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  • [00:47:06] <KeatonT> 5V 3.6A DC power supply for the bone. Safe?
  • [00:47:11] <KeatonT> or to much?
  • [00:47:30] <raymohi> Safe so long as it is 5volts
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  • [00:47:51] <KeatonT> yep 5V
  • [00:48:08] <raymohi> Then it is good :)
  • [00:48:08] <KeatonT> The amps is more just how much current can be supplied when needed.
  • [00:48:13] <ds2> is it 5V +/-0.0000000001V from 0 to 3.6A?
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  • [00:49:36] <jgalt> where can I find sources for pv? my google foo is failing me. want to compile it for angstrom as it appears not to be in the angstrom repos
  • [00:49:52] <raymohi> pv?
  • [00:50:40] <raymohi> jgalt: pipeviewer?
  • [00:51:03] <KeatonT> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7323462/Photo%20May%2018%2C%207%2049%2005%20PM.jpg
  • [00:51:44] <KeatonT> ^^ ds2 raymohi
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  • [00:54:17] <KeatonT> good?
  • [00:54:30] <jgalt> raymohi: probably pipeviewer, that seems to be what it's supposed to do
  • [00:54:37] <raymohi> As far as i can tell yes
  • [00:54:44] <raymohi> jgalt: http://www.ivarch.com/programs/pv.shtml
  • [00:59:40] <jgalt> on angstrom beaglebone where should the compiled pv binary be placed? /bin, ,/sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, where?
  • [01:05:04] <ds2> KeatonT: no idea. problem is a cheap/poorly built supply could put out more then 5V when underloaded and only get down to 5V when loaded up to spec
  • [01:05:20] <KeatonT> yea
  • [01:05:26] <KeatonT> It seems to be working okay.
  • [01:05:55] <KeatonT> This power supply is from a USB Hub.
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  • [01:24:19] <jgalt> ok, dosfstools installed from unstable, pv compiled and installed from source, anyone know where I can find sources for mkfs.btrfs (or the btrfs-tools pkg) and mkimg (or the package uboot-mkimage) for angstrom
  • [01:27:11] <raymohi> https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Btrfs_source_repositories
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  • [01:42:34] <jgalt> raymohi: seems the above is how to compile kernel support. I just want to create the filesystem
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  • [02:07:22] <KeatonT> Okay this doesn't make any sense to me.
  • [02:07:35] <KeatonT> I'm working with the beaglebone.
  • [02:08:00] <KeatonT> Trying to send a digital high signal down the line.
  • [02:08:22] <KeatonT> a line*
  • [02:08:24] <KeatonT> to an arduino
  • [02:08:32] <KeatonT> and have the arduino read high or low.
  • [02:08:59] <KeatonT> I even plugged the pin from the bone to the arduino analog pins
  • [02:09:03] <KeatonT> just to readout the voltage
  • [02:09:08] <KeatonT> and it fluctuates like crazy
  • [02:10:15] <Russ> do you plug in ground?
  • [02:10:49] <KeatonT> yes
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  • [02:11:46] <Russ> did you very that the direction is set to output and the mux for that pin is configured correctly?
  • [02:12:14] <KeatonT> mode 7
  • [02:12:21] <KeatonT> set as output
  • [02:12:23] <KeatonT> direction out
  • [02:14:13] <KeatonT> lol figured it out
  • [02:14:17] <KeatonT> the ground was loose.
  • [02:16:27] <Russ> w00t
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  • [02:41:08] <mranostay> can't have the beer industry suffer as well :)
  • [02:41:43] <prpplague> indeed
  • [02:45:48] <prpplague> mranostay: i hope i feel better tomorrow, i have way too much work to do
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  • [03:55:33] <saliak> I'm getting up and running with my beagle bone and had a question about the gpios. I'm trying to use GPIO1_7 and GPIO1_12 as digital outs. I do an identical sequence of operations (with different pin numbers). When i'm done, GPIO1_12 works as a digital out, and GPIO1_7 does not (it remains forever high). any ideas what's going on?
  • [03:56:06] <saliak> is there something special about 1_7 and 1_3 (i see identical behavior in each of those)
  • [03:57:18] <mranostay> you exporting it correct?
  • [03:57:22] <mranostay> *correctly
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  • [03:57:34] <mranostay> i.e. mux setting isn't something else
  • [03:57:50] <saliak> yeah
  • [03:57:58] <saliak> i've found a post that says that it's not set to GPIO on boot
  • [03:58:07] <saliak> which is weird, because in the reference manual it looks like it is
  • [03:58:12] <mranostay> you sure you have it in the right pun
  • [03:58:13] <mranostay> *pin
  • [03:58:17] <saliak> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/beagleboard/oWulB8CO0gc
  • [03:58:27] <mranostay> drinking and typing sucks
  • [03:58:37] <saliak> :)
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  • [04:01:48] <saliak> it sounds like using bone script reconfigures GPIO to make that pin work
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  • [04:08:20] <prohitkpr> I am trying to bitbake gstreamer-ti.it gives me error Checksum mismatch
  • [04:08:34] <prohitkpr> can anyone suggest a solution
  • [04:12:56] <serekson> did you make the .bb file?
  • [04:16:12] <saliak> when you write to the mux configuration files (/sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux/), are the values supposed to be hex or dec?
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  • [04:18:47] <prohitkpr> I used command bit-bake gstreamer-ti
  • [04:19:09] <prohitkpr> sorry bitbake*
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  • [04:47:53] <nickjohnson> Is there any way to write to a cape's eeprom while it's attached? It seems the kernel keeps it open all the time
  • [04:48:01] <nickjohnson> Also, why doesn't I2C2 show up in the FS?
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  • [05:32:03] <Borillion> can anyone recommend a breakout that will step 5 to 1.8 for beagleboard/bone?
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  • [05:37:39] <serekson> Borillion: I got a level shifter from sparkfun
  • [05:37:57] <serekson> its the only one I could find that was throughhole so i could breadboard it easily
  • [05:38:33] <Borillion> k, I was looking at that but how do you get the 1.8 out on the lv side? I don't see how to set the output LV voltage ?
  • [05:38:52] <saliak> how does one remove the default web server that's running on the beagle bone angstrom distro?
  • [05:39:13] <saliak> i've installed lighthttpd, but i'm not sure what i need to remove to kill what's running on port 80 now
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  • [05:40:44] <serekson> Borillion: it looks like you might have to modify it a bit to go from 5 to 1.8
  • [05:40:53] <serekson> but its just resistors
  • [05:41:48] <serekson> looks like they are 0603 package so they are easily replacable
  • [05:42:32] <serekson> Borillion: do you need to go both ways? as in 5 to 1.8 and 1.8 to 5
  • [05:43:00] <serekson> because to go from 5 to 1.8 is just a simple resistive divider and you don't really need a level shifter for it
  • [05:48:01] <Borillion> no its going to have to be both ways
  • [05:48:18] <Borillion> I cant use a divider for this
  • [05:48:38] <Borillion> I was under the understanding everything on the beagle headers was at 1.8V
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  • [09:21:05] <blucalvin> How can I know which shell I'm using on my beagleoard-xm? I'm running ansgtrom.
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  • [09:25:12] <_av500_> ps
  • [09:26:10] <blucalvin> Oh.. That returned sh. I'm sorry but is 'sh' the same as 'bash'?
  • [09:26:18] <fierman> type $SHELL
  • [09:26:49] <fierman> sh is not bash, sh is most likely ash , and possibly you have busybox
  • [09:27:34] <blucalvin> Ummm.. Does that mean I cannot use .bashrc to set my environmental variables? That is how I do it on bash.
  • [09:30:16] <fierman> install bash, then export SHELL=/bin/bash
  • [09:30:26] <_av500_> ls -l /usr//sh
  • [09:30:30] <_av500_> ls -l /bin/sh
  • [09:31:18] <blucalvin> @_av500_ That shows sh -> busybox
  • [09:31:45] <blucalvin> @fireman Do I need to do that each time I restart my XM in order to use bash?
  • [09:31:59] <fierman> blucalvin: no, you can set that in your profile
  • [09:32:19] <fierman> and in /etc/passwd
  • [09:33:00] <blucalvin> Which profile wold that be?
  • [09:33:35] <fierman> http://stefaanlippens.net/bashrc_and_others
  • [09:33:46] <fierman> that will explain all you need to know now about bash
  • [09:34:10] <fierman> just remember to set default shell in /etc/passwd
  • [09:34:33] <blucalvin> Thanks. :) I'll do that. I wanted to set the http
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  • [09:35:00] <fierman> (i just googled. first result on 'profile bash' )
  • [09:35:12] <blucalvin> Thanks. :) I'll do that. I wanted to set the http_proxy variable in my .bashrc. That's when I found out that file was not there in my home folder.
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  • [09:46:29] <blucalvin> I put "export SHELL=/bin/bash" in my /etc/profile file. But after restarting, "ps" is showing "sh" and "echo $SHELL" is showing "/bin/bash". So which am I using now?
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  • [09:47:25] <aholler_> use chsh
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  • [09:48:53] <blucalvin> in chsh, I entered "/bin/bash" and still "ps" is showing "sh"
  • [09:49:14] <aholler> you have torelogin
  • [09:49:30] <blucalvin> Ah Alright.
  • [09:49:54] <blucalvin> Now it works. :)
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  • [14:24:10] <saliak> does it makes sense that installing mysql would break my ethernenet connection on the beagle bone with the default angstrom build?
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  • [14:25:04] <aholler> no
  • [14:27:51] <Tsvetan> Hi, I want to join the Beagleboard Google Group and requested approval but few days pass and still not approved, do you know how long it takes to review and apprve new members to the group?
  • [14:29:27] * koen stabs syscall table generators
  • [14:30:01] <saliak> awesome. hrm. dunno what would be going on. wanted to get a LAMP setup (well, LLMP, using lighthttpd).. got lighthttpd and php installed, but after installing mysql eth0 wouldn't com up. uninstalled it and things work fine.
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  • [14:31:33] <mru> that's weird even for mysql
  • [14:31:50] <mru> but isn't mysql a bit heavy for the bone?
  • [14:33:17] <aholler> maybe the systemd-integration of mysql is broken on the bone
  • [14:33:53] <aholler> s/bone/angstrom/
  • [14:34:32] <_av500_> why does it need systemd integration?
  • [14:34:39] <saliak> aholler: that's what i was thinking. i'mnot sure what though. maybe the order that it starts up or something? It did have a broken reference to something in init.d (/rcS) that i commented out
  • [14:34:56] <saliak> _av500_: to start the daemon at boot, yeah?
  • [14:35:04] <aholler> saliak: just try to disable it
  • [14:35:48] <aholler> you can always start it by hand
  • [14:36:04] <saliak> aholler: i already removed it. given it took like an hour to install, and I can use flat xml files for what i need to do, i think i'm going to skip it for now
  • [14:36:32] <aholler> so why you asked?
  • [14:36:40] <saliak> aholler: mostly just curious
  • [14:36:59] <serekson> can anyone recommend a kernel workflow other than the one on the angstrom homepage?
  • [14:36:59] <saliak> aholler: starting by hand (in my code) later probably makes sense. i bet its a timing thing
  • [14:37:34] <aholler> I had to change the start_ and shutdown_timeout on an armv5-system here
  • [14:37:59] <aholler> otherwise mysql didn't start inside the timeout because it needed to long
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  • [14:38:43] <aholler> but that depends on the init-script
  • [14:39:27] <aholler> and, off course, the system, e.g. where your dbs are living and such
  • [14:42:15] <saliak> aholler: i'm not familiar with the _timeouts. pointer to something that describes them?
  • [14:42:27] <aholler> the init-script
  • [14:43:07] <aholler> the one in gentoo e.g. checks for the existence of the control-socket to check if mysqld started
  • [14:43:41] <aholler> I don't know if that is included in the std-init-script of mysql too
  • [14:44:21] <saliak> aholler: i'm not sure i follow. are you referring to stuff in /etc/rcX.d? or /etc/init.d?
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  • [14:44:43] <aholler> I can't help you with that on angstrom
  • [14:45:05] <saliak> aholler: ok. yeah, i'm more familiar with ubuntu. this is all a little differenct
  • [14:48:05] <serekson> aholler: yesterday when I was having bitbake problems you suggested a different process for modifying the kernel. Is there a method you suggest?
  • [14:48:38] <aholler> serekson: the one everyone outside oe/angstrom uses, git and make
  • [14:49:00] <serekson> is there a guide you recommend to doing this?
  • [14:49:08] <serekson> the one on the angstrom homepage was really simple
  • [14:49:08] <aholler> thousands
  • [14:50:00] <aholler> git clone ...; make ...
  • [14:50:02] <serekson> I have been trying to get https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel to work, but I am having problems booting it
  • [14:51:10] <serekson> I think the issue is that uboot can't find it
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  • [14:53:35] <serekson> I need I need to use somethign like that to get the right patchset for the kernel?
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  • [14:58:12] <funkster> anyone familiar with a lower end single board computer for less then the price tag of beaglebone? no rpi either as I need 50+ ASAP
  • [14:58:59] <mru> what specs do you need?
  • [14:59:59] <funkster> all i would need is embedded linux and wifi - i will be perorming very low resource tasks, like making remote api calls and downloading images
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  • [15:22:34] <funkster> mru: you suggest anything to me to look into?
  • [15:22:50] <mru> what specs do you need?
  • [15:23:03] <mru> you said "low resource" but that could mean anything
  • [15:23:13] <mru> would an arm926 with 32MB ram do it?
  • [15:23:29] <mru> running at, say, 200MHz
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  • [15:24:05] <funkster> yeah that would be perfect 200mhz/32mb ram
  • [15:24:28] <mru> then there are probably hundreds of modules that would work
  • [15:24:40] <funkster> i dont think I would need any more then that for remote http calls and downloading small images so yeah.
  • [15:26:04] <mru> what software do you plan on running?
  • [15:26:11] <mru> and what will you do with the images?
  • [15:26:55] <funkster> debian would be ideal, the images will be sent over usb port to printer
  • [15:27:16] <mru> debian can mean anything
  • [15:27:36] <mru> but talk of usb printers is scary
  • [15:28:15] <funkster> if it works on desktop debian for usb printer, whats changing when I go to a arm board?
  • [15:28:17] <jannau> usb and printer usually means full processing of the print data on the host
  • [15:28:25] <mru> exactly
  • [15:28:28] <funkster> im new to the hardware world, im just average linux users
  • [15:28:47] <mru> which means you need enough ram to hold a full rasterised page
  • [15:28:52] <mru> preferably several pages
  • [15:28:54] <jannau> which printer? has it open source drivers?
  • [15:28:54] <funkster> ahhh gotcha!
  • [15:29:30] <funkster> jannau: if im not mistaken its a canon pixma - got it working on ubuntu without issues
  • [15:30:41] <funkster> so i will more then likely need more ram huh.
  • [15:36:27] <jannau> funkster: exact model? it might be only work with binary drivers from canon which are most likely only available for x86
  • [15:36:46] <mru> run them in qemu :)
  • [15:37:10] <funkster> dont have the printer infront of me at the moment - hmmmm
  • [15:37:30] <jannau> mru: on a 200mhz/32mb ram arm9?
  • [15:37:43] <funkster> there is an option for me to use another printer and send it via bluetooth i guess i will try both options
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  • [15:37:57] <mru> jannau: is that any crazier than running ubuntu on a beaglebone?
  • [15:39:00] <jannau> crazy on a different level and I would claim running ubuntu on any hardware is crazy
  • [15:39:48] <mru> exactly
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  • [15:40:29] <gerdi> perhaps there is an other way - I used it long time ago on an openwrt router. It was something like a printer-forwarding-pipe. I do not remember the name - sorry. but no printerdriver on the embedded device was needed.
  • [15:41:03] <ynezz> it's lpr
  • [15:41:12] <prpplague> koen: https://github.com/prpplague/fb-test-app/tags
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  • [15:42:43] <prpplague> koen: use commit 1547b55320db31eba7af4020f0ca0298ec42cef1
  • [15:42:52] <prpplague> koen: for the release, tag is v1.0.0
  • [15:44:00] <funkster> where can i purchase a low cost 200mhz/32mb arm board to test?
  • [15:44:13] <funkster> my googling is not giving me boards under 100 lol
  • [15:44:50] <prpplague> funkster: http://search.digikey.com/us/en/cat/programmers-development-systems/general-embedded-dev-boards-and-kits-mcu-dsp-fpga-cpld/2621773?k=beaglebone
  • [15:45:23] <funkster> prpplague: nah - looking for low end 200mhz boards so the price is much cheaper
  • [15:45:39] <prpplague> funkster: you will need to be more specific about "low end"
  • [15:45:53] <mru> prpplague: ok, you give it a try...
  • [15:46:15] <funkster> i will start out with what mru suggested 200mhz/32mb ram
  • [15:46:19] <prpplague> mru: ahh i assume it has been an ongoing issue
  • [15:46:22] <mru> I didn't suggest anything
  • [15:46:33] * prpplague is too busy to deal with stupid questions today
  • [15:46:41] <mru> those figures were just something I made up
  • [15:46:50] <funkster> How is it a stupid question... wtf?
  • [15:47:19] <funkster> you said how about xyz, i said ok to xyz - sorry if i called that suggesting...
  • [15:47:31] <mru> funkster: if you'd be a bit more precise in what what you intend to run than "debian", we'd be able to give better suggestions
  • [15:48:12] <funkster> yes im just confused on what info you will need - as stated, i will be downloading 1MB images and printering them via USB printer
  • [15:48:17] <funkster> thats pretty much it
  • [15:48:23] <mru> downloading with what?
  • [15:48:29] <mru> how will you know what to download?
  • [15:48:41] <mru> what printing software will you use?
  • [15:48:49] <mru> how will you tie it all together?
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  • [15:49:18] <funkster> I will make remote api calls via curl to get download url , so curl/bash/etc
  • [15:49:38] <mru> any kind of user interface?
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  • [15:50:13] <funkster> nope, user interface will be on the remote server
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  • [15:50:38] <jannau> that still doesn't resolve the printer driver/memory problem
  • [15:50:48] <funkster> agreed
  • [15:51:02] <mru> so how will this system know what to fetch?
  • [15:51:08] <jannau> what kind of pictures, printed on full a4/letter?
  • [15:51:12] <mru> periodic polling?
  • [15:51:39] <funkster> sure - i will cron a curl/bash script
  • [15:51:59] <mru> and that will fetch some images... what kind of images?
  • [15:52:01] <funkster> jannau: it will be 4x6 photos
  • [15:52:03] <mru> format? size?
  • [15:52:15] <funkster> photos - max size 1MB
  • [15:52:20] <funkster> jpeg
  • [15:52:27] <mru> how many pixels?
  • [15:52:39] <funkster> that would range drastically
  • [15:52:47] <jannau> maximum
  • [15:54:16] <funkster> lets say 1024x800 ish
  • [15:56:15] <mru> that's a bit small for a 6x4 print
  • [15:57:10] <funkster> it will be in a polaroid format - so some white space on bottom/sides
  • [15:57:56] <funkster> may even make 3x4 once i test some things
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  • [16:05:18] <funkster> yeaah - hmmmm
  • [16:06:11] <mru> do routers have usb ports these days?
  • [16:06:31] <jannau> they have since 5 years
  • [16:06:38] <mru> what for?
  • [16:07:01] <funkster> to connect usb storage
  • [16:07:11] <mru> storage on routers?
  • [16:07:12] <mru> wtf?
  • [16:07:17] <jannau> connect 3g, mass storage, printers, ...
  • [16:07:35] <mru> why would you want to do that?
  • [16:07:57] <funkster> "network" stoage and printer
  • [16:08:18] <jannau> think of it as slow combined router/server
  • [16:08:35] <mru> have people no sense any more?
  • [16:09:08] <jannau> but 3g modem as backup connection might be useful on a router
  • [16:09:24] <mru> yes, that I can agree with
  • [16:09:46] <mru> wouldn't do me a whole lot of good though
  • [16:10:00] <jannau> people lost sense in the last century, marketinng people a couple of decades earlier
  • [16:10:29] <mru> marketing people, isn't that term a bit contradictory?
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  • [16:22:32] <prpplague> koen: (yes it is a joke)
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  • [16:35:34] <aholler> since the 25-pin ports on printers started to disappear
  • [16:39:45] <funkster> i may just go mini-itx x86 route if im dealing with these printers
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  • [16:54:21] <prpplague> koen: you know what it is suppose to be right?
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