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  • [01:25:12] <dsoto_af> any good resources for a beagle xm that won't get a dhcp address?
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  • [01:37:28] <jkridner> koen: also: http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2011/11/21/sign-up-adafruit-proto-cape-kit-for-beagle-bone/
  • [01:40:46] <dsoto_af> usb0 doesn't show an ip address
  • [01:41:25] <jkridner> ds2: is it not at http://www.ti.com/product/tps65217 per http://beagleboard.org/bone ?
  • [01:41:55] <jkridner> http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tps65217.pdf looks like a datasheet to me.
  • [01:44:16] <dsoto_af> using netstat -nr there is no entry for 192.168.1.0 in the destination column
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  • [01:44:50] <jkridner> dsoto_af: is the hub light on?
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  • [01:45:01] <jkridner> I guess it does show up under ifconfig?
  • [01:45:20] <jkridner> could be usb0 or eth0, depending on the kernel.
  • [01:45:34] <dsoto_af> angstrom kernel
  • [01:45:50] <dsoto_af> usb0 shows HWaddr but no inet addr
  • [01:46:14] <dsoto_af> also, green and yellow LED not lit on ethernet jack
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  • [01:47:27] <jkridner> did you try 'udhcpc -i usb0' ?
  • [01:47:41] <dsoto_af> will do, just a sec
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  • [01:49:33] <dsoto_af> Sending discover... * 3 and then run-parts:...exited with code 1
  • [01:50:25] <dsoto_af> the fact that the LED's aren't lit disturbs me
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  • [01:54:26] <jkridner> do you have an xM Rev C and an old kernel?
  • [01:54:39] <dsoto_af> this is on an xM
  • [01:54:52] <dsoto_af> oops rev B
  • [01:54:54] <jkridner> might try http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard to get a newer bootloader/kernel
  • [01:54:55] <jkridner> k.
  • [01:55:13] <jkridner> so, not likely due to an old kernel.
  • [01:55:33] <jkridner> no lights is concerning.
  • [01:55:55] <dsoto_af> they were working before
  • [01:56:05] <dsoto_af> have you heard of hardware failure on the ethernet port?
  • [01:58:52] <jkridner> I have not, but you should check with the RMA team.... http://beagleboard.org/support
  • [02:00:15] <dsoto_af> jkridner: thanks for the help
  • [02:12:55] <perter-jim> hi
  • [02:13:18] <perter-jim> DM37x SGX output error , HWRecoveryResetSGX: SGX Hardware Recovery triggered
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  • [02:37:12] <ds2> jkridner: that is a preview datasheet without any useful info
  • [02:39:23] <ds2> jkridner: you might notice it lacks the usual data and states preview on the sides
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  • [02:46:04] <raster> ??????
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  • [05:14:11] <doublebeta> FU. All the cool chips are not hand solderable (BGA).
  • [05:14:57] <doublebeta> Forever a Beagle (ab)user.
  • [05:29:02] <dm8tbr> there are people doing BGA in toaster ovens with reasonable success. ;)
  • [05:29:25] <doublebeta> Too much risk >_<
  • [05:29:42] <doublebeta> But thanks for the pointer
  • [05:30:12] <Russ_> I think skillets offer more success for bga
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  • [05:39:07] <ds2> you can do all the BGAs you want in a toaster oven
  • [05:39:18] <ds2> at $60/each... I'll pay someone who will backup their work!
  • [05:39:57] <Russ> ds2, I'm running rdiff-backup *right now*
  • [05:39:58] <Russ> paup up
  • [05:39:59] <doublebeta> I'll have to see how large the balls are, perhaps I can develop a socket...
  • [05:40:02] <Russ> er, pay up
  • [05:40:19] <Russ> doublebeta, bad idea, defeats the purpose of bga
  • [05:40:40] <doublebeta> Well, I don't want to put any heat on a BGA chip
  • [05:40:52] <Russ> its designed to take a certain amount of heat
  • [05:41:08] <Russ> especially given rohs
  • [05:41:12] <doublebeta> And governments are designed to work
  • [05:42:14] <Russ> you put it is a socket, a, it would have been cheaper just to have someone reflow it, and b, you throw all your impedances out of whack (tons more inductance)
  • [05:42:33] <doublebeta> Hm. Point taken about the impedance
  • [05:42:53] <ds2> bah
  • [05:42:56] <ds2> that's why you use POP!
  • [05:43:05] <ds2> no stupid impedences ;)
  • [05:43:10] <doublebeta> ohshi POP
  • [05:43:11] <Russ> the power of ground bounce compels you
  • [05:43:15] <doublebeta> I cannot use POP
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  • [05:43:29] <doublebeta> There are few manufactureres capable of POP
  • [05:43:32] <doublebeta> And it ain't cheap
  • [05:43:34] <Russ> ds2, yes, somehow he doesn't want to reflow bga onto a pcb...but POP?
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  • [05:43:41] <doublebeta> And probably impossible in a single run
  • [05:43:44] <ds2> POP is wonderful and the best thing to ever be conceived
  • [05:43:50] <Russ> doublebeta, most manufacturers are capable of POP, they just don't know
  • [05:43:53] <doublebeta> POP is evil for hobbyists
  • [05:43:57] <ds2> Russ: pay someone to pre pop it for you
  • [05:44:06] <ds2> POP is the greatest thing for hobbyiest since sliced bread
  • [05:44:12] <doublebeta> Not really.
  • [05:44:23] <doublebeta> It's great if all you wanna do is buy Beagleboards
  • [05:44:34] <doublebeta> But it fucks over those of us who want to make their own hardware.
  • [05:44:38] <Russ> doublebeta, have you done the simulation of a ddr3 memory bus?
  • [05:44:43] <doublebeta> Nope
  • [05:44:52] <Russ> then you don't understand how magical pop is
  • [05:44:53] <doublebeta> I haven't a damn clue what I'm doing
  • [05:44:58] <doublebeta> So I'm doing it to learn
  • [05:45:00] <ds2> POP solves so many engineering problems
  • [05:45:04] <doublebeta> Oh magical indeed
  • [05:45:09] <doublebeta> But evil for a hobbyist
  • [05:45:19] <doublebeta> The kiss of death
  • [05:45:46] <ds2> I'd do POP anyday
  • [05:45:54] <doublebeta> How the hell are conventional PCs all sockets?
  • [05:46:04] <ds2> look what happened to to that non POP bird of prey board ;)
  • [05:46:35] <ds2> how often do you build PC MB's in lots of 1000 at a time?
  • [05:46:36] <doublebeta> If I could generate a public interest in a product I could do a batch run
  • [05:46:42] <doublebeta> and I'd have no problem
  • [05:47:06] <doublebeta> ds2: ...never?
  • [05:47:20] <_av500_> yawn
  • [05:47:31] <doublebeta> hai _av500_
  • [05:48:58] <doublebeta> Perhaps I should just wait a while.
  • [05:48:58] <ds2> POP assemblies in single unit costs isn't that bad considering the PCB costs
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  • [05:49:30] <doublebeta> Harder would be finding a company even willing to rig up their machinery for just one run
  • [05:49:44] <doublebeta> OpenPandora were having trouble with their runs of 4000
  • [05:49:45] <ds2> I can get that done for you
  • [05:49:56] <ds2> just 1 or 1000
  • [05:50:06] <doublebeta> 0_o
  • [05:50:16] <ds2> I had 2 done.
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  • [05:51:34] <doublebeta> There's a huge gap of things I do not yet know. I'll stick to QFP (which I have not yet ever soldered >_<) packages, learn how to make PCBs (oyea not done that ever either), hope to hell toner transfer is good enough for .5mil pitch (lol nope)
  • [05:51:51] <ds2> just have a service make the PCBs
  • [05:51:59] <ds2> why waste time with toner xfer
  • [05:52:12] <doublebeta> Because 2 week turnarounds?
  • [05:52:26] <doublebeta> Plus I'm not in the US; shipping is rather expensive
  • [05:52:32] <doublebeta> but yeaah
  • [05:52:37] <ds2> where are you?
  • [05:52:42] <doublebeta> I don't think toner xfer will cut it
  • [05:52:44] <doublebeta> Australia
  • [05:52:58] <ds2> how's the shipping cost from Malaysia?
  • [05:53:06] <ds2> or Mainland china?
  • [05:53:14] <doublebeta> Uh, china tends to be reasonable
  • [05:53:21] <ds2> lots of vendors there
  • [05:53:47] <_av500_> order it from japan and ask one of the japanese tourists to bring it
  • [05:54:04] <atomicbaum> I would hope it would be cheaper than to the US
  • [05:54:06] <doublebeta> That's a plan
  • [05:54:29] <doublebeta> I wish I had more $. Oh but that is the plight of all of us.
  • [05:55:22] <_av500_> doublebeta: no more money to be had for shootin roos?
  • [05:55:43] <atomicbaum> Hows Australia doing with the whole US Europe market thing?
  • [05:55:45] <doublebeta> Nope?
  • [05:55:53] <doublebeta> Australia is faring quite well
  • [05:57:10] <atomicbaum> I should be investing there then
  • [05:58:13] <doublebeta> Back to synth DIY for me, I believe.
  • [05:58:34] <doublebeta> Embedded's too dang pricy
  • [05:58:42] <doublebeta> Hurp, that did not make much sense
  • [06:01:01] <Russ> even shipping from dorkbotpdx would save you money over toner
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  • [06:01:31] <Russ> flat rate $15 for international mail
  • [06:02:03] <Russ> $5 per square inch for 3 copies (eg, 3 copies of a 4 sq in board is $15 + $15 shipping)
  • [06:02:23] <atomicbaum> Anyone try the beaglebone yet? I was wondering if that or the xm worked with the touchscreen from liquidware?
  • [06:02:30] <Russ> 4 layer is double the cost
  • [06:02:35] <Russ> http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/pcb_order
  • [06:02:40] <ds2> build your own touchscreen
  • [06:02:43] <ds2> it is next to trivial
  • [06:03:04] <atomicbaum> What hardware? I heard PSP screen works well
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  • [06:04:36] <ds2> what hardware? 4.3? 7? 4.8?
  • [06:04:39] <ds2> what size would you like?
  • [06:05:10] <doublebeta> 6 mil trace width ... oh but that is imperial? Hm
  • [06:05:15] <atomicbaum> 4.3 4.8 something smaller.... and cheap. I'm a poor software cs student
  • [06:05:21] <doublebeta> oh that's fine
  • [06:05:25] <ds2> design your own if you want cheap
  • [06:05:37] <ds2> if you want convenient, buy one
  • [06:06:09] <Russ> doublebeta, yes, in the US we are cursed with dealing with imperial tolerances
  • [06:06:29] <ds2> we enjoy the benefits of imperial tolerances
  • [06:06:33] <ds2> where numbers make sense
  • [06:06:41] <Russ> bah, all components are now metric
  • [06:06:51] <ds2> really? 0603 is a metric size? ;)
  • [06:06:55] <Russ> yes
  • [06:07:05] <Russ> that is the imperial name for it
  • [06:07:13] <ds2> okay
  • [06:07:25] <Russ> its a 1608
  • [06:07:30] <doublebeta> Imperial doesn't make a lot of sense.
  • [06:07:35] <ds2> 1608 is a 2W part? :D
  • [06:07:39] <ds2> metric makes no sense
  • [06:07:46] <Russ> 1.6x0.79 mm, aka, 0.063 x 0.031 in
  • [06:07:47] <doublebeta> Multiples of 10
  • [06:07:59] <doublebeta> Easy to interchange and convert
  • [06:08:00] <ds2> I don't care about how many fractions of a wave length. a foot makes sense
  • [06:08:31] <Russ> ds2, it isn't an argument about which system makes more sense, its an argument about the base units of the parts you are designing with
  • [06:09:27] <ds2> Russ: FWIW, resistors don't line on the grids like 0.5mm TSSOPs, etc
  • [06:09:55] <ds2> it is like saying the base unit of a 25.4mm screw is metric
  • [06:10:01] <ds2> rediculous and stupid
  • [06:10:11] <Russ> it isn't, that is an imperial screw
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  • [06:10:26] <Peter_> HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
  • [06:10:30] <Peter_> I have a huge problem
  • [06:10:32] <Russ> but the dimensions can be expressed *exactly* in mm
  • [06:10:43] <Peter_> i installed my Beagleboard with ubuntu
  • [06:10:47] <Peter_> but now when i start it
  • [06:10:48] <ds2> or a 25.4mm rod
  • [06:10:58] <Peter_> it displays mount: mounting /dev on /root/dev failed: no such file or directory mount: mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: no such file or directory mount: mounting /proc on /root/proc failed: no such file or directory Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init. No init fount. Try passing init= bootarg. BusyBox v1.15.3(Ubuntu 1.1.15.3 - 1ubuntu5)built-in shell enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands (initframs).
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  • [06:11:09] <Peter_> I duno what is going on
  • [06:11:25] <Russ> sounds like your initrd is fail
  • [06:11:35] <Peter_> how can i solve it?
  • [06:11:42] <Peter_> what is initrd?
  • [06:11:53] <ds2> silly userland ;)
  • [06:12:02] <Russ> ds2, http://capacitoredge.kemet.com/capedge2/DataSheet?pn=C0603C104K5RACTR
  • [06:12:08] <Russ> please observe kemet datasheet
  • [06:12:54] <Peter_> so is my ubuntu broken?
  • [06:12:58] <Russ> Peter_, you could start by either enabling debug features of the initrd, or by extracting it and looking at the tea leaves
  • [06:13:11] <Peter_> what do u mean
  • [06:13:14] <Peter_> sorry
  • [06:13:17] <Peter_> im lost
  • [06:13:29] <Peter_> it doesnt read anything I type from the keyboard
  • [06:13:31] <ds2> isn't 0603 a ANSI size or something like that?
  • [06:13:41] <ds2> or EIA
  • [06:13:56] <ds2> ubuntu is broken. not just yours ;)
  • [06:14:18] <Peter_> so...am i gonna reinstall?
  • [06:14:24] <atomicbaum> Can't you interface with busybox?
  • [06:14:50] <Russ> ds2, its just the imperial naming for what is actually as 1608. The 1608 naming is exact, the 0603 naming is approximate
  • [06:15:15] <Peter_> damn...
  • [06:16:05] <Russ> Peter_, I'm suprised it doesn't give you a promp
  • [06:16:06] <Russ> t
  • [06:16:20] <Russ> (actually it looks like you do have a prompt)
  • [06:17:25] <Russ> http://blogs.mentor.com/tom-hausherr/blog/2011/03/31/inch-to-metric-conversion-tables-for-pcb-design/ Original EIAJ names vs renamed EIA names
  • [06:18:56] <Peter_> it gave me a prompt
  • [06:18:58] <Peter_> its like
  • [06:19:03] <Peter_> init = bootarg or sth
  • [06:19:06] <Russ> what is under /root?
  • [06:19:22] <Peter_> its sys
  • [06:19:27] <Peter_> like system file or sth
  • [06:19:33] <atomicbaum> uboot prompt?
  • [06:19:44] <Russ> no, its a busybox shell prompt
  • [06:19:48] <Russ> so there is a /root/sys?
  • [06:20:07] <Peter_> yes
  • [06:20:08] <Peter_> i think so
  • [06:20:13] <Russ> you think so?
  • [06:20:15] <Russ> do an ls
  • [06:20:40] <Peter_> i cant right now
  • [06:20:48] <Peter_> its in the booting stage
  • [06:20:57] <Peter_> even if i plug in my keyboard its not responding
  • [06:21:03] <Russ> BusyBox v1.15.3(Ubuntu 1.1.15.3 - 1ubuntu5)built-in shell enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands (initframs).
  • [06:21:12] <Russ> that looks like a shell prompt to me
  • [06:22:10] <Peter_> yea
  • [06:22:28] <Peter_> so is there anyway I can fix this with busybox
  • [06:22:36] <Peter_> i can actually type now
  • [06:22:43] <Russ> so does /root/sys exist or not?
  • [06:27:04] <Peter_> yes it does
  • [06:27:07] <Peter_> it exists
  • [06:27:11] <Russ> what about /sys?
  • [06:27:25] <Peter_> like without root?
  • [06:27:44] <Russ> yes
  • [06:27:58] <Peter_> no it doesnt
  • [06:27:59] <Russ> it looks like it probably doing a mount -o bind or mount -o move
  • [06:28:29] <Peter_> so is there any command line
  • [06:28:34] <Peter_> i can type
  • [06:28:36] <Peter_> to solve this?
  • [06:28:46] <Peter_> or should i go straight to reinstall this thing
  • [06:29:04] <Russ> why would reinstall fix anything?
  • [06:29:14] <Peter_> i duno man
  • [06:29:21] <Peter_> so frustrated
  • [06:29:25] <Russ> did it ever boot?
  • [06:29:34] <Peter_> it boots
  • [06:29:39] <Peter_> but to a certian point
  • [06:29:41] <Peter_> it fails
  • [06:29:52] <Peter_> mount: mounting /dev on /root/dev failed: No such file or directory mount: mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: No such file or directory mount: mounting /proc on /root/proc failed: No such file or directory
  • [06:30:16] <Russ> there are probably failures before that too, like when it fails to mount /dev
  • [06:30:38] <Peter_> yea
  • [06:30:44] <Peter_> like it cant initilize anything
  • [06:31:15] <Russ> it you aren't up to debugging initrd's you might try starting from scratch
  • [06:31:33] <Peter_> how do i debug initrd
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  • [06:32:48] <Russ> by understanding the boot process
  • [06:34:31] <atomicbaum> Did Ubuntu ever work for you?
  • [06:34:39] <Peter_> yea
  • [06:34:40] <Peter_> it did
  • [06:34:47] <Russ> what did you do?
  • [06:34:50] <Russ> to break stuff
  • [06:34:54] <Peter_> i was playing around with GPIOs
  • [06:35:02] <Peter_> just outputting LEDs
  • [06:35:07] <Peter_> nothing much
  • [06:35:11] <Russ> it was probably something you did before that....
  • [06:35:36] <Peter_> I did nothing
  • [06:35:50] <atomicbaum> Sounds like a bad filesytem... I ran into something similar on my lappy a few years back using Ubuntu
  • [06:35:50] <Peter_> sigh
  • [06:35:52] <jay6981> haha
  • [06:35:53] <Russ> something changed the initrd and/or boot args
  • [06:36:06] <Russ> atomicbaum, its the initrd though, if it was corrupt, it wouldn't unpack
  • [06:36:31] <Peter_> i was just putting pins into the GPIOs and like
  • [06:36:38] <Peter_> exporting and unexporting it in the gpio file
  • [06:37:16] <Russ> you followed some step from some site on the internet...
  • [06:37:46] <Peter_> mount: mounting /dev/mmcblk0p2 on /root failed: Invalid argument
  • [06:38:04] <Russ> yikes.
  • [06:38:05] <Peter_> i follow the steps on the BeagleBoard.org.. i think
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  • [06:39:21] <Russ> it sounds like atomicbaum might be right with the bad filesystem thing
  • [06:39:28] <Peter_> basically, i cant find the boot image
  • [06:39:30] <Peter_> or boot file
  • [06:39:41] <Peter_> any suggestion is helpful, thx in advance
  • [06:39:46] <Russ> I don't know what you did...starting over would be a good idea
  • [06:39:51] <atomicbaum> I agree
  • [06:40:14] <jay6981> run fsck
  • [06:40:20] <Russ> heh
  • [06:40:44] <jay6981> i broke my vfat boot partition and fsck fixed it :)
  • [06:41:15] <Russ> Peter_, sure, take out the mmc card, see how bad its f'd up
  • [06:41:31] <Peter_> damn
  • [06:41:33] <Peter_> allright
  • [06:42:43] <Peter_> ok
  • [06:42:50] <Peter_> so i took out the sd card
  • [06:42:56] <Peter_> and now theres nothing on the screen
  • [06:42:58] <Peter_> no booting
  • [06:43:02] <Peter_> although the board is running
  • [06:45:53] <cwillu_at_work> you took out the card while the board was running?
  • [06:46:20] <Peter_> no
  • [06:46:36] <atomicbaum> I usually make a script to reload the OS on to the SD. Makes the process painless.
  • [06:46:49] <Peter_> i see...
  • [06:47:08] <jay6981> of course it's not going to work without the SD card
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  • [07:26:04] <Michael> hi
  • [07:26:09] <Michael> i have a question regarding beagle board
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  • [07:26:29] <Guest1183> i just installed the ubuntu linux following the http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Natty_11.04_2
  • [07:26:43] <Guest1183> i have not installed the GUI yet
  • [07:27:18] <Guest1183> I want to be able to connect to the internet through a USB, Ethernet Adapter but it is not picking up the device
  • [07:27:24] <Guest1183> is there any way for me to do it?
  • [07:27:33] <Guest1183> any advice will be helpful, thank you
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  • [07:35:13] <Michael_123> hi
  • [07:35:24] <Michael_123> i have a question regarding the USB/Ethernet adapter for the beagle board
  • [07:35:50] <Michael_123> I installed the ubuntu linux by the instruction of http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Natty_11.04_2
  • [07:36:02] <Michael_123> but i cannot detect the USB/Ethernet adapter
  • [07:36:23] <Michael_123> I really need help on this, any suggestions or advice is appreciated
  • [07:36:24] <Michael_123> thank you
  • [07:37:40] <kblin> what chipset is the usb ethernet thing?
  • [07:37:51] <Michael_123> it's by Apple
  • [07:37:56] <Michael_123> the macbook air adapter
  • [07:38:13] <kblin> no idea what chipset that is
  • [07:38:20] <kblin> or if it's supported
  • [07:38:37] <Michael_123> it is supported
  • [07:38:45] <Michael_123> i was using the beagleboard with GUI
  • [07:38:48] <Michael_123> and it was supported
  • [07:38:55] <Michael_123> but it crashed so I reinstalled my ubuntu
  • [07:39:04] <Michael_123> and I am trying to see if it can work without installing GUI
  • [07:39:08] <kblin> ah
  • [07:39:11] <Michael_123> or do I must install GUI to make it work?
  • [07:39:49] <kblin> ok, does "ip addr list" list some adapter starting with "eth"?
  • [07:39:55] <Michael_123> let me see
  • [07:40:07] <Michael_123> yes
  • [07:40:09] <Michael_123> it lists usb0
  • [07:40:33] <kblin> I wasn'
  • [07:40:38] <Michael_123> i think it does not have the driver for it
  • [07:40:39] <kblin> t asking for that one, though
  • [07:40:46] <Michael_123> ok
  • [07:40:49] <Michael_123> i see
  • [07:40:51] <kblin> eth0 or the like
  • [07:40:54] <kblin> not usb0
  • [07:40:58] <Michael_123> eth0 and eth1
  • [07:41:17] <Michael_123> eth0 is the default beagleboard ethernet port
  • [07:41:22] <Michael_123> so eth1 should be the adapter
  • [07:41:35] <kblin> oh, you're on an XM
  • [07:41:42] <Michael_123> yes
  • [07:41:44] <Michael_123> i am on XM
  • [07:41:51] <kblin> the beagle doesn't have ethernet, only the xm has
  • [07:42:00] <Michael_123> yes, i am using XM
  • [07:42:02] <kblin> eth0 then
  • [07:42:07] <kblin> er
  • [07:42:08] <kblin> eth1
  • [07:42:19] * kblin is still short on coffee it seems
  • [07:42:57] <kblin> but eth1 is listed?>
  • [07:43:02] <Michael_123> yes
  • [07:43:13] <Michael_123> but it says the state is DOWN
  • [07:43:21] <kblin> ok, then all you need is to assign an IP address without using network manager
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  • [07:43:33] <Michael_123> how can i do that?
  • [07:43:35] <kblin> you do this by editing /etc/network/interfaces and doing the setuo
  • [07:43:39] <Michael_123> i am sorry i am new to this
  • [07:43:40] <kblin> setup...
  • [07:43:55] <Michael_123> how do i do the setup?
  • [07:43:57] <kblin> it's more of a general ubuntu question, arguably
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  • [07:44:06] <Michael_123> ok
  • [07:44:20] <kblin> "man interfaces" explains how to use that file
  • [07:44:20] <Michael_123> i am sorry, because I am really stupid with linux
  • [07:45:36] <kblin> anyway, the setup is pretty straightforward once you know how and what to put into that file
  • [07:45:57] <kblin> then, once you've edited it, service networking restart should bring up eth1
  • [07:46:07] <Michael_123> ok
  • [07:46:13] <Michael_123> how do i do man interface?
  • [07:46:18] <Michael_123> it says no such command
  • [07:46:46] <kblin> you don't have "man" installed?
  • [07:46:54] <Michael_123> i don't...
  • [07:47:08] <Michael_123> i just followed http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Natty_11.04_2
  • [07:47:10] <kblin> check if there's a basic example in the file itself then
  • [07:47:31] <kblin> I haven't read those instructions
  • [07:47:40] <Michael_123> what command should i use to see the file, there is no vim on the machine
  • [07:47:47] <Michael_123> is there a default text reader command?
  • [07:47:48] <kblin> vi ?
  • [07:47:52] <Michael_123> let me see
  • [07:47:59] <Russ> less, more, cat...
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  • [07:48:19] <kblin> ubuntu usually ships a castrated version of vim in the base system
  • [07:48:24] <Michael_123> ok
  • [07:48:27] <Michael_123> i have vi
  • [07:48:33] <Michael_123> i am seeing the file now
  • [07:48:36] <kblin> use that then, or what russ said :)
  • [07:48:51] <Michael_123> thanks :D
  • [07:48:54] <kblin> and once you have networking up, install vim ;)
  • [07:49:10] <Michael_123> so what should i add on to the file @@?
  • [07:49:17] <Michael_123> it has
  • [07:49:22] <Michael_123> auto eth0
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  • [07:49:27] <Michael_123> iface eth0 inet dhcp
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  • [07:49:40] <Michael_123> do i just add iface eth1 inet dhcp?
  • [07:49:48] <kblin> do you have dhcp for the network eth1 is on
  • [07:50:08] <Michael_123> yes
  • [07:50:30] <kblin> then add auto eth1 and iface eth1 inet dhcp
  • [07:50:42] <Michael_123> ok
  • [07:50:53] <Michael_123> i just need to find a way to input on vi...
  • [07:50:55] <Michael_123> i am so noob
  • [07:50:56] <Michael_123> sorry
  • [07:51:28] <kblin> then do... :q! and use nano
  • [07:51:55] <kblin> I assumed you knew vi when you asked for vim
  • [07:52:21] <Michael_123> i know... but the vim command doesn't work on this vi
  • [07:52:24] <Michael_123> for some reason...
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  • [07:52:52] <Michael_123> nano works!
  • [07:52:53] <Michael_123> :D
  • [07:53:02] <kblin> well, I take the file is read only if you didn't start the editor with sudo
  • [07:53:16] <kblin> you need to be root for all this
  • [07:53:26] <Michael_123> yeaa
  • [07:53:29] <Michael_123> im in root
  • [07:54:05] <Michael_123> okkkk
  • [07:54:07] <Michael_123> im done
  • [07:54:12] <Michael_123> i added the line
  • [07:54:15] <Michael_123> i am rebooting now
  • [07:55:45] <Michael_123> it workS!!!!!
  • [07:55:51] <Michael_123> thank you so much!
  • [07:55:54] <Michael_123> you saved ME!
  • [07:55:55] <Michael_123> :DDDDDD
  • [08:06:11] <kblin> great
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  • [08:06:45] <kblin> and the reboot would have been avoided by using "service networking restart".. this is linux, not windows 98 :)
  • [08:09:50] <av500> kblin: win7 kindly asked me to reboot just last night...
  • [08:12:14] <kblin> av500: that probably was the fix for the kernel issue where UDP to a closed port could allow remote code execution :)
  • [08:13:43] <doublebeta> wat.
  • [08:14:25] <doublebeta> Oh man, time to get cracking on a worm if there's a hole that horrid.
  • [08:14:36] <av500> wont help you much
  • [08:15:07] <av500> what percentage of windows PC is on the net and not behind a NAT?
  • [08:15:10] <kblin> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/bulletin/ms11-083
  • [08:15:21] <doublebeta> Oh, granted.
  • [08:15:34] <doublebeta> Until you're on a LAN with some ~300 Windows boxen
  • [08:15:40] <doublebeta> Then some fun can be had.
  • [08:18:08] <Russ> jebus
  • [08:18:31] <Russ> who needs it to be on the net?
  • [08:18:53] <Russ> Get some misbehaving applet to send udp packets to localhost
  • [08:19:44] <doublebeta> Oh, like a java applet on a webpage?
  • [08:19:56] <Russ> right
  • [08:20:07] <doublebeta> ... I'll leave that to you, not for all the CPU power in the world will I write a single line of Java.
  • [08:20:23] <kblin> I really wonder what windows is trying to do with udp packets after they hit a closed port
  • [08:20:33] <doublebeta> Yeah...
  • [08:20:37] <doublebeta> I mean drop em and go
  • [08:20:46] <kblin> accounting, probably
  • [08:20:49] <doublebeta> I suppose...double free?
  • [08:21:09] <av500> kblin: its like a good government office, before throwing something away, make a copy
  • [08:21:10] <Russ> "The vulnerability is caused when the Windows TCP/IP stack processes a continuous flow of specially crafted UDP packets, resulting in an integer overflow."
  • [08:21:15] <kblin> doubt it. hard to do much with a double free other than crashing
  • [08:22:01] <doublebeta> kblin: There have been exploits which gain control of the instruction pointer via double frees.
  • [08:22:25] <doublebeta> I don't know much about those, haven't performed them since they were patched in Linux before I cared
  • [08:22:25] <kblin> ew
  • [08:22:45] <doublebeta> Was really a bug in glibc malloc/free
  • [08:22:53] <kblin> oh, ok
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  • [08:23:12] * kblin tries to avoid working with malloc directly
  • [08:23:15] <doublebeta> Or, more a design flaw I think..eh anyway, not possible anymore (as far as we know)
  • [08:23:33] <av500> kblin: I use malloc_fast() :)
  • [08:23:51] <kblin> most of my C code is for samba, we have our own memory management library there
  • [08:24:18] <kblin> it builds on malloc, usually, but has all sorts of extras that make life much easier
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  • [08:26:46] <kblin> or I do web programming, where the usual apporach is to leak memory until the webserver kills that worker ;)
  • [08:27:10] <doublebeta> sigh. Sad, but apparently true
  • [08:28:15] <kblin> or, in web 2.0, do the leaking on the client, that saves server ressources
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  • [08:29:28] <koen> kblin: talloc?
  • [08:29:45] <kblin> koen: yup
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  • [08:30:38] <JViz> what's the best way of going about making my own beagleboard clone?
  • [08:30:59] <JViz> i would need to get my hands on orcad or altium?
  • [08:31:49] <JViz> is there something i could use that doesn't cost 5g?
  • [08:34:38] <doublebeta> Sigh. Sometimes, i feel that web developers are the reason we can't have nice things.
  • [08:36:11] <kblin> dunno, as a hobby systems developer who currently has to do a lot of web development for his day job, I feel I'm lacking a lot of tools to do a decent job
  • [08:38:00] <kblin> supporting 90% of the operating systems out there is pretty easy compared to making your web app work on 90% of the browsers out there
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  • [08:50:10] <doublebeta> Fuck IE
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  • [08:51:42] <Russ> calm down doublebeta
  • [08:56:55] <doublebeta> ;)
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  • [09:26:32] <koen> kblin: it gets a lot easier if you are allowed to ignore toys (e.g. phone) and internet explorer
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  • [11:45:11] <kapu_> tomorrow tigal starts to ship beaglebones in europe
  • [11:45:49] <kapu_> at least what they say. I wonder do I have any changes to get one in few weeks, if I place my order now?:-)
  • [11:46:59] <kapu_> hmmm maybe I ask them!
  • [11:47:11] <av500> just order
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  • [12:40:51] <kapu_> av500: nah, I'm not in horry, I'll just wait until things calms donw...
  • [12:41:11] <falstaff> kapu_, did you asked?
  • [12:43:07] <kapu_> I'm on "TIGAL Live Chat"
  • [12:43:18] <kapu_> and "Susanna" have no answered yet :-)
  • [12:43:35] <falstaff> :-)
  • [12:43:55] <mru> to those who keep losing their luggage: http://wondermark.com/387/
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  • [13:16:56] <kapu_> Susanna finally answered
  • [13:17:00] <kapu_> hi sorry my screen was not working
  • [13:17:00] <kapu_>
  • [13:17:02] <kapu_> available in CW49
  • [13:17:13] <kapu_> I assume W stands for Week
  • [13:17:19] <kapu_> but what on earth is that C
  • [13:17:39] <kapu_> (Yes, I asked her :-)
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  • [13:21:03] <ant_work> Calendar Week
  • [13:21:39] <kapu_> ah, ok
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  • [13:30:08] <falstaff> thats in december
  • [13:30:21] <falstaff> :_(
  • [13:32:07] <kapu_> but it is not too bad
  • [13:32:48] <mbucko> what type of serial cable would work with the beagle board? is it RS-232 to USB?
  • [13:33:07] <av500> the beagle has a serial port
  • [13:33:19] <kapu_> USB-to-RS232 generally, if you don't have a serial port on yout PC
  • [13:33:22] <mbucko> yh but on the laptop side
  • [13:33:25] <av500> it works with any cable that outputs serial on one end
  • [13:33:33] <mbucko> ok
  • [13:33:34] <av500> mbucko: yes
  • [13:34:13] <mbucko> also does anyone know how to solve this:Starting udev/etc/rcS.d/S03udev: line 50 can't create /tmp/uname: Read-only file system
  • [13:34:49] <mbucko> i found some stuff about changeing some boot options from ro to rw but im not sure where or how
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  • [14:53:01] <bobkatzz> ll
  • [14:53:21] <bobkatzz> morning all < - - - mac keyboard hasn't woken up yet hehe
  • [14:53:57] <bobkatzz> reminds me to look before hitting return
  • [14:54:36] <bobkatzz> koen: got my micro card formatted and set with the new imge you pointed me at
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  • [15:04:26] <snyp3r> attempting a kernel port, stuck at booting the kernel, where should I be looking in the source tree? having trouble identifying the problem area. seem to be going round in circles
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  • [15:15:08] <stelf> ahoi
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  • [15:16:12] <Guest83882> does the camera= parameter on 3.0.8 Angstrom commandline actually do anything?
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  • [15:18:16] <stelf_> i've seen forumposts which say the kernel should at least throw a message
  • [15:18:48] <mbucko> does anyone know how to solve this problem?: Starting udev/etc/rcS.d/S03udev: line 50 can't create /tmp/uname: Read-only file system
  • [15:19:12] <stelf_> but maybe thats outdated
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  • [15:27:45] <stelf_> its still a xm revision c if that matters ;)
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  • [15:49:30] <thurbad> have you tried running e2fsck on that filesystem on a host machine?
  • [15:49:48] <thurbad> err.. n/m he left ~.~
  • [15:50:02] <av500> hell be back
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  • [16:11:35] <av500> wtf is saMmapLoopback
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  • [16:18:02] <reisei> hello! I have some question about beagleboard... I try to setup SDIO wl1271 wi-fi module, but have fail. I know, that this module is working under 2.6.39 kernel, but beagle don't support that... so, what will you suggest?
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  • [16:26:02] <stelf_> ahoi
  • [16:26:42] <stelf_> is the camera= parameter still valid for angstrom 3.0.8 kernel?
  • [16:28:49] <xxiao> anyone has an arm-version mkimage?
  • [16:29:09] <av500> make one :)
  • [16:29:20] <xxiao> want to put mkimage to beagle so people can make boot.scr on the fly
  • [16:29:43] <av500> xxiao: boot.scr is so 2010
  • [16:29:44] <LetoThe2nd> xxiao: shouldn't be too hard. grab the sources from uboot, compile it, done.
  • [16:29:50] <av500> uEnv.txt
  • [16:29:57] <av500> you can vi it
  • [16:29:59] <xxiao> LetoThe2nd: tried that, need a little more than that
  • [16:30:13] <av500> xxiao: there is no need any more for mkimage
  • [16:30:18] <xxiao> uEnv.txt since when?
  • [16:30:23] <av500> since long
  • [16:30:29] <xxiao> my uboot (2010.06?) still uses boot.scr i think
  • [16:30:29] <av500> like 6mo or so
  • [16:30:36] <av500> [17:29:33] <av500> xxiao: boot.scr is so 2010
  • [16:30:53] <av500> you did not get the memo? :)
  • [16:31:00] <xxiao> av500: our _production_ build is still on 2010.06
  • [16:31:10] <ka6sox-away> memo?
  • [16:31:17] <xxiao> co-ask
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  • [16:31:39] <LetoThe2nd> av500: memos are so ...
  • [16:31:58] <av500> xxiao: it was a joke
  • [16:32:06] <ka6sox-away> is that the one you tweeted last night?
  • [16:32:14] <av500> i tweeted?
  • [16:32:25] <av500> I have followers?
  • [16:32:31] <LetoThe2nd> s/tweeted/whistled/
  • [16:32:32] <mru> isn't the past tense "twote"?
  • [16:32:43] <av500> twat
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  • [16:33:30] <ka6sox-away> oy
  • [16:33:35] <ka6sox-away> now I did it.
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  • [16:34:50] <ka6sox-away> note to self...no chatting before coffee.
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  • [16:35:29] <stelf_> so youll tweet then?
  • [16:36:15] <ka6sox-away> before coffee?
  • [16:36:16] <ka6sox-away> no
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  • [16:41:42] * Crofton|work wonders if I could modify an OE recipe to build mkimage for the target
  • [16:41:59] <koen> bitbake u-boot-mkimage
  • [16:42:11] <koen> or even bitbake u-boot if you use the beagle uboot
  • [16:42:32] <koen> we've had native mkimage working years ago on beagle/angstrom
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  • [16:43:52] <av500> koen: you always have to spoil it
  • [16:44:05] <av500> I was just about to open a github
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  • [16:46:46] <rlrosa> hi guys. yesterday i asked about not getting any output on the serial line on a beagle XM. i checked the SD card and stuff, i cannot even see the ASICID from the omap boot rom
  • [16:46:52] <rlrosa> has this happened to anybody?
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  • [16:51:00] <reisei> so, any advices about wl1271?
  • [16:52:08] <stelf_> lsmod
  • [16:52:15] <stelf_> ?
  • [16:52:24] <stelf_> this aint my terminal, is it?
  • [16:52:34] <jay6981> rlosa: i assume you checked the baud rates and such?
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  • [16:53:31] <rlrosa> jay6981: Hi again :) . I did check. anyway, if it were a timing issue, i would expect to at least see garbage...
  • [16:54:09] <jay6981> probably??? any USB/Serial adapters or anything else in the chain left to check?
  • [16:54:57] <rlrosa> loopback on the usb-serial right before the beagle worked fine...
  • [16:55:24] <jay6981> and you're sure the rx/tx pins are wired correctly?
  • [16:56:01] <reisei> :-(
  • [16:56:30] <rlrosa> yes. our adapter was working, and we did not change any connections (we did verify that it is still working)
  • [16:56:56] <jay6981> short of hooking up the tx pin to a scope, sounds like you're out of troubleshooting steps
  • [16:58:04] <jay6981> rlrosa: you tried this without the SD card in the slot?
  • [16:58:15] <rlrosa> ok. thanks for trying. i was hoping somebody had run into this, maybe some oversensitive component that's likely to burn, etc. we have a lab at the university where we can probably borrow a scope for a while.
  • [16:58:18] <rlrosa> jay6981: no
  • [16:58:24] <thurbad> anyone know much about the lcd port settings for bootargs?
  • [16:58:29] <rlrosa> jay6981: i'll try that
  • [16:58:35] <jay6981> try booting without the card to see if you get the ASICID
  • [16:58:47] <jay6981> maybe the card is crashing everything by some off chance
  • [16:58:57] <jay6981> otherwise you may need another board to test with
  • [16:59:03] <rlrosa> that would be really happy.
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  • [17:00:21] <rlrosa> i have another board, we're working on a UAV, the rest of the group is in Uruguay (with the weird board) and i'm in CA, i'll be back in dec. want to take as much from here as i can, we can't get components at home (other that resistors, caps, etc)
  • [17:00:36] <jay6981> sounds fun
  • [17:00:47] <rlrosa> jay6981: i'll try the "no SD card", see if we get lucky
  • [17:00:52] <rlrosa> jay6981: thanks for your help :P)
  • [17:00:57] <rlrosa> :)
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  • [17:02:19] <jay6981> anyone familiar with the OMAP SDRC?
  • [17:02:39] <koen> av500: https://plus.google.com/100242854243155306943/posts/CAWRsKSQGgn
  • [17:02:43] <koen> av500: no cats, sorry
  • [17:02:45] <mru> jay6981: some people are
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  • [17:03:17] <jay6981> i'm confused about the SDRC DLL settings
  • [17:03:33] <mru> what about it?
  • [17:03:38] <jay6981> it says DLL is for write path only but if I don't have it set up a certain way, even reads fail
  • [17:03:53] <mru> so set it that way
  • [17:04:18] <jay6981> sigh??? that does not further my understanding of the issue
  • [17:04:35] <jay6981> trying to avoid the cargo cult mentality here
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  • [17:07:32] <jay6981> the real question is why do reads fail when SDRC_DLLA_CTRL.WRITEDDRCLKX2DIS is set to 0 as the TRM recommends?
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  • [17:09:58] <Crofton|work> gnuradio still has guile directory
  • [17:10:01] <Crofton|work> urg
  • [17:10:04] <Crofton|work> wrong window
  • [17:10:15] <mru> still urg
  • [17:10:31] <mru> jay6981: where do you see that recommendation?
  • [17:10:34] <jay6981> dunno if my last msg got through??? stupid wifi
  • [17:11:12] <jay6981> section 11.2.6.3.3.2
  • [17:11:22] <mru> which trm?
  • [17:11:22] <jay6981> "The recommended configuration is to use the data path using double frequency logic rather than the DLL/CDL write path. This is obtained by setting WRITEDDRCLKX2DIS to 0x0."
  • [17:12:24] <jay6981> spruf98u
  • [17:13:25] <thurbad> mru, do the frame buffer assignments change if you go through the lcd port rather that dvi?
  • [17:13:42] <mru> thurbad: no
  • [17:13:50] <mru> they are wired to the same output pins on the omap
  • [17:13:55] <thurbad> good, thanks
  • [17:14:27] <mru> jay6981: curious... that field has become "reserved" in dm37xx
  • [17:14:56] <jay6981> interesting
  • [17:18:12] <jay6981> i'll check the errata
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  • [17:24:30] <mru> jay6981: that bit is set to 0 on my beagles
  • [17:25:11] <jay6981> good to know??? i must be missing something else??? i'm just confused as to why it affects reads also
  • [17:25:26] <jay6981> can you tell me contents of the entire register?
  • [17:25:36] <mru> 0xa
  • [17:26:13] <jay6981> yeah, that's how i set it???
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  • [17:50:44] <hrishikesh> Hi, I'm having a small problem with regard to running a DC motor with my beagleboard. I have a driver circuit outside the board, with two leads - if there is a voltage difference between these two, then the motor runs. The problem is that there is already 3V coming out from each of these leads, so I am not able to connect it to an 'output port' on the expansion header on my BB. I already blew a BB my connecting it to an "output
  • [17:51:14] <hrishikesh> I bought a new BB, and don't want to blow this one too!
  • [17:54:27] <stelf_> so, nobody knows what happened to the camera commad line argument that used to work on angstrom 2.6.32?
  • [18:07:48] <_av500_> stelf_: ???
  • [18:10:45] <stelf_> on 2.6.32 there was the kernel command line argument camera=
  • [18:11:05] <stelf_> which basically initialized the i2c bus 2
  • [18:11:27] <stelf_> and made the kernel omit a message that there is a camera board
  • [18:11:47] <stelf_> and both doesnt happen on 3.0.8
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  • [18:13:09] <stelf_> so, how do i make my xm rev c open up up that bus nowadays?
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  • [18:28:25] <mbucko> does anyone know how to solve this problem taht occures when the linux is loading?: Starting udev/etc/rcS.d/S03udev: line 50 can't create /tmp/uname: Read-only file syste
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  • [18:31:53] <thurbad> mbucko: have you run e2fsck on that partition in a linux host system?
  • [18:32:30] <thurbad> chances are the partition has some corruption going on
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  • [18:38:38] <mbucko> no
  • [18:38:42] <mbucko> how do i do that?
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  • [18:39:46] <thurbad> for starteers, do you have a linux host system with a card reader?
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  • [18:40:38] <mbucko> yh
  • [18:41:07] <thurbad> ok, just insert the sd into the card reader
  • [18:41:12] <mbucko> yh..
  • [18:41:16] <koen> mbucko: add 'mmcroot=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw' to uEnv.txt
  • [18:41:36] <mbucko> aaah i dont have uEnv.txt
  • [18:41:42] <mbucko> should i create one?
  • [18:41:45] <mbucko> and what is it?
  • [18:41:49] <thurbad> heh, that would do it too
  • [18:42:27] <thurbad> uEnv.txt is the file that replaces boot.scr in newer versions of uboot
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  • [18:42:44] <thurbad> it's a slightly different format as well
  • [18:43:20] <mbucko> so how can i get one?
  • [18:44:06] <thurbad> you write your own, there are probably starter versions for beagleboard out there
  • [18:44:35] <mbucko> also should i have mkcard.txt on the SD card too?
  • [18:44:50] <Viktator> mbucko: no
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  • [18:45:19] <thurbad> won't break anything, butit's not needed
  • [18:45:58] <mbucko> where should it go?
  • [18:46:09] <mbucko> /boot/ ?
  • [18:46:17] <mbucko> or in the boot partition?
  • [18:47:07] <thurbad> uEnv.txt goes in the boot partition
  • [18:47:10] <mbucko> ok
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  • [18:50:28] <slonopotamus> does sound work on beagleboard in linux? if yes, what driver (dsp-link/dsp-bridge/dsp-gateway) is used?
  • [18:50:52] <djlewis_> does on my revC2
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  • [18:58:32] <JViz> what's the cheapest way to make a beagleboard clone?
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  • [19:03:01] <mbucko> my linux freezes while loading.. if I pastebin the minicom messages could someone look at it to see if they could see what is wrong?
  • [19:03:52] <woglinde> sure you used the right console parameter for the kernel cmdline
  • [19:04:26] <mbucko> yh i think so
  • [19:04:46] <mbucko> do you mean console=ttyS2,115200n8 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootdelay=1
  • [19:04:47] <mbucko> ?
  • [19:04:52] <woglinde> yes
  • [19:05:04] <woglinde> whats your kernel?
  • [19:05:43] <mbucko> http://pastebin.com/Fu6Uv5qA
  • [19:05:48] <mbucko> 2.6.32
  • [19:06:15] <jay6981> should't it be ttyO2?
  • [19:06:19] <woglinde> no
  • [19:06:21] <woglinde> its .32 kernel
  • [19:06:26] <woglinde> thats why I asked
  • [19:06:30] <jay6981> k
  • [19:06:56] <woglinde> hm seems it dont likes the sdmak modul
  • [19:07:05] <woglinde> sorry
  • [19:07:10] <woglinde> have no idea at the moment
  • [19:07:24] <woglinde> besides trying newer kernel and rootfs
  • [19:08:04] <mbucko> do you know anywhere where i could get hold of kernel images?
  • [19:08:38] <woglinde> narcissus
  • [19:08:44] <woglinde> or building your self with oe
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  • [19:11:11] <woglinde> http://narcissus.angstrom-distribution.org/
  • [19:12:06] <mbucko> does this build the whole image including all the stuff that goes on p2?
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  • [19:12:14] <woglinde> yes
  • [19:12:27] <woglinde> and even the stuff for part1
  • [19:13:36] <mbucko> well it says its only 36mb big.. the one im using now is about 200mb
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  • [19:13:44] <woglinde> and?
  • [19:14:17] <jay6981> i'd take small and booting over big and not booting any day
  • [19:14:41] <mbucko> ok then
  • [19:14:49] <woglinde> use advanced
  • [19:14:54] <mbucko> btw how would i go about addming more packages on it
  • [19:14:58] <woglinde> and choose the packages you want
  • [19:16:04] <mbucko> i see
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  • [19:21:47] <mbucko> also if i write my program.. how would i sort out the linking so that it crosscompiles and runs on beagleboard
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  • [19:25:10] <woglinde> use the sdk?
  • [19:25:22] <woglinde> or use oe and write a bb file
  • [19:27:42] <mbucko> what sdk? sorry im new to all this
  • [19:28:48] <woglinde> software development kit?
  • [19:29:02] <woglinde> you can get it for your image too from narcissus
  • [19:29:05] <mbucko> i see
  • [19:29:52] <mbucko> btw that stuff from http://narcissus.angstrom-distribution.org/ should i extract it all to partition 2 or is there anything that should go onto the bootable partition
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  • [19:36:48] <woglinde> depends on what you did choose
  • [19:36:58] <woglinde> there is even a whole image for the whole sdcard
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  • [20:21:56] <Viktator> just want to share my joy over that i got my BB to boot finally :)
  • [20:22:25] <Viktator> had to set the env to 'mmcinit' instead of 'mmc init'
  • [20:22:49] <woglinde> uhm
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  • [20:23:13] <woglinde> with the right uboot.env you should not type anything
  • [20:23:17] <woglinde> besides login
  • [20:24:10] <Viktator> well, i had to type to set the right uboot env...?
  • [20:24:28] <woglinde> what beagle did you got?
  • [20:24:34] <Viktator> i got a can't find the Kernel Image fault...
  • [20:24:38] <Viktator> c rev 2
  • [20:24:42] <woglinde> bone, xm or classic?
  • [20:24:48] <Viktator> rev c2 ...
  • [20:24:49] <woglinde> hm with nand
  • [20:24:50] <Viktator> classic
  • [20:24:54] <Viktator> yes with nand
  • [20:26:01] <woglinde> but you are booting from sdcard
  • [20:26:05] <Viktator> i am
  • [20:26:25] <woglinde> than look up how to make a uBoot.env
  • [20:26:35] <woglinde> and put the mmc init there
  • [20:27:13] <Viktator> and what wrong with the way i did it?
  • [20:27:24] <Viktator> what is..
  • [20:27:28] <woglinde> nothing
  • [20:27:32] <woglinde> but as I said
  • [20:27:50] <woglinde> with the env type you are safing some typings
  • [20:28:31] <Viktator> okey, but i only had to type that once. savenv will write it to the nand right?
  • [20:28:54] <woglinde> hm
  • [20:29:09] <woglinde> could be
  • [20:29:18] <woglinde> but I wouldnt mix nand and sdcard stuff
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  • [20:30:14] <koen> isn't sd nand anyway?
  • [20:30:15] <Viktator> ok...well, i more or less just followed the elinux.org beginners wiki. Thats the way they do it
  • [20:30:25] <koen> heh
  • [20:30:33] <koen> is that wiki still as dangerous as it was before?
  • [20:30:42] <koen> telling you to input bogus env and saving it?
  • [20:30:43] <woglinde> *g*
  • [20:30:50] <Viktator> yup
  • [20:30:55] <woglinde> I only fixed categories
  • [20:30:56] <Viktator> i broke it once...
  • [20:31:09] <woglinde> and dead end sites
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  • [20:33:27] <Viktator> so if i dont use the nand, and put all the booting procedure on the SD, i would have to use the user button to change to boot order right?
  • [20:33:36] <woglinde> yes
  • [20:33:50] <Viktator> more convenient now then
  • [20:35:21] <Viktator> one more question, is my usb mouse supposed to work in Angstrom when using the demo image on angstrom-distibution.org?
  • [20:37:19] <woglinde> should work
  • [20:40:21] <Viktator> hmm... im not getting any power from the usb
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  • [20:53:42] <thurbad> the demo image probably has an older kernel in /boot
  • [20:54:07] <woglinde> but usb and evdev should work
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  • [20:54:43] <Viktator> maybe it is just a power issue, that i have to use a hub that is powered externally
  • [20:55:19] <woglinde> first check lsusb
  • [20:55:20] <Viktator> it is like the usb on the bb doesnt feed any power to my mouse or keyboard
  • [20:55:24] <woglinde> second check Xorg.log
  • [20:55:48] <thurbad> try uname -a and make sure it's the kernel you think it is
  • [20:56:23] <thurbad> the newer uboot takes the kernel from /boot/uImage not the boot partition
  • [20:57:24] <Viktator> lsusb gives me nothing extra when i plug in the keyboard
  • [20:57:56] <Viktator> got two devices bus 001 and bus 002
  • [20:58:41] <thurbad> you should have like 5 devices if the hub is up, if I recall
  • [20:58:42] <Viktator> the kernel i use is Linux Beagleboard 2.6.32. #3 PREEMPT
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  • [21:02:32] <djlewis_> i believe the beagle is a revC2
  • [21:02:50] <Viktator> it is
  • [21:03:01] <djlewis_> two main usb dev's will show
  • [21:03:14] <Viktator> great, that is what i got
  • [21:03:51] <djlewis_> the EHCI usb port shoulf have a powered USB hub in it for mouse and kybd
  • [21:03:58] <thurbad> oh, c2, not xM?
  • [21:04:00] <djlewis_> s/shouf/should
  • [21:04:07] <djlewis_> :)
  • [21:04:17] <Viktator> :)
  • [21:04:19] <thurbad> yeah you need a hub for cX boards
  • [21:04:34] <thurbad> unless it's a high speed devicelike a flash drive
  • [21:04:51] <Viktator> okey, i got a hub, just lack cables to power it externally. Thanks for your help guys
  • [21:04:58] <woglinde> yes
  • [21:05:02] <djlewis_> no
  • [21:05:06] <woglinde> I must be powered
  • [21:05:10] <djlewis_> just kidding
  • [21:05:19] <thurbad> it doesn't necessarily need powerfor just the keyboard and mouse
  • [21:05:28] <_av500_> woglinde: power yourself with 240V
  • [21:05:33] <Viktator> ha
  • [21:05:34] <djlewis_> should deliver close to 500mA
  • [21:06:02] <Viktator> my mouse needs 100mA...
  • [21:06:16] <Viktator> and keyboard 350mA
  • [21:06:20] <woglinde> av500 I would be dead
  • [21:06:21] <djlewis_> the hub draws power then its devices do too
  • [21:06:33] <djlewis_> find your walwart
  • [21:06:41] <Viktator> hai
  • [21:06:44] <mbucko> i got angstrom running on my beagleboard but when i type ls or cd it doesnt recognize any commands.. how can i access some interface or a terminal ??
  • [21:07:12] <djlewis_> mbucko: must have by passed the console. .
  • [21:07:31] <djlewis_> didnt read the SRM
  • [21:07:34] <mbucko> there is console but it doesnt recognize ls or cd
  • [21:07:39] <thurbad> is the card still in the board?
  • [21:07:42] <mbucko> whats SRM?
  • [21:07:44] <mbucko> yh
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  • [22:58:32] <mbucko> whats the default login for angstrom linux?
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  • [23:02:47] <Crofton|work> no paswd on root?
  • [23:05:16] <mbucko> yh that works from command line but from the desktop it doesnt work
  • [23:05:49] <Crofton|work> mset a password
  • [23:06:00] <Crofton|work> I think the desktop login won't accept an empty pw
  • [23:06:17] <mbucko> how do i set the password?
  • [23:07:19] <Crofton|work> passwd
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  • [23:08:07] <mbucko> ok thanks
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  • [23:19:48] <mindThomas> Anyone who have a good guide to getting started with Qt for the Beagleboard
  • [23:20:14] <mindThomas> currently I have been trying for quite a while to get the SDK generated by Narcissus (qt/embedded) to work on Ubuntu
  • [23:20:25] <mindThomas> but I have problems compiling some of my programs
  • [23:21:39] <mindThomas> I have got the example from the bottom of this page compiled, after a lot of struggling with installing new qt4 qmake: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/
  • [23:22:10] <mindThomas> But I want to try compiling this one: http://blog.galemin.com/2011/03/how-to-build-sample-program-for-capturing-image-from-camera-opencv-and-qt/
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