[00:00:39] <ds2> besides you confirming my theory about OTG funny business? ;)
[00:00:53] <Russ> Its the ID pin
[00:01:05] <ds2> still funny business
[00:01:18] <Russ> I measure resistance from ID to VUSB, I get 66k
[00:01:18] <ds2> the real question is - did you find a way to stop it?
[00:01:47] <Russ> no way to stop it, I could mask that interrupt source
[00:02:11] <Russ> every time it happens, the interrupt handler has to do some i2c transfers to find out the source, so its a bit of an annoyance
[00:02:16] <ds2> isn't that MUSB behind it?
[00:02:22] <Russ> yes, musb
[00:02:51] <ds2> I vaguely recall some setting to tweak that stuff
[00:03:08] <Russ> I could change the timer, but for OTG to work, it has to probe ID
[00:03:28] <ds2> but for your implementation, it doesn't require OTG, or am I wrong?
[00:03:40] <Russ> It's generic code
[00:03:50] <ds2> rewrite it
[00:03:54] <Russ> I'm trying to catch wakeup sources for RTC-only sleep
[00:03:57] <mranostay> Russ: 1$ how is that possible?
[00:04:04] <ds2> no one will notice... it is only MUSB... :D
[00:04:14] <Russ> so that if during the suspend process, a wakeup even occurs, I don't sleep
[00:04:18] <ds2> you can even have a chat with Felipe about it too ;)
[00:04:23] <Russ> mranostay, you'd have to pay me to ride the bus
[00:04:30] <mranostay> ah that bad
[00:04:54] <Russ> reminds me of bdale's rant on LWN wrt preinstalled windows
[00:05:07] <Russ> it doesn't save a company money to leave out windows, it costs them money
[00:05:19] <Russ> all the companies that pay them money to preload software
[00:06:38] <Russ> ds2, lets see...5V, 66k, 90uA sink
[00:09:11] <ds2> Russ: but it is the wake up
[00:09:22] <ds2> Russ: btw, how low of a power consumption ahve you gotten it?
[00:09:26] <Russ> plugging in a usb cable will wake from RTC only sleep
[00:09:42] <Russ> heh, beaglebone can do rtc only sleep, but it isn't designed for it
[00:09:53] <Russ> you need a separate power rail for ddr vdd and vvdq
[00:09:57] <Russ> er, vddq
[00:10:19] <Russ> so it only goes down to 100mW
[00:10:34] <Russ> I can hibernate though
[00:10:37] <ds2> doesn't the memory controller support self refresh?
[00:10:47] <Russ> yes, I'm putting it in self refresh
[00:11:01] <Russ> but the am335x ddr io rail is still powered, along with the ddr's io rail
[00:11:10] <ds2> Oh
[00:11:21] <ds2> that's still 30 or so mA measured
[00:11:33] <Russ> 100mW@5V
[00:11:45] <ds2> ok... so
[00:11:58] <ds2> I am looking at running the bone at ~3V
[00:12:03] <ds2> seems to work ok
[00:12:52] <ds2> so you are suggesting that 20mA or so is from the regulator idling?
[00:13:07] <Russ> I haven't measured individual rails
[00:13:29] <Russ> evmsk has better control over rails, but the pmic doesn't really support rtc only
[00:14:02] <ds2> trying to understand if the burn is on the PMIC side or something else
[00:14:11] <ds2> 20mA seems to be quite a lot for it to be burning
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[00:14:32] <Russ> well I could configure it to turn off the ddr rail
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[00:15:08] <bpetersen> Can I power the BeagleBone with a 5VDC power source supplied to pins 3 or 6 on Expansion Header P9?
[00:15:13] <ds2> the obvious stuff like LEDs are off, right?
[00:15:28] <ds2> bpetersen: what does the SRM say about that?
[00:15:34] <Russ> ds2, yes
[00:15:39] <Russ> here, I'll test w/o ddr2
[00:15:42] <Russ> er ddr
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[00:15:59] <bpetersen> I think it says I can. I've never done it before and I don't want to blow it up
[00:16:22] <bpetersen> I just wanted to double check
[00:16:40] <ds2> do you have reasons to double the beagle gods? :D
[00:16:47] <bpetersen> lol
[00:17:14] <Russ> whenever I doubt the beagle gods, I reference the schematic, and I am comforted
[00:17:41] <ds2> powering it by those pins are relatively uninteresting
[00:18:02] <ds2> there are more interesting paths with power path management
[00:19:47] <Russ> well that's not good, power consumption went up
[00:19:52] <Russ> I need to do some probing...
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[00:20:27] <ds2> hahahahahahah
[00:20:44] <ds2> maybe you need to run cpuburn to bring the power down to sub 1mW @ 5V ;)
[00:20:52] <bpetersen> My friend wants to use a ribbon cable for the expansion header
[00:21:06] <bpetersen> thats why I needed to know if the pins will work
[00:21:07] <jsabeaudry> Can anyone confirm how many interrupts will be triggered by 2 linked slots that both have TCINTEN set?
[00:24:49] * Russ plays find that component
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[00:28:10] <Russ> that's a bad sign, 3V3A is at 1.35V
[00:30:12] <ds2> whoa
[00:30:37] <ds2> are you drawing several amps?
[00:30:50] <Russ> no
[00:31:07] <Russ> I think because of the weird configuration I have it in, some esd diodes are "leaking"
[00:31:45] <ds2> or maybe there the parasitic diodes in the PFETs are doing wierd things?
[00:31:56] <Russ> something like that
[00:32:19] <Russ> I have another 3.3V ldo with 0.5V on it's output, it's enable pin is low though
[00:33:31] <ds2> not all LDOs block
[00:34:08] <Russ> I think I need to move a couple zero ohm jumper
[00:34:09] <Russ> s
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[00:36:33] <ds2> uncape is in motion
[00:36:42] <Russ> of course they are right between the ethernet jack and the dc jack
[00:38:25] <ds2> like right where the battery expansion header is? ;)
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[00:39:07] <Russ> um...
[00:39:09] <Russ> ya, sure
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[01:47:50] <mrpackethead_> more on the beaglebone black
[01:48:39] <toneeee> the whut ?
[01:49:10] <toneeee> mrpackethead: howsit , what a beaglebone black?
[01:49:59] <mrpackethead_> https://github.com/CircuitCo/BeagleBone-Black-RevA4
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[01:50:34] <mrpackethead_> Gerald is answering questons in teh mailing list.
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[01:52:23] <mrpackethead_> the document says "Not for Discolousre"
[01:52:24] <mrpackethead_> opps.
[01:53:01] <toneeee> ohhh
[01:53:05] <mrpackethead_> onboard HDMI
[01:53:31] <mrpackethead_> onboard managed NAND
[01:53:37] <toneeee> beauty
[01:53:42] <mrpackethead_> 512MB RAM
[01:53:46] <mrpackethead_> AM3358A
[01:54:01] <toneeee> yeah I see it is 4Gb
[01:54:06] <toneeee> and DDR3
[01:54:34] <toneeee> and I see Mr HDMI! :D
[01:55:03] <thurbad> is it real hdmi or dvi in a smaller form factor again?
[01:55:05] <jakllsch> "managed nand"?
[01:56:09] <mrpackethead_> its way too much sensible information for it to be a hoax
[01:58:33] <mrpackethead_> http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBoneBlack
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[02:01:09] <thurbad> and it will have SGX support in v5?
[02:03:27] <ds2> it is all a figment of your imagination
[02:03:51] <thurbad> heh
[02:04:05] <thurbad> quite possibly
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[02:07:51] <Russ> and there is no way that I would have one
[02:08:31] <thurbad> :~
[02:09:05] <Russ> I suppose u-boot commits probably tipped people off
[02:09:41] <thurbad> some docs for the R5 are available already
[02:09:53] <thurbad> err v5 :P
[02:10:03] <thurbad> urrg A5
[02:10:16] <thurbad> hehehe
[02:11:44] <Russ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvaD-29pQBY&t=1m9s
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[03:13:25] <mrpackethead_> Russ.. Docs in deed.. The entire System Reference Manaual
[03:13:29] <mrpackethead_> is avaialble
[03:13:38] <mrpackethead_> and the wiki
[03:13:47] <mrpackethead_> http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBoneBlack
[03:15:53] <mrpackethead_> looks like its ready to go
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[04:00:40] <Dunearhp> is the 3.2 kernel considered stable on the beagleboard at the moment?
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[04:09:01] <mranostay> seeing we at what 3.8 i would say so
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[04:11:24] <mru> damn you seagate... this is _not_ a good time for my hard drive to die
[04:11:49] <mru> good thing I have a spare
[04:11:50] <Dunearhp> I'm getting random kernel lockups preceded by usb disconnects
[04:12:46] <Dunearhp> roughly once a day
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[04:19:04] <mranostay> mru: ever a good time?
[04:19:13] <mranostay> Dunearhp: vague!
[04:19:30] <Dunearhp> I know
[04:19:31] <mru> mranostay: better when I don't have to wake up in <5h
[04:20:05] <mranostay> ah yeah that is bad
[04:20:51] <Dunearhp> Seems to be associated with network traffic, but not with network load
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[04:34:55] <mrpackethead_> Dunearhp: i'm usign 3.2.33-psp26 and it seems stable
[04:35:18] <mrpackethead_> got a resonably diverse range of tasks and they seem to be stable
[04:35:32] <mrpackethead_> mranostay: what did you make of black-beagle?
[04:35:40] <mranostay> i don't have one
[04:35:46] <mrpackethead_> nor do i
[04:35:53] <mru> disk replaced
[04:35:53] <mrpackethead_> that is an untenible situation
[04:36:11] <mranostay> if i did i would be under some NDA :)
[04:36:23] <mrpackethead_> dear folks@circitco.. this hobbit wants a black one
[04:36:34] * mru tosses mranostay a black magic marker
[04:36:39] <mrpackethead_> seems it is the worst kept secrect...
[04:36:48] <mrpackethead_> or they are deliberately leaking it
[04:37:12] <mrpackethead_> you woud'nt post the Reference Manual to a public GIt repository woudl you
[04:37:13] <mrpackethead_> ?
[04:37:19] <mrpackethead_> or put it in your wiki
[04:37:26] <mru> it's only semi-secret
[04:37:33] <mranostay> probably dropbox if i was doing that
[04:37:56] <mrpackethead_> must have been enough raspiberry Pi people annoying them
[04:38:42] <mranostay> i don't know how many dipshit people i know say "well it only $35"
[04:39:05] <mranostay> yeah you can't do anything with it :)
[04:41:46] <mru> wow, that disk is still under warranty
[04:41:55] <mru> expires in june
[04:42:11] <Dunearhp> mrpackethead_: is that available as a package anywhere? I'm on 3.2.28
[04:42:27] <Dunearhp> trying to set up the serial console
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[04:46:57] <mrpackethead_> Dunearhp: i'm using a debian build
[04:47:10] <mrpackethead_> if you want to use that, theres a very simple to follow net-install
[04:48:18] <mrpackethead_> mranostay: $35 + $10 for a card, $10 for a PSU cause powring it on USB doesnt work.. its not long
[04:48:25] <mrpackethead_> and you coud have bought a bone.
[04:48:42] <mrpackethead_> i finally gave away my last pis yesterday
[04:48:48] <mrpackethead_> to the local maker-space
[04:48:58] <mrpackethead_> someone will do somethign quirky with it no dobut.
[04:50:35] <mranostay> well the power supply doesn't come with the bone either
[04:50:50] <mranostay> can the rpi be powered by USB? i can't remember
[04:51:13] <mrpackethead_> it glows,
[04:51:18] <mrpackethead_> but it falls over
[05:00:16] * mranostay wonders who will win the cape contest tomorrrow
[05:02:28] <mranostay> dmx cape is cool but all the three people that will buy it :)
[05:13:01] <mrpackethead_> its not that cool
[05:13:15] <mrpackethead_> dmx should ( by standard ) be by directional
[05:13:25] <mrpackethead_> should be isolated
[05:13:30] <mrpackethead_> and should have RDM biasing
[05:13:51] <mranostay> i know a few capes that aren't getting selected due to fire risks :)
[05:13:52] <mrpackethead_> mranostay: i've sold several thousand ethernet --> DMX nodes
[05:14:08] <mrpackethead_> there are more than 3 people who woudl buy them
[05:14:39] <mranostay> isolated by 1:1 transformers?
[05:14:58] <mrpackethead_> Opto-isolation and and DC/DC converters
[05:15:14] <mranostay> ah yes opto-islolation would be best
[05:16:48] <mrpackethead_> https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/535461_10151409829417661_1980766203_n.jpg?
[05:16:52] <mrpackethead_> something liket hat
[05:18:43] <mrpackethead_> ironically we are buildign this..
[05:18:46] <mrpackethead_> https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/535461_10151409829417661_1980766203_n.jpg
[05:18:53] <mrpackethead_> opps, try again
[05:19:05] <mrpackethead_> https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/408443_10151409832482661_1855671786_n.jpg
[05:19:41] <mranostay> you know the ? would be ignored in that case :)
[05:20:24] <mrpackethead_> yup.
[05:21:20] <mrpackethead_> id be dissapointed if a FPGA or CLPD cape won
[05:21:37] <mrpackethead_> theres not much immagination there
[05:21:45] <mrpackethead_> teh VGA output.. thats old hat
[05:21:56] <mranostay> well i bet the CPLD cape doesn't win for sure
[05:22:24] <mrpackethead_> Solar cape is a contender
[05:22:37] <mranostay> won't happen
[05:22:42] <mrpackethead_> GPS/FM is interesting.
[05:23:02] <mranostay> CCO isn't going to produce something that can catch fire
[05:23:33] <mrpackethead_> Energon is interesting
[05:23:51] <mrpackethead_> AStimo camo is cool
[05:24:17] <mrpackethead_> stomp cape i meant..
[05:24:45] <mrpackethead_> i think theres only possibly 4 contentders for a winner
[05:24:46] <mranostay> didn't look at their schematic
[05:24:58] <mranostay> mrpackethead_: well there are 3 winners :)
[05:25:07] <mranostay> what is your list?
[05:25:47] <mrpackethead_> GPS_FM
[05:26:07] <mrpackethead_> Cape Wings
[05:26:17] <mrpackethead_> Stomp
[05:26:20] <mrpackethead_> and Gieger
[05:26:50] <mrpackethead_> in no order
[05:27:43] <mrpackethead_> but i wodu'nt want to judge this oe
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[05:27:54] <mrpackethead_> theres some that clearly shoudl not be winner
[05:28:04] <mranostay> well the GPS_FM assume a battery cape that really charges batteries
[05:29:09] <mrpackethead_> antying that is justa board to development on, is boring
[05:29:18] <mrpackethead_> they want something that does something
[05:29:27] <mrpackethead_> "using a FGPA" is not doign sometrhign
[05:29:32] <mranostay> yeah and CCO doesn't want something that catches fire :)
[05:29:32] <mrpackethead_> its just a capablity
[05:29:50] <mrpackethead_> why would solar energy catch fire?
[05:30:13] * mranostay remembers babysitting battery chargers in his lab rat jobs
[05:30:25] <mranostay> overcharge
[05:30:47] <mrpackethead_> what i didnt get about that that project is why they used a pic-16
[05:31:22] <mrpackethead_> and a Serial connection
[05:31:23] <mranostay> really?
[05:31:34] <mranostay> christ why would you do that?
[05:31:38] <mrpackethead_> yeah.. its a pic16 attached to the Beagle on a serial port
[05:31:58] <mrpackethead_> its a rehashed project
[05:32:16] <mrpackethead_> i bet you can find a PIC solar project
[05:32:22] <mrpackethead_> thats now been fitted on a Beaglecape PCB
[05:32:53] <mrpackethead_> its why Sean's DmX is a good proejct
[05:32:57] <mrpackethead_> although its not quite finished
[05:33:05] <mrpackethead_> hes been smart and used the Beagle wel
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[05:41:24] <ds2> Hmmmm so CCO is not going to manufacture the Bone flare launcher?
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[06:03:53] <mranostay> ds2: unlikely
[06:11:21] <mrpackethead_> unkley?
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[06:24:16] <_av500_> mrpackethead_: :-P
[06:24:40] <mrpackethead_> some days _av500_ i'd swear you where a bot
[06:25:14] <mrpackethead_> i wonder if my ISP is goign to support IPv6 some day soon
[06:25:23] <_av500_> mrpackethead_: but I am
[06:25:45] <_av500_> I sit in this channel because I feel safe here
[06:25:56] <mrpackethead_> safe.. your deluded.
[06:26:24] <mrpackethead_> in a kind sort of way
[06:26:25] <mrpackethead_> :-)
[06:28:50] <mrpackethead_> http://www.techthefuture.com/technology/printing-living-cells-with-a-150-open-source-bioprinter/ <-- bio-cape?
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[06:31:34] <Russ> does nz even get ipv6?
[06:31:41] <mrpackethead_> yup..
[06:31:57] <mrpackethead_> i was deploying ipv6 more than 7 years ago
[06:32:05] <Russ> I'd think at least verizon fios would be on top of this ipv6 thing, but no such luck
[06:32:16] <mrpackethead_> but my ISP at home is way behind the times.
[06:32:28] <mrpackethead_> i can tunnel
[06:32:33] <mrpackethead_> but its ugly.
[06:32:38] <Russ> ds2, good news everyone
[06:32:49] <Russ> with my modification, I'm down to about 18mW
[06:33:08] <mrpackethead_> thats pretty squeeky
[06:33:09] <mrpackethead_> :-)
[06:33:33] <mrpackethead_> i'm jsut workign out how big a battery i need
[06:33:35] <mrpackethead_> to keep it alive
[06:33:36] <mrpackethead_> :-)
[06:33:55] <Russ> now I just need to check with koen why it's configured that way in the first place
[06:34:47] <mrpackethead_> about 3Whrs per week
[06:34:50] <mrpackethead_> thats not much
[06:36:19] <ds2> Russ: nifty...is your mod as bad as the mod for the classic?
[06:38:14] <_av500_> we dont need ipv6, there is nice and shiny carrier grade NAT for you
[06:43:00] <joel_> Russ: koen: jkridner__: got FIT kernel images booting on beaglebone :): http://pastebin.com/CT6smgyi
[06:43:12] <Russ> its just moving a zero ohm resistor
[06:43:21] <mrpackethead_> a reletively low cost LiPO battery will keep thigns ticking over for a week, easily
[06:44:32] <mrpackethead_> keeps the system a little happier..
[06:44:41] <mrpackethead_> from unscheduled shutdowns etc
[06:45:07] <mrpackethead_> Russ, what sort of I/O can you use to put the sytem into Shutdown?
[06:45:31] <Russ> talk to the TPS
[06:45:36] <Russ> via the RTC
[06:45:56] <Russ> search the trm for PMIC_POWER_EN
[06:46:16] <Russ> you basically set a register in the TPS, set a couple in the RTC, then setup ALARM2 to go off
[06:46:40] <Russ> see: [PATCH v4 0/4] pm: Add power off control
[06:47:03] <mrpackethead_> and to wake up?
[06:49:20] <Russ> a change in power source or press the power button
[06:49:36] <Russ> (eg, if usb and ac are plugged in, unplug one, or if only one is plugged in, plug in the other)
[06:49:48] <Russ> the tps manual has a list of wakeup sources from off
[06:50:12] <mrpackethead_> can you use a GPIO?
[06:50:24] <Russ> no
[06:50:43] <joel_> yeah PMIC has to wake up
[06:50:51] <Russ> but the powerbutton line is on the expansion connector
[06:50:56] <Russ> so its like a gpio
[06:50:58] <mrpackethead_> ahh, thats ok then.
[06:51:14] <mrpackethead_> i'm just thinking about hwo that will work.
[06:51:22] <mrpackethead_> main power goes "out"
[06:51:42] <mrpackethead_> fails over to a LIPO battery maybe connected the the USB port
[06:51:55] <mrpackethead_> then goes to sleep
[06:52:01] <mrpackethead_> before the battery is sucked dry
[06:52:06] <mrpackethead_> when main power comes back
[06:52:14] <mrpackethead_> the system wakes up
[06:52:40] <Russ> oh, well sleep you can wakeup via gpio
[06:56:15] <mrpackethead_> i will need to learn a bit more about this.
[06:56:29] <mrpackethead_> a battery / rtc cape is on the cards
[06:56:53] <Russ> adafruit or sparkfun has an easy to use battery backed rtc module
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[06:57:11] <mrpackethead_> yeah, and have you seen the temperture variations on that park
[06:57:15] <mrpackethead_> part.
[06:57:31] <Russ> nope, not a thing on it. Just that it's an i2c accessible battery backed rtc
[06:57:36] <mrpackethead_> ok, if you have it at 25c
[06:57:45] <mrpackethead_> but my environmetn is a bit tougher than that..
[06:57:54] <mrpackethead_> will vary between -10 and 40C
[06:57:56] <Russ> would swapping out the crystal help?
[06:58:05] <mrpackethead_> theres better parts
[06:58:13] <mrpackethead_> that have temperture compenstation
[06:58:19] <mrpackethead_> still and I2C part
[06:58:38] <mrpackethead_> brb got to restart
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[07:08:17] <mrpackethead_> back.
[07:08:21] <mrpackethead_> i needed to install X
[07:08:29] <mrpackethead_> and for some reason It insisted on a reboot
[07:18:38] <koen> Russ: configured what way (the context is not clear from backlog)
[07:19:44] <Russ> well, on the schematic, VDDS is powered by VRTC or VDD_1V8 depending on if R8 or R9 is populated
[07:20:03] <Russ> the board ships with R8 populated (VDDS powered by VRTC)
[07:20:42] <koen> white or black?
[07:20:47] <Russ> black
[07:21:01] <koen> right, that has mods for RTC stuff
[07:21:08] <koen> "what Russ is working on"
[07:21:23] <koen> dunno if they hooked it up correctly, please let us know if we didn't :)
[07:21:31] <Russ> It should be on R9
[07:23:44] <koen> ah
[07:23:51] * koen sees Russ' mail
[07:24:39] <Russ> there is so many details of the am335x and tps65217, so I could easily be missing some detail and my board is currently dying a slow, tortuous death
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[07:28:38] <koen> Russ: how hard would it be to get events from the TPS based on plugging in/out the DC?
[07:28:49] <Russ> I already have a patch for that
[07:28:50] <koen> I still need to find a way to limit the MHz at runtime
[07:29:05] <Russ> but it has an issue with usb, you probably won't care if you only care about dc
[07:29:26] <Russ> the musb id probe that comes every two seconds leaks enough into vusb to make the pmic think it's on
[07:29:39] <koen> I only need to be able to check if DC isn't in and limit the MHz
[07:30:11] <koen> and unlimit it when DC is in
[07:30:36] <koen> although on black we might have enough headroom to run at 1GHz on usb power
[07:32:05] <ynezz> hm, black?
[07:32:23] <Russ> koen, ok, I sent you 3 wip patches
[07:32:41] <Russ> the are unfortunately based on 3.2-psp
[07:33:36] <koen> awesome
[07:33:37] <Russ> it'll need dtification
[07:33:49] <koen> the powerbutton thing is something I need
[07:34:03] <koen> and releases are still on 3.2
[07:34:20] <Russ> I'm curious how to get the am335x to wakeup when it gets an NMI
[07:34:35] <Russ> that way, the powerbutton could properly be configured as a wakeup source
[07:34:39] <Russ> is it an M3 firmware change?
[07:35:06] <koen> not sure
[07:35:20] <koen> the 3.2 PM patches don't work properly for various reasons
[07:35:37] <koen> compiling the kernel in thumb2 mode is one of them
[07:35:58] <koen> on 3.8rc the PM patches don't power up the GPIO block
[07:36:05] <koen> so if you have a gpio-keys -> crash
[07:37:07] <koen> email from TI dallas dude: "Is it just me or can't you get those PM patches to work either?"
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[07:37:53] <Russ> dunno, I'm getting pretty familiar with all the hacks that make it work on psp
[07:38:18] <Russ> should be able to transition into getting that pushed upstream in a somewhat cleaner state
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[07:43:20] <mrpackethead_> who is going to be around tommorrow for cape-contest results
[07:47:08] <mrpackethead_> i wonder when we might get a 3.8 kernel in debian.
[07:47:19] <Russ> aren't they still on 3.2?
[07:47:24] <mrpackethead_> us hobbits are still back in 3.2 world
[07:47:38] <mrpackethead_> its not all bad, the traps are all well marked out
[07:48:10] <mrpackethead_> being a bit behind makes applicaiton development much easier..
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[08:39:02] <panto> gm
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[08:46:31] * dm8tbr will catch a flight in 6h
[08:50:32] * av500 will catch a train in 4h
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[09:02:19] <av500> hobbit s have a fridge?
[09:02:41] <hobbit> of course...
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[09:03:22] <mrpackethead> i'm contemplating a change of name
[09:03:28] <mrpackethead> maybe mrhobbithead
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[10:11:46] <av500> our netgear gigabit router decided to perform harakiri
[10:12:28] <woglinde> netgear haha lol
[10:12:38] <woglinde> you deserved it
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[10:13:16] <av500> woglinde: yes
[10:13:32] <av500> from one moment to the next it went fubar, blinking a led that says "firmware corrupt" :)
[10:13:49] <av500> at least we got a new one 1 day later
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[10:14:20] <av500> we are now looking at a 1k??? thing that can aggregate all our internet
[10:15:07] <woglinde> good luck
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[10:38:10] <jackmitchell> file
[10:38:59] <av500> folder
[10:42:05] <woglinde> failed
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[11:03:50] <mirelsol_> hello, I'm trying to send bytes from a BeagleBone to an Arduino Mega over I2C. I use this to send data from the BB : i2cset -y 3 0x20 255
[11:04:10] <mirelsol_> but every time I get this error : Write failed
[11:04:28] <mirelsol_> How could I debug what's going wrong?
[11:05:04] <koenkooi> scope or Logic analyzer
[11:05:13] <Russ> check the address and if you are properly using a 7 bit address
[11:05:20] <koenkooi> or check with i2cdetect
[11:05:28] <Russ> (are you sure it isn't 0x10?)
[11:05:52] <mirelsol_> Russ: on the arduino part I defined the slave address : 0x20
[11:06:05] <Russ> is that an 8 bit address or 7 bit address?
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[11:06:36] <mirelsol_> Russ: how can I know that?
[11:07:49] <Russ> http://www.totalphase.com/support/kb/10039/
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[11:22:35] <mirelsol_> Russ: thanks for the link. I'm using a 7-bit address on the Arduino part
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[11:26:05] <tsjsieb> Goodmorning
[11:26:56] <tsjsieb> s**t, I stayed to long at 2.6.31... I missed the whole DeviceTree thing...
[11:27:04] <av500> :)
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[11:28:00] <mirelsol_> koenkooi: using i2cdetect -y -r 3, I get these lines
[11:28:03] <tsjsieb> But it looks promising and maintainable
[11:28:04] <mirelsol_> 10: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- UU -- -- -- --
[11:28:14] <mirelsol_> 50: -- -- -- -- UU UU UU UU -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
[11:28:29] <mirelsol_> doesn't understand what this means :-(
[11:29:06] <av500> it means the storm blew a lot of shindles from your roof
[11:29:24] <tsjsieb> :D lol
[11:29:26] <Jacmet> mirelsol_: that kernel drivers are bound to address 0x1b, 0x54, 0x55, 0x56, 0x57
[11:29:54] <mirelsol_> Jacmet: ok thanks
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[11:31:53] <tsjsieb> av500: you made my day!
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[11:32:21] <av500> tsjsieb: glad to have been of service
[11:32:31] <tsjsieb> It costed a few seconds until I saw it,... but yes!
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[11:34:18] <mirelsol_> if my pull-up resistors are wrong I can't receive any data but I shouldn't have a "write failed" error, right?
[11:35:30] <Russ> well you won't get an ack from the address
[11:35:40] <Russ> so how could the write succeed?
[11:35:58] <mirelsol_> Russ: right :-)
[11:36:01] <Russ> mirelsol_, read the manpage
[11:36:09] <Russ> I'm sure it tells you what UU means
[11:36:28] <mirelsol_> Russ: found it out : Jacmet> mirelsol_: that kernel drivers are bound to address 0x1b, 0x54, 0x55, 0x56, 0x57
[11:37:01] <av500> Russ: http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/man/i2cdetect
[11:37:09] <av500> I lol'ed at this
[11:37:42] <av500> ah
[11:37:43] <av500> http://linux.die.net/man/8/i2cdetect
[11:37:46] <av500> this one is better
[11:38:09] <av500> it should get a higher search rank
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[11:47:18] <panto> av500, want me to start railing about i2c?
[11:51:27] <woglinde> panto yes
[11:52:05] <panto> due to being developed for x86 PeeCes it's totally out of place in it's natural habitat
[11:52:27] <panto> every other hardware device is a platform device, but not an i2c client
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[11:52:55] <panto> it's 'special' without a compelling reason to be so
[11:54:57] <woglinde> so i2c on arm suckz?
[11:54:59] <av500> panto: go on
[11:55:36] <panto> err, that's about it... I hate having to do special cases for i2c devices :)
[12:02:16] <mdp> <insert_noun_here> on arm suckz
[12:02:31] <panto> noun=pancakes
[12:02:47] <mdp> panto, oh but it's smbus on peecees ;)
[12:03:10] <panto> blergh
[12:03:52] <panto> tell me again why PCs don't use platform devices like the rest of us smucks?
[12:04:04] <mdp> they do
[12:04:27] <panto> in a different manner
[12:04:31] <mdp> yes
[12:04:52] <mdp> but you can't win an argument when somebody can make the checkbox statement, "yes we do"
[12:04:59] <mdp> ;)
[12:06:17] <mdp> panto, funny thing about smbus is that they often describe it as a "subset" of i2c..yet it standardizes/adds that quick command which allows reliable probing.
[12:06:37] <mdp> in mdp-land..that's considered a superset
[12:07:04] <mdp> but more intel-garbage, what can you do
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[12:17:08] <koenkooi> can DT help here?
[12:17:29] <woglinde> no
[12:17:46] <koenkooi> heretic
[12:18:25] <mdp> SFI ftw
[12:18:27] <tsjsieb> mm, I thought I understand by now that DT is something technical, but it seems to be a little bit religious as well?
[12:18:42] <woglinde> pincontrol for the win
[12:19:08] <ynezz> no pinwars please
[12:19:34] <koenkooi> tsjsieb: DT is being presented as the solution for everything
[12:19:46] <koenkooi> so we poke fun at it
[12:20:01] <ynezz> right, either DT or systemd
[12:20:11] <tsjsieb> I've learned we had Jesus for that? is that outdated by now?
[12:20:16] <tsjsieb> ;)
[12:20:29] * panto feels that since it is Friday should start first
[12:20:34] <panto> DTJesusSystemD
[12:20:49] <ynezz> World 3.0
[12:20:54] <koenkooi> systemdt
[12:21:36] <tsjsieb> Koen, that will be difficult for most dutch technicians, I've never been good with the d / dt thing
[12:22:07] <koenkooi> breadingsheep
[12:22:17] <ynezz> idkfa^Widdt
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[12:28:36] * tsjsieb will know think of DT as Dear Tsjsieb...
[12:29:04] <tsjsieb> Than it start to sound more like a prayer as well
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[13:04:28] <bradfa> morning channel
[13:13:01] * mranostay yawns
[13:13:11] <bradfa> mranostay is up early, no?
[13:13:13] <mranostay> can't sleep
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[13:14:06] <panto> hey punk
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[13:17:13] <woglinde> hi bradfa
[13:17:28] <bradfa> morning woglinde
[13:19:52] <mdp> mranostay: excited about something? :)
[13:20:14] <bradfa> mranostay gets excited?
[13:20:24] <mdp> bad image
[13:20:55] <mdp> it's the big day today. anticipation is building
[13:21:20] <bradfa> well, friday is a big day around here, I can see why even someone like mranostay would get excited :)
[13:21:44] * koenkooi waves from inside the thalys train
[13:21:58] * bradfa waves back at koenkooi
[13:22:17] <bradfa> internet on trains, what will they think of next?
[13:22:20] <koenkooi> I predict this friday will end with beer for me
[13:22:26] <bradfa> +1
[13:22:31] <mdp> we're waiting to see if locutus of borg beats radiation man in the big contest
[13:23:04] <panto> heh
[13:23:21] <mdp> bradfa: passenger trains, what will they think of next?
[13:23:41] <tsjsieb> koenkooi: that'
[13:23:45] <tsjsieb> s a self fulfilling prophecy
[13:23:45] <bradfa> mdp, didn't we remove all our train tracks so we could sit in traffic more?
[13:24:00] <tsjsieb> not really a prediction
[13:29:32] <tsjsieb> koenkooi@cafe { compatible = "grolsch", "hertog-jan"; #size-cells = <24>;interrupt-parent = <&woman>; reg = <0xB33R 2 0xmouth >; };
[13:32:29] <tsjsieb> Would that be correct in DT ?
[13:32:31] * _av500_ waves from inside ICE 14
[13:32:44] <tsjsieb> Or did I forget something with pincontrol?
[13:33:21] <mranostay> _av500_: is it cold there?
[13:33:28] <_av500_> in the train?
[13:33:31] <_av500_> yes
[13:33:33] <_av500_> balmy
[13:34:59] <tsjsieb> I'v seen some things about trainsurfing, but it didn't have much to do with internet on the train...
[13:35:20] <_av500_> its not train internet
[13:35:23] <_av500_> just my mobile
[13:35:40] <koenkooi> compatible = "grolsch,beugel", "leffe,radieusse"
[13:35:41] <koenkooi> if I understand DT correctly
[13:36:44] * koenkooi ponders on the dutch expression "een boompje opzetten"
[13:36:44] <koenkooi> hey av500
[13:37:02] <_av500_> hey koenkooi
[13:37:59] <koenkooi> mobile would have better pingtimes
[13:39:02] <koenkooi> 800ms - 22000ms
[13:39:03] <koenkooi> I guess the train travels so fast the bits don't make it out
[13:39:03] <koenkooi> 59e141f...c350ae0 not-capebus-v20 -> panto/not-capebus-v20 (forced update)
[13:39:03] <koenkooi> oh noes
[13:39:03] <koenkooi> a forced update
[13:39:20] <panto> koenkooi, ugh, sorry about that
[13:39:23] * koenkooi pretends to update out of free will
[13:39:38] <panto> no changes to the patchset, just a rebase to the latest rc
[13:40:35] <koenkooi> panto: that iio patchset makes it seem that it's possible to assign IIO nodes to hwmon using DT
[13:40:44] <koenkooi> so no special IIO clients needed
[13:40:44] <panto> koenkooi, oh yes
[13:40:48] <koenkooi> sounds too good to be true IMHO
[13:41:09] <_av500_> its a trap
[13:41:24] <panto> koenkooi, well, for custom capes like the geiger cape, you might still need the IIO client
[13:41:38] <_av500_> who needs a geiger cape anyway
[13:41:45] <panto> dunno, I have to look at it more carefully
[13:41:48] <_av500_> now, a Giger-cape....
[13:42:09] <panto> _av500_, a Ginger cape would be better
[13:42:22] <_av500_> make it a GinTonic cape
[13:42:31] <mranostay> what use is a ginger cape?
[13:44:16] <mranostay> koenkooi: you guys are weird http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redheadday
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[13:44:23] <koenkooi> oooh, giger cape
[13:44:31] <koenkooi> biomechanoids ftw
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[13:45:07] <panto> ok, never let your significant unit see logs of IRC ok? we're a bunch of weirdos
[13:46:03] <mranostay> it is all M.A.D here with logs :)
[13:46:04] * tsjsieb agrees
[13:46:33] <jsabeaudry> mdp, I have the same problem with private edma than with dmaengine, either the link does not work or the interrupt, here is the pset: http://pastebin.ca/2309468
[13:47:02] <jsabeaudry> mdp, The mmc driver never registers a callback and the spi driver only does dma with one pset
[13:47:26] <jsabeaudry> So my case does not seem to be covered with one of these two
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[13:57:04] <mdp> jsabeaudry: will take a look in a bit..meeting time
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[14:17:26] <jackmitchell> container_of is a pain in the container hole
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[14:44:22] <jackmitchell> can anyone see what is wrong with my container_of function at line 240: http://0bin.net/paste/2eb33f89724047c638b769bb6d81ee23de68d7fd#hRCrxBhE6IEjLOAqP0pHq+Zde1tmvt0eJo49uG17FHE=
[14:44:36] <jackmitchell> GCC Spits: /home/jack/Projects/r0005spi/r0005spi.c:243:36: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type [enabled by default]
[14:44:36] <jackmitchell> /home/jack/Projects/r0005spi/r0005spi.c:243:36: warning: (near initialization for 'work_card') [enabled by default]
[14:46:31] <jackmitchell> ah, no worries
[14:46:42] <jackmitchell> typical, look at it for an hour then as soon as I ask for help I figure it out
[14:46:51] <woglinde> hehe
[14:46:54] <woglinde> thats normal
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[14:47:26] <jackmitchell> it was because I was dynamically allocating the work_struct, once i allocated it at compile time I guess it could then compute the offsets correctly for container_of
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[14:54:07] <jsabeaudry> I need a table 11-16 but for linked param sets
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[15:01:30] <jsabeaudry> If I have a ABSYNC pset with CCNT = 2, do I need to call edma_start twice?
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[15:10:31] <yegorich> Hi! AM335x Starter Kit. AT what voltage WLAN card is working? I mean SDIO signals? 3,3V or 1,8V Board file seems to specify 3,3V, but pullups go to 1,8V
[15:12:01] <mru> no multimeter?
[15:12:42] <mranostay> heh
[15:12:48] <yegorich> mru: osci shows 1,8V
[15:15:11] <_av500_> metric or imperial?
[15:15:17] <mdp> jsabeaudry: you have two param entries as noted in the original paste, right?
[15:15:42] <mdp> jsabeaudry: since your transfer is not dma event driven..you have to manually start each pset
[15:16:00] <mdp> jsabeaudry: I had to do this with my original implementation of memcpy transfer types
[15:16:08] <mdp> as they are s/w initiated
[15:16:50] <mdp> in some transfer sizes cases for arbitrary buffers I would have to build a two part pset
[15:17:12] <mdp> set TCINTEN on both...and in the callback for #1...then start #2
[15:17:38] <mdp> jsabeaudry: you basically have this same use case in your h/w design
[15:18:23] <mdp> if the h/w generated the dmareq based on the fifo threashold _or_ a periodic timer expiration then you could avoid all this
[15:18:47] <mdp> I know we never get to change h/w though ;)
[15:19:36] <mdp> as you can see, this method adds all kinds of s/w latency which may or may not be a concern
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[15:58:50] <jsabeaudry> mdp, Can I just set TCCHEN on all but the last pset ?
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[16:02:34] <woglinde> ~lart spandsp
[16:04:38] <mdp> jsabeaudry: my detailed memory on this is getting vague atm..but, I *think* I recall that chaining using a regular DMA doesn't work automagically with an actual DMA event...but if you used a QDMA (not even supported in the private edma api) then it would.
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[16:05:07] * mdp considers taking notes in the future
[16:05:15] <woglinde> notes rockz
[16:05:34] <mdp> I need an intern to take notez
[16:05:48] <jsabeaudry> mdp, It appears to chain and trigger the interrupt, however I'm not sure the pset gets linked properly
[16:08:10] <woglinde> mdp yes personal assistant
[16:08:50] <jackmitchell> koen, what would be the best way for me to submit a patch to the beagle kernel tree
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[16:11:05] <mdp> jsabeaudry: yeah, I can't remember why, but for some reason I determined that chaining events didn't properly trigger the next pset in the manually triggered case.
[16:11:19] <mdp> jsabeaudry: best I can say is experiment with that.
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[16:11:56] <mdp> I had an interrupt-per each pset method working for arbitrary memcpy transfers..but shelved that code to work all the slave_sg support upstream
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[16:12:15] <mdp> doing to have to revisit and grok that though
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[16:12:39] <mdp> *going
[16:13:07] <mdp> woglinde: my personal assistant only gives orders...does not solve the note taking problem ;)
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[16:14:58] <alan_o> mdp: +1 intern
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[16:15:24] <mdp> alan_o, it seems to be a common need for all of us ;)
[16:15:39] <mdp> bradfa seems to get showered with interns
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[16:16:16] * bradfa scrolls back to see why himself, shows, and interns are all mentioned in the same sentence
[16:16:21] <bradfa> s/shows/showers/
[16:16:39] <bradfa> ah
[16:16:48] * alan_o checks linkedin to see where bradfa works....
[16:16:50] <mdp> I didn't even mention a blue dress
[16:16:52] <bradfa> well, not me per se, so far the interns do Windows programming
[16:17:27] <bradfa> and range testing when it's cold outside
[16:17:32] <bradfa> for the RF stuffs
[16:17:35] <alan_o> mdp: I've gotten handed creeper cards for much less.......
[16:18:10] <mdp> bradfa, and if they're bad at their job you can use them for other types of "range testing". "Let's go shooting...you can hold my targets"
[16:18:27] <bradfa> err, in theory, yes
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[16:18:45] <bradfa> makes up for 200+ MB git repos with only 50 commits
[16:18:47] <mdp> nobody has ever accepted that offer from me when I invite them out ;)
[16:18:50] <mdp> alan_o, indeed
[16:19:08] <bradfa> mdp, NRA bumper sticker on your truck?
[16:19:17] <mdp> hehe
[16:21:10] <bradfa> mdp, you'll be happy to hear the plows came and salted the parking lot this morning, and by "salted" i mean backed the truck up to the line of parked cars, turned on salt shooter and drove away
[16:21:13] <mdp> bradfa, http://goo.gl/7oeVn
[16:21:56] <bradfa> +1
[16:24:23] <mdp> and http://goo.gl/nuAG3
[16:27:25] <mdp> bradfa, I've seen them pull in a parking lot, turn on that radial spreader...and the cars are covered with salt mixture
[16:28:00] <bradfa> heh -> load average: 27.81
[16:28:03] <bradfa> go bone go!
[16:28:07] <bradfa> oh, now over 30
[16:28:37] <mdp> um, we can have Bone Protective Service seize your beaglebones for abuse like that
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[16:28:43] <bradfa> heh
[16:28:53] * mdp contacts the state BPS
[16:29:04] <bradfa> along with my enabling of bkopts this morning, I'm an abusive engineer :)
[16:30:39] <bradfa> program spawns 1 thread to do curl operations every 10 ms and has busy loops and spi_sync() in kernel module :)
[16:31:00] <bradfa> now to hook up the curl ops to Windows program
[16:31:10] <bradfa> goal is to make windows machine start on fire with little $90 board
[16:31:11] <bradfa> :)
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[16:32:42] <mranostay> mru: http://xkcd.com/1015/
[16:34:32] <bradfa> hmmm -> load average: 69.75, 32.32, 14.95
[16:35:26] <bradfa> how high can load average go?
[16:35:36] <mdp> bradfa, you probably keep the bones in a cage at night too...disgusting
[16:36:03] <alan_o> bradfa: load average can go arbitrarily high
[16:36:08] <bradfa> load average can go over 100...
[16:36:16] <bradfa> alan_o, oh joy!
[16:36:18] <alan_o> bradfa: it's the number of processes that are runnable and waiting
[16:36:24] <bradfa> ah, threads count?
[16:36:28] <mdp> BS..it can't exceed 11
[16:36:29] <mranostay> yes
[16:36:43] <bradfa> well, I should be hitting > 1000 load averages then RSN
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[16:38:01] <alan_o> actually, it's not runnable _and_ waiting, it's just runnable
[16:38:40] <alan_o> well, and also uninterruptible, see the uptime(1) page
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[16:42:50] <Jacmet> bradfa: have you otherwise played with any of the emmc features? like the partition stuff, mlc/slc?
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[16:43:15] <bradfa> Jacmet, no, not yet
[16:43:33] <Jacmet> bradfa: ok
[16:43:36] <alan_o> mranostay: did you see the one from wednesday? http://xkcd.com/1167/ I went and looked at that. It's INSANE. People have no life, and that's coming from a guy who's hanging out on #beagle.
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[16:43:41] <bradfa> After I turned on bkopts then I read about it. Not sure having it on is what I will want in the long run :)
[16:44:11] <Jacmet> bradfa: I've just started working on a project using emmc, but haven't gotten to play with it yet
[16:44:29] <Jacmet> and the evil ancient ti vendor tree doesn't support these fancy emmc features anyway :/
[16:44:38] <bradfa> mainline!
[16:44:55] <mdp> mainline!
[16:45:05] <mdp> what was the question?!?
[16:45:26] <mdp> +1 for *evil*
[16:45:27] <Jacmet> mdp: which reminds me, hows't he uboot stuff going? ;)
[16:46:01] <mdp> Jacmet: haven't work it for a day, but will be back to it soon
[16:46:15] <mdp> finishing some edma upstream stuff
[16:46:27] <mdp> deadlines, you know ;)
[16:46:37] <Jacmet> mdp: yeah, I know ;)
[16:46:50] <bradfa> I know this is the wrong channel, but any one know why a Windows 7 system inside VirtualBox would constantly get TCP checksum errors?
[16:46:53] * bradfa not a windows person
[16:47:02] <Jacmet> mdp: I won't be able to work on the 816x stuff the next few days anyway, fosdem + buildroot devs days
[16:47:15] <mdp> ahh, nice..yay fosdem
[16:47:24] <mdp> one conf still on my todo list
[16:47:25] <mdp> enjoy!
[16:47:36] <Jacmet> mdp: thanks
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[16:48:27] <mdp> Jacmet: refactoring things into the omap-common emif support is, um, time-consuming ;)
[16:48:38] <jsabeaudry> bradfa, hmmm it has to do with checksum being computed at the hardware level and no in a virtualbox
[16:48:47] <mdp> Jacmet: and Tartarus is a difficult maintainer to please ;)
[16:49:01] <Jacmet> mdp: heh, you should try wdenx ;)
[16:49:11] <bradfa> jsabeaudry, yeah the checksums are OK if I run wireshark on my linux host but inside virtualbox they're just all 0s
[16:49:12] <mdp> Jacmet: been there, done that. :)
[16:49:28] <bradfa> stupid virtualization...
[16:49:29] <Jacmet> mdp: I bet you still have scars :P
[16:49:48] <jsabeaudry> bradfa, I have had the same problem, however it did not affect anything besides wireshark
[16:50:32] <mdp> Jacmet: I owe wd so much...he's the person that introduced me to Abatron in 2000
[16:50:34] <bradfa> jsabeaudry, ok, I'm trying to debug why a windows .net thing isn't getting my curl HTTP POSTs from the bone
[16:51:06] * Jacmet hasn't used his bdi in years
[16:51:27] <Jacmet> the fact that I don't have any armv7 firmware probably doesn't help
[16:51:35] <mdp> Jacmet: Ruedi at Abatron makes that company, by far, the most amazing test equipment company I've ever worked with
[16:52:57] <mdp> Jacmet: I'm using an ancient rev C BDI2000 on the ti814x u-boot rewrite
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[16:56:05] <bradfa> jsabeaudry, thanks, I'll do some googlin
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[17:00:34] <ka6sox> mdp, I love my BDI-2000
[17:00:54] <mdp> +1
[17:01:06] <mdp> "just works"
[17:01:24] <ka6sox> yup
[17:02:14] <mdp> I don't do bringup board ports regularly any longer so I don't use it often
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[17:02:39] <mdp> rewriting existing driver code just has less need for jtag
[17:02:40] <ka6sox> we do a lot of that.
[17:02:51] <ka6sox> (bringup)
[17:03:01] <mdp> yeah, it was an essential tool when that was mostly what I did..."back in the day" ;)
[17:04:43] <mdp> ka6sox: I once went to a customer site just before I got mine...they had an HP probe and SDS singlestep in windoze
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[17:05:38] <mdp> only had dwarf support..had to hack the 2.2 era kernel and use smb to allow debugging their custom board from that windoze box :(
[17:06:06] <mdp> ka6sox: those were dark days
[17:06:47] <ka6sox> those were the days that try men's souls...
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[17:07:41] <ka6sox> s/try/tried/
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[17:07:45] <koenkooi> bradfa: MSS clamping?
[17:08:02] <mdp> in 2000, that was a real early adopter company..switching from pSOS to linux
[17:09:18] <ka6sox> that is "early"...I think the first "embedded" I did was 2.2ish stuff.
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[17:14:24] <mdp> we had early adopters like Nortel before that..in '99 on VME/cPCI stuff...but that stuff was roughly in the department of a desktop in terms of RAM/CPU..that's why it was immediately possible for people to switch from their RTOS then
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[17:33:14] <_av500_> errived
[17:33:17] <_av500_> arrived too
[17:33:46] <emeb> arrived is so 20th cen. errived is the new hotness.
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[17:34:01] <_av500_> urrived even
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[17:34:41] <djlewis> gm guys
[17:34:48] <emeb> hola djlewis
[17:34:55] <emeb> how's things in AR?
[17:38:14] <bradfa> koenkooi, possibly... I'm still sniffing around. had to stop for a little to eat fish and chips
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[17:50:52] <bradfa> I solved my problem, reboot, uninstall app, reboot, install app, fixed. It's not Windows or VirtualBox fault it's app's fault
[17:50:59] <bradfa> ugh
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[17:58:19] <woglinde> re
[17:58:34] <woglinde> bradfa as always
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[18:00:04] <djlewis> emeb: pretty and cold day.
[18:00:16] <djlewis> emeb: hows things out west?
[18:01:31] <emeb> djlewis: just peachy. Cool mornings, pleasant afternoons. Had some rain last week so everything is clean & green.
[18:01:48] * djlewis sometimes wishes to live out there.
[18:01:56] <emeb> as opposed to the dusty reddish/brown we usually have.
[18:05:54] * mdp throws some gray skies at emeb
[18:06:30] <emeb> mdp: you used to live here, no? You know how likely that is...
[18:06:37] <mdp> emeb, yeah ;)
[18:06:57] <mdp> we *almost* booked a visit to old friends for spring break..but it's not to be
[18:07:06] <emeb> :(
[18:07:33] <emeb> we had almost 2" rain last week - long and slow so almost no flooding.
[18:07:39] <mdp> wow
[18:07:48] <mdp> nice to get it slow
[18:08:04] <emeb> ya
[18:08:18] <mdp> I recall being *shocked* at how quickly those runs filled up when I first moved their in '95
[18:08:32] <emeb> It can really take you by surprise.
[18:08:40] <mdp> let's see...which road was it that ran through the salt river bed back then?
[18:08:48] <emeb> McKellips?
[18:08:50] <mdp> and the people went around the warning signs during monsoon season
[18:08:53] <mdp> yes, that's it
[18:09:01] <mdp> before they put the bridge in a few years later
[18:09:10] <emeb> Yes.
[18:09:13] <mdp> oh also when they released the dams too
[18:09:20] <emeb> Still lots of gully fords that get filled up
[18:09:43] <emeb> and our "stupid motorist" law - folks who go around barriers get to pay for their rescue.
[18:09:46] <mdp> the scottsdale public tv station had this awesome series of videos of monster trucks being swept away along with the morons driving them ;)
[18:10:09] <emeb> yeah - lots of schadenfreude during the rainy season.
[18:10:18] <mdp> emeb, yeah, I love that law..same goes for the morons that walk up squaw peak in high heels with no water
[18:10:52] <djlewis> we need those laws for people here that insist building homes in 100 year flood plain
[18:11:11] <emeb> mdp: lots of hiker rescues lately too. Oh, and Squaw Peak is renamed - not PC. Now it's Piestewa Pk. :)
[18:11:11] <djlewis> and expect taxpayers to buy them a new home in the same spot after.
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[18:11:41] <emeb> djlewis: inorite?
[18:11:43] <mdp> emeb, yeah, I was thinking that when I wrote it..remember hearing that happened :) gotta fix all the evils of the world :)
[18:11:56] <djlewis> 1
[18:13:14] <emeb> mdp: On the one hand it's like overkill, but Piestewa was a native-american woman who was killed serving in the army in the mideast, so it's kind of appropriate.
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[18:13:30] <emeb> Don't hear much complaining about it anymore.
[18:13:37] <mdp> yeah, I remember it getting named for her..remember her whole story
[18:13:44] <mdp> it's just a name
[18:15:02] <emeb> yep. there are real problems to worry about instead.
[18:15:09] <mdp> yep
[18:15:48] <mdp> luckily, nobody cares to address the real problems anywhere ;) so don't feel alone...we have the same morons over here too
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[18:18:15] * mdp remembers to c&p his branchname to avoid another public embarassment
[18:20:06] <wmat> mranostay: congrats!
[18:20:43] <mdp> mranostay, you are no longer just a "famous IRC person" ;)
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[18:32:22] <mranostay> wmat: thanks
[18:32:47] <mdp> mranostay, we're going to get Boris to call you a "famous cape person"
[18:37:11] <woglinde> ~lart spandsp developer for mixing standards
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[18:48:16] <alan_o> koen, mdp: somewhere there's a tool for generating the pinmux stuff to go in the dts right? I thought I heard you mention that in your talk.
[18:48:26] * alan_o is tired of doing it manually
[18:48:55] <alan_o> and I mean the lines like: 0x1a4 0x17 /* mcasp0_fsr.gpio3_19, OUTPUT_PULLUP | MODE7 */
[18:48:55] <mdp> TI has a pinmux tool
[18:49:11] <woglinde> windows
[18:49:12] <alan_o> I used that, but I remember koen saying that "the tool" generated the comment too
[18:49:13] <mdp> Idon't know of anything that generates am33xx dts lines
[18:49:14] <woglinde> I heard
[18:49:25] <mdp> woglinde: it is
[18:53:17] <woglinde> horray
[18:54:12] <mranostay> Windows app?
[18:54:32] <alan_o> is that in the app store?
[18:56:21] <mdp> alan_o, yes, it has a tile-base UI "to fit my lifestyle" ... oooh yeah
[18:56:30] <mdp> pinmux from your winmophone,baby
[18:57:24] <alan_o> koen says: "I have a nice javascript program that parses debugfs on the old kernel and generates device tree fragments for the new kernel."
[18:57:28] <alan_o> so that's the part I remember
[18:57:39] <alan_o> not something general-purpose I guess then.
[18:58:15] <alan_o> hehe, winmophone
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[18:58:42] <alan_o> mdp: why a tile-based interface? shouldn't it have voice recognition with do-what-I-mean?
[18:59:35] <mdp> alan_o, it's a lifestyle thang, you wouldn't understand
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[19:53:59] <jsabeaudry> After running for a while, my gpmc cycle lenght becomes 6x slower? Any idea what can cause this?
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[19:56:28] <bradfa> jsabeaudry, gpmc knows it's friday, time for it to get a beer :)
[19:56:34] <jsabeaudry> Every timing seems to be multiplied by 6, even the cycle2cycle
[20:01:49] <mdp> awesome beer-aware gpmc
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[20:38:33] <jsabeaudry> There is no setting to divide the GPMC_FCLK by 6 so my guess would be that it is a clock upstream that is wrong
[20:42:02] <jsabeaudry> Is it considered risky to run at 720 MHz ?
[20:43:22] <jsabeaudry> Could that cause the problem?
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[21:53:14] <hobbit_scared> did we have a winner?
[21:55:45] <hobbit_scared> we do ..
[21:56:03] <hobbit_scared> congradulations to matt
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[22:08:33] <woglinde> o.O
[22:08:44] <mdp> hobbitses!
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[23:29:14] <jacekowski> have you got a stand on fosdem this year?
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[23:53:02] <hobbit> hobbit is hungry