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  • [01:29:13] <jkridner> ds2: ping. I wanted to, but doesn't look like I'm going. Just too many conflicts.
  • [01:29:59] <ka6sox-farfarawa> ds2, thats @ the end of the month?
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  • [01:33:16] <ds2> ka6sox: around July 27
  • [01:33:48] <ds2> ka6sox: you a west coast ham?
  • [01:38:13] <ka6sox-farfarawa> ds2, yup...
  • [01:38:30] <ka6sox-farfarawa> about as far west as you can go.
  • [01:45:57] <ds2> HI?
  • [01:46:10] <ds2> American Semoa?
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  • [01:47:50] <ka6sox-farfarawa> okay sorry...I'm on the Pacific plate but 100miles west of Los Angeles.
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  • [01:48:50] <ds2> hehe, didn't think region 6 extends out that much ;)
  • [01:50:00] <ka6sox-farfarawa> ya, it goes to hawaii....
  • [01:50:03] <ka6sox-farfarawa> kh6
  • [01:50:38] <ds2> oh
  • [01:50:42] <ds2> techplus?
  • [01:53:07] <ka6sox-farfarawa> me?
  • [01:53:13] <ka6sox-farfarawa> extra.
  • [01:55:49] <ds2> wow, you kept the old call
  • [01:56:23] <ka6sox-farfarawa> mine is sox and xyl's is jwl.
  • [01:56:53] <ds2> xyl?
  • [01:57:13] <ka6sox-farfarawa> wife
  • [01:57:16] <ds2> ah
  • [01:57:39] <ds2> but aren't extras entitled to short signs like w6xx?
  • [02:00:52] <ka6sox-farfarawa> yes
  • [02:01:38] <ds2> so, what's your interest in the beagle? =)
  • [02:02:38] <ka6sox-farfarawa> I have 3 @ my office we are using for various things.
  • [02:03:59] <ka6sox-farfarawa> and they are close enough to my nook color that I am testing things on them before applying to the nook.
  • [02:04:27] <ds2> you are doing the alternative firmware stuff for the Nook?
  • [02:04:39] <ka6sox-farfarawa> some....
  • [02:04:52] <ka6sox-farfarawa> we have angstom running on it now.
  • [02:05:00] <ka6sox-farfarawa> angstrom.
  • [02:06:20] <ka6sox-farfarawa> and we are using angstrom to figure out all the things we need.
  • [02:06:44] <ds2> what kind of suspend battery life are you getting out of angstrom on the Nook?
  • [02:07:12] <ka6sox-farfarawa> not doing that yet...just bringing it up to play with...
  • [02:08:28] <ds2> wonder if you guys are ahead or if the SDE based stuff on the Archos is ahead
  • [02:09:57] <ka6sox-farfarawa> dunno...probably them.
  • [02:44:12] <ds2> is "sufficient clue" a valid response ever?
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  • [04:58:19] <ruaok> hi!
  • [04:58:26] <ruaok> I'm trying to get http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardPWM to work.
  • [04:58:44] <ruaok> but glib2 support isn't fully defined. I get this error when trying to compile the source:
  • [04:58:56] <ruaok> /usr/include/glib-2.0/glib/gtypes.h:34:24: error: glibconfig.h: No such file or directory
  • [04:59:11] <ruaok> /usr/include/glib-2.0/glib/gtypes.h:415:2: error: #error unknown ENDIAN type
  • [04:59:26] <ruaok> anyone have glibconfig.h for the beagleboard xm?
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  • [06:25:30] <zuh> ruaok: You are probably missing the '-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include' part from the gcc invocation?
  • [06:26:23] <ruaok> is *that* where the include files are?
  • [06:26:44] <ruaok> thanks for the tip. if I get my beagleoard to boot again, I'll try that.
  • [06:27:03] <ruaok> but its decided to stop booting and I grabbed an arduino that I *know* to not be a total pita
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  • [07:03:30] <NotTooDumb3> when i am trying to build rowboat from http://code.google.com/p/rowboat/wiki/ConfigureAndBuild using make TARGET_PRODUCT=beagleboard in rowboat android folder i am getting this error message: http://pastebin.com/sLPeUrBS i am on fedora12, any suggestions about how to solve this issue?
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  • [07:06:38] <av500> NotTooDumb3: can you read?
  • [07:06:58] <av500> the error message is quite explicit
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  • [07:47:43] <NotTooDumb3> av500, yes error message is very explicit, as java is very new to me i was scared..i got bin and installed 1.5, now rowboat is building
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  • [07:48:59] <av500> java is just some bits on your HDD, it won't bite you
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  • [07:55:48] <NotTooDumb3> ok..
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  • [09:58:15] <woglinde_> koen pong
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  • [10:23:49] <NotTooDumb3> while following this link http://code.google.com/p/rowboat/wiki/ConfigureAndBuild#Build_rootfs i built rowboat and kernel, to build file system using the command sudo ../../../../build/tools/mktarball.sh ../../../host/linux-x86/bin/fs_get_stats android_rootfs . rootfs rootfs.tar.bz2 there is no file fs_get_stats in directory host/linux-x86/bin/ any idea, why is this file missing as i am following the steps..
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  • [10:26:13] <av500> NotTooDumb3: http://code.google.com/p/rowboat/issues/list
  • [10:26:21] <av500> http://code.google.com/p/rowboat/issues/entry
  • [10:27:50] <av500> also: http://arowboat.wordpress.com/about/
  • [10:28:00] <av500> ...IRC chat #rowboat on irc.freenode.net
  • [10:28:05] <av500> ...Mailing list rowboat@googlegroups.com
  • [10:28:11] <woglinde_> hm hm what is sscanf functions really doing
  • [10:28:12] <av500> but you saw all that yourself, no? :)
  • [10:28:26] <av500> woglinde_: mostly buffer overflows and such
  • [10:29:02] <woglinde_> stupid systemd gives me always failed to parse /proc/cpugroups
  • [10:29:45] <NotTooDumb3> av500, thank you.
  • [10:29:52] <av500> what for?
  • [10:30:24] <av500> NotTooDumb3: you are probably the only one here compiling/using rowboat atm
  • [10:30:31] <av500> so, YOU are the expert now
  • [10:30:35] <NotTooDumb3> atm?
  • [10:30:41] <av500> at the moment
  • [10:30:42] <NotTooDumb3> ok..at the moment?
  • [10:30:55] <woglinde_> *g*
  • [10:31:54] <NotTooDumb3> i hope i can succeed in porting android finally..i started with rowboad, then got a tar file from TI android froyo, after i faced an issue wiht TI froyo, when i was googling, i found more about rowboat, so moved again to rowboat
  • [10:32:26] <av500> s/porting/compiling/
  • [10:32:31] <av500> or installing
  • [10:32:46] <woglinde_> hm #systemd now
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  • [10:34:36] <woglinde_> hi risca
  • [10:34:48] <risca> hi woglinde_ =)
  • [10:34:56] * risca is at a LAN party =)
  • [10:35:10] * risca brought his Beagle :D
  • [10:35:17] <woglinde_> so go make some headhsots
  • [10:35:41] * risca don't play... that much :P
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  • [10:37:05] <risca> I plan on doing some embedded developing. The right LAN party can be a great forum for embedded help :D
  • [10:37:19] <av500> is it a beagle LAN party?
  • [10:38:02] <woglinde_> ?
  • [10:38:17] <woglinde_> I dont know any embedded dev, who goes to LAN parties
  • [10:39:09] <av500> most lan parties are about virtually embedding lead shot into others
  • [10:43:00] <NotTooDumb3> do anyone here know boot args/ boot procedure for TI_Android_Froyo_DevKit-V2.2 on beagle board?
  • [10:44:49] <av500> [12:30:23] <av500> NotTooDumb3: you are probably the only one here compiling/using rowboat atm
  • [10:45:15] <NotTooDumb3> that is not rowboat..that's i thought another android package
  • [10:45:50] <av500> NotTooDumb3: TI has so many names for stuff
  • [10:46:10] <av500> and "DevKit" sounds very professional
  • [10:46:13] <av500> no?
  • [10:46:13] <NotTooDumb3> oh..so are these two same? rowboat and froyo in TI site?
  • [10:46:23] <NotTooDumb3> yes..sounds professional
  • [10:46:26] <av500> froyo is an android version
  • [10:46:33] <av500> rowboat is a project
  • [10:46:43] <av500> TI_Android_Froyo_DevKit-V2.2 is a buzzword
  • [10:47:05] * av500 is hungry
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  • [10:50:56] <Garagoth> Good morning.
  • [10:51:29] <Garagoth> A question regardin linker on Angstrom, if I may...
  • [10:51:43] <Garagoth> I have gearbox libs in /usr/local/lib/gearbox
  • [10:52:02] <Garagoth> I have crated /etc/ld.so.conf, added this dir there
  • [10:52:25] <Garagoth> ldconfig cache contains libs from there (verified with ldconfig -p)
  • [10:52:34] <Garagoth> but ld does not see them
  • [10:52:50] <Garagoth> Any hints?
  • [10:53:13] <woglinde_> why you dont write an gearbox recipe
  • [10:53:14] <risca> av500, No, but many of my pals are students and knowledgable =)
  • [10:53:18] <woglinde_> compile it with oe
  • [10:53:24] <woglinde_> and opkg install it
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  • [10:54:38] <Garagoth> woglinde_: I wanted to make a shortcut :-)
  • [10:55:02] <Garagoth> I have to learn oe
  • [10:55:39] <Garagoth> but... will that change anything?
  • [10:55:49] <Garagoth> libs will still be in same directory
  • [10:56:56] <woglinde_> ?
  • [10:57:12] <woglinde_> /usr/local/ is mostly used for non packaged software
  • [10:57:35] <Garagoth> true
  • [10:57:46] <Garagoth> so it will be /usr/lib/gearbox
  • [10:57:55] <woglinde_> yes
  • [10:58:13] <Garagoth> which is still not a standard path and ld will not see it...
  • [10:59:22] <woglinde_> yes and normaly compiling makes it right
  • [10:59:37] <woglinde_> with rpath linker option
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  • [11:00:18] <Garagoth> and why does /etc/ld.so.conf does not work?
  • [11:00:35] <woglinde_> because you forgot ldconfif call?
  • [11:00:38] <woglinde_> ups ldconfig
  • [11:00:42] <Garagoth> no
  • [11:00:54] <Garagoth> even ldconfig -p prints those libs
  • [11:01:12] <Garagoth> but ld does not
  • [11:01:28] <woglinde_> ld is only the linker
  • [11:01:55] <Garagoth> gcc -lhokuyo_aist: ld error; gcc -L/usr/local/lib/gearbox -lhokuyo_aist: success
  • [11:04:07] <koen> woglinde_: pong
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  • [11:05:54] <Garagoth> woglinde_: So, any hints about ldconfig/ld ?
  • [11:06:19] <woglinde_> Garagoth learn about linker option -rpath
  • [11:06:28] <woglinde_> and how to parse linker options via gcc
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  • [11:07:21] <Garagoth> woglinde, I'm trying to compile player (from player/stage project) and it is CMake that does not see those libs...
  • [11:08:12] <Garagoth> out of the box it works on ubuntu et al, but on Angstrom when I followed same steps it failed.
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  • [12:01:29] <jkridner|work> koen: is today still a holiday in Europe?
  • [12:01:57] <av500> no
  • [12:02:07] <av500> but a often taken day off
  • [12:03:40] <koen> jkridner|work: what av500 said :)
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  • [12:03:55] <koen> ah, the MA call
  • [12:04:09] <av500> Ma calls?
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  • [12:05:08] <koen> dyslexic AM calls
  • [12:08:59] <koen> lyakh: so if I understand correctly to change options like hflip your app needs to know about subdevs, since the one you get the picture from isn't the one you can set options at
  • [12:09:10] <koen> lyakh: e.g. output from ccdc, hflip in sensor
  • [12:09:35] <av500> koen: flip the monitor instead
  • [12:09:45] <av500> there, I fixed it
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  • [12:24:04] <koen> av500: I flipped the network cable, since it was a stream
  • [12:25:12] <av500> oh no, not it will sound much worse!!!
  • [12:25:17] <av500> oh no, now it will sound much worse!!!
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  • [12:46:36] <lyakh> koen: I'm not 100% sure myself, but what you're saying doesn't sound completely wrong;)
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  • [13:47:25] <joelagnel> morning
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  • [14:39:56] <mru> koen: http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/201106/trust_issues.png
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  • [15:00:06] <koen> heh
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  • [15:11:22] <Garagoth> Is there a way to force hw address of usb0?
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  • [15:18:44] <woglinde> Garagoth xm?
  • [15:18:56] <Garagoth> xm
  • [15:18:57] <woglinde> its module parameter or cmdline parameter
  • [15:19:21] <Garagoth> I tried ifconfig usb0 hw addr .... up
  • [15:19:32] <Garagoth> but it still goes up with random
  • [15:19:59] <Garagoth> hw ether *
  • [15:21:38] <Garagoth> adding proper lines into interfaces file does not help either. Module options you say?
  • [15:22:16] <woglinde> yes or kernelcmdline
  • [15:24:25] <Garagoth> Mm. Will look for it...
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  • [15:59:09] <joelagnel> msg jkridner hi
  • [15:59:13] <joelagnel> lol
  • [15:59:30] <jkridner> hi
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  • [16:00:34] <joelagnel> I read your review comment, are you talking about omap_mux_init_gpio or the bit on gpio + 1 xM controls
  • [16:01:10] <jkridner> both, I think.
  • [16:01:16] <joelagnel> jkridner, because I am already performing a checking for the value in the struct before omap_mux_init_gpio
  • [16:01:19] <jkridner> does your git tree have the latest version of the patch?
  • [16:01:30] <joelagnel> yes
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  • [16:03:25] <jkridner> what branch is it on?
  • [16:03:56] <joelagnel> beagleboard is the repo, beagle-kernel-3 is the branch
  • [16:04:46] <jkridner> k, I was looking at joels-linux
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  • [16:05:40] <joelagnel> oh ok
  • [16:06:04] <joelagnel> https://gitorious.org/joel-kernels/beagleboard
  • [16:09:07] <jkridner> The spacing looks wrong on line 155.
  • [16:09:19] * koen would recommend github, gitorious breaks if you want to view more than 2 lines of diff
  • [16:09:32] <jkridner> shoudl there be a newline at the end of 154?
  • [16:09:52] * koen also recommends checkpatch.pl
  • [16:09:58] <jkridner> but, gitorious is open source. :)
  • [16:10:07] <jkridner> checkpatch.pl is a requirement.
  • [16:10:31] <joelagnel> I did run checkpatch.pl, I will run it again
  • [16:11:06] <koen> why is omap3_beagle_get_rev(void) removed?
  • [16:11:25] <joelagnel> koen, It didn't seem to be used anywhere else
  • [16:12:48] <joelagnel> jkridner, newline required to keep the line length within limits
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  • [16:13:05] <av500> joelagnel: 80char rule is not enforced in kernel
  • [16:13:21] <av500> and imho makes a lot of code really ugly to read
  • [16:13:22] <koen> av500: it is on linux-omap
  • [16:13:29] <av500> m(
  • [16:13:49] <koen> joelagnel: gpio_buttons[0].gpio = beagle_config.usr_button_gpio; should probably go in the gpiokeys blok itself
  • [16:13:52] <jkridner> this is 2 patches now?
  • [16:14:14] * koen is looking at https://gitorious.org/joel-kernels/beagleboard/commit/c54e777abb9435eae483a29f2350fdeb687a6e72
  • [16:14:36] <koen> took me 7 times, but gitorious finally stoped saying "object too large"
  • [16:15:04] <joelagnel> jkridner, not sure what to do about the space. checkpatch doesn't like multiline separator (on line 155) so that is the only warning on
  • [16:15:12] <joelagnel> s/ on//
  • [16:16:37] <joelagnel> koen, usr_button_gpio is different for xMC right
  • [16:17:03] <jkridner> line 95 has a space inconsistency. looks like you didn't create it, so leave it. :)
  • [16:17:25] <joelagnel> :)
  • [16:17:38] <jkridner> user_button_gpio is only different between pre-xM and xM, not between xM and xMC
  • [16:17:54] <joelagnel> sorry yeah.
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  • [16:20:47] <jkridner> I htink the MMC wp default should be -EINVAL, but if that is the only change you are doing, then don't bother.
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  • [16:24:18] <joelagnel> jkridner, the default is -EINVAL
  • [16:26:01] <jkridner> that's not what I see on line 265.
  • [16:26:56] <joelagnel> jkridner, oh but line 288 sets it anyway
  • [16:27:28] <joelagnel> that probably doesn't need to be initialized to a default then
  • [16:28:19] <jkridner> I think the right answer is to default it to -EINVAL, even though it is always set at run-time.
  • [16:28:34] <joelagnel> jkridner, sure I will do that
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  • [16:42:02] <jkridner> joelagnel: now that none of the configuration is done based on the revision ID, you can actually change the setting of the revision back to UNKN. The settings will still be right for BeagleBoard-xM Rev C, which is how it should be.
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  • [16:43:13] <jkridner> that would eliminate needing to worry about formatting that print line. :)
  • [16:46:04] <joelagnel> jkridner, ok will do :)
  • [16:46:38] <jkridner> that's all the feedback I have.
  • [16:47:40] <joelagnel> jkridner, ok thanks. I will send it then
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  • [16:51:13] <parimalN> hi guys, i am running gingerbread-dsp on beagleboard xm, but it is running very slow i am using these bootargs setenv bootargs 'console=ttyS2,115200n8 androidboot.console=ttyS2 mem=68M@0x80000000 mem=128M@0x88000000 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootfstype=ext3 rootdelay=1 init=/init ip=off mpurate=1000 omap_vout.vid1_static_vrfb_alloc=y omap_vout.video2_numbuffers=0 omapdss.def_disp=dvi omapfb.mode=dvi:640x480@60' how do i improve the performance
  • [16:51:21] <parimalN> its a rowboat port
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  • [16:58:55] <jkridner> how are you measuring performance?
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  • [16:59:31] <parimalN> actually i am not measuring, its just very slow
  • [17:00:50] <jkridner> I can't provide a scientific answer to an anti-scientific question.
  • [17:01:43] <jkridner> i haven't run that build, but I've found earlier builds quite usable.
  • [17:03:57] <parimalN> ok so my boot args are ok then
  • [17:05:28] <jkridner> they are build specific, so you might have a better time getting a definitive answer in #rowboat.
  • [17:05:51] <parimalN> ok thanks
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  • [17:33:15] <koen> sakoman__: I've added gdm to meta-gnome, I need to run some more tests and do some cleanup before I push it all
  • [17:39:05] <woglinde> re
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  • [17:57:01] <woglinde> hehe
  • [17:57:03] <woglinde> finally?
  • [17:57:13] <jkridner> the room finally emptied.
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  • [17:57:25] <jkridner> never got the admins to give me /op here. :(
  • [17:58:41] <woglinde> jepp
  • [17:58:46] <woglinde> I know the storry
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  • [18:24:32] <woglinde> jkridner so we are supposed to switch the channel?
  • [18:24:37] <woglinde> *g*
  • [18:25:47] <jkridner> I'm going to start a logbot first.
  • [18:26:10] <jkridner> I'm then going to try to figure out how many weblinks I'll need to update...
  • [18:26:25] <jkridner> I'm frightened of people coming here and finding no one to tell them to go there.
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  • [18:27:29] <_av500_> jkridner: we can manage that
  • [18:27:34] <_av500_> like a bot or so
  • [18:27:39] <_av500_> or woglinde
  • [18:28:02] <woglinde> when av500 pays me
  • [18:28:24] <_av500_> jkridner: if we really manage to empty this channek
  • [18:28:34] <jkridner> leaving a bot in here to automatically /invite would be cool.
  • [18:28:36] <_av500_> we can also reg it and send ppl automagically to the other
  • [18:28:50] <jkridner> yeah, that would be awesome.
  • [18:29:14] <jkridner> so, we really want this, right? now I have to be a cop?
  • [18:29:35] <woglinde> *g*
  • [18:29:45] <woglinde> I would prefer staying here
  • [18:29:54] <jkridner> why so?
  • [18:30:04] <woglinde> I am old school
  • [18:30:09] <woglinde> I cannt change so quick
  • [18:30:22] <jkridner> :)
  • [18:30:24] <_av500_> jkridner: yes, he is moving slowly
  • [18:30:27] <_av500_> i saw him irl
  • [18:30:48] <woglinde> btw you saw me at fosdem2010 too
  • [18:31:04] <_av500_> woglinde: us 2 can stay here and grumble all day like these mupper guys
  • [18:31:12] <_av500_> muppet
  • [18:31:16] <woglinde> hehe yeah
  • [18:31:32] <_av500_> its a stupid little board anyway
  • [18:31:33] <woglinde> hm we are doing it anyqay
  • [18:33:21] <woglinde> *sigh* why svn compare takes ages in eclipse
  • [18:33:43] <_av500_> run it from an ssd
  • [18:33:44] <koen> everything takes ages in eclipse
  • [18:33:49] <woglinde> no
  • [18:34:00] <koen> ok, crashing eclipse doesn't
  • [18:34:03] <woglinde> profiling is quick
  • [18:34:06] <koen> I'll concede that point
  • [18:34:16] <woglinde> for capps
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  • [18:35:25] <woglinde> I hope it will be better in 3.7
  • [18:35:27] <woglinde> or 4
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  • [18:48:28] * Set by jkridner!~jason@pdpc/supporter/active/jkridner on Fri Jun 03 13:43:25 CDT 2011
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  • [18:50:46] <jkridner> test2
  • [18:52:06] <jkridner> hmmm... the logbot doesn't know to put something different in for each room.
  • [18:52:20] <jkridner> if you look at the logs now, there is no indication where you typed your message.
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  • [19:12:50] <ds2> Hmmmm
  • [19:13:10] <ds2> so what's a good feed for a shiney coat?
  • [19:14:21] <jkridner> I hear rice is supposed to help.
  • [19:14:34] <jkridner> and omega something or others.
  • [19:14:49] <ds2> fish and salmon?
  • [19:14:57] <ds2> rice and salmon I mean
  • [19:15:02] <jkridner> exxactly.
  • [19:15:17] <jkridner> rice, tuna, salmon.
  • [19:15:32] <jkridner> google would likely know more than me. :)
  • [19:16:14] <mru> ds2: is this for yourself or a pet?
  • [19:16:19] <NotTooDumb3> Hi..if you do not mind,can i know what is being discussed here? i am bit interested and have decently good knowledge about food..
  • [19:16:40] <jkridner> obviously this is the #beagle channel.
  • [19:16:57] <jkridner> all things beagle. :)
  • [19:16:58] * mdp removes the layer of rice and salmon from his BBxM
  • [19:17:31] <NotTooDumb3> haan? foods for BB?
  • [19:17:43] <jkridner> it is interesting that we don't get sincere dog or search engine folks dropping in for some time.
  • [19:18:45] <mru> I've never heard of anyone using that serach thing
  • [19:19:37] <mdp> this channel is a solution engine
  • [19:19:53] <mdp> everybody asks and are in turn told what search string to feed to a search engine
  • [19:19:53] * mru thought it was a guessing engine
  • [19:19:56] <mdp> it is impressive
  • [19:20:33] <mdp> yeah, guessing engine is probably more accurate given the level of input detail provided by the users
  • [19:21:32] <jkridner> can you do my senior design project?
  • [19:21:34] <mdp> "beagle don't work, what's wrong?"
  • [19:21:50] <mdp> heh
  • [19:21:51] * jkridner notes it is Friday afternoon/evening. :)
  • [19:22:30] <mdp> yes, and this is better than passing on kernel config options to be enabled in some builds
  • [19:22:35] <mdp> can't focus on that
  • [19:23:06] * jkridner is reading up n the BogoMIPS issue
  • [19:23:12] <jkridner> s/n/on/
  • [19:24:23] <jkridner> question being, why does 2.6.37 return ~800 BogoMIPS when 2.6.32 returned ~1000.
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  • [19:25:08] <mdp> and the calibration loop stayed the same?
  • [19:25:51] <_av500_> its bogus anyway
  • [19:26:37] <jkridner> bogus by definition, yet still an annoying question generator.
  • [19:26:45] * jkridner isn't sure about the calibration loop.
  • [19:26:59] <mru> patch the kernel to never print the value, problem solved
  • [19:27:22] <_av500_> patch it to return 5400
  • [19:28:25] <ds2> have it print 14128
  • [19:28:42] <ds2> for the xM and 13616 for the classic
  • [19:29:11] <mdp> jkridner, back in PPC-land we had periodic work on the cal loop that caused this sort of user confusion years ago
  • [19:29:41] <mdp> primarily because of the ability to avoid groking the Bogo prefix
  • [19:30:54] <mdp> jkridner, submit a patch to arago to patch it to printk whatever is in mpurate..I like that idea :)
  • [19:31:23] * mdp goes back to SDIO lockup woes
  • [19:34:03] <koen> mru: my first patch that got accepted upstream was for dashboard, which turned into beagle
  • [19:34:27] <koen> that also marks the last time I wrote c# code
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  • [19:35:10] <koen> jkridner: .37 is limited to 800MHz
  • [19:35:13] * mru notes that koen is still but a baby
  • [19:35:27] <mru> when I sent my first patch, there was no such thing as c#
  • [19:35:43] <koen> yeah, that was in 2004
  • [19:39:10] <jkridner> isn't there a patch?
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  • [19:43:21] <koen> I got 1GHz working on .39
  • [19:43:40] <koen> with 1400 bogomips, so I'm a bit suspicuous on that
  • [19:43:45] <_av500_> 3.9? is that out yet?
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  • [19:45:15] <koen> mdp: cpufreq-info will also give you the mhz rating
  • [19:46:06] <mdp> yep, I was wondering why people were looking a bogomips to draw a correlation to frequency
  • [19:46:30] <mdp> but didn't want to drag the meeting out
  • [19:46:46] <mranostay> heh
  • [19:50:15] <koen> if you have a basepoint on your device you can get a strong correlation
  • [19:50:38] <mdp> :)
  • [19:50:44] <koen> but on a8 it's approx 1x MHz, but on a9 it's approx 2x MHz
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  • [19:50:59] <mdp> until somebody changes the calibration loop
  • [19:51:08] <koen> exactly
  • [19:51:18] <koen> it's isn;t called bogus mips for no reason :)
  • [19:51:27] * mranostay senses a marketing ploy :)
  • [19:51:39] <mdp> I think it's wise to educate those supporting Linux why it's called bogus
  • [19:51:40] <mdp> yep
  • [19:51:59] <mdp> at least it gives us something to talk about
  • [19:53:31] <koen> we could harass NishanthMenon about body biasing instead
  • [19:55:07] <koen> I know something fun
  • [19:55:26] <koen> let's release a 2.6.40 kernel for beagleboard
  • [19:55:36] <mdp> LOL
  • [19:55:53] * koen wonders if we can build it with gcc 2.96
  • [19:56:02] <mru> you cannot
  • [19:56:18] <mru> current kernels require gcc 4.2 or something like that
  • [19:56:34] <koen> yes, but our 2.6.40 will be *better*
  • [19:56:45] <koen> compiled with -noatime and -fmru
  • [19:56:50] <mdp> convert it to C# too
  • [19:57:17] <koen> I said better, not nokia-better :)
  • [19:57:42] <mdp> :)
  • [19:58:34] * koen violated the opencv club rules again
  • [19:58:42] <koen> I mentioned it again
  • [19:58:47] * koen will never learn
  • [19:59:34] <koen> av500: I have a new drinking song
  • [20:00:35] <koen> av500: http://pastebin.com/rAJkZd5x
  • [20:01:49] <mru> lol
  • [20:02:23] <mranostay> that sounds like a mess and tragic
  • [20:02:40] <mranostay> wasting all that good beer and such :)
  • [20:02:51] <mru> it didn't say it was good beer
  • [20:03:56] <koen> this is the 3rd friday in a row this week
  • [20:04:06] <koen> gotta love national holidays
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  • [20:04:34] <mranostay> koen: what kind of beer was it? :)
  • [20:04:48] <koen> bud ight
  • [20:06:09] <mranostay> ah that is fine then. you can pop those other bottles off too :)
  • [20:10:43] <mdp> heh, I have some of that moldering next to the homebrew???waiting for certain tasteless guests to consume it
  • [20:10:58] <mranostay> mdp: that won't be me :)
  • [20:11:13] <mdp> somebody left it here
  • [20:11:55] <mranostay> sure that is a likely story
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  • [20:13:47] <koen> bud light wasn't as bad as I expected it to be, though
  • [20:14:00] <mru> it's not as bad as coors light
  • [20:14:06] <koen> but I spent most of that week suffering from a stomach bug
  • [20:14:20] * koen curses dallas
  • [20:14:55] <mru> depending on the area, coors light might be better than tap water due to lack of chlorine
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  • [20:16:09] <mranostay> and nothing is as bad as Rolling Rock
  • [20:16:23] <mru> I haven't had the misfortune
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  • [20:21:22] <mdp> I should find that blind taste test of several of hte mega-brewers brews???the one where the unanimous best pick was PBR
  • [20:21:26] <mdp> that floored me
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  • [20:26:24] <mranostay> heh
  • [20:28:36] <cbrake> is Angstrom still building 2.6.32 for the beagleboard?
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  • [20:30:37] <ka6sox-never> cbrake, thats what I am using...
  • [20:32:19] <woglinde> cbrake not in oe master
  • [20:32:31] <woglinde> dont know about ti layer
  • [20:32:38] <woglinde> oe master builds .39
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  • [20:33:42] <cbrake> ok, I'll try oe master then
  • [20:37:58] <woglinde> cbrake which dont boots here
  • [20:38:09] <woglinde> so be warned
  • [20:39:50] <ka6sox-never> ouch
  • [20:45:28] <mdp> anybody using an SDIO card on a pre-xM lately?
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  • [20:56:29] <koen> woglinde: but your beagle has broken hw and uses uclibc :)
  • [20:56:59] <koen> .39 boots on B6, C3, C4, C5, xM-A, xM-B, xM-C over here
  • [20:59:06] <woglinde> koen uclibc isnt the fault it doesnt boots
  • [20:59:35] <woglinde> and because I havent a real console when the shit happens I cannt say what it is
  • [20:59:39] <woglinde> maybee musb again
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  • [21:04:45] <koen> mdp: is there an easy way I can reproduce those sdio hangups?
  • [21:07:39] <mdp> my simplest case is insert GPS sdio card???then run "gpsd -N -n -D 2 /dev/ttySDIO0"
  • [21:07:55] <koen> ah
  • [21:08:03] * koen lacks such a card
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  • [21:08:24] <mdp> it will run happily for a while and then presumably lockup the sdio bus because the chip hangs
  • [21:09:27] <mdp> I first saw this with an atheros card on am37x-evm
  • [21:09:42] <woglinde> *sigh* only 2 files left for scanf rewrite in systemd
  • [21:09:44] <mdp> going to try on my c2 bb so I'm ok talking about it here :)
  • [21:10:22] <mdp> koen, I'm just happy I can reproduce on a simple sdio device
  • [21:10:47] <mdp> koen, the important thing is I can run wl1271 on mmc1 on the same board all day long
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  • [21:11:01] <mdp> so omap_hsmmc seems happy
  • [21:12:04] <koen> mdp: I can run wl12xx reliably as well
  • [21:12:12] <koen> I need to figure out the powersave mode on it
  • [21:12:23] <koen> ssh over wilink is stuttering
  • [21:13:09] <mdp> one difference is the configuration of the regulator in fixed mode for these fixed SDIO devices versus the variable mode for the slot that needs to support the range
  • [21:13:37] <mdp> ahh
  • [21:14:06] <mdp> wilinks also don't do inband interrupts, like other devices
  • [21:14:21] * koen has no idea what that means
  • [21:14:32] <mdp> they have a gpio line for irq
  • [21:14:52] <koen> right, I needed to add that to the kernel patch :)
  • [21:14:55] <mdp> whereas a plugin sdio card has to do interrupts over a data line
  • [21:15:31] <koen> I wish I could get a 1283 card for beagle
  • [21:15:49] <koen> not that I need the gps, but I'd like the 5GHz support
  • [21:15:58] <mdp> iirc, 1283 is single stream n capable?
  • [21:16:13] <koen> 1271 is n capable as well
  • [21:16:24] <koen> 12x3 adds 5GHz support
  • [21:16:26] <mdp> oh yes, that's right.
  • [21:16:34] <mdp> i've been told that several times and keep forgetting :)
  • [21:16:42] <mdp> ahh, yeah
  • [21:17:00] <mdp> that's actually one reason I'm *ahem* supporting an AR part
  • [21:17:12] <mdp> 6003 does 40Mhz 5Ghz
  • [21:17:21] <mdp> and it's 5x5mm
  • [21:18:11] <koen> that's what you get for making the wilink devices in texas
  • [21:18:16] <koen> everything is bigger there
  • [21:18:46] <koen> (although as a dutch person, the people seem awfully short in texas)
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  • [21:23:10] <mdp> koen, lol
  • [21:23:30] <cbrake> koen: so do you spend most of your time in TX, or EU?
  • [21:27:12] <mdp> I distinctly remember feeling shorter while traveling in .nl
  • [21:30:35] <buZz> 23:18:46 < koen> (although as a dutch person, the people seem awfully short in texas)
  • [21:30:38] <buZz> hehe
  • [21:30:46] <buZz> -being short- is a dutch expression ;)
  • [21:31:03] <buZz> as in drunk/mental/less capable etc
  • [21:31:17] <buZz> like running short in english but more personal
  • [21:32:09] <woglinde> koen needs a weapon now
  • [21:32:11] <woglinde> ?
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  • [21:36:24] <mdp> buZz, I can resemble that :)
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  • [21:56:23] <woglinde> boahaaa
  • [21:56:30] <woglinde> finally it runs
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  • [23:20:09] <xxiao> omap 4470 to 1.8Ghz, but hi, where can I buy 4430?
  • [23:20:25] <xxiao> resolve your silicon yield issue first!
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  • [23:38:42] <djlewis> gm
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