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  • [01:35:06] <veneco> hello... is somebody that use ubuntu + qt + tslib on beagle??
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  • [02:50:39] <mranostay> veneco: your question is?
  • [02:53:13] <veneco> mranostay: I compiled tslib on my laptop and then compiled qt embedded 4.8.2 .... I installed into my beagle both
  • [02:53:32] <mranostay> er ok
  • [02:54:07] <veneco> but... when I run a demo program... I can't use mouse or touchscreen
  • [02:55:19] <veneco> so, DO I need use some option when I run the demo?
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  • [08:00:25] <av500> koen: http://mitchtech.net/raspberry-pi-arduino-spi/
  • [08:00:36] <av500> no bitbanging!
  • [08:01:20] <ant_work> gangbitting?
  • [08:01:39] <av500> -t
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  • [08:53:41] <janne> koen: and no workaround in sw possible or allowed?
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  • [08:55:59] <janne> av500: in related news: I've fixed the usb host problem. the controller sets the connection change status after a port reset and nvidia forgot to add the workaround clearing it in their newest usb rewrite
  • [08:56:03] <koen> janne: the best I can do is print a warning saying "Press the right button 3 times if you want to go left"
  • [08:56:54] <koen> the left button gpio is pulled high by another board
  • [08:57:01] <janne> don't let av500 daughter design the hardware
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  • [08:59:18] <av500> janne: why not?
  • [08:59:20] <av500> ah
  • [08:59:23] <av500> well
  • [08:59:29] <av500> she's not even 2
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  • [12:20:50] <koen> tasslehoff: not that I know off
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  • [12:34:50] <Phasip> I have an beagleboard xM and a bluesmirf, will it be easy to set up filetransfer with a cellphone with theese? How should I connect the bluesmirf to the board?
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  • [12:47:58] <LetoThe2nd> Phasip: check the bbxms SRM and pick the relevant serial ports, for first :)
  • [12:48:30] <LetoThe2nd> (as for the "easy" part of the question, the answer varies for the respective definitions of "easy")
  • [12:51:36] <koen> bluesmirf isn't real bluetooth
  • [12:51:45] <koen> it's a dedicated SPP thing
  • [12:52:05] <koen> so it just forwards the data out of your serial port
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  • [12:52:21] <koen> so filetransfer will have to be e.g. kermit or slip
  • [12:52:26] <LetoThe2nd> koen: SPP as is Specially Prepared Phenomenon?
  • [12:52:58] <koen> serial port profile
  • [12:53:10] <LetoThe2nd> aw.
  • [12:53:10] <koen> like those xbee dongles the arduino folks love
  • [12:53:23] <LetoThe2nd> xbee? like in zigbee?
  • [12:53:34] * LetoThe2nd tries not to barf onto his desktop
  • [12:53:41] <koen> xbee is to zigbee what TWI is to I2C
  • [12:53:55] <koen> same thing, no license costs associated with name
  • [12:54:16] <koen> LetoThe2nd: but I'm specifically talking about those wireless serial cables
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  • [12:54:29] <LetoThe2nd> koen: using zigbee in the same sentence as i2c is quite derogatory. i mean i2c works.
  • [12:54:59] <LetoThe2nd> koen: hey, lets call that "WSC", make up a brand and sell it for $BIGCASH
  • [12:55:19] <koen> we need someone good looking to handle our social media
  • [12:55:47] <LetoThe2nd> hm. volunteers?
  • [12:56:35] <koen> I think we need someone with a hercule poirot moustache, horn rimmed glasses and a white v-neck t-shirt
  • [12:56:52] <LetoThe2nd> i don't think guerilla marketing works here.
  • [12:57:01] <koen> or go with the tried and tested formula: cute girl
  • [12:57:28] <LetoThe2nd> we should specifically not target nerds or technically knowledgeable people. prime target should be PHBs
  • [12:57:42] <LetoThe2nd> hence, cute girl. preferably a multitude of them.
  • [12:58:28] <LetoThe2nd> i mean, we're no interested in technically correct and valuable reviews and articles. we want $BIGCASH
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  • [13:01:01] <LetoThe2nd> ...sounds like a "Bad Romance"(TM) after all.
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  • [14:01:06] <Crofton> koen, did you see ht elink about Pfizer being corrupt?
  • [14:04:00] <av500> a company corrupt?
  • [14:04:03] <av500> unpossible
  • [14:04:03] <mdp> koen, you don't need a person with a moustache as long as you run their photo through jkridner's app.
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  • [14:16:44] <koen> Crofton: yes
  • [14:16:50] <koen> FCPA :)
  • [14:17:06] <Crofton> I figured you would be amused
  • [14:17:14] <koen> I was
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  • [14:29:35] <Crofton> A friend of ours moved to Enschede
  • [14:29:55] <Crofton> He'll probably put a Dutch trombonist out of work
  • [14:30:27] <koen> lots of them are out of work already
  • [14:30:46] <koen> culture is a "left wing hobby" and lost most of its government funding
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  • [14:32:33] <Crofton> if you ever get up thay way, you should stop in and check on him
  • [14:32:47] <Crofton> I'm sure his parents will want to know if he is behaving :)
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  • [14:46:39] <av500> Crofton: they heard about these "Coffee shops" they have over there?
  • [14:46:54] <joelagnel> koen, has audio been validated on the dvi cape?
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  • [14:52:24] <koen> joelagnel: there's no audio on the dvi cape, only on the dvi+audio and audio cape
  • [14:52:44] <koen> joelagnel: but yes, audio out works on the dvi+audio and audio capes
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  • [15:07:34] <shawn> I have a BB xm rev C. I'm trying to get output to the monitor on the dvi. I've been searching around with google, but no luck so far. anyone able to assist or point me in a direction
  • [15:15:22] <agmlego> shawn: You need an HDMI to DVI adapter.
  • [15:15:38] <agmlego> YOu also need to be running a distro that produces output over DVI.
  • [15:15:51] <agmlego> Like the Angstrom demo that came with the board.
  • [15:16:19] <shawn> i have the adapter. i'm using linux-3.4.6 which has the dss subsystem
  • [15:16:50] <shawn> sorry, i should have put that up before
  • [15:16:50] <agmlego> What distro is running on top of the linux kernel 3.4.6?
  • [15:17:36] <shawn> nothing. I used buildroot to roll everything together.
  • [15:18:00] <agmlego> Ah.
  • [15:18:19] <agmlego> Try the Angstrom demo that came with the board, and ensure the hardware and con nection is working.
  • [15:18:36] <agmlego> Past that, figure out what parts of thye system you left out in the buildroot step.
  • [15:18:55] <shawn> ok.
  • [15:19:25] <shawn> i'll give it a shot
  • [15:20:07] <agmlego> Good luck.
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  • [15:43:21] <tripolar> hi
  • [15:43:49] <mru> lo
  • [15:44:45] <tripolar> after i installled ubuntu-11.10-r12-minimal-armel-2012-07-29 to my sdcard i get this error when booting
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  • [15:44:49] <tripolar> http://paste.debian.net/183388/
  • [15:44:56] <tripolar> is this an hw error - or is this a known bug?
  • [15:45:05] <tripolar> i have a beaglebone rev A6
  • [15:45:15] <tripolar> und how can i fix it?
  • [15:45:25] <tripolar> i allso tried 12. something and it also doesnt work
  • [15:45:39] <tripolar> the beaglebard-xm is working as it should ...
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  • [15:45:54] <tripolar> i downloaded the image from here
  • [15:45:56] <tripolar> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Precise_12.04_armhf
  • [15:46:06] <tripolar> or at least i used this documentation
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  • [16:25:13] <mranostay> damn monday's
  • [16:25:19] * mranostay blames mru
  • [16:25:39] * mru blames ibm
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  • [16:26:30] * mdp wonders if ibm is respondible for blue christmas as well
  • [16:26:37] <mdp> responsible, even
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  • [16:26:49] <mru> http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54245
  • [16:26:59] <mru> ^^ someone at ibm broke gcc
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  • [16:28:38] <mdp> bah, I was thinking "blue monday", but I'm happy to blame ibm [and canada] for gcc breakage too
  • [16:31:33] <mdp> mranostay, any geiger hacking this weekend?
  • [16:32:20] <mranostay> assembled part of them on Sunday
  • [16:33:24] <mdp> did you order extra tubes that you want to get rid of?
  • [16:35:38] <mranostay> well they are in europe right now :)
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  • [16:36:56] <mdp> ugh, I figured you had some sub-portion of the group buy..bah
  • [16:37:05] <mdp> I should have found a use for this earlier ;)
  • [16:37:39] <mdp> we were exploring a thought about a little radiation wardriving around the nuke plants here
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  • [16:39:20] <veneco_> hi
  • [16:39:27] * mranostay hides
  • [16:39:58] <veneco_> Is anybody use ubuntu with LCD touchscreen?
  • [16:40:09] <mranostay> no that is an insane combo
  • [16:41:04] <veneco_> Is anybody use ubuntu with LCD7" touchscreen?
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  • [16:53:51] <mru> mranostay: has there ever been a lack of insane people?
  • [16:54:19] <mru> mdp: there's no more radiation around a nuclear power plant than elsewhere
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  • [16:54:35] <mru> they don't usually build them on top of uranium deposits
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  • [17:05:35] <mranostay> mru: i pictured it like a coal plant. just shoveling ore into the core :)
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  • [17:08:07] <mru> if you go inside, the radiation you're likely to be exposed to is actually less than outdoor background radiation
  • [17:08:33] <mru> unless there's a breach in the core containment
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  • [17:12:04] <mranostay> mru: stop raining on mdp's parade
  • [17:12:12] <mdp> mranostay, he's not
  • [17:13:20] <mdp> the dosimeters used for maintenance workers doing electrical wiring and pipefitting work during shut-down regularly show higher than background radiation during the checks..
  • [17:15:28] <mdp> and yes, as long as there's also plenty of water in the spent fuel rod ponds...no issue ;)
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  • [17:16:55] <mranostay> mdp: like how it takes 5-10 years to cool those down
  • [17:17:22] <mranostay> didn't that happend to fukushima?
  • [17:17:39] <mdp> they just keep making more pools at our plant...been doing that since I was in grade school taking tours there
  • [17:20:35] * reanguiano looks, hopes nobody is making homemade dosimeters with beagle
  • [17:21:21] <agmlego> Why?
  • [17:23:26] <mranostay> reanguiano: sure
  • [17:23:38] * wmat waves hello at reanguiano
  • [17:24:17] <mdp> mranostay, yes, the water supply in the pools went low during the disaster there. iirc, some countries encase the spent rods unlike .us
  • [17:25:08] * reanguiano waves to wmat
  • [17:25:33] <mranostay> reanguiano: i didn't know you lurked in here :)
  • [17:25:40] <reanguiano> mranostay: :)
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  • [17:26:51] <mru> in sweden the spent fuel is kept in a pool just outside the reactor enclosure for a few weeks until the worst radiation has died down
  • [17:26:59] <reanguiano> I suppose there is no harm in homemade dosimeters if you are a hobbyist with access to hobbyist materials.
  • [17:27:02] <mru> then they move it to some underground caverns
  • [17:27:28] <reanguiano> But if you are regulated by the NRC or a similar body I would think they would frown on such things.
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  • [17:28:04] <mranostay> reanguiano: well duh :)
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  • [17:28:31] * mranostay is sure this cape will have a legal CYA in the box :)
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  • [17:28:59] <mdp> mru, we still have no long-term storage facility here...it stays in the pools long-term
  • [17:29:35] <mranostay> mdp: well we have that one mountain :)
  • [17:29:40] <mru> those caverns aren't suitable for very long term storage either
  • [17:29:59] <mru> they've been debating for the last 30 years what to do when they fill up
  • [17:30:00] <mdp> mranostay, still, no go
  • [17:30:21] <agmlego> mranostay: Yucca? No, they nixed that a few years ago.
  • [17:30:45] <agmlego> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yucca_Mountain_nuclear_waste_repository
  • [17:30:51] <agmlego> Cancelled in 2010.
  • [17:31:12] <mdp> mranostay, there's issues in convincing everybody to let that waste travel through their states alone besides nobody wanting the facility in their backyard
  • [17:32:28] <mranostay> nobody lives in Nevada :)
  • [17:33:25] <mdp> mmm...right
  • [17:33:52] <mdp> tons of people live in the cities that the rails pass though from all corners though ;)
  • [17:35:31] <mdp> mranostay, I think everybody's just waiting for Unicorn-powered turbines to solve the problem
  • [17:35:43] <mranostay> heh
  • [17:35:54] <agmlego> Molten-salt reactors would help. ;-P
  • [17:37:26] <mdp> I hope salt doesn't become the ingredient for energy production ;) too many people would move here
  • [17:38:35] <reanguiano> s/Unicorn/Nyan Cat/
  • [17:38:42] <agmlego> mdp: I doubt your area specialises in thorium-flouride salt.
  • [17:42:21] <mdp> agmlego, absolutely not ;) I'm feeling confident that NaCl will remain boringly essential to only existing use cases.
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  • [17:45:16] <mranostay> mdp: well they do have sodium cooled reactors
  • [17:45:37] <mdp> right, it's used in that process for lots of types of reactors...
  • [17:45:50] <mranostay> very dangerous since Na burns in the air and explodes with water :)
  • [17:45:59] <mdp> like water it's a boringly essential tool
  • [17:49:37] <mdp> several of those metals work well to liberate hydrogen...though mostly only Na is easily obtainable in a high school chem lab.
  • [17:51:48] <mdp> mranostay, you should feel a few granules of Na on your skin...
  • [17:52:00] <mdp> you're sweatier than you might think
  • [17:53:31] <mranostay> did this turn into #chemistry? :)
  • [17:53:58] * reanguiano was a fan of alt.cesium way back when
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  • [18:14:39] <osu> So if I have an 2 SD cards, one configured correctly. I can use dd to make a copy using the command sudo dd if=/dev/sdX of=/dev/sdY correct?
  • [18:15:20] <mru> sure
  • [18:15:44] <osu> cool, As soon as my SD card reader starts working I'll try it
  • [18:15:55] <thurbad> as long as they're the same size
  • [18:16:02] <mru> target should be at least as large as source of course
  • [18:16:14] <thurbad> you can also transfer to your hard drive and back to the new card
  • [18:16:22] <osu> They're both 4GB so it should be okay
  • [18:16:50] <thurbad> not all 4GB are the same bit size bit for bit
  • [18:16:51] <mru> not all gigabytes are created equal
  • [18:17:33] <thurbad> even among the same brand there are sometimes differences :/
  • [18:17:39] <osu> Well, that would upset me. Hopefully they are the same.
  • [18:18:12] <mru> it's easy enough to check
  • [18:18:30] <thurbad> as long as it's not the boot partition, tar should work
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  • [18:19:01] <agmlego> hdparm is a good thing.
  • [18:19:05] <osu> how do I check and how do I tar?
  • [18:19:14] <thurbad> I use tar on rootfs frequently
  • [18:19:33] <agmlego> osu: hdparm might give you the info, or fdisk.
  • [18:19:47] <osu> Thank you agmlego
  • [18:19:51] <mru> or dmesg
  • [18:19:52] <thurbad> check the man page for tar if you still have question ask
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  • [18:48:18] <mdp> reanguiano: I was an alt.pave.the.earth believer more than anything
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  • [18:50:04] <phh> av500: hey, could i use a bit of your ducati/dce knowledge ? :D
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  • [19:07:25] <mranostay> mdp: cute
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  • [20:01:33] <veneco> hi
  • [20:04:13] <veneco> I have ubuntu 12.04 into my beaglebone with a BeagleBone LCD7.... and I would like to use the touchscreen support... but, I don't know what driver I need to install it.....
  • [20:07:26] <tripolar> hi
  • [20:07:37] <tripolar> i have a beaglebone rev A6
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  • [20:08:12] <tripolar> after i installled ubuntu-11.10-r12-minimal-armel-2012-07-29 to my sdcard i get this error when booting
  • [20:08:13] <tripolar> http://paste.debian.net/183388/
  • [20:09:00] <tripolar> i used the docu from here - http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Precise_12.04_armhf - i also have a beagelboard-xm and it is working as expected - is this a heardware fault of the beagleboard or can i do something about it?
  • [20:09:15] <tripolar> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu
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  • [20:47:32] <mranostay> _av500_: btw that snake cake freaks me out
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  • [21:20:33] <educa> Hi, I found how to setup muxing to use uart2 and accessing it somehow using /dev/ttyO2 , but can somebody tell me how I should set the baudrate for uarts on a beaglebone?
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  • [22:08:10] <veneco_> hi
  • [22:10:09] <veneco> I have a beaglebone with LCD7" and ubuntu 12.04 distro. I compiled QT 4.8.2 embedded libs ....but my mouse, keyboard an touchscreen don't works
  • [22:12:20] <veneco> how can I configure it for use it? I use "-qt-kbd-tty -qt-kbd-linuxinput -qt-kbd-qvfb -qt-mouse-pc -qt-mouse-linuxtp -qt-mouse-linuxinput -qt-mouse-tslib -qt-mouse-qvfb "options when I compiled embedded qt libs
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  • [22:22:07] <veneco> i run my program with this command: ./app -qws -mouse
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  • [23:03:41] <thos37> anyone here done any i2c with a beaglebone?
  • [23:09:33] <mranostay> possible
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  • [23:34:10] <thos37> i have an i2c LED controller connected to the bone's I2C2 on pins 19&20 of exp connector 9 (using 4.7k pull-ups on the SCL and SDA). if I do an "i2cdetect -l 3" it shows up at its expected address (0x41). When I do "i2cget 3 65 0" multiple times, I get "read error" and then occasionally an 0x11 which doesn't match the default state of the 0x00 register. Any thoughts on why i2cget might be failing and why when it does work, it returns a fun
  • [23:34:10] <thos37> value?
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  • [23:56:58] <prpplague> just fyi, feedback on a possible PandaBoard-NC can be posted on the pandaboard mailing list which also includes a mockup - https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/pandaboard/dLXGzHYdLjw%5B1-25%5D