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  • [00:07:09] <ds2> mranostay: one of the electronics goldmine ones
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  • [00:10:07] <mazzanet> hmm
  • [00:10:20] <mazzanet> no one seems to have stock of the xm
  • [00:10:48] <ds2> just order one and see
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  • [00:25:10] <jay6981> prpplague: w3c schools?
  • [00:26:13] <prpplague> jay6981: hehe
  • [00:26:15] <prpplague> guess so
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  • [00:56:37] <Robdgreat> it's w3schools, unaffiliated with the w3c
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  • [01:00:18] <Robdgreat> it's just an unfortunate name choice that they've been unwilling to change despite repeated requests from the w3c
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  • [01:01:10] <mazzanet> Thank you for your order, Please give me a better application of the parts?
  • [01:01:11] <mazzanet> What are you using them for?
  • [01:01:16] <mazzanet> well done digikey
  • [01:01:30] <mazzanet> i would have thought "personal home experimental use" would have been enough...
  • [01:01:56] <Robdgreat> you're probably up to no good, though
  • [01:02:41] <Robdgreat> you have to prove to them otherwise!
  • [01:02:52] <Robdgreat> hm, I've never encountered that line of questioning from them
  • [01:03:22] <mranostay> "i have money i want to give to you for a product"
  • [01:05:12] <jay6981> "shut up and take my money!"
  • [01:05:17] <Robdgreat> ^^
  • [01:08:13] <mazzanet> i'm in australia
  • [01:08:17] <mazzanet> maybe they don't like us
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  • [01:31:33] <mycle_vername> hello, i need to do gpio reads and writes at 1MHz, does anyone have working code for this???
  • [01:31:48] <mycle_vername> i am using a beaglebone fyi
  • [01:32:12] <prpplague> i only have code at 1.21MHZ
  • [01:32:27] <mycle_vername> any chance you would send it to me??
  • [01:32:34] * prpplague chuckles
  • [01:32:50] <mycle_vername> prpplague: please :)
  • [01:33:00] <prpplague> mycle_vername: i was joking with you
  • [01:33:11] <mycle_vername> prpplague: so you don't have it?
  • [01:33:18] <prpplague> mycle_vername: are you coding from userspace or from kernel?
  • [01:33:36] <mycle_vername> user space right now, but i could go down to the kernel if need be
  • [01:33:44] <mycle_vername> i think i will need to go down to kernel space
  • [01:34:23] <prpplague> mycle_vername: how many gpios do you need to read/write to ?
  • [01:34:43] <mycle_vername> 2 reads and 4 writes
  • [01:35:43] <mycle_vername> prpplague: can you help me?
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  • [01:37:11] <mycle_vername> prpplague: sorry i got disconnected for a sec
  • [01:37:15] <prpplague> mycle_vername: that doesnt answer the number of gpios
  • [01:37:55] <mycle_vername> prpplague: 6 gpios
  • [01:38:19] <djlewis> prpplague: did you ride out the storm ok?
  • [01:38:54] <mycle_vername> prpplague: do you think you can help me?
  • [01:39:40] <prpplague> djlewis: yea, just killed my new fence
  • [01:39:53] <prpplague> mycle_vername: post to the mailing list and i will respond
  • [01:40:01] <djlewis> prpplague: bummer. Wood?
  • [01:40:18] <prpplague> djlewis: yea, new, it was destroyed 2 weeks ago, just replaced it
  • [01:40:56] <djlewis> prpplague: next time use pretrified wood posts and lumber ;)
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  • [01:42:01] <djlewis> prpplague: the left overs of your storm should be here ina a bit.
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  • [01:42:51] <djlewis> prpplague: any experience with the X-TRONIC" MODEL #4040 - 4000 SERIES hot air rework and solder station?
  • [01:43:12] <prpplague> djlewis: sorry no, doesn't ring a bell, but i am tired this evening
  • [01:44:04] <djlewis> prpplague: ok, find that bottle of rum and a big ol comfy chair :)
  • [01:44:14] <prpplague> :)
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  • [01:46:33] <mycle_vername> prpplague: i just sent out an email called Using BeagleBone GPIOs above 1Mz
  • [01:46:45] <mycle_vername> prpplague: i'd really appreciate any help
  • [01:46:51] <mycle_vername> same goes for other people :)
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  • [03:25:50] <ds2> history
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  • [04:26:44] <dhut> hi there
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  • [05:17:10] <XMPPwocky> hrmm
  • [05:17:31] <XMPPwocky> so to do a context switch
  • [05:18:10] <XMPPwocky> i need to save: r0-r15, the CPSR, VFP registers, NEON registers
  • [05:18:13] <XMPPwocky> anything else?
  • [05:18:41] <XMPPwocky> (well, it's the SPSR by the time we save it)
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  • [06:06:18] <ticks> do anybody have amsdk start here script
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  • [06:22:41] <mranostay> ticks: er?
  • [06:25:14] <djlewis> mranostay: injoyed the clanking, I think. time for bed
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  • [06:26:21] <mranostay> TMI!
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  • [06:27:33] <LetoThe2nd> FIQ
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  • [06:33:51] <XMPPwocky> oh
  • [06:34:03] <XMPPwocky> do neon and vfp share registers?
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  • [06:35:23] <_av500_> yes
  • [06:35:35] <_av500_> its a wild marriage
  • [06:35:42] <_av500_> or a green card scam
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  • [06:36:46] <XMPPwocky> wait, what?
  • [06:36:54] <XMPPwocky> :P
  • [06:37:24] <XMPPwocky> so then if I'm storing the extension registers (for a context switch), should I read them from NEON or from VFP?
  • [06:38:30] <hitlin37> you can simply do vld and vst
  • [06:40:50] <hitlin37> if you intended do to floating point calculation ,do something like vld.f32 or vld.f64....same for store
  • [06:43:24] <XMPPwocky> ah
  • [06:44:57] <XMPPwocky> so VSTM r0!, {q0-q15} would do the trick to save it?
  • [06:45:21] <XMPPwocky> *VSTMIA
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  • [06:51:45] <hitlin37> rule no 3.try and find out
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  • [06:57:51] <XMPPwocky> http://pastebin.com/CRr5rSpk yay, think I've done the saving state now
  • [07:04:08] <mranostay> awesome-o
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  • [08:33:35] <aholler> hmm, disabling "reset unused clocks" with 3.3. helps a bit, now the kernel seems to boot somewhat more.
  • [08:34:25] <aholler> I wonder if someone actually tests new kernel versions with a beagleboard ;)
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  • [08:40:50] <aholler> [ 0.051727] omap_hwmod: usbtll_fck: missing clockdomain for usbtll_fck.
  • [08:41:26] <aholler> [ 0.096862] usbhs_omap: alias fck already exists
  • [08:41:29] <aholler> that might be the reason that ehci doesn't work
  • [08:41:55] <aholler> and: [ 0.147796] BUG: Bad page state in process rcu_kthread pfn:8f0c4
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  • [08:44:22] * ynezz hands "omap is fucked" clubcard to aholler
  • [08:44:39] <aholler> i have one already
  • [08:44:59] <ynezz> this one is gold!
  • [08:45:20] <aholler> mine is 2a old
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  • [08:45:41] <av500> aholler: mru pasted the same error already
  • [08:45:55] <aholler> yes, but I was unable to come that far
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  • [08:46:23] <aholler> but don't reseting unused clocks brought me there too
  • [08:47:09] <aholler> so hunting the usb-clock ;)
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  • [08:57:12] <aholler> maybe I could sell an "how to build an automatic minimal beagleborg-linux-kernel-tester" to ti ;)
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  • [08:59:05] <chirag> can any pls provide some pointers towards using interrupt based gpio on beaglebone & nodejs
  • [08:59:35] <aholler> yesterday I've read an article about the m0+, I wonder when 0.9v-devices will come ;)
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  • [09:01:44] <aholler> armuinos
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  • [09:04:13] <aholler> powered through the livetime by a coin-cell.
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  • [09:19:19] <anand_> hi.. i am trying to build gstreamer-ti on angstrom. I am getting the fololowing error http://pastebin.com/mtkQWuWR
  • [09:20:23] <anand_> I have copied the setup files of cgt,bios and xdctools in downloads folder but still i am getting the same error
  • [09:21:22] <russell--> do_fetch soft of implies it could download the source tarball or whatever
  • [09:21:31] <russell--> could *not*
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  • [09:28:09] <kvarley> Does the Angstrom test image for the BeagleBoard-xM come with the NEON gpu video decoding drivers installed?
  • [09:29:50] <av500> anand_: Fetcher failure for URL: 'http://install.source.dir.local/ti_cgt_c6000_7.2.7_setup_linux_x86.bin;name=cgt6xbin'. Unable to fetch URL from any source.
  • [09:30:08] <av500> anand_: as far as I know, you need to download the cgtools yourself
  • [09:30:14] <av500> since its behind click-thru eula
  • [09:30:25] <av500> and place it somewhere
  • [09:30:43] <av500> I did that once, but I forgot it all
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  • [09:33:00] <anand_> av500 : ok i will try that
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  • [09:39:45] <mru> aholler: I have CONFIG_OMAP_RESET_CLOCKS=y
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  • [09:47:41] <aholler> hmm, anyway, i need that clock. ;)
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  • [10:02:42] <aholler> usbtll_fck doesn't have clkdm_name defined
  • [10:05:28] <aholler> hmpf, it's annoying to browse through the every change foo
  • [10:05:44] <aholler> s/change/changing/
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  • [10:22:39] <aholler> I just asumme omap3 is eol ;)
  • [10:22:56] <av500> mainline o3 is
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  • [10:23:08] <aholler> so I need to get a rpi
  • [10:23:34] <aholler> bsol (before start of life) ;)
  • [10:23:36] <av500> everybody needs one
  • [10:23:42] <av500> it cures cancer
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  • [10:26:12] <aholler> hmm, everytime I boot Iget something new. now I have a self-healing kernel: [ 0.140686] Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed!
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  • [10:29:46] <aholler> at least the kernel is now happy to have a clockdomain for usbtll_fck ;)
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  • [10:35:13] <aholler> but it's not funny to make stupid patches with half knowledge.
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  • [10:38:34] <aholler> btw, I've just seen that comment: /* for OMAP3 , the clk set paretn fails */
  • [10:38:59] <av500> typical parenting fail
  • [10:39:04] <av500> and they always blame the kids
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  • [10:41:54] <aholler> so I think I'm going to do other things
  • [10:42:18] <av500> prepare easter eggs
  • [10:42:39] <aholler> good idea, I build an easter-eggs-painter with my lego nxt
  • [10:43:30] <aholler> or playing with the launchpad or something similiar time-wasting stuff ;)
  • [10:45:16] <aholler> maybe buying a tegra3 to have something else to rant about ;
  • [10:49:21] <jannau> aholler: if tegra2 is enough I can recommend LG for ranting
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  • [10:50:15] <aholler> na, thats eol too
  • [10:52:22] <jannau> but the kernel patch for device has nearly unlimited ranting potential
  • [10:52:29] <aholler> hmm, i know what to do, I will read about that usb-chip which does the msp-emu on the launchpad. ;)
  • [10:52:35] <av500> vendor kernel is vendor....
  • [10:53:16] <av500> aholler: the TUSB3410?
  • [10:53:32] <av500> http://www.flickr.com/photos/av500/4941371504/
  • [10:53:43] <av500> (never used it)
  • [10:53:43] <aholler> not sure which one that is, have to look into the documentation
  • [10:54:12] <av500> it's kind of an FTD-TI
  • [10:55:08] <aholler> a usb-client-device for 5??? would be a nice playground
  • [10:56:31] <jannau> av500: I disagree but I haven't looked at archos kernels in detail. I have rarely seen so much atrocities as in the LG kernel
  • [10:57:16] <jannau> highlight from yesterday is reusing the power gpio for the wlan sdio as card detect gpio
  • [10:57:35] <av500> thats a hw issue, no?
  • [10:57:50] <dm8tbr> jannau: there is the occasional gem, like knowing better how to write a hdd driver... ;)
  • [10:58:26] <av500> dm8tbr: unhappy?
  • [10:59:07] <dm8tbr> av500: about?
  • [10:59:37] <jannau> no really a hw problem, mmc subsystem has a callback interface for card detect
  • [10:59:40] <dm8tbr> one should keep in mind though, that most of those franken-kernels are one-off
  • [11:00:43] <dm8tbr> they are not written to win beautiful code contests, but to ship hardware before an arbitrary deadline set by management.
  • [11:01:33] <aholler> av500: ti lists the TI TUSB3410 UART EVM with $99, so I prefer the launchpad ;)
  • [11:01:47] <jannau> instead they used an interrupt on the output power gpio and removed the code which sets the card detect gpio up as input
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  • [11:05:10] <jannau> dm8tbr: depends on how strongly you define one-off. there it does need to win beaty contests but it should be better than works by pure luck and probably introduces subtle bugs if you plan to support it after shipping
  • [11:06:59] <dm8tbr> jannau: some sadly define one-off as in. don't touch code after it has shipped. but yes I see your point. Some of those weird things may be due to hardware problems (often even no longer existing hw problems, but leftovers from early prototypes)
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  • [11:12:18] <jannau> this kernel patch in question mentions 11 different hw revisions, 7 of them are probably prototypes
  • [11:14:44] <dm8tbr> :)
  • [11:14:48] <aholler> and 12 will be the last
  • [11:15:14] <ynezz> aholler: or cortex-m3 (it's similar to a8) :)
  • [11:15:27] <mru> m3 is _not_ similar to a8
  • [11:15:37] <ynezz> it's arm, so what
  • [11:15:46] <aholler> we just have to accept reality, hw comes out without usable sw, and the sw is just getting usable when the hw is eol.
  • [11:16:07] <mru> why do we have to accept that?
  • [11:16:34] <aholler> that helps do keep economics going
  • [11:17:49] * ynezz just've placed order for lpc1766stk aka another red dust collecting device :)
  • [11:18:11] <aholler> buy something, be frustrated a year, by the next thing with hopes everything is fixed. so at least you know how to spend the money
  • [11:18:20] <aholler> ;)
  • [11:18:23] <ynezz> exactly
  • [11:18:39] <ynezz> but I'm not frustrated at all
  • [11:19:13] <ynezz> you seems quite a lot lately :p
  • [11:19:32] <ynezz> just avoid using usb on ti devices
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  • [11:19:54] <ynezz> msp430 with usb is another example :p
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  • [11:21:26] <aholler> ok, so i'm getting another atmega 32u4 ;)
  • [11:22:20] <ynezz> 8bit, no arm, hm
  • [11:22:33] <aholler> but it works
  • [11:23:45] <ynezz> no errata, hm
  • [11:23:59] <ynezz> or it's just password protected? :p
  • [11:24:35] <av500> jannau: we have more than 11 hw configs out there for gen9 :)
  • [11:24:45] <av500> aholler: 99$? no idea, mine was free
  • [11:25:02] <aholler> I've just looked at ti
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  • [11:31:56] <aholler> ynezz: no wonder you never get frustrated when your stuff is just collecting dust
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  • [11:34:14] <aholler> and without lows no highs
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  • [11:35:55] <aholler> but I'm far from beeing frustrated, I just like to annoy you
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  • [12:50:18] <Sam__> windows will not recognise my beagle as plugged into the ethernet unless I do a reboot on the beagle then it works fine.. ifdown eth0 ifup eth0 doesnt do anything..
  • [12:50:30] <Sam__> any idea what the cause might be and how to fix?
  • [12:51:02] <mru> which beagle? plugged how? recognise how?
  • [12:54:04] <Sam__> beaglebone.. plugged into windows computer (I have 2 ethernet cards.. one is sharing net with beagle) if i watch the adapters in control panel nothing happens if I have booted up without the ethernet plugged into the bealge.. like if I plug it in and run commands like ifupeth0 windows just shows an inactive ethernet connection
  • [12:54:19] <Sam__> however if I reboot the beagle with ethernet plugged in, windows sees it and connects
  • [12:54:52] <av500> mru: I guess windows "knew it not"
  • [12:56:16] <Sam__> I would rather not have to hard reboot the beagle every time i wanna connect
  • [12:57:26] <mru> then trace the startup scripts and figure out what they do that ifup does not
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  • [13:01:19] <Sam__> mru: is that just watching when I do a shutdown -r now anything I should be watching for?
  • [13:01:30] <mru> read the scripts
  • [13:01:46] <mru> and/or monitor the ethernet traffic and see what it's doing
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  • [13:02:49] <Sam__> thanks 8==D ~~ XD
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  • [13:07:09] <hitlin37> anyone faced error -84 transferring data with emmc.full log: http://pastebin.com/sYt1DEAw
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  • [13:51:48] <eagle_> hello Everyone!
  • [13:51:50] <eagle_> I want to do a so simple thing: I plug a wire into a gpio pin, and another one into another pin. I need a script to check if the wires meets, so they makes shortcircuit. Is it possible without any other electronic part?
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  • [14:38:36] <mru> "Please enter the description of the Trip Purpose"
  • [14:40:07] <LetoThe2nd> "Metal"
  • [14:40:09] <aholler> flying high
  • [14:41:35] <av500> put: "collecting more frequent traveller miles"
  • [14:42:25] <aholler> testing the pressure sensor of my ez430-chronos
  • [14:42:42] <aholler> just read the ti-deal ;)
  • [14:45:57] <av500> tidealextreme.com
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  • [14:47:17] <mru> av500: that's the purpose
  • [14:47:25] <mru> it's asking for the description of the purpose
  • [14:47:44] <mru> which is of course "attend FooCon"
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  • [14:52:01] <Crofton> acquire more t-shirts
  • [14:53:56] <stuk_gen> somebody have try build gstremer and know what mean this message no tools dir set in GStreamer pkg-config file, core upgrade needed.
  • [14:53:56] <stuk_gen> ?
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  • [15:10:46] <av500> grabbed a random beagle with sd inside and lo and behold there is ubuntu onit?
  • [15:10:54] * av500 must have been drunk
  • [15:11:01] <av500> or sleephacking
  • [15:13:30] <LetoThe2nd> hrhrhr
  • [15:13:53] <av500> and I wondered for a split second why there are no serial kernel logs :)
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  • [15:14:49] <LetoThe2nd> av500 vs. ubuntu: round 1, fight.
  • [15:15:11] <av500> its a 2.6.35 kernel ubuntu
  • [15:15:24] <av500> LetoThe2nd: too late, ubu has left the sdcard
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  • [15:20:26] * av500 loves sdcards
  • [15:20:47] <av500> doing rm -rf * on the card ended up in EXT3-fs error (device sdf2): htree_dirblock_to_tree: bad entry in directory #99023: rec_len % 4 != 0 - offset=0, inode=1664479623, rec_len=58262, name_len=50
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  • [15:23:03] <mru> av500: mkfs.ext3 to the rescue
  • [15:23:10] <av500> as we speak
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  • [15:32:57] <av500> damn, systemd
  • [15:33:00] <TE52> Any experience with LI-5M03 camera for BeagleBoard????
  • [15:33:04] <av500> it did not boot in 0.8s
  • [15:33:05] <TE52> Any experience with LI-5M03 camera for BeagleBoard????
  • [15:33:10] <av500> koen: ^^^ I want my money back!!!
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  • [15:34:00] <plantaprk> hallo
  • [15:34:03] <plantaprk> hello
  • [15:34:13] <plantaprk> is anyone here ?
  • [15:34:22] <av500> no
  • [15:34:26] <LetoThe2nd> ..here...... here..... here...
  • [15:34:31] <av500> hear hear
  • [15:34:49] <LetoThe2nd> hear me, hear me?
  • [15:34:59] <av500> roger, over
  • [15:35:05] <plantaprk> i saw so many people here ,but silent
  • [15:35:09] <LetoThe2nd> you have to bring us a shrubbery!
  • [15:35:35] <av500> plantaprk: you would prefer 180 people all talking at the same time?
  • [15:35:43] <av500> watch parliament
  • [15:35:59] <nkh1> av500: +1 :D
  • [15:36:18] <plantaprk> none was talking
  • [15:36:27] <av500> and?
  • [15:36:34] <LetoThe2nd> Ni!
  • [15:36:37] <plantaprk> ok,the topic tonight?
  • [15:37:08] <av500> tectonic shift and what you can do to help
  • [15:37:12] <LetoThe2nd> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTQfGd3G6dg
  • [15:37:41] <Russ> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMkrJOOTjj4
  • [15:37:42] <TE52> Anyone experienced with LI-5M03 camera for BeagleBoard????
  • [15:37:52] <Russ> why, is it fun?
  • [15:38:17] <plantaprk> ninja block,anyone heared before?
  • [15:38:25] <LetoThe2nd> Ni!
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  • [15:38:58] <mranostay> anyone in SF right now?
  • [15:39:06] <mranostay> besides koen
  • [15:39:08] <av500> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kz7_g5cU6w
  • [15:39:19] <av500> mranostay: stop trolling
  • [15:39:34] <mru> mranostay: define now
  • [15:39:55] <mranostay> av500: how is that trolling?
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  • [15:40:09] <av500> mranostay: using the word "anyone"
  • [15:43:00] * mranostay looks like he is working since his boss is sitting across from him
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  • [15:43:25] * av500 only sees his boss in irc
  • [15:43:34] <LetoThe2nd> mranostay: he also is in #beagle? ;)
  • [15:43:41] <av500> and boss got no op
  • [15:43:54] <mru> av500: your boss sits across the channel from me
  • [15:43:57] <mranostay> LetoThe2nd: irc yes this channel no
  • [15:44:05] <LetoThe2nd> mranostay: hrhr
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  • [15:54:39] <mranostay> koen: what track are you doing today?
  • [15:54:51] <mranostay> boring yocto er i mean yocto :)
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  • [15:55:35] <av500> yocto yocto is yocto
  • [15:55:52] <LetoThe2nd> yoghurt?
  • [15:56:03] <av500> yochurd
  • [15:56:09] <av500> it's a fork
  • [15:56:12] <mranostay> yocturd
  • [15:56:14] <av500> or rather a spoon
  • [15:56:20] <aholler> openembedded angstrom
  • [15:56:26] <LetoThe2nd> av500: yocHURD?
  • [15:56:30] <mranostay> armstrong :)
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  • [15:56:53] <av500> angst-ROM
  • [15:57:03] <jannau> it is now free OpenYocto.net
  • [15:57:14] <aholler> av500: you are androidized
  • [15:57:23] <Snappleseed> can any of you guys recommend a good chat channel for someone new to freenode?
  • [15:57:34] <aholler> #test
  • [15:57:35] <av500> aholler: yes, I saw pfefferz enter and went into fanboi mode
  • [15:58:07] <av500> #alt.bizarre
  • [15:58:14] <aholler> #Snappleseed
  • [15:58:24] <LetoThe2nd> #botwar
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  • [15:58:47] <mranostay> i think we can never work for Intel now :)
  • [15:58:49] <mru> I wonder why they closed down #netbsd-furries
  • [15:59:03] <mru> or on second thoughts, I'd probably rather not know
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  • [15:59:22] <av500> mranostay: of course we can
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  • [15:59:43] <aholler> yes we can
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  • [16:01:14] <mranostay> mru: wtf is #netbsd-furries and do i want to know?
  • [16:01:33] <mru> mranostay: there used to be an irc channel by that name
  • [16:02:05] <mru> I only know about it because the only person ever to be banned from #alpha was also in that channel
  • [16:02:19] <mranostay> mru: was it furry fetish + netbsd users?
  • [16:02:38] <mru> quite possibly
  • [16:02:47] <TheAlphaNerd> I am so glad I have "alpha" on my notification list
  • [16:02:49] <mru> the guy we banned did have a furry fetish
  • [16:02:53] <mranostay> god software people are weird
  • [16:03:07] <mru> he kept posting links to such pictures at least
  • [16:03:23] <av500> mru: haha: https://www.google.com/search?q=%23netbsd-furries+log
  • [16:03:42] <mranostay> what happen to him as a kid i wonder
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  • [16:06:33] <mranostay> and #alpha? who uses alpha?
  • [16:06:51] <av500> greek people
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  • [16:10:27] <av500> hmm, I managed to get my beagle up and running by using the demo page and some googling
  • [16:10:34] <av500> should I write a blog post or a wiki?
  • [16:11:06] <LetoThe2nd> av500: nah make boris cite your irc logs.
  • [16:12:14] <av500> jkridner_: ^^^^^^^^^^
  • [16:12:29] <aholler> both, and don't forget to notify the ml and update elinux.org
  • [16:12:51] <mru> av500: commit it to the ml
  • [16:12:58] <av500> yes
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  • [16:30:01] <av500> hmm, looks like no more random MAC address
  • [16:30:06] <av500> koen: ^^ thanks
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  • [16:42:40] <petrolom> Hi, can somebody explain me what does mem boot arguments mean ? for example 'mem=99M@0x80000000 mem=128M@0x88000000' Does it mean that linux will be on physical adress 0x88000000 and higher ?
  • [16:43:00] <av500> close
  • [16:43:18] <av500> it will use 99M starting from 0x80000000 and 128M starting at 0x88000000
  • [16:44:17] <petrolom> ah thx
  • [16:44:23] <mranostay> helpful av500. should be a new meme
  • [16:44:42] <nkh1> av500: petrolom: and I've a question related!! should I change this addresses if I want to use DSP on my BBxm? [ running Ubuntu ]
  • [16:46:31] <av500> nkh1: ubuntu does not use dsplink
  • [16:46:47] <av500> so you dont need to reserve memory from linux afaik
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  • [16:46:54] <av500> since bridge uses the dsp mmu or so
  • [16:46:56] <av500> hmm
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  • [16:47:15] <av500> all that o3 stuff, hard to remember
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  • [16:47:39] <rcn-ee> you got it. .;) it allocates a fixed amount on bootup, so you can't change it without a recompile..
  • [16:48:02] <nkh1> av500: hmm, so I can easily crosscompile an app just like a helloword wit ti_cgt and run it on ubuntu?
  • [16:48:17] <av500> I did not say that
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  • [16:48:39] <av500> sneaking again, are we?
  • [16:48:43] <rcn-ee> nkh1, for something like that, you really need to use angstrom's kernel which ues dsplink..
  • [16:48:47] <nkh1> av500: yes sorry , I really mixed up :|
  • [16:49:09] <av500> yes, stuff like C6run is on dsplink
  • [16:49:21] <nkh1> rcn-ee: Oh! you mean it's completely impossible on ubuntu ? :|
  • [16:49:25] <av500> totally
  • [16:49:40] <av500> you would need to change the texture of the universe
  • [16:49:47] <nkh1> av500: hmm, thanks a lot !
  • [16:49:53] <nkh1> :))
  • [16:49:58] <av500> of course its not impossible
  • [16:49:58] <rcn-ee> no.. it's possible. just use angstrom's kernel/modules on ubuntu (you'll also need to install a few angstrom packages too..)
  • [16:51:00] <nkh1> rcn-ee: aha, so it should be possible to compile an ubuntu kernel which supports these stuff? (angstrom's kernel/modules)
  • [16:53:12] <av500> mranostay: check your serial
  • [16:53:21] <nkh1> rcn-ee: is there any manual or how to on that? I really mixed up these DSP things, not clear about what should exactly happen to run an app on dsp, which modules are needed and so on!
  • [16:53:46] <mranostay> av500: ?
  • [16:54:04] <av500> nkh1: no manual
  • [16:54:17] <nkh1> av500: even a blog post!?:D
  • [16:54:20] <av500> well, actually there is that hilarious DSP for dummies book that TI had printed
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  • [16:54:49] <rcn-ee> nkh1, there's really two "dsp" systems.. "dspbridge" which is really only used by nokia guys (mer/etc) that's the one i have setup for ubuntu.. (it sometimes works for video playback..) dsplink was more a ti only thing..
  • [16:55:11] <av500> actually, both were used by us :)
  • [16:55:30] <av500> and bridge was also used by OMAP3 android products
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  • [16:55:35] <nkh1> hmm
  • [16:55:38] <rcn-ee> but going forward, syslink (update of dsplink) is heading to mainline as 'rpm' something... so that might also fix dsplink going forward..
  • [16:55:51] <rcn-ee> lost yet? ;)
  • [16:55:54] <av500> rcn-ee: if they ever backport it to omap3
  • [16:56:02] <av500> and port CE on top of it
  • [16:56:08] <nkh1> no,not as much as I was !:S
  • [16:56:17] <nkh1> :D*
  • [16:56:37] <rcn-ee> yeah, a 3rd party would probally have to do that...
  • [16:56:49] <av500> nkh1: if you use angstrom, it has dsplink/CE examples atc
  • [16:56:50] <av500> etc
  • [16:57:02] <av500> so you can play with it, either with pure dsplink stuff or CE on top of that
  • [16:57:17] <av500> with dspbridge, basically you have a few codecs that gst can use
  • [16:57:26] <av500> but 0 help on coding your own stuff on the DSP
  • [16:57:55] <av500> since the dsp side of bridge-foo is not open source
  • [16:57:57] <nkh1> av500: I have it, seems I should switch to angstrom , or go for using dsplink on ubuntu , right?
  • [16:58:13] <av500> if you are after dsp, go angstrom
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  • [16:59:14] <nkh1> av500: I just thought that ubuntu is better if we want to reach a commercial project
  • [16:59:37] <nkh1> actually it's just our final engineering project
  • [16:59:54] <av500> so?
  • [17:00:03] <nkh1> after this we should use openCV with DSP
  • [17:00:20] <nkh1> and the target stuff will be used in cars
  • [17:00:46] <nkh1> then i think it's better to work on ubuntu which is more popular
  • [17:01:01] <nkh1> maybe i'm wrong
  • [17:01:07] <nkh1> am i?
  • [17:01:08] <nkh1> :-?
  • [17:01:16] <av500> nkh1: http://gendocs.ru/v231/?cc=1&view=pdf
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  • [17:02:13] * nkh le f*** disconnections, F*** pidgin!
  • [17:02:15] <nkh> sorry
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  • [17:06:07] <nkh1> SH***
  • [17:06:11] <nkh1> Disconnected
  • [17:06:16] <jay69811> is it really pidgin's fault?
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  • [17:06:50] <nkh1> jay6981: no not really, but i can just blame pidgin now, not the government :D
  • [17:07:11] <nkh1> no logs? :-/
  • [17:07:37] <nkh1> av500: sorry , I was asking that: will i have the same power in using DSP as in angstrom?
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  • [17:08:11] <av500> the dsp is the same
  • [17:08:23] <av500> how good dsplink stuff work with ubuntu I dont know
  • [17:08:33] <av500> why you insist on it, I dont know either
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  • [17:09:02] <nkh> av500: aha, ok, i'll try angstrom
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  • [17:09:39] <nkh> I remmember many times ago I tried it and I had problems with running c6run examples
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  • [17:10:17] <nkh> was long ago, can't remmember exatly what, I think the problem was with cmemk or something
  • [17:10:33] <nkh> i'll give it a try soon
  • [17:10:38] <av500> cmem is a nuisance, but rarely a problem
  • [17:10:59] <nkh> :)
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  • [17:13:14] <nkh> av500: btw another question! does OpenCV run with DSP on ubuntu? I don't know what exactly should run on DSP but these things are all to reach the point that we can compile an app using openCV and use the DSP to run it!
  • [17:13:44] <av500> opencv knows nothing about the omap3 dsp
  • [17:13:49] <av500> unless you teach it
  • [17:13:57] <av500> and that is unrelated to ubuntu
  • [17:14:30] <nkh> av500: hmm, yes, I reached the first point: dsplink
  • [17:14:48] <av500> achievement unlocked
  • [17:14:53] <av500> here's a badge
  • [17:14:58] <muriani> and a trophy!
  • [17:15:14] <nkh> :D
  • [17:15:23] <av500> and a truffle
  • [17:15:30] <muriani> oooh, those are tastier.
  • [17:16:13] <nkh> muriani: ;)
  • [17:16:30] <aholler> sounds like you want to use the dsp because it's a dsp
  • [17:17:00] <nkh> aholler: :))
  • [17:17:10] <nkh> :">
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  • [17:17:32] <nkh> my little knowledge, sorry :|
  • [17:19:06] <aholler> if it's for a project you should have or make a plan.
  • [17:19:20] <aholler> just start using the dsp, when you really need it
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  • [17:19:51] <aholler> otherwise you will waste many hours to find out you don't need the dsp
  • [17:20:30] <pfefferz> av500, aholler huh?
  • [17:20:41] <av500> pfefferz: just trolling you
  • [17:20:55] <pfefferz> oh okay
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  • [17:22:22] <nkh> aholler: i wish i could do that! the *** system of university projects are wasting our times, always!! :|
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  • [17:24:57] <av500> you can always write it off as a "learning"
  • [17:25:20] <nkh> uhumm..
  • [17:26:32] <aholler> a project typically has goal. does that include "using a dsp"?
  • [17:26:45] <nkh> aholler: yes
  • [17:26:53] <aholler> ah, ok.
  • [17:27:16] <nkh> aholler: thanks for your advice anyway :)
  • [17:27:52] <aholler> np, I just offered confusion ;)
  • [17:28:12] <nkh> ;)
  • [17:33:21] <jay69811> "For confusion is a kind of bewitchment???a moment when what we supposed we understood loses its form and runs together and becomes one with other things that, though they might have had different outward forms, shared the same inward nature."
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  • [17:35:59] <nkh> Sorry, but what does c6run exactly do? is it enough to compile an opencv app with that, to use dsp for special functions? for example furious transforms .
  • [17:36:07] <mru> jay69811: source?
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  • [17:36:53] <jay69811> mru: the confusion by neal stephenson
  • [17:37:25] <av500> nkh: no
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  • [17:37:33] <av500> read what it does
  • [17:37:43] <av500> "furious transforms"
  • [17:37:45] <av500> nice one
  • [17:37:50] <av500> mru: ^^^
  • [17:38:14] <mru> :)
  • [17:38:26] <mru> I started looking for that phrase in jay69811's quote
  • [17:38:31] <mru> it seemed more appropriate there
  • [17:39:12] <nkh> av500: ok seems i should read everything more carefull from begining :D
  • [17:40:02] <nkh> av500: thank you man, you helped a lot!
  • [17:40:09] <nkh> rcn-ee: thanks too!
  • [17:40:17] <nkh> have a nice time :)
  • [17:40:20] <av500> yeah, couldn't help it
  • [17:40:20] <nkh> bye
  • [17:40:35] <nkh> ;) :-h
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  • [17:44:37] <koen> rcn-ee: let's talk about the kernel mgmt when I get back home
  • [17:45:28] <aholler> hmm, to bad, the launchpad doesn't have easy to reach pins for scl and sda from the tusb
  • [17:45:57] <av500> tusb has all pins easily solderable
  • [17:46:20] <av500> its like 1.27mm spacing
  • [17:46:34] <av500> you can drive a prius through
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  • [17:47:03] <av500> aholler: I'll solder it for you
  • [17:47:47] <av500> aholler: admit it, you need glasses
  • [17:47:52] <rcn-ee> koen, heading out for lunch, be back in an hour.
  • [17:48:10] <Crofton> koen, is supposed to be paying attention here :)
  • [17:48:16] <aholler> I'm not that good with soldering anything below 2.54mm spacing ;)
  • [17:48:27] <ynezz> flux ftw!
  • [17:48:35] <av500> aholler: as said, happy to help
  • [17:48:51] <av500> stereo microscope ftw
  • [17:48:56] <aholler> that would eleminate the fun.
  • [17:49:01] <av500> but 1.27 is easy
  • [17:49:44] <av500> 0.5 is where the fun starts
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  • [17:55:30] <XMPPwocky> av500: pantograph soldering irons FTW
  • [17:55:50] <Russ> yes, stereo microscopes are awesome
  • [17:55:56] <Russ> 30x in stereo
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  • [17:56:13] <mru> stereo, bah
  • [17:56:19] <av500> Russ: the only difficult thing is to get the solder tip into view without burning everything :)
  • [17:56:24] <Russ> makes such a difference
  • [17:56:47] <mru> surround microscopes are the thing to have
  • [17:56:55] <Russ> can't afford one right now, so I have a head band coming
  • [17:57:12] <av500> "Take our survey - let us know how you would add audio to your MCU-based designs and receive a FREE C5000??? Audio Capacitive Touch BoosterPack...."
  • [17:57:14] <XMPPwocky> stereo microscope + iron on a pantograph = eerily perfect joints
  • [17:57:28] <aholler> av500: thats exactly how I've killed a board using a stereo-microscope ;)
  • [17:57:31] <av500> after the survey, they talk about a "draw"
  • [17:58:45] <mru> what a surprise
  • [17:59:16] <mru> they should at least rig it like we do
  • [18:00:31] <av500> hmm, so in 2012 TI wants to sell me a DSP to build an mp3 player?
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  • [18:00:48] <av500> jkridner_: ^^^ are you having a deja-vu?
  • [18:00:50] <aholler> just learned about the yes command, amazing how I could miss that until now. ;)
  • [18:00:56] <av500> yes
  • [18:01:27] <mru> just 'til you try "no"
  • [18:01:32] <aholler> yes "no"
  • [18:01:51] <ds2> av500: heheh... sell you?
  • [18:02:01] <av500> well, me, you, the world
  • [18:02:02] <mru> but my real favourite is "maybe"
  • [18:02:25] <ds2> av500: clearly, you need to buy at least 1 TI product ;)
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  • [18:05:14] <av500> ds2: well, roughly 13ys ago, marrying an 8 bit micro to a dsp to do an mp3 player was "new"
  • [18:06:28] <ds2> maybe they mean their MSP430's... marketing says they are not 8 bit
  • [18:06:34] <av500> RS already sent me 4 updates on the "pi"
  • [18:06:43] <av500> ds2: s/8/16/
  • [18:06:57] <ds2> :D
  • [18:07:18] <ds2> so they are using the iterative approach to pi not the monte carlo method?
  • [18:07:19] <av500> anyway, anybody who needs an mp3 player can get a one chip chinese SoC ...
  • [18:11:38] <djlewis> prpplague: I went with this, 39 good reviews and 1 not so good on amazon.
  • [18:11:44] <djlewis> prpplague: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180672745995&ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:US:3160
  • [18:12:15] * prpplague looks
  • [18:12:24] <prpplague> djlewis: dandy
  • [18:12:51] <av500> djlewis: it does not suck?
  • [18:12:58] <ds2> djlewis: why go through ebay?
  • [18:13:03] <djlewis> av500: I HOPE NOT ;)
  • [18:13:23] <djlewis> CAUSE IT WAS LESS EXPENSIVE FROM THE DEALER THROUGH THEIR EBAY SPECIAL
  • [18:13:25] <av500> you mean it only blows?
  • [18:13:35] <av500> ..chunks..
  • [18:13:35] <djlewis> sorry bout caps
  • [18:14:07] <djlewis> $139.xx P 15 sh at amazon and dealer direct.
  • [18:15:04] * djlewis cant look at screen while typing :(
  • [18:16:08] <ds2> djlewis: eh?
  • [18:16:51] <djlewis> ds2: same dealer "mercantile_station" on amazon and direct charges more.
  • [18:17:14] <djlewis> ds2: i found this add and saved $40.00
  • [18:17:29] <ds2> djlewis: http://www.circuitspecialists.com/csi899a+.html
  • [18:17:42] <ds2> oh you mean from the same guy...
  • [18:18:01] <djlewis> ds2: right
  • [18:19:05] <ds2> djlewis: I can find similar prices from other folks w/o having to deal with the hassle of ebay
  • [18:19:22] <djlewis> ds2: the co I ordered from has a very good review rating for service, warranty, etc
  • [18:19:42] <djlewis> ds2: agreed, ebay is a hassle.
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  • [18:20:26] <djlewis> my first time ordering through ebay.
  • [18:20:47] <djlewis> have had a acct setup there for several years
  • [18:20:53] <ds2> djlewis: that place has a physical store so that puts it a bit more dependable then ebay
  • [18:21:14] <mru> oh, so you're taking up gambling
  • [18:21:28] <ds2> why yes ;)
  • [18:21:29] <djlewis> yep, up in Nebraska
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  • [18:23:40] <djlewis> ds2: we shall see how it transpires, i ordered 1am and it is ready for ups pickup now.
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  • [18:25:57] <ds2> djlewis: don't you have shop air at home?
  • [18:26:28] <djlewis> ds2: like my 12 gallon 2 piston air compressor?
  • [18:26:31] <ds2> djlewis: yeah
  • [18:26:40] <djlewis> ds2: and?
  • [18:26:43] <ds2> cuz the weak point on those is suppose to be the integrated compressor
  • [18:26:52] <ds2> better shop air might be more reliable
  • [18:27:12] <djlewis> ds2 i looked at Dave's Atten review and it hasd a crap blower in the hand unit.
  • [18:27:39] <ds2> yes... there should be units that run off of shop air instead
  • [18:28:03] <djlewis> yeah, blow those little components across the county
  • [18:30:21] <ds2> i assume you run them with a regulator
  • [18:31:03] <djlewis> ds2: i supposed you would go there, I was kidding. Yours is a good idea. I may fall back on it if need be.
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  • [18:31:36] <ds2> :)
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  • [18:32:05] <djlewis> I need to acquire an oil and moisture filter for my compressor
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  • [18:33:11] <djlewis> ds2: your link shows lots of cool blower tips
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  • [18:33:26] <ds2> djlewis: I suspect they are all manufactured by the same folks
  • [18:34:02] <djlewis> ds2: the clamp looks same
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  • [19:48:48] <jsabeaudry> So my GPMC works with loose timings, however when I set more precise timings, reads are still fine but writes make the beaglebone hang
  • [19:51:14] <_av500_> hang?
  • [19:51:22] <_av500_> you configured wait states?
  • [19:54:25] <jsabeaudry> nope
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  • [19:56:30] <_av500_> netgear, I hate you: http://forum1.netgear.com/showpost.php?s=e633fdb443fc893c09c74314aa80f9ea&p=204492&postcount=1
  • [19:56:39] <_av500_> koen: beagle mac is "illegal"
  • [19:58:41] <jsabeaudry> What I do is use GPMC read/write, change GPMC_CONFIG[2-6], GPMC read will fine, try one GPMC write: hang
  • [19:58:59] <jsabeaudry> s/will/still/
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  • [20:11:00] <jsabeaudry> oh wow
  • [20:11:27] <jsabeaudry> the registers marked "Only for OMAP3430" are really not only for omap3430
  • [20:11:52] <_av500_> also for 3530?
  • [20:12:03] <_av500_> nd 3505?
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  • [20:15:15] <_av500_> great, even after fooling that crap router, it wont assign a fixed IP to the beagle
  • [20:17:18] <jsabeaudry> So basically in https://github.com/koenkooi/linux/blob/master/arch/arm/plat-omap/include/plat/gpmc.h, line 129 should be disregarded because if you dont set those two properly you hang your bone on write
  • [20:19:56] <_av500_> http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Tips_for_configuring_OMAP35x,_AM35x,_and_AM-DM37x_GPMC_registers
  • [20:20:00] <_av500_> saw that?
  • [20:20:26] <_av500_> but that is typical for TI
  • [20:20:48] <_av500_> Soc X has some subsystem
  • [20:20:54] <_av500_> Sox X+1 add a new feature
  • [20:21:05] <_av500_> so, the code adds a test for if(soc x+1)
  • [20:21:17] <_av500_> and then X+2 comes along and it breaks of course
  • [20:21:21] <_av500_> same for comments
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  • [20:28:28] <jsabeaudry> _av500_, thanks, I had not seen that wiki page
  • [20:28:57] <jsabeaudry> I guess I should have RTFM and not just trust the comments in the code :)
  • [20:34:15] <_av500_> yes
  • [20:34:32] <_av500_> i found that page by googling that register name
  • [20:34:56] <_av500_> as usual, hindsight is 20/20
  • [20:35:03] <mru> in order of increasing wrongness: code, comments, manual, wiki
  • [20:35:15] <mru> _av500_: only 20/20?
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  • [20:47:47] * _av500_ hates connman
  • [20:48:08] * djlewis ++
  • [20:48:57] <_av500_> I need to install frakin python to set a fixed ip?
  • [20:48:58] <_av500_> wtf
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  • [20:49:20] <mru> ip=addr:mask:foo:bar:etc
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  • [20:49:39] <mru> who needs userspace?
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  • [20:50:36] <_av500_> mru: I am close to writing BASIC.ko
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  • [20:50:59] <_av500_> and implement peek and poke
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  • [20:53:30] <_av500_> maybe systemd and connman is all nice and new, but I fail to see how that would help linux noobs when basically 99% of the googlable info on linux does not apply
  • [20:54:07] <_av500_> plus the fact that all these decoy files still exist in e.g. /etc that people try to edit
  • [20:54:26] <_av500_> like /etc/network/interfaces or the stuff in init.d
  • [20:54:34] <_av500_> koen: yes, thats a rant
  • [20:54:49] <mru> one word: openrc
  • [20:56:36] <_av500_> and thta helps how?
  • [20:57:02] <mru> it's sane
  • [20:57:43] <_av500_> maybe
  • [20:57:47] <_av500_> but that was not my point
  • [20:58:04] <_av500_> maybe systemd is sane, maybe not
  • [20:58:09] <_av500_> same for connman
  • [20:58:15] <mru> I'm quite convinced it is not
  • [20:58:22] <_av500_> but both do no appear in google results
  • [20:58:34] <_av500_> unless you know you are looking for them
  • [20:59:41] <aholler> something which requires python can't be sane
  • [20:59:54] <_av500_> the fact that angstrom is on the forefront of "modern" linux does not help newbies on beagle or bone
  • [21:01:00] <_av500_> aholler: i dont think connman requires python, just that the tools to configure it were written in it
  • [21:01:17] <mru> tools to configure it?
  • [21:01:27] <mru> if a text editor is not good enough to configure something, it is not sane
  • [21:01:33] <djlewis> the desktop gui
  • [21:01:39] <mru> text editor or butterflies
  • [21:01:48] <_av500_> mru: ah, the py stuff sends messages via d-bus
  • [21:01:55] <_av500_> double fail
  • [21:02:05] <mru> dbus is such a disaster
  • [21:02:34] <mranostay> heh
  • [21:02:46] <mranostay> one that everyone uses
  • [21:02:55] <_av500_> mranostay: is forced to use
  • [21:03:10] <_av500_> but hey, lets merge that into systemd as well
  • [21:03:14] <aholler> reminds me on bluez. that was long unusable until someone "reinvented" commandline-tools for bluez
  • [21:03:29] <_av500_> yeah. lets merge bluez into systemd as well
  • [21:03:35] <mru> I'm staying as far away as possible from bluez
  • [21:04:07] <aholler> inbetween one had to use python to send some awfull messages over dbus
  • [21:04:13] <mru> I once looked briefly at the bluez source, and there was a security hole on just about every page
  • [21:04:34] <_av500_> aholler: well, looks like connman reused that code :)
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  • [21:06:11] * _av500_ officially awards "ricer status" to angstrom, here take that badge too
  • [21:06:58] * _av500_ looks for that ubuntu download again.....
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  • [21:31:43] <Q8GEEK> guys, what does "Oops! can't find FMD driver" mean?
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  • [21:37:38] <_av500_> it means something cannot find hte FMD driver
  • [21:38:58] <Q8GEEK> <blush>what is the FMD driver to begin with</blush>
  • [21:39:30] <mru> how would we know?
  • [21:39:52] <Q8GEEK> that i'm blushing?
  • [21:40:07] <mru> what are you trying to do?
  • [21:40:34] <_av500_> wince
  • [21:40:42] * djlewis shutters
  • [21:40:52] <mru> that's what I was beginning to fear
  • [21:40:57] <_av500_> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa447813.aspx
  • [21:41:36] <Q8GEEK> damn microsoft -_-;
  • [21:41:57] <_av500_> they are holding a gun to your head?
  • [21:42:06] <_av500_> if not, you have options
  • [21:42:39] <Q8GEEK> well, microsoft is like a teenage son; always makes trouble, but i still love it :P
  • [21:43:00] <_av500_> like your teenage son, expensive therapy can do wonders
  • [21:43:10] <Q8GEEK> that too
  • [21:44:27] <_av500_> anyway, did you check AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS?
  • [21:44:40] <_av500_> maybe its a stray TSR
  • [21:45:00] <_av500_> or you need a registry cleaner?
  • [21:45:04] <Q8GEEK> i'll see what went bonkers. maybe the used image itself is retarded
  • [21:45:21] <_av500_> I would use defrag.exe
  • [21:45:49] <djlewis> chkdsk /f /r /x
  • [21:46:24] <djlewis> then sfc /scannow
  • [21:46:26] <_av500_> or somethin in win.ini
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  • [21:58:58] <mranostay> hi guys!
  • [21:59:11] <djlewis> mranostay: gm
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  • [22:16:21] <mranostay> djlewis: where is it morning?
  • [22:18:40] <mru> on irc
  • [22:18:57] <mranostay> we run off UTC?
  • [22:19:01] <mru> UGT
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  • [22:23:12] <mranostay> mru: UGT?
  • [22:24:06] <mru> google it
  • [22:24:06] <Crofton> http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
  • [22:24:14] <mru> or Crofton it
  • [22:25:39] <mranostay> mru: sad how true that is is
  • [22:25:40] * djlewis is looking forward to recovering parts off circuit boards using flaming air ;)
  • [22:26:06] <mranostay> relays?
  • [22:26:39] <djlewis> mranostay: you get my post to you about 1amCST
  • [22:27:45] <djlewis> I was just ordering a hot air rework/soldering station.
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  • [22:28:24] <mranostay> djlewis: is there a real message i need to dig out of logs? or you being UGT now? :)
  • [22:28:55] <djlewis> mranostay: no msg, just blabbing now. dont bother.
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  • [22:39:36] <Q8GEEK> i think it wasn't m$'s fault after all. was hoping it'd work off rca, but did over HDMI
  • [22:39:56] <Q8GEEK> worked flawlessly as soon as i plugged... now i need to figure out how to do an RCA instead of HDMI
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  • [23:10:10] <djlewis> later...
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