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  • [00:24:03] <alan_o> CareBear\: There's a c64 demo scene still? I need to get me one of those.....
  • [00:27:07] <CareBear\> alan_o : it is booming. this year was 30th anniversary of the c64. the major c64 demo party was in the netherlands three weeks ago. the competition entries were better than ever before. all other demo scenes are decreasing, c64 is increasing.
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  • [00:28:24] <CareBear\> alan_o : http://youtu.be/zes4VwV_hIw http://youtu.be/f5UlXq4gUB0
  • [00:28:36] <CareBear\> 1st and 2nd place
  • [00:31:59] <alan_o> it must take forever to make that stuff
  • [00:32:46] <CareBear\> years
  • [00:35:29] <Russ> turn it up to HD for the true experience :p
  • [00:36:10] <CareBear\> alan_o : we talked about http://www.nordicsemi.com/ 2.4GHz radios http://www.nordicsemi.com/eng/Products/2.4GHz-RF like the nRF24L01+ (transceiver only) or nRF24LU1+ (SoC with flash and usb)
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  • [00:37:11] <CareBear\> alan_o : their "ShockBurst<tm>" thingy has MTU=32
  • [00:37:48] <alan_o> yikes!
  • [00:38:07] <CareBear\> note that like all other simple radios they are susceptible to the packets-in-packets attack
  • [00:39:11] <CareBear\> so make sure to add crypto
  • [00:39:11] <alan_o> man, now you've got me looking at C64's on ebay.....
  • [00:39:15] <CareBear\> haha
  • [00:39:24] <CareBear\> they're not all that easy to come by anymore
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  • [00:46:55] <Russ> vice seems to do a good job
  • [00:51:56] <edahling_> Is there a place I can see all of the images that I can build for the beaglebone?
  • [00:52:04] <edahling_> (bitbake)
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  • [00:55:39] <dfarmer> For beaglebone is board-am335xevm.h the right board file to edit to change e.g., SPI setup?
  • [00:55:49] <dfarmer> err... .c
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  • [01:04:02] <edahling_> Nevermind meta-angstrom/recipes-images/angstrom
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  • [01:49:41] <ion> Hah. I found an error in <http://www.ti.com/lit/gpn/am3359>. On page 34 it says that uart5_rxd is an output.
  • [01:52:14] <mdp> ion, ahh, but did you then click the "Submit Documentation Feedback" at the bottom to report it?
  • [01:52:32] <ion> mdp: Not yet, but i obviously will.
  • [01:52:42] <mdp> great! thx
  • [01:53:06] <mdp> sadly, many people don't even see that link in the footer of each page of the trms/datasheets
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  • [01:56:23] <mranostay> gah it feels like 10a
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  • [02:19:54] <emeb_mac> help - trying to build the angstrom kernel for beaglebone and the build process is failing
  • [02:20:23] <emeb_mac> for some reason it can't git clone the meta-smartphone repo so the whole build fails.
  • [02:30:14] <mranostay> fun
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  • [02:41:41] <emeb_mac> yeah - basically all of OE is broken because one branch is inaccessible
  • [02:46:15] <Russ> but I thought git was distributed
  • [02:46:22] <Russ> they told me this could *never* happen
  • [02:51:30] <emeb_mac> heh
  • [02:51:44] <emeb_mac> never is shorter than you think
  • [02:51:57] <Russ> well, it's back to rcs then
  • [02:52:10] <emeb_mac> a bit extreme?
  • [02:52:34] <Russ> or you know, you could just have a clone of the OE git repos around somewhere
  • [02:52:40] <Russ> but I think rcs is the answer
  • [02:54:57] <Crofton|work> emeb_mac, you might have better luck asking in #oe, but it is late and people are afk
  • [02:56:45] <mranostay> mmmm beer
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  • [03:20:00] <emeb_mac> Crofton|work: thanks. I discussed this with some OE folks last week when I first noticed it. No change yet.
  • [03:20:38] <prpplague> Crofton|work: have the stuff we discussed on the menu, give you a shout soon
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  • [03:41:39] <mranostay> KotH: welcome troll
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  • [03:50:30] <mranostay> hi sakoman
  • [03:59:45] <sakoman> hi mranostay!
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  • [04:03:41] * prpplague throws omap4430s at sakoman like ninja throwing stars
  • [04:03:53] <emeb_mac> do they stick?
  • [04:04:05] <sakoman> mranostay: any projects planned for your Stellaris Launchpad?
  • [04:04:19] <sakoman> prpplague: ouch!
  • [04:04:32] <sakoman> emeb_mac: yes, they do :-(
  • [04:04:52] <emeb_mac> sakoman: long time - how's things?
  • [04:05:13] <sakoman> emeb_mac: not bad! staying busy
  • [04:05:43] <emeb_mac> sakoman: that's a good thing. What's the weather like in NorCal these days?
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  • [04:07:23] <mranostay> sakoman: nope.. the bigger question is time :)
  • [04:07:38] <sakoman> emeb_mac: it is winter now -- highs 60's & 70's, low in the 40's
  • [04:07:57] <sakoman> had some rain lately too
  • [04:08:20] <emeb_mac> sakoman: Not too bad. We had below 40 here in Phoenix last night. Getting chilly.
  • [04:08:31] <mranostay> prpplague: never thought i'd miss a little humdity since Spain
  • [04:09:29] <emeb_mac> mranostay: nice pix you posted yesterday. Looks like a fun trip.
  • [04:09:39] <Lee__> Hello everyone, I am using a Beagleboard-xM rev.B with Angstrom v2012.05 (Core edition). When I pluged the webcam in, the board detected the camera:
  • [04:09:48] <Lee__> And when I check in /dev/, video1 was showed.
  • [04:10:12] <Lee__> And this is my opencv program: (version 2.4.2) http://pastebin.com/NRteCwd7
  • [04:10:22] <Lee__> The return value always No camera. I also changed the index in the cvCaptureFromCAM to 0 or 1 but still No camera. Do I need install any driver to able to use with opencv.
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  • [04:14:54] <prpplague> mranostay: hehe
  • [04:18:53] <mranostay> so anyone have a idea for a low end build server?
  • [04:19:34] <mranostay> something i don't need a monitor and keyboard to setup
  • [04:19:41] <mranostay> have i mentioned how much i hate x86 :)
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  • [04:22:23] <prpplague> *cough* everyone needs a Raspberry-Pi as a build server....
  • [04:23:40] <mranostay> remind me to smack you
  • [04:23:54] <prpplague> hehe
  • [04:25:59] <emeb_mac> a beowulf cluster of beaglebones?
  • [04:26:26] <mranostay> that would be an interesting project
  • [04:26:42] <ds2> hmmmmm
  • [04:26:50] <mranostay> using the gpmc or plain old network?
  • [04:27:11] <ds2> zigbee
  • [04:27:17] <emeb_mac> plain old network would be least hassle.
  • [04:27:25] <prpplague> emeb_mac: beocub cluster of RPis?
  • [04:27:36] * mranostay stabs ds2
  • [04:27:49] <ds2> WHAT? O:-)
  • [04:28:07] <emeb_mac> prpplague: meh. crap^n is still crap. :)
  • [04:28:15] <mranostay> heh
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  • [04:29:57] <ds2> emeb_mac: what's blowing up on you again?
  • [04:30:31] <emeb_mac> building the beaglebone angstrom kernel using oebb.sh fails because the meta-smartphone repo is 403
  • [04:30:52] <ds2> is there a backup repo?
  • [04:31:05] <ds2> haven't looked at the recipe
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  • [04:31:31] <emeb_mac> if there is the script isn't finding it. Or is that something I have to do by hand?
  • [04:32:00] <ds2> you might be able to change it by hand
  • [04:32:15] <ds2> it depends on how it was written
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  • [04:33:34] <emeb_mac> only the master repo is listed in layers.txt
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  • [04:35:17] <ds2> wonder if it is mirrored
  • [04:35:27] <emeb_mac> googling...
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  • [04:35:47] <prpplague> emeb_mac: isn't that against the linux foundation harassement policy?
  • [04:36:10] <emeb_mac> probably.
  • [04:37:40] <ds2> emeb_mac: what's the URL it is calling for?
  • [04:38:16] <emeb_mac> layers.txt has http://git.shr-project.org/repo/meta-smartphone.git listed as master. I found another at gitorious though.
  • [04:39:23] <ds2> clone the other one and see if the tag/hash is there if so, change to that
  • [04:39:27] <emeb_mac> cloning from that by hand gets mer further.
  • [04:40:19] <ds2> what 403?
  • [04:40:24] <ds2> it seems to work fine
  • [04:40:34] <emeb_mac> 403:forbidden
  • [04:41:07] <mranostay> is CCS an eclipse based thing?
  • [04:42:08] <ds2> depends on version
  • [04:42:18] <ds2> emeb_mac: I just cloned that one just fine
  • [04:42:41] <emeb_mac> the one at shr-project.org?
  • [04:42:47] <ds2> yep
  • [04:42:55] <emeb_mac> fantastic! I am unique!
  • [04:43:21] <emeb_mac> I wonder if they've blacklisted my domain or something?
  • [04:43:57] <emeb_mac> no matter - I cloned from gitorious and things are moving along now.
  • [04:44:09] <ds2> must be
  • [04:46:35] <mranostay> emeb_mac: what have you been doing? :P
  • [04:47:49] <emeb_mac> mranostay: I'm trying to build a custom kernel for the 'bone that adds spi0 so I can move forward with the FPGA cape.
  • [04:48:54] <mranostay> ah DT one or the non-DT one
  • [04:49:18] <emeb_mac> mranostay: I have fsking idea what DT/non-DT mean :P
  • [04:49:36] <mranostay> ah HW guys :)
  • [04:49:48] <emeb_mac> guilty as charged.
  • [04:50:52] <emeb_mac> although in this case it's less about being a HW guy and more about not paying attention for the last year or so.
  • [04:52:22] <emeb_mac> ds2: how's the stm board?
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  • [04:55:54] <ds2> emeb_mac: waiting on parts from DK
  • [04:56:50] <emeb_mac> <jeopardy tune>
  • [04:57:04] <ds2> :)
  • [04:57:42] <ds2> emeb_mac: I just realized...the F3 disco is bigger then the bone!
  • [04:58:27] <emeb_mac> heh - it's pretty big.
  • [04:58:46] <ds2> and it has more pins on it
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  • [04:58:49] <emeb_mac> and it costs 1/6th what the 'bone does.
  • [04:59:18] <ds2> and probally uses less power then the bone ;)
  • [04:59:26] <emeb_mac> so it must be better (by rpi standards)
  • [05:00:27] <ds2> i wish the disco had a uSD slot
  • [05:00:53] <emeb_mac> that would be fun.
  • [05:01:01] <ds2> need a quick and dirty datalogger
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  • [05:02:43] <emeb_mac> I've got an F405 board w/ USB & uSD on it. Haven't tested those parts yet though.
  • [05:02:50] <ds2> the F4 have it?
  • [05:03:01] <emeb_mac> no - this is a custom board I did.
  • [05:03:11] <ds2> oh... thought it was a disco
  • [05:03:21] <ds2> I guess I can dust off my bone and use it as a data logger :D
  • [05:03:26] <emeb_mac> there you go.
  • [05:03:28] <ds2> wonder how bad are the on board ADCs
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  • [05:11:56] <emeb_mac> ds2: don't know how how well the 'bone ADC works.
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  • [05:12:19] <emeb_mac> but my understanding is that it was designed for resistive touch panel digitizing.
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  • [05:12:31] <emeb_mac> and it's got a fairly limited input range.
  • [05:13:04] <emeb_mac> 0V-1.8V or something
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  • [05:16:00] <ds2> that is a scaling problem
  • [05:16:09] <ds2> dynamic range and noise is a bigger issue
  • [05:16:27] <ds2> too lazy to wire up a i2c/spi chip
  • [05:17:06] <emeb_mac> yeah - no idea what the resolution is.
  • [05:17:34] <emeb_mac> the 12-bit ADC on the STM32 parts is quite good though - very low noise.
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  • [05:18:31] <ds2> emeb_mac: does the F3 do host mode?
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  • [05:24:10] <emeb_mac> ds2: the F3 is device only
  • [05:24:34] <emeb_mac> F4 can do device/OTG/host though
  • [05:25:10] <emeb_mac> F4 disco has an OTG-capable USB micro connector on it too.
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  • [05:30:49] <edahling> I really wish I knew why my LCD looks so weird.
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  • [05:33:38] <mranostay> edahling: get your eyes checked?
  • [05:33:46] <edahling> http://i47.tinypic.com/wv3606.jpg
  • [05:34:05] <edahling> I am due for a checkup. I need a new pair of glasses.
  • [05:34:16] <edahling> But I don't think that's the issue here.
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  • [05:35:11] <edahling> Got my backlight to work today though. Pretty happy about that.
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  • [05:39:11] <edahling> Have you ever seen an LCD look like that? I'm putting 1 header stripped bitmap (480x272) on fb0. Using the da8xx driver.
  • [05:39:41] <edahling> It should be one image, not 4 little ones. And all the colors are off.
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  • [05:41:52] <ds2> blah
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  • [06:07:38] <bc__> What is best RFID reader for beaglebone
  • [06:08:26] <bc__> What is best RFID reader for beaglebone?
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  • [06:10:24] <bc___> What is best RFID reader for beaglebone?
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  • [06:12:55] <bc__> hi for all
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  • [06:15:25] <ynezz> it's my reader ofkoz
  • [06:16:39] <tasslehoff> is the nexus 4 available for order for those of you in uk/us now?
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  • [06:23:15] <bc__> how to use rfid reader with beaglebone?
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  • [06:48:40] <bobsickle> bc__: if you put that exact phrase into google, there's some pretty helpful answers to your question
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  • [08:42:03] <_av500_> tasslehoff: sold out in DE and FR it seems
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  • [09:04:45] <XorA|gone> _av500_: sold out in UK too
  • [09:05:16] <_av500_> yes
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  • [09:07:09] <_av500_> all the hate aside, at least the fruit company can announce and sell stuff
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  • [09:10:41] <LetoThe2nd> the ipad mini: finally, an iphone you cannot use to make phone calls and at the same time is too big to fit into your trousers pockets! :)
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  • [09:12:18] <_av500_> nexus 7 is nice
  • [09:12:29] <_av500_> is the mini so much larger?
  • [09:12:36] <LetoThe2nd> no idea.
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  • [09:12:53] <LetoThe2nd> at the moment i'm totally not in the business of buying such stuff.
  • [09:12:54] <_av500_> so why make such statements?
  • [09:13:37] <LetoThe2nd> _av500_: because trolling? and translating sascha lobo is sometimes fun ;)
  • [09:14:35] * dm8tbr is interested to see how the A101g9 knock-off by that search-engine company will fare
  • [09:14:50] <LetoThe2nd> hrhrhr
  • [09:15:22] <dm8tbr> I like the cortex-A15 aspect. hrw said it's nice and fast in the chromebook (same SoC)
  • [09:18:11] <koen> so fast it burns your speakers
  • [09:18:15] <_av500_> yes
  • [09:18:19] <_av500_> dm8tbr: define fast?
  • [09:18:29] <_av500_> its still 3x slower in sunspider vs ani5
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  • [09:24:17] <_av500_> #define VMXNET3_REV1_MAGIC 0xbabefee1
  • [09:24:23] <_av500_> tsk, tsk tsk
  • [09:24:59] <LetoThe2nd> hehehe
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  • [09:33:01] <dm8tbr> _av500_: 'much better than the pandaborat, even in case of PB with fast SD'
  • [09:34:27] <JViz> koen: how do i get spidev2 to populate /dev?
  • [09:35:44] <JViz> koen: i'm getting this in my dmesg, but no spidev [ 1.315246] BeagleBone cape: exporting SPI pins as spidev
  • [09:37:08] <koen> did you load the spidev module?
  • [09:38:42] <JViz> i have it has a built-in
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  • [09:39:28] <JViz> CONFIG_SPI_SPIDEV=y
  • [09:40:48] <JViz> i made a simple kernel patch to re-enable it with the lcd7
  • [09:41:02] <_av500_> dm8tbr: eh?
  • [09:41:14] <_av500_> KotH: ha, you are back
  • [09:42:15] <JViz> http://pastebin.com/Q5rPARLk
  • [09:43:06] <JViz> i also disconnected the button on gpio3_16
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  • [09:45:44] <JViz> when i made these edits with 3.2.23, it worked, i got a spidev in /dev, but it wasn't working for some other reason
  • [09:45:53] <JViz> now on 3.2.28, it doesn't
  • [09:47:06] <JViz> all i want is a spidev that worked like it did when i patched it with Jack Mitchell's code in 3.2.18
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  • [09:52:52] <JViz> hello?
  • [09:53:15] <JViz> i think he hates me
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  • [09:55:32] <LetoThe2nd> JViz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0Ohp2p_VFw
  • [09:56:53] <JViz> yeah
  • [09:57:06] <JViz> they used to play that on the radio when i lived in LA
  • [09:57:22] <JViz> like non-stop
  • [09:57:43] <JViz> i guess that was a good 10 years ago
  • [09:57:50] <tasslehoff> bah, perhaps it won't be nexus this time either, since google makes it so hard for me to buy one. oh well.
  • [09:57:57] * tasslehoff stops whining (for now)
  • [09:58:45] <LetoThe2nd> JViz: or is your beaglebone relationship more like http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=ZO7NN9w9Z_g
  • [10:01:10] <JViz> LetoThe2nd: haha
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  • [10:06:36] <LetoThe2nd> JViz: \m/ O \m/
  • [10:07:17] <JViz> What to do... what to do...
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  • [12:03:20] <panto> hey
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  • [12:19:22] <mranostay> panto: crap!
  • [12:19:31] <panto> hi mranostay
  • [12:19:36] <panto> looks like you're alive :)
  • [12:19:40] <Crofton|work> what time is it mranostay
  • [12:19:41] <mranostay> yes
  • [12:19:46] <mranostay> Crofton|work: 4a...
  • [12:20:05] <mranostay> i don't handle jetlag well
  • [12:20:19] <mru> you'll get used to it
  • [12:20:54] <lyakh> does anyone know, on which bb board there's a as3711 (or another as371x) PMIC is used? the poster referred to it as "c4," but that just seems to be a reference manual / schematics / datasheet version?
  • [12:21:09] <mranostay> brb switching off my EC2 micro session
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  • [12:21:32] <mru> beagle C4 has a tps something or other pmic
  • [12:23:01] <panto> lunch
  • [12:23:10] <lyakh> mru: yes, I also saw tps... hm, maybe they used an external board... will have to ask, thanks
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  • [13:21:58] <_av500_> gm
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  • [13:39:01] <mdp> mourning
  • [13:39:21] <panto> why so sad?
  • [13:39:47] <dm8tbr> good moaning mdp
  • [13:39:58] <mdp> good moaning to you too
  • [13:40:13] <mdp> panto, it really hit me that I'm back at work again for a second day ;)
  • [13:40:35] <panto> try to forget about bcn
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  • [13:42:15] <dm8tbr> what happens in bcn, stays in bcn? ;)
  • [13:42:30] <alan_o> mdp: day number 2, time to finally stop messing around and get some work done?
  • [13:42:56] <mdp> alan_o, hey, I took my TI ethics refresher course yesterday..major accomplishment
  • [13:43:10] <panto> dm8tbr, we have a variation with s/bcn/bcd/
  • [13:43:15] <mdp> alan_o, I passed by answering the exact opposite of what I thought the answers were.
  • [13:43:37] <alan_o> mdp: hah. Did you get a certificate for your wall?
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  • [13:44:06] <alan_o> I got a certificate one time for ISO-9001 training. My boss handed it to me and said, "don't throw it directly in the trash."
  • [13:44:13] <mdp> alan_o, indeed...to be hung next to my despair.com "motivators"
  • [13:45:22] <mdp> I should probably stop dreaming about how to create a FOSS friendly hdmi cape to crush the official TI/CCO one
  • [13:45:27] <alan_o> Ever since the dispair posters, I snicker every time I see the real ones.
  • [13:45:34] <dm8tbr> ISO-9001 just says that you deliver the same crap, all the time ;)
  • [13:46:14] <alan_o> dm8tbr: In our case, we got certified, and nothing changed for me on the engineering side one bit. But if my expense reports.......
  • [13:46:25] <mru> mdp: at arm they have a stupid "policy" quiz you have to take every year
  • [13:46:30] <mru> the correct answer is always the longest one
  • [13:46:36] <mdp> dm8tbr: right, and when I was on an SEI CMM 5 assessed project, it meant we had a documented, repeatable process, and we collected metrics and used them to improve our horrible process
  • [13:46:51] <mdp> mru, of course ;) typical corporate quizes
  • [13:47:10] <mdp> I felt bad at mentor graphics...I failed the ethics training there.
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  • [13:47:27] <mru> a team-mate of mine at nds made a script to automate the quiz
  • [13:47:45] <mru> apparently the correct answers where hidden somewhere in the page sources
  • [13:47:51] <mru> *were
  • [13:50:03] <mru> somehow the boss found out and was none too pleased
  • [13:53:49] <mdp> heh
  • [13:54:26] <mru> they later fired the guy
  • [13:54:35] <mru> one of the best engineers I've met
  • [13:54:42] <mru> and one of the quirkiest people
  • [13:54:58] <mdp> these often go hand-in-hand
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  • [13:55:12] <alan_o> "how can you do your job, if you can't even pass an online test without cheating?"
  • [13:55:19] <alan_o> or
  • [13:55:33] <alan_o> "how can you possibly be a good engineer if you can't fill out your timecard on a daily basis?"
  • [13:55:35] <mdp> "Kirk did it!"
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  • [13:57:04] <Lee_> Hello everyone, I am using a Beagleboard-xM rev.B with Angstrom v2012.05 (Core edition). When I pluged the webcam in, the board detected the camera: When I check in /dev/, video1 was showed. And this is my opencv program: (version 2.4.2) http://pastebin.com/NRteCwd7 The return value always No camera. I also changed the index in the cvCaptureFromCAM to 0 or 1 but still No camera. Do I need install any driver to able to use with opencv
  • [13:57:39] <_av500_> same answers as yesterday
  • [13:57:45] <_av500_> look them up in irc logs
  • [13:58:08] <Lee_> yes, av500
  • [13:58:36] <Lee_> I did it and also installed: opkg install v4l-utils opkg install libv4l-dev opkg install kernel-module-uvcvideo
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  • [13:59:03] <mru> currently I have two choices: 1) follow the "plan" (whatever it is) and be told I'm not showing initiative or 2) do what I think best and be told off for not following the plan
  • [13:59:38] <alan_o> Lee_: jkridner has a demo with a cam and OpenCV https://github.com/jadonk/stache/blob/master/stache.cpp
  • [13:59:39] <mru> of course nobody is able to explain what the plan is in the first place
  • [13:59:43] <dm8tbr> mru: yeah, you're magically supposed to have enough time for both
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  • [13:59:46] <Lee_> av500: when I cross-compile opencv for BB, V4L was turned OFF
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  • [14:00:09] <alan_o> Lee_: That sounds like a good place to start
  • [14:00:13] <mru> and if they knew I was saying this in public, they'd yell at me for that too
  • [14:00:47] <Lee_> thank you, alan_o
  • [14:01:48] <mru> bottom line, if you know of anyone looking for a short-term contractor/consultant, let me know
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  • [14:34:45] <Lee_> alan_o: I tried example you sent me: https://github.com/jadonk/stache/blob/master/stache.cpp but the program worked well in the ubuntu host, but cannot run on the board, it said: cannot
  • [14:34:47] <Lee_> Could not load stache-mask.png
  • [14:35:41] <alan_o> Lee_: Did you read the code?
  • [14:35:52] <alan_o> Lee_: Did you download the whole project, or just one file?
  • [14:36:00] <alan_o> That file is part of the project.
  • [14:36:10] <alan_o> Exact steps follow:
  • [14:36:18] <alan_o> git clone https://github.com/jadonk/stache.git
  • [14:36:30] <alan_o> cd stache
  • [14:36:33] <alan_o> make
  • [14:36:41] <alan_o> ./stache
  • [14:37:04] <Lee_> yes, I read and downloaded all
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  • [14:37:29] <Lee_> I rebuild the program, and it run well on the ubuntu host
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  • [14:37:49] <Lee_> but when I built for BB-xM it cannot load the png picture
  • [14:37:56] <alan_o> when you ran it on the Beagle, did you copy all the files, for example stache-mask.png?
  • [14:38:04] <Lee_> yes sure
  • [14:38:17] <alan_o> Does maybe OpenCV not have PNG support?
  • [14:38:29] <alan_o> I'm just making stuff up
  • [14:38:30] <Lee_> I think Something wrong when I cross-build opencv lib for BB
  • [14:38:59] <Lee_> ..I turn OFF PNG support
  • [14:39:04] <Lee_> when I build openCV
  • [14:39:19] <alan_o> sounds like that's going to be a problem when you want it to load a png file
  • [14:39:24] <koen> why not use the opencv that comes with the sd card?
  • [14:40:06] <Lee_> I cross-build follow this link http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Building_OpenCV_for_ARM_Cortex-A8
  • [14:40:39] <Lee_> koen: could you show me the pre-build Image with full opencv
  • [14:40:44] <Lee_> thank you.
  • [14:41:22] <koen> Lee_: it's included on the sd card that came in the box
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  • [14:41:48] <Lee_> koen: I lost the original card
  • [14:41:50] <alan_o> koen: I didn't get an SD card. I only got a micro-SD card.
  • [14:41:57] <Lee_> and my board is rev.B
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  • [14:42:49] <alan_o> Lee_: http://beagleboard.org/static/beaglebone/latest/README.htm
  • [14:42:54] <alan_o> There's an SD card image on that site
  • [14:43:11] <alan_o> Also exact steps for writing it
  • [14:43:44] <Lee_> does it work fine with beagleboard xm rev.B?
  • [14:43:59] <alan_o> oh, oops
  • [14:44:04] <alan_o> you want XM
  • [14:44:41] <mdp> did JViz get his spidev working yesterday?
  • [14:45:01] <Lee_> yes, sorry, I didnot say clearly
  • [14:45:25] <alan_o> Lee_: http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [14:45:42] <alan_o> koen: I just want to confirm that ^^^ is latest and "the right way"
  • [14:46:10] <Lee_> alan_o: Im using the version Angstrom-TI-GNOME-image-eglibc-ipk-v2012.01-core-beagleboard-2012.01.11.img.gz on that site
  • [14:46:27] <koen> alan_o: it should be
  • [14:46:59] <Lee_> alan_o: Angstrom v2012.01-core (Core edition). Do I need to change another
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  • [14:48:51] <alan_o> Lee_: I imagine that's fine
  • [14:49:22] <alan_o> wait
  • [14:49:23] <alan_o> what?
  • [14:49:59] <Lee_> I installed this file Angstrom-TI-GNOME-image-eglibc-ipk-v2012.01-core-beagleboard-2012.01.11.img.gz
  • [14:50:11] <alan_o> ok
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  • [14:50:27] <alan_o> is there no opencv in that one?
  • [14:51:01] <Lee_> I cannot file opencv lib, so I had to cross-compiled and download to the board
  • [14:51:18] <_av500_> https://plus.google.com/100242854243155306943/posts/axazqbffUbP
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  • [14:52:00] <Lee_> alan_0 : I followed this link to build: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Building_OpenCV_for_ARM_Cortex-A8
  • [14:52:16] <alan_o> _av500_: oh no..... I'm more of a troll than I realize...
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  • [14:54:43] <alan_o> Lee_: ok man... here's the deal. You're going to need to build OpenCV with PNG support if you want to load a PNG file. Full Stop. Alternatively, you can use the OpenCV that comes on the SD card image. I can't say for sure which SD card image has OpenCV on it already. koen probably knows. I don't. It sounds like you're most of the way there if you just build OpenCV with PNG support. Alternatively, it might be easier for you to find opencv on the filesystem ima
  • [14:54:43] <alan_o> ge, or find a filesystem image that has opencv on it.
  • [14:57:43] <Lee_> alan_o : thank you so much, Im new linuxer, so pardon if I had naive question.
  • [14:57:59] <Lee_> and the last question plz,
  • [14:58:11] <alan_o> Lee_: It's no problem. That's what the IRC helpdesk is for.
  • [14:58:12] <alan_o> :)
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  • [14:59:05] <Lee_> when I cross-build opencv, I cannot turn-on WITH_V4L, I followed the TI link above
  • [15:00:16] <alan_o> Lee_: what's the symptom?
  • [15:00:22] <Lee_> I wonder is it this option make my board cannot init the camera when I use cvcaptureFromCAM function?
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  • [15:00:45] <alan_o> Lee_: sounds like you're on the right track
  • [15:01:28] <_av500_> Lee_: download a factory sd card image
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  • [15:01:30] <alan_o> at this point, since you're new, I'd get an image with opencv on it, or install it from opkg, and do your building right on the beagleboard.
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  • [15:01:34] <_av500_> and try that one
  • [15:01:39] <alan_o> yes
  • [15:01:42] <_av500_> it either has opencv
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  • [15:01:47] <_av500_> or you can opkg install it
  • [15:02:11] <alan_o> Lee_: what he said.
  • [15:02:32] <alan_o> if it was just the png thing, then maybe... but I'm not going to be able to debug why your V4L won't build remotely.
  • [15:02:47] <_av500_> alan_o: you could send a ninja
  • [15:03:20] <alan_o> my ninjas are all fighting my own problems currently. Maybe in a week or so :)
  • [15:03:21] <Lee_> alan_o, _av500: how can I install full opencv lin directly on the bb-xM
  • [15:03:28] <alan_o> opkg
  • [15:03:54] <_av500_> 16:01 < _av500_ > it either has opencv
  • [15:04:00] <_av500_> did you find out?
  • [15:04:15] <Lee_> Im here
  • [15:04:31] <Lee_> seaching...
  • [15:04:49] <alan_o> Lee_: http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/AngstromManual
  • [15:04:59] <alan_o> Lee_: "Installing Packages Over a network"
  • [15:06:01] <Lee_> alan_o : after install, do I need to remove the previous lib?
  • [15:07:13] <alan_o> I'd remove your previous lib first
  • [15:08:13] <Lee_> yes...ok. thank you again alan_o, _av500 and koen !
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  • [15:22:16] <mranostay> er what did i walk into?
  • [15:22:40] <mranostay> and should i back out?
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  • [15:24:45] <alan_o> mdp: ticket closed
  • [15:25:24] * mdp starts a congratulatory email train for alan_o lauding the closure metrics
  • [15:25:42] <alan_o> mranostay: this is IRC: version 6.7. You are currently running the latest version of the internets. Check for updates?
  • [15:26:15] <mdp> his c64 doesn't have newer internets
  • [15:26:54] <alan_o> dang it. stuck with the old internet. Still watching hamsterdance
  • [15:28:35] <mdp> alan_o, mranostay hits the OpenBSD gopher sites on that machine
  • [15:29:06] <alan_o> CareBear\ got me looking at C64's on ebay last night. We let the smoke out of ours back in the 80s. That's what happens when you don't have the housing on the back of the CRT and aren't careful enough with the antenna switch/balun. If I got a c64 and ran contiki on it.... I could write an IRC client
  • [15:29:54] <mdp> be sure to have the client SID-enabled
  • [15:31:10] <mdp> alan_o, panto had me looking at a nice analog vector graphics board to properly drive the MAME vector graphics games...I just need more time to work on these important things
  • [15:31:31] <panto> very important
  • [15:31:35] <alan_o> yeah... we need sponsorship
  • [15:31:43] <mdp> kickstarter?
  • [15:31:48] <alan_o> YES!
  • [15:31:49] <panto> I need to have my tempest on a historically accurate way
  • [15:31:58] <mdp> put up like 345 kickstarter projects...
  • [15:32:05] <mdp> collect $$$...work on whatever we want
  • [15:32:11] <alan_o> profit!!!
  • [15:32:19] <mdp> somebody will fund a massively parallel z80 machine I'm sure
  • [15:32:23] <panto> more like won't even pay dinner
  • [15:32:39] <panto> we need to put in some buzzwords
  • [15:32:42] <_av500_> +1
  • [15:32:46] <_av500_> sinergy
  • [15:32:46] <panto> cloud enabled vector games emulator!
  • [15:32:53] <mdp> panto, "The greatest microcontroller of all time!"
  • [15:32:58] <alan_o> Kickstarter is unbelievable to me. People donate and get _nothing_ in return? They invest in a company and get no ownership, no dividends? What's the matter with people?
  • [15:33:04] <mdp> we'll label each project as "The greatest ever!"
  • [15:33:10] <_av500_> mdp: lets make a 64 core z80 with an A9 to control it
  • [15:33:11] <panto> alan_o, hippies
  • [15:33:15] <_av500_> then put a video of ubuntu on that a9
  • [15:33:17] <_av500_> done
  • [15:33:37] <phh> lolwat.
  • [15:33:45] <mdp> _av500_, we'll create a new architecture paradigm: "OLD.New" and modifiy the linux scheduler to support it
  • [15:33:54] <panto> sigh
  • [15:33:57] <panto> that's my day job
  • [15:33:57] <mdp> panto, LOL
  • [15:33:58] <_av500_> phh see the parallela thing
  • [15:34:19] <phh> mdp: you'd need an arm emulator on the Z80s
  • [15:34:23] <phh> (or z80 emulator on arm)
  • [15:34:28] <_av500_> no
  • [15:34:33] <_av500_> just a gcc backend
  • [15:34:40] <_av500_> and z80 intrinsics
  • [15:34:41] <alan_o> phh: z80 emulator on the PRU
  • [15:34:47] <_av500_> __ADC__
  • [15:35:04] <mdp> maybe we should start with a DT binding to describe the hw
  • [15:35:14] <XorA|gone> someone did start z80 support for ELKS many decades ago
  • [15:35:19] <_av500_> would a capebus help here?
  • [15:35:21] <alan_o> mdp: powerpoint slides to design the DT
  • [15:35:28] <mdp> SYNERGY
  • [15:35:44] * mranostay stabs alan_o
  • [15:35:55] <mranostay> don't joke someone will do it!
  • [15:35:57] * panto pours cold water in the channel
  • [15:36:01] <mdp> XorA|gone: oh wow, ELKS is a distant memory
  • [15:36:08] <emeb_mac> water cooled!
  • [15:36:10] <panto> pipe down people...
  • [15:36:35] * XorA|gone has something like 30 z80 machines here
  • [15:36:38] <alan_o> mranostay: always comes back to stabbings with you...
  • [15:36:48] <mdp> panto, we will succeed with or without you...we don't need your culture of failure here
  • [15:36:50] * alan_o watches the bait
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  • [15:36:58] <panto> mdp, lol
  • [15:37:10] <mdp> alan_o, he had to give up shootings when he moved to the left coast
  • [15:37:12] <panto> I got the reference (I think)
  • [15:37:32] <panto> mdp, yes, he replaced that with full fat milk in the latte of his enemies
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  • [15:37:48] <koen> http://haxlr8r.com/blog/the-mystical-art-of-cost-estimation
  • [15:37:54] <alan_o> panto: hah!
  • [15:38:52] <mdp> they'll detect the hated lactose instantly and stab him
  • [15:39:11] <panto> koen, I worked for many years on a company that did cost estimations by the following formula: final-price = hw-components-price * 1.7
  • [15:39:29] <panto> note that nowhere there is anything like a software development cost
  • [15:39:33] <_av500_> worls for certain values of 1.7
  • [15:39:37] <_av500_> works
  • [15:40:14] <alan_o> panto: you mean the time it takes the person to flash the firmware?
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  • [15:40:28] <panto> neither cases where replacing a simple component like memory with large pin-compatible parts shouldn't increase price by a 1.7 factor
  • [15:40:36] <panto> alan_o, cute :)
  • [15:41:31] <alan_o> panto: I'm only half joking... I have a friend who met someone who claimed to be a "programmer." that's literally what this person did. Flashed chips. The chips are unprogrammed; then they are programmed; therefore I am a programmer
  • [15:41:43] <_av500_> yes
  • [15:41:50] <mdp> panto, I just heard that same equation on a call an hour ago
  • [15:41:55] <mdp> no sw variable
  • [15:42:04] <_av500_> mdp: "we will make millions"
  • [15:42:09] <_av500_> of units
  • [15:42:16] <_av500_> sw is a fixed cost
  • [15:42:17] <panto> _av500_, "but we lose money on each unit"
  • [15:42:21] <_av500_> yes
  • [15:42:22] <_av500_> no
  • [15:42:22] <mdp> _av500_, we used to do that at moto...sell below cost and make it up in volume!
  • [15:42:28] <_av500_> yes
  • [15:42:36] <alan_o> no, we make it up in sw dev costs
  • [15:42:43] <mdp> hehe
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  • [15:56:49] <mdp> alan_o, what's your source for MRF24J40 modules? curious if there's a good !chinaebay src to consider
  • [15:58:50] <koen> it seems microchip can sell you samples, but I haven't found a way to order the breakout board
  • [15:59:05] <koen> I didn't spend much time on it either, so I might have overlooked it :)
  • [15:59:31] <mdp> 8-10USD for 2 pcs breakout on the slow-boat
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  • [16:04:22] <mdp> koen, sometimes the prices from shenzhen amaze me...how about 3USD for 1 breakout board unit?
  • [16:06:32] <_av500_> mdp: can you explin to me an hdmi cable including shipping for 1??? (sent from germany)
  • [16:06:44] <mdp> I cannot
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  • [16:06:49] <_av500_> http://www.ebay.de/itm/HDMI-High-Speed-with-Ethernet-Kabel-FULL-HD-1-0-Meter-/281019821318?pt=DE_Computing_Monitor_AV_Kabel_Adapter&hash=item416e162d06&_uhb=1#ht_1311wt_1141
  • [16:06:52] <mdp> make it up in volume?!?
  • [16:06:57] <_av500_> that has 20% vat already
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  • [16:07:25] <panto> commodities are dirt cheap. film at 11
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  • [16:11:05] <Crofton|work> Do I order a nexus 4?
  • [16:11:16] <XorA|gone> nope
  • [16:11:21] <_av500_> Crofton|work: sure
  • [16:11:26] <_av500_> then sell it to europe
  • [16:11:26] <Crofton|work> rofl
  • [16:11:43] * XorA|gone is assuming it sells out while Crofton|work is making the decision
  • [16:11:55] <Crofton|work> allegedly goes up a noon local
  • [16:12:08] <XorA|gone> went up before 8am in the UK
  • [16:12:17] <_av500_> sold out at 7:30
  • [16:12:25] <Crofton|work> my thinking is I can give it or the one I have to my wife, who is usin ghte nexus 1
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  • [16:18:50] <mru> _av500_: the things is, nobody knows how many were available today
  • [16:18:55] <mru> might have been only 100
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  • [16:19:28] <mru> getting some "sold out in 30min" headlines is surely good publicity
  • [16:19:42] <mru> and probably increases demand once they start shipping in volume
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  • [16:24:53] <alan_o> mdp: I've gotten mine from digikey. Can also do MicrochipDirect
  • [16:25:04] <alan_o> koen: ^^
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  • [16:27:36] <alan_o> mdp: koen: http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/MRF24J40MA-I%2FRM/MRF24J40MA-I%2FRM-ND/1867972 they have 1500
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  • [16:31:01] <help-seeker> Hello,
  • [16:31:15] <alan_o> help-seeker: world!
  • [16:31:34] <XorA|gone> *core dumped*
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  • [16:31:48] <alan_o> gdb ./hello
  • [16:31:58] <help-seeker> I am getting errors while trying to check if dsplink is working with ti-dsplink-examples-run.sh
  • [16:32:06] <help-seeker> all the tests are failing
  • [16:32:34] <help-seeker> I have inserted the module correclty using the other loadmodules script
  • [16:32:56] <help-seeker> for example, Running Loop Sample App =============== Sample Application : LOOP ========== ==== Executing sample for DSP processor Id 0 ==== Entered LOOP_Create () PROC_attach failed . Status = [0x8000800c] Leaving LOOP_Create () Entered LOOP_Delete () CHNL_freeBuffer () failed (output). Status = [0x80008008] CHNL_delete () failed (input). Status = [0x80008000] CHNL_delete () failed (output). Status = [0x80008000] Leaving LOOP_De
  • [16:33:26] <help-seeker> is something else is also required to get dsplink to work?
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  • [16:34:56] <help-seeker> By the way, I get a warning when the loadmodules script is run...**Warning! You need to use mem=126M or less on the kernel cmdline You have 490712kB total memory for Linux **
  • [16:35:15] <help-seeker> are the errors related to this warning?
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  • [16:41:42] <mdp> alan_o: thanks...wasn't sure if the microchip module was the only viable option there
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  • [16:46:30] <alan_o> mdp: There are others. That's the one I'm most familar with. There's stuff from Freescale, and the cc2420 (and related) from TI.
  • [16:47:13] <alan_o> also Atmel at86rf230 (supported in mainline)
  • [16:47:16] <mdp> right, I just meant other makers of a module with the mrf24j40 on it
  • [16:47:21] <alan_o> ohhh...
  • [16:47:26] <alan_o> hmm. not that I know of
  • [16:47:33] <mdp> nbd
  • [16:47:39] <mdp> those are fine to me
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  • [17:25:26] <koen> alan_o: cc2420 lacked driver support, right?
  • [17:25:50] <alan_o> koen: there's driver support in the older linux-zigbee tree, but not upstream
  • [17:26:00] <alan_o> should be straight-forward to port.
  • [17:26:15] <mdp> koen, I could get fired if I touched anything but cc2420 ;)
  • [17:26:33] <alan_o> maybe if someone got me some samples.....
  • [17:26:46] <koen> beware of nyquist
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  • [17:31:40] <mdp> bah, not even a law...just a theorem
  • [17:31:59] <emeb> that means it's not real, right?
  • [17:32:10] <emeb> leading scientists disagree!
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  • [17:42:03] <koen> jkridner1: nice blog post!
  • [17:42:15] <panto> back
  • [17:43:30] <koen> alan_o: looks like digikey europe doesn't carry those boards, so I'll go the texas route :)
  • [17:44:20] <prpplague> koen: rusty is suppose to stop by CCO today to organize the accessory boards turn over to clint
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  • [17:45:00] <koen> prpplague: good!
  • [17:45:25] <koen> prpplague: it looks like clint has caught up with the backlog, so good timing!
  • [17:45:43] <prpplague> dandy we have a large build of F2's
  • [17:46:04] <prpplague> koen: i need to finish a re-write of the ft2232 eeprom programmer we are using
  • [17:48:51] <jkridner1> koen: how are you getting around libgphoto2 not building?
  • [17:49:04] <jkridner1> koen: oh, and thanks for the compliment on the blog post.
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  • [17:55:59] <mdp> emeb, lol
  • [17:57:05] <alan_o> jkridner1: nice hardware pic :)
  • [17:57:51] <mdp> emeb, Matt's sampling Theorem is "we'll sample at a rate where the hw is cheapest" and let the sw team invent "Sampling doubler" [apologies to RamDoubler]
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  • [17:58:41] <emeb> mdp: Sounds about right. Monkey tossing: Catch - the problem is now yours!
  • [17:59:08] <mdp> emeb, it's a "best-in-class" industry process, you know
  • [17:59:32] <emeb> only works if your class is 'special-ed'.
  • [17:59:40] <mdp> heh
  • [18:00:06] <mdp> "fruity boards"
  • [18:00:26] <emeb> fruit + math symbol
  • [18:04:48] <emeb> coming soon: DurianTheta
  • [18:05:17] <emeb> sounds like bad guys from Dr. Who.
  • [18:07:08] <mru> dalekboard
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  • [18:09:31] <jkridner1> alan_o: nice hardware!
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  • [18:17:37] <_av500_> jkridner1: elce was full of bones, so boring
  • [18:17:41] <_av500_> :)
  • [18:18:24] <jkridner1> :-D
  • [18:18:41] <mru> let's try to make elc in feb more interesting, shall we?
  • [18:18:53] <jkridner1> agreed.
  • [18:19:11] <mdp> I have this z80 project...
  • [18:19:18] <jkridner1> like... making it there. :(
  • [18:20:13] <mdp> _av500_, need some stellarisware in ROM related linux project for elc
  • [18:21:16] <_av500_> mdp: 4004 asa remoteproc?
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  • [18:22:03] <_av500_> mdp: i know: stellarisware bindings for node.js
  • [18:22:10] <alan_o> mru: present something interesting for us!
  • [18:22:23] <_av500_> expose quadrature encoders to html5
  • [18:22:40] <_av500_> so you can hand crank a website
  • [18:22:54] <mdp> that's too useful
  • [18:23:22] <_av500_> sorry :(
  • [18:23:34] <_av500_> i was misguided
  • [18:23:42] <mdp> "What to do when the schedule planners don't even know what KMS/DRM is."
  • [18:23:44] <mdp> hrm
  • [18:23:53] <_av500_> DRM is evil
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  • [18:24:56] <mru> alan_o: what would you like to hear about?
  • [18:25:12] <alan_o> Nvidia?
  • [18:25:32] <mru> I think linus has said all that is needed on that topic
  • [18:26:06] <alan_o> Pick a topic that you know well that none of us mortals know about
  • [18:26:14] <alan_o> NEON ?
  • [18:26:34] <mru> what about it?
  • [18:26:40] <mdp> "3273 bugs in the TI compilers"
  • [18:26:48] <alan_o> or that
  • [18:26:58] <mru> nobody cares about the ti compilers
  • [18:27:06] <mru> even TI people say "why would you want to use those?"
  • [18:27:07] <_av500_> +1
  • [18:27:17] <mdp> you showed some true passion for those compilers at elc
  • [18:27:28] <mdp> I saw a spark of life when you mentioned those bugs ;)
  • [18:27:46] <mdp> a twinkling of the eye, I'd claim
  • [18:29:22] <mru> it would be interesting to compare gcc against the TI compiler for C6x
  • [18:29:23] <Cedric_> Hello, i am working with the BeagleBoard, I installed java running on Angstrom and i don't know if i can stablish communication with an USB I/O or with the Rs232. Can you help me? Please.
  • [18:29:59] <alan_o> Cedric_: USB should be easy.
  • [18:30:05] <alan_o> serial, harder
  • [18:30:08] <alan_o> have to do pinmuxing
  • [18:30:19] <_av500_> just a little bitbang
  • [18:31:01] <mru> ttyO2 is already muxed properly, no?
  • [18:31:15] <mru> I'd say java is the hard part there
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  • [18:32:15] <_av500_> but it's installed
  • [18:32:18] <alan_o> mru: possibly on the old kernel. Not on the mainline one.
  • [18:32:26] <mru> wtf
  • [18:32:31] <mru> where's the console then?
  • [18:32:37] <alan_o> O0
  • [18:32:47] <alan_o> wait
  • [18:32:52] <alan_o> did he say xm?
  • [18:32:53] <alan_o> arrgh
  • [18:32:54] <alan_o> sorry
  • [18:32:55] <mdp> board
  • [18:32:58] <alan_o> yeah
  • [18:33:00] <mru> he said beagleboard
  • [18:33:00] <mdp> borad
  • [18:33:02] * alan_o retracts all
  • [18:33:09] <mdp> sometimes they mean bone though
  • [18:33:15] <mdp> you never really know
  • [18:33:21] * emeb wishes he had a retractable all
  • [18:33:21] <alan_o> that's true too
  • [18:33:28] <mru> anyway, whatever uart the console is usually on has pin mux configured by default
  • [18:33:47] <koen> jkridner1: I remember addressing the gphoto2 bug, but I don't remember the details
  • [18:33:57] <koen> jkridner1: I might have cheated and uninstalled stuff from the host
  • [18:34:01] <mdp> "alan_o would like to recall the message 'O0'"
  • [18:34:45] <Cedric_> alan_o:yes i guess it's easier. thanks, do you know how to connect RFID?
  • [18:34:49] <ds2> let's hear about running Linux on the PRUs
  • [18:34:51] <ds2> :)
  • [18:35:28] <ds2> including details on how to get nanosec. hard read time accuracy on there
  • [18:35:31] <woglinde> cedric you might want to look at rxtx
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  • [18:37:51] <Cedric_> I installed the package rxtx but i it can work with the usb
  • [18:38:06] <Cedric_> or the rs232
  • [18:38:08] <woglinde> cedric what do you want to achieve?
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  • [18:39:50] <woglinde> cedric reading data over serial?
  • [18:39:56] <Cedric_> i want to connect the beagleboard to a rfid reader but i don't know which kind of reader pick... a serial rfid reader (rs232) or a Usb reader
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  • [18:40:15] <woglinde> depends on your design
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  • [18:42:02] <Cedric_> besides the rfid reader i need to plug a coffe machine :D
  • [18:42:50] <Cedric_> the machine can be puggled by a ethernet connection, rs232 and usb
  • [18:43:13] <Cedric_> so i have to pick the best way to connect both. Choose the appropiate type of connection.
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  • [18:43:50] <djlewis> ds2: with simple step by step instruction :)
  • [18:45:01] <ds2> djlewis: that is implied :P
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  • [18:51:51] <koen> exact steps?
  • [18:52:36] <_av500_> tiny yocto steps
  • [18:52:44] * dm8tbr hands koen some yocto dev day manuals. they contain EXACT steps!
  • [18:53:38] <_av500_> is there a #yocto channel where they troll us?
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  • [18:56:22] <alan_o> dm8tbr: it's awfully nice of the LF to produce these nice manuals and then not give them to us without large sums of cash being exchanged.
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  • [19:10:09] <bradfa> power button lives!
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  • [19:10:23] <brtex> anyone wanna help a beaglebone nub?
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  • [19:15:01] <_av500_> nubbins?
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  • [19:16:19] <brtex> nubbins?
  • [19:16:40] <bradfa> don't ask to ask
  • [19:17:16] <brtex> k... looking for some help on getting my beaglebone nfs boot to work
  • [19:17:27] <brtex> anyone on expert on the subject?
  • [19:17:53] <bradfa> brtex, if you explain what you're doing now, in detail, and where it's doing something you don't expect, that would be helpful
  • [19:18:02] <brtex> i know my network works - as it pulls in my kernel and begins booting...
  • [19:18:15] <bradfa> brtex, are you pulling kernel via nfs or tftp?
  • [19:18:19] <brtex> i get a kernel panic when it trys to mount rootfs (I am assumign)
  • [19:18:28] <brtex> kernel via nfs
  • [19:18:30] <bradfa> brtex, can you pastebin the boot log?
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  • [19:18:44] <brtex> one sec...
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  • [19:19:53] <brtex> Starting kernel ... Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel. [ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset [ 0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu [ 0.000000] Linux version 3.2.33-psp26 (brycenga@brocks-mint) (gcc version 4.6.3 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) ) #1 Wed Nov 7 17:42:04 EST 2012 [ 0.000000] CPU: ARMv7 Processor [413fc082] revision 2 (ARMv7), cr=10c53c7d [ 0.000000] CPU: PIPT / VIPT nonaliasing da
  • [19:20:04] <bradfa> brtex, please use something like pastebin
  • [19:20:11] <brtex> hmmm...
  • [19:20:21] <bradfa> http://pastebin.com/
  • [19:20:45] <brtex> my work is blocking it... great
  • [19:21:57] <bradfa> try http://pastebin.cross-lfs.org/
  • [19:22:15] <bradfa> or any of the other million paste sites
  • [19:23:05] <brtex> host about this: http://pastebin.ca/2251321
  • [19:24:57] <brtex> then i get a kernel panic that looks like this: http://pastebin.ca/2251322
  • [19:25:44] <brtex> on my host PC, i have a shared Ubuntu 12.04 rootfs
  • [19:26:25] <brtex> in the boot dir of that is where I place the kernel (uImage), and that is what my beaglebone is pulling and booting
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  • [19:28:21] <brtex> my uEnv.txt file looks like this (after several attempts at different variations): http://pastebin.ca/2251324
  • [19:29:29] <bradfa> brtex, can you post just one paste of the entire boot, including u-boot output and the panic?
  • [19:29:53] <brtex> k, one sec...
  • [19:30:24] <woglinde> hm maybee looks like nfs compiled as modules
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  • [19:32:37] <brtex> this is everything before the kernel panic: http://pastebin.ca/2251325
  • [19:32:52] <brtex> takes a while for it to time out and panic
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  • [19:37:19] <brtex> sorry about having to do another pastebin. Not a large enough buffer in putty. Here is the corresponding kernel panic portion of the log
  • [19:37:27] <brtex> http://pastebin.ca/2251328
  • [19:39:11] <woglinde> why you need putty when you have ubuntu?
  • [19:39:42] <_av500_> wine putty.exe
  • [19:39:51] <woglinde> and you can configure putty to have more lines
  • [19:40:06] <brtex> i figured, just haven't gotten there yet
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  • [19:43:12] <brtex> hey woglinde, what do u use to connect serial/usb ports?
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  • [19:44:54] <brtex> so what do u think bradfa? any suggestions on my nfs boot setup?
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  • [19:46:46] <bradfa> brtex, per woglinde suggestion, are you sure you have NFS support compiled in your kernel?
  • [19:47:02] <bradfa> brtex, picocom, screen, minicom, etc work well for serial ports
  • [19:47:43] <brtex> i checked the kernel config. it's in there
  • [19:47:49] <woglinde> brtex screen or minicom mostly
  • [19:47:51] <bradfa> do you have nfs root enabled?
  • [19:47:55] <woglinde> sometimes cutecom
  • [19:48:16] <woglinde> but with cutecom you can not really use vi
  • [19:48:51] <koen> the six editor
  • [19:48:59] <bradfa> brtex, the last line of your boot, at 6.3ish seconds, shows a "rootpath=", should there be something there?
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  • [19:50:05] <brtex> that is what I have been expecting... however, i know someone else that is doing this with Angstrom; his output looks identical there
  • [19:50:53] <brtex> i would expect something to be there - perhaps passed with bootargs in the uEnv.txt file, but that is where things get foggy for me
  • [19:51:04] <brtex> i've tried several things, but I can't get anything to work
  • [19:51:42] <woglinde> post your kernel config
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  • [19:53:26] <brtex> kernel config posted here: http://pastebin.ca/2251336
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  • [19:54:25] <bradfa> brtex, config is for 3.2.29
  • [19:54:31] <bradfa> boot is 3.2.33
  • [19:54:34] <bradfa> that's not the config
  • [19:55:05] <bradfa> is it?
  • [19:55:12] <brtex> ummmm...
  • [19:55:45] <brtex> that was the file created when i compiled the 3.2.33 kernel source
  • [19:55:48] <bradfa> k
  • [19:56:04] <bradfa> config has nfs root ability
  • [19:56:21] <brtex> the file is called 3.2.33-psp26.config - just doesn't have the right ID inside
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  • [19:59:08] <bradfa> brtex, if you boot off mmc, can you then do nfs mounts with that kernel?
  • [19:59:46] <brtex> haven't tried... will try now
  • [20:00:34] <woglinde_> hm okay all stuff which is needed is compiled in
  • [20:00:45] <woglinde_> maybee you dont get an ip
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  • [20:04:19] <mdp> mranostay, https://github.com/modmaker/am335x_pru_package and https://github.com/lybrown/vim-pasm/blob/master/pasm.vim are useful
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  • [20:06:44] <brtex> bradfa, get an error when i attempt the manual nfs mount
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  • [20:06:54] <_av500_> can a man get a proper tgz these days?
  • [20:06:59] <brtex> hopefully, i used the command correctly
  • [20:07:15] <bradfa> brtex, 'mount ${IP_ADDR}:/directory/path
  • [20:07:20] <bradfa> should do it
  • [20:07:26] <brtex> yep, that's what did
  • [20:07:29] <brtex> mount 172.30.8.118:/home/brycenga/exported/ubuntu1204r8 here
  • [20:07:53] <brtex> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on 172.30.8.118:/home/brycenga/exported/ubuntu1204r8,
  • [20:08:05] <brtex> looks like i have a bigger problem
  • [20:08:16] <bradfa> brtex, or you've not exported that dir on your deskotp
  • [20:08:17] <mdp> _av500_: we are out of tgz, only have spruh73c^Hg.pdf
  • [20:08:35] <brtex> but i'm pretty sure i did
  • [20:08:37] <bradfa> brtex, can you pastebin your /proc/config.gz after unzipping
  • [20:08:38] <_av500_> spru all the PDFs!
  • [20:09:25] <brtex> i have an entry in /etc/exports like this: /home/brycenga/exported BRBone(rw,nohide,insecure,no_subtree_check,async,no_root_squash)
  • [20:09:44] <bradfa> can you mount that export from another machine?
  • [20:09:57] <bradfa> with working nfs?
  • [20:10:03] <brtex> checking now
  • [20:10:37] <bradfa> pastebin the output of `cat /proc/config.gz | gunzip -` command (remove the ` marks) (it's long, use a sane terminal)
  • [20:10:49] <bradfa> that's the config you're booting
  • [20:11:01] <bradfa> interested to see if it's the same as the one you think you're building
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  • [20:18:11] <brtex> bradfa, finally! config.gz output posted here: http://pastebin.ca/2251345
  • [20:19:39] <bradfa> brtex, visually they look similar (same?)
  • [20:19:48] <bradfa> are you able to mount that nfs export on another machine?
  • [20:20:22] <brtex> yep, they look the same... still working on the "other machine mount"
  • [20:25:33] <brtex> bradfa, the mounting from another machine is not looking good
  • [20:25:43] <brtex> it's got to be in how i am exporting
  • [20:25:55] <brtex> i can mount from my machine to my buddy's
  • [20:25:59] <brtex> he cannot mount to me
  • [20:26:09] <brtex> crap
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  • [20:29:49] <brtex> bradfa, u there?
  • [20:30:00] <bradfa> brtex, yes
  • [20:30:09] <brtex> problem solved, it was my export
  • [20:30:13] <bradfa> good to hear
  • [20:30:25] <brtex> many thanks for walking me through the problem
  • [20:30:30] <bradfa> any time :)
  • [20:31:09] <brtex> fwiw: I had what I thought was my beaglebone hostname for the export entry, "BRBone"
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  • [20:31:24] <brtex> i replaced with * and now everything works
  • [20:32:02] <woglinde_> good
  • [20:32:07] <woglinde_> case solved
  • [20:33:20] <bradfa> brtex, just out of curiosity, why do you seem on a big network rather than a small one with the nfs server also doing dhcp?
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  • [20:34:11] <brtex> my bone is plugged into our corporate network
  • [20:34:29] <brtex> it is doing dhcp
  • [20:35:09] <brtex> not sure y it seems "big" vs. "small". you mean because of the netmask?
  • [20:35:11] <bradfa> if you're exporting nfs shares rw, might be a good idea to use a slightly less exposed network
  • [20:35:18] <brtex> true... true
  • [20:35:26] <bradfa> big/small, yes
  • [20:35:57] <brtex> i will do some trimming now. was getting desperate to get this thing working
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  • [20:51:25] <mru> see how long you can stay before being banned
  • [20:51:36] <mru> or see how quickly you can be banned
  • [20:51:46] <mru> I believe I currently hold the record for the latter
  • [20:51:46] <bradfa> challenge, accepted!
  • [20:51:58] <mru> took ~1s last time
  • [20:52:17] <bradfa> ironically, I'll probably get a free raspberry pi due to purchase of a handful of beaglebones from adafruit
  • [20:52:37] <bradfa> mru, no way I can beat that, I joined over 2 minutes ago!
  • [20:53:46] <mru> that was the 3rd time
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  • [20:54:20] <mru> I still have more IP addresses...
  • [20:54:35] <woglinde_> lol
  • [20:54:56] <woglinde_> mru do they fear you?
  • [20:55:04] <mru> apparently
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  • [21:10:45] <alan_o> bradfa: ticket closed. make sure mdp tallies it on the big board. :)
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  • [21:16:14] * mdp swivels his chair to gaze at the metrics on the big board
  • [21:16:20] <mdp> excellent!
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  • [21:20:28] <djlewis> how many of you are in the same office?
  • [21:20:53] <panto> djlewis, the intertubes are our office
  • [21:21:56] <alan_o> There's one in my office. That's all I can say for sure.
  • [21:22:11] <mdp> alan_o, your metrics are up this week, you win a $10 gift card to the company cafeteria..spend it wisely.
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  • [21:22:47] <alan_o> oh la la... Can't wait to get an extra raspberry pie for dessert.
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  • [21:23:47] * alan_o thinks about the raspberry cobbler they used to have at Backyard burger before they closed.... maybe that was blackberry... it's been too long... maybe that's why they closed.
  • [21:24:32] <djlewis> then its time for a blackberry pi
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  • [23:04:22] <jkridner1> koen, joelagnel: feels like I've been here before: http://pastebin.com/1S1TCzt4
  • [23:04:34] <jkridner1> not sure what happened.
  • [23:04:41] <jkridner1> thought I was building fine earlier.
  • [23:05:43] <ds2> CROSS_COMPILER?
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  • [23:11:43] <jkridner1> yeah... seems something is wrong with the Angstrom compiler as far as I can tell.
  • [23:12:11] <ds2> no, I mean the keyword
  • [23:12:28] <jkridner1> I was using it on the command-line, yes.
  • [23:12:30] <ds2> usually it is CROSS_COMPILE= not CROSS_COMPILER= as it is a prefix
  • [23:12:37] <jkridner1> oh!
  • [23:12:41] <ds2> is that a new alias?
  • [23:12:56] <jkridner1> thanks.
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  • [23:18:39] <xenome-> anyone here have any success running nginx?
  • [23:18:55] <ds2> wazdat?
  • [23:18:58] * NishanthMenon (~nmenon@192.94.92.14) Quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)
  • [23:19:45] <xenome-> a small webserver
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  • [23:22:03] <alan_o> ds2: it's spelled Wozniak
  • [23:23:21] <alan_o> xenome-: does nginx use blocking I/O?
  • [23:23:33] <alan_o> because everyone knows threads don't scale.
  • [23:23:51] * alan_o realizes he's trolling two people at once... #beagle has ruined me!
  • [23:24:04] <ds2> :)
  • [23:26:01] <_av500_> alan_o: Sir, please come with me
  • [23:27:35] <alan_o> no, I just.. .but.. wait.. officer.. please!
  • [23:28:53] <alan_o> xenome-: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzkRVzciAZg
  • [23:29:02] <_av500_> anybody else pepper spray?
  • [23:29:20] <_av500_> good
  • [23:29:26] <alan_o> _av500_: we have proper guns here
  • [23:29:57] <_av500_> I know
  • [23:30:05] <_av500_> its all about health care...
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  • [23:35:07] <xenome-> alan_o: pretty funny video
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