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  • [00:42:58] <kaio_> hey could someone tell me the cheapest case designed for beagleboard xm?
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  • [00:57:47] <thurbad> dunno about cheapest, I only know of the one at speciacomp.com not exactly cheap though :(
  • [00:59:55] <kaio_> thurbad??? exactly what I thought so I still having a bare board
  • [01:00:36] <thurbad> I just picked up a static mat at fry's and keep it on that :P
  • [01:01:08] <kaio_> thurbad??? I saw one from an India web site, only 2 rounded angle clear acrylic sheet with 4 bolts asking for $7.xx. however, the postage was $60...
  • [01:01:24] <thurbad> eep
  • [01:01:51] <kaio_> thurbad??? ya reminded me I can go to hardware outlet to grab acrylic sheet and DIY
  • [01:02:28] <kaio_> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CLEAR-PERSPEX-ACRYLIC-SHEET-100MMX100MM-SQUARE-2MM-3MM-4MM-5MM-/251042543637?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item8015df708f#ht_483wt_1185
  • [01:02:30] <thurbad> I can't cut straight to save my life :P
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  • [01:03:51] <kaio_> that is alright - 100mm square, so you just need to round the angle, or even get 8 angle protectors (for children save) :)
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  • [01:04:46] <kaio_> thurbad??? thx for your reply reminding me what I planned
  • [01:04:46] <kaio_> XD
  • [01:05:04] <thurbad> heh, good luck
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  • [06:12:11] <Chainz> Hello anyone handled USER LED in beaglebone in ANDROID platform.?
  • [06:14:02] <Chainz> I wanna blink the BB USER LED when mmc is processing
  • [06:15:14] * mranostay facepalms
  • [06:15:28] <mranostay> google it!
  • [06:16:37] <Chainz> ya already searched but not get info about it
  • [06:16:49] <Chainz> no one tried this till now
  • [06:17:21] * mranostay raises eyebrow
  • [06:18:15] <ds2> try a better search engine
  • [06:18:39] <Chainz> @ds2 thats why i come here
  • [06:18:58] <Chainz> its beaglebone technical chat na.?
  • [06:19:13] <ds2> when did this become a search engine?
  • [06:19:34] <mranostay> ds2: you going to E-ELC?
  • [06:19:47] <ds2> mranostay: no. no $$ for that sort of thing
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  • [06:20:25] <mranostay> er they remade Red Dawn?
  • [06:20:49] <ds2> ?
  • [06:21:15] <mranostay> loaded up a Youtube video and saw that trailer
  • [06:21:37] <ds2> blah
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  • [06:22:06] <mranostay> heh North Koreans are the bad guys this time
  • [06:22:34] <ds2> isn't there an accuracy issue there?
  • [06:22:53] <mranostay> as they have no damn resources to attack us? :)
  • [06:23:17] <ds2> as in their stuff might have issues hitting the broadside of a barn?
  • [06:23:39] <mranostay> heh yeah i think it may get halfway to Hawaii :)
  • [06:24:08] <ds2> sure that'd be hawaii? not easter island or somewhere in the water/
  • [06:24:42] <mranostay> not to mention we would knock them back to the stone age... er wait :)
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  • [06:25:17] <ds2> back? ;)
  • [06:26:31] <mranostay> i thought of doing a vacation there
  • [06:26:50] <mranostay> but i'd probably do something stupid and get myself shot :)
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  • [06:49:54] * mranostay votes for E-ELC 2013 to be in Amsterdam :)
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  • [08:18:43] <av500> mranostay: Munich
  • [08:22:58] <woglinde> hi av500
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  • [08:31:34] <LetoThe2nd> \o/ munich
  • [08:32:08] <woglinde> nuermberg
  • [08:32:11] <woglinde> args
  • [08:34:53] <av500> ho woglinde
  • [08:34:54] <LetoThe2nd> argc, argv
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  • [08:37:49] <woglinde> String[] args
  • [08:37:54] <woglinde> there you go
  • [08:38:02] <kaio_> thurbad??? checked, local acrylic supplier sells A4 3mm thick perspex US$3.xx each
  • [08:39:35] <thurbad> nice, will they cut to size?
  • [08:39:55] <kaio_> thurbad??? they said anything smaller than that I have to cut it by myself
  • [08:40:11] <kaio_> he said normal round saw can do
  • [08:40:19] <kaio_> and send that
  • [08:40:21] <kaio_> sand
  • [08:41:01] <kaio_> thurbad??? so a sheet can make a A5 "case" with max 9" LCD on top of that.
  • [08:41:44] <thurbad> yeah, I'm all thumbs and would probably scratch it all up
  • [08:42:28] <kaio_> I just wish they can do angle rounding for me... but no
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  • [08:51:36] <vadmeste> Hello everybody. I bought a beagle board XM. I plugged the serial port with the power supply 5v (5v with 1000 mA) and I am not able to get the serial output. Do you think that 1000 mA is too low to power my board ?
  • [08:54:42] <thurbad> 1A should be plenty
  • [08:55:11] <thurbad> do you have the the terminal configured properly?
  • [08:55:40] <jonand_> vadmeste: "I plugged the serial port with the power supply" ??
  • [08:55:50] <vadmeste> jonand_: sorry for my english anyway
  • [08:56:01] <jonand_> vadmeste: ok, just checking..
  • [08:56:17] <vadmeste> thurbad: but I just read here http://beagleboard.org/peripheral that the board needs at least 1200 mA
  • [08:57:10] <vadmeste> thurbad: when I plug the usb cable, I can get the output
  • [08:57:17] <vadmeste> so I guess that it is properly configured
  • [08:57:47] <thurbad> usb power is only .5A
  • [08:57:54] <ogra_> per port
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  • [09:05:22] <vadmeste> thurbad: yes I know.. and I got a kernel panic. I read that I need an external power supply but it seems that my power jack provides only 1000mA...
  • [09:05:49] <vadmeste> but now, I have only a red light and no output via serial port
  • [09:06:01] <thurbad> but you should at least get something
  • [09:06:22] <thurbad> red is an over voltage warning, isn't it?
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  • [09:07:05] <vadmeste> thurbad: don't know :o
  • [09:07:33] <thurbad> you're sure it's 5V regulated?
  • [09:08:43] <woglinde> red is bad
  • [09:09:27] <vrb> how about http://code.google.com/p/rowboat/wiki/JellybeanOnBeagleboard_WithSGX
  • [09:10:34] <woglinde> if you need it
  • [09:10:47] <vrb> sorry wrong window!
  • [09:14:31] <vadmeste> thurbad: I am using this one http://www.elak.be/product/details/velleman/adapters-&-power-supplies/psse510/M640E022
  • [09:15:39] <kaio_> My test was USB will make kernel panic
  • [09:15:42] <thurbad> hmm, maybe the polarity is backwards.. something is obviously wrong if you're gettinga red light
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  • [09:15:50] <kaio_> and I am using 2A supply all time
  • [09:16:52] <woglinde> kaio yes musb is bad ass
  • [09:17:14] <thurbad> well it's both of those, but not in that order
  • [09:17:15] <woglinde> kaio you need a kernel with an buildin gadet driver
  • [09:17:27] <woglinde> and the panics will go away
  • [09:17:51] <kaio_> I just want to make my bbxm outputs DVI on Fedora...
  • [09:17:58] <kaio_> Ubuntu worked, not Fedora...
  • [09:18:00] <thurbad> better to just get the proper barrel adapter IMO
  • [09:18:35] <thurbad> ugh fedora on an embedded processor, ubuntu is bad enough :P
  • [09:18:58] <woglinde> breaking bad fedora?
  • [09:19:01] <woglinde> no thanks
  • [09:19:24] <woglinde> at least the learned something and delayed the last release because of brokeness
  • [09:19:56] <thurbad> unless you can't afford a desktop why would you put fedora on a beagleboard?
  • [09:20:11] <thurbad> the price thing I can understand
  • [09:20:28] <thurbad> no insult intended BTW
  • [09:20:38] <thurbad> I'll leavethose to av500
  • [09:23:45] <kaio_> thurbad??? I am used to the admin workflow of that.
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  • [09:24:29] <thurbad> fair enough...
  • [09:24:47] <kaio_> thurbad??? i dont need to get gnome/xfce works even, just let me to use an individual LCD to admin.. not serial/ssh/vnc, etc.
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  • [09:25:31] <kaio_> ubuntu config like alien to me
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  • [09:30:36] <bizulk> Hi ! I'am searching a "working" git repo for my beableboard xM - I used this one "https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel" but Iam experience trouble kernel crashes when calling omap_prm_read_mod_reg
  • [09:31:27] <av500> thurbad: insult? why would I?
  • [09:31:40] <thurbad> heh
  • [09:33:16] <bizulk> here are the kernel logs : pastebin.com/iUF52j9d
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  • [09:43:14] <koen> bizulk: try one of the other branches
  • [09:59:23] <dwery> koen: hi. I saw some graphs of yours regarding temperature.. what library are you using to generate them?
  • [10:00:12] <bizulk> help
  • [10:00:47] <bizulk> koen I did use the patch you have written (does it apply now ony to beaglebone ?).
  • [10:01:52] <bizulk> I mean the script patches.sh
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  • [10:07:33] <koen> dwery: stock cosm for the weatherstation stuff
  • [10:10:00] <Chainz> Hello anyone handled USER LED in beaglebone in ANDROID platform.?, I wanna blink the BB USER LED when mmc is processing
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  • [11:09:09] <beaglenrique> somebody can help with beaglebone and can bus??
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  • [11:53:19] <bradfa> Anyone with device tree experience (as I have little), is the arch/arm/mach-omap2/mux33xx.c (and other mux files in that dir) from PSP (and older) kernels going away in favor of device tree?
  • [11:54:07] <mru> iiuc, DT is mostly supposed to replace the board-*.c files and whatever exists only for their benefit
  • [11:54:44] <bradfa> mru, that's what I thought. So then the muxXXXX.c files will still exist listing all the mux possibilities for each SoC?
  • [11:56:03] <mru> can dt provide the same information?
  • [11:57:11] <bradfa> mru, that's kind of _MY_ question... :)
  • [11:58:17] <koen> bradfa: google for pinctrl
  • [11:58:43] <koen> bradfa: example: https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/blob/beaglebone-3.6/patches/pinctrl/0003-arm-dts-AM33XX-Configure-pinmuxs-for-user-leds-contr.patch
  • [11:59:24] <bradfa> koen, ah! many thanks! I saw patches like that on linux-omap list but wasn't sure exactly what they were doing as I was missing some context.
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  • [12:16:38] <av500> koen: wow, magic numbers
  • [12:16:53] <av500> wtf is 44e10800?
  • [12:19:50] <mru> context?
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  • [12:22:04] <av500> mru: the above url
  • [12:23:47] <mru> it's the address of a pin mux register
  • [12:25:27] <mru> conf_gpmc_ad0
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  • [12:26:11] <koen> av500: yes, that was my complaint as well
  • [12:26:20] <koen> av500: broonie advocated a DT preprocessor
  • [12:26:37] <koen> av500: same idea with keycodes, you need to know that 0x27 is KEY_POWER
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  • [12:28:58] <av500> koen: you know, there was one preprocessor
  • [12:29:07] <av500> part of gcc
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  • [14:05:22] <angs> Hi, is it possible to set an external source's ground as the board's ground?
  • [14:05:58] <jacekowski> yeah
  • [14:06:33] <angs> could you tell me where I can find an instruction how to do it?
  • [14:06:51] <jacekowski> with a wire and soldering iron
  • [14:07:36] <angs> if I plug the ground of the external source into GPIO pin 27 or 28, would it be set by itself?
  • [14:08:07] <angs> do I need to configure something in the software?
  • [14:09:40] <jacekowski> ahm
  • [14:09:43] <jacekowski> that kind of thing
  • [14:09:57] <jacekowski> ground it on power supply side of things
  • [14:10:10] <jacekowski> and make sure that you are not creating ground loops somewhere
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  • [14:12:36] <angs> do you mean the holes in the edge parts of the board?
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  • [14:34:35] <jacekowski> no
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  • [14:35:09] <jacekowski> angs: i think ##electronics will be a better channel to ask those questions
  • [14:35:18] <jacekowski> angs: as it's not really bb specific
  • [14:36:06] <angs> jacekowski: thank you, I will ask it on that room
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  • [14:37:58] <koen> alan_o: mmc is working now
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  • [15:18:28] <mdp> koen, note that I didn't add crossbar support yet, so mmc3 will not work (wl12xx on some boards)
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  • [15:22:46] <koen> it's mmc2 on the wifi cape :)
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  • [15:25:33] <mdp> koen, wificape++ then ;)
  • [15:28:52] <mdp> koen, so few people care about the evm here anyway
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  • [15:36:37] <koen> mdp: I'm not convinced that pinctrl is actually enabled, so the wifi cape probably wouldn't work
  • [15:38:28] <mdp> well, at least that's not my department ;)
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  • [16:45:26] <alan_o> koen: Nice on the MMC.
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  • [16:45:41] <alan_o> koen: I ran against net-next from 2 days ago and it's working well also.
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  • [17:10:47] <nrc> hello everybody
  • [17:12:44] <jkridner_> hi john3909
  • [17:13:22] <jkridner_> was there any magic in building cloud9 for node 0.8.9 on Beagle?
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  • [17:16:26] <nrc> I've just plugged in my newly arrived beaglebone and I have a little problem: I plugged a usb drive on usb host port but nothing appears on dmesg, I also tried with an usb xbee stick and a keyboard, but nothing happened. Do I miss something, or maybe is a hardware problem?
  • [17:16:42] <john3909> jkridner_: let me get you that info
  • [17:18:14] <john3909> jkridner_: url = https://github.com/TooTallNate/node.git
  • [17:18:28] <john3909> jkridner_: user the pi branch
  • [17:19:12] <john3909> jkridner_: standard ./configure, make, make install
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  • [17:20:26] <john3909> jkridner_: You also have to define CC, AR, LD, as the standard CROSS_COMPILE doesn't do everything. ARCH=arm
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  • [17:32:48] <mranostay> heh
  • [17:32:52] <alan_o> so ELC-E people, are any of you going to this VIP dinner? I remember some discussion about it. And I remember scoffing.....
  • [17:33:16] <alan_o> something about people in suits......
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  • [17:33:42] <mru> do you feel like paying for the privilege (?) of mingling with people in suits?
  • [17:33:56] <alan_o> I've only seen one guy in a suit at ELC
  • [17:34:26] <alan_o> Depends on the definition of VIP
  • [17:34:36] <mru> some people are suits even when they do not physically wear one
  • [17:34:37] <mranostay> i don't trust people in suits :)
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  • [17:35:20] <alan_o> From the ELC crowd, I'd say the VIP's are the Greg K-H's, Arnd Bergmann's, and Mike Anderson's
  • [17:35:36] <alan_o> In that case, sure.
  • [17:35:52] <alan_o> In the case of suits, pass, and I'll hang out with the hackers.
  • [17:36:04] <mru> mike anderson does not really belong in that crowd, unless you're talking about a different one
  • [17:36:14] <alan_o> Keynote from ELC SF
  • [17:36:27] <alan_o> I thought I got his name right.....
  • [17:36:29] <mru> he's all hot air
  • [17:36:43] <dm8tbr> mranostay: don't trust me then. (just as an example)
  • [17:36:54] <alan_o> Think so? I like him. Had several good conversations with him.
  • [17:39:30] <mru> try discussing something deeply technical
  • [17:40:09] <mru> we're talking about the fat guy from PTR Group or something like that, right?
  • [17:40:39] <alan_o> He's a heavy guy. Yes from PTR.
  • [17:41:18] <alan_o> Well, to each his own. It takes all kinds, they say. I think there are people we can learn from, even if they aren't exactly the same type of hacker we are.
  • [17:41:54] <alan_o> I actually find it refreshing to have conversations about things other than what I talk about all the time.
  • [17:42:19] <mru> sure, as do I
  • [17:42:34] <mru> but I don't give presentations at conferences on topics I clearly know nothing about
  • [17:43:06] <mru> his talk at ELC 2011 was so full of misinformation it wasn't even funny
  • [17:43:27] <mru> maybe he's better off giving keynotes
  • [17:43:35] <mru> nobody expects them to have any real content anyway
  • [17:43:37] <alan_o> He's a guy who knows about a lot of different stuff, rather than knowing all the way to the bottom of one thing. I liked his talk because it got me thinking about things which I don't often think about. Apparently you had a different reaction. It takes all kinds. Anyway, I didn't want to get into a whole thing about it.
  • [17:44:26] <mru> it struck me as odd to mention him alongside greg and arnd
  • [17:44:38] <mru> they are in a completely different league
  • [17:45:35] <alan_o> They're quite different, no doubt about it. I was trying to compile a list of people I like who seem to be heavy hitters.
  • [17:47:10] <alan_o> I pretty much assume everyone at those conferences knows far more than I do.
  • [17:47:55] <alan_o> I think that's a trap though. People talk about what they know, and it's easy to start to apply collective knowledge to everyone you see. Human nature I suppose, maybe it's just me.
  • [17:49:58] <john3909> jkridner_: I posted the answer to what you need to build cloud9 on v0.8.9 on #cloud9ide
  • [17:50:00] <mranostay> mru: you have no tact :)
  • [17:50:19] <mru> mranostay: I call it being honest
  • [17:50:23] <alan_o> I remember reading about a psych experiment where one person was told to interview another person about whatever the interviewing person wanted. So clearly they'd ask about stuff they knew, but not what the interviewee would know. Afterward they asked both what they though of the other. The interviewees thought the interviewers were smart, and the interviewers thought the interviewees were dumb. I think that happens often in real life.
  • [17:51:00] <alan_o> should have re-read that.... Too many pronouns.
  • [17:52:01] <mru> I don't have much faith in such experiments, but you have a point
  • [17:52:47] <mranostay> so if i think my interviewer is dumb i did good? :)
  • [17:53:16] <alan_o> maybe?
  • [17:53:21] <alan_o> I don't know if there's a right and wrong.
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  • [17:54:06] <alan_o> I know how mru would respond :)
  • [17:54:24] <mru> and how might that be?
  • [17:54:45] <alan_o> You'd say the interviewer was dumb :)
  • [17:55:05] <alan_o> That's not fair though. I shouldn't say that ....
  • [17:55:34] <mru> if you think the interviewer is dumb, there are two possibilities: 1) you are much dumber than him, or 2) you are much smarter than him
  • [17:56:30] * mranostay would love to be a fly on the wall of a mru interview :)
  • [17:56:58] * mru makes note to bring flyswatter to future interviews
  • [17:58:15] <mranostay> hehe
  • [18:02:03] <mranostay> you have beer mailed to you?
  • [18:02:23] <mru> you got a problem with that?
  • [18:02:41] <mranostay> i never have a problem with beer :)
  • [18:02:54] <mru> most of those beers are not sold in stores around here
  • [18:02:59] <mranostay> i just never heard of shipping it
  • [18:03:23] <mru> order online from the brewery
  • [18:03:50] <mranostay> never have to leave the house :P
  • [18:04:42] <mranostay> mru: what is the shipping on a 6 pack?
  • [18:05:22] <mru> shipping fee is per box of 24 bottles
  • [18:06:55] <mru> from brewdog, that is
  • [18:07:41] <Russ> alan_o, was the guy in the suit at ELC me?
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  • [18:09:49] <alan_o> Russ: Don't remember you in a suit specifically. I'm not sure we met. I didn't send you an email, which means I didn't get a card, but that doesn't mean anything.....
  • [18:09:58] <alan_o> The guy I remember in a suit was Gene Sally in 2011.
  • [18:10:08] <alan_o> May have been a sport jacket.
  • [18:11:00] <alan_o> In fact, his talk got me interested in doing 802.15.4.
  • [18:11:06] <Russ> then not me
  • [18:12:06] <alan_o> He gave a talk about doing zigbee, but he was using those controllers that do it all in hardware (since there's no in-kernel zigbee support) from userspace.
  • [18:15:51] <mranostay> ok i think i was in that
  • [18:16:12] <mranostay> Russ: what was with the suit? :)
  • [18:17:12] <Russ> just trying to look professional
  • [18:18:30] <ynezz> then carry rpi badge
  • [18:18:47] <alan_o> Those are tough choices to make. There is fashion even in the geek world... It's just different. See, even the hardest-core among us is criticizing clothing :-D
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  • [18:32:08] <mranostay> the only fashion in the geek world is the lack of it
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  • [18:33:34] <mru> the only clothing choices I criticise are those chosen to give the impression you are something you're not
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  • [18:52:39] <Russ> if ((cpu_is_omap34xx() && !cpu_is_am33xx())) o_O
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  • [18:59:44] <Russ> the extra parens are there just to be really sure
  • [19:00:09] <woglinde> ah okay
  • [19:03:57] <mdp> Russ, there's plenty of those left upstream too...conveniently changed to soc_is_am33xx() to protect the innocent
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  • [19:10:36] <mdp> more cowbell
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  • [19:19:28] <mranostay> woglinde: more is better right?
  • [19:20:21] <mranostay> at least that what i got out my last job interview :P
  • [19:21:12] <mru> was that for a lisp position?
  • [19:23:02] <mranostay> god people can really eff up a u-boot config
  • [19:23:21] <mru> god people? like priests and such?
  • [19:25:27] <mranostay> put a comma ^
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  • [19:38:49] <woglinde> mranostay what was the job description?
  • [19:40:36] <prpplague> woglinde: "work closely with long handled floor cleaning utilities and liquid clean solution transportation equipment"
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  • [19:41:51] <woglinde> +you
  • [19:42:19] <prpplague> woglinde: hehe
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  • [21:45:04] <_av500_> prpplague: pong
  • [21:45:10] <_av500_> prpplague: we got that ram config
  • [21:45:17] <_av500_> ping me monday
  • [21:45:48] <prpplague> _av500_: do you have a good u-boot emif/lisa configuration?
  • [21:47:12] <woglinde> lisa?
  • [21:47:32] <_av500_> simson?
  • [21:47:53] <_av500_> prpplague: i found your part number in our boot loader code
  • [21:48:05] <prpplague> _av500_: ahh
  • [21:48:08] <_av500_> so it means we used that ram part
  • [21:48:16] <_av500_> ill ask on monday about it
  • [21:48:22] <_av500_> the ram guy was away today
  • [21:48:22] <prpplague> _av500_: ok thanks
  • [21:48:31] <_av500_> ping me lest i forget
  • [21:48:38] <prpplague> _av500_: will do
  • [21:48:58] <_av500_> k
  • [21:49:11] <_av500_> elce is all booked and registered
  • [21:49:21] <prpplague> _av500_: dandy!
  • [21:49:24] <mru> woglinde: Local Interconnect and Synchronization Agent
  • [21:50:32] <mru> sits between pat and robin
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  • [23:29:14] <alan_o> ugh
  • [23:29:42] <alan_o> went out for a run. Got 200 feet out and it started pouring rain
  • [23:31:54] <mru> that's to motivate you to run faster
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