[00:00:01] <agnel> oh
[00:00:22] <jkridner> the ridgerun code that came from the DM355 worked better.
[00:01:00] <agnel> jkridner, you mentioned in one of your posts that you had to give bootdelay of 10 . could that be it?
[00:01:20] <agnel> *to get serial over usb to work with u-boot
[00:01:50] <agnel> http://tinyurl.com/serialoverusb
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[00:03:27] <agnel> jkridner, ignore me, never mind. I get your point
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[00:03:44] <agnel> :)
[00:04:49] <jkridner> :) if you stop the boot using the serial port, you should be fine.
[00:05:27] <jkridner> when you want to automate it, you'll need a long bootdelay.
[00:05:42] <jkridner> or, to simply disable booting with a uenv.txt
[00:08:40] <agnel> jkridner, sure, I will try that, thanks. steve gave me a C5 board and I don't have a serial port or a usb cable, so I've been trying to get musb to work to see boot messages. Then I thought I would see if I could uboot to work with serial using my -xM and then use the same uboot for C5. So far I haven't been able to.
[00:09:10] <jkridner> how would you do that without a USB cable?
[00:09:21] <agnel> sorry I meant I don't have the serial cable for the rs-232 header
[00:09:40] <jkridner> ah!
[00:09:47] <agnel> :)
[00:09:54] <jkridner> how is the kernel patch coming?
[00:10:19] <agnel> I have reviewed it from my end, it would be good if someone else could review it as well
[00:10:33] <jkridner> the whitespace comment was just that I didn't want the patch to have whitespace deltas. You shouldn't be changing any whitespace that I know of and you need to be careful with it.
[00:10:44] <jkridner> can you put it on a public git tree?
[00:10:55] <agnel> I noticed that and I thought I took care, I might have missed some
[00:11:05] <jkridner> do you know enough about git to avoid breaking existing trees?
[00:11:21] <agnel> jkridner, hehe. I believe I do
[00:11:33] <jkridner> is your patch off of 3.0-rc1?
[00:11:56] <jkridner> k, I'm going to give you rights to write to http://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation.
[00:12:04] <agnel> oh I'm afraind it isn't. I will rebase and see if I need to make any changes
[00:12:22] <jkridner> just make new branches and never use :.
[00:12:36] <agnel> thanks, sure, I will be careful
[00:13:14] <jkridner> actually, why don't you start by making a clone?
[00:13:41] <jkridner> ie., click the clone button.
[00:14:05] <agnel> I think I already did that a long time back
[00:14:13] <agnel> yeah, I did
[00:14:26] <jkridner> oh, I should probably give you an @beagleboard.org e-mail address too.
[00:15:09] <jkridner> I don't see your username.
[00:15:24] <agnel> oh I had cloned uboot, check now?
[00:18:03] <jkridner> will check in a sec. what do you want your @beagleboard.org e-mail name to be? agnel.joel? joelf? joel?
[00:18:28] <agnel> joel@beagleboard.org would be nice, thanks.
[00:20:36] <jkridner> I didn't seen any clones that looked like an account name o fyours.
[00:21:13] <jkridner> btw, I'd avoid typing my e-mail address in this channel, as the logs are public and could well be scraped by spammers.
[00:21:48] <mru> trying to hide one's email address is futile
[00:21:56] <mru> just get a decent spam filter
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[00:23:06] <agnel> jkridner, https://gitorious.org/~joelf/beagleboard-validation/joelfs-linux
[00:23:58] <jkridner> great. I've added you just as a collaborator for now, but bug me again some time and I'll give you commiter rights.
[00:24:49] <jkridner> let me know when you've pushed your 2.6.39 patches to that repo.
[00:27:24] <agnel> jkridner, sure, thanks.
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[00:29:14] <jkridner|work> I got a "starting pid 53, tty '': '-/bin/sh'" message with the image I got from Angstrom. Koen sent me a tarball and I decided to use a recent Narcissus image to help write the tarball to the SD card.
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[05:18:34] <Akshat> Hi
[05:19:15] <Akshat> I am facing problems running QT with SGX(PowerVR) enabled on BeagleBoard
[05:19:27] <Akshat> please help
[05:22:37] <dm8tbr> you'll have to be far more verbose than that
[05:22:50] <dm8tbr> else the answer will just be RTFM
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[05:32:01] <dm8tbr> heh
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[05:33:32] <mIKEjONES> does openocd work with the beagleboard? I've read conflicting reports
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[05:46:43] <prpplague> mIKEjONES: yes
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[05:46:53] <prpplague> mIKEjONES: there is a beagle board openocd page on elinux
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[05:51:15] <Akshat> Hi can anyone help me solving this error
[05:52:05] <Akshat> could not find a suitable PVR2D pixel format
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[05:53:58] <dm8tbr> Akshat: did you try googling that message?
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[06:02:27] <Akshat> yes
[06:02:40] <Akshat> i found one post on beagle board also
[06:02:49] <Akshat> which says
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[06:03:26] <Akshat> use the sgx libs from the angstrom feeds, those fixup the pixelformat
[06:03:50] <Akshat> but i am already using open embedded recipies to compile QT with SGX
[06:04:04] <Akshat> support
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[06:10:51] <dm8tbr> check that those are up to date then
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[09:15:06] <_av500_> gm
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[09:27:01] <lyakh> koen: I've updated mplayer on 28.05, are you using that one or you downloaded it before then?
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[09:33:16] <koen> lyakh: 9a994e31db867a87133d654d5d763f86 mplayer-bayer-v2.tar.bz2
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[09:33:26] <koen> lyakh: is that the right md5sum?
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[09:35:52] <lyakh> koen: yep, that's the newest one
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[09:37:34] <koen> that's the one I built
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[09:48:57] <Ali_> Hi Guys, Does anyone have a solution to this. I am building linux kernel in eclipse and using command "make ARCH=arm menuconfig CROSS_COMPILE=/home/ubuntu/arm-2010.09/bin/arm-none-linux-gnueabi-" but I get error in eclipse saying "Error opening terminal: unknown." does anyone know how to solve this
[09:50:26] <koen> ah, the 4470 got announced
[09:50:53] <koen> Ali_: yes, don't use eclipse
[09:52:51] <Ali_> Ok, I have had enought of this eclipse crap. What IDE can i use than to have kernel source code visible to me like in "VS on windows"
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[10:01:52] <koen> why do you need an IDE?
[10:02:07] <woglinde> ccs
[10:02:13] <woglinde> *g*
[10:02:48] <woglinde> hms kernel.org is so slow again
[10:04:32] <woglinde> ls -la /devel/arm/oetmp-ang/deploy/uclibc/images/
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[10:04:34] <woglinde> args
[10:04:37] <woglinde> lol
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[10:05:40] <Ali_> to see the files in a format like VS
[10:05:59] <woglinde> which files?
[10:06:26] <woglinde> koen maybee .37 and .39 dies here because of musb again
[10:06:42] <woglinde> but I will try this later
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[10:15:28] <woglinde> koen the cgroup patch applies without problems
[10:15:33] <woglinde> so now lets compile it
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[10:31:56] <woglinde> hm hm
[10:31:59] <woglinde> windows 8
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[10:33:58] <mru> the chatter will die down in a week or two
[10:34:31] <woglinde> ?
[10:34:39] <mru> windows 8
[10:35:11] <woglinde> computex
[10:35:51] <mru> windows on arm is still just windows, but without any apps
[10:35:59] <mru> so why the excitement?
[10:36:17] <woglinde> no excitement some fear
[10:36:24] <woglinde> and concerns
[10:37:40] <mru> it's probably a good thing for arm
[10:38:46] <mru> might keep intel out of a tablet or two
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[10:41:56] <woglinde> hm they showed it even on ka-el
[10:42:53] <_av500_> kamel?
[10:43:19] <mru> tegra3
[10:43:46] <_av500_> Ali_: eclipse can be used ti view kernel source much like it can be used to view any other source code
[10:43:51] <_av500_> its an editor after all
[10:44:00] <mru> not a very good one though
[10:45:23] <_av500_> woglinde: win8 looks like a glorified screensaver on top of win7
[10:46:09] <_av500_> why people think users like to spend time in "launchers" is beyond me
[10:46:51] <mru> first they write a sluggish launcher
[10:46:58] <mru> then they gather stats on time spent there
[10:47:39] <mru> they notice users spend a lot of time in the launcher and conclude that's what they want
[10:47:45] <mru> so they make an even more bloated one
[10:47:47] <mru> repeat
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[10:48:09] <mru> and then there's the "oooh, shiny" factor
[10:48:26] <woglinde> hi crofton
[10:48:54] <woglinde> mru hm I use it for call graphs
[10:48:59] <hitlin37> so tegra 3 will be without neon too
[10:49:04] <mru> hitlin37: no
[10:49:09] <mru> t3 has neon
[10:49:25] <mru> they know they messed up on t2
[10:49:26] * _av500_ wants argon
[10:49:32] <mru> radon ftw
[10:49:47] <_av500_> on toast
[10:49:57] <mru> my mom's water has radon in it
[10:50:02] <mru> best water I've tasted
[10:50:11] <mru> (probably not due to the radon)
[10:50:14] <woglinde> *g*
[10:50:43] <mru> more to do with it coming from a local source with no additives
[10:52:21] <_av500_> xcept the radon
[10:52:31] <mru> that's not added, it's already there
[10:53:09] <mru> something to do with the local geology
[10:54:23] <jonand> mru: radon in the water is pretty safe to drink but bad to inhale the fumes while taking a shower...
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[10:54:48] <jonand> the lungs are way more sensitive to radon than your stomach
[10:54:53] <mru> yeah
[10:55:28] <jonand> personally I woulnd't want it in the water anyway.
[10:55:34] <hitlin37> mru..so for quad core..4 neon too...it says it has 12gpu
[10:55:46] <jonand> so... finally it seems like the LVDS display adapter boards will be shipped!
[10:56:44] <mru> hitlin37: neon is always one unit per core
[10:56:58] <mru> except one very early A9 test chip
[10:57:10] <hitlin37> hmmm....
[10:57:12] <mru> it had two cores but only one of them had neon
[10:57:22] <mru> they ran out of space
[10:58:14] <mru> a neon unit needs as much silicon space as the arm core
[10:58:38] <woglinde> mru lol
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[11:00:47] <jonand> I had a look at the omap5 block diagram the other day. A cortex M3 core for each A15 core. What a chip!
[11:01:19] <mru> the omap4 has an m3 per a9 too
[11:01:39] <woglinde> hi djwillis
[11:01:49] <jonand> Guess the idea is that the A15 cores can sleep while the M3 takes most of the slow housekeeping, like monitoring touch screen and so on?
[11:01:55] <jonand> oh. cool.
[11:02:21] <jonand> any idea on when the omap4 will be available as a catalog part?
[11:02:33] <mru> no
[11:02:46] <mru> the 4460 should be iirc
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[11:02:55] <woglinde> when windows8 is out
[11:02:56] <woglinde> haha
[11:02:56] <mru> or whatever they'll be calling it
[11:03:02] <jonand> I saw it in the am/dm roadmap, named AM45x, but no date though...
[11:03:30] <mru> it'll be the chip as omap4460
[11:03:35] <mru> so not before that's out
[11:03:50] <mru> shouldn't be too long
[11:04:02] <woglinde> so now lets see if the .32 boots with the cgroup stuff
[11:05:01] <jonand> my main problem with cell phone parts is the extreme miniaturization
[11:05:11] <jonand> 0.4mm ball pitch on the pmic.. :/
[11:05:19] <_av500_> same as the cpu itself
[11:05:25] <_av500_> why is that a problem?
[11:05:28] <jonand> the CUS package is 0.65
[11:05:39] <_av500_> is there an omap4 cus?
[11:05:49] <_av500_> or DIP?
[11:05:51] <mru> I guess he means the omap3
[11:05:52] <jonand> it means you have to use microvias
[11:05:58] <_av500_> jonand: indeed
[11:06:00] <Crofton|work> 40 pin dips rocked
[11:06:07] <jonand> which drives cost
[11:06:07] <Crofton|work> all those pins
[11:06:17] <_av500_> jonand: but there is no turning back the time
[11:06:37] <mru> Crofton|work: and pulling them out of a socket without bending the end pins...
[11:06:53] <mru> _av500_: travel west?
[11:07:05] <Crofton|work> heh
[11:07:10] <jonand> _av500_: if you're not a major cell phone vendor buying 100k/months it is still not possible to buy microvia pcbs for a decent pricing.. :/
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[11:07:20] <_av500_> not true
[11:07:37] <jonand> here in sweden it is even hard to get the CMs to do POP
[11:07:53] <mru> so do it in china like everybody else
[11:08:00] <_av500_> yep
[11:08:13] <jonand> china is not interested in 5k/year
[11:08:13] <_av500_> we stopped doing any prototypes in europe
[11:08:22] <_av500_> china was chaeper and faster
[11:08:29] <_av500_> jonand: i doubt that
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[11:10:24] <NotTooDumb3> av500, Hi. I am building android kernel for beagle board, i built the kernel and got uImage, but i did not find where to download u-boot source code and file system in http://code.google.com/p/rowboat/wiki/ConfigureAndBuild#Build_rootfs.. any help? thank you.
[11:10:37] <woglinde> av500 *g*
[11:10:44] <woglinde> who told him to use android?
[11:10:45] <_av500_> NotTooDumb3: i have a day off
[11:11:08] <NotTooDumb3> ok..
[11:11:13] <_av500_> and i think google added uboot to their index long time ago
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[11:12:17] <jonand> for this board spin I will use dm3730 and tps65951... both at 0.65mm pitch.
[11:12:27] <NotTooDumb3> yes uboot is there in downloads..but did not find file system
[11:12:34] <koen> jonand: the m3s on the omap5 aren't meant for housekeeping
[11:12:59] <koen> lyakh: you patched a rc2 tarball from mplayerhq, right?
[11:13:05] <jonand> but if you have any suggestions on CMs that will run POP in hundreds to a few k volume (preferably in the shanghai area) please let me know!
[11:13:21] <jonand> koen: what is their use then?
[11:14:04] <hitlin37> nottoodumb3..its there in prebuilt files
[11:14:04] <lyakh> koen: yes
[11:14:29] <hitlin37> and latest u boot too works..if u want to compile yourself
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[11:14:44] <NotTooDumb3> hitlin37, are you telling about the file system?
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[11:15:04] <NotTooDumb3> i downloaded uboot..looking for file system now
[11:15:07] <woglinde> koen have the cpuidle multikernel diffrent defconfigs?
[11:15:27] <hitlin37> file system source code or pre built?
[11:15:50] <woglinde> hm
[11:15:54] <NotTooDumb3> anything to start with
[11:15:57] <woglinde> I will find out with find
[11:15:57] <hitlin37> http://code.google.com/p/rowboat/wiki/Main?tm=6
[11:15:59] <hitlin37> start
[11:16:28] <NotTooDumb3> hitlin37, i am following that link..
[11:17:33] <hitlin37> works for me
[11:17:59] <NotTooDumb3> ok i still did not complete my process..did not find where exactly i find file system
[11:18:49] <NotTooDumb3> in this link, http://code.google.com/p/rowboat/downloads/list which is the file system? do i need to download all these files?
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[11:19:20] <woglinde> nottoodump should buy a motorboat
[11:20:05] <NotTooDumb3> and there is no file like tar -jxvf omap3evm-donut-20xx-xx-xx.tar.bz2 as mentioned in http://code.google.com/p/rowboat/wiki/UsingPreBuiltImages in the download page..
[11:20:27] <hitlin37> file system here http://software-dl.ti.com/dsps/dsps_public_sw/sdo_tii/TI_Android_DevKit/02_02_00/index_FDS.html
[11:21:16] <hitlin37> NotTooDumb3->play angry bird
[11:21:24] <woglinde> *g*
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[11:27:01] <NotTooDumb3> hitlin37, which file is filesytem in that? and is there any web page which says about the steps of bringing up andoid, is this page http://code.google.com/p/rowboat/wiki/BeagleBoard complete?
[11:28:39] <woglinde> last edited 2009
[11:28:41] <woglinde> haha
[11:29:31] <NotTooDumb3> last edited 2009 is fine but i am totally confused, it does not have steps to bring up android.
[11:30:04] <woglinde> hm ti did the same stupidity as nvidia, didnt test if the drivers compiles as module
[11:30:05] <hitlin37> NotTooDumb3.. if u download..there will b a readme file
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[11:30:48] <NotTooDumb3> download which file? all the files in that link?
[11:31:04] <hitlin37> TI_Android_FroYo_DevKit-V2.2.tar.gz
[11:33:47] <NotTooDumb3> oh..ok actually from rowboat, i downloaded the source codes and built for uImage..are these two methods completely different?
[11:34:41] <hitlin37> both generates same files..i gues
[11:35:15] <NotTooDumb3> ok thank you..i am downloading that tar file..
[11:35:40] <Crofton|work> mru, we decided the most illegal thing we could do with an e100 is spoof gps at an airport and fly an airplane into the ground
[11:36:07] <mru> don't you think they have some kind of safeguards against that?
[11:36:08] <Crofton|work> whre we defined "most illegal" as spend the most time in prison
[11:36:15] <Crofton|work> yeah
[11:36:18] <woglinde> http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/TI-Android-GingerBread-2.3-DevKit-1.0_DeveloperGuide
[11:36:22] <woglinde> hm that has all stuff
[11:36:23] <Crofton|work> obviously it would be hard
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[11:36:34] <woglinde> dont know whats to hard to follow it
[11:36:38] <Crofton|work> and maybe the people that do gps landing systems are not as smart as us
[11:36:55] <mru> like, say, a radar altimeter
[11:37:05] <Crofton|work> that is also a radio
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[11:37:10] <mru> I doubt anyone relies on gps alone
[11:37:14] <Crofton|work> we could fake the returns
[11:37:24] <mru> that would be very tricky
[11:37:52] <hitlin37> koen....2 seconds boot time is great...earlier i thought its possible only by hibernation
[11:37:57] <Crofton|work> you asked what is the most illegal thing, not what is easy :)
[11:37:59] <mru> you'd also be assuming that the pilot isn't even looking
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[11:51:11] <woglinde> hm now systemd fails on /proc/cgroups
[12:01:57] <koen> hitlin37: that's just userspace, uboot + kernel take some seconds as well
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[12:04:37] <hitlin37> hmmm.......
[12:04:39] <koen> console-image build from scratch on core2quad + sdd: 142 minutes
[12:04:59] <koen> console-image build from scratch on i7 + spinning disk in vm: 127 minutes
[12:04:59] <woglinde> koen hms
[12:05:03] <woglinde> still no sucess
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[12:05:46] <woglinde> but lunch now
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[12:08:10] <hitlin37> even android takes too much time
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[12:09:16] <hitlin37> wonders how much it will take windows 8 to boot
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[12:17:44] <ka6sox-home> koen same amount of RAM in each?
[12:23:29] <woglinde> hitlin 1ghz cpu at least
[12:24:12] <woglinde> that was the only spec confirmed
[12:24:14] <woglinde> so far
[12:26:22] <hitlin37> hmmm
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[12:28:29] <koen> ka6sox-home: 2GB in the c2q and 4gb in the vm
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[12:30:17] <ka6sox-home> koen, I'll be moar ram in the C2Q would have lowered that somewhat.
[12:32:28] <koen> ka6sox-home: I know, but I have trouble finding out which ram is single sided and which is not
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[12:32:58] <koen> ka6sox-home: crappy asus p5kpl-e mobo with strange expectations
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[12:42:47] <woglinde> tr
[12:42:50] <woglinde> ups re
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[12:45:45] <ka6sox-home> koen, do you have an LSHW printout of that machine?
[12:45:47] <koen> ka6sox-home: going to get a nice thunderbolt connected SSD when they come out to put the vm image on :)
[12:46:16] <ka6sox-home> that will be fast.
[12:48:47] <koen> ka6sox-home: vm: http://pastebin.com/0b4xvHhg
[12:48:57] <koen> ka6sox-home: server: http://pastebin.com/BEjKD3G4
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[12:53:56] <woglinde> hm hm without cgroup coredump
[12:54:12] <ka6sox-home> koen, they both are the same?
[12:54:38] <ka6sox-home> doesn't look like the bios reports density...some do.
[12:57:03] <ka6sox-home> okay, off to work...bbl
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[13:02:19] <sakoman__> koen: have you seen any NAND issues with recent kernels on OMAP3?
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[13:02:45] <sakoman__> I'm seeing reports of issues with post 2.6.34 kernels
[13:03:05] <sakoman__> specifically bad block handling seems to be broken
[13:03:34] <sakoman__> haven't yet verified this myself since the units on hand all seem to have no bad blocks!
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[13:07:02] <sakoman__> hmmm . . . interesting thread on this issue on the l-o list:
[13:07:04] <sakoman__> http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-omap@vger.kernel.org/msg33522.html
[13:07:44] <sakoman__> seems to acknowledge an issue in one of the omap2 nand driver patches, but the thread just kind of dies . . .
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[13:17:02] <koen> sakoman__: haven't really used nand, no nand on xm or tide :)
[13:17:40] <Crofton> gm
[13:17:48] <koen> hey Crofton
[13:17:50] <sakoman__> Crofton: gm
[13:18:09] <Crofton> I am about to turn on a pirate gsm base station and see who I annoy
[13:18:30] * koen raises hand
[13:18:41] <Crofton> heh
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[13:21:19] <Crofton> bother, boot gets a little stuck if no ethernet attached
[13:24:52] <DJWillis> sakoman__: I was just discussing that with Grazvydas as the state of OMAP NAND is royally shagged at the moment.
[13:25:11] <sakoman__> DJWillis: indeed
[13:25:30] <sakoman__> I am surprised that there haven't been more complaints!
[13:25:31] <DJWillis> koen: what is the performance of systemd on Angstrom like? I notice you got the distro patches mainlined and it looks good.
[13:26:41] <sakoman__> DJWillis: I'm almost ready to revert all the "improvements" to the nand driver since 2.6.34
[13:26:48] <DJWillis> sakoman__: well we (that is Grazvydas and I, I guess) have only recently sort of started hacking again in ernest recently and the OP is one of the few devices that relies on 'mainline'ish kernel' and 'NAND' ;).
[13:27:18] <sakoman__> DJWillis: Overo is in the same category
[13:27:39] <DJWillis> good point
[13:27:52] <sakoman__> but Gumstix was shipping with 2.6.34 until very recently
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[13:28:23] <sakoman__> so the problem seems to have just been noticed (and only by folks with bad blocks)
[13:29:01] <sakoman__> my systems have all good blocks so I've been blissfully unaware of the problem
[13:31:33] <DJWillis> sakoman__: I think even with Grazvydas .39 patches (I think they are mainline) on the OpenPandora NAND is 3-4 times slower in .39 (and seems to get worse towards head) than it was in .27 (that we used to ship).
[13:32:08] <sakoman__> DJWillis: yes that is another common complaint
[13:32:35] <sakoman__> I suspect the TI engineers working on nand driver only use the hwecc path
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[13:33:02] <DJWillis> sakoman__: I would think so. Fixed path and fixed tests ;).
[13:33:03] <sakoman__> since they tend to say "try hwecc" when people report issues
[13:36:42] <DJWillis> sakoman__: very true
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[13:46:13] <Crofton> oh god
[13:46:21] <Crofton> phones are camping on the e100
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[13:54:39] <woglinde> hm I will try systemd now with qemuarm
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[13:57:29] <woglinde> koen hm who is Anand
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[14:09:35] <koen> woglinde: c6000 sdk guy
[14:09:48] <koen> he works on netra (816x)
[14:11:22] <woglinde> hm ah
[14:11:32] <woglinde> saw only the two patches on the ml
[14:12:37] <koen> yes, I asked him to send the patches, I'd like other people to comment on them
[14:12:41] <koen> e.g. Eric B
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[14:29:54] <beagleboarduser> hi everyone, i am a new user for the beagleboard and am looking for resources in order to learn how to use the DSP on the BeagleBoard xM. I have looked at google, etc, but figured the experts on here would be willing to lend a hand!
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[14:31:24] <woglinde> hm ieehks elinux.org still has dspbridge
[14:31:54] <beagleboarduser> woglinde: thanks! i'll look into the website
[14:31:59] <woglinde> no
[14:32:10] <woglinde> for beagleboard use dsplink
[14:33:32] <woglinde> beagleboarduser what will you do with the dsp?
[14:34:09] <beagleboarduser> woglinde: thanks for the help. i am looking to get audio off the line in, do some basic signal processing, and send the processed audio to audio out. is the dsp the way to go?
[14:34:48] <woglinde> hm yes
[14:34:54] <woglinde> but depends
[14:35:04] <woglinde> what you will process
[14:35:23] <woglinde> take a look at gstreamer framework first
[14:35:45] <woglinde> and try out if the omap is fast enough
[14:35:53] <beagleboarduser> ok. basically, i need a way to find out the amplitude/time information of the incoming audio in
[14:36:03] <woglinde> if not next step would be to get it with dsp run
[14:36:27] <woglinde> time information?
[14:37:18] <beagleboarduser> yeah, basically i need to match the peak amplitude to the time when it occurs, but all this will be real-time
[14:38:38] <woglinde> hm okay
[14:38:49] <woglinde> you might have a look at the c6accel stuff
[14:39:05] <woglinde> I think gstreamer will not help you much in this case
[14:40:46] <beagleboarduser> thanks woglinde for the help! will the c6accel allow me to access registers directly from, say, a script or a c program? that way, i can pull in the amplitude value into the program.
[14:41:06] <woglinde> should be
[14:41:24] <woglinde> it helps you to acess the dsp for special functions
[14:41:45] <beagleboarduser> cool then!
[14:43:17] <woglinde> unfornatly the docu isnt at the best state
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[14:55:15] <beagleboarduser> woglinde: thanks again for the help!
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[14:56:32] <woglinde> hm now he is gone
[14:56:41] <woglinde> this looks like something fresh with c6accel
[14:56:44] <woglinde> http://sourceforge.net/scm/?type=svn&group_id=547072
[14:57:11] <woglinde> hm no files
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[16:21:22] <agnel> I see that gpio is being freed after getting rev in Tony's linux-omap tree
[16:21:26] <agnel> gpio_free_array(omap3_beagle_rev_gpios,ARRAY_SIZE(omap3_beagle_rev_gpios));
[16:21:53] <agnel> Is that something that went in by mistake? I remember an argument here about why not to free gpios
[16:23:01] <woglinde_> depends on the gpio
[16:23:18] <woglinde_> if there is only an led connect why not free it
[16:23:25] <agnel> the ones used for revision
[16:23:42] <woglinde_> hm ah that again
[16:23:43] <agnel> maybe ds2 could shed some light? :)
[16:24:22] <agnel> Well it seems to have gone in
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[17:25:44] <beagleboarduser> hi, my beagleboard xM, after about 10/20 mins into booting of Anstrom, becomes unresponsive...is there a way I can troubleshoot this issue?
[17:26:05] <Ceriand|work> probably
[17:26:57] <woglinde_> hm
[17:26:59] <woglinde_> didnt hear it
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[17:44:07] <koen> agnel: ther are freed so you can read them in userspace
[17:44:12] <koen> they*
[17:44:52] <agnel> koen, oh ok. :) I remember a heated discussion here about why nobody should touch them or something so was wondering
[17:45:29] * _av500_ picks a hot poker from the fire
[17:45:35] <agnel> koen, patch is ready, should I send you?
[17:48:39] <koen> yeah, don't forget to copy kridner and matt
[17:49:26] <agnel> koen, nothing on the ML about the ISP issue yet
[17:49:29] <agnel> koen, ok sure
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[17:50:41] <jkridner> I think for the revision id, it is good to free the GPIOs.
[17:51:11] <jkridner> will be interesting for someone to point out that debate.
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[17:51:57] <ds2> jkridner: ping
[17:52:33] <koen> ds2: no, you can't have more NAND on C5, we already doubled it especially for you
[17:52:44] <koen> :p
[17:52:46] <ds2> hhahahaha
[17:53:07] <ds2> koen: but can Linux see that NAND? :D
[17:53:50] <koen> uboot does, I have to try it out
[17:54:14] <koen> so I can confirm sakoman__s suspicions that the omap nand driver is broken again
[17:54:32] * koen attended a confcall with PSP that went on and on about them fixing the nand driver again
[17:54:44] <ds2> koen: is this the same P/N that was on the early xM's?
[17:55:04] <ds2> I did that once
[17:55:08] <koen> iirc not, but I'd have to ask gerald
[17:55:12] <koen> wait
[17:55:18] * koen gets some more light and a c5
[17:55:38] <ds2> I think the Linux drivers for NAND is broq on the xM's, IIRC
[17:55:42] <koen> IGA98 JW476
[17:56:08] <ds2> I don't have an early xM to compare... know if it is large page or small page like the older parts?
[17:56:48] <Russ> I didn't think the xM had accessible NAND
[17:56:52] <Russ> I thought it was SD
[17:56:59] <ds2> Russ: early xM's
[17:57:23] <koen> the part on my old xm is 9VA11 Z9LCG
[17:57:28] <koen> (P8)
[17:58:35] <ds2> guess the only way to find out is if it is large or small page part
[17:58:44] <ds2> i think i know which one it is but...
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[18:16:23] <koen> ds2: that viyasar guy emailed a few of us privately demanding we send him all the codes
[18:17:04] <ds2> koen: =)
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[18:20:42] <jkridner> ds2: I'll ping you when I'm back from the dentis.
[18:20:47] <jkridner> er, dentist.
[18:22:38] <koen> if you're t's are missing on IRC it must be really serious
[18:28:09] <joelagnel|brb> hehe
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[19:30:03] <koen> lyakh: how much work is it to use soc-camera sensors in .39 for beagle?
[19:30:33] <lyakh> koen: \infinity;)
[19:30:39] <koen> :)
[19:30:53] <lyakh> well, it's not that much work
[19:31:06] <lyakh> but if you want to do this right
[19:31:16] <koen> sergio did it for .32, not sure if the situation changed
[19:31:21] <lyakh> you have to push through a conversion path
[19:31:28] <lyakh> and _that_ is infinity:)
[19:31:40] <lyakh> no, I mean, a local hack is trivial
[19:31:46] <koen> the goal is to have all the LI sensors working with beagle
[19:31:52] <lyakh> but if you want to mainline something like that
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[19:32:05] <koen> mainline, schmainline :)
[19:32:24] <lyakh> I haven't seen any LI sensors with soc-camera drivers?
[19:32:56] <koen> mt9t111 ?
[19:33:12] <koen> mt9v113?
[19:33:18] <_av500_> koen: why not steal the cam support from WBU?
[19:33:31] <_av500_> it works for zoom3...
[19:33:38] <_av500_> or our stuff
[19:33:45] <koen> 0051-mt9t112-Migrate-from-soc_camera-to-v4l2-int-device.patch
[19:33:48] <koen> there we go :)
[19:33:54] <koen> _av500_: which sensors does that support?
[19:34:02] <lyakh> ok, forgot about mt9t111, but I don't see a mt9v113 camera?
[19:34:12] <_av500_> koen: zoom3, no idea
[19:34:20] <_av500_> ours is a 720p and a vga one
[19:34:24] <koen> _av500_: iirc that's ov something
[19:34:30] <_av500_> yes
[19:34:52] <koen> lyakh: right the v113 was something sergio did on his own
[19:34:58] <lyakh> ic:)
[19:35:49] <koen> crap
[19:36:02] <koen> googling for 'mt9v133 linux' shows me as 3rd hit
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[19:43:55] <jkridner> ds2: ping
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[19:53:09] <woglinde_> re
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[21:30:54] <veetid> I have a new Beagle Board rev C4 and cannot get it to boot from MMC
[21:31:16] <veetid> I have a 1GB and an 8GB SD card, I have formatted with the HP utility in both Fat and Fat32
[21:31:31] <veetid> I always copy the MLO file first, then in this case the ebootsd.nbo and nk.bin file to test WinCE
[21:31:31] <woglinde_> why hp utitily?
[21:31:41] <woglinde_> take the shell script
[21:31:48] <veetid> and if I hold down user and power up, I see 40W and then it loads boot loader from NAND
[21:31:53] <veetid> I'm in Windows
[21:32:20] <woglinde_> use virtualbox
[21:32:25] <_av500_> veetid: erase the nand
[21:32:35] <mru> give the nand to ds2
[21:33:09] <veetid> I can try that, but shouldn't holding the user button make it read the MLO from the SD/MMC?
[21:33:18] <veetid> and the 40W that shows up means something right?
[21:33:31] <veetid> I am worried that I will erase the NAND and then get only 40W and it will be bricked
[21:33:35] <_av500_> no
[21:33:48] <_av500_> i guess the rom code does not like your card
[21:33:56] <_av500_> and proceeds to boot from nand
[21:34:10] <veetid> ok, if I remove nand, it will still not like the card right? or will it?
[21:34:18] <_av500_> prolyl not
[21:34:25] <_av500_> probably not
[21:34:33] <_av500_> but cards can be made to be liked
[21:34:36] <veetid> can I flash the new MLO after erasing without rebooting or something?
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[21:35:00] <_av500_> i guess so
[21:35:10] <_av500_> but I have no idea, I boot from SD :)
[21:35:23] * woglinde_ boots from sd too
[21:36:14] <veetid> so you remove NAND and then you don't have to hold the user button because it will try MMC?
[21:36:20] <veetid> or do you have to hold it every time
[21:36:23] <_av500_> no
[21:36:30] <_av500_> i think not
[21:36:58] <_av500_> anyway, you cannot brick the board
[21:37:08] <thurbad> veetid, are you sure the boot partition is flagged as bootable?
[21:37:14] <_av500_> is your boot partition marked "active"?
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[21:38:24] <thurbad> if it sees a bootable MLO on nand it will try there first unless you hold the user button
[21:48:20] <veetid> I'm in Windows, and I have a 1GB and 8GB drive, I just have them formatted, should I have multiple partitions and set one as active?
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[21:51:29] <_av500_> you should have the boot partition active
[21:51:40] <_av500_> and you should have read the information about that
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[22:16:16] <woglinde_> jojo
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[22:26:35] <veetid> anyone in here run WinCE on their beagle board?
[22:27:46] <_av500_> no
[22:28:00] <_av500_> why would anybody do that
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[22:29:26] <woglinde_> hm has the ce dsp acess?
[22:30:40] <woglinde_> av500 you make free tomorrow?
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[22:33:47] <_av500_> no, i make work
[22:33:50] <_av500_> :)
[22:35:12] <woglinde_> hehe okay
[22:35:29] <woglinde_> good nite
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[23:20:45] <ds2> jkridner: pong
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[23:26:54] <ds2> anyone here going to OSCON?
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