug_> can someone tell me why? or is it in other place? i have internet connection on my beaglebone. ty
  • [03:54:22] <angs> ubuntu/debian dists have /etc/network/interfaces
  • [03:55:28] <angs> angstrom does not
  • [04:04:51] <ovatsug_> so, what are the equivalents?
  • [04:05:05] <ovatsug_> how can i config a static ip for example
  • [04:05:06] <mrpackethead> ovatsug_: if you are familar with debian/ubuntu, both of those are easy enough to install on the beagle
  • [04:05:36] <ovatsug_> ok, thank you, i think i will do that
  • [04:06:01] <mrpackethead> hang on, i'll find a link with instructions for you
  • [04:06:41] <mrpackethead> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian
  • [04:06:58] <mrpackethead> Robert Nelsons build is sold
  • [04:07:02] <mrpackethead> solid
  • [04:07:50] <ovatsug_> thank you very much, i'm struggling with this since morning. but, just for the sake of knowledge, can you tell me what are the files in angstrom holding the same information as interfaces do in ubuntu?
  • [04:08:00] <mrpackethead> i dont' actually know.
  • [04:08:46] <ovatsug_> ok, you were big help anyway, thank you very much
  • [04:09:03] <mrpackethead> back in the day, there was no debian build
  • [04:09:49] <mrpackethead> so thats why it was an Angstrom world ( as far as i can tell )
  • [04:09:54] <mrpackethead> but now there is
  • [04:10:02] <mrpackethead> so, its a pretty useful option
  • [04:11:23] <ovatsug_> yup, i was just confused because i saw some websites/blog's telling that, there was a /etc/network/interfaces, so, i thought i wasn't burning my SD card correctly or something.
  • [04:11:44] <mrpackethead> what are you going to build with your beagle?
  • [04:14:33] <ovatsug_> going to turn it into an Access Point, then develop some mini-servers, like audio (using vlc library) so i stream audio to the wire and my beaglebone receives it, and reproduces to a speakers
  • [04:16:13] <ovatsug_> i will add mroe features to it, like plugging a webcam via USB, then my beaglebone transmites over the wire to a PC.
  • [04:17:07] <ovatsug_> imagine, 5 beagle bones in the house, being AP's so you can access internet by them, plugging a speaker and a webcam and you suddendly have a sound system in your house, and a security system
  • [04:17:27] <ovatsug_> kind of a nice hobby thing
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  • [04:38:05] <ka6sox> he will have a whole dogsled team!
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  • [04:39:22] <ds2> so there will be an xM to take verbal commands via the DSP? :D
  • [04:40:01] <ka6sox> w00f!
  • [04:40:08] <ds2> "Mosh"
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  • [04:43:33] <ka6sox> just throw them a "Bone"
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  • [05:35:39] <mranostay> hi all!
  • [05:35:48] <mranostay> ka6sox: don't quit the day job
  • [05:36:31] <ka6sox> mranostay, your point being?
  • [05:36:45] <mranostay> ka6sox: the bone joke :P
  • [05:38:49] <ka6sox> okay...I have to figure out why this transmission system is wrong...its blowing up insulators...
  • [05:42:51] <ka6sox> okay thats why...its 10.6kV on the insulator...
  • [05:59:43] <mranostay> ka6sox: what evil mad scientist project are you working on?
  • [06:00:26] <ka6sox> 2mile transmission line....250kW@7.4Mhz
  • [06:02:15] <ka6sox> I think the moose are trying to sharpen their antlers..
  • [06:02:37] <ka6sox> (although I haven't heard of any Moose Steaks there recently)
  • [06:03:09] <mranostay> ka6sox: will you be able to control our minds with it?
  • [06:03:32] <ka6sox> stand in front of the antenna...I can make Mud Volcanos with it :)
  • [06:05:17] <mranostay> but can do you anything evil with ti?
  • [06:05:19] <mranostay> *it
  • [06:06:49] <ka6sox> yes, control Russian Minds...
  • [06:06:59] <ka6sox> (we are still working on the Chinese)
  • [06:07:07] <mranostay> i know a few russian friends we can test it on :P
  • [06:07:26] <mranostay> ka6sox: no north korean?
  • [06:07:38] <ka6sox> The effective Radiated Power is about 3.4MW
  • [06:08:43] <ka6sox> mranostay, they have blown up the slewing phasor...I'm trying to work out the calcs as one of the switchers fell over and took the phasing lines with it.
  • [06:09:51] <mranostay> i understand almost none of that :P
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  • [06:12:46] <ka6sox> basically its stuck heading towards Moscow
  • [06:14:16] <ka6sox> I don't want to go there...its too darned cold.
  • [06:14:56] <mranostay> send me.. send me! :P
  • [06:15:07] <ka6sox> Moose Fodder
  • [06:15:24] <mranostay> ka6sox: in .ru?
  • [06:15:32] <ka6sox> .ak
  • [06:15:55] <ka6sox> sorry .ak.us
  • [06:18:25] <mranostay> hmmm Alaska seems like a state you only visit once
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  • [06:19:36] <ka6sox> I did 5 trips there.
  • [06:19:47] <ka6sox> I built this station
  • [06:20:06] <ka6sox> (in 2001)
  • [06:20:26] <ka6sox> the baseball game didn't start till midnight!
  • [06:20:44] <ka6sox> (had to wait till the sun got below the yardarm)
  • [06:21:15] <mranostay> what is baseball?
  • [06:22:04] <mranostay> ka6sox: doesn't MLB have a curfew for games?
  • [06:23:20] <ka6sox> they have a saying up there.... TIA
  • [06:23:29] <ka6sox> This is Alaska...
  • [06:23:58] <ka6sox> I wish this had waited till the END of may!
  • [06:25:45] <ka6sox> dunno if "LOW" power works....
  • [06:27:40] <ka6sox> everytime I think about 'rewriting' the control system for that station I keep coming back to ...it works..don't mess with it.
  • [06:28:49] <ka6sox> its about 100 10-turn pots...
  • [06:30:03] <dm8tbr> ka6sox: curtain with phase switching for beam direction?
  • [06:31:17] <ka6sox> dm8tbr, yes
  • [06:31:20] <ka6sox> 2X4
  • [06:31:29] <ka6sox> TCI-611
  • [06:31:39] <dm8tbr> nice stuff for contesting ;)
  • [06:32:09] <ka6sox> ya, if I go I'll bring my TS-450
  • [06:32:31] <ka6sox> long path to New Jersey!
  • [06:32:36] <ka6sox> (Auroral)
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  • [06:33:23] <ka6sox> the phasor is broken and we have it bypassed and into 1ea 2 high array...but you can't put 250kW into 1 bay
  • [06:33:45] <ka6sox> so tonight they are going to try "low power"
  • [06:33:57] <ka6sox> I don't htink thats been done since I was there.
  • [06:35:31] <ka6sox> mranostay, http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=2994
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  • [06:40:45] <ka6sox> I needed a day off from EDT
  • [06:45:13] * dm8tbr is on UTC and UGT anyway so didn't really feel todays DST switch
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  • [06:45:41] <mansgrf> http://xteensx.info/german-amateur-fucking-outdoors/
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  • [06:53:15] <ds2> ka6sox: so YOU are responsible for the northern lights, huh?
  • [06:56:55] <ka6sox> ds2, no HAARP does that.
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  • [07:02:22] <mranostay> nice porn spam
  • [07:02:23] <mranostay> ...
  • [07:02:33] <mranostay> ka6sox: i thought that mind control
  • [07:04:42] <ka6sox> I found HAARP by accident and wandered in...
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  • [07:05:46] <ka6sox> now thats some serious power
  • [07:07:57] <ka6sox> 3.6MW
  • [07:08:30] <mranostay> wandered in?
  • [07:08:41] <mranostay> doesn't the Air Force control that?
  • [07:11:26] <ka6sox> the gate was open.
  • [07:11:41] <ka6sox> go figure!
  • [07:12:47] <ka6sox> I was told that there was a OTH-B radar there...
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  • [07:14:33] <dm8tbr> well, I guess they don't get many accidental visitors...
  • [07:14:46] <ds2> ka6sox: but they use proper insulators unlike you ;)
  • [07:17:32] <ka6sox> ds2, they failed to tell me the phasor fell over..
  • [07:19:14] <ka6sox> dm8tbr, trying to find your link again...that shows a picture of something similar.
  • [07:20:09] <dm8tbr> yeah, they had phasing too
  • [07:20:13] <dm8tbr> let me look it up real quick
  • [07:20:21] <ka6sox> your album link?
  • [07:20:34] <dm8tbr> http://www.ruecker.fi/~dm8tbr/ham/dw/pict2262.jpg
  • [07:21:35] <dm8tbr> what I must say I found beautiful was their way to go from coax to symmetric line for QRO
  • [07:21:47] <dm8tbr> http://www.ruecker.fi/~dm8tbr/ham/dw/pict2260.jpg
  • [07:22:00] <dm8tbr> logarithmic aperiodic line
  • [07:22:04] <ka6sox> http://www.ruecker.fi/~dm8tbr/ham/dw/pict2262.jpg
  • [07:22:11] <ka6sox> ya thats the one
  • [07:22:31] <ka6sox> thats a "Balun"
  • [07:22:49] <dm8tbr> yes, just not what the ordinary 'ham' knows as a balum
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  • [07:23:02] <dm8tbr> "where's the ferrite then, duuuuh?!"
  • [07:23:15] <_av500_> Baloo?
  • [07:23:22] <dm8tbr> wazoo?
  • [07:24:35] <ka6sox> uh...
  • [07:24:42] <ka6sox> at those power levels....
  • [07:24:51] <dm8tbr> exactly
  • [07:25:02] <ka6sox> we would call this a "trombone" style balun
  • [07:25:33] <ds2> is that a tuned cavity style one?
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  • [07:27:20] <dm8tbr> it covers all of HF, so not sure if it's really 'tuned'
  • [07:27:23] <ka6sox> thankfully no...this is a broadband section
  • [07:27:47] <ka6sox> iirc the impedence of the ladder it 450ohms
  • [07:27:57] <ka6sox> (we use a 2 wire not a 4 wire system)
  • [07:28:43] <dm8tbr> do you also have those neat little bulbs hanging from the transmission lines and the antenna?
  • [07:29:19] <ka6sox> yes
  • [07:29:43] <ka6sox> and a GIANT Moose fence
  • [07:29:47] * mranostay loves the trolling of his board designs :)
  • [07:31:17] <ka6sox> well at least the Engineer's Hot Tub should be warm tonight.
  • [07:32:41] <ka6sox> Yay!! 100kW fwd, 1.6kW reflected..not bad
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  • [07:32:46] <ka6sox> I can go to bed now.
  • [07:32:53] <ka6sox> nite all
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  • [07:36:26] <mrpackethead> wat are we winding up today
  • [07:37:25] <mranostay> mrpackethead: building a troll cape
  • [07:37:45] <mrpackethead> troll-trap-cape
  • [07:37:51] <mrpackethead> taht would sell
  • [07:38:40] <ds2> just 1.6kW reflected?
  • [07:38:51] <mrpackethead> and a we-might-have-a-beagle-board-that-is-compatible-cape
  • [07:38:57] <ds2> should get a directional coupler and suck off that 1.6kW
  • [07:39:29] <mrpackethead> whos got a 100kW tx
  • [07:39:31] <mranostay> mrpackethead: JTAG + LA + pulse generator cape
  • [07:40:01] <mrpackethead> thats not the average HAM set
  • [07:40:31] <mrpackethead> im needing to buy a milling machine
  • [07:41:05] <dm8tbr> ds2: a circulator rated for 250kW could be sizeable and expensive :)
  • [07:55:46] <ds2> dm8tbr: given the local utility rates, that might still be cheaper
  • [07:56:23] <ds2> mrpackethead: getting a nice HAAS VF-2?
  • [07:56:45] <mrpackethead> i know nothing about milling machiens
  • [07:56:47] <mrpackethead> :_)_
  • [07:56:55] <dm8tbr> heh, if you live close enough to the side you can just put up a coil and leech off the near-field
  • [07:57:28] <dm8tbr> in germany that's a punishable crime though. "energy theft"
  • [08:04:31] <mranostay> heh
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  • [08:16:34] <ds2> but reflected energy is wasted energy so....
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  • [08:59:17] <mrpackethead> where does the 1.6kW end up?
  • [08:59:29] <mrpackethead> somethign getting warm?
  • [09:02:31] <mranostay> mrpackethead: he is giving russians cancer
  • [09:03:08] <mrpackethead> they are immune, its a side effect of drinking vodka
  • [09:05:27] <mranostay> heh
  • [09:20:06] <dm8tbr> mranostay: likely heat in the valves
  • [09:20:15] <dm8tbr> usually water cooled
  • [09:21:07] <dm8tbr> mrpackethead: ^^^^
  • [09:21:32] <mrpackethead> ahh reflected back into the transmitter
  • [09:21:45] <mrpackethead> i guess you dont' wnat too much of that happening!
  • [09:21:48] <dm8tbr> mrpackethead: http://www.ruecker.fi/~dm8tbr/ham/dw/DCP_4576.JPG - that's about the size of those I'd expect. For comparison, that small speck next to it is something the size of a 4CX100
  • [09:22:17] <dm8tbr> yes, usually there is a protection circuit that will shutter your output power if the VSWR is bad
  • [09:22:26] <mrpackethead> you still use valves?
  • [09:23:15] <dm8tbr> yes, for high power HF/LF applications they are actually easier than semiconductors
  • [09:24:00] <dm8tbr> using FETs you'd need racks full of modules and combiners
  • [09:25:36] <dm8tbr> also if you over-spec the valve it will virtually 'never' break
  • [09:26:18] <mrpackethead> yeah, i guess, 100kW is quite big for a semiconductor
  • [09:26:30] <mrpackethead> though, why so much power?
  • [09:26:44] <dm8tbr> the site we visited back then used 3dB over-speced ones and loved it. 8x200kW = 8x100kW and 2x400kW = 2x200kW
  • [09:27:56] <dm8tbr> are you familiar with the Shannon-Hartley theorem?
  • [09:28:07] <mrpackethead> no.
  • [09:28:23] <dm8tbr> it defines channel capacity based on variables
  • [09:29:12] <dm8tbr> and you can increase your channel capacity by among other things power
  • [09:30:40] <dm8tbr> with the power rating mentioned, you can easily cover a whole continent with good quality radio signal
  • [09:31:19] <dm8tbr> and the continent doesn't need to be right next to the transmitter either
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  • [09:32:34] <Aditya> hello
  • [09:33:11] <Aditya> i am doing a project on beagleboard xm to send and receive data from BB and smartphone using Bluetooth
  • [09:33:16] <Aditya> i need you r help
  • [09:33:37] <Aditya> can any one provide me simple C programs to start with this..
  • [09:34:03] <mrpackethead> What does your assignment suggest
  • [09:34:11] <dm8tbr> printf('hello world')
  • [09:34:19] <mrpackethead> and when do you have to hand in your homework
  • [09:34:40] <_av500_> and what does your supervisor say, other than "go askin #beagle"
  • [09:34:40] <Aditya> I need some sample C programs to send and receive data over BT
  • [09:34:47] <_av500_> tried google?
  • [09:34:52] <Aditya> i am presently using Blez
  • [09:35:03] <dm8tbr> you meant bluez
  • [09:35:13] <Aditya> i am new to this embedded field so need help to start with
  • [09:35:19] <Aditya> yup bluez..
  • [09:35:27] <dm8tbr> I'd recommend to start on your desktop/laptop
  • [09:35:28] <Aditya> i am trying to install Affix kernel
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  • [09:35:37] <dm8tbr> if it doesn't have bt, just add a dongle
  • [09:35:38] <Aditya> but not working
  • [09:35:49] <mrpackethead> Aditya: are familar with Linux?
  • [09:36:00] <dm8tbr> once you have it working on your desktop linux, you can move it to your BBxm
  • [09:36:12] <Aditya> http://people.csail.mit.edu/albert/bluez-intro/c404.html
  • [09:36:18] <Aditya> ya i am familiar with linux
  • [09:36:22] <Aditya> i refered this site
  • [09:36:37] <Aditya> bb has dongle and all..
  • [09:36:41] <mrpackethead> so, you are a student/
  • [09:36:42] <mrpackethead> ?
  • [09:36:53] <Aditya> ya..i am student of computers..
  • [09:37:00] <Aditya> i am new to embedded
  • [09:37:10] <mrpackethead> and wy do you think we want to do your homework for you
  • [09:37:39] <Aditya> its not homework its out of my interest i am trying to learn. if you can help me out i will be greateful
  • [09:38:05] <Aditya> atlaeast as a first step i would like to transfer the data between my laptop and phone..
  • [09:38:05] <mrpackethead> theres only one thing that trolls like eating more than hobbits, its assignments.. the Cheif troll is here.
  • [09:38:09] <Aditya> i am using ubuntu'
  • [09:39:05] <Aditya> can u please help me out in this regard..
  • [09:40:01] <Aditya> mrpackethead can you help me learn it??
  • [09:40:27] <Aditya> mr dm8tbr can you please elaborate it
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  • [09:40:48] <mrpackethead> Aditya: exact steps?
  • [09:41:22] * dm8tbr puts an elmer fudd mask on: "It's TROLL SEASON!"
  • [09:41:43] <mrpackethead> Aditya: did you bring Troll food?
  • [09:42:03] <Aditya> ya..atleast i need sample programs to start with it..
  • [09:42:25] <mrpackethead> what was wrong with the ones in the page that you refered to
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  • [09:42:41] <Aditya> i am unabel to install affix kernel
  • [09:42:50] <Aditya> its aksing me to give kernel source flder
  • [09:43:38] <dm8tbr> what's an affix kernel?
  • [09:43:50] <Aditya> i gave it as /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-35-generic-pae
  • [09:43:55] <Aditya> but compilation failed..
  • [09:44:36] <Aditya> dm8tbr:http://affix.sourceforge.net/documentation.shtml
  • [09:44:54] <dm8tbr> why do you need to use that?
  • [09:45:26] <Aditya> its given to write and execute C Program to transfer data over BT
  • [09:47:09] <Aditya> u guys ae experienced..
  • [09:47:15] <Aditya> can u please help me out
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  • [09:56:00] <Aditya> hey guys
  • [09:56:17] <Aditya> anything you can help me out
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  • [15:49:58] <mranostay> mourning
  • [15:50:18] <woglinde> trool
  • [16:15:06] <mranostay> troll!
  • [16:16:17] <ka6sox-away> well..that blew up
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  • [16:37:38] <mru> troll troll troll
  • [16:38:24] <woglinde> easter troll now
  • [16:39:24] <ka6sox-away> wet soggy trolls
  • [16:42:54] <mranostay> ka6sox-away: transmitter?
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  • [18:14:11] * mranostay does the fun process of finding 30 pru lines on the mux
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  • [18:52:56] <ka6sox-away> mranostay, nope...not enough
  • [18:58:25] <mranostay> woot a free buffer line for a pop delay test
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  • [20:07:18] <mrpackethead> i saw some Angstrom Bashing in teh mailing list today
  • [20:08:43] <woglinde> haha
  • [20:09:40] <thurbad> .. why
  • [20:09:57] <thurbad> it's not like they paid for it
  • [20:10:20] <mrpackethead> ;ikely because tye did'nt understnad it
  • [20:10:29] <mrpackethead> opps, thats some bad typing
  • [20:10:39] <mrpackethead> likely because they didn't understand it.
  • [20:11:05] <mrpackethead> i say " if it works for you, thats cool "
  • [20:12:31] <mranostay> and new zealand logs on
  • [20:12:51] <mrpackethead> morning captain troll
  • [20:13:09] <mranostay> that is mru
  • [20:13:23] <mranostay> i am the commanding officer until he or av500 logs on
  • [20:13:30] <woglinde> lol
  • [20:13:31] <mrpackethead> i have a problem now.. Customer is about to order 260 of those DMX capes
  • [20:13:38] <mrpackethead> and they are not finished
  • [20:13:39] <mrpackethead> :-)
  • [20:13:42] <woglinde> hm
  • [20:13:51] <mranostay> heh
  • [20:13:54] <mrpackethead> thats what you get for selling vaporware
  • [20:13:55] <mranostay> no software? :)
  • [20:13:55] <mrpackethead> :-)
  • [20:13:57] <woglinde> what does the capes do?
  • [20:14:08] <mrpackethead> its not as bad as it seems
  • [20:14:14] <mranostay> or just no hardware?
  • [20:14:21] <mrpackethead> hardware looks fine
  • [20:14:47] <mranostay> 260 seems like a nice order
  • [20:14:50] <mrpackethead> all the ports electrically behavior
  • [20:15:03] <mrpackethead> i have a coupel of large cusomters, who when they buy stuff
  • [20:15:09] <mrpackethead> they buy lots of stuff
  • [20:16:40] <mranostay> hmm well some of us have and are doing PRU projects :)
  • [20:16:51] <mrpackethead> yup.
  • [20:17:07] <mrpackethead> we'll get there
  • [20:17:08] <mrpackethead> :0)
  • [20:17:48] <mranostay> this troll cape is going to rock
  • [20:18:10] <mrpackethead> do you have the exact-steps patch going yet mranostay
  • [20:18:28] <mranostay> that is a patchset? :)
  • [20:19:05] <mranostay> i forgot crystals are rather expensive
  • [20:19:26] <mrpackethead> jelly crystals are about $0.80/packet
  • [20:19:31] <mrpackethead> have you tryed those
  • [20:20:39] * mranostay thinks the unbuffered part of the troll cape should be a clear void warranty
  • [20:21:31] <mranostay> almost no pop delay but if you pipe 10 volts down it well you are screwed :)
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  • [21:15:24] <WonderClown> I'm trying to get Debian or Ubuntu running on my Beaglebone and I'm at my wit's end.
  • [21:15:36] <WonderClown> Does anybody have an sdcard image they can share with me?
  • [21:16:12] <WonderClown> I've tried everything mentioned at http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian
  • [21:16:29] <WonderClown> Always hangs when starting the init process.
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  • [21:21:31] <mrpackethead> WonderClown: have you got the USB ethernet widget plugged into something
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  • [21:21:52] <mrpackethead> I've seen this problem, when the USB is not connected
  • [21:21:54] <mrpackethead> it just sits thre
  • [21:22:03] <WonderClown> mrpackethead: I have the serial console connected.
  • [21:22:20] <WonderClown> mrpackethead: But I didn't configure the USB gadget thingy on the host.
  • [21:22:25] <mrpackethead> ok..
  • [21:22:30] <mrpackethead> thats likely your problme
  • [21:22:36] <WonderClown> mrpackethead: I've tried with and without the USB attached.
  • [21:23:00] <mrpackethead> USB gagdet, or just the USB serial?
  • [21:23:12] <WonderClown> They're the same cable, aren't they?
  • [21:23:29] <mrpackethead> yes, same cable
  • [21:23:33] <mrpackethead> but two devices
  • [21:23:44] <WonderClown> I mean I've tried it powered by a 5V adaptor and nothing on the USB, but an Ethernet connection.
  • [21:23:52] <WonderClown> And I wait for the ssh server to come up, and it never does.
  • [21:24:10] <WonderClown> I suppose that might just be an ssh problem. I'll try making the USB networking work.
  • [21:24:17] <mrpackethead> yes, you need to.
  • [21:24:34] <mrpackethead> the USB network port seems to need to be up for the first boot
  • [21:24:38] <mrpackethead> once you get past that
  • [21:24:41] <mrpackethead> and configure thigns
  • [21:24:45] <mrpackethead> it seems to be fine.
  • [21:24:57] <mrpackethead> I need to talk to Robert Nelson about this.
  • [21:24:58] <WonderClown> Oh, for the first boot only.
  • [21:25:37] <WonderClown> I've been working on this for the past 48 hours. If it's this simple I am going to need counseling.
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  • [21:31:00] <Archimedes> Hey, everyone.
  • [21:32:11] <Archimedes> I'm having trouble with the real time clock battery on my beagleboard xM. Is there a known issue with it? Also, is it possible to get the board to recharge this battery?
  • [21:34:03] <thurbad> what rtc battery?
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  • [21:34:55] <mru> I guess you could call that a known issue
  • [21:35:18] <Archimedes> What do you mean, mru?
  • [21:35:26] <thurbad> afaik it doesn't even have pins fora battery
  • [21:37:57] <mru> otoh it's always fully charged, in a sense
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  • [21:40:02] <Archimedes> thurbad - I'm talking about a 3V battery that I soldered into the board, while also removing R65. This option is in the documentation.
  • [21:40:43] <Archimedes> mru - so I'm afraid I'm confused. Is the not keeping time what you are calling the "known issue"?
  • [21:41:18] <thurbad> I've never seen it keep tme whenturned off, didn't even realize that was a battery there
  • [21:42:18] <Archimedes> The batteries I have used have discharged over time, so I don't know what you would mean by "always fully charged", either.
  • [21:42:53] <mru> the non-existent battery is always 'full'
  • [21:43:15] <mru> you didn't mention you'd added one
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  • [21:44:00] <Archimedes> Now that I have . . . do you have any insights into this, sir?
  • [21:46:25] <WonderClown> mrpackethead: That worked. Holy crap.
  • [21:46:30] <WonderClown> Oh, he left.
  • [21:47:58] <woglinde> WonderClown he will come back
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  • [21:51:04] <WonderClown> Is there anything to be done about microsd access being really slow? Faster card, or maybe align the filesystem blocks?
  • [21:51:18] <woglinde> faster card
  • [21:57:52] <WonderClown> So the system seems to hang every time I attach the USB debug cable until I do "ifconfig usb0 up" on the host.
  • [21:58:04] <WonderClown> That's annoying, but I guess I can live with it.
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  • [23:37:19] <WonderClown> mrpackethead: Your suggestion worked. Thanks very much.
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  • [23:39:37] <mrpackethead> cool
  • [23:39:39] <mrpackethead> :-)
  • [23:40:02] <mrpackethead> I need to figure out why its doing that though
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  • [23:50:21] <mrpackethead> WonderClown: are you rnortman?
  • [23:50:58] <WonderClown> I am.
  • [23:51:03] <mrpackethead> i jsut saw your message
  • [23:51:06] <WonderClown> I guess you saw the desperate email post too.
  • [23:51:10] <WonderClown> I'm about to follow up.
  • [23:51:32] <WonderClown> Waiting to finish the squeeze netinst first so I can report on that also.
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  • [23:52:24] <mrpackethead> i use squeeze
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  • [23:53:22] <WonderClown> I probably will too, if I can get my usb wifi dongle to work in it.
  • [23:53:35] <WonderClown> But I'm doubtful, as it's a recent atheros chipset.
  • [23:54:20] <WonderClown> Yup, the squeeze netinst completed successfully as well.
  • [23:54:42] <WonderClown> But it hangs when you plug in the USB cable every time until you "ifconfig usb0 up" on the host.
  • [23:55:04] <WonderClown> If the USB cable isn't plugged in at all it seems to boot.
  • [23:55:37] <mrpackethead> mmm.
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  • [23:56:06] <mrpackethead> add that bit of info to the reply in the list