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  • [00:14:08] <j_pruim> How do I go about imaging this .tar.gz?
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  • [02:56:27] <prpplague> hmmm
  • [02:56:30] <prpplague> mranostay: you around?
  • [02:57:11] <emeb_mac> a mranostay-free zone
  • [02:57:23] <prpplague> hehe
  • [02:58:37] <emeb_mac> how's tricks prpplague?
  • [02:58:45] <alan_o> w00t prpplague
  • [02:59:09] <alan_o> and of course emeb_mac :-D
  • [02:59:15] <emeb_mac> hi alan_o
  • [02:59:29] <prpplague> emeb_mac: it goes
  • [02:59:35] <prpplague> alan_o: hey bud
  • [02:59:50] <emeb_mac> everyone recovering from the first impulse of the winter holiday season?
  • [03:00:22] * emeb_mac is still plowing through the leftovers from xmas-day cooking.
  • [03:00:29] <prpplague> emeb_mac / alan_o question, i need a define for the number of dsi lanes i am going to use, i.e. DSI_LANES_ONE or DSI_LANES_1
  • [03:00:40] <alan_o> prpplague: latter
  • [03:00:41] <prpplague> think it is better to spell the number or use the symbol?
  • [03:00:46] <alan_o> symbol
  • [03:00:54] <emeb_mac> yes
  • [03:01:01] <alan_o> Then it all lines up nice and pretty with DSI_LANES_2
  • [03:01:08] <prpplague> ok thanks, was having a brain cramp on that
  • [03:01:21] * prpplague gets hung up on little details like that sometimes
  • [03:01:39] <emeb_mac> it happens
  • [03:01:43] <alan_o> I think we all do. the good ones anyway. The artists :)
  • [03:02:22] <emeb_mac> for me that's usually a sign that the brain hasn't gotten in the groove yet.
  • [03:02:45] <emeb_mac> gotta get the silly details out of the question, then the flow comes.
  • [03:03:03] <alan_o> emeb_mac: when the caffeine IV gets clogged?
  • [03:03:16] <emeb_mac> heh. something like that.
  • [03:03:40] * emeb_mac usually gets in the groove sometime in mid-late afternoon.
  • [03:04:02] <emeb_mac> then things just happen the way they should, until about dinner time. after that I'm useless. :)
  • [03:07:42] <emeb_mac> this is awesome -> http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2012/11/28/for-winning-the-nobel-prize-niels-bohr-got-a-house-with-free-beer/
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  • [03:10:32] <prpplague> emeb_mac: TI awarded Jack Kilby a $20 savings bond for his invention of the IC.....
  • [03:10:51] <emeb_mac> *eyeroll*
  • [03:12:04] <prpplague> of course he's won the nobel prize since them, but for the first 10 years after his invention that was all he got
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  • [03:14:30] <emeb_mac> twerps
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  • [03:29:18] <prpplague> alan_o / emeb_mac : less magical? https://github.com/prpplague/DSI85-Development/commit/83a2205afc804d53c2ef8d8db4cbea3be8505c73
  • [03:33:55] <emeb_mac> nice. why can't people do that more often?
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  • [03:35:43] <emeb_mac> one guy, whose code I otherwise admire for its simplicity, insists on doing all register bit ranges as uncommented numeric constants. ugh.
  • [03:36:59] <prpplague> emeb_mac: i can understand if you are hacking and debugging, but mainline code should also be readable
  • [03:37:43] * prpplague needs to work on this code some more but has been hacking on it all day....
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  • [03:38:14] <emeb_mac> prpplague: yes. at some point you need to shave the burrs off, apply a nice coat of paint and send it out into the world.
  • [03:39:12] <mranostay> prpplague: i'm here for you man
  • [03:39:18] <mranostay> what's upi?
  • [03:39:19] <mranostay> *up
  • [03:41:06] <prpplague> mranostay: just need some advice on a define alan_o and emeb_mac commented
  • [03:41:19] <prpplague> mranostay: https://github.com/prpplague/DSI85-Development/commit/83a2205afc804d53c2ef8d8db4cbea3be8505c73
  • [03:41:29] <prpplague> mranostay: trying to make that a little less magical
  • [03:46:24] <mranostay> not a fan of switch statements but cleaner than 4 if statements
  • [03:48:24] <CareBear\> don't repeat evaluation of the same expression in multiple conditions
  • [03:48:55] <CareBear\> that's exactly what switch() is for
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  • [03:52:46] <emeb_mac> yeah - I like switch() for some things too. Saw a book on C programming recently that said not to use it - didn't think the argument was convincing.
  • [03:53:44] <mranostay> CareBear\: yes yes :)
  • [03:54:00] <mranostay> people forget that damn break :)
  • [03:55:31] <emeb_mac> seems like throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
  • [03:57:53] * prpplague does a git push and goes to get a beer
  • [03:58:50] <prpplague> git remote add fridge ; git checkout -b glass --track fridge/beer
  • [03:58:59] <emeb_mac> successful git push should always result in a beer.
  • [03:59:25] * prpplague has to work some miracles before monday with this code
  • [03:59:39] <prpplague> ES1.0 of this chip and it has some quirks to it
  • [04:00:15] <emeb_mac> what happens monday?
  • [04:00:27] <prpplague> emeb_mac: prep for CES
  • [04:00:37] <emeb_mac> fun!
  • [04:00:45] <emeb_mac> booth demo?
  • [04:02:04] <prpplague> hopefully
  • [04:02:10] <prpplague> using an omap4 pandaboard
  • [04:03:14] <emeb_mac> cool.
  • [04:05:20] * mranostay goes off to clean a few items
  • [04:09:22] <prpplague> mranostay: thanks for the feedback!
  • [04:10:56] <wmat> prpplague: get hacking
  • [04:13:19] <prpplague> wmat: hehe
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  • [04:25:38] <wmat> wtf, that HardKernel board is the top item on HackerNews. I swear it was on there a month ago as well.
  • [04:29:14] <emeb_mac> cute board. Allwinner?
  • [04:30:43] <emeb_mac> nope - Samsung
  • [04:37:30] <emeb_mac> too bad it's got no gpio, etc.
  • [04:44:03] <prpplague> wmat: hehe
  • [04:48:25] <emeb_mac> I guess everyone wants to make the next rpi.
  • [04:55:29] <W1N9Zr0> an armv5 board for just $10?
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  • [06:25:52] <XMPPwocky> http://www.twitch.tv/XMPPwocky So I'm going to be livestreaming myself coding an OS, from scratch, using only JTAG peek-and-poke
  • [06:26:43] <XMPPwocky> multitasking, multiuser, VM, possibly FS
  • [06:27:11] <XMPPwocky> 10:30AM +/-30m PST
  • [06:38:03] <Russ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogPZ5CY9KoM
  • [06:40:10] <XMPPwocky> LOL
  • [06:40:17] <XMPPwocky> i'm going to be talking about it as I go, of course
  • [06:46:12] <emeb_mac> Russ: most excellent reference.
  • [06:49:01] <Russ> always enjoyed the flying circus and what not as a kid
  • [06:58:04] <mranostay> hey old people
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  • [07:01:14] <emeb_mac> mranostay: vacate my greensward
  • [07:02:30] <mranostay> emeb_mac: not while i'm cleaning firearms :P
  • [07:03:13] <mranostay> on that note anyone that edits a file in Windows and commits it should be shot...
  • [07:03:21] <mranostay> ^M^M^M^M all over the place
  • [07:06:59] <emeb_mac> dos2unix man.
  • [07:07:08] <mranostay> yes i do that
  • [07:07:41] <mranostay> old repos in CVS
  • [07:08:50] <mranostay> never seen a 2.6.27 kernel in CVS before this job
  • [07:09:16] <emeb_mac> did it have spiderwebs on it?
  • [07:09:53] <mranostay> i would smack this 'programmer' but he left..
  • [07:10:30] <mranostay> i never say i'm a great coder but i know what not to do
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  • [07:19:44] <panto> hi
  • [07:20:51] <emeb_mac> trollopants?
  • [07:21:17] <panto> larger than regular pants
  • [07:21:25] <mranostay> married life will do that
  • [07:32:44] <mranostay> panto: so you review my PRU code? :)
  • [07:32:58] <mranostay> did you notice i used every register except one? :)
  • [07:33:17] <panto> no
  • [07:33:55] <panto> I do have my own work to do
  • [07:34:27] <panto> when I get around to reviewing thoroughly I'm sure I'll find a bunch of serious mistakes and I will make sure to disparage you publicly for them
  • [07:34:38] <panto> you don't have to thank me :)
  • [07:34:53] <mranostay> we are friends, because? :)
  • [07:35:14] <mranostay> panto: hey at least i didn't do in python :P
  • [07:35:21] <mranostay> *it
  • [07:36:13] <mranostay> i think my code loses 3 ticks per second.. so at 200 mhz clock.. :)
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  • [07:46:03] <mranostay> ka6sox: never heard of lovecraft? how is that even possible?
  • [07:47:27] <thurbad> fthat's almost as bad as never heard of gary gygax :P
  • [07:48:02] <ka6sox> mranostay, I've probably read other authors you have never heard of either....:P
  • [07:48:06] * mranostay googles
  • [07:48:25] <mranostay> ka6sox: haven't read anything by him but i know of him
  • [07:48:37] <mranostay> <-- doesn't like sci fi at all
  • [07:49:00] <thurbad> lovecraft influenced movies... like hellboy
  • [07:50:30] <mranostay> never seen
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  • [08:01:42] <ka6sox> I am not a Horror Fan...
  • [08:02:00] <ka6sox> Sci-Fi...sure...Straight Horror..not so much...
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  • [08:07:17] <mranostay> there is Gay Horror?
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  • [08:09:00] <mranostay> hey
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  • [08:10:43] <ka6sox> I love Cats....but all throughout "Alien" I kept saying (and I guess verbalizing out loud....) "Just Forget the Cat"...
  • [08:11:12] <mranostay> cats never die... :)
  • [08:11:26] <mranostay> panto: per another channel :)
  • [08:12:03] <ka6sox> mranostay, is it that 9 lives thing or something else?
  • [08:13:03] <mranostay> ka6sox: this cat is 13-14 years old.. and i got it when i moved out since she didn't bite me the most :)
  • [08:13:10] <mranostay> she has tamed down a bit
  • [08:14:57] <ka6sox> does that mean she no longer takes you down and slices you to ribbons when you come home?
  • [08:16:16] <mranostay> no claw so that isn't a issue.. unless she has some ninja back claw move
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  • [09:45:30] <_av500_> morn
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  • [09:58:43] <panto> hi _av500_
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  • [11:19:20] <calibri> Hi all, i cross compilied kernel and file system for beaglebone to boot from nand flash, so that i enabled mtd driver and nand driver but i didn't get mtd devices in /dev directory.nand has partitioned in the board file.i could not understand what went wrong.
  • [11:19:55] <calibri> what to do? to solve this.
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  • [11:34:22] <_av500_> and what nand did you connect?
  • [11:43:04] <calibri> NAND device: Manufacturer ID: 0x98, Chip ID: 0x39 (Toshiba NAND 8MiB 1,8V 8-bit)
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  • [12:05:37] * bradfa pokes mranostay quite a while later...
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  • [12:11:23] <_av500_> bradfa: poor kid needs to sleep
  • [12:12:01] <bradfa> _av500_, he's young, caffeine should suffice :)
  • [12:19:44] <_av500_> true
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  • [15:29:21] <osfameron> afternoon
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  • [17:45:29] <_av500_> mranostay: you can wake up now
  • [17:47:42] <woglinde> no
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  • [17:55:53] <ka6sox-away> let sleeping dogs lie
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  • [18:12:47] <emeb> I suppose sleeping dogs rarely tell the truth
  • [18:14:30] <XMPPwocky> http://twitch.tv/XMPPwocky I'm livestreaming myself writing an OS from scratch for the BeagleBone... no assembler or compilers, just bootstrapping from JTAG peeks and pokes
  • [18:15:08] <XMPPwocky> in about 15 minutes I'll get started
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  • [18:16:37] <mranostay> who is all up for a group hug?
  • [18:17:01] <emeb> a group _bear_ hug?
  • [18:17:22] <XMPPwocky> bare hug? :O
  • [18:17:36] <mranostay> lets not go there this early :)
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  • [18:21:32] <mdp> bare arms hugging bears
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  • [18:31:40] <_av500_> mdp: +1
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  • [18:40:37] <Crofton|work> well, I finally found a use for my cheap endoscope
  • [18:40:50] <Crofton|work> I will be lowering it into my below ground fuel oil tank ....
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  • [18:44:05] <mranostay> Crofton|work: is there any gadget you don't have? :)
  • [18:44:28] <Crofton|work> yes
  • [18:44:33] <Crofton|work> a good endoscope
  • [18:44:43] <Crofton|work> lighting will be an issue
  • [18:45:04] <Crofton|work> this is a cheap one from one of those online deal places
  • [18:45:22] <mranostay> how often do you use a endoscope?
  • [18:45:33] <Crofton|work> this will be the first time
  • [18:45:40] <Crofton|work> I'll post the video
  • [18:46:44] <mranostay> to the internetz?
  • [18:47:44] <mdp> bradfa: get your fpga book yet?
  • [18:50:56] <mranostay> emeb: hey fpga pr0n time ^
  • [18:51:43] <_av500_> Crofton|work: for lighting, dont throw matches down the hole
  • [18:51:51] <_av500_> use a candle on a string
  • [18:52:42] <mranostay> Crofton|work: can i have your spectrum analyzer if you blow up?
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  • [18:54:08] <Crofton|work> if I am not back in thirty miuntes, call 911
  • [18:54:25] <mranostay> you didn't answer my question :P
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  • [18:55:46] <mdp> mranostay, hehe
  • [18:58:00] <emeb> mranostay: mdp: bradfa: what's the book?
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  • [19:02:41] <Crofton|work> the word useless pairs well with this endoscope
  • [19:03:27] <mranostay> dammit you are alive.. i mena :)
  • [19:03:28] <mranostay> *mean
  • [19:03:41] <mranostay> Crofton|work: tape a flashlight on it :)
  • [19:04:29] <mdp> emeb, I suggested fpga prototyping by vhdl examples to him..as a hands on approach
  • [19:04:41] * mranostay waits to hear Crofton|work cuss that he dropped a flashlight into his fuel oil tank
  • [19:06:31] <mdp> emeb, well, he had heard of the verilog variant of the same book and was considering that one
  • [19:06:59] <mdp> imho, what's covered is mostly independent of which you choose anyway
  • [19:11:58] <emeb> mdp: haven't seen either of those books.
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  • [19:12:58] <mdp> emeb, it's nice for a beginner...simple template for the code part and emphasis on how to do real stuff
  • [19:13:00] <mranostay> verilog looks like greek to me :)
  • [19:14:12] <emeb> mdp: sounds good
  • [19:14:45] <emeb> mranostay: verilog may be greek, for values of greek that equal AWESOME.
  • [19:15:00] * emeb shows his bias against VHDL
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  • [19:19:22] <mranostay> emeb: ok that is like comparing latin and greek to me now :)
  • [19:20:43] <emeb> haha
  • [19:21:20] <emeb> mranostay: if you know C then you can probably parse Verilog. if you know ADA you can probably parse VHDL.
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  • [19:22:33] <mranostay> mdp: can atest i only know python and javascript
  • [19:23:36] <emeb> I'd bet someone has probably designed an HDL around either of those two languages. Probably not well supported tho
  • [19:26:20] <Russ> emeb, bah, heathen, thou shalt come to know the one and true hdl, verilog
  • [19:26:20] <bradfa> mdp, mranostay, no not yet, been busy with holidays and work
  • [19:26:24] <bradfa> maybe sometime in 2013
  • [19:27:08] <bradfa> emeb, I can parse Verilog and hack at it, I just am mostly hacking in the dark and I'm looking for some structured learning
  • [19:27:08] <mranostay> Russ: holy war?
  • [19:27:15] <mranostay> KotH: poke ^
  • [19:27:29] <bradfa> mranostay, vim verilog!
  • [19:27:37] <bradfa> holy war, GO
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  • [19:27:41] <Russ> eh
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  • [19:29:10] <bradfa> At my last job all the research people were VHDL on Xilinx, everything in production was Verilog on Atlera. Suits then had bright idea to simply take what research did and make it a product, much entertainment ensued
  • [19:29:21] <emeb> Russ: You misunderstand - verilog is my favorite HDL
  • [19:29:32] <bradfa> I wrote some java
  • [19:29:37] * bradfa belches
  • [19:30:08] <emeb> bradfa: awesome.
  • [19:30:19] <emeb> (story)
  • [19:30:31] <KotH> JIHAD?!?
  • [19:30:47] <_av500_> +1
  • [19:30:52] <mranostay> KotH: thank you
  • [19:30:53] <bradfa> KotH, Just Idiots Hardware Advanced Description?
  • [19:31:02] <_av500_> +2
  • [19:31:09] <KotH> rotfl
  • [19:31:27] <bradfa> JIHAD! Now with exact steps!
  • [19:31:38] <_av500_> Javascript Is Hot, Awesome and Dangerous
  • [19:31:42] <bradfa> +1
  • [19:31:45] <mranostay> -1
  • [19:31:50] <_av500_> *1
  • [19:31:50] <KotH> emeb: i know both c and vhdl and a bit of verilog, but reading verilog is always difficult for me...
  • [19:32:06] <_av500_> iLog ftw
  • [19:32:20] <_av500_> I heard the new aapl cpu is done with it
  • [19:32:51] <_av500_> and it will have a brushed metal interconnect layer
  • [19:33:07] <_av500_> on a faux leather interposer
  • [19:33:11] <mdp> emeb: I wish I could have a strong opinion on either vhdl or verilog...something I can bash people with :)
  • [19:33:12] * KotH would like to know where av500 gets his "news"from
  • [19:33:33] <_av500_> KotH: where the weather gets its current temperatures from
  • [19:33:40] <KotH> mdp: oh, that's easy. learn vhdl and then bash verilog people ;)
  • [19:33:40] <_av500_> /dev/random
  • [19:34:01] <_av500_> I heard VHDL was the standard
  • [19:34:09] <emeb> KotH: mdp: _av500_: don't forget iHDL - intel's own internal HDL that they used to design a lot of x86 processors.
  • [19:34:14] <KotH> av500: so is verilog
  • [19:34:20] <mdp> _av500_, forget your quotes? ;)
  • [19:34:27] <mranostay> christ can intel ever not do there own thing?
  • [19:34:29] <emeb> apparently they used MS Word macros to compile it.
  • [19:34:33] <mdp> emeb, I'm happy with the two standards ;)
  • [19:34:40] <mranostay> emeb: you are kidding right?
  • [19:34:45] <mranostay> please tell me your are kidding
  • [19:35:06] <emeb> mranostay: not kidding. That's what I heard when working at the big I.
  • [19:35:07] <mdp> lol..word macros
  • [19:35:12] <_av500_> for the 4004 it was wordstar macros
  • [19:35:14] <emeb> never saw it for myself though.
  • [19:35:35] <mdp> _av500_, I can see it all stored on 8" floppies now
  • [19:35:38] <_av500_> mdp: oops, here: """"""""
  • [19:36:58] <mranostay> ok i don't think anyone can top emeb for the day
  • [19:38:07] <mdp> emeb, funniest comment I've seen in FOSS circles re: VHDL was about GHDL and complaining about is being written in Ada95...all while not understanding "why".
  • [19:38:12] <emeb> fwiw - the non-x86 parts of the company used verilog & std tool flows.
  • [19:38:26] <emeb> mdp: derp
  • [19:38:43] <bradfa> I hear Ada's the future
  • [19:38:55] <mdp> bradfa, past, present, future.
  • [19:39:12] <bradfa> mdp, one more thing to go on my book list then :)
  • [19:39:48] <mdp> bradfa, I'll probably take a look at the verilog version too at some point
  • [19:40:01] <KotH> mdp: lol
  • [19:40:05] <mdp> bradfa, but seriously, the concepts are mostly HDL independent
  • [19:40:23] <KotH> mdp: actually, i asked the author of ghdl many many years ago, and he said "because vhdl is so similar" :)
  • [19:40:24] <mdp> they're trying to show how to practically describe stuff
  • [19:40:57] <mdp> KotH: well sure, gnat already parses the same syntax
  • [19:41:11] * mdp wonders if Russ misses Ada ;)
  • [19:41:39] * _av500_ wonders if a HDLDL is needed?
  • [19:41:44] * mranostay googles what Ada syntax looks like..
  • [19:41:48] <KotH> mdp: imho, companies doing software for medical devices should be forced to write everything in ada
  • [19:41:55] <_av500_> mranostay: like pascal, but safe
  • [19:42:01] <KotH> mdp: the shit i see that our customers do is frightening
  • [19:42:19] <mranostay> _av500_: hello young guy here... what does pascal look like? :)
  • [19:42:32] * KotH throws a wirth at mranostay
  • [19:42:41] <mdp> KotH: all I can say is that we had a a major .us medical company as a client once...and OMG OMG OMG they were _morons_
  • [19:42:47] <_av500_> mranostay: it ends with a .
  • [19:43:04] <KotH> mdp: they are all the same... all the same... :-(
  • [19:43:28] <mdp> KotH: a complete lack of understand of how to write Qt/C++/threaded code and debug it
  • [19:43:50] <KotH> mdp: for one of our customers, we've nearly build their complete Q system, but they only follow it partially
  • [19:44:03] <KotH> mdp: and they are iso 13485 certified :-(
  • [19:44:14] <mdp> although I just had a friend consulting with an industrial company in my area and he says they are morons too ;) they're rocking like 2700 threads and java in their system and failing miserably
  • [19:44:14] <_av500_> iso 12345?
  • [19:44:20] * emeb suspects that VHDL is a form of cholesterol.
  • [19:44:33] <mdp> _av500_, iso 12345 is the one describing "exact steps"
  • [19:44:39] <_av500_> mdp: 2600 threads? does that emit a certain tone? free phone calls?
  • [19:44:40] <KotH> _av500_: iso9001 for companies that want to do medical
  • [19:45:03] <mdp> _av500_, they selected the number of threads based on a whistle from their cereal box
  • [19:45:05] <mranostay> mdp: hmm i remember that project :)
  • [19:45:17] <mdp> mranostay, they're still failing!!!
  • [19:45:19] <KotH> _av500_: the controls are stricter and yearly, but you can get certified even if you have holes the size of a moon
  • [19:45:25] <mdp> mranostay, everybody is failing! :)
  • [19:45:34] <mranostay> i better not see one of those devices next to my hospital bed btw :)
  • [19:45:50] <_av500_> KotH: I lol'ed at the ISO cert of my wifes company. for her it was a flowchart how to handle a customer request
  • [19:46:06] <_av500_> 1) pick up the phone on the 3rd ring
  • [19:46:23] <mranostay> by the third ring?
  • [19:46:26] <mdp> mranostay, it's better than your life insurance beneficiary standing bedside holding "the cord" ;)
  • [19:46:28] <KotH> _av500_: well, that's what the standards text says: you ought to have a defined process for everything in your company
  • [19:46:33] <_av500_> yes
  • [19:48:40] * KotH face palms at $guy on the local LUG mailinglist... wants to learn asm on an rpi, read a "tutorial" blog post that tells you to pass a hello world asm code trough gcc (!), complains that he doesnt understand half the stuff in the code, but didnt bother to look up the asm syntax because he "didnt want to read a lot of docu before writing any code"
  • [19:49:20] <_av500_> makes sense
  • [19:49:40] <KotH> typical rpi user i'd say
  • [19:49:47] <_av500_> asm is best learned by creating random opcodes and observing CPU state
  • [19:49:56] * mdp imagines RPi assembly
  • [19:49:56] <_av500_> on paper of course
  • [19:50:10] <_av500_> the russians did that and flew to the moon
  • [19:50:32] <KotH> rotfl.. he had a look at an arm11 core TRM and found it confusing
  • [19:50:53] <_av500_> I blame arm for that
  • [19:51:03] <_av500_> confusing poor uk children
  • [19:51:23] <mdp> maybe they'll make an RPi with a MIPS core to fix this
  • [19:51:24] <_av500_> arm 11 should run on Acorn Basic natively
  • [19:51:39] <KotH> apropos
  • [19:51:53] <KotH> is there any arm equivalent of the "see mips run linux" book?
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  • [19:54:14] <_av500_> ...MIPS is the most elegant among the effective RISC architectures; even the
  • [19:54:16] <_av500_> competition thought so,
  • [19:54:18] <_av500_> ...
  • [19:54:21] <_av500_> nice opening
  • [19:54:44] <_av500_> too bad IMGTEC will make Mips binary only
  • [19:54:45] <mranostay> heh from the book?
  • [19:54:48] <_av500_> yes
  • [19:54:53] <_av500_> its a free pdf
  • [19:56:58] <Russ> mdp, never, ever, do I miss ada
  • [19:57:02] <KotH> the book is actually quite good
  • [19:57:14] <mdp> Russ, oh, how I knew I could get a response ;)
  • [19:57:17] <bradfa> mdp, do you have the Digilent Spartain 3 starter board? or something else?
  • [19:57:24] <KotH> Russ: but she was such a lovely girl! :)
  • [19:57:38] <mdp> bradfa, I actually do have that board...
  • [19:57:48] <mdp> bradfa, the old one even :)
  • [19:57:59] <bradfa> mdp, worth buying it if I get the book? or should I look for some other Spartan board?
  • [19:58:09] <bradfa> I want to do the soft core examples
  • [19:58:09] <KotH> bradfa: if you need a spartan3 board, i would recomend OGD1
  • [19:58:11] <mdp> I think it's still useful
  • [19:58:15] <KotH> bradfa: there are still some available
  • [19:58:26] <mdp> I just happened to have this one for free so I continue to use it
  • [19:58:28] <bradfa> KotH, thanks, I'll take a look
  • [19:58:51] * KotH has one, never used it though
  • [19:59:27] <bradfa> KotH, you mean the OGD1 that's >$1000?
  • [19:59:29] <emeb> could also consider a Papilio.
  • [19:59:32] <bradfa> or is my googling failing me
  • [19:59:36] <emeb> https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11158
  • [19:59:44] * mdp seconds Papilio
  • [19:59:56] <bradfa> I saw the Papilio this morning, looks neat
  • [20:00:01] <bradfa> reasonable price, too
  • [20:00:02] <mdp> bradfa, but if you are aiming at cpu work there are better boards than Papilio for that
  • [20:00:15] <bradfa> I just want something with Spartan and some SDRAM
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  • [20:00:26] <bradfa> so I can do some of the examples
  • [20:00:37] <bradfa> then I'm going to buy either an OpenRISC board or a DE0-nano
  • [20:00:50] <bradfa> of course, this assumes the wife allows me to buy more dev kits...
  • [20:01:49] <KotH> bradfa: nah.. got mine for 750
  • [20:01:59] <emeb> *choke*
  • [20:02:13] <KotH> bradfa: the >1000 price is for comercial stuff, oss people get it cheaper :)
  • [20:02:13] <bradfa> KotH, I can hide $5 launchpad on the credit card, $750 would be a bit harder
  • [20:02:26] <bradfa> <$100 is preferred
  • [20:02:48] <KotH> *g*
  • [20:02:55] <_av500_> bradfa: I can hide your credit card :)
  • [20:02:57] <KotH> bradfa: but you would support the opengraphics project!
  • [20:03:16] <bradfa> KotH, I would, if I had $750!
  • [20:03:19] <emeb> bradfa: the digilent nexsys 2 isn't bad
  • [20:03:31] <emeb> got a reasonably sized spartan 3 and some RAM
  • [20:03:34] <KotH> bradfa: let me guess, you are a pennyles student?
  • [20:03:43] <bradfa> KotH, pennyless parent
  • [20:04:06] <KotH> bradfa: what have your parents to do with that?
  • [20:04:13] <bradfa> I'm the pennyless parent
  • [20:04:19] <KotH> oh..
  • [20:04:23] <bradfa> just bought x-mas presents for the kiddo
  • [20:04:23] <KotH> my condolences
  • [20:04:31] <KotH> a steammachine?
  • [20:04:38] <bradfa> ball pit
  • [20:04:42] <bradfa> well, a little one
  • [20:04:51] <KotH> not geeky enough... consider something else
  • [20:05:13] <Phrewfuf> ball pits are effin awesome
  • [20:05:18] <bradfa> +1
  • [20:05:19] <_av500_> bradfa: ball bearing ball pit?
  • [20:05:19] <KotH> ofc, unless you fill a complete room
  • [20:05:29] <ka6sox> ballpits are amazing...
  • [20:05:40] <mdp> bradfa, http://www.xess.com/prods/prod055.php
  • [20:05:45] <KotH> bradfa: http://xkcd.com/150/
  • [20:06:12] <mranostay> bradfa: for shame you don't have a secret credit card? :)
  • [20:06:28] <mdp> mranostay, and a sekrit apartment in "the city"
  • [20:06:28] <_av500_> or a paypal
  • [20:06:32] <bradfa> mdp, ooooo!
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  • [20:06:57] <Russ> 'Do even more DSP!'
  • [20:07:27] <mdp> bradfa, that's what I mean about the difference between Papilio and say XuLA2
  • [20:07:54] <mdp> you can do different things with each...wider community around the more generalized Papilio One
  • [20:08:03] <KotH> bradfa: http://tristesse.org/FPGA/CheapFPGADevelopmentBoards
  • [20:09:06] <mdp> bradfa, yeah, and immediately eliminate anything with kickstarter next to the entry
  • [20:09:08] <ka6sox> XC6 is nice
  • [20:09:38] <mranostay> heh
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  • [20:20:56] <KotH> mdp: whats bad about the kickstarter stuff?
  • [20:21:21] <mranostay> they never deliver
  • [20:21:37] <KotH> ah.. unfinished kickstarter stuff
  • [20:21:52] <KotH> well, they promise you to deliver in case they ever get the money
  • [20:27:39] <bradfa> KotH, mdp, thanks, I'll have a look
  • [20:29:02] <mranostay> KotH: this decade? :)
  • [20:29:43] <KotH> mranostay: they never said when
  • [20:29:58] <KotH> mranostay: or whether they intend to keep their promise
  • [20:30:26] <bradfa> mdp, the xess boards look like something I'd want, I wonder if I can boot Linux on OpenRISC in 8 MB of RAM...
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  • [20:30:43] <bradfa> sounds like a fun challenge, should be possible without much work
  • [20:31:10] <bradfa> heck, Debian only consumes about 9 MB on my bone and that's running quite a few services
  • [20:37:13] <KotH> i think the minimum ram requirement of the kernel was raised to 4mb a couple of years ago
  • [20:37:22] <KotH> anything above that should be fine
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  • [20:38:22] <KotH> stahl|lab: that should be "forge" not "lab" ;-)
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  • [20:40:52] <stahl|forge> :D
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  • [20:53:04] <ka6sox> mranostay, you scared him off
  • [20:54:15] <mranostay> ka6sox: boo!
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  • [21:01:51] <mdp> bradfa, go to the XuLA2 and don't worry about it.
  • [21:02:23] <bradfa> mdp, k, I like the StickIt! breakout, too
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  • [21:02:47] <mdp> bradfa, yes! :)
  • [21:02:56] <bradfa> probably will get that and the vga & ps2 modules to go with the verilog / vhdl book
  • [21:03:00] <mdp> notice the convenient header orientation too
  • [21:03:03] <bradfa> since they have exercises for both those
  • [21:03:55] <MZXGiant> Good afternoon; I installed Ubuntu Quantal from the rcn-ee site on my BeagleBone and I'm trying to get the 3.1MP camera cape working. I do see the cssp_cam succeed (and the cape is detected), but I don't see a /dev/video0 for it, and when I modprobe in mt9t112, it gives me a "No such device" error.
  • [21:04:44] <MZXGiant> I'm used to using v4l cameras, so it's possible I'm just misunderstanding what the dev entry should look like, as well :)
  • [21:06:27] <mdp> bradfa, btw, if you want to start with a simpler foss cpu, I suggest looking at the zpu as it's a zero operand unit...woefully simple 32-bit core
  • [21:06:43] <mdp> I found it easier to follow than OR1k
  • [21:06:46] <bradfa> mdp, k, will keep in mind
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  • [21:06:59] <bradfa> mdp, mostly I'm going to start with the 8 bit picoblaze in the book
  • [21:07:02] <bradfa> I think that's the name
  • [21:07:12] <bradfa> then I'll work up to 32 bits :)
  • [21:07:48] <bradfa> mdp, I assume you don't mean this 'zpu' -> The ZPU is a towed anti-aircraft gun based on the Soviet 14.5 mm KPV heavy machine gun.
  • [21:07:54] <mdp> yeah, doesn't hurt to start there..that's what I went back to as well
  • [21:08:01] <mdp> bradfa, no :)
  • [21:08:03] <_av500_> MZXGiant: not sure this is a v4l2 device
  • [21:08:08] <mdp> but that ZPU sounds quite awesome too
  • [21:08:16] <_av500_> wiki says nothing about how its accessed
  • [21:08:21] <MZXGiant> _av500_; Nor am I, but to that point, I'm not sure how to access it
  • [21:08:22] <MZXGiant> Yeah :P
  • [21:08:35] <_av500_> MZXGiant: hmm
  • [21:08:41] <_av500_> its supposed to work with cheese
  • [21:08:42] <mdp> bradfa, http://opensource.zylin.com/zpu.htm
  • [21:08:43] <_av500_> thus v4l2
  • [21:08:43] <MZXGiant> The pdf guides talk about the kernel integration but don't make much mention of how to poke at it
  • [21:08:52] <_av500_> so it should be v4l2
  • [21:08:56] <bradfa> mdp, yeah, that was the next google result :)
  • [21:09:07] <bradfa> along with opencores
  • [21:09:37] <mdp> bradfa, ok, unbelievable...how do you use google so efficiently and so few others can do the same?
  • [21:09:44] <_av500_> he pays for it
  • [21:09:45] <mdp> unpossible
  • [21:09:54] <bradfa> like _av500_ I have a paid account
  • [21:09:54] <mdp> aha, "Google Premium"
  • [21:10:02] * mdp hacks bradfa's premium account
  • [21:10:15] * bradfa says ouch
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  • [21:10:29] <MZXGiant> _av500_; "modprobe v4l2-common" comes up with the little splash message in dmesg
  • [21:10:38] <MZXGiant> ("Linux video capture interface: v2.00")
  • [21:10:39] <_av500_> thats just v4l2 common
  • [21:11:08] <MZXGiant> Hm. No v4l2 module... I guess I was just assuming it was built into the kernel
  • [21:11:18] <MZXGiant> (since v4l2-common didn't complain)
  • [21:12:56] <_av500_> and you run a newer image
  • [21:13:00] <_av500_> as said in the wiki?
  • [21:13:11] <MZXGiant> got http://rcn-ee.net/deb/rootfs/quantal/ubuntu-12.10-r2-minimal-armhf-2012-11-29.tar.xz
  • [21:13:15] <MZXGiant> (straight out of the wiki page)
  • [21:13:56] <MZXGiant> I installed the lxde desktop using the instructions also straight out of the wiki, if it matters :P
  • [21:16:07] <_av500_> er
  • [21:16:29] <_av500_> who said ubuntu has support for that camera?
  • [21:16:34] <_av500_> angstrom has
  • [21:16:41] <_av500_> and that is what the wiki mentions
  • [21:16:56] <MZXGiant> ffff =/
  • [21:17:14] <MZXGiant> So it has some magical kernel patch that the Ubuntu image doesn't
  • [21:17:15] <MZXGiant> darn
  • [21:17:25] <_av500_> it might not be magical
  • [21:17:29] <_av500_> but still needed
  • [21:17:36] <_av500_> why would ubunut know about this camera?
  • [21:17:45] <MZXGiant> I saw the kernel patch from the manufacturer
  • [21:17:52] <MZXGiant> referencing all the cssp_camera calls that they added
  • [21:17:57] <_av500_> sure
  • [21:18:00] <MZXGiant> and those calls all succeed according to dmesg
  • [21:18:07] <_av500_> so you have that driver?
  • [21:18:12] <_av500_> in bunut?
  • [21:18:12] <MZXGiant> cssp_camera, yes
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  • [21:19:49] <MZXGiant> _av500_; http://pastebin.com/t6RERuXd
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  • [21:20:23] <_av500_> ah ok
  • [21:20:27] <_av500_> then
  • [21:20:33] <_av500_> no idea
  • [21:20:37] <MZXGiant> Heh :)
  • [21:20:38] <_av500_> still, try angstrom first
  • [21:20:56] <MZXGiant> Angstrom strikes me as a "hobbyist"/"dev" image
  • [21:20:57] <_av500_> as thta is the official one for support
  • [21:21:01] <_av500_> and?
  • [21:21:02] <MZXGiant> correct me if I'm wrong?
  • [21:21:04] <_av500_> you are what?
  • [21:21:06] <_av500_> a pro?
  • [21:21:09] <MZXGiant> lol
  • [21:21:11] <MZXGiant> I'm not a pro
  • [21:21:15] <_av500_> see
  • [21:21:23] <MZXGiant> I'm just the guy configuring one of these for a company that wants to sell things made of them
  • [21:21:42] <_av500_> and?
  • [21:21:54] <_av500_> you want to sell them running ubtuntu?
  • [21:21:57] <MZXGiant> Right now it's in a prototype-y phase, but for the proof of concept, they wanted something a bit more locked down than Angstrom, AFAIK
  • [21:22:04] <_av500_> locked down?
  • [21:22:08] <MZXGiant> Not really. I'm following a requirements document.
  • [21:22:10] <MZXGiant> :P
  • [21:22:10] <_av500_> as in?
  • [21:22:49] <MZXGiant> The way they put it, they wanted it totally isolated for shipping
  • [21:22:57] <_av500_> buzzwords
  • [21:23:04] <MZXGiant> Not my buzzwords.
  • [21:23:04] <Crofton|work> Angstrom/OE-core based systems are much easier to lockdown than ubuntu
  • [21:23:21] <_av500_> wtf does lockdown even mean?
  • [21:23:33] <Crofton|work> go read www.yoctoproject.org
  • [21:23:49] <Crofton|work> that is a good site to point managers at
  • [21:23:58] <Crofton|work> Angstrom builds on that technology
  • [21:24:36] <MZXGiant> thank you
  • [21:24:39] <MZXGiant> that's what I needed :P
  • [21:24:42] <MZXGiant> managerspeak :)
  • [21:25:13] <_av500_> still, for making sure the hw is ok, I fail to see why not use angstrom
  • [21:25:33] <mdp> has LInux been considered?
  • [21:25:48] <MZXGiant> we're trying to get a PoC close to final product
  • [21:27:15] <MZXGiant> Unfortunately, my hands are tied on the requirements at the moment. I will toss the yoctoproject URL back up to the managers, though.
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  • [21:27:33] <MZXGiant> Hopefully I'll get some support to use Angstrom
  • [21:27:34] <_av500_> what requierements?
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  • [21:27:44] <MZXGiant> Product/project requirements
  • [21:27:52] <_av500_> and hpow do they mandate ubuntu?
  • [21:27:55] <_av500_> how
  • [21:28:02] <MZXGiant> My guess? Arbitrary selection.
  • [21:28:07] <_av500_> ah
  • [21:28:11] <_av500_> ok then
  • [21:28:13] <MZXGiant> But I don't know how they came to that concluson :P
  • [21:28:18] <MZXGiant> *conclusion
  • [21:28:26] <MZXGiant> They may have had some reason that I'm not privvy to
  • [21:28:34] <_av500_> well, since the camera does not work in ubunut, that project comes to an early end :)
  • [21:28:38] <MZXGiant> *privy
  • [21:28:39] <MZXGiant> indeed
  • [21:28:46] <MZXGiant> can't type today. =/
  • [21:28:51] <_av500_> lets for shopping
  • [21:28:54] <_av500_> go
  • [21:29:48] <mdp> it's probably because ubuntu is linux for human beings
  • [21:29:59] <mranostay> heh
  • [21:30:15] <mranostay> we have ubuntu, android and linux. pick one :)
  • [21:30:19] <mdp> and angstrom is a unit of measure that humans don't usually grok
  • [21:31:04] <mdp> mranostay, I'm convinced that my reasoning is not that far off of MZXGiant's mgmt justifications
  • [21:31:48] <MZXGiant> As good a guess as any.
  • [21:31:59] <MZXGiant> http://beagleboard.org/latest-images <- fyi, that link for Angstrom 404s for me
  • [21:32:18] <mdp> it's an educated guess based on my knowledge of mgmt decision making industry best practices
  • [21:32:44] <MZXGiant> my mgmt isn't bad, but I'm the only real software/Linux guy here and no one asks my opinion :P
  • [21:32:58] <kkeller> your making me laugh mdp - "best pratices"
  • [21:32:59] <mdp> that's industry best practice, yes
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  • [21:33:04] <MZXGiant> :P
  • [21:33:05] <mdp> kkeller, :)
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  • [21:33:41] <mdp> kkeller, you will be forever exempt from my characterization of these mgmt generalizations, btw.
  • [21:34:08] <ka6sox> MZXGiant, step up on level and use the link that is there.
  • [21:34:16] * kkeller bows and says thanks
  • [21:34:26] <ka6sox> their link is bad but the image is on the mirror.
  • [21:34:41] <MZXGiant> ahh, danke
  • [21:35:04] <ka6sox> when jkridner or koen get back I'll ask them to fix that.
  • [21:35:05] <mdp> MZXGiant: it's worth the effort to take control of the situation and do things the right way.
  • [21:35:39] <MZXGiant> mdp; I'm debating just flashing Angstrom on and see who notices. >.>
  • [21:37:07] <mdp> edit the /etc/issue to reflect the required Ubuntu release.
  • [21:37:33] <MZXGiant> haha
  • [21:37:43] <_av500_> also make the UI purple
  • [21:37:55] <ka6sox> apt-get update <<< Fail
  • [21:37:57] <mdp> s/purple/suck/
  • [21:38:00] <_av500_> and run some task in 100% cpu
  • [21:38:03] <ka6sox> opkg update
  • [21:38:08] <_av500_> to emulate ubuntu feeling
  • [21:38:34] <MZXGiant> I feel like this is a really stupid question... but is there a build/img of angstrom without the cloud9 stuff?
  • [21:38:39] * bradfa puts on flame suit
  • [21:38:44] <bradfa> MZXGiant, run Debian!
  • [21:38:45] <bradfa> :)
  • [21:38:49] <MZXGiant> like, just base OS with maybe X?
  • [21:38:54] <bradfa> Debian: Linux for bikesheds
  • [21:39:01] <MZXGiant> bradfa; Running not-Angstrom is what got me into this mess D:
  • [21:39:02] <MZXGiant> :P
  • [21:39:10] <_av500_> MZXGiant: you can always build your own
  • [21:39:11] <mdp> bradfa, that's the GNU one, right?!?
  • [21:39:13] <_av500_> or use narcissus
  • [21:39:24] <bradfa> MZXGiant, it sounds like your kernel got you into this, not Angstrom
  • [21:39:35] <_av500_> kernels are a pain
  • [21:39:37] <_av500_> dont use one
  • [21:39:39] <MZXGiant> lol
  • [21:39:40] <bradfa> mdp, It's the one that's not FSF approved
  • [21:39:41] <mdp> we need more of them
  • [21:39:43] <mranostay> don't forget some badass rockstar tech
  • [21:39:53] <mranostay> pop in some nodejs
  • [21:39:55] <MZXGiant> _av500_; Yeah, I'm looking at narcissus. I'm assuming the general "beagleboard" target is sufficient for the beaglebone as well?
  • [21:40:04] <_av500_> aint there a bone one?
  • [21:40:28] * ka6sox watches the load on Emerald go to over 9000
  • [21:40:35] <MZXGiant> _av500_; not in the list, that I see
  • [21:41:12] <_av500_> no idea then
  • [21:41:13] <bradfa> MZXGiant, where in Rochester are you?
  • [21:41:30] * MZXGiant hides
  • [21:41:36] * bradfa searches the city!
  • [21:41:44] <mdp> which Rochester?!?
  • [21:41:46] <mdp> :)
  • [21:41:49] <bradfa> mine :)
  • [21:41:55] <mdp> the good one? :)
  • [21:42:01] <MZXGiant> apparently mine too
  • [21:42:01] <MZXGiant> :P
  • [21:42:03] <bradfa> sadly, yes
  • [21:42:06] <bradfa> the good one
  • [21:42:13] * mdp imagines bradfa holding an awesome gold key to the city
  • [21:42:28] * bradfa holds key up higher!
  • [21:42:35] * MZXGiant finds bradfa on linkedin to see if they already know each other but not by IRC alias
  • [21:42:45] <bradfa> ut oh
  • [21:42:50] <bradfa> real life things...
  • [21:42:53] * bradfa runs scared
  • [21:42:56] <MZXGiant> Found ya
  • [21:42:57] <MZXGiant> and no :P
  • [21:42:58] <mdp> snow plows!
  • [21:43:01] <MZXGiant> I think that's for the best.
  • [21:43:02] <bradfa> mdp, don't get me started
  • [21:43:10] <ka6sox> MZXGiant, you can use the uImage for the bone + a rootfs that are from narcissus
  • [21:43:23] <mdp> bradfa, you folks over there are supposed to know something about that stuff like we do here ;)
  • [21:43:38] <MZXGiant> Ugh, the plows were terrible this week
  • [21:43:38] <bradfa> mdp, you trust Kodak to know things past the year 1990
  • [21:43:41] <MZXGiant> Considering.
  • [21:43:42] <MZXGiant> =/
  • [21:44:14] <mdp> bradfa, hehe...we were talking about calling our township to not plow our streets this week
  • [21:44:29] <MZXGiant> ka6sox; And then the rootfs from narcissus can be for "beaglebone", I take it?
  • [21:44:30] <mdp> bradfa, we were all having too much fun towing tubes behind our ATVs :)
  • [21:44:35] <MZXGiant> (I'm not even sure if it matters)
  • [21:44:35] <bradfa> MZXGiant, Linkedin isn't very good at telling me who you are though...
  • [21:44:43] <MZXGiant> bradfa; That's probably for the best.
  • [21:44:43] <bradfa> mdp, nice!
  • [21:44:45] <MZXGiant> :P
  • [21:45:05] <MZXGiant> bradfa; LinkedIn is terrible for it, but I have tons of hits on Google
  • [21:45:09] <mdp> bradfa, they ruined that after the blizzard was over and they caught up...damn
  • [21:45:09] <ka6sox> MZXGiant, I dunno if the camera stuff works with that.
  • [21:45:25] <MZXGiant> ka6sox; Shame. Maybe I should just stick with the demo image and strip it down
  • [21:45:35] <bradfa> MZXGiant, you have a weird name :P
  • [21:45:43] <ka6sox> MZXGiant, I just don't know
  • [21:45:48] <MZXGiant> Pinged you on LinkedIn, bradfa :P
  • [21:45:54] <bradfa> k
  • [21:45:58] <MZXGiant> Or, attempted to.
  • [21:46:04] <ka6sox> I guess I could look @ emerald and see what it has in the narcissus repos.
  • [21:46:04] <kkeller> mdp - weren't you getting a new snow toy of some kind this year?
  • [21:46:11] <bradfa> MZXGiant, what's that stand for?
  • [21:46:42] <mdp> kkeller, yeah, the commercial tube worked superbly..broke too many sleds doing this before
  • [21:46:42] <MZXGiant> It's just a reallllly old nick I've had since... uh... 1998?
  • [21:46:58] <bradfa> MZXGiant, wanna come write some .NET for us?
  • [21:47:05] <MZXGiant> bradfa; LOL!
  • [21:47:13] <bradfa> your resume says you do :)
  • [21:47:20] <mdp> MZXGiant, do you know node.js?!?
  • [21:47:27] * MZXGiant runs away!!!
  • [21:47:28] <MZXGiant> :P
  • [21:47:36] <mdp> rockstars wanted
  • [21:48:14] <mranostay> never put anything on your resume that wouldn't want to be stuck doing :)
  • [21:48:44] <bradfa> well, it's that time, cya!
  • [21:48:48] <mdp> mranostay, I have 6502 there...hoping, waiting, wanting for my big break
  • [21:48:59] <mdp> beer:30!
  • [21:49:06] <bradfa> mdp beer:00
  • [21:49:06] <MZXGiant> TBH I love doing .NET
  • [21:49:13] <MZXGiant> It's my bread and butter
  • [21:49:34] <MZXGiant> It's also the only thing besides a really old C project that's on my GitHub account :P
  • [21:49:45] <mdp> bradfa, indeed, cya...let us know what board you order..when you do
  • [21:49:58] <bradfa> mdp, will do, once wife loosens purse strings :)
  • [21:50:00] <bradfa> ttyl
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  • [21:50:10] <MZXGiant> Small world. :)
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  • [21:52:06] <ka6sox> MZXGiant, its probably safe enough to try
  • [21:52:18] <ka6sox> worst thing would be a waste of an image from Narcissus
  • [21:52:28] <ka6sox> (which is currently idle)
  • [21:53:10] <MZXGiant> ooh xfce
  • [21:53:11] * MZXGiant snag
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  • [21:56:17] <MZXGiant> ka6sox; Is there anything in the platform-specific thing that I absolutely need?
  • [21:56:28] <MZXGiant> s/thing/section/ # Precision
  • [21:56:52] <ka6sox> MZXGiant, its been a while since I've used it...
  • [21:57:12] <ka6sox> I'm pretty sure that anything that says beaglebone you would want (if there is such a thing)
  • [21:57:26] <MZXGiant> Yeah, nothing like that in there
  • [21:57:38] * MZXGiant hits the build button and gets ready to pray
  • [21:57:39] <MZXGiant> :P
  • [21:57:48] <ka6sox> I run the servers that have narcissus and the repo mirrors.
  • [21:58:01] <MZXGiant> ahh =)
  • [21:59:08] <ka6sox> okay looks like Emerald is working normally....301% cpu
  • [21:59:21] <MZXGiant> Overachiever.
  • [21:59:41] <MZXGiant> :P
  • [22:00:17] <ka6sox> better than before...it was struggling along...
  • [22:00:52] <ka6sox> it'll be better once I can assemble the images in tmpfs instead of the SSD
  • [22:01:26] <MZXGiant> ahhh
  • [22:01:40] <ka6sox> the SSD is much better than when we did it in the RAID5
  • [22:01:55] <MZXGiant> Man, I love my SSD
  • [22:02:02] <MZXGiant> I don't know how I dealt with load times before.
  • [22:02:03] <MZXGiant> :P
  • [22:06:09] <ka6sox> the SSD made a huge difference in assembly times
  • [22:07:22] <MZXGiant> I bought 2 BeagleBones+LCD4+3.1MP Camera+RS-232..
  • [22:07:27] <MZXGiant> and I want to buy 10 mores.
  • [22:07:27] <MZXGiant> =/
  • [22:07:43] <MZXGiant> ... mores? more. Fingers, obey my brain!
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  • [22:07:53] <ka6sox> is that like moar?
  • [22:07:57] <MZXGiant> Haha
  • [22:09:03] <Crofton|work> I owe XorA a beer for introducing me to the pub landlord
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  • [22:14:40] <mranostay> Crofton|work: how about a round for the channel?
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  • [22:15:29] <alan_o> mranostay: hmm... sounds expensive
  • [22:15:36] <mranostay> alan_o: quiet..
  • [22:16:10] <alan_o> mranostay: do the people who are logged in twice get two?
  • [22:16:17] <mranostay> no
  • [22:18:07] <mranostay> and BeagleBot gets none
  • [22:18:18] * mranostay waves to the HR bot
  • [22:19:20] <alan_o> HR department logs IRC?
  • [22:19:22] <alan_o> sounds about right
  • [22:22:25] <mdp> can't have any unmonitored communication channels
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  • [22:22:47] <ka6sox> what about nslu2-log...does it get one for good luck (I'll have his)
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  • [22:23:32] <mranostay> the beer will be given out with the youngest getting more
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  • [22:24:01] <mdp> mranostay, on #rpi you'd be the oldest
  • [22:24:29] <mranostay> ok no underage drinking either
  • [22:27:16] <mdp> mranostay, do you think Boris might reshare a nice BeagleBone MOTD project?
  • [22:27:32] <mranostay> likely
  • [22:27:43] <alan_o> mdp: man, I'd love to have a custom motd for bone
  • [22:27:45] <mranostay> pop in some ascii porn
  • [22:27:47] <mdp> just do that thing with the weathercape ... that should do the trick
  • [22:28:02] <mdp> yeah, some av500-quality jiggly ascii pr0n
  • [22:28:18] <alan_o> if only I could mount the weather cape outside...
  • [22:28:25] <mdp> that actually is quite suitable next to a weather forecast in the MOTD
  • [22:28:47] <mranostay> alan_o: build a weathersafe case for it
  • [22:28:48] <mdp> alan_o, you need a really really long cape extender :)
  • [22:29:12] <mranostay> you can run the one wire sensor outdoors safely :)
  • [22:29:38] <alan_o> hmm maybe, but only if I can bitbang it.
  • [22:29:39] <mdp> mranostay, but we are using the cape...need a extender cape...25m extender
  • [22:29:52] * mdp hears bitbang and bounces
  • [22:29:54] <alan_o> exact steps for installation
  • [22:30:04] <alan_o> mdp always bounces :)
  • [22:30:05] <mranostay> mdp: and that is weathersafe because?
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  • [22:31:14] <mranostay> koen: 3d printer a weatherstation cape case :)
  • [22:31:31] <mranostay> humidity sensor would the hard one to expose
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  • [22:37:28] <alan_o> mranostay: too humid for it?
  • [22:41:27] <_av500_> mranostay: I made an exact step post for you today
  • [22:44:36] <mdp> mrnaostay, I'm just excited about a 25m long cape extender
  • [22:44:41] <mdp> mranostay
  • [22:44:56] <mdp> though it pales in comparison to an /etc/motd hack
  • [22:45:46] <mdp> alan_o: I'm extremely excitable wrt hacks..hence the bouncing
  • [22:48:47] <mranostay> _av500_: nice
  • [22:50:17] <mranostay> mdp: ascii bouncing?
  • [22:51:22] <ka6sox> mranostay, is 18 okay? (months that is)
  • [22:54:53] <mranostay> 18 months what?
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  • [23:01:32] <MZXGiant> I can't win tonight
  • [23:01:45] <MZXGiant> ka6sox; I couldn't get the hybrid image working
  • [23:01:51] <MZXGiant> and so I backed out to the newest demo image
  • [23:01:56] <MZXGiant> and cheese won't take an image
  • [23:02:02] <MZXGiant> Instead, in dmesg, I get " cssp-camera cssp-camera: dma_alloc_coherent of size 6291456 failed"
  • [23:03:11] <ka6sox> morning woglinde
  • [23:03:26] <KotH> nacht woglinde
  • [23:03:28] <ka6sox> MZXGiant, hmmmm...need to talk to the camera folks...
  • [23:03:45] <MZXGiant> =/
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  • [23:04:03] <MZXGiant> Let me give it a reboot quick, see if it's some weird "first boot" situation
  • [23:11:20] <MZXGiant> Nope. Darn.
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  • [23:30:18] <MZXGiant> Oh, looks like Cheese just wants to go too high-res
  • [23:30:21] <MZXGiant> brb
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