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  • [00:33:20] <mph_> mmm
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  • [00:38:06] <spacecolonyone> so I've got a udev rule: ATTRS{product}="Pololu Simple High-Power Motor Controller 24v12", SYMLINK+="shLenslet" in a rules file that has other rules that are being processed
  • [00:38:53] <spacecolonyone> and this rule matches the ATTR reported by udevadm, but it isn't creating the symlink
  • [00:39:06] <spacecolonyone> and I'm out of debugging ideas
  • [00:39:54] <spacecolonyone> wait
  • [00:39:54] <mph_> my head is a lot flatter after banging it repeatably on the beaglebone... I'm just doing something stupid i know and can't figure it out..
  • [00:40:01] <spacecolonyone> ==
  • [00:41:30] <spacecolonyone> doh
  • [00:41:45] <mph_> does anyone know where i can download an image of a workign debian system for beagle-bone, without a whole lot of complicated build instrucitons
  • [00:42:56] <mph_> i could probably also live with ubuntu
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  • [00:43:48] <mranostay> mph_: android, ubuntu and linux!
  • [00:55:05] <mph_> mranostray, thanks!
  • [00:55:20] <mph_> got a link?
  • [00:55:29] <mph_> or just that you know where.
  • [01:00:27] <mph_> cool.
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  • [02:24:26] <19WAAQVF4> your back
  • [02:24:27] <19WAAQVF4> :-)
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  • [02:25:55] <thurbad> no.. you're back :P
  • [02:26:45] <andrew_mpg> or we are together
  • [02:28:23] <andrew_mpg> love the way the internet breaks sometimes
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  • [03:01:54] <andrew_mpg> ok, so i've installed an ubtuntu image on an SDcard, put it in the bone, and connected to the serial port. It boots up and gets as far as
  • [03:01:57] <andrew_mpg> Begin: Running /scripts/local-bottom ... done. done. Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... done.
  • [03:02:08] <andrew_mpg> it then sits and does nothing
  • [03:02:29] <andrew_mpg> eventually after a few minutes, it starts spewing lots of strange erroor message
  • [03:02:39] <andrew_mpg> I have an A5
  • [03:02:51] <andrew_mpg> anyone have any clues as to what i might have done wrong
  • [03:04:28] <ds2> have you consider asking some more ESP enabled spieces?
  • [03:05:09] <andrew_mpg> not sure what else i can tell you
  • [03:05:56] <andrew_mpg> i used the image from http://rcn-ee.net/deb/rootfs/precise/
  • [03:06:11] <ds2> my idea of a strange error is one that starts with english then suddenly switches to unicode and then back w/o any boundaries
  • [03:06:19] <ds2> and I have no idea why anything would output that
  • [03:07:08] <andrew_mpg> errors look like this
  • [03:07:09] <andrew_mpg> [ 360.822631] [<c04e1a78>] (schedule_timeout+0x0/0x16c) from [<c04e0fb8>] (wait_for_common+0xc8/0x154) [ 360.832244] r6:00000002 r5:cf837abc r4:7fffffff [ 360.837127] [<c04e0ef0>] (wait_for_common+0x0/0x154) from [<c04e105c>] (wait_for_completion+0x18/0x1c) [ 360.846954] [<c04e1044>] (wait_for_completion+0x0/0x1c) from [<c004c180>] (flush_work+0x30/0x3c) [ 360.856231] [<c004c150>] (flush_work+0x0/0x3c) from [<c02e8a58>] (t
  • [03:07:19] <ds2> that is not an error
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  • [03:07:45] <ds2> nor is that a strange message
  • [03:07:48] <andrew_mpg> great!, what doe sit mean
  • [03:08:22] <ds2> it means code has executed 0x16c bites from the beginning of the schedule_timeout symbol
  • [03:08:44] <andrew_mpg> right..
  • [03:08:47] <ds2> bytes
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  • [03:09:25] <andrew_mpg> i woudl ahve expected a login prompt on the serial port
  • [03:09:46] <andrew_mpg> if everything was running happily
  • [03:10:34] <andrew_mpg> like the agnostrum distro
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  • [03:10:57] <andrew_mpg> do you have any suggestion as to waht could be wrong
  • [03:11:05] <ds2> ubuntu
  • [03:12:12] <andrew_mpg> ubuntu is wrong?
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  • [03:16:42] <andrew_mpg> i've followed the instructions that were on the ubuntu project web page, i've also tryed the instrutions that were on the debian page. Very siimilar result. I reinstalled the Angnostrum system, and that works fine.. There does seem to be the possiblity that ubuntu and/or deiban shoudl work..
  • [03:17:01] <andrew_mpg> given that some people have obviously got it to work
  • [03:17:33] <andrew_mpg> i'd thought perhaps my laptop was'nt supplying enough power, so i put the board on an eternal 5V PSU
  • [03:20:32] <andrew_mpg> maybe i'll come back later and ask someone
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  • [04:32:06] <mranostay> ds2: i think the lack of mru is rasing the noob level
  • [04:36:58] <emeb_mac> a day without mru is like a day without... ?
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  • [04:39:30] * ka6sox is certain he has NO opinion...
  • [04:41:15] <emeb_mac> he ka6sox
  • [04:41:18] <emeb_mac> +y
  • [04:44:17] <ka6sox> hey!
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  • [04:45:35] <ka6sox> okay lets see if this patch applies cleanly now :P
  • [04:46:01] <emeb_mac> whatcha patchin?
  • [04:46:20] <ka6sox> kernel
  • [04:48:32] <ka6sox> b00m
  • [04:48:45] <emeb_mac> fail?
  • [04:49:30] <ka6sox> am33xx_gpmc=y .... BOOM
  • [04:50:13] <emeb_mac> ooooh - working the FPGA <-> GPMC angle tonight.
  • [04:50:20] <ka6sox> ya
  • [04:50:48] <emeb_mac> and the kernel is fighting back...
  • [04:51:18] <ka6sox> so far
  • [04:51:45] <emeb_mac> where is the boom happening? during build or boot?
  • [04:56:05] * mranostay hurls a Spaten at ka6sox
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  • [04:57:16] <ka6sox> emeb_mac, no, in do_configure :P
  • [04:57:23] <ka6sox> it doesnt' like me
  • [04:57:27] <ka6sox> (very much)
  • [04:57:34] <emeb_mac> ooh - doesn't even get to build
  • [04:57:36] <mranostay> ka6sox: emeb_mac: how goes the FPGA?
  • [04:57:46] <ka6sox> it goes.
  • [04:57:51] <ka6sox> I can talk to it via SPI
  • [04:57:58] <ka6sox> but not GPMC...(yet)
  • [04:58:01] <emeb_mac> mranostay: haven't done anything with it on my end since getting the loader working
  • [04:58:21] <emeb_mac> ka6sox seems to be more diligent than I
  • [04:58:31] <ka6sox> I think I might want it a bit more :D
  • [04:59:04] <mranostay> heh
  • [04:59:20] <emeb_mac> my problem is that I like doing the hardware. the software...
  • [05:00:03] <mranostay> i like both in small amounts
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  • [05:00:36] <emeb_mac> oh, I like software fine. but I usually have other HW projects tempting me. :)
  • [05:00:39] <mranostay> then again embedded guys are really hardward guys compared to most people
  • [05:01:10] <emeb_mac> there's that too
  • [05:01:12] <mranostay> any software i write generally is flipping bits on some low level device
  • [05:01:24] <mranostay> versus all my java programmer friends :)
  • [05:01:32] <emeb_mac> bang all the bits!
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  • [05:02:30] <mranostay> heh
  • [05:04:32] <mranostay> working on my bitbanging nixie cape atm
  • [05:05:18] <ka6sox> why do they allow you to swear in this channel?
  • [05:06:23] <mranostay> swear?
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  • [05:07:25] * mranostay greps his irc logs for swearing
  • [05:08:16] <mranostay> only 21 eff words from April to now. I think that is below average
  • [05:10:35] <emeb_mac> trying to cut down?
  • [05:10:57] <mranostay> emeb_mac: no i swear all the time
  • [05:11:09] <mranostay> just not in this channel generally
  • [05:11:40] <emeb_mac> reminds me of some dialog from the original "Mummy" movie - "Do you swear?" "Every damn day."
  • [05:12:03] <ka6sox> he he
  • [05:12:18] <mranostay> i'm sure there hasn't been a day since 10 i haven't sworn in some form
  • [05:14:32] * emeb_mac remembers his 9th-grad chemlab partner who dropped the f-bomb about every other word.
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  • [05:14:46] <emeb_mac> for some reason it no longer bothers me.
  • [05:14:57] <mranostay> i only do that when i'm really really really drunk
  • [05:15:12] <emeb_mac> that might explain my chemlab partner
  • [05:15:58] <mranostay> i'm generally a happy drunk but that 1-5% of the time i'm kinda a jerk :)
  • [05:16:54] * emeb_mac is a sleep drunk
  • [05:16:58] <emeb_mac> +y
  • [05:17:25] * emeb_mac is dropping a lot of 'y' this evening. better check the keyboard, or fingers.
  • [05:17:58] <ka6sox> sleep drunky?
  • [05:19:19] <mranostay> and god forbid if i get in text mood when drunk :)
  • [05:19:33] <mranostay> *mode
  • [05:19:48] <ka6sox> I think both of you are missing letters
  • [05:19:49] <mranostay> prpplague: yo
  • [05:20:11] <mranostay> ka6sox: beer... i blame beer..
  • [05:20:55] <ka6sox> heh
  • [05:21:45] <prpplague> mranostay: hey
  • [05:21:51] <prpplague> mranostay: what's cookin?
  • [05:22:18] <emeb_mac> prpplague: so you liked the hobbitses?
  • [05:22:54] <mranostay> prpplague: so is my PRU proposal too vague?
  • [05:23:04] <mranostay> btw thanks for fixing the edit feature :)
  • [05:24:14] <prpplague> mranostay: can't take credit for that one, just reported it to LF
  • [05:24:30] <prpplague> mranostay: they haven't turned on my access to review the proposals yet
  • [05:24:37] <prpplague> mranostay: probably next week
  • [05:24:44] <prpplague> emeb_mac: indeed
  • [05:24:45] <mranostay> ok to the pastebine and private msg!
  • [05:24:50] <mranostay> *pastebin
  • [05:25:01] <prpplague> mranostay: hehe sure
  • [05:27:36] <andrew_mpg> hey you guys are alive
  • [05:27:51] <ka6sox> for very small values of alive (some of us)
  • [05:27:52] <mranostay> andrew_mpg: drunkish but alive
  • [05:27:55] <emeb_mac> if they were dead they wouldn't answer.
  • [05:28:27] <andrew_mpg> oh, you hav'nt a dead person speak to you?
  • [05:29:37] <emeb_mac> can't say it's ever happened.
  • [05:29:44] <andrew_mpg> no, nor to me
  • [05:30:54] <ka6sox> but I am ready for a Zombie Apocolypse
  • [05:31:01] <andrew_mpg> is there a place to ask what some people think are dumb questions about beagles?
  • [05:31:25] <ka6sox> according to the topic...yes
  • [05:31:42] <emeb_mac> doo eeet!
  • [05:31:48] <mranostay> ka6sox: he already broke the first rule of the #beagle club
  • [05:31:55] <emeb_mac> ask to ask?
  • [05:31:57] <ka6sox> yup
  • [05:32:10] <emeb_mac> that's strike 1
  • [05:32:11] <andrew_mpg> no, that was'nt asking to ask.. that was asking if there is a place to ask
  • [05:32:14] <andrew_mpg> thats differnet
  • [05:32:15] <ka6sox> he asked if we were alive?
  • [05:32:20] <emeb_mac> quibbling
  • [05:32:24] <andrew_mpg> :-)
  • [05:32:51] * ka6sox unscrews anohter bottle of Modesto's finest...
  • [05:33:12] <emeb_mac> so hit us with these questions. If they're dumb we'll let you know. :)
  • [05:33:25] <ka6sox> we promise not to pummel too much..
  • [05:34:09] <andrew_mpg> i wonder if i need first to supply several crates of whatever you fancy to grease the wheels of infomation flow
  • [05:34:22] <prpplague> ok time to get some sleep, i have a ton of work to do before the end of the month to get some demos off for CES
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  • [05:34:57] <mranostay> ok off to the bar 200 meters away!
  • [05:35:26] <emeb_mac> don't forget your gps so you can get back
  • [05:36:03] <emeb_mac> andrew_mpg: I think no further lubrication is necessary this evening.
  • [05:36:16] <mranostay> i'll leave a trail of breadcrumbs
  • [05:36:52] <prp_zzz> mranostay: drink a few for me
  • [05:37:12] <andrew_mpg> for someone whos just fired up a beagle for the first time yesterday, with a resonable ( read not expert ) level of experience with *nix, which distribution provides an easy path to get started.. I get the impression some folks have some preferences, but after 4 hours reading and googling i cant' see too many reasons why to pick one over another
  • [05:38:03] <Russ> it really depends on what you want to do
  • [05:38:10] <Russ> my first answer would be angstrom
  • [05:38:22] <emeb_mac> angstrom
  • [05:38:23] <ka6sox> angstrom
  • [05:38:34] <andrew_mpg> thats 3 votes to none.
  • [05:38:52] <andrew_mpg> and seeing angstrom is the only distro i can make work, it might win by default
  • [05:39:13] <emeb_mac> it's sized just right for an SBC and is fairly easily expanded with a good package system.
  • [05:39:28] <ka6sox> andrew_mpg, which beagle?
  • [05:39:40] <andrew_mpg> my *choice* of distro woudl be debian, only because its what i've used for donkeys years
  • [05:39:49] <andrew_mpg> beaglebone
  • [05:40:23] <Russ> who the hell is donkey?
  • [05:40:39] <andrew_mpg> donkeys years = very very long time
  • [05:40:43] <ka6sox> what the hell is donkey?
  • [05:41:03] <andrew_mpg> sorry, maybe thats localised slang
  • [05:41:16] <andrew_mpg> s/donkeys years/>10years
  • [05:41:19] <Russ> debian, ubuntu, all those are nice, but they usually require an understanding of what's going on and how to fix it when things go wrong
  • [05:42:11] <andrew_mpg> i guess the beagle came with angstrom for a reason
  • [05:43:14] <andrew_mpg> i came to look at the beagle because ( and i suspect i might be mocked ) after playing with the raspbery PI, i cant' really get it to do what i need
  • [05:43:28] <andrew_mpg> its painful to interface to maninly
  • [05:43:56] <andrew_mpg> and who ever put connectors on all four sides, needs to think about how something can be used in the real world
  • [05:44:28] <andrew_mpg> i need a low latency audio in, is the crunch for me
  • [05:44:34] <andrew_mpg> and you just cant do that via SUB
  • [05:44:37] <andrew_mpg> sorry, USB
  • [05:44:37] <ka6sox> andrew_mpg, what...got tired of bitbanging? oh crap...I swore...
  • [05:44:41] <emeb_mac> andrew_mpg: you won't be mocked for not liking rpi here.
  • [05:45:06] <ka6sox> mru won't bring out his banhammer :D
  • [05:45:07] <andrew_mpg> oh, not even mocked for havint tryed it to start with?
  • [05:45:17] <andrew_mpg> im dissapointed
  • [05:45:23] <ka6sox> when people see the light...we get it.
  • [05:46:01] <andrew_mpg> cute and cheap, probalby have a place as LCD picture frames, but not really useful for me
  • [05:47:05] <ka6sox> low latency audio...why?
  • [05:47:30] <andrew_mpg> i want to decode LTC SMPTE time code
  • [05:48:00] <emeb_mac> hmmm - ka6sox and I were talking about something like that last year IIRC
  • [05:48:18] <andrew_mpg> the best usb interfaces, are about 3ms
  • [05:48:25] <andrew_mpg> which for many applications is just fine
  • [05:48:52] <ka6sox> for mine it makes it annoying
  • [05:48:59] <emeb_mac> 3ms - wow. longer than I'd have thought
  • [05:49:09] <ka6sox> I need the blend @ about .2mS
  • [05:49:55] <ka6sox> SMTPE timecode isnt' that difficult...
  • [05:50:04] <andrew_mpg> no, its not
  • [05:50:06] <ka6sox> AES can be fun.
  • [05:50:14] <ka6sox> sorry AES/EBU
  • [05:50:17] <andrew_mpg> i have working code now
  • [05:50:33] <ka6sox> what port are you using?
  • [05:50:33] <andrew_mpg> project is now to port it all into asomethign i can hold in my hand
  • [05:50:47] <ka6sox> are you going to just read it out or something else?
  • [05:51:10] <andrew_mpg> im using it to trigger events
  • [05:51:32] <andrew_mpg> events could be any number of thigns
  • [05:52:26] <ka6sox> like pyrotechnics?
  • [05:52:28] <ka6sox> :D
  • [05:52:41] <andrew_mpg> yes, like pryo..
  • [05:52:48] <andrew_mpg> except its not pryo
  • [05:53:06] <andrew_mpg> just boring lights
  • [05:53:24] <ka6sox> awwww...
  • [05:53:31] <ka6sox> I wanted to see things blow up
  • [05:53:40] <andrew_mpg> oh, i get to blow stuff up
  • [05:53:43] <andrew_mpg> from time to time
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  • [05:53:52] <ka6sox> I stopped doing live shows...
  • [05:54:25] <emeb_mac> sounds more like DMX
  • [05:54:33] <andrew_mpg> ahh.. almost
  • [05:54:39] <andrew_mpg> Artnet or E1.31
  • [05:54:43] <andrew_mpg> DMX over IP
  • [05:54:59] <ka6sox> for lights its fine
  • [05:55:11] <ka6sox> except I've had issues with chases
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  • [05:55:24] <andrew_mpg> using Artnet?
  • [05:55:28] <andrew_mpg> or E1.31
  • [05:55:31] <andrew_mpg> or DMX?
  • [05:55:34] <ka6sox> e1.31
  • [05:55:58] <andrew_mpg> the biggest show i've set up is almost 700 universes in E1.31 and i have pushed it at 40fps
  • [05:56:02] <andrew_mpg> without issue
  • [05:56:18] <andrew_mpg> a *lot* of led
  • [05:56:27] <ka6sox> Cirque
  • [05:57:11] <andrew_mpg> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuZQFeFIp7A < -- if you are interested
  • [05:59:17] <andrew_mpg> all gone slient, but be itneresed
  • [05:59:20] <andrew_mpg> sorry its 7minuts long
  • [06:02:08] <andrew_mpg> so, i'm thinking that i might just try to rebuild all my code in the angrstrom system
  • [06:02:15] <andrew_mpg> hopefully i can get all the dependancys sorted
  • [06:03:47] <ka6sox> now that you have come over from the dark side...I'm sure that someone will help you...(or at least have a good laugh) :D
  • [06:04:51] <andrew_mpg> the entry curve on the raspbery is very shallow in comparison
  • [06:04:58] <andrew_mpg> its very deceptive
  • [06:05:15] <emeb_mac> you don't have to learn much, but you can't do much either?
  • [06:05:31] <andrew_mpg> i think they have a place
  • [06:05:52] <andrew_mpg> they have really opened a lot of people minds up to possibliys
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  • [06:06:41] <andrew_mpg> i have a coupel of them bolted behind some LCD TV's
  • [06:07:22] <emeb_mac> doing what?
  • [06:07:30] <andrew_mpg> media player
  • [06:07:55] <andrew_mpg> bunch of photos and videos from some of our work
  • [06:08:39] <andrew_mpg> competley out of the box, no mods, and a media player system XBMC i thihk its called
  • [06:08:51] <emeb_mac> yup - works on Beagle too
  • [06:09:01] <andrew_mpg> oh, i'm sure it does
  • [06:09:45] <andrew_mpg> the beagle is very appealing to me however in that it' ahrdware is much more open
  • [06:09:50] <andrew_mpg> and there is no chip on chip tech
  • [06:10:36] <ka6sox> thats the only thing I don't like about OMAP
  • [06:10:58] <ka6sox> and LPDDR is still too expensive
  • [06:11:16] <ds2> the am33x can take other memory
  • [06:11:27] <ds2> POP trumps costs
  • [06:11:33] <ka6sox> POP is the killer
  • [06:12:00] <ds2> saving a possible spin due to DDR layout can offset cost of parts if the volume is low enough
  • [06:12:18] <ka6sox> yes, ddr layout is tricky
  • [06:12:26] <andrew_mpg> my projects are only 100odd runs
  • [06:12:39] <ka6sox> I hope my next one is thousands.
  • [06:12:39] <andrew_mpg> i'm not into doing mass market stuff
  • [06:13:04] <andrew_mpg> having said that, i once built somethign thinking we woudl probalby make 60
  • [06:13:06] <ds2> would be nice if someone could publish graph of engineering/protocosts savings by using POP vs not using LPDDR
  • [06:13:13] <andrew_mpg> last count, we've shipped 6000ish now
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  • [06:14:00] <andrew_mpg> im finally getting back to it, to make it easier to build
  • [06:18:17] <andrew_mpg> so, are there any major ( or minor ) gotchas that cause people problems with the angstrom system?
  • [06:19:38] <ka6sox> using or building?
  • [06:21:00] <ka6sox> using, nope
  • [06:21:09] <ka6sox> building...bring LOTS of HD space...
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  • [06:21:41] <ka6sox> and cores
  • [06:27:09] <andrew_mpg> HD space, to burn, theres TB of it lying aroud the office.
  • [06:27:40] <ka6sox> my typical builds take about 120GB
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  • [06:29:40] <andrew_mpg> what are you buidlign them on?
  • [06:31:02] <_av500_> ahoi
  • [06:31:55] <andrew_mpg> festival for mothers with sons>
  • [06:31:56] <andrew_mpg> ?
  • [06:34:56] <andrew_mpg> @ka6sox, thanks for your time, and 'directions'
  • [06:35:00] <andrew_mpg> much appreiacted
  • [06:35:49] <emeb_mac> _av500_: avast!
  • [06:37:07] <ka6sox> andrew_mpg, today? http://www.flickr.com/photos/68099814@N00/8216012276/in/photostream
  • [06:37:20] <ka6sox> but now I don't use HD space...
  • [06:37:38] <ka6sox> build it in tmpfs (each as 256GB of RAM)
  • [06:39:22] <ds2> rm_work is your friend
  • [06:39:27] <ds2> just build it all on a ramdisk
  • [06:39:37] <ka6sox> then flush
  • [06:39:57] <ka6sox> I still have to transfer the sstate to the SSD
  • [06:40:07] <ds2> nah, just have a very very very good UPS
  • [06:40:24] <ka6sox> we have to "publish" the sstate :P
  • [06:41:37] <ds2> publish the ramdisk ;)
  • [06:41:49] <ka6sox> these aren't front facing
  • [06:42:09] <ka6sox> so I have to push them up to the media server
  • [06:43:01] <ka6sox> besides that...need to make room for a differnt build after that one.
  • [06:43:10] <andrew_mpg> @ka6sox, ahoi is some festival..
  • [06:43:24] <ka6sox> reallly?
  • [06:43:36] <ka6sox> north or south island?
  • [06:43:40] <andrew_mpg> had to look it up on wikipedia, afer av500 mentioned it
  • [06:44:37] <andrew_mpg> i dont' think there would be much of it in either the north or south, its some indian thing
  • [06:44:45] <ka6sox> I see
  • [06:44:51] <andrew_mpg> we'll put that in tommorrow's trivia quiz
  • [06:45:06] <ka6sox> not in my wikipedia kemosabe
  • [06:45:39] <kannan> hi, I need to access a adc pcf8591 via I2C. can someone help me out please?
  • [06:46:18] <kannan> am compiling as per http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#Linux_kernel
  • [06:46:44] <kannan> kernel as per the link and have enabled pcf8591 support in make menuconfig
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  • [06:47:16] <kannan> make ARCH=arm uImage is giving me errors
  • [06:47:35] <ka6sox> pastebin the log?
  • [06:47:50] <ka6sox> (well the bits that matter)
  • [06:48:26] <ds2> what does your qualified Linux consultant say?
  • [06:48:40] <kannan> http://pastebin.com/s3uNiK22
  • [06:48:46] <kannan> trying on a x86 PC
  • [06:49:44] <ka6sox> ds2, you have one of those?
  • [06:50:00] <andrew_mpg> how does a linux consultant qualify to a standard that you woud approve of ds2?
  • [06:51:38] <ka6sox> kannan, pastebin your kernel config
  • [06:53:33] <kannan> can you please let me know where i can find that? (aplogies, am new to linux)
  • [06:54:05] <andrew_mpg> @kannan, its tough here...
  • [06:54:36] <ka6sox> tough crowd
  • [06:54:44] <ka6sox> ls -l .config
  • [06:55:18] <ka6sox> although that might not help here...I need to see where that stuffs it
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  • [06:56:20] <ds2> ka6sox: doesn't everyone?
  • [06:56:25] <kannan> updated the same pastebin
  • [06:56:54] <kannan> oh..sorry. i'll re post
  • [06:57:24] <kannan> http://pastebin.com/QH5WVbgw
  • [06:57:35] <andrew_mpg> lime ( real) , soda, mint, ice and .....
  • [06:57:50] <ka6sox> what is that drink andrew_mpg
  • [06:58:02] <andrew_mpg> its a good one
  • [06:58:03] <andrew_mpg> :-)
  • [06:58:23] <andrew_mpg> long glass
  • [06:58:30] <andrew_mpg> barcadi
  • [06:58:51] <emeb_mac> you put de lime in de coconut and drink dem both up.
  • [06:58:52] <andrew_mpg> i must change my nick to my real nic
  • [06:59:08] <_av500_> emeb_mac: kiss that cat!
  • [06:59:21] <andrew_mpg> it also works well with bombay sapphire gin
  • [06:59:34] <ka6sox> and call me in the morning...wooo oooh oooh
  • [07:00:08] * ka6sox unscrews another bottle of Modesto's finest...
  • [07:00:14] <emeb_mac> _av500_: he's in the other room now.
  • [07:00:43] <ka6sox> is it caturday yet?
  • [07:01:01] <andrew_mpg> ka6sox, so i take it when you build the entire distro you are cross compiling on a *bigger* system
  • [07:01:10] <andrew_mpg> what kind of bigger system are you using
  • [07:02:19] <ka6sox> 24cores@2.0Ghz/256GB RAM/4TB of HD
  • [07:02:31] <ka6sox> /box
  • [07:02:54] <andrew_mpg> thats quite a hunk of machine
  • [07:03:08] <andrew_mpg> 4 x 6 core?
  • [07:03:16] <ka6sox> 2X12core
  • [07:03:32] <ds2> what kind of cooling?
  • [07:03:38] <ka6sox> LOUD
  • [07:03:57] <andrew_mpg> opteron?
  • [07:04:01] <ka6sox> no
  • [07:04:04] <ka6sox> Intel
  • [07:04:10] <ds2> 24 ARMv8's right?. :D
  • [07:04:16] <ka6sox> heh
  • [07:04:23] <ka6sox> I wish
  • [07:04:33] <ka6sox> be quieter than these beasts
  • [07:05:16] <ka6sox> wonder how fast these will be for Narcissus
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  • [07:05:58] <ka6sox> read off of SSD, assemble in ramdisk, write back to SSD till we ship them out
  • [07:08:42] <ka6sox> kannan, did you say which bboard you are using this on?
  • [07:08:57] <kannan> beagleboard C3
  • [07:09:13] <kannan> with beaglebuddy board r1
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  • [07:09:24] <ka6sox> the only question is whether koen can keep it all in 200GB
  • [07:10:59] <kannan> am the pcf8591 lists in i2c-detect at 0x48
  • [07:11:18] <ka6sox> I have no idea of why this thinks its a armv5t and a strongarm
  • [07:12:42] <ka6sox> bbl...driving home (in the rain)
  • [07:12:49] <andrew_mpg> @ka6sox, with 24 cores, how long does a built take
  • [07:12:59] <andrew_mpg> were are you ka?
  • [07:13:14] <ka6sox> Pacific Plate
  • [07:13:34] <ka6sox> andrew_mpg, depends on what I'm building and whether I need to fetch or not
  • [07:13:56] <andrew_mpg> oh, well, im on one side of the pacific plate
  • [07:13:59] <andrew_mpg> as well
  • [07:14:09] <andrew_mpg> might be a long long way from where you are
  • [07:14:12] <ka6sox> ya
  • [07:14:21] <ka6sox> are you on east or west coast?
  • [07:14:21] <andrew_mpg> your not anywhere close, cause its not raining here
  • [07:14:35] <andrew_mpg> bottom of north island
  • [07:14:42] <andrew_mpg> so, i'm very near both east and west
  • [07:14:51] <andrew_mpg> the fault line is only 1km away
  • [07:15:00] <andrew_mpg> .6mile
  • [07:15:02] <ka6sox> okay so are you east or west?
  • [07:15:10] <andrew_mpg> east or west of what?
  • [07:15:14] <ka6sox> the fault
  • [07:15:28] <andrew_mpg> Im east of the fault
  • [07:15:38] <ka6sox> I am about 40kms west of the fault
  • [07:15:56] <andrew_mpg> somwehere in CA?
  • [07:16:02] <ka6sox> ya
  • [07:17:08] <ka6sox> can't see it because someone stuck a 2600m mountain in the way
  • [07:17:25] <andrew_mpg> this is a game
  • [07:17:28] <andrew_mpg> of guessing
  • [07:17:42] <andrew_mpg> its part of the #beagle club culture
  • [07:17:51] <andrew_mpg> to never give anything away easily
  • [07:18:22] <ka6sox> andrew_mpg, it can build a bbone image in <1hr
  • [07:18:35] <ka6sox> (if pseudo is done)
  • [07:18:44] <andrew_mpg> ok, so, i understad the need for speed
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  • [07:19:21] <andrew_mpg> i did'nt realise that there would need to be such a computational requirement to do that job
  • [07:19:32] <andrew_mpg> whats it doing?
  • [07:19:42] <ka6sox> when we start regressing Angstrom with them I want to know sooner than when my 10yr old graduates from college
  • [07:20:53] <andrew_mpg> whats that old moores law rule.. if a problem will take more than 2.7 years to solve
  • [07:20:58] <andrew_mpg> your better to wait
  • [07:21:15] <andrew_mpg> untill you can have some harware that kill allow you to do it.
  • [07:21:26] <andrew_mpg> s/kill/will
  • [07:21:36] <ka6sox> this is still better than waiting for HASP II to finally spit out the error in your fortran programme....24hrs later
  • [07:21:40] <andrew_mpg> in less than 27 years
  • [07:21:52] <andrew_mpg> old school
  • [07:21:56] <andrew_mpg> HASP II
  • [07:22:31] <ka6sox> I think I still have 1 or 2 cards left from a deck
  • [07:22:50] <andrew_mpg> that predates me
  • [07:23:15] <andrew_mpg> DEC PDP-11 was me
  • [07:23:31] <ka6sox> I started on a PDP 8/e
  • [07:24:16] <ka6sox> funny thing...its a bout the same size and weight as these 5 servers.
  • [07:24:37] <andrew_mpg> i think it was a PDP11 94
  • [07:25:19] <andrew_mpg> but had some other stuff at home as a kid.. Sinclair ZX Spectrum, Commodore 64
  • [07:25:36] <ka6sox> lets see..that was 39yrs ago...sheesh
  • [07:25:55] <andrew_mpg> ahh your a bit older than me then
  • [07:26:48] <ka6sox> kannan, I have NO idea of what your build is trying to do.
  • [07:27:14] <ka6sox> (mostly because I am tired and missing something that I'm sure someone who is more awake can find in 2 minutes)
  • [07:27:49] <ka6sox> emeb_mac, its #caturday
  • [07:27:50] <kannan> thanks ka6sox...
  • [07:28:30] <ka6sox> time to stalk the kitty and take a sleeping pic.
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  • [07:30:09] <ds2> whoa HASP?
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  • [07:30:32] <ds2> people still use that?
  • [07:31:00] <ka6sox> no, I was comparing using these builders vs using HASP when I was in College and waiting for results...
  • [07:31:33] <ka6sox> (guess I woke him up from the dead)
  • [07:31:42] <ds2> using?
  • [07:32:00] <ds2> i think we have a different idea of HASP is
  • [07:32:13] <ka6sox> HASP II is a JCL
  • [07:32:25] <ds2> HASP II is a usb DRM stick
  • [07:32:48] <ds2> guess we are talking about different things with the same name
  • [07:33:05] <ds2> some CAD/CAM software come with a hasp stick
  • [07:33:08] <ka6sox> <bot>no ds2, HASP II is a Job Control Language </bot>
  • [07:33:52] <ka6sox> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_Automatic_Spooling_Priority
  • [07:34:01] <ds2> i know... but this is what I was refering to: https://safenet-inc.com/products/software-rights-management/sentinel-hasp-hl/
  • [07:34:07] <_av500_> I hear your HASP and raise you CICS
  • [07:34:20] <_av500_> and we used HASP the dongle for a while
  • [07:34:37] <ds2> _av500_: heh, really? thought you guys were high volume?
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  • [07:36:49] <_av500_> ds2: yes
  • [07:36:59] <ka6sox> why am I still up...and @ work!
  • [07:37:00] <_av500_> still, we have signed firmware images
  • [07:37:17] <_av500_> and the key has to be protected a bit at least
  • [07:37:21] <ds2> ka6sox: you must be practicing for the ELC/SCaLeX week :)
  • [07:37:31] <ka6sox> ds2, no kidding
  • [07:37:31] <ds2> ohhh
  • [07:37:41] <ka6sox> need toothpicks
  • [07:37:53] <ka6sox> and High Speed Rail to get me from SFO to LAX
  • [07:38:26] <ds2> speed boat via water might work
  • [07:38:59] <ka6sox> I already took my 12hr speedboat ride UP the Amazon river thank you....I'll pass.
  • [07:39:16] <ds2> how far did you get on the Amazon?
  • [07:39:23] <ka6sox> Obidos
  • [07:39:30] <ds2> thought it was a bunch of unnavigateable streams toward the origin?
  • [07:39:44] <emeb_mac> obiDOS - never heard of it.
  • [07:39:48] <ka6sox> I was about 280miles up from the mouth
  • [07:39:58] <ka6sox> emeb_mac, +1
  • [07:40:27] <emeb_mac> must be what kenobi used in StarWars
  • [07:41:04] <ds2> sounds nice
  • [07:41:05] <ka6sox> the rough part was going the 26miles across the river....
  • [07:41:26] <ds2> if it was safer, I'd like to hike the mountains where the amazon begins
  • [07:41:26] <ka6sox> at about a 45degree angle to the flow
  • [07:41:45] <ka6sox> in Peru or Brazil?
  • [07:41:53] <ds2> peru
  • [07:42:08] <ds2> it should be a bunch of unnavigateable streams...hence the hiking
  • [07:42:18] <ka6sox> you would be shot
  • [07:42:29] <ka6sox> (or die of mercury poisoning)
  • [07:42:38] <ds2> hence 'if it was safer....'
  • [07:42:47] <ds2> not going to drink from it
  • [07:43:00] <ka6sox> doesn't matter, is absorbed by the skin
  • [07:43:23] <ds2> didn't think it'd be methyl mercury in that area
  • [07:43:27] <ds2> isn't it all from mining?
  • [07:43:37] <ka6sox> yes, GOLD...
  • [07:44:09] <emeb_mac> nitey-nite.
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  • [07:45:20] <ds2> yes but they use metallic mercury
  • [07:45:24] <ka6sox> $HASP
  • [07:45:37] <ka6sox> don't breathe
  • [07:45:37] <andrew_mpg> mmm, that was interesting, so someone has signed protected and encrypted images for the bone?
  • [07:47:00] <ka6sox> okay bed time...nitey nite
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  • [09:55:04] <mranostay> hi!
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  • [10:25:18] <mranostay> ds2: is ther any other kind?
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  • [10:41:19] <_av500_> mranostay: you are drunk
  • [10:41:39] <mranostay> _av500_: guilty
  • [10:41:52] <mranostay> is there a problem?
  • [10:42:26] <woglinde_ice950> gm
  • [10:42:36] <woglinde_ice950> christmas party
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  • [10:43:08] <woglinde_ice950> maybee I can waive to av500 from the ice
  • [10:43:36] <woglinde_ice950> which sort?
  • [10:48:04] * mranostay hurls a Spaten at _av500_
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  • [13:01:55] <Vetri> I want to know how does the beaglebone find re resolution of the LCD cape when it is connected?
  • [13:02:36] <Vetri> *resolution
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  • [13:08:27] <Vetri_> I want to know how does the beaglebone find resolution of the LCD cape when it is connected?
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  • [16:28:49] <_av500_> all that Sir stuff makes me dizzy
  • [16:31:42] <emeb_mac> yes sir
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  • [16:50:32] <djlewis> hello sir _av500_
  • [16:52:03] <_av500_> attaboy!
  • [16:53:09] <djlewis> whats this, trumpets in the background?
  • [16:59:43] <_av500_> kids these days: http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=2686
  • [17:01:15] <prpplague> hehe
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  • [17:09:57] <ka6sox-away> 34yr old "kid"?
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  • [17:20:34] <_av500_> its even rpi compatible
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  • [17:23:51] <ka6sox-away> and a Spartan6 :D
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  • [17:37:03] * djlewis uploads images of his old s-100 stuff to web site.
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  • [17:56:16] <_av500_> url?
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  • [18:05:31] <ka6sox-away> av500, the pic that was embedded
  • [18:05:40] <ka6sox-away> http://bunniefoo.com/novena/novena_depop_clean_labels.jpg
  • [18:05:56] <_av500_> ?
  • [18:06:16] <_av500_> ka6sox-away: that was for djlewis
  • [18:06:34] <ka6sox-away> k
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  • [18:55:44] <djlewis> _av500_: http://djlewis.us/files/s100/boards/boards.htm
  • [18:56:02] <djlewis> kinda preliminary staging
  • [18:56:19] <djlewis> thats about half the boards
  • [18:56:30] <djlewis> rest are in two s-10 computers
  • [18:56:36] <djlewis> s-100
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  • [19:24:43] <ka6sox-away> tarbell disk controller...mmmmmm
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  • [20:16:33] <Cykon> Hey, I'm trying to get angtrom to compile for my beagleboard for the first time following http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners -- for part 7 where it says to get uImage and uboot.bin -- uImage is 0 byte and uboot.bin doesn't exist at that link, am I overlooking something?
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  • [20:34:54] <eikeon> Has anyone tries https://github.com/radioline/node_airtunes from a beaglebone?
  • [20:36:04] <eikeon> Only getting a split of static when I do. Although it's working fine when I run it from my os x box. It being the example: cat sample.pcm | nodejs play_stdin.js --host 10.0.1.3
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  • [21:01:41] <rburton> oooh node-airtunes
  • [21:01:43] <rburton> epic
  • [21:02:39] <rburton> awww, client not server
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  • [21:04:26] <eikeon> There are servers out there too ;D
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  • [22:37:43] <mranostay> morning
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  • [22:37:54] <mranostay> afternoon
  • [22:53:32] <mranostay> av500: building a laptop?
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