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  • [00:57:34] <pfefferz> mranostay, what did I do?
  • [00:57:54] <mranostay> pfefferz: post your password :)
  • [00:58:31] <pfefferz> :)
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  • [00:59:59] <yates> well, has anyone seen the bluez BT stack adapted to run on an ARM Cortex A8 (TI Sitara) using the LSR TiWi-ble module?
  • [01:00:29] <mranostay> i see bluetooth flying past my head all the time
  • [01:01:07] <yates> mranostay: not your elbows?
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  • [01:31:22] <yates> anyone?
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  • [01:32:03] <yates> has anyone seen the bluez BT stack adapted to run on an ARM Cortex A8 (TI Sitara) using the LSR TiWi-ble module?
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  • [02:07:20] <yates> well, has anyone seen the bluez BT stack adapted to run on an ARM Cortex A8 (TI Sitara) using the LSR TiWi-ble module?
  • [02:08:23] <mranostay> *ahem* google
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  • [02:10:38] <mranostay> yates: well this for the bone or bbxm?
  • [02:11:20] <thurbad> bluez on arm is nothing special... part of anstrom
  • [02:11:49] <mranostay> angst rom you mean right?
  • [02:11:53] * mranostay pokes koen
  • [02:12:05] <thurbad> yes
  • [02:12:29] <thurbad> spell checky goodness
  • [02:13:06] <yates> yeah, but this module from LSR...
  • [02:13:29] <yates> does the beagle use the WL1271?
  • [02:13:31] <yates> for bt?
  • [02:13:35] <mranostay> yates: well the logic level is 1.8v so that could be a problem for the bone
  • [02:13:43] <mranostay> bluetooth is pretty generic
  • [02:13:53] <yates> it's a combo wifi/bt
  • [02:14:13] <mranostay> bone or bbxm?
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  • [02:14:46] <yates> mranostay: bbxm
  • [02:15:16] <yates> are the bbxm schematics available for public view?
  • [02:15:22] <mranostay> oh then you can use the 1v8 logic
  • [02:15:24] <mranostay> yeah
  • [02:15:30] <mranostay> *ahem* google
  • [02:15:33] <yates> i coulnd't find them
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  • [02:16:59] <yates> really? the "official" schematics are available on the beagle site?
  • [02:17:30] <yates> oh, ok got it.
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  • [02:19:31] <thurbad> that's the nice thing about open design
  • [02:22:49] <yates> so, i see the schematics. apparently the xm does (suprise) NOT come with bt
  • [02:22:54] <yates> so...
  • [02:24:14] <thurbad> pandaboard uses the Ti bt/wiFi, doesn't it?
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  • [02:26:01] <yates> hmm.
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  • [02:31:39] <joel_> DT Overlays using static symbol resolution done. :)
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  • [02:36:29] <yates> yes! pandaboard uses tiwi-ble.
  • [02:36:40] <yates> good good.
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  • [02:45:06] <joel_> bbt
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  • [02:48:04] <prpplague> mranostay: tickets booked, hotel room book, new shirt and shoes, http://youtu.be/ehzeno_m6_Y
  • [02:53:25] <mranostay> prpplague: new t-shirt? :)
  • [02:53:35] <prpplague> hehe
  • [02:53:57] * prpplague does the "suit thing" for interviews
  • [02:54:16] <mranostay> er that is overdressed here
  • [02:55:27] <mranostay> prpplague: i don't even own a suit
  • [02:55:39] <aholler> he might mean such a shirt: http://www.getdigital.de/products/Trollface/lng/en
  • [02:55:53] <prpplague> hehe
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  • [02:56:15] <prpplague> mranostay: i'm old, that is the way i was "brung up"
  • [02:56:59] <thurbad> I nearly got laughed out of one interview for wearing a tie
  • [02:57:12] <mranostay> prpplague: i think my dressing up for an interview is not wearing my SOAD shirt that day :)
  • [02:57:33] <thurbad> as a rulle better over dressed than under
  • [02:57:41] <mranostay> yeah true
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  • [02:57:53] <mranostay> er
  • [02:57:54] * prpplague checks the current temp in the bay area
  • [02:58:28] <prpplague> should be ok with a long sleeve dress shirt
  • [02:59:57] <mranostay> long sleeves even
  • [03:00:35] <mranostay> of course casual dress can go too far
  • [03:00:55] <mranostay> if you wear flip flops to work i wish death on you :)
  • [03:01:57] <thurbad> I wear flip flops to my current job
  • [03:01:59] <thurbad> :P
  • [03:02:11] <mranostay> thurbad: die!
  • [03:02:58] <thurbad> technically teva... so not /quite/ flip flop... but still
  • [03:03:36] <emeb_mac> emeb_mac: wears pyjamas to his job
  • [03:03:59] <thurbad> nice
  • [03:04:48] <prpplague> mranostay: hehe, well my "casual" is a dress shirt and slacks
  • [03:05:11] <mranostay> at least i don't dress like a hipster
  • [03:05:25] <emeb_mac> suits one size too small?
  • [03:05:37] <mranostay> yeah that would be one thing
  • [03:05:46] <mranostay> porkpie hat
  • [03:05:52] <emeb_mac> lol
  • [03:05:56] <mrpackethead_> i am at work in shorts and t-shirt today
  • [03:06:04] <mrpackethead_> the guys down stairs are complaining
  • [03:06:14] <mrpackethead_> that they have their overalls on
  • [03:06:30] <mranostay> what are you sheep farmers in your spare time?
  • [03:06:40] <emeb_mac> got any banjos?
  • [03:06:40] <thurbad> :)
  • [03:06:50] <mrpackethead_> lol.. they are runnign the machines. and they ahve 7 fingers on each hand
  • [03:07:17] <mranostay> 7 fingers would be handy for banjo playing
  • [03:07:43] <mranostay> finally a inbreeding defect that works out
  • [03:07:56] <mrpackethead_> lol, you can type at 280wpm
  • [03:08:27] <emeb_mac> human polydactyls
  • [03:08:55] * emeb_mac has a polydactyl cat - good thing he's too dumb to know what to do with those thumbs.
  • [03:08:57] <Russ> I don't think there is a 7 finger dvorak variant
  • [03:09:19] <thurbad> polydactyl cats tend to be smarter than average
  • [03:09:50] <emeb_mac> this one is just gifted at getting into trouble.
  • [03:09:50] <thurbad> apparently in your case that not a rule
  • [03:10:31] <emeb_mac> we say that when they were handing out brains, he got in line for more toes.
  • [03:10:45] <thurbad> heh
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  • [03:45:32] <mranostay> oh boy stuffs from intelz
  • [03:47:16] <emeb_mac> whadja get?
  • [03:47:59] <emeb_mac> cardboard box! packing peanuts! pink bubble wrap!
  • [03:48:14] <mranostay> ssssh :)
  • [03:53:11] <mranostay> love the loan period section of this agreement
  • [03:53:22] <mranostay> aka never sell this thing
  • [03:53:28] <emeb_mac> awwww - you have to give it back
  • [03:54:35] <mranostay> only if they want it
  • [03:55:16] <emeb_mac> is this like those processor loans that they do for employees? got some buddies who work there who do that.
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  • [04:16:33] <ka6sox> which I doubt they will...
  • [04:16:47] <ka6sox> when i get homze I'll will have to look if Santa brought me a pressie.
  • [04:17:18] <ds2> fish river?
  • [04:18:56] <ka6sox> 2
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  • [04:19:55] <emeb_mac> fishy!
  • [04:21:16] <mdp> kraken river is too scary
  • [04:22:04] <ds2> wonder who goes to Android Builders Summit
  • [04:22:32] <emeb_mac> RELEASE THE FISHY!
  • [04:23:32] <mdp> ds2, android builders!
  • [04:23:42] <mdp> I'm just sayin'
  • [04:23:55] <mdp> emeb_mac: +1
  • [04:25:46] <ds2> wonder if should send in a proposal just for the hell of it
  • [04:27:39] <mranostay> yeah it for my north lab :)
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  • [04:36:42] <yates> why are many of the embedded linux kernels stuck at 2.6 and not something newer?
  • [04:36:54] <prpplague> hehe
  • [04:37:07] <prpplague> yates: there are many reasons
  • [04:37:14] <prpplague> yates: but some of the top ones are
  • [04:37:36] <prpplague> yates: not enough employee resources to update a hardware platforms kernel to a newer verson
  • [04:38:02] <prpplague> yates: newer kernels can introduce sutle new bugs which are bad for a commercial product
  • [04:38:32] <yates> prpplague: well, can't you just grab the kernel source and have at it yourself? i.e., configure and recompile?
  • [04:38:38] <prpplague> yates: companies don't push their device supprot into mainline so it makes it very difficult port their hacks forward to new kernels
  • [04:38:57] <prpplague> yates: only if the company has pushed the support mainline which most don't
  • [04:39:30] <yates> what companies are you referring to? the cpu vendor? board mfr?
  • [04:39:47] <prpplague> yates: all of the above
  • [04:39:56] <prpplague> yates: they build on the failure
  • [04:40:18] <prpplague> yates: it is a long debated topic
  • [04:40:27] <yates> hum..
  • [04:40:44] <ds2> HE HE HE HE HE HE HE
  • [04:41:05] <yates> prpplague: thanks for the education
  • [04:41:19] <mdp> never heard this topic before
  • [04:42:01] <prpplague> hehe
  • [04:42:05] <yates> what kernel does the beagle-xm support?
  • [04:42:19] <emeb_mac> hohohahaheehee
  • [04:42:23] * prpplague wanders off to read a data structure book
  • [04:42:36] <emeb_mac> must be trying to go to sleep
  • [04:43:04] <mdp> prpplague: just read K&R again instead
  • [04:43:39] <yates> prpplague: try Knuth's "Art"
  • [04:44:10] * mdp abandons dmaengine until tomorrow
  • [04:44:12] <mdp> bbt
  • [04:45:46] <ds2> any job that requires you to read a data structure book ain't worth working for
  • [04:46:06] <ds2> let's focus on reality... circuit analysis, phasors, etc
  • [04:46:20] <emeb_mac> phasors? you been watching too much star trek.
  • [04:46:36] <yates> does the beagleboard use the arm cortex A8?
  • [04:46:38] <mranostay> mdp: abandon all hope ye that enter
  • [04:46:45] <emeb_mac> (true quote from one of my dynamics profs in college)
  • [04:48:06] <yates> if so, why do the instructions for the beagleboard here refer to "linux-omap" - that's like the 4460 from TI, right?
  • [04:48:12] <yates> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#Linux_kernel
  • [04:48:49] <ds2> emeb_mac: whatever you spell that... the complex exponential stuff
  • [04:49:10] <yates> Euler's theorem
  • [04:49:28] <emeb_mac> ds2: I know exactly what you mean, but that ME prof didn't.
  • [04:49:53] <ds2> oh okay
  • [04:49:59] <ds2> :)
  • [04:50:11] <ds2> ME's have their own quirks
  • [04:50:11] <yates> ask Cauchy and Riemann.
  • [04:51:02] <yates> if so, why do the instructions for the beagleboard here refer to "linux-omap" - that's like the 4460 from TI, right?
  • [04:51:19] <emeb_mac> is there an echo in here? :)
  • [04:51:36] <ds2> the ECAN is broken
  • [04:52:03] <yates> emeb_mac: i was hoping to find an answer.
  • [04:52:37] <yates> the panda was based on omap but not beagle, unless that was an earlier version. right?
  • [04:53:02] <emeb_mac> yates: the original beagleboard used an OMAP3530 processor
  • [04:53:20] <yates> ah.
  • [04:53:32] <emeb_mac> the DM35xx used on the Beagleboard XM is closely related, even though it's not officially an OMAP.
  • [04:53:51] <ka6sox> kissing cousins?
  • [04:54:04] <ds2> dm37XX
  • [04:54:10] <emeb_mac> derp
  • [04:54:20] <ds2> there is an am35xx part though ;)
  • [04:55:05] <ds2> the am35xx are very similar to the am33xx
  • [04:55:49] <mrpackethead_> 200 different
  • [04:57:11] <yates> the rev3 schematics call it an "OMAP3730"
  • [04:57:46] <ds2> talk to your friendly local TI rep
  • [04:59:14] <yates> i was confyoosed - sorry
  • [04:59:40] <mrpackethead_> tongiths effort will be to try to get the TI ICE to fire up
  • [04:59:48] <yates> the 3730 IS an ARM Cortex A8...
  • [05:00:38] <yates> i'm seeing the acronym "OE" in some of the kernel stuff - what is that?
  • [05:01:03] <yates> mrpackethead_: in-circuit-emulator?
  • [05:01:20] <mrpackethead_> Industrial Communications Engine
  • [05:01:20] <ds2> wouldn't firing an ice melt it?
  • [05:01:28] <mrpackethead_> its like a beagle but different
  • [05:01:47] <ds2> OE is the Obfuscation Engine
  • [05:02:24] <yates> eschew obfuscation
  • [05:03:11] <yates> ds2: were you serious?
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  • [05:06:02] <yates> oh yeah, the DM37x has the ARM plus the TMS320C64x+ core.
  • [05:07:13] <yates> the AM-series don't have the 64x
  • [05:09:14] <mrpackethead_> the AM3359 is a very useful device
  • [05:09:22] <mrpackethead_> when you get your head around the PRUSS
  • [05:11:12] <yates> PRUSS: sounds architecturely similar to the CLA on the TMS320F28x
  • [05:15:12] <yates> i should say, functionally similar
  • [05:15:42] <yates> mrpackethead_: what did you use pruss for?
  • [05:15:55] <mrpackethead_> i have two projects
  • [05:16:00] <mrpackethead_> i'm usin it for
  • [05:17:07] <yates> for example?
  • [05:17:44] <yates> to handle data xfers between the arm and dsp?
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  • [05:18:55] <mrpackethead_> for doign stuff.
  • [05:20:46] <yates> oh, well you da' man
  • [05:20:55] <mrpackethead_> i can't talk about the 2 projects
  • [05:21:06] <mrpackethead_> but there are some good examples
  • [05:23:25] <yates> can you run you own custom 64+ code on the DM37x?
  • [05:31:14] <emeb_mac> of course
  • [05:48:15] * mranostay opens his nixie tube package
  • [05:49:29] <Russ> A NEW PACKAGE!
  • [05:49:46] <emeb_mac> mranostay gets a lot of late deliveries
  • [05:50:32] <mrpackethead_> that is a late late
  • [05:52:52] <ds2> emeb_mac: he shops under bridges
  • [05:53:14] <emeb_mac> ds2: you can find some good stuff there.
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  • [05:53:42] <Russ> mranostay, pics or it didn't happen
  • [05:53:45] <ds2> yes, but they can get rather 'warm'
  • [05:53:50] <Russ> ???
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