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  • [00:04:03] <Tartarus> roh-roy!
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  • [00:05:40] <mranostay> djlewis: did you chuck it out the window? :)
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  • [00:07:27] <djlewis> not mine to chuck. customer might want it working ;)
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  • [00:10:49] <ds2> djlewis: "Sorry madam/sir, your computer came with a self destruct virus that could not be disabled."
  • [00:10:49] <ds2> :)
  • [00:11:24] <djlewis> it vaporized on the workbench :)
  • [00:12:02] <aholler> protected through a key
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  • [00:13:19] <aholler> that will be the new type of virus, get into, change bootloader-key, done, no one can remove the virus ;)
  • [00:17:52] <mranostay> aholler: side project?
  • [00:18:34] <aholler> i don't work in the field of drm
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  • [00:22:09] <aholler> but I wonder when the first virus will come, which protects himself through mechanism someone told us are there to protect us against a virus.
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  • [00:28:55] <mranostay> skynet?
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  • [00:32:35] <djlewis> later . . .
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  • [01:09:38] <dfsmith> Hi. Does anyone here know why the Control_Module memory area appears read-only on the Beaglebone? (I note that the kernel does an ioremap() there, and hangs on: does that do strange cache things?)
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  • [01:18:04] <smp4488> how would i go about changing the boot video param from hdmi to usb?
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  • [01:21:27] <smp4488> "omapfb.mode=usb" ?
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  • [01:23:33] <aholler> video over usb?
  • [01:25:45] <mru> aholler: with enough force you might be able to squeeze an hdmi plug into a usb socket
  • [01:26:14] <aholler> some people achieved that with firewire ;)
  • [01:26:34] <smp4488> i have a usb monitor with a displaylink controller
  • [01:26:43] <smp4488> i did find this http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/arm/OMAP/DSS
  • [01:26:59] <aholler> dss can't talk with displaylink
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  • [01:27:12] <aholler> use a displaylink-driver
  • [01:28:05] <aholler> the kernel contains such a driver
  • [01:28:20] <smp4488> i have the touchscreen working, but im gettting a green screen. hdmi loads fine
  • [01:28:46] <smp4488> so the driver is loaded, i jest need to set the usb monitor as the default somehow
  • [01:29:02] <aholler> in your xorg.conf
  • [01:29:32] <aholler> just use a framebuffer-driver
  • [01:29:45] <smp4488> will that enable the framebuffer on boot though?
  • [01:30:13] <aholler> read about fbcon
  • [01:30:44] <smp4488> saw that somewhere, going to look
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  • [01:32:27] <aholler> sorry, wrong time, my beagle is offline, as I am. otherwise I could have a look ;)
  • [01:35:40] <aholler> but there are some tutorials foruisng displaylink out in the wild. every one of them (for linux) works as it isn't special for the beagleboard
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  • [01:44:23] <ds2> fitting a HDMI signal carrying connector into a USB socket doesn't require much force
  • [01:46:52] <aholler> I think I've read that there is now a usb-standard for video.
  • [01:48:15] <aholler> will just need some years until it reaches endusers ;)
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  • [01:51:47] <aholler> or everything (including trojans and viruses) will use thunderbold until then ;)
  • [01:56:03] <ds2> look at the sizes of the microUSB and the microHDMI connectors
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  • [03:13:24] <jvcleave> hello. Is the easiest way to set a DNS for a Beaglebone to edit /etc/resolv.conf ?
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  • [03:25:34] <jvcleave> hello. Is the easiest way to set a DNS for a Beaglebone to edit /etc/resolv.conf ?
  • [03:25:57] <jkridner_> yes, but dhcpd should do that for you automatically.
  • [03:26:06] <jkridner_> er, udhcpc
  • [03:29:29] <jvcleave> maybe this can solve both - is there a way for me to set the address as static thru info.txt?
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  • [03:35:05] <jkridner_> jvcleave: not through info.txt
  • [03:35:26] <jkridner_> I believe it would be in /etc/networking, but I'm not sure... let me check.
  • [03:35:45] <jkridner_> I think it is in /etc/network/interfaces
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  • [03:36:25] <jkridner_> info.txt is just a boot-time dump of the status.
  • [03:36:48] <jkridner_> copied over to the FAT partition so that you can find the IP address over USB mass-storage.
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  • [03:37:42] <jvcleave> gotcha
  • [03:37:51] <jvcleave> was thinking of trying a couple of distros and am trying to find the easiest process to get back
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  • [03:50:51] <rlmccormick> On the OE website they show a "supplementary package" for debian of apr. Does anyone know what this is? I can't seem to apt-get it
  • [03:51:09] <rlmccormick> i also don;t know if it even matters
  • [03:51:21] <jvcleave> looks like /etc/resolv.conf gets overwritten every reboot :(
  • [03:51:34] <jkridner_> udhcpc overwrites it.
  • [03:51:39] <jkridner_> you'll need to disable that from running.
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  • [05:49:41] <Bibi_> PWM = pulse width modulation? anyone a ref to more documentation on this?
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  • [05:55:49] <_av500_> Bibi_: google maybe?
  • [05:56:02] <jay6981> wikipedia is usually ok too
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  • [05:56:43] <_av500_> well, not today :)
  • [05:57:16] <jay6981> they haven't blacked out here yet
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  • [06:02:44] <jay6981> it's supposed to not work right?
  • [06:04:02] <_av500_> only in the us
  • [06:04:06] <Bibi_> yeah I know, hoped for some more keywords or a good link
  • [06:04:19] <jay6981> odd.. i'm in the US and it still seems to work
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  • [06:11:04] <Russ> Bibi_, pulse width modulation powers something with a certain amount of average power by modifying the duration and spacing of digital pulses
  • [06:11:18] <Russ> turn an led on and off a bunch of times and it appears dim
  • [06:12:37] <Russ> Bibi_, also, if you turn off wikimedia.org scripting, and block the sopa overlay, wikipedia works
  • [06:12:58] <_av500_> Russ: you are a strike breaker, this will be reported!
  • [06:13:00] <Russ> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PWM,_3-level.svg
  • [06:13:05] <Russ> can you see that?
  • [06:13:12] <Russ> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/PWM%2C_3-level.svg or this?
  • [06:14:18] <jay6981> oh, that's why it works for me??? noscript
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  • [06:20:50] <Russ> ya, all the extra wikipedia stuff always bugs me, I love the abp element hiding rule
  • [06:21:02] <Russ> er, tool
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  • [06:31:28] <Bibi_> Russ, tnx!
  • [06:31:32] <Bibi_> bye
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  • [07:56:08] <av500> I threw out all of the SOAP in protest, family not happy
  • [07:57:14] <aholler_> soap?
  • [07:57:30] <tomba> I don't see why we would need SOAP. the romans did just fine without.
  • [07:58:11] <av500> aholler_: dontcha read the interwebs, SOAP is evil!
  • [07:59:01] <av500> I like how engadget does it, they only show black products today....
  • [07:59:25] <aholler_> ah, us-stuff
  • [07:59:54] <aholler_> terror
  • [08:00:10] <aholler_> everywhere
  • [08:01:27] <aholler_> maybe a law from the islam would help, cut hands
  • [08:02:38] <tomba> yes, I agree. the government should be allowed to cut people's hands if they suspect the individual to be pirating.
  • [08:02:39] <av500> they prefer to cut wires
  • [08:02:53] <aholler_> sorry for beeing cynical, not my week
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  • [08:03:06] <av500> tomba: useless, people can still click with their noses
  • [08:04:01] <tomba> yes, nosy people are a problem too
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  • [08:10:45] <aholler_> hmm, need $125,000 for my next tablet
  • [08:11:04] <aholler_> http://www.reghardware.com/2012/01/17/hp_hawks_monster_multi_touch_display/
  • [08:11:48] <reisei> aholler_: I thought it includes car or something
  • [08:12:17] <aholler_> no arm => usable ;)
  • [08:13:47] <aholler_> just be sure nobody stands aside when you switch the desktop ;)
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  • [08:16:34] <reisei> we can use it instead of white boards!
  • [08:16:41] <Russ> I think one of my friends might be involved in SOAP somehow
  • [08:17:24] <ggreer> aholler_: put it on the floor and play twister
  • [08:17:26] <Russ> I think there might he's working on other bills too, somethiTTP and stuff
  • [08:17:46] <Russ> er, something about MEP, XML, HTTP, and stuff
  • [08:18:15] <aholler_> did he look monthy pthons ritter
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  • [08:18:38] <aholler_> uups, monthy pythons knight
  • [08:18:58] <aholler_> without arms and legs ;)
  • [08:19:50] <aholler_> could be an idea, as cutting hands doesn't work ;)
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  • [08:20:03] <Russ> No, but then he started about parsing his "yaml" and I told him look, what you do in your own home is your own business
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  • [08:47:42] <aholler_> I had to learn json recently. must be hip somewhere to invent new formats
  • [08:49:02] <aholler_> at least yaml knows comments ;)
  • [08:49:23] <av500> I met json kridner once
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  • [08:50:14] <aholler_> a man without comments ;)
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  • [10:15:17] <koen> sakoman_: we're talking about sgx stuff and 35xx now, send your complaints to kridner :)
  • [10:15:42] <av500> 35xx? is that a new chip?
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  • [10:23:29] <koen> av500: it must be, TI says it doesn't know about it
  • [10:25:00] <reisei> koen: do you know why in later SGX where is no driver for omap44xx?
  • [10:25:16] <av500> maybe that one also does not exist?
  • [10:25:32] <av500> 4430 at least does not
  • [10:26:20] <reisei> av500: also as 4460... but why?!
  • [10:26:44] <reisei> I need RAW sgx driver T__T
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  • [10:30:36] <reisei> av500: what was that? :)
  • [10:31:00] <av500> got temporarily instable
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  • [12:52:03] <glooser> hello? anyone around?
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  • [12:55:25] <av500> no, we are on SOAP strike
  • [12:56:38] <viridari> jvcleave: /etc/resolv.conf gets overwritten by dhcp client
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  • [12:58:29] <glooser> to bad :(
  • [12:59:17] <glooser> my beagleboard won't boot angstrom
  • [12:59:24] <av500> but if you disable javascript, we might be there
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  • [13:03:40] <glooser> no idea where to do that
  • [13:04:24] <av500> that was a joke wrt SOAP
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  • [13:04:46] <glooser> SOAP
  • [13:04:54] <glooser> still confused
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  • [13:05:36] <av500> glooser: there is a simple but yet effective trick to get help on IRC: ask a question
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  • [13:06:04] <glooser> sry, i'm new to ask for help on irc
  • [13:06:11] <av500> just ask
  • [13:06:51] <glooser> i followed the elinux beginners guide
  • [13:07:33] <glooser> download everything, formatted my sd card, copied files (in the order toled), extracted the tarballs
  • [13:07:53] <glooser> set bootargs and bootcmd
  • [13:08:02] <glooser> restarted my board, and it won't work
  • [13:08:20] <av500> you have a serail connection?
  • [13:08:23] <av500> serial
  • [13:08:24] <glooser> yes
  • [13:08:31] <av500> what board?
  • [13:08:58] <glooser> beagleboard rev C4
  • [13:09:37] <av500> revC have a high chance of getting the serial wrong
  • [13:09:38] <glooser> i have an output in my serial com but it only shows
  • [13:09:44] <av500> ah
  • [13:09:48] <av500> good
  • [13:09:51] <glooser> Texas Instruments X-Loader 1.4.2 (Feb 19 2009 - 12:01:24)
  • [13:09:51] <glooser> Reading boot sector
  • [13:09:51] <glooser> Loading u-boot.bin from mmc
  • [13:09:59] <av500> pastebin.com
  • [13:10:02] <glooser> and then is stuck there
  • [13:10:31] <glooser> ah ok
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  • [13:11:01] <glooser> but anyway those 3 lines is everything i get
  • [13:12:19] <glooser> do i need a display connected to the dvi-d?
  • [13:12:24] <av500> no
  • [13:16:48] <glooser> no i got this
  • [13:16:48] <glooser> http://pastebin.com/YAErWY8M
  • [13:17:22] <av500> good
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  • [13:17:25] <av500> so it boots
  • [13:17:34] <glooser> yes but its stuck aat the end
  • [13:18:09] <av500> ah, that's easy, you glare at koen
  • [13:18:38] <glooser> what?
  • [13:18:50] <av500> but it looks to me like your kernel and you userspace do not match
  • [13:19:37] <glooser> anyway to resolve that problem?
  • [13:20:01] <av500> yes, use kernel and matching userspace aka rootfs
  • [13:21:05] <glooser> so the script i used to format my sd card was wrong?
  • [13:21:21] <av500> that is not what I said
  • [13:21:30] <glooser> then i dont understand
  • [13:31:18] <glooser> how can i get a matching kernel and userspace?
  • [13:32:20] <av500> where did you get yours from?
  • [13:32:39] <glooser> my what?
  • [13:33:01] <av500> kernel and userspace
  • [13:33:54] <glooser> Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2011.1-beagleboard.rootfs.tar.bz2 -> thats my user space?
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  • [13:50:43] <hitlin37> what is a FX2 device in USB testing scenario?
  • [13:51:05] <hitlin37> is it some kind of testing device?
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  • [13:52:20] <av500> http://www.keil.com/dd/chip/3205.htm
  • [13:52:38] <av500> thats the FX2 I know
  • [13:55:36] <hitlin37> so..this keil board can be connected to any embedded board or PC....and when running code on embedded board..it will give some kind of response to commands...this is what i understood
  • [13:56:02] <av500> the FX2 is a usb device chip
  • [13:56:14] <av500> an 8051 with usb phy and fifos
  • [13:56:38] <av500> we used that in the past to add usb2 device to SOCs that did not have USB
  • [13:56:46] <hitlin37> oh
  • [13:57:46] <av500> e.g. the AV500 has such a chip inside :)
  • [13:58:59] <hitlin37> hmmm.....i think something like this can be used to test a usb functionality on any board....say a bb connected to it.there's a testusb program...which looks for FX2 kind of device connected ...to test read/write speed and all
  • [13:59:05] <hitlin37> :)
  • [13:59:27] <av500> where?
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  • [13:59:41] <av500> I guess the FX was popular 5ys ago for doing usb stuff
  • [13:59:44] <av500> FX2
  • [14:00:32] <hitlin37> http://www.linux-usb.org/usbtest/
  • [14:01:47] <av500> and it even mentions "Cypress EZ-USB"
  • [14:01:47] <hitlin37> basically,i want to do something like this:echo "test packet" > /sys/kernel/debug/testmode
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  • [14:01:52] <hitlin37> yup
  • [14:01:56] <hitlin37> i saw it
  • [14:02:32] <av500> the real fun is the Net2280EVB card
  • [14:02:41] <av500> that makes a PC a usb device
  • [14:06:37] <hitlin37> i played a lot with a usb board.....i'm not able to recall the name....some uk based....they had a good IDE with all the usb to ethernet developemt type of thing.
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  • [14:09:21] <hitlin37> this one.....http://uk.farnell.com/cyan/devkit1x-usb-ethernet/kit-evaluation-usb-enet/dp/1630913
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  • [14:26:56] <av500> hitlin37: that ecog CPU seems obsolete?
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  • [14:28:47] <hitlin37> yes...it was in 2009....
  • [14:29:52] <hitlin37> 16-bit one....they stopped selling this board after recession.
  • [14:34:30] <glooser> can someone tell me whats the userspace and whats the kernel?
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  • [14:35:15] <av500> userspace = root filesystem
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  • [14:36:49] <glooser> so thats the Angstrom image i downloaded?
  • [14:40:13] <av500> we dont know what you downloaded
  • [14:40:29] <glooser> Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2011.1-beagleboard.rootfs.tar.bz2
  • [14:41:01] <glooser> it says rootfs in its name so i figure
  • [14:41:39] <av500> yes
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  • [14:43:38] <glooser> and the uImage file is usaly the kernel?
  • [14:44:43] <av500> yes
  • [14:44:57] <av500> but the mismatch was just a guess
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  • [14:45:26] <av500> but since so did not state what you downloaded from where, there is no way to tell
  • [14:45:31] <av500> since so far
  • [14:46:06] <glooser> i downloaded from the baegleboard angstrom mirror @ http://angstrom.s3.amazonaws.com/demo/beagleboard/index.html
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  • [14:47:35] <av500> glooser: you downloaded what from there?
  • [14:48:51] <glooser> Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2011.1-beagleboard.rootfs.tar.bz2, MLO, modules-3.0.17+-r115a-beagleboard.tgz, u-boot-beagleboard-2011.12-r2.img and uImage-3.0.17-r115a-beagleboard-20120113135318.bin
  • [14:49:14] <glooser> and I renamed u-boot* -> u-boot.img and uImage-* -> uimage
  • [14:49:18] <glooser> *uImage
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  • [14:50:55] <glooser> and i forgot, mkcard.txt to format the sd card
  • [14:51:19] <av500> I would say that -ipk-2011.1-beagleboard.rootfs does not go well with a kernel that says beagleboard-201201
  • [14:51:40] <av500> there is like 12 month between these 2
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  • [14:52:19] <av500> not that I defend the mess on that download page
  • [14:52:33] <av500> glooser: try Angstrom-systemd-image-eglibc-ipk-v2012.01-core-beagleboard.rootfs.tar.bz2
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  • [14:53:25] <glooser> gonne try that, thx
  • [14:54:53] <glooser> the image is only 12MB, is that correct?
  • [14:55:47] <av500> hmm
  • [14:55:52] <av500> koen: ^^^
  • [14:55:55] <av500> koen: wake up
  • [14:56:16] <av500> glooser: there is also Angstrom-TI-GNOME-image-eglibc-ipk-v2012.01-core-beagleboard-2012.01.11.img.gz
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  • [14:57:24] <glooser> i will try both
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  • [15:11:32] <glooser> sweet it works
  • [15:11:35] <glooser> thx :)
  • [15:12:09] <av500> with which user space?
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  • [15:12:21] <glooser> Angstrom-systemd-image-eglibc-ipk-v2012.01-core-beagleboard.rootfs.tar.bz2
  • [15:13:07] <glooser> gonne try the otherone tomorrow
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  • [15:15:16] <jsabeaudry> glooser: You cannot download the MLO and u-boot from there
  • [15:15:23] <jsabeaudry> glooser: It's not working
  • [15:15:41] <glooser> because?
  • [15:16:03] <glooser> i'm quite sure i did, and its working
  • [15:16:17] <jsabeaudry> glooser: Because the mirror is screwed up, open the MLO file you downloaded to see it's content
  • [15:16:43] <jsabeaudry> glooser: Get the MLO and u-boot.img from here instead : http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/
  • [15:17:16] <av500> jsabeaudry: I strongly suspect he boots from NAND on the C4
  • [15:17:34] <av500> U-Boot 2009.11-rc1-00601-g3aa4b51 (Jan 05 2010 - 20:56:38)
  • [15:17:40] <jsabeaudry> av500: Oops my bad, I only read part of the conversation :)
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  • [15:18:24] <glooser> so i dont even need the MLO and u-boot files when i boot from nand?
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  • [15:18:28] <jsabeaudry> av500: But the MLO from the beagleboard mirror he linked is still bad
  • [15:18:40] <av500> jsabeaudry: mightbe
  • [15:18:55] <av500> I think it more bad that all these files are spread out all over the internet
  • [15:19:04] <glooser> jsabeaudry: what happens when i use it? my bb boots and i would even say boots fine
  • [15:19:04] <jsabeaudry> av500: Any idea who is the maintainer for that mirror?
  • [15:19:18] <av500> jkridner i guess
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  • [15:19:40] <jkridner___> yeah, i maintain the angstrom mirror.
  • [15:19:43] <av500> I dont understand why these files cannot be on beagleboard.org
  • [15:19:47] <glooser> but i will replace the MLO file
  • [15:19:51] <av500> and why that cannot be the only place
  • [15:19:58] <jsabeaudry> glooser: You can boot with this MLO?! http://angstrom.s3.amazonaws.com/demo/beagleboard/MLO
  • [15:20:06] <glooser> yes
  • [15:20:22] <jsabeaudry> glooser: It's just a text file containing the name of another file when I get it
  • [15:20:29] <av500> jsabeaudry: as I said, I suspect he boots from NAND
  • [15:20:50] <jsabeaudry> av500: Most probably indeed
  • [15:21:30] <jsabeaudry> jkridner___: All the files that are symlinks in the angstrom site are broken on the beagleboard.org mirror
  • [15:21:32] <glooser> jsabeaudry: ah well no, i saw the text and got the MLO-beagleboard-2011.12
  • [15:22:51] <glooser> jsabeaudry: i had to use that mirror, speed on the angstrom site was very low
  • [15:23:29] <jsabeaudry> glooser: Ah good, cause I've been wget'ing the files and took me a while to figure out that I wasn't getting what I was supposed to :)
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  • [15:32:38] <wmat> Crofton|work: http://meld.org/blog/spotlight/philip-balister
  • [15:33:43] <Crofton|work> rofl
  • [15:33:49] <Crofton|work> I'd forgot about that :)
  • [15:34:09] <wmat> heehee
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  • [16:08:15] <bonebone> hello, i'm still trying to work a lcd on a beaglebone, is the dss2 support integrated in the stock kernel of beaglebone? I only see dss
  • [16:08:41] <bonebone> is the name of the module omapdss or omapdss2?
  • [16:09:19] <bonebone> i always have the message omapfb omapfb: no displays
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  • [16:17:04] <av500> bonebone: the bone has no dss
  • [16:17:11] <av500> neither dss1, nor dss2
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  • [16:19:07] <bonebone> av500: so what i need to drive the lcd lines?
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  • [16:19:29] <bonebone> i need to make a kernel driver myself?
  • [16:19:44] <av500> I suspect there is one, but its not called dss for sure
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  • [16:20:39] <bonebone> root@beaglebone:/# cat /proc/fb
  • [16:20:39] <bonebone> 0 DA8xx FB Drv
  • [16:21:00] <bonebone> and do you know what this da8xx is?
  • [16:21:23] <av500> I assume its some TI part that has the same LCD driver as the bone cpu
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  • [16:22:03] <bonebone> i have attached a lcd to the bone but nothing displays even noise
  • [16:22:54] <bonebone> i suppose there must be a kernel module available, i think that ti sells a board with the am3359 and a lcd attached
  • [16:22:56] <av500> yes, but what lcd?
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  • [16:23:05] <av500> and what lcd did you attach?
  • [16:23:25] <bonebone> a 7 inch lcd crystalclear with vsync/hsync/den
  • [16:23:35] <av500> data sheet?
  • [16:23:49] <av500> and you verifed that such an lcd is supported by the LCD controller?
  • [16:24:05] <bonebone> no, this lcd is a sample
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  • [16:24:36] <bonebone> but i thought it was a solution of changing timings
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  • [16:25:17] <bonebone> now i see it's going to be much more difficult if dss is not there
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  • [16:26:09] <av500> this has got nothing to do with DSS or not
  • [16:26:16] <av500> the bone cpu has an LCD controller block
  • [16:26:24] <av500> and you LCD has to work with this block
  • [16:26:35] <av500> connecting a random LCD might not work
  • [16:27:15] <bonebone> but, the interface is similar in all lcd's, don't they? rgb and vsync/hsync/den
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  • [16:27:36] <jay6981> there's some polarity crap, how many data lines, etc
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  • [16:28:55] <bonebone> but what is the linux driver that drives the lcd controller block of am3359?
  • [16:29:07] <LetoThe2nd> different numbers/kinds of control signals ;)
  • [16:29:07] <bonebone> i need to start with something
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  • [16:29:16] <panto> hi ram_dam
  • [16:29:20] <av500> well, DA8xx is a good start
  • [16:29:25] <av500> grep is your friend
  • [16:29:35] <jay6981> CPU TRM?
  • [16:29:46] <jay6981> er SoC TRM
  • [16:29:52] <bonebone> ok, so modifying da8xx kernel module i can drive my lcd?
  • [16:29:55] <LetoThe2nd> av500: he, from where do you know Gerhard 'grep' Westenheimer?
  • [16:30:11] * emeb believes in hooking random hardware together and hoping for a miracle.
  • [16:30:19] <ram_dam> hi panto, so it seems everything went well :-)
  • [16:30:32] <jay6981> that miracle would sure save you some effort :)
  • [16:30:32] <panto> ram_dam, yes
  • [16:30:55] <emeb> jay6981: that's the way it works in the movies!
  • [16:31:17] <jay6981> don't forget to make it beep every time the console scrolls to a new line :)
  • [16:31:30] <emeb> and periodically shout "We're In!"
  • [16:31:57] * av500 hacks into the mainframe
  • [16:32:09] <LetoThe2nd> av500: the gibson?
  • [16:32:35] <jay6981> av500: psst??? the password is 'joshua'
  • [16:32:37] * emeb wonders why his LCD monitor makes TTY noises.
  • [16:33:26] <bonebone> is there any lcd working kernel modules to look at with beaglebone, it must not be too different of what i need
  • [16:34:25] <emeb> bonebone: look at this - http://boardzoo.com/product_info.php?products_id=86&osCsid=3aaa16da306452f22f9017a2f917c30c
  • [16:34:33] <bonebone> thx emeb
  • [16:34:35] <emeb> might give you some ideas
  • [16:35:47] <av500> linux/include/video/da8xx-fb.h:2: * Header file for TI DA8XX LCD controller platform data.
  • [16:35:50] <bonebone> mmm, my lcd doesn't have dvi, it has rgb interface
  • [16:36:59] <av500> linux/drivers/video/Makefile:158:obj-$(CONFIG_FB_DA8XX) += da8xx-fb.o
  • [16:37:19] <av500> bonebone: of course, but the DVI cape has a chip that takes RGB and makes DVI out of it
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  • [16:37:43] <emeb> bonebone: to use the LCD interface lines you'll probably need to modify the kernel to enable those pins.
  • [16:38:02] <emeb> Chances are good that interface is disabled in the default kernel.
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  • [16:38:56] * emeb was hoping the DVI cape pages would have info on software changes.
  • [16:39:08] * emeb was hoping in vain.
  • [16:39:46] <bonebone> ahap, i'm going to inspect the kernel, thx guys, i will post here my progressions
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  • [16:41:56] <av500> bonebone: linux/drivers/video/da8xx-fb.c
  • [16:42:03] <av500> there are some panels defined there already
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  • [16:43:57] <woglinde_> hi av500
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  • [16:47:46] <bonebone> av500: yes, i see there are 4 panels defined, the TFC_S9700RTWV35TR_01B has the same resolution as mine, :) thx
  • [16:48:06] <av500> resolution is easy, how it is connected is the hard part
  • [16:48:48] <emeb> OMG! cuteoverload.com is offline today.
  • [16:49:13] <woglinde_> SOPA for the win
  • [16:51:07] <koen> emeb: http://git.angstrom-distribution.org/cgi-bin/cgit.cgi/meta-texasinstruments/tree/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-ti33x-psp-3.1/0003-ARM-OMAP2-beaglebone-add-DVI-support-needs-cleanup.patch
  • [16:51:49] <emeb> bonebone: ^^^^
  • [16:52:13] <emeb> koen: any news on audio support for the beaglebone?
  • [16:52:26] <emeb> I hacked on that for a while w/o success. Will try again soon.
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  • [16:53:46] <koen> emeb: nope
  • [16:53:57] <emeb> koen: bummer.
  • [16:53:59] <woglinde_> so lets fix my java stuff a bit
  • [16:54:09] * emeb is frustrated with ALSA SoC
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  • [16:55:18] <woglinde_> emeb why?
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  • [16:56:37] <emeb> woglinde: Turning on devices is mysterious - very little feedback from ALSA on what's going on.
  • [16:57:02] <Mojito> I'd settle to WiFi+Bluetooth on the BeagleBone, and get at audio that way
  • [16:57:11] <av500> koen: 1024x768@60 is WVGA?
  • [16:57:20] <woglinde> wiki knows
  • [16:57:47] <jay6981> W is for the wide modes (16:10), no?
  • [16:58:30] <av500> yes, but VGA is still 640x480
  • [16:58:36] <av500> so WVGA is 800x480
  • [16:58:43] <emeb> woglinde: which wiki?
  • [16:58:43] <jay6981> 1024x768 is 'XGA'
  • [16:58:52] <av500> jay6981: I know
  • [16:59:06] <av500> but koens lcd driver uses "1024x768@60" and WVGA
  • [16:59:16] <woglinde> emeb the SOPA wiki
  • [16:59:51] <av500> woglinde: SOPA con pollo?
  • [17:00:32] <emeb> sopapilla
  • [17:00:57] <woglinde> hm oh
  • [17:01:10] <woglinde> I thought wikipedia wanted to go down too
  • [17:02:40] <jay6981> wikipedia is still up. they just did a javascript block??? noscript ftw
  • [17:02:57] <av500> or m.wikipedia
  • [17:03:05] <woglinde> lol
  • [17:03:09] <woglinde> thats stupid
  • [17:03:33] <av500> no
  • [17:03:33] <jay6981> it gets the point across to the unsophisticated i suppose
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  • [17:03:51] <av500> woglinde: fun: https://twitter.com/#!/herpderpedia
  • [17:03:59] <woglinde> ieekks twitter
  • [17:04:03] <woglinde> I avoid it
  • [17:04:32] <av500> sure
  • [17:04:41] <av500> but stupid ppl dont
  • [17:04:50] <av500> and they get the soap effect
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  • [17:10:01] <bonebone> av500: hablas espanyol?
  • [17:10:18] <av500> una cerveza mas por favor
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  • [17:10:27] <bonebone> jaja
  • [17:10:48] <emeb> donde esta el bano?
  • [17:10:57] <av500> I can do a passable mock spanish
  • [17:11:12] <bonebone> you read spanish for dummies eh?
  • [17:11:24] <emeb> aye caramba - el candelabra muy peligrosa.
  • [17:11:27] <av500> no, I extrapolate from french
  • [17:12:00] <emeb> lo siento, tu tienes un numero equivocado.
  • [17:12:31] <av500> yes, I like avocado!
  • [17:12:47] <bonebone> que te den por culo
  • [17:12:54] <jsabeaudry> oye gringo!
  • [17:13:06] * emeb contemplates the equivalence of errors and avocados.
  • [17:13:35] <emeb> I don't que what you call your pasa.
  • [17:15:30] <ogra_> yummy, pasta !
  • [17:17:00] <emeb> I think we've established that many words in spanish sound like food.
  • [17:17:11] <ogra_> :)
  • [17:17:36] <av500> main usage of spanish for non-spanish people is to order food
  • [17:17:42] <av500> so it makes sense
  • [17:20:57] * emeb wonders what german sounds like to non-german speakers...
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  • [17:21:25] <av500> like blitzkrig!
  • [17:21:28] <av500> +e
  • [17:21:31] <av500> like blitzkrieg!
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  • [17:21:37] <Russ> I'll take 2!
  • [17:21:51] <emeb> that sounds like food too.
  • [17:22:07] <jay6981> dutch is the most frustrating for me to listen to
  • [17:22:14] <jay6981> sounds like a very disabled person trying to speak english or something
  • [17:22:26] <jack5> Somehow I have managed to get my beagle into a state where it spits out garbage over the serial port like this "40W40W"
  • [17:22:33] <jack5> can someone help?
  • [17:22:38] <emeb> heh - with a big plegmwad in their throat.
  • [17:22:43] <jay6981> yes
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  • [17:23:04] <jay6981> jack5: you broke the bootloader somehow
  • [17:23:19] <Mojito> Wrong terminal baudrate?
  • [17:23:28] <jack5> hmm...any tips on how to fix this...I should mention this is at boot...
  • [17:24:11] <jack5> Mojito: baud is default which worked before i.e. E - Bps/Par/Bits : 115200 8N1
  • [17:25:56] <jack5> I was actually running android earlier and then tried switch to Angstrom when this happened...its frustrating :(
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  • [17:28:16] <jack5> jay6981: do you mean the bootloader in the nand flash is broken? if so how can I fix it?
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  • [17:31:21] <jay6981> jack5: google searching helps here???.. http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleNANDFlashing
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  • [17:39:25] <jack5> jay6981: Thanks..Thats what I was looking for...if you please I have a follow up question which comes from my lack of understanding here...isnt uboot the bootloader?
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  • [17:40:28] <jay6981> jack5: there's two parts to the "bootloader", stage1 is MLO, stage2 is uboot
  • [17:40:37] <jay6981> MLO aka x-load
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  • [17:41:12] <jack5> then why do we need another bootloader in the nand flash?
  • [17:41:49] <woglinde> jay6981 you forgot the part which loads x-load
  • [17:42:09] <woglinde> jack5 btw. you dont need nand at all
  • [17:42:10] <jay6981> well yes??? the stage0 soc mask rom
  • [17:42:12] <woglinde> boot from sdcard
  • [17:42:33] <jay6981> jack5: i'm not sure about that. i'm familiar with working on a board without nand. i boot off the MMC/SD entirely
  • [17:43:07] <woglinde> nand is so early 2000
  • [17:43:07] <jay6981> beagle can probably boot off MMC if your card is setup right
  • [17:43:09] * woglinde runs
  • [17:43:22] <prpplague> hehe
  • [17:44:23] <woglinde> till later
  • [17:45:03] <jack5> Yes I was always booting from Sd card for the last year, the problem happened when I started seeing garbage on the serial terminal and my sd card was not working...
  • [17:45:27] <jay6981> jack5: so maybe something messed around with the partition table or boot partiion of that SD card
  • [17:45:37] <jay6981> if things aren't "just right" it won't work
  • [17:46:39] <jack5> jay6981 are you saying that even if my sd card setup is perfect then irrespective of the state of the nand flash the board will boot from sd card?
  • [17:46:39] <jay6981> but you may have been using a bootloader in nand and not knowing it. i'm not familiar with your skill level
  • [17:46:57] <jay6981> jack5: yes, that is my understanding.
  • [17:47:40] <jay6981> jack5: it fact that you get those characters on the serial says to me that the boot rom failed to boot off every source it knows and is now trying to boot from UART
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  • [17:48:40] <jack5> jay6981: thanks. that helps...do I, through bootargs, need to tell the beagleboard about my boot preferences?
  • [17:48:56] <jay6981> yes, but that is a function of u-boot and you're not even getting u-boot up
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  • [17:49:31] <jay6981> jack5: your board is missing a stage1 "MLO" somehow
  • [17:50:21] <jack5> ok, I will try to setup my sd card properly, give it another try and come back with results...it will not be before tonight...I did load MLO from the angstrom image ..I also made sure I loaded the MLO first before uboot and uImage...I guess I will format the sd card once again and do the whole run.
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  • [17:50:53] <jay6981> jack5: don't forget to check that the #1 FAT partition is marked "active" and/or "bootable"
  • [17:51:47] <jay6981> jack5: good luck
  • [17:57:37] <bonebone> is the ti's linux kernel of am3358/9 more developed than the angstrom-distribution one for beaglebone?
  • [17:59:10] <jay6981> bonebone: i'd like to know the answer to that myself
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  • [18:02:43] <Rickey> hi
  • [18:02:47] <Rickey> hi
  • [18:03:06] <Rickey> i need some help on BB ubuntu
  • [18:03:13] <bonebone> jay6981: but the ti people is mantaining the beaglebone angstrom distribution too, arent they?
  • [18:03:25] <bonebone> it's not clear to me
  • [18:03:53] <jay6981> bonebone: i'd like to know as well
  • [18:04:06] <jay6981> i'm just as confused
  • [18:05:24] <Tartarus> Well, what do you mean by maintaining?
  • [18:05:41] <Tartarus> Koen is employed by TI, and does a lot of work on Angstrom :)
  • [18:06:59] <jay6981> Tartarus: how does stuff eventually end up in the vanilla kernel source? is there a diagram of the "stream"?
  • [18:07:09] <jay6981> (specifically the arm branch)
  • [18:07:28] <Tartarus> jay6981: There is not a diagram, but there are folks working on upstreaming features to both the kernel and u-boot
  • [18:07:29] <bonebone> mmm, i want to know if there is anything missing in angstrom that exists in ti-sdk-am335x-evm-05.03.01.00
  • [18:07:37] <Tartarus> If you checkout linux-omap you'll see some stuff being posted
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  • [18:07:47] <Tartarus> bonebone: There is not
  • [18:08:00] <Tartarus> Angstrom uses the TI kernel and then some patches on top for various features they want
  • [18:08:29] <jay6981> Tartarus: linux-omap where? do you have a link?
  • [18:08:45] <Tartarus> jay6981: The linux-omap ML
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  • [18:08:53] <Tartarus> Hit up google or gmane :)
  • [18:09:06] <jay6981> Tartarus: thx
  • [18:09:15] <Tartarus> But you can't do much/anything with vanilla kernel on bone
  • [18:09:18] <bonebone> thx tartarus
  • [18:09:26] <Tartarus> Next u-boot release will at least boot on bone
  • [18:09:29] <jay6981> it's often difficult to figure out the canonical sources of stuff for us newbies :)
  • [18:09:31] <Tartarus> But not at 720MHz, just 500
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  • [18:10:00] <mru> from canonical you'll only get ubuntu...
  • [18:10:14] <Tartarus> hi-o!
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  • [18:10:21] <jay6981> i didn't use a capital C
  • [18:10:29] <bonebone> at least if i have to hack the da8xx-fb.c file, i want it to be the latest and greatest :D
  • [18:11:02] <Tartarus> bonebone: Depends on what you mean there
  • [18:11:15] <Tartarus> Upstream efforts will take a while to have all the functionality the TI stuff does
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  • [18:12:13] <rickey> I have installed ubuntu-desktop on my BB
  • [18:12:17] <rickey> its running too slow
  • [18:12:37] <bonebone> i want to put a lcd screen in the bone, so i didn't know if i had to touch angstrom kernel or ti's kernel
  • [18:12:47] <Tartarus> rickey: Do you have it plugged into the wall for power? Or just USB
  • [18:13:51] <rickey> wall power
  • [18:14:04] <rickey> its running fine.. but too slow
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  • [18:14:36] <rickey> kswapd0 is taking too much cpu
  • [18:14:36] <rickey> :/
  • [18:14:49] <rickey> hi mythos
  • [18:14:57] <Tartarus> Right, I was asking since USB only gives you 500MHz
  • [18:14:59] <Tartarus> Wall gives you 720
  • [18:15:04] <Mojito> Isn't Ubuntu kinda bloated for a BBone?
  • [18:15:19] <jsabeaudry_> rickey: Have you tried running without swap?
  • [18:15:21] <rickey> I am having BB rev c3
  • [18:15:28] <rickey> how to run it without swap?
  • [18:15:29] <Tartarus> rickey: Recompile the kernel, turn off swap support?
  • [18:15:50] <rickey> ok
  • [18:15:52] <jsabeaudry_> rickey: swap on a class 4 microsd card has got to be super slow
  • [18:16:05] <Tartarus> What jsabeaudry_ said too
  • [18:16:14] <rickey> yeah I am having class 4 microSD
  • [18:16:25] <rickey> should i upgrade ?
  • [18:16:32] <Tartarus> No, just don't swap
  • [18:16:45] <Tartarus> Don't add a swap partition
  • [18:16:51] <Tartarus> And disable support in the kernel too
  • [18:17:04] <jsabeaudry_> rickey: You should upgrade and also not have swap, the upgrade will reduce your boot time
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  • [18:18:10] <rickey> i mention that i am using BB rev C3
  • [18:18:15] <jay6981> bonebone: well tartarus told us that angstrom kernel is based off TI, plus patches
  • [18:18:19] <rickey> is it capable of ubuntu-desktop?
  • [18:18:29] <jay6981> bonebone: so you have to make a decision as to what you want to start from
  • [18:18:59] <Tartarus> rickey: You'll have to decide for yourself, but start by doing a swapoff on the swap partition
  • [18:19:21] <rickey> i dont have swap partition on SD
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  • [19:10:12] <djlewis> gm :)
  • [19:11:29] <woglinde> hi djlewis
  • [19:11:32] <woglinde> pizza again?
  • [19:11:56] <djlewis> yesterday.. today i brought my lunch
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  • [19:31:33] <djlewis> i got it wrong yesterday, its stm32 Discovery, not launchpad which is msp430 TI
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  • [20:05:42] <djlewis> ds2: here is your small version:
  • [20:05:43] <djlewis> http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/STMicroelectronics/STM8SVLDISCOVERY/?qs=x4mIqYqgIIcjKIKQb8UZhQ%3d%3d
  • [20:09:05] <jay6981> so is this where angstrom gets kernel? http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap.git;a=summary
  • [20:09:21] <woglinde> look at the recipe
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  • [20:12:58] <Tartarus> jay6981: What woglinde said, and no, it's on the arago-project git server
  • [20:13:12] <Tartarus> That is the main linux-omap tree
  • [20:13:31] <Tartarus> But as I was saying earlier, there's lots of work to get am33xx (beaglebone) support into shape for that
  • [20:14:05] <jay6981> so arago-project/linux-omap will eventually end up in kernel.org linux-omap?
  • [20:14:25] <denix> ideally :)
  • [20:15:09] <denix> super-ideally is even in torvalds main kernel :)
  • [20:15:39] <jay6981> nice??? makes more sense to me now
  • [20:22:28] <piezo> what is arago now? can someone make it clear a little bit, linaro (using now for panda?), linus main kernel and now arago
  • [20:23:24] <denix> http://arago-project.org
  • [20:24:24] <piezo> all people say they are dedicated to somewhat... now a new thing appeared, openembedded...whats their role
  • [20:25:02] <Tartarus> openembedded is older than linaro I think :)
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  • [20:26:03] <piezo> main thing for me is to have a working kernel, all other should be my decision...which is have...but what are they trying to do
  • [20:26:04] <denix> much older
  • [20:27:11] <piezo> cant find any kernel on arago project (source)
  • [20:27:55] <denix> http://arago-project.org/git/projects/
  • [20:29:22] <piezo> 2.6.37?
  • [20:30:42] <piezo> no 3.x.x kernel around
  • [20:30:42] <piezo> ?
  • [20:31:02] <Tartarus> for beaglebone? There's 3.something
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  • [20:31:23] <Tartarus> http://arago-project.org/git/projects/?p=linux-am33x.git;a=summary
  • [20:31:28] <denix> 335 is on 3.1 kernel
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  • [20:31:36] <Tartarus> again, see the kernel recipe in angstrom, that's what it uses iirc
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  • [20:32:21] <piezo> whats bb-xm?
  • [20:32:23] <piezo> denix
  • [20:32:30] <denix> beagleboard-xm
  • [20:32:59] <denix> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard
  • [20:33:00] <jay6981> that's omap35xx
  • [20:33:14] <piezo> denix: is this a 335? i just wanted to ask, sorry... got panda-es and bb-xm for a day and im learning and penetrating a lot of people atm :D
  • [20:33:29] <denix> BeagleBone is 335
  • [20:33:55] <piezo> and bb-xm just omap3?
  • [20:34:15] <piezo> "just", i mean the repo
  • [20:34:25] <denix> btw, arago is not about kernels, it's about linux distro/SDK, where kernel is just a small part :)
  • [20:35:00] <denix> piezo: majority of bb-xm kernel support is already upstream, so you don't need linux-omap3 from arago
  • [20:35:25] <piezo> ah okay, its in linus's kernel? i dont see to have full cpu speed for example
  • [20:35:32] <denix> several people already said, check the recipe to see which kernel it uses
  • [20:35:41] <piezo> (i dont use angstrom)
  • [20:35:50] <piezo> armhf is in favour
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  • [20:37:47] <denix> for 1GHz support on bb-xm you need a separate patch anyway
  • [20:37:49] <denix> http://arago-project.org/git/?p=arago.git;a=tree;f=recipes/linux/linux-3.0/beagle;hb=HEAD
  • [20:38:16] <denix> all that is also available in angstrom, of course
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  • [20:44:07] <piezo> okay, i got these patches from robertcnelson already (its in his stable-kernel script)
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  • [20:58:25] <movi> anyone here running gentoo on beagleboard ?
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  • [20:58:57] <movi> anyone here running gentoo on the beagleboard ?
  • [21:00:19] * dm8tbr has a space-heater instead
  • [21:01:18] <movi> very funny. actually i'm crosscompiling a gentoo system to a beagleboard. however i'm having problems with python
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  • [21:02:04] <movi> i have a nice wrapper for emerge for cross-compiling to arm, thanks to crossdev. however when compiling python, it selects my x86_64 compiler, and i don't know why :/
  • [21:02:11] <movi> every other package behaves
  • [21:04:59] <djlewis> be careful of snakes, they can't be trusted ;)
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  • [21:21:12] <aholler> movi: sure
  • [21:22:01] <ds2> ka6sox: ready for the weekend?
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  • [21:23:48] <movi> aholler : nvrmnd, got it to work :)
  • [21:24:18] <ka6sox> ds2, I hope!
  • [21:24:22] <ka6sox> you gonna make it down?
  • [21:27:19] <ds2> ka6sox: no. :( I am about eyeball deepin stuff. too many things too early this year
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  • [21:27:51] <Russ> where are we going?
  • [21:28:00] <ka6sox> socallinuxexpo.org
  • [21:28:23] <ka6sox> ds2, okay let me catch up with you during or after SCaLE...we should talk :D
  • [21:28:37] <Russ> bummer, I'll be in LA the weekend *after* that
  • [21:29:03] <Russ> and anyway, this weekend is http://www.azwags4wishes.com/
  • [21:29:50] <ds2> ka6sox: after is probally best. (this is also Lunar New Years weekend so traffic could be nuts)
  • [21:30:28] <ka6sox> of course....several folks I would normally see have obligations :D
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  • [21:31:53] <ds2> wanted to get away for the weekend but things are just not lining up :(
  • [21:31:54] <jsabeaudry_> Is it normal that lsmod only lists one module loaded (ipv6) on the beaglebone systemd image? I would have expected to have a bunch of stuff in there such as drivers, etc.
  • [21:35:06] <Tartarus> jsabeaudry_: more stuff compiled in, iirc
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  • [21:35:31] <mru> if you get far enough to run lsmod, your kernel is clearly good
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  • [21:40:23] <jsabeaudry_> Tartarus: Ok, interesting, I guess that is done to reduce boot time, is that correct?
  • [21:43:17] <mru> or for simplicity
  • [21:43:33] <_av500_> or for becauseIcouldness
  • [21:43:48] <mru> building essential drivers as modules is pointless
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  • [21:44:50] <_av500_> ah right
  • [21:44:56] <_av500_> i read just systemd :)
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  • [22:16:46] <jsabeaudry_> Do many people that recompile their bb kernel themselves use OpenEmbedded?
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  • [22:17:28] <jsabeaudry_> A wiki page on eLinux.org suggest that it can be tricky
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  • [22:18:32] <ds2> it is trivial
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  • [22:22:39] <djlewis> jsabeaudry_: someone made comments recently on some minor changes to OE setup
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  • [22:23:52] <ka6sox> jsabeaudry_, if you follow the directions you can quite easily
  • [22:24:34] <woglinde> and ask the pro's
  • [22:25:00] <xxiao> anyone knows cc3300 from ti
  • [22:25:34] <xxiao> how much is it...if it's low-power enough we can get rid of zigbee all together
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  • [22:40:52] <mouser58907> When I try to connect to GateOne on my beagle bone it says I'm being redirected in a way that will not stop.
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  • [22:47:20] <mouser58907> I'm using https://192.168.7.2
  • [22:47:28] <mouser58907> and I can access cloudnine fine
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  • [23:09:45] <mouser> I'm back
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  • [23:19:24] <djlewis> mouser: you didnt miss anything. .
  • [23:21:58] <thurbad> mouser: what's 192.168.7.2... looks like a local ip address
  • [23:22:14] <mouser> well, i'm able to ssh using putty, so that is good enough
  • [23:22:24] <mouser> it's the beaglebone's IP
  • [23:22:31] <thurbad> ah, 'k
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  • [23:26:30] <mouser> Does Angstrom have a change log? There was a new release it looks like, and I'm trying to decide if it is worth upgrading
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  • [23:30:04] <ds2> git?
  • [23:30:14] <ds2> prehaps -- git log --oneline
  • [23:30:18] <emeb> git along little dogies?
  • [23:32:07] <ds2> hey emeb, what do you think about emitter followers as a "amp" for PWM out?
  • [23:32:28] <emeb> ds2: seems OK to me. Kinda depends on what the load is.
  • [23:33:17] <ds2> 32ohm, inductive (mini spkr)
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  • [23:34:14] <emeb> ds2: just looking to make a noise, or actually trying for reasonable audio fidelity?
  • [23:34:33] <ds2> trying to have some semblence of fidelity
  • [23:34:46] <ds2> Spice suggests it will work electrically
  • [23:35:20] <ds2> better then a collector load arrangement which makes sense given the low Z
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  • [23:36:17] <emeb> ds2: about the only issue I'd see is that the speaker will see a strong DC component. Not sure how the voicecoil/PM reacts to that.
  • [23:36:51] <emeb> Normally there's a DC blocking cap in speakers, or else an H-bridge arrangement.
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  • [23:37:23] <emeb> I assume the PWM freq is above audible.
  • [23:38:16] <ds2> yes, well above audible
  • [23:38:29] <ds2> I could toss in a 10uF DC blocker
  • [23:39:16] <emeb> Won't work with emitter-follower unless you've got a load resistor for DC bias of the xtr.
  • [23:39:21] <ds2> spice shows it somewhat touchy on the caps
  • [23:39:37] <ds2> no, it would be in series with the spkr
  • [23:40:05] <emeb> hmm. I'd have to think about that.
  • [23:40:06] <ds2> the cap/spkr would parallel the emitter follower load resistor
  • [23:40:15] <emeb> Yes - that's right.
  • [23:41:39] <emeb> Probably worth breadboarding, but sounds generally OK.
  • [23:43:06] <ds2> real breadboarding? any reason to suggest SPICE isn't good enough?
  • [23:43:28] <emeb> heh - that's just me.
  • [23:43:50] <emeb> Real test of something like that is what it _sounds_ like. Spice can't really tell you that.
  • [23:44:05] <Russ> it can when you output to wav :)
  • [23:44:53] <ds2> fair enough
  • [23:45:03] <Russ> it can just take a really long time
  • [23:45:13] <ds2> Russ: what spice do you use?
  • [23:45:40] <Russ> ngspice
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  • [23:46:17] <ds2> what is the reasoning for picking that over the others?
  • [23:46:41] <Russ> it "worked"
  • [23:46:49] <Russ> for certain meanings of the word
  • [23:47:02] <Russ> I found this too, which helps http://www.h-renrew.de/h/python_spice/spicedata.html
  • [23:47:46] <ds2> does ngspice have schematic capture?
  • [23:47:53] <Russ> through gschem
  • [23:48:09] <Russ> its not quite what you'd call "intuitive" though
  • [23:48:14] <Russ> for most meanings of the word
  • [23:48:19] <emeb> I've done that before. Works ok, but I usually just write the decks by hand.
  • [23:49:53] <ds2> how do they compare with the "high end" stuff like psice?
  • [23:49:58] <Russ> ngspice provides handly things like dac_bridge, adc_bridge, binary logic, pwl's, etc
  • [23:50:20] <Russ> ngspice isn't very friendly when it tells you that it doesn't understand what it wants
  • [23:50:25] <Russ> er, what you want
  • [23:50:46] <Russ> consume memory endlessly, or segfault are pretty typical responses
  • [23:51:27] <ds2> sounds like things the LTspice guy was saying
  • [23:51:49] <Russ> http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/russell_dill/darter.html
  • [23:53:05] <Russ> http://www.flickr.com/photos/31208937@N06/6068852314/
  • [23:53:25] <emeb> purty!
  • [23:54:24] <Russ> someone really needs to take gnucap and ngspice, splice them up, and make a verilog-ams tool
  • [23:54:36] <Russ> oh, and icarus
  • [23:54:42] <ds2> that'd be nice
  • [23:55:23] <Russ> and using that as a smoke screen, go in and destroy vhdl while no one is watching
  • [23:55:50] <ds2> more fun to have competing languages
  • [23:56:02] <ds2> but isn't VHDL more 'standardized'?
  • [23:56:36] <Russ> vhdl is ada like, verilog is c like
  • [23:57:28] <ds2> didn't vhdl also shared some roots with ada like DoD or gov't related?
  • [23:57:42] <Russ> yes