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  • [00:52:14] <borillion> Guys where can I get the pin spacings for the beagleboard xM main header?
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  • [00:56:19] <djlewis> isnt that in the BBSRM?
  • [00:56:34] <djlewis> along with matching connector part numbers
  • [00:57:36] <borillion> I dunno I will look thanks
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  • [02:12:16] <ds2> if it is being asked, it can't possibly be in the BBSRM
  • [02:12:27] <ds2> afterall, there is no useful information in there
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  • [02:16:04] <pancake> is anyone around?
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  • [02:17:09] <Pancakes> woah daurnimator, are you the same daurnimator im friends with on steam
  • [02:21:44] <thurbad> always people semi-around
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  • [02:26:57] <emeb> strange optimization issues w/ gcc 4.5.2
  • [02:27:28] <emeb> (for ARM of course)
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  • [03:19:48] <Pancakes> hmm i've got a wall power to USB adaptor which says it puts out 1A
  • [03:20:05] <Pancakes> however when I power the beagleboard over USB it seems the usb towers dont work
  • [03:20:18] <Pancakes> u-boot says it cant find usb0 and the usb LED isnt on
  • [03:35:39] <thurbad> which board?
  • [03:48:37] <ds2> what rev?
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  • [04:26:47] <thurbad> this illegal instruction thing is driving me crazy
  • [04:27:01] <thurbad> not sure where it's coming from
  • [04:27:07] <ds2> get the instruction laws repealed? :D
  • [04:27:18] <thurbad> ~.~
  • [04:27:32] <ds2> kernel or userspace?
  • [04:27:40] <thurbad> userspace
  • [04:27:59] <ds2> that should be trivial... it tells you what address and process name
  • [04:28:19] <thurbad> nope
  • [04:28:28] <ds2> nope on which part?
  • [04:28:31] <Russ> pastebin it
  • [04:28:58] <thurbad> justs ays "illegal instruction" and the app terminates
  • [04:29:07] <ds2> so you know the app
  • [04:29:11] <thurbad> or is it logged somewhere?
  • [04:29:12] <ds2> what kind of userland?
  • [04:29:30] <ds2> it can be :D
  • [04:29:33] <Russ> what, no gdb?
  • [04:29:34] <ds2> or you can run it in GDB
  • [04:29:43] <ds2> or you can setup a jtag debugger
  • [04:29:57] <thurbad> gdb stops at semi random spots
  • [04:30:01] <ds2> but then I am a fan of montecarlo debugging :D
  • [04:30:11] <ds2> sure memory is sane?
  • [04:30:23] <thurbad> remove the command that it says the illegal instruction occurred at, and it just moves somewhereelse
  • [04:30:39] <thurbad> no, I'm not sure at this point
  • [04:30:41] <ds2> oh and what kernel?
  • [04:30:42] <Russ> well, what assembly is at your breakpoint?
  • [04:31:24] <thurbad> 2.6.32 but it's been modified
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  • [04:33:21] <ds2> PSP or stock?
  • [04:33:43] <thurbad> psp
  • [04:33:48] <ds2> HMMMMM
  • [04:34:00] <ds2> thumb/neon usage?
  • [04:34:48] <thurbad> definitely some neon, but I'm not getting to the neon portion of the code
  • [04:35:03] <Nexxy> does anyone have a recommendation for a compatible usb ethernet device?
  • [04:35:27] <thurbad> wired or wireless?
  • [04:35:37] <ds2> do you have neon and thumb support enabled in the kernel?
  • [04:35:58] <Nexxy> thurbad, wired
  • [04:36:23] <thurbad> it should be, the app was running fine a week ago, but I've been working on it
  • [04:37:08] <thurbad> although we did turn on bluetooth about the time it stopped working, maybe I should try the previous kernel?
  • [04:37:38] <thurbad> dunno if there's a correlation there, or conicidence
  • [04:38:12] <thurbad> I'll try anything now
  • [04:38:27] <Russ> what is the instruction it dies on?
  • [04:38:43] <thurbad> ftime.. sometimes
  • [04:39:01] <Russ> ftime isn't an ARM instruction
  • [04:39:05] <thurbad> nope
  • [04:39:26] <thurbad> it's a c function
  • [04:39:33] <Russ> so what instruction does it die on?
  • [04:40:20] <thurbad> don't have gdb enabled here at the moment
  • [04:40:25] <Russ> ah
  • [04:40:53] <thurbad> I have it set up for remote debugging at work
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  • [04:46:17] <ds2> what kind of userland is this?
  • [04:46:31] <ds2> uClibc? bionic? dalvik? glibc? eglibc? other?
  • [04:47:37] <thurbad> glibc, I believe
  • [04:47:50] <thurbad> it's angstrom based
  • [04:49:45] <ds2> thought angstrom went away from glibc?
  • [04:51:08] <thurbad> when? I started working with this copy about a year ago
  • [04:51:11] <ds2> I'd run a memory test just in case
  • [04:51:32] <ds2> donno, check with someone else
  • [04:51:57] <thurbad> how do you test the app memory? is valgrind working for arm now?
  • [04:52:06] <ds2> no, test all of memory
  • [04:52:09] <thurbad> oris there another test that you suggest?
  • [04:52:13] <thurbad> oh.. ok
  • [04:52:31] <ds2> random corruptions would have that effect
  • [04:52:48] <Russ> valgrind doesn't test memory
  • [04:52:56] <ds2> unless you ran into an errata
  • [04:53:03] <Russ> a lot of bootloaders have basic memory test algorithms
  • [04:53:29] <ds2> but this is an TI ARM part, right?
  • [04:54:18] <thurbad> yeah, it's omap 3530 based
  • [04:55:03] <ds2> is it multithreaded?
  • [04:55:32] <thurbad> yes
  • [04:56:10] <ds2> in that case, check to see if all your calls are re-entrant
  • [04:58:07] <ds2> oh and check the PC when it blows up
  • [04:58:15] <ds2> if PC % 4 != 0, you have problems
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  • [05:08:31] <thurbad> so,would non-reentrant code cause illegal instructions, or just give bad values
  • [05:10:43] <ds2> depends... if it causes a stack corruption and that gets pop'ed into the PC...
  • [05:12:03] <ds2> mixing libraries indiscriminately could also be another cause
  • [05:12:31] <Pancakes> oh dear i went afk
  • [05:12:35] <Pancakes> its beagleboard-xm revision c
  • [05:12:37] <thurbad> that's probably not it then, I'm not reaching the point where threads start spawning
  • [05:13:06] <thurbad> Pancakes: do you have a patched kernel for revC ?
  • [05:13:10] <Pancakes> yep
  • [05:13:16] <Pancakes> works fine over normal power
  • [05:13:21] <Pancakes> just over usb power it doesnt work
  • [05:13:31] <Pancakes> and im pretty sure its getting enough current since it doesnt come up with any kernel panic errors or anything
  • [05:13:46] <ds2> USB power is generally limited to 100mA
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  • [05:15:47] <Pancakes> its not in this case
  • [05:15:56] <Pancakes> i've got it plugged into a wall adaptor which apparently does 1000ma
  • [05:16:19] <helpme> hi..i got a BB xm
  • [05:16:33] <helpme> what will be given in SD card provided with it?
  • [05:16:45] <helpme> i dont have a display monitor
  • [05:16:54] <thurbad> are you trying to power the board with otg? where's the adapter going to?
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  • [05:17:08] <Pancakes> im powering the beagleboard with OTG
  • [05:17:17] <Pancakes> its an adapter which plugs into the wall and offers a USB port
  • [05:17:27] <thurbad> helpme: pretty much just a validation OS
  • [05:17:32] <helpme> i powered BB with 5v supply and connected it to laptop using serial to usb converter
  • [05:17:46] <helpme> and inserted the SD card given
  • [05:17:59] <helpme> but my ubuntu doesn't detect BB
  • [05:18:18] <ds2> again, I say - the power available via USB is generally limited.
  • [05:18:18] <thurbad> otg power... that's pretty dicey post 2.6.29
  • [05:18:19] <helpme> can someone help me
  • [05:18:22] <ds2> Please do a power budget analysis.
  • [05:18:36] <Pancakes> really?
  • [05:18:49] <Pancakes> i thought the only limitation was the amount of power provided by the computer
  • [05:19:03] <Pancakes> and if i've got it plugged into a 1A wall outlet...
  • [05:19:18] <thurbad> helpme: where do you expect it to show up?
  • [05:19:32] <helpme> minicom
  • [05:19:38] <helpme> in ubuntu
  • [05:19:42] <thurbad> get a barrel connector Pancakes
  • [05:20:01] <thurbad> and what are you using for the port settings?
  • [05:20:01] <Pancakes> is the OTG port on the beagleboard limited
  • [05:21:11] <thurbad> my only experience with powering a beagle post 2.6.39 was crashes while loading the kernel
  • [05:21:21] <thurbad> err, 2.6.29
  • [05:21:22] <helpme> thurbad:port is not geting detected there
  • [05:21:50] <thurbad> helpme: you have to change the settings in minicom
  • [05:22:17] <helpme> thurbad :its says tty8
  • [05:22:22] <helpme> rather than usb0
  • [05:22:33] <thurbad> helpme your serial to usb connector is probably /dev/ttyUSB0
  • [05:23:01] <helpme> ya..but in minicom it doesn't show up
  • [05:23:36] <thurbad> did you change the port settings to /dev/ttyUSB0 manually?
  • [05:23:55] <helpme> thurbad:i tried to edit it manually but it doesn't get saved
  • [05:24:30] <helpme> wen i pres ESC default value gets set
  • [05:24:39] <helpme> tty8
  • [05:24:48] <thurbad> yeah, that's the wrong port
  • [05:25:16] <thurbad> start with minicom -s
  • [05:25:21] <helpme> thurbad:how to change it??
  • [05:25:28] <helpme> ok then
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  • [05:26:00] <thurbad> then go to serial port setup
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  • [05:26:24] <thurbad> change a to /dev/ttyUSB0
  • [05:26:32] <thurbad> and f to no
  • [05:26:40] <thurbad> then hit esc
  • [05:27:10] <thurbad> then select exit, not exit from minicom
  • [05:27:28] <helpme> thurbad:ya i tried it ..when i press ESC ttyUSB0 gets changed to tty8
  • [05:27:51] <thurbad> it shouldn't
  • [05:28:26] <helpme> its getting:(
  • [05:28:37] <helpme> is there any kind of lock??
  • [05:28:42] <thurbad> doesn't for me on any minicom install I've used to date
  • [05:29:47] <helpme> i just tried it again same result..
  • [05:30:41] <thurbad> are you hitting enter or esc after setting a?
  • [05:31:19] <helpme> ESC
  • [05:31:31] <thurbad> modify a, hit enter, modify f press esc
  • [05:33:13] <helpme> thurbad: thanks it worked:)
  • [05:33:25] <thurbad> n/p
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  • [05:48:45] <thurbad> dangit, the illegal instruction problem appears to be linking against code I thought was stable
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  • [06:27:13] <thurbad> think I just found my illegal instruction problem... the code I linked against had a variable named ftime
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  • [06:30:35] <thurbad> yup, that was it
  • [06:33:32] <thurbad> explains why it died sometimes on the ftime function too
  • [06:35:20] <Russ> yikes
  • [06:35:42] <Russ> suppose a backtrace would have told you something is up
  • [06:37:25] <thurbad> maybe, the stacktrace didn't go inside the function as it would have normally if there was something wrong with the function itself
  • [06:37:46] <thurbad> that probably should have tipped me that something was wonky there
  • [06:39:35] <thurbad> so probably it was trying to jump to the address of the variable as a function call when I invoked it as a function
  • [06:41:51] <thurbad> not sure why the linker didn't report a conflict
  • [06:42:59] <Russ> maybe the glibc was marked weak?
  • [06:43:11] <toobluesc> eglibc ftw
  • [06:45:42] <Russ> (the ftime declaration, not the whole library)
  • [07:00:40] <Pancakes> that's weird
  • [07:01:03] <Pancakes> when i power it via a normal barrel connector i just get the d14 USB tower LED, none of the others are illuminated
  • [07:01:15] <Pancakes> powering via USB get's all the others but not the D14
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  • [07:12:50] <Russ> ah, I love it when 10^288 A runs through my ngspice circuit
  • [07:13:34] <ds2> is that library with ftime linked statically?
  • [07:14:05] <ds2> Russ: trying the corner the world's supply of copper? :D
  • [07:14:26] <Russ> I dunno, I don't think I have enough, because ngspice gives up at that point
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  • [07:16:05] <ds2> so the plan is to make this an exo-planet project?
  • [07:16:27] <Russ> dunno, I need to find the feedback loop
  • [07:16:36] <Russ> something in the circuit is causing one
  • [07:16:45] <Russ> probably a power clamp or ground clamp
  • [07:17:08] <ds2> heh
  • [07:17:34] <Russ> I have inductors on the power pins and ground pins, so any increase in current will cause the voltage across them to change
  • [07:17:45] <Russ> ...which is probably causing an increase in current somehow
  • [07:18:03] <ds2> maybe an infinitely sharp spike?
  • [07:18:10] <ds2> like step voltage changes?
  • [07:18:21] <Russ> I've tried to iron all those out
  • [07:18:41] <Russ> but with inductors and piece wise linear stuff, its hard to get everything "right"
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  • [07:28:15] <ds2> Russ: on a different topic... is AZDOT doing construction on the freeways and closing them?
  • [07:28:24] <Russ> every weekend
  • [07:28:33] <ds2> just weekends?
  • [07:28:36] <Russ> (except holiday weekends)
  • [07:28:43] <Russ> in the metro area, yes
  • [07:28:55] <Russ> http://www.azdot.gov/ccpartnerships/news/closures/index.asp
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  • [08:32:51] <Russ> oi
  • [08:32:53] <Russ> I think I see it
  • [08:33:07] <Russ> there is a pullup current source and a pulldown current source
  • [08:33:59] <Russ> when the model is on, the pullup is active, when it is off, the pulldown is active
  • [08:34:24] <Russ> during switching, there is a time based multiplier for each
  • [08:34:58] <Russ> due to miller capacitance, right before switching starts, it pushes the output the opposite way...which means a negative multiplier
  • [08:35:09] <Russ> negative multiplier allows for a feedback loop
  • [08:35:12] <Russ> (I think)
  • [08:36:24] <ds2> wouldn't putting in a resistor fix it? i.e. make that a non ideal source
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  • [08:38:29] <Russ> well part of the problem is that with the piece wise linear models extend out from their endpoints with whatever slope the last segment had
  • [08:38:34] <Russ> allowing for a runaway feedback loop
  • [08:38:46] <Russ> I think if I just cut that off, I can avoid the feedback loop
  • [08:42:26] <Russ> bah
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  • [09:06:18] <Russ> and I really hate it when you have two separate, unconnected circuits that somehow effect eachother
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  • [09:07:51] <Russ> probably because the second circuit cuts down the step size, which breaks the first circuit...
  • [09:13:01] <Russ> yup, the breakage is happening on the order of femtoseconds
  • [09:13:13] <Russ> er...pico
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  • [13:27:51] <travalas> i'm trying to get xM's onboard ethernet up on natty, what is the driver for that?
  • [13:28:39] <thurbad> smsc95xx
  • [13:34:04] <travalas> does that control usb as well
  • [13:34:08] <travalas> ?
  • [13:34:45] <thurbad> yes
  • [13:35:18] <thurbad> the ethernet is actually off the usb
  • [13:35:36] <thurbad> so it will probably come up as usb0
  • [13:35:59] <travalas> is there any dependancies?
  • [13:36:55] <thurbad> not sure,if you're building in the kernel it's considered a usb network device I believe
  • [13:37:24] <travalas> it inserts ok, but doesn't seem to come up for some reason
  • [13:37:36] <thurbad> does the usb come up?
  • [13:37:49] <travalas> i'm not sure it does
  • [13:38:13] <thurbad> do you have a rev C Xm?
  • [13:38:30] <travalas> that's what the box says, how can I verify?
  • [13:38:34] <travalas> lsusb shows Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
  • [13:38:58] <thurbad> yeah, that's the omap hub
  • [13:39:49] <thurbad> do you have a kernel thats patched to support rev C? they switched the polarity of the usb power in rev C
  • [13:40:35] <thurbad> lsusb should show like 5 devices (2 are hubs) when it's working
  • [13:41:55] <travalas> I put in a patched kernel according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAPHeadlessInstall
  • [13:42:33] <travalas> i assume that's what the patch was for
  • [13:44:09] <thurbad> probably, so you copied uImage to the boot partition? and the vmlimuz file /boot directory of the sd card's rootfs?
  • [13:45:08] <travalas> that's correct
  • [13:46:46] <thurbad> hmm, not sure then.. don't have a rev C or ubuntu on my beagle
  • [13:49:02] <travalas> what do you use?
  • [13:49:17] <thurbad> angstrom on a rev B
  • [13:50:16] <travalas> why do you like angstrom?
  • [13:50:45] <thurbad> mostly, it does get the job done most of the time
  • [13:51:41] <thurbad> but I mostly just use the console
  • [13:53:42] <travalas> ok??? if the board was under powered do you think that might cause things to not come up properly?
  • [13:57:02] <thurbad> possible, what's your power supply
  • [13:57:48] <thurbad> if it's 5V and at least 1A that's probably not the problem
  • [13:58:44] <travalas> i'm running off usb
  • [13:59:09] <thurbad> oh, not a barrel connector?
  • [13:59:19] <travalas> the otg connector
  • [13:59:38] <thurbad> ah, surprised you're able to even boot :P
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  • [14:00:29] <travalas> :)
  • [14:00:43] <travalas> ok looks like I need to go make up a power supply
  • [14:01:35] <thurbad> I would suggest 2A or so if you're going to power usb devices
  • [14:02:43] <damjan> I'm running it off my HTC phone charger, it says 1A
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  • [14:07:38] <travalas> ok
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  • [14:23:40] <travalas> well i grabbed a 3a lab power supply??? still no dice. there's a little sticker that says C on my beagle board, that means it's rev c right?
  • [14:25:36] <thurbad> yes
  • [14:25:58] <thurbad> also when it boots if you have a serial connector it should say the rev
  • [14:39:12] <travalas> looks like's in dmesg: OMAP3 Beagle Rev: xM C
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  • [14:58:44] <travalas> i just tried the default angstrom distribution that comes with the beagle board, any idea what the default username and password is?
  • [15:00:08] <travalas> heh root
  • [15:00:09] <travalas> no password
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  • [15:10:08] <thurbad> yup root with no p/w :P
  • [15:11:54] <travalas> what's the preferred package manager angstrom?
  • [15:12:02] <travalas> for angstrom?
  • [15:12:11] <travalas> i can't type
  • [15:13:13] <thurbad> opkg
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  • [15:13:35] <thurbad> do opkg update first
  • [15:14:02] <thurbad> if you have networking working
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  • [15:16:23] <travalas> yeah i got it working via my nexus one's usb tethering :)
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  • [15:18:51] <thurbad> nice.. htc patched tethering out of m inspire :/
  • [15:19:03] <thurbad> my inspire :
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  • [16:12:02] <joelagnel> Anyone know what's the status of the upstreaming effort for omap spl?
  • [16:12:09] <joelagnel> Is this dated? http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/U-boot_Upstreaming_Project#X-loader_up-streaming.28SPL.29_-_OMAP4
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  • [16:52:38] <travalas> anybody using usb-modeswitch?
  • [16:53:01] <travalas> seems likes the package on angstrom is broken
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  • [18:56:34] <bobkatzz> koen: ping
  • [18:58:00] <bobkatzz> _jkridner_: pang
  • [19:00:11] <bobkatzz> just got my new BB xM - will be hooking that up to SDR receiver and posibbly - ala http://w4mq.com/
  • [19:00:33] <bobkatzz> take a look and have fun!
  • [19:00:43] <bobkatzz> over and out
  • [19:01:15] <bobkatzz> I am on Linkd-In Beagleboard Group as well - RT
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  • [19:10:24] <pianosam> Just got a beagleboard xM. Not sure whether to use Angstrom or just OE. What does Angstrom add to OE?
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  • [19:21:28] <Crofton> Angstrom is built with OE
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  • [21:06:11] <djlewis> sakoman: ping
  • [21:06:19] <sakoman> pong
  • [21:06:34] <djlewis> hi, how ya doing?
  • [21:06:46] <sakoman> good, how about you?
  • [21:07:00] <djlewis> i cant seem to get any audio thru my beagle
  • [21:08:53] <djlewis> ok, just got mplayer source -ao oss
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  • [21:09:26] <djlewis> alsamixer offers default and omap3beagle devices
  • [21:09:40] <djlewis> trying to get line in and line out going
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  • [21:11:57] <sakoman> djlewis: just tried playing a dvd on my beagle xm from a usb dvd drive and I get sound with no problem
  • [21:12:18] <sakoman> don't use oss, use -ao alsa
  • [21:12:19] <djlewis> showoff ;P
  • [21:12:27] <djlewis> that failed
  • [21:12:37] <sakoman> then you broke something ;-)
  • [21:12:41] <djlewis> lol
  • [21:12:47] <sakoman> failed in what way?
  • [21:13:27] <djlewis> failed to initialixe audio driver 'alsa'
  • [21:13:48] <djlewis> mplayer fails with all but oss
  • [21:14:13] <sakoman> I didn't do anything special, just used a virgin GNOME r13 image and ran gnome-mplayer
  • [21:14:28] <sakoman> it plays mp3's just fine too
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  • [21:15:06] <sakoman> sounds like something is broken in your image
  • [21:17:42] <djlewis> yeah, gnome-mplayer only works with oss as well.
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  • [21:20:32] <sakoman> djlewis: I have no idea what is up with your system! OSS hasn't worked for me in quite a few kernel releases
  • [21:20:55] * _av500_ just put back OSS support is his player last week
  • [21:21:18] <sakoman> it has played audio in slo-mo for me for the past several kernel releases
  • [21:21:41] <sakoman> the API's are depracated so I haven't worried about it
  • [21:21:50] <_av500_> haven't tested on arm yet :)
  • [21:21:53] <sakoman> can't spell today
  • [21:22:13] <djlewis> 2.6.36 Sun Mar 6 21:12:27 PST
  • [21:22:29] <djlewis> yeah it is playing audio slow here too
  • [21:23:52] <sakoman> alsa should work unless you did something to break it :-)
  • [21:24:19] <sakoman> did you mess with levels/enables in alsamixer
  • [21:24:41] <djlewis> yeah i raised every one
  • [21:27:34] <sakoman> perhaps try restoring the controls to their default state
  • [21:27:55] <sakoman> http://www.sakoman.com/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=openembedded.git;a=blob_plain;f=recipes/alsa/alsa-state/omap3-multi/asound.state;hb=refs/heads/gnome-r12
  • [21:28:27] <sakoman> that's what /etc/asound.state should look like after boot
  • [21:29:52] <sakoman> you won't be able to just edit that file on your beagle, because the system writes the current values to that file when you shut down and they are restored at next boot
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  • [21:32:02] <sakoman> so you could edit that file on the sd card on your dev machine
  • [21:32:22] <sakoman> or use alsamixer to set each value
  • [21:32:23] <djlewis> scrolling mine against your for a few they look same. need to do a file compare
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  • [21:35:52] <sakoman> djlewis: remember that file relects what the values were at boot!
  • [21:36:22] <djlewis> oh the joy :)
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  • [21:36:43] <sakoman> if you used alsamixer your settings won't match the file until you shutdown or do alsactl store 0
  • [21:37:18] <djlewis> thanks, I'll keep pounding at it with my hard head :)
  • [21:37:53] <sakoman> just put your sd card in your dev machine and edit it there :-)
  • [21:38:29] <sakoman> copy, paste, back to beagle, reboot, done
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