• [00:00:21] <Oren__> is this the right place to look for help building openembedded for the beaglebone?
  • [00:00:29] <_av500_> yes and no
  • [00:00:32] <_av500_> just ask :)
  • [00:00:42] <mru> is this the right place to be on-topic?
  • [00:00:56] <djlewis> hehee
  • [00:01:03] <Oren__> :)
  • [00:02:02] <Oren__> Been trying to get a build to work following the directions based on cloning the setup-scripts repo from angstrom and running into a variety of errors
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  • [00:03:04] <Oren__> I'm trying to figure out if the problem is that I'm running it in a vm, or that the vm is debian 6 amd64 or that there's something else I'm getting wrong
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  • [00:04:12] <Oren__> on an ubuntu machine, I was able to get openembedded-core to build, but I'm a bit fuzzy on to configure the bitbake to build for the beaglebone
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  • [00:09:31] <Crofton|work> Oren__, did you use the angstrom setup script?
  • [00:10:55] <Oren__> yes, I ran the setup script - on the vm when I try a "bitbake nano" it just hangs after getting to about 95% done with the parsing scripts
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  • [00:15:40] <Oren__> the embedded application I want to use the beaglebone for doesn't need many of the things that seem to get built with the default setup - eg x11 - it seemed that even with the console-image that is part of the build
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  • [00:23:00] <stu2> Oren - have you seen this link: http://omappedia.org/wiki/OMAP_Angstrom The commands seem simple on the angstrom site (which appears to be back up) but I experience all kinds of inconsistent errors. I'm sure it's me, but it's a grand puzzle trying to figure out how to solve them.
  • [00:25:03] <Oren__> I haven't seen that one. But I also have found it to be a giant puzzle - it's nice to know I'm not the only one.
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  • [00:28:22] <Oren__> ok, well, I suppose it's not too surprising, but increasing my vm's RAM to 2GB from 512MB seems to have improved well things are working (now it takes 13 minutes to parse, but it's now actually building things for the first time)
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  • [00:50:13] <ds2> :q!
  • [00:51:55] <tlab> 8!
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  • [00:52:47] <SilicaGell> i think I decided that, while cool, Xbee Programmable is not for me.
  • [00:53:19] <SilicaGell> SDCC for 'HC08 and 'HCS08 do NOT seem to be well supported AT ALL, and I see stuff about it generating, quote, "bad code, I mean BAD"
  • [00:53:34] <SilicaGell> and CodeWarrior only runs on billgatesware so I disavow it
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  • [01:09:13] <tlab> http://www.ti.com/tool/tmdxice3359 isn't this basically the beaglebone?
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  • [01:11:29] <mranostay> tlab: the AM3359 is the same
  • [01:12:06] <mranostay> but i'll bet that thing costs 3x at least
  • [01:13:04] <tlab> 99 bucks
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  • [01:13:36] <mranostay> hmmm
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  • [01:15:06] <tlab> yea I'm interested in the industrial communication stuff, seems the beaglebone is lacking the interface, but still has the options to add it
  • [01:15:30] <tlab> wonder what all I can get working together
  • [01:16:16] <tlab> very little documentation yet for that board
  • [01:16:16] <SilicaGell> it says it's $99.00
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  • [05:32:26] <Oren__> the gcc that bitbake builds - is that for the toolchain to build with or is being built to run on the beagle
  • [05:32:27] <Oren__> ?
  • [05:33:14] <Oren__> it makes more sense that it's the toolchain to build everything else with, but I'm new at this
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  • [07:35:42] <koen> good morning all
  • [07:36:01] <av500> good morning koen
  • [07:36:20] <av500> how was the 1st night sleeping under the stars?
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  • [07:37:57] <LetoThe2nd> under the stars? koen became a celebrity gigolo? *SCNR*
  • [07:38:44] <av500> LetoThe2nd: texas campfire
  • [07:39:12] <av500> listening to http://www.amazon.com/Texas-Campfire-Tapes-Michelle-Shocked/dp/B000001FO2
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  • [07:41:01] <LetoThe2nd> av500: hm, cover doesn't look like metal...
  • [07:41:39] <av500> it isn't
  • [07:41:50] <av500> but the YL might like it
  • [07:42:48] <av500> LetoThe2nd: here: http://txmetal.com/
  • [07:44:30] <LetoThe2nd> av500: i like that one: http://txmetal.com/?controller=product&path=23&product_id=5497
  • [07:45:18] <av500> LetoThe2nd: is that needed in your 'hood?
  • [07:46:05] <LetoThe2nd> av500: you know, god-emperors and especially tyrants like me always have to be careful of assasination ;)
  • [07:46:05] <av500> koen: http://txmetal.com/?controller=product&path=26_231&product_id=1147
  • [07:47:14] <av500> wow, need that for my website: http://txmetal.com/?controller=product&path=5_32&product_id=5096
  • [07:48:04] <LetoThe2nd> the neighbour of my parents has a similar thing on his actual site. not 'web'
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  • [07:49:27] <LetoThe2nd> but it provides a certain amount of kitsch value.
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  • [08:00:03] <koen> heh
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  • [08:04:30] <huang> ou,please???It`s afternoon,now!good afternoon all
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  • [08:05:17] <av500> huang: no, its morning always
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  • [08:26:04] <huang> Hello,My minicom awalys crash or stop when I log in the linux of my beagleboard.Does anybody can help me?
  • [08:26:22] <av500> huang: explain
  • [08:26:38] <av500> and yes, minicom loves to crash
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  • [08:26:46] <av500> you could use screen
  • [08:26:59] <LetoThe2nd> <3 screen
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  • [08:29:37] <huang> ok,let me try it.thanks
  • [08:30:26] <av500> I love it when minicom crashes on random garbage on the serial line
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  • [08:30:41] <av500> we even compiled a special version that would ignore all terminal control codes
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  • [09:40:47] <av500> ha, r-pi is so yesterday.... http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2012/02/linux-computer-the-size-of-a-thumb-drive-now-available-for-preorder.ars
  • [09:41:19] <dm8tbr> the AI thing with OMAP4?
  • [09:41:51] <dm8tbr> hmm no different
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  • [09:43:35] <ynezz> let's hype!
  • [09:43:46] <LetoThe2nd> YAY! HYPE!
  • [09:44:00] <av500> hyper, hyper
  • [09:44:20] <LetoThe2nd> i suggest we shall call the time 2011-2012 the pi-bubble years when looking back.
  • [09:44:31] <ynezz> one would need to rob a bank to get all those goodies :(
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  • [09:45:59] <av500> ynezz: ?
  • [09:46:03] <av500> $35 for the pi?
  • [09:46:16] <av500> that's like a cone of icecream in mountain view
  • [09:46:21] <av500> maybe 2
  • [09:46:30] <dm8tbr> hrhr
  • [09:47:20] <ynezz> then that KDE touchpad
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  • [09:50:03] <av500> ynezz: what would you need an underpowered android tablet for?
  • [09:50:18] <ynezz> kde? :)
  • [09:50:34] <av500> kde?
  • [09:51:00] <ynezz> no, just kidding, I'm resistant to all this temptations
  • [09:51:27] <av500> "i bought that car coz I like the color of the dashboard plastic"
  • [09:53:27] <ynezz> that candy site is so retarded
  • [09:53:34] <ynezz> can't find the specs
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  • [09:54:07] <av500> ynezz: the specs are all the some
  • [09:54:14] <av500> 1 or 2 A9, mali, hd
  • [09:54:32] <ynezz> I want NAND
  • [09:54:34] <ynezz> :)
  • [09:54:38] <av500> nand?
  • [09:54:41] <av500> sdcard...
  • [09:54:45] <ynezz> no way
  • [09:55:09] <av500> ds2: ^^^ here, somebody to start your self help group with
  • [09:55:12] <LetoThe2nd> i want xor!
  • [09:55:35] <av500> I NOT
  • [09:56:37] <ynezz> sdretards
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  • [09:58:12] <ynezz> Manuals & How-Tos's: There is no content in this section
  • [09:58:25] <av500> ynezz: retarsd
  • [09:58:44] <ynezz> "it boots, ship it!"
  • [09:59:53] <av500> but community already has been ported to it: http://www.cstick.com/memberlist.php
  • [10:00:06] <ynezz> probably some professional scam
  • [10:02:34] <ynezz> no picture of real device, just some lame 3D mockups
  • [10:02:49] <av500> ynezz: look at a large usb stick
  • [10:02:56] <ynezz> I could fake it better in gimp :p
  • [10:02:59] <av500> sure
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  • [10:48:27] <koen> is ynezz ds2's alter ego?
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  • [11:03:28] <_tasslehoff_> ehci omap suggest I might have a bad cable and have given up enumeration. is there a sysfs way to reset ehci?
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  • [11:14:42] <mrtea> Hello everyone!
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  • [11:16:46] <mrtea> I have a question. Can I flash my program, f.e. own writen bootloader to internal memory on borad using JTAG interface?
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  • [11:18:14] <mrtea> I have similar experience with LPC2138, but using KEIL and jtag. And as I know Keil doesnt support beagleboard
  • [11:19:50] <av500> what board?
  • [11:20:05] <av500> the beagle XM and the Bone have no internal flash
  • [11:20:09] <av500> just sdcardf
  • [11:20:13] <mrtea> beagleboard rev b4
  • [11:20:21] <av500> ok, B$ has nand
  • [11:20:22] <av500> b$
  • [11:20:24] <av500> b4
  • [11:20:26] <av500> gee
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  • [11:49:55] <mru> av500: some early xm have nand too :)
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  • [12:01:48] <ynezz> hm, yummy
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  • [12:04:09] <av500> ynezz: chewing on a nand-stick?
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  • [12:06:48] <ynezz> nah, just some nandocado
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  • [12:21:09] <_tasslehoff_> hum. can't believe I haven't seen the thread about noise on the 1.8V causing EHCI issues on C3 until now...
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  • [12:24:31] <mru> heh, that's pretty old stuff
  • [12:24:43] <mru> if you're lucky you can fix it by adding a capacitor
  • [12:24:46] <mru> didn't work for me
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  • [12:29:20] <_tasslehoff_> mru: yeah. I see lowering VDD2 and running the omap at lower speed could also help.
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  • [13:43:27] <SilicaGel> that's old school. VDD2.1 is out now.
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  • [14:33:03] <SilicaGel> Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue!
  • [14:33:25] <mru> oh?
  • [14:35:04] <SilicaGel> no.
  • [14:35:09] <SilicaGel> :)
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  • [14:50:55] <damir__> hmm.... rendering 100 falling snowflakes with GLES2 at just 19 fps :/
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  • [15:59:29] <av500> koen: initng, discuss
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  • [16:01:45] <koen> av500: that sounds like the sound you make when biting on your own tongue
  • [16:02:00] <av500> its on the NAS I have here
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  • [16:04:30] <koen> av500: their homepage feels the need to state "The project is not dead."
  • [16:04:36] <av500> yes
  • [16:04:39] <av500> cute, eh
  • [16:04:44] <LetoThe2nd> its un-dead?
  • [16:04:52] <LetoThe2nd> like a zombie-init
  • [16:05:12] <koen> av500: I don't want to maintain my own initsystem
  • [16:05:28] <koen> av500: right now >90% of the sysv initscripts in OE are custom
  • [16:05:41] <koen> to deal with busybox being stupid
  • [16:05:58] <koen> systemd doesn't rely on a shell interpreter, so I can reuse upstream
  • [16:05:59] * mru points at openrc
  • [16:06:30] <av500> koen: ok, lacie is using it for 10ys now...
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  • [16:06:35] <av500> they call it legacy :)
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  • [16:07:11] <LetoThe2nd> av500: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_of_Kings
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  • [16:13:20] <guyzmo> ola
  • [16:13:32] <spazvt> hi ... I just setup a beagleboard-xM, but on bootup Angstrom doesn't finish loading. I don't see any FAQ notes about the root cause, though.
  • [16:15:01] <koen> av500: isn't initng only 6 years old?
  • [16:15:31] <guyzmo> I want to connect an XBee module with the beaglebone, and I want to be sure the UART can handle 3.3V and that I don't need to adapt voltages
  • [16:16:00] <av500> no idea
  • [16:16:04] <av500> saw it today for the 1st time
  • [16:16:22] <spazvt> when I formatted the 4GB SD card with two partitions, the two files that I unpacked onto the Linux partition (mounted as /media/Angstrom) were Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2011.1-beagleboard.rootfs.tar.bz2 and modules-3.0.17+-r115a-beagleboard.tgz.
  • [16:16:23] <ogra_> it is what lennart stole systemd from, no ?
  • [16:17:04] <spazvt> both being the newest from www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard.
  • [16:17:08] <guyzmo> I'm RTFM the manual but there's a lot in it, and though I think it is ok, I'm afraid it could be not :)
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  • [16:21:00] <jwinnebeck> Is there some package in the angstrom distribution that is a kernel module that is NOT in the kernel. I'm trying to make a .bb to compile a kernel module. I found kernel headers in sysroots/<mach>/kernel. Is building it as simple as pointing the kernel module makefile to use that kernel source?
  • [16:21:18] <jwinnebeck> But if there is a documentation or existing recipe I can look up...
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  • [16:23:38] <koen> jwinnebeck: inherit module
  • [16:23:43] <koen> jwinnebeck: grep for that
  • [16:24:14] <jwinnebeck> OK thanks I will look for that. I saw there were a lot of classes in the OpenEmbedded doc but didn't see a module one. I assume I will find a file module.bbclass?
  • [16:24:33] <jwinnebeck> n/m I will look, or grep for recipies using as you say
  • [16:25:42] <dwery> guyzmo: the beaglebone is 3.3v
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  • [16:26:05] <jwinnebeck> found it thanks koen
  • [16:26:35] <dwery> if the xbee is 3.3v too, you have no problems
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  • [16:28:35] <thurbad> has anyone ever tried cross compiling omapfbplay?
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  • [16:29:04] <av500> mru has for sure
  • [16:32:58] <guyzmo> dwery - thank you :)
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  • [16:34:02] <guyzmo> dwery - if I understood correctly, UART1 is bound to the USB connector, so I have to choose one of the 4 other UART to do my own meal ?
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  • [16:36:22] <dwery> I can't remember which uart there's on the cape connectors, but you have plenty to choose from
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  • [16:36:57] <guyzmo> ok
  • [16:38:02] <guyzmo> well, I think I'll take UART5 which is the only one directly documented (on page 54) with RX/TX/CTS/RTS
  • [16:39:17] <guyzmo> urgh
  • [16:39:30] * guyzmo reread twice the doc
  • [16:39:43] <guyzmo> page 25 : " There are four serial ports on the expansion headers. UART ports 1, 2, 4 ports have TX,Rx,RTS and CTS signals while UART5 only has TX and RX. "
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  • [16:40:14] <guyzmo> and page 54 : the expansion port schematic exposes RX/TX/CTS/RTS
  • [16:40:20] <dwery> seems reasonable
  • [16:40:37] <guyzmo> for UART5
  • [16:40:51] <dwery> pick uart2 and you should be safe
  • [16:41:05] <guyzmo> ok
  • [16:41:54] <guyzmo> dwery - and how can I get/set CTS/RTS for UART2 ?
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  • [16:42:42] <guyzmo> hum
  • [16:42:56] <jsabeaudry> guyzmo, UART1 is on P9, I believe it is UART0 that is on the USB
  • [16:42:59] <guyzmo> looking at another table, UART5 TX is UART2 CTS in mode6
  • [16:43:35] <dwery> uart5, so you don't have to search for the signals
  • [16:44:29] <guyzmo> ok :)
  • [16:45:18] <thurbad> compiles fine, but when I try running it it says Decoder '(null)' not found.
  • [16:45:53] <SilicaGel> yeah I second that thanks koen, I've wanted to know a better way to do this for a while
  • [16:46:05] <thurbad> if I compile stuff on the board it works fine though
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  • [16:49:01] <SilicaGel> quebec just got a nice little earth quake, anybody here there?
  • [16:49:49] <SilicaGel> M4.0
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  • [16:51:56] <Dacobi> Hello
  • [16:52:29] <Dacobi> Just opened up the box and plugged in my first BeagleBone :)
  • [16:52:56] <Mojito> I am having trouble with USB operations on the BeagleBone. The AM33X chips seem to act differently than the driver module "cppi41_dma" expects, resulting in very high cpu utilization. Has anyone else noticed this?
  • [16:53:25] <Mojito> ccpi41_dma causes the kernel's "kworker" process to keep waking up
  • [16:54:51] <Dacobi> Can anyone tell me where to find the default root passwd and other default users/passwords?
  • [16:57:50] <thurbad> default root pw is empty
  • [16:58:16] <av500> "alpine" or "dottie"
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  • [16:59:24] <SilicaGel> try hunter2
  • [16:59:40] <SilicaGel> hmm
  • [16:59:47] * SilicaGel wonders if this meme is known in these circles
  • [16:59:53] <av500> \o
  • [17:00:06] <SilicaGel> see: http://bash.org/?244321
  • [17:01:33] <arcanescu> lol
  • [17:01:38] <arcanescu> @ that hahahha
  • [17:02:01] <arcanescu> good one
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  • [17:07:15] <muriani> SilicaGel: well known, I'm sure.
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  • [17:07:42] <jwinnebeck> HAHAH wow, nice... hunter2
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  • [17:08:14] <W1N9Zr0> ******* ? what are you guys talking about?
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  • [17:16:23] <smplman> SilicaGel: LMFAO
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  • [17:16:38] <SilicaGel> i can get lost in bash.org for hours
  • [17:16:45] <SilicaGel> it's like candy
  • [17:17:02] <smplman> exploring now
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  • [17:19:51] <smplman> SilicaGel: just searched my name and nothing came up, so thats good.
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  • [17:23:59] <SilicaGel> yeah
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  • [18:20:50] <SilicaGel> Boy, that NXP LPC4300 looks nifty
  • [18:21:06] <SilicaGel> asymmetrical dual core
  • [18:21:08] <SilicaGel> best of both worlds
  • [18:21:19] <SilicaGel> super low power M0 for supervisory stuff or whatever
  • [18:21:24] <SilicaGel> M4 for profit!
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  • [18:22:55] <wmat> the LPC4300 dev board is a bit expensive though at $370ish bucks
  • [18:23:05] <wmat> or maybe I'm just cheap
  • [18:23:23] <koen> only 5 beaglebones
  • [18:23:32] <wmat> exactly
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  • [18:23:43] <SilicaGel> no that's expensive
  • [18:23:48] <SilicaGel> the chip is $9 in qty1
  • [18:24:03] <koen> am335x is $5 :)
  • [18:24:09] <SilicaGel> yeah in qty1000
  • [18:24:09] <SilicaGel> right
  • [18:24:12] <SilicaGel> no qty100,000 !
  • [18:24:13] <SilicaGel> !!!
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  • [18:26:28] <arcanescu> The Raspberry Pi Foundation will be making a big (and very positive) announcement that just might interest you at 0600h GMT on Wednesday 29 February 2012
  • [18:26:29] <arcanescu> :/
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  • [18:26:45] <wmat> saw that, i assume the shop will be open
  • [18:26:52] <arcanescu> the suspense is worse than movies
  • [18:27:12] <arcanescu> yeah i think so too ....
  • [18:27:16] <SilicaGel> bad movies
  • [18:27:33] <SilicaGel> the kind of movies where the aliens seem benvolent at first, but they are JUST ABOUT to show their true evil intentions AND WE ALL DIE
  • [18:27:40] <koen> I was excited about the cortex a8 3.5 years ago
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  • [18:27:45] <arcanescu> well no the kind of movies
  • [18:27:51] <koen> I fail to get excited about an arm11 right now
  • [18:27:57] <SilicaGel> koen: me too
  • [18:28:03] <arcanescu> where america newyork california etc are attacked first
  • [18:28:09] <arcanescu> all godzilla armageddon etc
  • [18:28:13] <arcanescu> begin and end there
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  • [18:28:36] <SilicaGel> I'd be excited to find a 2.1mm x 5.5mm right angle surface mount DC power connector right about now, though.
  • [18:28:43] <arcanescu> america : more specifcially newyork california
  • [18:29:09] <arcanescu> i think this raspberry pi has alot of hype around it
  • [18:29:17] <arcanescu> and it will slowly fade away ... :/
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  • [18:30:13] <SilicaGel> leaving us ... to RULE THE WORLD ... MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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  • [18:34:54] <SilicaGel> jwinnebeck is assisting me in figuring out how this module building thing works, at which time I will try to omap_pm_register a timer and see if I get undecipherable numerical errors like that character on the mailing list did
  • [18:34:56] <jwinnebeck> well a guy on the mailing list made a possibly valid point that RPi is good for everyone
  • [18:35:11] <SilicaGel> that guy might have been drunk
  • [18:35:12] <SilicaGel> we're not sure
  • [18:35:19] <jwinnebeck> in that people will try RPi and enter into ARM embedded GNU/Linux world, and maybe want something more powerful and step up to bone
  • [18:37:27] <SilicaGel> looks like the smallest stellaris is in a 20 pin package. It has a whopping 1KB of rom an 128B of ram.
  • [18:37:58] <arcanescu> jwinnebeck: agreed
  • [18:38:09] <arcanescu> I think that is the only good that would come off it
  • [18:38:23] <jwinnebeck> although to be honest I think if I was going to get an arm system it would not be the bone
  • [18:38:27] <jwinnebeck> not for personal use anywy
  • [18:38:37] <jwinnebeck> I would really need to have HDMI with audio
  • [18:38:45] <jwinnebeck> so there are other boards of course
  • [18:38:48] <jwinnebeck> including beagleboard obviously
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  • [18:39:16] <jwinnebeck> But for what we are looking at now the bone is perfect so far
  • [18:39:18] <arcanescu> speaking of which someone needs to make a composite video input or video input of somekind to the beagle -.-
  • [18:39:25] <arcanescu> its been a while this has been lingering on
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  • [18:40:50] <Mojito> Has anyone else seen kworker wake up too often and consume the CPU, when doing output to the USB port on BeagleBone? It happens to be on both Angstrom and Arch Linux.
  • [18:41:05] <Mojito> Driver module 'cppi41_dma' seems to be the source of the wakeups
  • [18:41:56] <koen> that's the usb dma
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  • [18:44:08] <Mojito> yes
  • [18:44:29] <Mojito> I play an audio file out to my USB headphones and kworker take 98% of cpu time
  • [18:44:53] <koen> ISO tranfers are a bitch
  • [18:45:17] <Mojito> "ISO"?
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  • [18:56:37] <_av500_> isosynchronous
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  • [19:05:09] <Oren> anyone seen bitbake fail when it runs into assignments like: foo = bar ---- instead of foo = "bar" ?
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  • [19:05:58] <koen> yes
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  • [19:06:05] <koen> learn to quote :)
  • [19:06:11] <thurbad> ~.~
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  • [19:07:17] <thurbad> figured out my problem with compiling omapfbplay.. seems the order of linkage matters wit it o.O
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  • [19:07:51] <mranostay> koen: now be nice :)
  • [19:08:21] <koen> mranostay: nah
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  • [19:09:13] <Oren> koen: here I was thinking that I've quoting your work
  • [19:10:22] <Oren> I'm running into this problem with the meta-ti recipes
  • [19:12:06] <SilicaGel> I think he means isochronous
  • [19:13:02] <Mojito> But why does kworker get woken up 1200 times per second?
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  • [19:16:57] <Mojito> I ran 'powertop' to find that out
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  • [19:23:53] <mru> thurbad: can you elaborate on that? is there something I should fix?
  • [19:24:46] <thurbad> nah, I was including the player in another app, in an eclipse project
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  • [19:25:34] <thurbad> it didn't occur to me that the order of magic-head/magic-tail and the files between was critical
  • [19:26:00] * mranostay waves to mru
  • [19:26:08] <thurbad> but it kept coming back with a message of Decoder '(null)' not found
  • [19:26:08] <mru> hehe
  • [19:26:58] <thurbad> decided to finally give up on compiling on the board....
  • [19:27:22] <mranostay> cross compiling ftw? :)
  • [19:27:45] <thurbad> yeah, once I figured out how to link all the libraries I needed
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  • [19:30:57] <jay6981> Mojito: probably to keep the dma buffer full
  • [19:32:03] <Mojito> Well, it renders the device pretty unusable.
  • [19:32:21] <thurbad> could be an issue with the default buffer size being too small
  • [19:33:25] <Mojito> I looked at the ref manual. There is 32KB of buffer space available, which has to be allocated among the (up to) 15 USB endpoints. I don't know how the linux driver chooses to do that
  • [19:33:36] <SilicaGel> rand()
  • [19:33:59] <thurbad> lol
  • [19:34:18] <Mojito> The overhead in waking up the kworker process is probably way more than the actual work it does
  • [19:35:21] <mranostay> Mojito: poorly written driver?
  • [19:35:52] <Mojito> Let;s; see. 16kHz mono audio at 16 bits per sample. About 128 kB/sec
  • [19:37:06] <Mojito> My thought was, after looking at the driver code in cppi41_dma, that this was written before the am33x devices came out, and maybe needs revision
  • [19:40:24] <Mojito> Ultimately I want to be using Bluetooth, not a USB headset, for this audio connection. But those interface via USB as well.
  • [19:40:46] <Mojito> But perhaps it is the audio driver that is at fault (I am using ALSA) rather than the DMA part
  • [19:42:06] <mranostay> well of course your are using ALSA
  • [19:42:10] <mranostay> what else is there? :)
  • [19:42:20] <Mojito> oss? lol
  • [19:42:24] <koen> blaming the dma is generally a good bet
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  • [19:42:55] <Mojito> cppi41_dma is not particularly complicated code, but it has practically no comments in it.
  • [19:43:06] <SilicaGel> what is a cppi41 please
  • [19:43:09] <Mojito> Copyrights say TI wrote it to start with
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  • [19:43:18] <Mojito> It is the low level USB DMA driver
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  • [19:46:25] <jsabeaudry> Oren was right, all of a sudden it would seem that bitbake expects quoted arguments
  • [19:47:44] <jsabeaudry> And stuff in meta-ti fail
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  • [21:20:37] <ynezz> bububu
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  • [21:31:44] <jwinnebeck> I remember IRC in the 90s on efnet was netsplits all day long
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  • [21:32:45] <mranostay> jwinnebeck: ok you old timer :P
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  • [21:33:43] <Dacobi> Can someone help me, I keep getting "Killed" when running exes build in CCS on the beaglebone??
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  • [21:35:29] <mranostay> Dacobi: sounds like a issue for the police
  • [21:36:01] <mru> ask detective dmesg what he thinks
  • [21:36:12] <ynezz> and rather wear helmet
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  • [21:37:05] <Dacobi> dmesg dosen't say anything
  • [21:37:30] <mranostay> mru: one troll at a time please :P
  • [21:37:38] <Dacobi> gdb says: During startup program terminated with signal SIGKILL, Killed.
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  • [21:38:34] <mru> mranostay: that was actually a genuine suggestion
  • [21:38:49] <mranostay> Dacobi: exes? this isn't Windows is it? :)
  • [21:39:01] <mru> mranostay: now who's trolling?
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  • [21:41:21] <Dacobi> If I say programs instead of exes will someone say something usefull?
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  • [21:42:20] <mranostay> touche
  • [21:43:11] <mru> Dacobi: can you get any more information from gdb?
  • [21:43:44] <mru> also try echo 1 >/proc/sys/kernel/print-fatal-signals
  • [21:43:50] <mru> then see if dmesg tells anything
  • [21:50:40] <Dacobi> still nothing from dmesg..
  • [21:51:14] <Dacobi> the only useful gdb command I know is bt but there is no stack since the program is killed during startup :-/
  • [21:51:39] <mru> _that_ early?
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  • [21:55:28] <ynezz> what does 'file program' says?
  • [21:55:57] <Crofton|work> -mthumb, discuss
  • [21:56:01] <Crofton|work> thumb2?
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  • [21:58:17] <mru> thumb should not cause such errors
  • [21:58:27] <mru> but indeed, what does file say?
  • [22:00:13] <Crofton|work> I am asking on a different topic
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  • [22:04:05] <mru> then please be a little more specific
  • [22:04:16] <Crofton|work> :)
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  • [22:08:08] <Dacobi> test2.out: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, not stripped
  • [22:11:11] <koen> Crofton|work: the -mthumb one is a relic from armv5te days in OE
  • [22:11:29] <Crofton|work> yeah
  • [22:11:37] <Crofton|work> does the compiler default to thumb2?
  • [22:11:44] <koen> no
  • [22:11:51] <Crofton|work> ah
  • [22:11:56] <Crofton|work> -mthumb2
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  • [22:12:06] <Crofton|work> how much "better" is thumb2?
  • [22:12:08] <koen> be carefull with thumb2
  • [22:12:18] <koen> early omap3 chips had some silicon issues
  • [22:12:28] <koen> 'old' toolchains had bug issues
  • [22:12:35] <Crofton|work> is anything in OE spitting out thumb2?
  • [22:12:40] <koen> Crofton|work: thumb2 covers teh complete insn set
  • [22:12:45] <Dacobi> I dont know if it is important but when linking I get this warning: warning #10247-D: creating output section ".sysmem" without a SECTIONS specification
  • [22:12:48] <koen> not partially like thumb1
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  • [22:47:28] <_av500_> Crofton|work: basically, one thumb on each ARM
  • [22:48:17] <Crofton|work> _av500_, thansk that clears everything up
  • [22:48:58] <_av500_> Crofton|work: all of android is thumb compiled afaik
  • [22:49:07] <_av500_> so it must be good
  • [22:49:11] <Crofton|work> thumb, or thumb2
  • [22:49:23] <_av500_> 2 i guess
  • [22:49:29] * Crofton|work hopes
  • [22:51:20] <_av500_> i remember in 2001 i struggled with CCS to have a mixed thumb/unthumb project
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