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  • [05:54:17] <emeb_mac> a longtailed cat in a roomful of rocking chairs
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  • [06:01:35] <emeb_mac> doing a steve balmer impression?
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  • [06:16:16] <Guest62043> av500, Hi. using mplayer, i can play a video file on fb0, but on fb1, and i am getting this error: The selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec. Try appending the scale filter to your filter list, e.g. -vf spp,scale instead of -vf spp. Could not find matching colorspace - retrying with -vf scale... Opening video filter: [scale] any idea about this?
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  • [06:22:06] <av500> Guest62043: other than looking at mplayer source code, no
  • [06:22:24] <Guest62043> ok
  • [06:22:56] <av500> the nice thing about open source is that the source is open
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  • [06:24:38] <Guest62043> yes, i will go through the source code
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  • [06:28:04] <doublebeta> love the way you worded that, av :)
  • [06:38:38] <Guest62043> need suggestion on another thing if any idea, i can play on /dev/fb0, and on /dev/fb1 there are no errors, mplayer log is exactly like that of working case /dev/fb0, but not seeing video..when does that happen?
  • [06:39:09] <doublebeta> something about fb1 not being enabled?
  • [06:40:01] <Guest62043> are you telling about, in driver?
  • [06:56:48] <av500> check sysfs
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  • [07:23:36] <Russ__> bah, jerks need to stop taking my nick
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  • [09:28:56] <mru> hmm, u-boot mailing list has a problem...
  • [09:29:19] <av500> a problem called uboot?
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  • [09:45:24] <doublebeta> av500: why do you hate uboot so much?
  • [09:45:32] <av500> do I?
  • [09:45:52] <doublebeta> well, you seem to be
  • [09:46:56] <av500> why?
  • [09:50:38] <doublebeta> 20:29 < av500> a problem called uboot?
  • [09:50:51] <doublebeta> I'm just curious as to why you hate it.
  • [09:50:54] <doublebeta> * seem to
  • [09:51:02] <doublebeta> It's ok that you do, everyone hates something
  • [09:52:06] <Guest12143> what are source and destination trasparency color keys?
  • [09:53:14] <mru> they are exactly that
  • [09:54:12] <Guest12143> what do source and destination mean here?
  • [09:54:28] <mru> same as everywhere
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  • [09:55:41] <Guest12143> can you please give an example, how they are used? source and destination trasparency color keys??
  • [09:56:04] <mru> is google down again?
  • [09:57:20] <doublebeta> mru: HE.net's lines are being DDoSed with IPs from china
  • [09:57:34] <doublebeta> so anyone using HE's links won't get access to many sites
  • [09:57:48] <doublebeta> source of info: #frantech/irc.dairc.net
  • [09:57:59] <mru> doublebeta: I guess you're not in on all the running jokes here
  • [09:58:06] <doublebeta> OH.
  • [09:58:12] <av500> OH.net too?
  • [09:58:19] <mru> doublebeta: fyi, that means "you obviously did not bother googling it"
  • [09:58:25] <doublebeta> Hey, some people were reporting they couldn't get to google :P
  • [09:58:28] <av500> or TRMing it
  • [09:58:31] <doublebeta> No, I see that now.
  • [10:00:05] <doublebeta> Speaking of TRMs, I got interrupts working ^_^. Turns out you can change the base address, as per the Cortex-A8 TRM. DM37x trm seems to have no mention of this :<.
  • [10:00:34] <mru> the omap trm defers to the arm manuals for such details
  • [10:00:41] <av500> TRM assumes ARM
  • [10:00:47] <doublebeta> so if I ask a question, please someone yell at me to ratfm. (read all the fucking manuals)
  • [10:01:40] <doublebeta> mru: the psuedocode specifies PC = 0x00000018. That looks pretty damn fixed. I'm not trying to start a flamewar and I'll drop it now
  • [10:02:30] <mru> that's the normal reset vector
  • [10:02:48] <doublebeta> well yeah ;)
  • [10:03:48] <doublebeta> Do you guys use focus medication? I keep forgetting critical info...
  • [10:04:15] * av500 does not focus on medication
  • [10:04:19] <doublebeta> Lol
  • [10:04:32] <mru> the vector base address is set in cp15 c12
  • [10:04:36] <doublebeta> Yes.
  • [10:04:42] <mru> and it's 0 at reset
  • [10:04:44] <doublebeta> Which I read later all like 'zomg, want'
  • [10:04:51] <doublebeta> and so I set it and now it all works.
  • [10:04:57] <doublebeta> happy db.
  • [10:05:15] <doublebeta> Now to wrap my head around the MMU. this is just me not being able to focus, the mmu docs aren't too bad.
  • [10:05:45] <av500> start with a flat 1:1 mapping of all the sdram
  • [10:06:42] <doublebeta> I did that; I just did it wrong. iirc I have my second level descriptors in order - that's quote obviously never gonna work.
  • [10:07:04] <av500> you can map 32x16MB all just in the 32 TLBs IIRC
  • [10:07:33] <mru> av500: you mean to manually program the tlb and lock it down?
  • [10:07:37] <doublebeta> yeah, I'm gonna nuke my MMU code and start over.
  • [10:07:51] <doublebeta> For TTB1, I shouldn't need 4k granularity anyway.
  • [10:08:09] <doublebeta> Only for the application virt should I need that. TTB0.
  • [10:08:34] <mru> you can program the tlb directly using cp15 c15 registers
  • [10:08:37] <av500> mru: I think thats what we did in the past on arm9s before using linux
  • [10:08:41] <av500> sec
  • [10:08:56] <doublebeta> static programming of the TLB? ok...
  • [10:09:11] <mru> doublebeta: it could get you started
  • [10:10:52] <mru> if you have trouble getting the page tables in the right format, you could program the tlb manually from the fault interrupt handler
  • [10:12:34] <doublebeta> Mm, that'd get messier than the page tables in the end. For the OS one, I'll map it using supersections, statically. For the user virts, I'll figure out paging. Maybe use 64k granularity like RISC OS does(did)
  • [10:12:37] <av500> mru: we wrote to some table in sdram, the address of that table was MCR p15, #0, R0, c2, c0, #0
  • [10:12:42] <av500> in r0
  • [10:12:56] <mru> that's using the hw table walking
  • [10:13:00] <av500> comment says: write TTBR
  • [10:13:10] <mru> translation table base register
  • [10:13:17] <mru> cortex-a8 has two of those
  • [10:13:24] <mru> one for low addresses, one for high
  • [10:13:25] <av500> yeah, so we setup our flat mapping there
  • [10:13:28] <mru> configurable split
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  • [10:13:56] <mru> saves some work if you map the kernel in high addresses
  • [10:14:13] <doublebeta> eeeeehhh. I must have read something wrong to have missed that.
  • [10:14:16] <dm8tbr> av500: you called? ;)
  • [10:14:21] <av500> woz?
  • [10:14:26] <doublebeta> oh man, I'd be lost without two monitors.
  • [10:14:40] <mru> +1
  • [10:14:48] <dm8tbr> av500: TBR hilights
  • [10:14:59] <mru> and no, a single larger monitor would not do
  • [10:15:17] <doublebeta> I just wish the second one was bigger. 1024*768 doesn't cut it with all the damn PDFs I have open ^_^
  • [10:15:31] <mru> that's tiny
  • [10:15:45] * mru has one 1920x1200 and one 2048x1152
  • [10:15:51] <doublebeta> granted it was a large upgrade from the 640*480 only CRT.
  • [10:16:09] * doublebeta has one 1600*900, and one 1024*768
  • [10:16:26] <mru> I still have an unused output on one of the gfx cards, should get a third monitor...
  • [10:16:33] <doublebeta> hah!
  • [10:16:36] <av500> mru: what is the 2048 one?
  • [10:16:44] * doublebeta has really sad hardware...
  • [10:16:46] <mru> av500: a cheap samsung tft
  • [10:16:54] <av500> strange res
  • [10:17:00] <mru> yeah, a bit unusual
  • [10:17:14] <mru> don't remember why I got it
  • [10:17:21] <doublebeta> 2048, fuck yes.
  • [10:17:37] <mru> I don't think you can get them any more
  • [10:17:53] <doublebeta> two pdfs side by side at the same res as mine are. That'd rule.
  • [10:18:12] <av500> just print the TRM....
  • [10:18:33] <doublebeta> ha, what? tell me where I can print 10k pages.
  • [10:18:36] <doublebeta> TYVM, love you.
  • [10:18:47] <doublebeta> * cheaply
  • [10:19:04] <doublebeta> it'd be cheaper to get a new monitor than to print the crap
  • [10:19:19] <av500> well, dont print all :)
  • [10:19:36] <doublebeta> heh, but then I'd need exactly what I didn't print ^_^
  • [10:19:52] <av500> and first and foremost, dont let people on irc distract you all the time
  • [10:20:06] <av500> doublebeta: like just now
  • [10:20:10] <doublebeta> That's why I banned myself from my home channel last night. It got interrupts working.
  • [10:22:23] <doublebeta> Are you two working on anything in particular atm?
  • [10:25:00] <doublebeta> how would one map his kernel high without crashing because the instruction pointer still pointed low? Do you write the MMU twice, or something? i.e. a trampoline that jumps into later-valid code?
  • [10:25:51] <doublebeta> actually there's an x86 article on osdev.org. I'll go check that.
  • [10:26:08] <mru> when enabling the mmu, a few instructions following the actual enable instruction are still fetched from the unmapped location
  • [10:26:19] <mru> it's all in the manuals
  • [10:26:31] <mru> you enable the mmu and quickly jump to the new location
  • [10:26:36] <doublebeta> ahhh
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  • [10:41:37] <doublebeta> Onboard SRAM would be faster than the external RAM, right? I'm thinking about moving my interrupt handlers there.
  • [10:42:18] <mru> only if they drop out of the cache
  • [10:42:58] <doublebeta> hm? you mean, only if the SRAM isn't cached? I'm not sure what you mean.
  • [10:43:39] <mru> no, I mean it could be faster if your interrupt handlers get pushed out of cache by something else
  • [10:43:45] <mru> which may or may not happen
  • [10:43:55] <doublebeta> Oh, I see what you mean.
  • [10:44:06] <doublebeta> Well if they're on the other side of the RAM, they probably wouldn't be in the cache.
  • [10:44:20] <mru> other side?
  • [10:45:05] <doublebeta> sure, if I'm running at 0x9F000000 (phys), and the ISRs are at 0x80003000 (phys)...
  • [10:45:35] <mru> what difference would that make?
  • [10:46:23] <doublebeta> the cache wouldn't know to load the memory. Especially if it was an external interrupt. Or perhaps I'm completely lost.
  • [10:46:34] <doublebeta> it'd want to load the program it's currently running, no?
  • [10:46:48] <mru> if you've taken the same interrupt recently, the handler will be in the L1 instruction cache
  • [10:46:58] <mru> and if not there, probably the L2 cache
  • [10:47:07] <doublebeta> well yeah, if it's a common interrupt.
  • [10:47:21] <mru> and if it's uncommon, is it that critical?
  • [10:47:27] <doublebeta> I suppose not.
  • [10:47:30] <mru> do you have real-time constraints?
  • [10:47:38] <doublebeta> I must admit, no.
  • [10:47:51] <doublebeta> I'll leave it until I've got everything set up.
  • [10:47:56] <mru> if you have tight real-time constraints you're often better off without caches
  • [10:48:10] <mru> or with critical parts permanently locked in caches
  • [10:48:18] <doublebeta> Is that so you can have simpler cycle counting? how can a cache slow stuff?
  • [10:48:30] <mru> it can't
  • [10:48:39] <mru> but it makes things hard to predict
  • [10:48:46] <doublebeta> ah.
  • [10:48:58] <mru> if your system has to work in the worst case, you might as well always be there
  • [10:49:31] <doublebeta> always be where? in SRAM?
  • [10:49:36] <doublebeta> sorry
  • [10:49:46] <mru> always operate under worst-case conditions
  • [10:49:52] <mru> i.e. no cache
  • [10:49:59] <doublebeta> OH, I see.
  • [10:50:22] <mru> realtime systems often have a manually managed L1 sram
  • [10:50:34] <mru> the dsp in the omap for example has that
  • [10:50:46] <mru> it can be configured as cache or ram
  • [10:51:09] <mru> in such a system, you'd typically put critical interrupt handlers in non-cache L1 ram
  • [10:51:49] <doublebeta> ah.
  • [10:52:14] <doublebeta> I went looking for a TRM specific to the DSP, with full usage information...was I not looking hard enough, or is it still largely closed?
  • [10:52:32] <mru> it's all open
  • [10:52:37] <mru> well, almost all
  • [10:53:15] <doublebeta> the DSP is basically another processor, correct? i.e. if you bought a DSP, you'd get a uC that is math geared, so it is the same thing?
  • [10:53:25] <doublebeta> (inside the omap silicon of course)
  • [10:53:41] <mru> the dsp is a separate processor, yes
  • [10:53:48] <mru> with its own caches
  • [10:53:53] <mru> sits on the same L3 bus
  • [10:54:03] <mru> has its own mmu too
  • [10:54:30] <doublebeta> the iva2.2 mmu that I erroneously tried to program as the ARM mmu... heh.
  • [10:54:38] <mru> yeag
  • [10:54:40] <mru> h
  • [10:54:46] <mru> the page table format is almost the same though
  • [10:54:50] <doublebeta> yeah
  • [10:54:55] <hitlin37> those who like to shoot and print. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CLfNIZ4LNo&feature=player_embedded&noredirect=1#!
  • [10:54:58] <mru> the arm one uses a few bits the dsp one doesn't
  • [10:55:06] <doublebeta> I was wondering about that, they seemed similar.
  • [10:56:34] <mru> if you want info on the dsp, look for docs spru732 and spru871
  • [10:56:41] <Guest12143> how to see more debug statements of dss in angstrom kernel?
  • [10:56:53] <mru> add more printk
  • [10:57:21] <doublebeta> btw, should one NOT use the Load/Store multiple instructions for 1 register? I used them like that a few times because it automatically increments a register, so I saw no downside.
  • [10:57:37] <mru> you can do writeback with ldr/str too
  • [10:57:41] <mru> rtfm :)
  • [10:58:01] <doublebeta> oh, shit
  • [10:58:08] <mru> ldr r0, [r1], #4 ~= ldm r1!, {r0}
  • [10:58:50] <doublebeta> ~= more or less equals, not bitwise inversion, rite ^_^
  • [11:02:28] <doublebeta> btw, do you mean 'ldr r0,[r1!]'? I'm just checking, perhaps I'm missing something, but wouldn't that just read the word pointed by r1 and leave it alone? Or is that what the #4 does?
  • [11:02:49] <mru> no, that's not valid syntax
  • [11:02:58] <mru> really, rtfm
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  • [11:07:55] <doublebeta> LDR<c> <Rt>,[<Rn>+/-<Rm>{, <shift>}] {!}. #4 is specified where {!} is. I suppose that means 'write back address + 4 bytes'?
  • [11:08:17] <doublebeta> I'm trying to RTFM but I can't find a definition for !. It seems to mean writeback, from what I've seen of ldm
  • [11:08:18] <Guest12143> mru, i added, but i am not seeing them on board
  • [11:09:06] <doublebeta> Aha. Now I did find it.
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  • [11:09:11] <mru> doublebeta: look at the LDR (immediate) entry
  • [11:09:32] <mru> the ! is for pre-indexed with writeback
  • [11:10:34] <doublebeta> Yes, but until I read the ldm definition for !, I couldn't be sure ! didn't mean something else. All good now, thanks again mru :)
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  • [11:10:56] <doublebeta> wback = TRUE is there.
  • [11:11:01] <smalltext> hi people!
  • [11:11:08] <doublebeta> hiya smalltext!
  • [11:11:12] <smalltext> :)
  • [11:11:14] <mru> HI SMALLTEXT
  • [11:11:18] <smalltext> lol
  • [11:11:20] <doublebeta> make sure it's not too small to read!
  • [11:11:39] <doublebeta> that'd be mru, using BIGTEXT to call smalltext ;)
  • [11:13:52] <smalltext> I got Android running on a BBXM rev C but the eth interface isn't up, so I netcf eth0 up and then netcfg eth0 dhcp but DNS is broken
  • [11:15:10] <doublebeta> make your own resolv.conf
  • [11:15:16] <doublebeta> /etc/resolv.conf
  • [11:15:31] <smalltext> Ok thanks Linux version 2.6.38.7-g5b2e099 (jenkins-build@ip-10-38-117-147) (gcc version 4.5.4 20110526 (prerelease) (Linaro GCC 4.5-2011.06-0) ) #1 Wed Jun 29 04:18:02 UTC 2011
  • [11:15:33] <doublebeta> (unless it changed on embedded, lol.That's how it is in debian, at least)
  • [11:16:09] <smalltext> Is it related to this init: cannot execve('/system/etc/init.omap3.sh'): Permission denied
  • [11:17:54] <doublebeta> no, but you can fix that by chmodding that script +x
  • [11:18:01] <doublebeta> IF that script is supposed to run.
  • [11:18:19] <doublebeta> But Istrongly doubt that's anything to do with it.
  • [11:18:22] <doublebeta> Try and read that script
  • [11:18:33] <smalltext> tried chmod +x /system/etc/init.omap3.sh but it returns ---> Bad mode
  • [11:18:43] <doublebeta> hm. ls -l it
  • [11:18:53] <doublebeta> hopefully you've read the script to see if the comments say anything about it.
  • [11:19:36] <smalltext> -rw-r--r-- root root 388 2011-10-03 04:02 init.omap3.sh
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  • [11:19:56] <doublebeta> odd. What filesystem is in use?
  • [11:20:07] * mru would not trust a script written at 4am
  • [11:20:11] <doublebeta> HAH
  • [11:20:40] <doublebeta> is there a nightshift at ARM? That'd sure suit some programmers.
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  • [11:20:58] * doublebeta finds it hard to code when there's, yknow, sunlight.
  • [11:21:17] <mru> it's allowed to be in the cambridge office at any time
  • [11:21:28] <mru> some of the smaller offices shut at night
  • [11:21:34] <smalltext> I have no idea, I just build the SD card from linaro
  • [11:22:01] <doublebeta> make a habit of reading any config files/scripts that fail
  • [11:22:01] <smalltext> ext3
  • [11:22:10] <doublebeta> hmm, very odd. Are you root?
  • [11:22:26] <mru> it would say permission denied if not
  • [11:22:41] <smalltext> lol hang on
  • [11:23:06] <mru> make sure you're not using some weird unicode +-like character
  • [11:23:18] <doublebeta> ah, that's possible... good thinking
  • [11:23:29] <mru> did you copy&paste from some blog?
  • [11:24:09] <smalltext> nah just shift and equals
  • [11:24:17] <smalltext> su didn't work
  • [11:24:20] <smalltext> same error
  • [11:24:28] <smalltext> Bad mode
  • [11:24:44] <doublebeta> unless /system is a weird filesystem, idk.
  • [11:24:49] <doublebeta> cat /etc/fstab and have a look
  • [11:25:08] <doublebeta> oh, perhaps /system/etc
  • [11:25:27] <av500> not on android
  • [11:25:27] <doublebeta> tbh I've never used android, I'm doing this based on Debian experience
  • [11:25:46] <smalltext> cat /etyeah no worries I've got little linux experience
  • [11:25:56] <smalltext> got an invalid length error
  • [11:26:04] <doublebeta> wat.
  • [11:26:24] <doublebeta> connect your SD up to a computer and fsck it.
  • [11:27:08] <smalltext> found it
  • [11:27:35] <smalltext> chmod 700 /system/etc/init.omap3.sh Read-only file system
  • [11:27:45] <smalltext> unable to chmod
  • [11:27:58] <doublebeta> that explains things.
  • [11:28:19] <av500> http://lists.linaro.org/pipermail/linaro-dev/2011-February/002523.html
  • [11:28:21] <doublebeta> can you remount rw?
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  • [11:28:30] <doublebeta> oh, try that link
  • [11:28:35] <doublebeta> first
  • [11:29:31] <av500> smalltext: since linaro cooked that up, you might want to ask in #linaro
  • [11:29:33] <smalltext> I think this is where the execute bit got zeroed.
  • [11:30:49] <smalltext> I edited the script to include netcfg eth0 up and netcfg eth0 dhcp (no sleep) because I'm on an XM board and a straight netcfg command returns lo and eth0 interface
  • [11:31:15] <smalltext> ok thanks for the help I will try over there
  • [11:32:24] <Guest12143> DBG("omapfb_probe\n"); in drivers/video/omap2/omapfb/omapfb-main.c in probe function and CONFIG_FB_OMAP2_DEBUG_SUPPORT is enabled in .config in angstrom build package, still i am not seeing these DBG messages when kernel is loading, what could be the reason? i could not find it out.
  • [11:33:08] <av500> DBG does what?
  • [11:34:40] <tomba> Guest12143: you probably need to give loglevel=9 kernel parameter to see the debug messages
  • [11:35:37] <Guest12143> DBG is printing few debug statements..loglevel=9 when do i need to give exactly? while compiling virtual/kernel?
  • [11:35:56] <av500> #define DBG(format, ...) \
  • [11:35:57] <tomba> no, as kernel boot parameter in your bootloader
  • [11:36:00] <av500> if (omapfb_debug) \
  • [11:36:04] <av500> printk(KERN_DEBUG "OMAPFB: " format, ## __VA_ARGS__)
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  • [11:36:20] <tomba> and yes, that also =) omapfb.debug=y
  • [11:36:25] <av500> so omapfb_debug needs to be enabled
  • [11:36:34] <tomba> he didn't like the answer
  • [11:36:42] <av500> he will be back
  • [11:36:43] <mru> scary macros...
  • [11:36:53] <mru> frightened him away
  • [11:37:05] <av500> yeah
  • [11:37:39] <doublebeta> He needs to look at some glibc source for a while.
  • [11:37:45] <doublebeta> That ought to toughen him up.
  • [11:38:07] <doublebeta> (ugly defines yo)
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  • [11:40:19] <mru> hmm, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Miss_Muffet doesn't mention any coming back
  • [11:40:40] <doublebeta> the fuck, mru?
  • [11:41:07] <mru> spiders, macros... it's all the same
  • [11:41:09] <Guest54960> tomba, do i need to give loglevel=9 in bootargs?
  • [11:41:27] <av500> dmesg -n 9
  • [11:41:52] <tomba> Guest54960: if you want to see the debug messages during boot. and also omapfb.debug=y to enable omapfb debug prints
  • [11:42:07] <av500> Guest54960: what happened to your cool nick?
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  • [11:42:52] <mru> av500: you blew his cover!
  • [11:42:59] <Guest54960> av500, i am not comfortable using that now for few reasons..i do have it, and can use it.
  • [11:43:53] <av500> talking to random Guests is tedious
  • [11:43:59] <Guest54960> tomba, omapfb.debug=y is not added in my bootargs, i will add it and see but adding loglevel=9 alone did not help to see debug messages
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  • [11:44:00] <doublebeta> feeling more like LilTooDumb3 instead?
  • [11:44:09] <mru> av500: we know who "they" are
  • [11:44:11] <doublebeta> (not insult, just a joke)
  • [11:44:26] <av500> mru: of course we know *it*
  • [11:46:14] <Guest54960> tomba, seeing debug messages with debug=y and loglevel=9 in bootargs..thank you
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  • [11:47:19] <tomba> Guest54960: no problem! where can I send the bill?
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  • [11:48:04] <Guest54960> dont know
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  • [11:48:36] <av500> tomba: here: http://vayavyalabs.com/
  • [11:50:10] <Guest54960> av500, not in that now..
  • [11:50:25] <av500> Guest54960: they can still pay :)
  • [11:51:04] <tomba> they have a facebook link on their page, so yes, they should pay
  • [11:51:05] <Guest54960> i dont know about them, but i can give him a treat
  • [12:00:36] <doublebeta> Maybe I should move the entire operating system into SRAM. Then I can map the entire 512MB to the user. Bitches LOVE a full 512MB!
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  • [12:38:11] <Guest54960> av500, i am using fbdev to see video on fb1, as for now speed is not that important, mplayer -nosound -vo fbdev:/dev/fb1 and omapfb is not taking dev/fb1 in this format...any idea why i do not see a window, either angstrom demo image or the one built like from build angstrom, only if i give /dev/fb0 i see a vido window, any idea?
  • [12:38:24] <Guest54960> or any other way to play a video on vid1 window and see?
  • [12:41:49] <av500> define "is not taking"
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  • [12:46:29] <Guest54960> [omapfb] unknown suboptions: /dev/fb0 error from mplayer
  • [12:48:55] <Guest54960> http://pastebin.com/LRKHHuAG
  • [12:49:12] <Guest54960> mplayer -nosound -vo omapfb test.mp4, this plays video fine
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  • [13:00:01] <Guest54960> how to get internet on beagle? i got USB to ethernet and connected but no network yet
  • [13:00:21] <doublebeta> dmesg to see if device was detected.
  • [13:02:11] <doublebeta> shit, night all. I _think_ i'm doing my supersections right (I'm doing walking, 1:1). But something isn't configured right. Presumably TTB0
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  • [13:12:32] <Guest54960> lsusb does not list my USB to ethernet device, what do i need to do extra with angstrom demo image, to get internet?
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  • [13:25:19] <hitlin37> av500,the latest ota for g8 is of 160mb....that means it replaces the complete image .so,imgdiff is not used in these cases?
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  • [13:41:49] <daniele> hi guys i've some problem with a custom lcd video
  • [13:43:43] <daniele> the BB is the xM rev C and I bought a board with a TI integrate (bb-lvds.blogspot.com).. i have already configured the right resolution modifing the boot.cmd but I can't found anything about move the video 2 row down..
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  • [13:47:41] <av500> daniele: move what where?
  • [13:48:03] <daniele> have i to change some vsync?
  • [13:48:13] <av500> daniele: move what where?
  • [13:48:37] <daniele> i can't see the first two row.. it's out of the display
  • [13:49:28] <daniele> i tried to insert the upper and hsync parameter
  • [13:50:35] <av500> what do you configure in boot.cmd?
  • [13:52:57] <daniele> http://pastebin.com/SfjLbsGg before enter here I tried to put also a hsync paratmeter after dvi...
  • [13:59:41] <av500> that will put DVI timings
  • [13:59:47] <av500> you need timings for your LCD
  • [14:02:11] <daniele> about what? vsync?
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  • [14:03:06] <av500> all the timings
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  • [14:03:31] <av500> look into your LCD datasheet
  • [14:03:36] <av500> it will list timings
  • [14:04:34] <daniele> yes i found the timing specification.. there's any how to that show and example of configuration?
  • [14:05:05] <daniele> there's a lot of data..
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  • [14:06:31] <av500> linux/drivers/video/omap2/displays/
  • [14:06:40] <av500> has a lot of panels and timings
  • [14:07:01] <av500> for a start, you could set your timings via sysfs
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  • [14:07:27] <av500> cat /sys/devices/platform/omapdss/display0/timings
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  • [14:09:10] <daniele> it show me some data but no reference.. :\
  • [14:09:37] <av500> ?
  • [14:10:19] <daniele> 28800,800/80/48/32,480/3/6/7 i don't know what they are without name :\ too noob!
  • [14:10:35] <av500> read the dss docs
  • [14:11:17] <daniele> ok thanks :)
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  • [14:20:26] <daniele> what's the pixel clock? there isn't on the lcd datasheet..
  • [14:20:37] <av500> should be
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  • [14:25:36] <daniele> i'm quite sure there's a sheet with frequency, period, high time and low time under clock..
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  • [15:21:36] <thurbad> narcissus seems to give me angstrom 2010.7 and a lot of the packages are outdated.. is this correct?
  • [15:21:49] <Crofton|work> select next
  • [15:22:11] <thurbad> even though it says that that is broken?
  • [15:22:19] <Crofton|work> sure
  • [15:22:26] <Crofton|work> try it
  • [15:22:34] <thurbad> ok
  • [15:22:42] <thurbad> orth a try I suppose
  • [15:24:41] <Crofton|work> yep
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  • [15:35:19] <NotTooDumb3> thurbad, did you any time specifically use Vid1 window to play video on?
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  • [15:36:57] <thurbad> no windows, I'm running from the console
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  • [15:38:30] <NotTooDumb3> what do you run from console? dont you use lcd or tv to see dss output?
  • [15:39:31] <thurbad> I'm using a modified version omapfbplay, output to dvi
  • [15:39:59] <av500> NotTooDumb3: vid1 is not a window, its an overlays
  • [15:40:02] <av500> -s
  • [15:41:00] <NotTooDumb3> ya overlay is something, we can play video on right? like GFX is also a overlay..
  • [15:42:54] <av500> indeed
  • [15:45:25] <thurbad> 'next' doesn't seem to want to boot all the way
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  • [15:49:27] <NotTooDumb3> are n't video overlay and video window terms interchaneable? are thy not same?
  • [15:50:54] <thurbad> and 8 minutes later I start getting out of memory errors from the kernel
  • [15:52:26] <NotTooDumb3> thurbad, any idea for you, on which overlay you see video on your output display device?
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  • [15:54:57] <thurbad> so, selecting 2011.3 actually gives 2010.7 next is unbootable,, and core-egilbc is missing some packages I need :/
  • [15:55:34] <thurbad> video runs on fb1 for me
  • [15:55:51] <NotTooDumb3> how? that is really good
  • [15:56:45] <thurbad> download the omapfbplay source and check how mru did it
  • [15:57:18] <NotTooDumb3> ok
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  • [16:04:14] <Russ> heh, si-list email, "As EM waves have electric field and magnetic field and as we know that electric field is due to the motion of electrons and require some conducting medium.But I am confused that how EM wave propagate through space. what happens to the electric and magnetic field?"
  • [16:05:31] * Russ "Can anyone please explain the EM wave movement in free space rather than going into equations. It is very easy to quote Maxwell's equations & complex
  • [16:05:32] <Russ> mathematical derivations to explain but physically how does the
  • [16:05:32] <Russ> wave propagate as we know that for electric field to exist there should be a charge and free space has no charge!!!"
  • [16:05:32] <Crofton|work> they are carried by the ether
  • [16:05:56] <Russ> I know, I have a book that explained it all to me
  • [16:06:00] <Russ> matter, ether, and motion
  • [16:06:14] <Russ> http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/31428
  • [16:06:20] <muriani> the ether!
  • [16:06:46] <Russ> I'm very temped to post an exert
  • [16:06:54] <muriani> There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge.
  • [16:07:02] <NotTooDumb3> is it adviced to get omapfbplay source from https://github.com/robclark/omapfbplay and cross compile it if i do not have internet connection to my board
  • [16:07:19] <Russ> but both the people asking questions have a poor command of the english language and EM, so I fear the joke would be lost
  • [16:09:55] <av500> NotTooDumb3: overlays is a hardware feature of the omap3
  • [16:10:20] <av500> a "window" is something that your window manager or UI might or might not have
  • [16:11:25] <NotTooDumb3> ok so when window is not there, will the video played on any overlay, still get displayed?
  • [16:17:44] <av500> koen: a TI chip labeled XTNETW1351
  • [16:17:49] <av500> koen: what does it do?
  • [16:18:25] <av500> something wireless
  • [16:19:06] <NotTooDumb3> av500, broadly i understood diff b/w video window and video overlay, it is overlay some of the video processing like scaling etc., are done in h/w
  • [16:19:44] <av500> no
  • [16:19:55] <av500> in that context window and overlays are interchangeable
  • [16:20:25] <av500> but then a video window does not have to match 1:1 to an X11 "window"
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  • [16:21:19] <NotTooDumb3> ok..i know a bit about x11 window, we can write any kind of data to that window, need not be a video at all
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  • [16:22:22] <NotTooDumb3> in what way, window and overlay differ? though overlay is a hardware feature
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  • [16:25:52] <av500> you can have 3 "overlays" in omap3, but many hundred windows
  • [16:25:56] <av500> in x11
  • [16:26:12] <av500> anyway, dont let me confuse you
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  • [18:14:56] <av500> mru: ping
  • [18:15:18] <mru> pong
  • [18:15:28] <av500> mru: beyond a certain threshold, libc does malloc via mmap and not the heap
  • [18:15:41] <av500> is there a way to add more mem to a such malloced buffer
  • [18:15:46] <thurbad> when you install a bug package, does it include source, or just symbols?
  • [18:15:47] <av500> without allocing a larger one and copy
  • [18:15:58] <av500> thurbad: you install bugs?
  • [18:16:12] <thurbad> debug
  • [18:16:16] <thurbad> lol
  • [18:16:27] <av500> thurbad: no src
  • [18:17:18] <thurbad> :(
  • [18:17:19] <NotTooDumb3> av500, mru, do you have any suggestions for me about playing video on vid1 overlay with angstrom demo image?
  • [18:17:26] <mru> av500: mmap can do it if the following virt space is free
  • [18:17:45] <mru> no idea if glibc malloc does that
  • [18:17:53] <av500> mru: mmap would be fine
  • [18:18:01] <av500> I guess is MAP_ANON, no?
  • [18:18:04] <av500> it's
  • [18:18:07] <mru> if you care, you're doing it wrong
  • [18:18:28] <mru> MAP_FIXED too
  • [18:18:58] <av500> mru: you mean to do a 2nd mmap with the end addr of the 1st one as start?
  • [18:19:27] <mru> check mremap too
  • [18:19:51] <av500> ah right
  • [18:19:58] <mru> I don't remember all details
  • [18:20:05] <av500> ill find out
  • [18:20:11] <av500> I missed the SEE ALSO :)
  • [18:20:27] <mru> and you'll probably need something non-posix
  • [18:21:21] <av500> I am fine with that
  • [18:24:36] <av500> why does mallopt() have no man?
  • [18:26:17] <av500> what is the equivalent of openCV for audio?
  • [18:26:42] <NotTooDumb3> mru, heard that you have written omapfbplay, can i play video on any fb like /dev/fb0 /dev/fb1 etc using omapfbplay,or mplayer?
  • [18:28:43] <av500> why would you play video on fb0?
  • [18:28:52] <av500> that would force you to convert it to RGB, why do that?
  • [18:29:40] <NotTooDumb3> because playing on fb1, did not work for me..
  • [18:29:46] <av500> yes, we know that
  • [18:29:51] <av500> you keep stating that all the time
  • [18:30:03] <av500> so finally go and find out why
  • [18:30:29] <av500> there is code to read, error messages to be googled and printfs to be added
  • [18:32:35] <NotTooDumb3> ok..code to read, driver's code or application code? i do not see any error messages,player's log shows it as playing
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  • [18:34:11] <av500> then find out why you dont see it
  • [18:34:56] <av500> enable dss debug
  • [18:35:04] <av500> etc..
  • [18:35:12] <av500> you should see the overlay being setup
  • [18:35:56] <NotTooDumb3> ok, 2 clues i got till now are codecs are not appropriate if i try to play on fb1 or colorspace mismatch, though sometimes i see these error messages and some times not..
  • [18:36:21] <NotTooDumb3> ok i will check if overlay is being setup properly or not..
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  • [18:38:59] <av500> you can also put a printf right into mplayer to see if it is pushing updates to fb1
  • [18:40:37] <NotTooDumb3> ok
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  • [18:44:06] <NotTooDumb3> and av500 are drivers of kernel, supposed to work irrespective whatever uboot we use?
  • [18:44:53] <av500> hopefully
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  • [18:45:03] <av500> but some stuff is done only in uboot
  • [18:45:45] <av500> so sometimes kernel needs certain uboot
  • [18:45:51] <av500> its not nice, but its like that
  • [18:46:03] <av500> usually having the newest uboot helps
  • [18:46:31] <NotTooDumb3> ok..thank you..
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  • [21:18:39] <djlewis> set a vco on 137.1oMHZ and while the sine was attenuated, freq was good.
  • [21:27:35] <emeb> djlewis: score!
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  • [21:43:41] <emeb> I'm with ya - wouldn't want to brick the 'scope.
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