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  • [02:30:38] <djlewis> darn internet movie watchers are eating my bw again
  • [02:31:05] <mru> stop stealing your neighbour's wifi and you won't have that problem
  • [02:31:14] <djlewis> ha
  • [02:32:03] <djlewis> darn, this amd 4 core computer is louder and puts out far more heat than the dual
  • [02:32:17] <mru> oh really?
  • [02:32:34] <djlewis> like, whatcha expect dude..
  • [02:32:50] <djlewis> mostly dissapointed in the fan noise
  • [02:33:09] <mru> water cooling ftw
  • [02:33:18] <djlewis> scares me
  • [02:33:32] <mru> nice and quiet
  • [02:33:44] <djlewis> water cooled automobiles are one thing. electronics another
  • [02:33:56] <mru> it's water, not nitrogen
  • [02:34:37] <djlewis> spring a leak and the electrons get all lost amongst one another
  • [02:34:52] <mru> nah
  • [02:35:17] <djlewis> I do have a water cooler system I never used.
  • [02:35:22] <djlewis> was for another project
  • [02:35:32] <mru> there's enough metal there that thermal shutdown has a decent chance to kick in if needed
  • [02:35:35] <djlewis> would need the cpu sink for it
  • [02:36:22] <mru> and you should use deionised water
  • [02:36:36] <mru> a few spilled drops won't do any harm
  • [02:36:46] <djlewis> i have something like radiator fluid that came with it.
  • [02:36:53] <djlewis> It was designed for computers
  • [02:37:12] <mru> that's usually some anti-corrosive stuff you're supposed to mix with water
  • [02:37:20] <djlewis> has a big radiator/fan, pump etc
  • [02:37:23] <mru> deionised water, that is
  • [02:37:29] <mru> same as you'd put in a car battery
  • [02:37:34] <mru> sold in any service station
  • [02:38:18] <djlewis> as the other project never happened, perhaps then. . .
  • [02:38:58] <djlewis> I had to hack a intel 4-wire fan onto my amd cooler.
  • [02:39:30] <mru> fan hacks don't scare me
  • [02:40:08] <djlewis> but it runs almost wide open with linux up
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  • [02:58:13] <ds2> but but brine cool so much better :D
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  • [03:06:16] <ds2> hmmm
  • [03:10:12] <ZeZu> I'm about to hackmulate a damn intel fan onto one of the pandaboards chips :|
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  • [03:13:34] <djlewis> not so cool then, huh?
  • [03:14:00] <djlewis> geez, my sound works better if I get the plugs in the correct jacks :P
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  • [03:15:13] <ZeZu> gets hot enough to burn my finger, cause random segfaults?, and shut off completely
  • [03:16:12] <ShadowJK> Antec P182 and Noctua U14 or something, should make it quieter
  • [03:19:21] <ds2> then run it slower
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  • [06:31:06] <kunguz> My usbs on beagleboard keeps failing with this message: http://sudrap.org/paste/text/15180/ ,by the way I am using ubuntu-arm-headless.
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  • [06:46:55] <kunguz> I already have a capacitor 22uF at the place of C97. I am using a beagleboard version C3 by the way.
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  • [06:59:44] <av500> anybody interested in 8 DVDs of Palm OS Banzai training material?
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  • [07:11:05] <Nico_Liu> Hi, I've install the tslib and touchscreen driver on my target board, how to make the angstrom OS to support the touchscreen?
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  • [07:13:38] <av500> can you read the ts events from /dev/input/whatever?
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  • [07:17:38] <Nico_Liu> yes, I can read some random bytes from the /dev/input/event2 when I touch the screen
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  • [07:24:00] <netseal> ls
  • [07:24:11] <av500> .
  • [07:24:12] <av500> ..
  • [07:24:21] <av500> porn/
  • [07:24:23] <netseal> cat /proc/info
  • [07:24:29] <av500> miaow
  • [07:24:39] <netseal> hea?
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  • [07:24:46] <netseal> what the hack
  • [07:25:05] <av500> hea?: command not found
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  • [07:31:20] <woglinde> gm crofton
  • [07:31:26] <woglinde> hi av500
  • [07:32:16] <Crofton> gm
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  • [07:32:51] <woglinde> hm nice khem took my uclibc patches up
  • [07:33:17] <woglinde> so tomorrow or next with oe-core it's possible to build systemd with uclibc
  • [07:33:22] <woglinde> +week
  • [07:33:32] <av500> gm woglinde|Crofton
  • [07:36:05] <kunguz> My usbs on beagleboard keeps failing with this message: http://sudrap.org/paste/text/15180/ ,by the way I am using ubuntu-arm-headless.
  • [07:36:10] <kunguz> I already have a capacitor 22uF at the place of C97. I am using a beagleboard version C3 by the way.
  • [07:36:31] <woglinde> what is ubuntu-arm-headless?
  • [07:36:50] <woglinde> when I reomve gnome from my ubuntu install it isnt ubuntu anymore?
  • [07:37:06] <av500> woglinde: ubuntu-headless is ubuntu with serial output
  • [07:37:06] <woglinde> hm reminds me to test xdeb
  • [07:37:20] <woglinde> av500 lol
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  • [07:37:38] <woglinde> so when I configure upstart to run getty on serial device
  • [07:37:47] <woglinde> is ubuntu-headless
  • [07:37:52] <woglinde> very clever
  • [07:37:54] <woglinde> gm ant
  • [07:42:14] <av500> woglinde: no, also the kernel will output boot log on serial
  • [07:42:55] <woglinde> o.O
  • [07:42:57] <woglinde> *g*
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  • [07:45:04] <woglinde> uhm?
  • [07:45:24] <woglinde> omap5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • [07:45:26] <koen> av500 circled it
  • [07:45:39] <koen> or whatever you call google+ing it
  • [07:46:09] <av500> koen: yeah
  • [07:46:52] <woglinde> hm the image alt tag is funny
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  • [07:56:52] <av500> koen: did you find the farmville button yet?
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  • [07:57:10] <woglinde> lol
  • [07:59:36] <ant_work> moin woglinde
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  • [08:03:43] <ant_work> koen: I've noticed two dirs in tmpdir: smthg like angstrom-XX-2010.x (amost empty,only cache) and angstrom-XX-eglibc-2010.x
  • [08:04:17] <ant_work> and btw browsing git.angstrom-distribution gives out "Invalid commit reference: 8fcab9f2a9952270f00d68003997208073168567"
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  • [08:06:36] * koen visits http://git.angstrom-distribution.org/ and sees no such thing
  • [08:06:49] <ant_work> http://git.angstrom-distribution.org/cgi-bin/cgit.cgi/setup-scripts/tree/sources
  • [08:08:36] <koen> ant_work: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/images/Schermafbeelding%202011-07-01%20om%2010.07.48.png
  • [08:08:54] <ant_work> click the links :)
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  • [08:29:35] <kunguz> My usbs on beagleboard keeps failing with this message: http://sudrap.org/paste/text/15180/ ,by the way I am using ubuntu-arm-headless. I already have a capacitor 22uF at the place of C97. I am using a beagleboard version C3 by the way.
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  • [08:30:05] <kunguz> What can I do? It has been pretty long that I bought this one and there is no chance to return it anymore :(
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  • [08:44:52] <Jaykae> Hi, i'm a bit unsure where to put register configurations (e.g. MCBSPLP_SPCR2_REG = 0x00000000), is there a file in the kernel containing these or should they be put in u-boot or something?
  • [08:46:03] <Jaykae> i'm quite new to this, so the question may seem a bit stupid
  • [08:47:54] <av500> there is a mcbsp driver in the kernel
  • [08:48:57] <Jaykae> that contains all the register configs?
  • [08:49:09] <av500> did you look inside?
  • [08:49:34] <Jaykae> yes i've looked inside, found omap-mcbsp.c but nothing in there
  • [08:49:46] <Jaykae> i'll take another check around
  • [08:52:36] <Jaykae> think i've found the correct one, there's many but i guess it's the /arch/arm/mach-omap2/mcbsp.c
  • [08:54:16] <av500> right
  • [08:54:33] <Jaykae> great, thx!
  • [08:58:00] <Jaykae> quick question, is there anyway to compile and build the kernel quickly if you've modified any kernel file? I'm currently trying to build a customized kernel through narcissus, but it takes whole lot of time
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  • [08:58:28] <koen> narcissus doesn't build anything
  • [08:58:45] <koen> it just pull from the binary angstrom feeds
  • [08:59:32] <Jaykae> oh yes right, i stated myself wrongly
  • [09:00:41] <Jaykae> but if i for example just change one register value in mcbsp.c, how do i recompile the kernel, bitbake?
  • [09:01:28] <av500> Jaykae: why do you want to do that?
  • [09:01:42] <av500> how are you using mcbsp?
  • [09:02:26] <Jaykae> i need to make OMAP Slave and a host codec master, because the codec allready generates the clocks through a uC
  • [09:02:41] <Jaykae> there are kernel drivers for that codec allready i've seen in /codecs
  • [09:03:37] <Jaykae> i guess it needs some regmods for that purpose
  • [09:04:16] <kunguz> I soldered a cap in between J1 pin 1 and pin 27, so far it seems to work without any problem.
  • [09:05:07] <av500> Jaykae: yes, but you cannot add a codec just by chnaging one register
  • [09:05:26] <av500> Jaykae: see in the kernel how other codecs are hooked up
  • [09:05:34] <Jaykae> no i know, it needs some asoc glueing and stuff
  • [09:05:46] <Jaykae> but that is fixed
  • [09:06:00] <Jaykae> just need to configure the McBSP for the purpose
  • [09:06:54] <Jaykae> and also expansion pin muxing :)
  • [09:07:28] <woglinde> Jaykae http://www.slimlogic.co.uk/2011/05/openembeddedangstrom-kernel-workflow/
  • [09:08:21] <Jaykae> woglinde, thumbs up
  • [09:08:37] <Jaykae> just what i needed to know: How to build the kernel from source
  • [09:09:11] <woglinde> ?
  • [09:09:23] <woglinde> bitbake -c patch virtual/kernel
  • [09:09:29] <woglinde> than you can build from source
  • [09:10:20] <Jaykae> that gives me the angstrom source?
  • [09:12:20] <Jaykae> i'll read that in detail, gtg for lunch!
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  • [09:31:32] <Helio_2000> Hi, I'm trying to get u-boot prompt through USB OTG in Beagleboard xM
  • [09:31:44] <Helio_2000> for that purpose i'm using xMTEST 20100820 image
  • [09:32:29] <Helio_2000> I can get a /dev/ttyACM0 device in my host PC
  • [09:32:54] <Helio_2000> but then when I use cutecom, minicom or cu I can't get any prompt nor anything
  • [09:33:30] <Helio_2000> does /dev/ttyACM0 device need to be configured with specific baudrate, ... etc ?
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  • [09:41:03] <Hawker> Does someone know how to configure php on BB runing Angstrom?
  • [09:41:25] <woglinde> Hawker opkg update
  • [09:41:30] <Nico_Liu> Hi???I can run the ts_calibrate to adjust the touchscreen, but when the angstrom run, I can't use the touchscreen, How to solve it?
  • [09:41:40] <woglinde> opkg install php lighthttp
  • [09:42:24] <Hawker> I did it only with apache2
  • [09:43:40] <woglinde> opkg install apache2
  • [09:44:55] <koen> Hawker: for the 3rd time: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
  • [09:44:59] <Hawker> It looks like I am missing a link betwean apache and php on Ubuntu I used libapache2-mod-php5
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  • [09:54:46] <woglinde> opkg list php
  • [09:55:37] <Hawker> tried that to didn't help...
  • [09:58:00] <mlip> any chance somebody here is tinkering around with realtek chips on 2.6.39 ? ;)
  • [09:59:43] <koen> mlip: I have an 8187 somewhere on my desk
  • [10:00:05] <mlip> koen, just wondering if 8192 series works on the 2.6.39 checkout ti is using
  • [10:00:18] <mlip> i can load the module, which loads the firmware
  • [10:00:41] <mlip> but just can't get beyong "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready"
  • [10:00:56] <mlip> nothing happens, no more dmest output, just plain nothing ;)
  • [10:03:17] * koen remembers something about 8192 having different versions
  • [10:03:30] <mlip> fw versions?
  • [10:03:36] <koen> chip versions
  • [10:03:39] <koen> 8192cu?
  • [10:03:44] <mlip> yeah, i am using cu
  • [10:03:47] <av500> 8192 different version?
  • [10:04:47] <mlip> trusting ubuntu's wiki and forum posts "ID 050d:1102" should be 8192cu
  • [10:05:43] <mlip> http://pastebin.com/CX2rk5Di
  • [10:08:56] <koen> mlip: tried poking it with iw?
  • [10:10:20] <mlip> koen, i did with wpa_sup with my known-to-work wpa.conf
  • [10:11:56] <mlip> mhm ... I am probably just missing some mac encryption module, since scanning works
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  • [10:25:32] <JaeKae> woglinde, quite good article :-)
  • [10:26:01] <woglinde> JaeKae :)
  • [10:26:03] <JaeKae> seems to contain mostly of what i was wondering about
  • [10:26:08] <mlip> nvm! fucking typos!
  • [10:26:18] <woglinde> mlip yes?
  • [10:26:50] <mlip> sorry, did refer to my discussion above
  • [10:26:55] <mlip> ;)
  • [10:27:04] <woglinde> mlip yes
  • [10:27:08] <woglinde> where was the typo?
  • [10:27:32] <mlip> wpa conf ... which was the only thing that that is supposed to work out of the box
  • [10:28:31] <woglinde> ?
  • [10:29:46] <mlip> I got a wpa.conf from my colleague, who said that it works 100% and was wondering why I couldn't get any connection
  • [10:29:59] <mlip> I shouldn't have trusted him though
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  • [10:30:51] <woglinde> hihi
  • [10:31:28] <mlip> the (actually not too) funny thing is I considered checking the kernel for patches before looking at the config file ...
  • [10:33:10] <JaeKae> Play him the song 3OH3 - Don't trust me ;) He'll be happy to hear it
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  • [10:34:57] <Azad> Hi, can we use a darlington pair circiut for increasing current rating if device is Battery operated?
  • [10:35:11] <JaeKae> time to quit, thanks for the support guys!
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  • [10:45:09] <netseal> Hi, I am trying to find out what necessary is for the spicore on the craneboard.
  • [10:45:32] <netseal> can somebody help me out?
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  • [11:00:39] <hitlin37> so,eagleboard is already named...what will be next beagleboard called
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  • [11:06:43] <av500> horseboard
  • [11:08:12] <dm8tbr> vultureboard and elreg will be media sponsor
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  • [11:10:45] <hitlin37> dolphinboard is sweet
  • [11:11:08] <av500> no fish please
  • [11:13:36] <dm8tbr> the whaleboard sadly failed
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  • [11:20:33] <mru> snailboard
  • [11:20:35] <mru> atom-based
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  • [11:25:47] <koen> av500: dolphins are technically mammals, no?
  • [11:27:46] <woglinde> koen right
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  • [11:28:01] <av500> koen: geee, really?(tm)
  • [11:28:16] <woglinde> poor daddy
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  • [11:41:09] <ant_work> I'd still favour "beagleboar" . Wild.
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  • [11:47:53] <Helio_2000> well, it seems I finally managed to connect to ttyACM0 with minicom when my beagleaboard xM is inside u-boot
  • [11:48:08] <Helio_2000> however, I have problems with the received characters
  • [11:48:22] <Helio_2000> sometimes some of them are ommitted
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  • [11:52:00] <hitlin37> how are u receiving characters,using at commands?..
  • [11:52:23] <av500> hitlin37: no
  • [11:52:29] <av500> ACM support in uboot I guess
  • [11:52:36] <av500> usb serial
  • [11:53:08] <hitlin37> but /dev/acm0 will only understand at commands..no?
  • [11:53:24] <koen> ttyACM is just a serial port
  • [11:53:37] <Helio_2000> yes
  • [11:53:50] <Helio_2000> I know but some characters are ommited
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  • [11:54:01] <Helio_2000> I've tried with minicom, cutecom and cu
  • [11:54:15] <Helio_2000> does baud rate or any congiuration matter?
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  • [11:55:04] <Helio_2000> hitlin37: it's /dev/ttyACM0
  • [11:58:05] <hitlin37> as its a serial port ,change ur minicom setting for baud rate.and "AT" should return "OK"
  • [11:58:34] <Helio_2000> dmesg in my host PC says this:
  • [11:58:41] <Helio_2000> cdc_acm 7-2:1.0: This device cannot do calls on its own. It is not a modem.
  • [11:58:52] <Helio_2000> cdc_acm 7-2:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device
  • [11:59:09] <Helio_2000> and AT does not return OK
  • [11:59:20] <Helio_2000> it is the u-boot prompt what I can access through it
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  • [11:59:53] <hitlin37> u need to have a enable acm drivers in kernel i guess(no sure)
  • [12:03:14] <hitlin37> no idea
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  • [12:03:31] <woglinde> helio help
  • [12:03:35] <woglinde> type it
  • [12:04:07] <Helio_2000> yeah
  • [12:04:10] <woglinde> and after kernel is loaded and started the terminal will vanish
  • [12:04:12] <Helio_2000> I go u-boot's help
  • [12:04:12] <Helio_2000> I got
  • [12:04:18] <woglinde> yes
  • [12:04:22] <woglinde> so you are fine now
  • [12:04:25] <Helio_2000> however, the problem I have is that some characters are lost
  • [12:04:40] <Helio_2000> i.e. if I execute help 5 times I get 5 different results
  • [12:04:42] <woglinde> and?
  • [12:04:48] <Helio_2000> because characters are randomly missed
  • [12:05:00] <woglinde> faulty hw?
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  • [12:05:42] <woglinde> I am only using it with non-xm b rev4
  • [12:05:44] <woglinde> and it works
  • [12:06:06] <Helio_2000> non-xm?
  • [12:06:11] <woglinde> yes
  • [12:06:33] <Helio_2000> mine is beagle xM Rev B
  • [12:06:39] <woglinde> yes
  • [12:06:43] <woglinde> I already read
  • [12:06:51] <woglinde> mine is bRev4 without xm
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  • [12:08:33] <woglinde> hi joelagnel1
  • [12:08:42] <joelagnel1> hi woglinde :)
  • [12:09:02] <Helio_2000> woglinde: I'll try with another board I have in the lab
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  • [12:10:32] <woglinde> usb suckz
  • [12:10:37] <woglinde> has to many quirks
  • [12:10:51] <koen> joelagnel1: sure, I have a few minutes
  • [12:11:08] <koen> joelagnel1: no need for PM, we can show you the exact steps here as well :)
  • [12:11:50] <joelagnel1> I didn't have a technical question really :)
  • [12:14:52] <Helio_2000> nah, two different beagleboards, same error
  • [12:15:01] <joelagnel1> koen, but anyway. I agree with you that fixing pulse is the way to go but removing it worked and Gerald is happy with the image from his tests. Considering this, do you still want me we try to fix it?
  • [12:15:33] <Helio_2000> woglinde: what u-boot version are you using?
  • [12:16:02] <koen> joelagnel1: yes, since I'll be the one ending up supporting it
  • [12:16:13] <woglinde> Helio_2000 hm 3 or 4 months old
  • [12:16:39] <koen> joelagnel1: hacks to quickly ship something only work if you don't have to support it
  • [12:19:32] <joelagnel1> koen, ok in that case I will try to rework it, no problem. Are you certain that loading the silence module makes the issues go away?
  • [12:19:56] <koen> suspend-on-idle will close the device when pulse isn't using it
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  • [12:20:25] <koen> so if you aren't playing ding.wav on the desktop, mplayer and aplay will just work
  • [12:20:35] <koen> otherwise, just use pasuspender
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  • [12:22:02] <av500> koen: pasuspender is what keeps Lennarts trousers on?
  • [12:24:23] <joelagnel1> koen, ok I will let you know how it goes. ty
  • [12:24:37] <joelagnel1> koen, btw do we have the call today?
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  • [13:48:59] * koen should have had lunch before entering this 1h+ call
  • [13:50:52] <mru> order a pizza
  • [13:52:14] <mdp> start a concallbot
  • [13:52:29] <mdp> I would like one of those
  • [13:53:06] <av500> s1) start confcall
  • [13:53:12] <av500> 2) put mic on mute
  • [13:53:15] <av500> 3) go to lunch
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  • [13:55:00] <koen> I actually need to speak on this one
  • [13:55:20] <av500> prerecord: "..I told you so last year..."
  • [13:56:10] <koen> wait, are you on this call?
  • [13:56:47] <av500> you shouldnt have put the passcode on +1
  • [13:57:03] <koen> ah
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  • [16:01:39] <av500> hmm, 34xx TRM is at ZQ
  • [16:01:46] <av500> ah no, ZR
  • [16:02:53] <mru> has there really been over 600 revisions?
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  • [16:04:12] <av500> no
  • [16:04:18] <av500> Z -> ZA
  • [16:04:34] <mru> 1 2 3 4 ... 9 91 92 93
  • [16:04:39] <av500> yes
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  • [16:04:48] <av500> so I wait for ZZA
  • [16:05:10] <av500> and eventually ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha
  • [16:05:55] <woglinde> *g*
  • [16:06:16] <av500> of course version ZZT is also cool
  • [16:06:22] <av500> or was it ZTT?
  • [16:06:33] <av500> but that does not match the naming scheme
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  • [16:09:54] <joelagnel> koen, pulseaudio suspend is installed, audio tests still fail. pacmd doesn't work either 'Daemon not responding'
  • [16:10:23] <av500> apt get remove pulseaudio
  • [16:11:15] <joelagnel> koen doesn't agree
  • [16:11:31] <av500> apt get remove koen
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  • [16:11:53] <veetid> anyone here work with CE BSP from TI?
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  • [16:12:03] <joelagnel> ERROR: Joel still depends on package
  • [16:12:10] <veetid> just trying to see where I can change the display bit depth, it appears to default to 16bpp and I want it to be 24bpp
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  • [16:12:21] <av500> zypper zipit joelagnel
  • [16:13:04] <joelagnel> ;)
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  • [17:00:33] <chrisw957> hi all. shouldn't something like this work:
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  • [17:00:43] <chrisw957> echo hello | ./netcat -v -v -n -w 1 -u 127.0.0.1 2344
  • [17:00:59] <chrisw957> I'm using netcat, not the bb version.
  • [17:01:20] <chrisw957> gnu netcat 0.7.1
  • [17:02:01] <chrisw957> At first I was trying on an overo, but when that wouldn't work, I pulled out the xm to verify, but it doesn't seem to work there either.
  • [17:02:35] <chrisw957> I get "Total sent bytes: 0"
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  • [17:13:57] <joelagnel> Anyone had issues with big (> 200MB) FAT32 SD Card partitions on an -xM rev C?
  • [17:14:10] <av500> 200MB is too FAT
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  • [17:15:27] <joelagnel> av500, I know. I am using a pre-built image from the Always Innovating guys so I'm stuck with it. Though I don't want to recreate that partition unless I'm sure its size is what's causing it to not boot
  • [17:16:17] <koen> joelagnel: is the suspend on idle module being loaded and active?
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  • [17:17:19] <joelagnel> koen, how do I check if its active?
  • [17:18:05] <av500> fdisk p
  • [17:18:48] <joelagnel> koen, the conf files have it enabled
  • [17:19:46] <sakoman_> koen: is it "safe" to delete tmpdir when using oe-core. i.e. is that still the way to do a clean build?
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  • [17:30:43] <koen> sakoman_: rm pseudodone build/sstate-cache/ build/tmp-angstrom_2010_x-eglibc/*/* -rf
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  • [17:33:46] <prpplague> koen: ping
  • [17:34:02] <koen> prpplague: pong
  • [17:34:09] <koen> joelagnel: pactl
  • [17:34:20] <koen> joelagnel: it's all in the pulseaudio docs :)
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  • [17:38:56] <ds2> koen: with current OE, is xorg input w/tslib deprecated?
  • [17:39:13] <ds2> s/OE/Angstrom/ since OE includes too many things
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  • [17:41:37] <sakoman_> koen: sounds like "oebb.sh clean" would be handy!
  • [17:45:37] <koen> ds2: xf86-input-tslib doesn't have any development, so evdev is the preferred way
  • [17:45:48] <koen> sakoman_: good idea, patches accepted!
  • [17:46:13] <ds2> koen: gotcha... is there a recommended calibrator in Angstrom?
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  • [17:47:24] <koen> ds2: xinput-calibrator is supposed to work
  • [17:48:12] <ds2> 'k
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  • [18:23:29] <Crofton> on the eagle board, any estimate of what soon means?
  • [18:25:38] <_av500_> fairy soon
  • [18:25:50] <Crofton> send me one please
  • [18:25:51] <dm8tbr> lol
  • [18:25:54] <Crofton> ok dinner
  • [18:27:38] <thurbad> you mean eagleboard isn't a joke?
  • [18:28:10] <_av500_> thurbad: what?
  • [18:28:46] <thurbad> I thought it was a joke based on looking at the website
  • [18:28:52] <woglinde> sparrowboard
  • [18:28:54] <_av500_> its a real website
  • [18:29:00] <thurbad> looked like a parody or something
  • [18:29:19] <Crofton> no
  • [18:29:26] <thurbad> heh, ok
  • [18:29:30] <Crofton> l8r
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  • [18:29:37] <_av500_> happy skiing
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  • [18:37:40] <mru> thurbad: have you also seen http://animalboard.org/ ?
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  • [18:56:29] <thurbad> yes, that's were I saw eagleboard.org
  • [18:56:48] <thurbad> looked like they were spoofing pandaboard though
  • [18:57:08] * mru suggests a whois query on that domain
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  • [19:19:04] <pjmo> i finally got android to boot
  • [19:19:17] <pjmo> had a problem with the SD card
  • [19:19:27] <pjmo> apparently not all sd cards are the same!
  • [19:19:57] <pjmo> where do i look to set up teh keyboard?
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  • [19:21:14] <koen> mru: kingfisherboard
  • [19:21:28] <koen> to stay into the arm codename boards
  • [19:21:43] * koen wonders how woglinde knows about sparrow
  • [19:23:02] <woglinde> jack sparrow
  • [19:23:45] * koen actually forgot which core sparrow mapped to a5 or m4
  • [19:23:52] <koen> or something different
  • [19:24:21] * woglinde is makeing a oe beagle console-image to get chromium-browser crosscompiled inside ubuntu chroot
  • [19:25:06] <koen> qemu-system-arm makes me way too lazy
  • [19:25:19] <koen> but it saves hunting for extra +5V supplies
  • [19:25:57] <ds2> heheheheheheh
  • [19:26:14] <woglinde> hiho ds2
  • [19:26:46] <ds2> I want a Dodoboard
  • [19:27:08] <koen> autrecheboard
  • [19:28:46] <ds2> koen: would you know off hand if the protection diodes to the power rail/ground get disabled when the pinmux is in safe mode?
  • [19:31:35] <koen> sorry, no
  • [19:37:13] <chrisw957> Back on my netcat issue, I found it.
  • [19:37:14] <chrisw957> http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/busybox-cvs/2010-July/031541.html
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  • [19:47:49] <veetid> the BeagleBoard xM can output 24 bit "true color" on the DVI-D correct?
  • [19:48:17] <koen> chrisw957: that bugreport is funny
  • [19:48:27] <koen> chrisw957: unsigned char is not an endian problem :)
  • [19:49:49] <thurbad> veetid, correct
  • [19:50:25] <veetid> good... I am running WinCE, I know it's for a work project, but I set the resolution in the boot loader, but it appears that I only get display in 16bpp
  • [19:50:46] <veetid> I have searched through the DSS drivers and the TI BSP, and cannot find anywhere to change the bpp
  • [19:50:51] <veetid> anyone here know anything about that?
  • [19:51:19] <woglinde> veetid hm 99% here are using linux
  • [19:51:29] <veetid> I know
  • [19:51:33] <veetid> probably 99.9
  • [19:51:41] <veetid> just figured I would ask
  • [19:51:46] <veetid> and at least verify the hardware is capable
  • [19:51:53] <thurbad> and 98% probably never looked at dss beyond the arguments
  • [19:52:54] <ds2> you change it by installing Linux
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  • [19:59:34] <chrisw957> koen: yeah. I can confirm the fix works though, if one wanted to add it to the recipe.
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  • [21:14:34] <_av500_> koen: ping
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  • [21:47:08] <koen> _av500_: pong
  • [21:47:37] <woglinde_> mong
  • [21:47:44] <woglinde_> hmhm
  • [21:47:54] * woglinde_ builds now a sysroot with rootstock
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  • [21:53:02] <Svartalf> Snerk...
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  • [21:58:29] <xxiao> just checked origenboard was sold out
  • [21:59:08] <ds2> what about the pineboards?
  • [21:59:37] <xxiao> ever since beagle jumps out, everyboard else has a me-to-board now
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  • [21:59:56] <xxiao> s/everyboard/every chip maker/
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  • [22:00:16] <ds2> everyone? which one has the Tegra2?
  • [22:00:54] <woglinde_> yes
  • [22:01:02] <woglinde_> we make progress with the ac100
  • [22:01:10] * xxiao 's old colleague is making more than 200K a year at Nvidia nowadays proudly
  • [22:01:16] <woglinde_> and new xorg driver was released too
  • [22:01:39] <xxiao> and was told no time to play with small players
  • [22:01:41] <woglinde_> xxiao what he is doing there?
  • [22:01:59] <ds2> woglinde: but the ac100 is not sub $200 yet
  • [22:02:08] <xxiao> woglinde_: a tech manager doing tools
  • [22:02:15] <woglinde_> it isnt sold in us anyway
  • [22:02:24] <ds2> what about low cost snapdragons?
  • [22:02:26] <ds2> ;)
  • [22:02:31] <woglinde_> and its down to 190 euros since 2 months
  • [22:02:37] <woglinde_> here in europe
  • [22:02:46] <ds2> 190 euros is about 290 right?
  • [22:03:54] <buZz> 190 euro's = 275,65200 Amerikaanse dollars
  • [22:04:31] <ds2> it dropped
  • [22:04:48] <_av500_> ds2: 199??? = 199$
  • [22:05:13] <ds2> _av500_: so if I give you $199, you'll give me $199 euros? ;)
  • [22:05:41] <_av500_> no
  • [22:05:53] <_av500_> but prices are like that
  • [22:05:59] <_av500_> eu vat and us no vat etc
  • [22:06:04] <_av500_> and eu import taxes
  • [22:06:06] <ds2> that's only if it is sold in the US
  • [22:06:08] <_av500_> ends up the same more or less
  • [22:06:12] <_av500_> true
  • [22:06:25] <_av500_> but all those tech blogs regularly miss that
  • [22:06:33] <ds2> *nod*
  • [22:06:34] <_av500_> omg, ???500 is soooooooo much here
  • [22:06:52] <_av500_> and stupid tech blog comment writers too
  • [22:07:12] <ds2> probally rest of europe never updated the euro rate since it came out ;0
  • [22:07:22] <xxiao> time to load my panda board this weekend
  • [22:07:58] <xxiao> it's collecting dusts, what's the new revs about? any design fault or just little improvements?
  • [22:08:08] <xxiao> i have the earliest rev
  • [22:08:44] <ds2> about sending electrons around glass with various contaminates
  • [22:09:15] <woglinde_> ds2 so what now with tegra?
  • [22:09:32] <ds2> woglinde_: eh?
  • [22:09:59] <woglinde_> -> 23:59 < ds2> everyone? which one has the Tegra2?
  • [22:10:27] <ds2> woglinde_: that was regarding -<xxiao> ever since beagle jumps out, everyboard else has a me-to-board now
  • [22:12:06] <woglinde_> cyberport.de has it now for 179
  • [22:12:56] <woglinde_> still think about to got my media market and ask to sell there last one for 150 to me
  • [22:13:07] <Svartalf> I don't think there's a Tegra 2 "me too" board right at the moment. There's an ST-Ericsson one, technically Marvell has one (SheevaPlug, etc...), but the others don't currently seem to have anything like the Beagle/Panda.
  • [22:13:21] <_av500_> tegra does not need a mee too board
  • [22:13:27] <_av500_> see how many design wins
  • [22:13:39] <_av500_> samsung has origen
  • [22:13:48] <_av500_> ste has snowball
  • [22:13:53] <_av500_> ti has panda
  • [22:14:03] <_av500_> freescale has efika more or less
  • [22:14:13] <Svartalf> No... Seems they have more than enough wins... The only failing I see with the Tegra is the lack of NEON. I'd forgot Origen. Didn't know about efika.
  • [22:14:34] <ds2> or the lack of documentation
  • [22:14:35] <_av500_> Svartalf: t3 will have neon
  • [22:14:42] <Svartalf> Yeah, I know.
  • [22:14:47] <_av500_> and I have a 20k qualcomm "board" :)
  • [22:14:49] <Svartalf> Been following it a bit closely.
  • [22:15:00] <ds2> their factory is hiring glass blowers to add the Neon
  • [22:15:05] <_av500_> not really the community type..
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  • [22:16:02] <Svartalf> I was working for a medical device firm (BIG player...) trying to do something "disruptive" to their market segment. Needed to consider ARM as it's target CPU. Unfortunately only Tegra2 had PCIe available (needed...) and none in hand other than the current design wins...so that idea was shelved for the time being.
  • [22:16:30] <ds2> slap a PCIe bridge on the GPMC?
  • [22:16:53] <Svartalf> Heh...nice try, but no... Needs to be at peak performance. That won't do well... >:-D
  • [22:16:54] <woglinde_> medical device firm philips or siemens?
  • [22:16:59] <Svartalf> No...
  • [22:17:06] <_av500_> coca cola
  • [22:17:11] <ds2> what are you doing that need PCIe?
  • [22:17:12] <Svartalf> Heh...NO.
  • [22:17:24] <woglinde_> ds2 ssd
  • [22:17:26] <_av500_> ds2: dog scans
  • [22:17:32] <ds2> why SSD?!
  • [22:17:33] <Svartalf> Can't disclose...under NDA. Just suffice it to say that it WAS needed.
  • [22:17:41] <woglinde_> he its medical device
  • [22:17:43] <_av500_> ds2: why NAND???
  • [22:17:49] <ds2> why not an array of NAND?
  • [22:17:51] <ds2> _av500_: :P
  • [22:17:58] <ds2> NAND4EVER
  • [22:18:01] <buZz> cool, ARM ATX boards for desktops
  • [22:18:05] * buZz cant wait
  • [22:18:13] <woglinde_> buzz what?
  • [22:18:17] <Svartalf> More to the point, I WOULD like to go back to working for them come January. Heh...politics and budgets to end of fiscal year thing.
  • [22:18:23] <_av500_> ...nandaddy, tell me about the past...
  • [22:18:37] <buZz> oh i was just reading PCIe needed and Tegra2
  • [22:18:47] <buZz> figured it would move towards normal pc hardware then ;)
  • [22:18:59] <buZz> (which is VERY overdue)
  • [22:19:02] <_av500_> if it aint got A20 gate, it wont cut it...
  • [22:19:03] <Svartalf> Heh... NVidia's aiming for that- they're caught between a rock and a hard place otherwise.
  • [22:19:28] <Svartalf> That's part of what the KalEl iteration's about.
  • [22:19:33] <woglinde_> he atleast the released the an actual xorg driver again
  • [22:19:44] <ds2> let's put an A20 gate on the GPMC ;)
  • [22:19:46] <_av500_> xorg still exists?
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  • [22:19:59] <Svartalf> av500: Yeah, they do.
  • [22:20:33] <ds2> woglinde_: accelerated xorg driver?
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  • [22:20:43] <woglinde_> ds2 yes
  • [22:20:48] <woglinde_> with gles
  • [22:20:58] <Svartalf> wait, what?
  • [22:21:08] <ds2> woglinde_: downloadable by mere mortals?
  • [22:21:09] <woglinde_> yes?
  • [22:21:10] <Svartalf> Is the gles FOSS as well?
  • [22:21:13] <woglinde_> ds2 yes
  • [22:21:16] <woglinde_> no foss
  • [22:21:21] <_av500_> course not
  • [22:21:21] <woglinde_> kernel is foss
  • [22:21:30] <Svartalf> Damn...I'd hoped of things being...different for a change.
  • [22:21:41] <buZz> > Support for the A20 gate was removed in the Nehalem microarchitecture.
  • [22:21:45] <ds2> woglinde_: what kernel are you using for the ac100?
  • [22:21:50] <_av500_> Svartalf: nobody will release foss gl drivers any time soon
  • [22:21:57] <Svartalf> Depends...
  • [22:22:01] <ds2> isn't that a VIA C7 chip?
  • [22:22:04] <buZz> core i7 has no A20?
  • [22:22:14] <buZz> nehalem = core i7
  • [22:22:21] <ds2> _av500_: get ARM to for their 3D hw
  • [22:22:23] <woglinde_> http://developer.nvidia.com/content/linux-tegra-release-12-alpha-1-released
  • [22:22:29] <woglinde_> ds2 .38
  • [22:22:38] <Svartalf> Depends on several factors...one of which being an OEM that's the cause of the Broadcom stuff becoming FOSS.
  • [22:22:44] <woglinde_> nvidia and chromeos merged
  • [22:23:00] <Svartalf> ds2: That would require someone buying them out, I fear.
  • [22:23:16] <ds2> Svartalf: why?
  • [22:23:17] <Svartalf> I could be wrong on that one...but ImgTec and ARM won't be FOSSing first.
  • [22:23:17] <woglinde_> https://gitorious.org/~woglinde/ac100/woglindes-marvin24s-kernel/commits/chromeos-ac100-2.6.38-wifi
  • [22:23:35] <Svartalf> I've had several discussions w/them on the subject in the past... No-go.
  • [22:23:40] <ds2> oh
  • [22:23:41] <woglinde_> yes
  • [22:23:46] <Svartalf> With either company in question.
  • [22:23:49] <ds2> woglinde_: does that work with the viewsonic stuff?
  • [22:24:00] <woglinde_> ds2 dont know
  • [22:24:05] <woglinde_> dont have a viewsonic
  • [22:24:08] * Svartalf has helped many a company make FOSS drivers and was one of the group that set the ball rolling on 3D for Linux.
  • [22:24:18] <woglinde_> but one viewsonic guy build his own nvec driver
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  • [22:26:23] <ds2> nvec driver?
  • [22:26:34] <ds2> isn't that for the kb only?
  • [22:26:55] <woglinde_> yes
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  • [22:27:00] <woglinde_> the bloody kb
  • [22:27:09] <ds2> though the toshiba ac100 is a tablet?
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  • [22:30:00] <woglinde_> no
  • [22:30:07] <woglinde_> the folio 100 is the tablet
  • [22:30:18] <ds2> ah, yes
  • [22:30:30] <woglinde_> price in media markt
  • [22:30:33] <woglinde_> still 399
  • [22:32:55] <_av500_> media lol
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  • [22:33:52] <ds2> how hot does the ac100 get?
  • [22:37:14] <woglinde_> a bit
  • [22:37:21] <woglinde_> but its okay and local
  • [22:37:30] <woglinde_> and its not as hot as an atom
  • [22:37:31] <woglinde_> haha
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  • [22:47:25] * khem needs efika sb
  • [22:47:38] <ds2> sb?
  • [22:47:43] <_av500_> smartbook
  • [22:47:43] <khem> smartbook
  • [22:47:48] <ds2> oh
  • [22:47:58] <woglinde_> why?
  • [22:47:58] <ds2> keyboards are obsolete ;)
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  • [22:48:12] <khem> but fingers still exist
  • [22:49:27] <ds2> that's for gesturing
  • [22:50:24] * _av500_ gestures wildly at ds2
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