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[03:53:34] <ds2> hmmmm
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[05:05:56] <chiques_> Hello everyone
[05:06:16] <chiques_> I need help figuring out why my BB does not output anything in minicom
[05:07:10] <chiques_> I've tested minicom with a different board I have and it seems to be set up correctly
[05:07:36] <chiques_> I hooked up my BB to a DVI monitor and all I see is an organge screen
[05:09:30] <chiques_> Any suggestions?
[05:09:36] <chiques_> Is my BB DOA?
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[05:15:42] <ds2> which BB?
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[05:47:26] <chiques_> C4
[05:47:32] <chiques_> ds2, C4
[05:48:23] <chiques_> Lights which are lit are: PWR, PMU, USR0 and USR1
[05:49:37] <ds2> have you tested your serial adapter like the SRM says?
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[05:51:10] <chiques_> I've tested as instructed on http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleboardRevC3Validation but still no signal
[06:01:48] <ds2> have you tested your serial adapter like the SRM says?
[06:01:55] <ds2> webpage != SRM
[06:05:39] <chiques_> What is SRM?
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[06:07:42] <chiques> Sorry about that
[06:08:04] <ds2> Goto beagleboard.org, look in the documentation area
[06:08:19] <ds2> there is a PDF document there. SRM == Software Reference Manual
[06:08:32] <ds2> within there, there is a section on testing your serial adapter. Try that.
[06:08:51] <chiques> OK, I'll double check to make sure it's the same information I've followed on http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners#Serial_connection
[06:09:25] <ds2> elinux.org is second hand info. read the primary docs first.
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[06:35:56] <chiques> I'm checking my pinout against the Flyswatter schematic and I don't have those connections.
[06:38:57] <chiques> I'll break my serial cable open and resolder
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[06:58:02] <James68> Hello all
[06:58:47] <James68> Any humans alive?
[07:00:14] <ds2> HUH?
[07:00:19] <ds2> did you read the SRM????
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[07:02:01] <James68> ds2 ?
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[07:19:18] <Russ> ds2, you are thinking of chiques
[07:20:32] <_av500_> ds2: go sleep
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[07:27:45] <James68> Need some help with making wl1271 work on the Beagle xM.
[07:29:36] <James68> Anyone?
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[07:35:31] <ds2> Illegal instruction @sleep
[07:36:43] <Russ> 'Original line no.: 0, new internal line no.: 21:'
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[09:14:52] <thurbad> finally got the audio codec drivers working \o/
[09:15:41] <woglinde> hehe
[09:15:57] <woglinde> what was the problem?
[09:16:11] <thurbad> James68, what's wl1271?
[09:17:57] <thurbad> the primary problem was schematics that had pin directions mislabeled, but I went and an /etc/asound.state file that was configured before the pin directions were correct
[09:18:25] <woglinde> *g*
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[09:19:20] <thurbad> so there was a mkbsp clock that was output only on the omap that should have had input enabled in u-boot
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[09:22:19] <dm8tbr> thurbad: wl1271 is a wireless chipset by TI, connected by sdio
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[09:24:25] <thurbad> I'm kind of glad we went through all the trouble of replacing the audio codec that comes on the beagle this one sounds noticeably better
[09:26:27] <thurbad> perhaps because it's not embedded in a power management ic
[09:27:25] <ds2> You can get better audio from modulating the buzz on a backlight inverter ;)
[09:27:34] <thurbad> lol
[09:28:32] <woglinde> thurbad which codec you now have?
[09:28:50] <thurbad> tlv320aic3104
[09:29:15] <woglinde> ugh
[09:29:20] <woglinde> never heard
[09:29:28] <thurbad> same one I think they use on the leaopard board
[09:29:50] <woglinde> I dont understand the audio codec stuff anyway
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[09:32:31] <dm8tbr> thurbad: I think Archos did essentially the same on recent hardware
[09:33:30] <thurbad> the nice thing is our boards are now easier to produce and should be cheaper to manufacture
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[09:35:22] <woglinde> lol
[09:35:39] <woglinde> so the sound codec is a piece of hw?
[09:35:46] <thurbad> yes
[09:36:23] <mru> it's the dac
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[09:37:15] <thurbad> codec is just short for encoder/decoder could be software or hardware
[09:37:38] <mru> you can't have a software dac
[09:38:25] <thurbad> no, but you can have software that is a codec, such as mp3 decoders
[09:38:36] <mru> but that's a very different meaning of codec
[09:39:17] <thurbad> maybe, but codec is a pretty general term
[09:39:18] <mru> the codec you're talking about is a piece of hardware that converts between spi or similar and something external, such as analogue or spdif
[09:39:31] <woglinde> gm mru
[09:39:56] <thurbad> true
[09:39:59] <mru> yes, codec is a broad term usually used to refer to one of two very different things
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[09:40:45] <mru> either it's a piece of hardware converting between different signal formats, or it's something (software or hardware) converting between digital formats such as mp3 and pcm
[09:41:05] <mru> or similar for video
[09:41:40] <mru> or anything else for that matter
[09:42:00] <woglinde> yes
[09:42:03] <mru> though audio and video are probably the most common uses of the word
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[09:43:43] <ds2> imagine the surprise of hearing about software CODECs the first time after being introduced as a one peice solution of to getting audio samples ;)
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[09:53:44] <_av500_> thurbad: aic hmm
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[10:16:40] <thurbad> beddie bye time for me
[10:18:25] <woglinde> gm av500
[10:18:31] <woglinde> av500 germany 0 points
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[11:42:10] <koen> good morning all
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[13:48:16] <wmat> morning
[14:02:29] <koen> good morning mr elinux
[14:04:48] <woglinde> gm koen
[14:07:26] <koen> hey woglinde
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[14:15:35] <woglinde> koen did you switch to udev 168 on angstroem-next?
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[14:28:04] <koen> woglinde: not officially
[14:28:12] <woglinde> 165 has memleaks
[14:28:18] <woglinde> oom on simpad
[14:28:21] <woglinde> *g*
[14:28:36] <koen> woglinde: I need to run oprofile on _git to see what's causing the 10s timeout
[14:28:57] <koen> (it used to be a 180s timeout, so it's already 18x better :))
[14:29:56] <woglinde> Collected errors: * opkg_conf_load: Could not lock /usr/lib/opkg/lock: Permission denied.
[14:30:01] <woglinde> is strange too
[14:30:07] * woglinde curses opkg
[14:30:39] <woglinde> at least uclibc is working with my patches
[14:30:54] <koen> or I figure out how to use kernelshark
[14:31:01] <woglinde> or better is working with the patches applied
[14:31:40] <koen> woglinde: I explained the uclibc/systemd situation to lennart at linuxtag
[14:31:47] <woglinde> lol
[14:32:03] <koen> he has a much better picture of what we are trying to do now
[14:32:25] <woglinde> first he should test pulse on uclibc
[14:32:33] <woglinde> to fix the space error
[14:32:40] <woglinde> in the Makefile
[14:35:35] <woglinde> koen any idea about the opkg error?
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[14:36:01] <woglinde> file has right perm and user
[14:36:02] <woglinde> -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 May 15 16:16 /usr/lib/opkg/lock
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[14:38:27] <koen> woglinde: try running opkg as root
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[14:40:14] <woglinde> lol
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[15:10:30] <koen> _av500_: https://github.com/robclark/libdce/compare/ducati-build
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[15:14:49] <_av500_> ah
[15:14:51] <_av500_> nice
[15:15:31] <sampo_v2> hi. do you guys have any leads on touchscreens compatible with beagleboards? compatible = easy to integrate, can be used with the same power source (maybe usb powered) and small as a comparable footprint
[15:15:51] <_av500_> just the ts or also lcd?
[15:16:10] * mru is at lhr again...
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[15:16:39] <sampo_v2> _av500_: ts is better, lcd is fine
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[15:57:50] <sampo_v2> does anyone know whether this screen would be easy to interface with? http://www.watterott.com/de/FriendlyARM-7-LCD-Touch-Panel
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[16:01:55] <_av500_> you need level shifters
[16:02:04] <_av500_> besides that it should be ok
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[16:05:14] <sampo_v2> _av500_: are there existing drivers or is that attached to the dvi output?
[16:05:35] <woglinde> lvds output maybee?
[16:06:03] <sampo_v2> (i'm a software guy, stuff like this is very new and strange to me)
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[16:06:30] <sampo_v2> woglinde: btw. we got openembedded working beautifully. thanks for all the help
[16:06:41] <sampo_v2> woglinde: booted on the first try!
[16:07:13] <woglinde> *g*
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[16:19:30] <sampo_v2> besides the level shifters. would i need to write custom drivers for it or would the basic oe beagle kernels automatically be able to use the screen?
[16:20:31] <woglinde> besides modeline it should work
[16:20:43] <woglinde> otherwise dvi wouldnt work
[16:25:08] <chiques> ds2, I read the SRM and it recommended http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardFAQ#Serial_connection_.231
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[16:52:00] <_av500_> sampo_v2: you only need to put the correct timing for the lcd
[16:52:09] <_av500_> thats not rocket surgery
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[16:59:01] <chiques> rocket surgery?
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[17:00:50] <dm8tbr> yes, best of both worlds: brain surgery and rocket science!
[17:04:51] <_av500_> yup
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[17:09:50] <sampo_v2> better than brain science
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[17:28:31] <chiques> nice
[17:29:31] <chiques> So this null modem thing is confusing me. Do I need if I go by the Flyswatter schematic or not?
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[17:36:40] <Rhapso> Hey, I am trying to get S-video working with angstrom. http://blog.2yb.org/2010/06/setting-up-beagleboard-miniature.html This guy did it in a line of bootargs but that does not seem to be working for me. What is the simple thing I am missing?
[17:38:19] <Rhapso> Searching says I need to patch Angstrom, but I have been following this successfully until now, so it looks like there is a way I can avoid patching in code from 2008?
[17:38:44] <_av500_> the bootargs have to match the dss driver
[17:38:50] <_av500_> they changed over time
[17:39:32] <_av500_> no patching needed with recent angstrom
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[17:42:09] <Rhapso> ok, I am using 'omapfb.mode=tv:ntsc omapdss.tvcable=composite' 'omap' is wrong?
[17:42:10] <woglinde> hm koen ping
[17:42:29] <woglinde> reminds me in actual narcissus opkg segfaults
[17:45:29] <Rhapso> looks like it should be more like 'omapdss.def_disp=tv omapfb.mode=tv:ntsc' I am running off to try
[17:45:40] <chiques> I'm reading the SRM and I'm trying to troubleshoot my terminal problems. The SRM refers to connecting J1 from the RS232 to the "J2". I just need to clarify if these J1 and J2 are not references to the actual board. J1 on the board is the 5VDC and J2 is a jumper.
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[18:05:45] <Rhapso> Confirming for S-video out on beagleboard angstrom current 'omap-dss.def_disp=tv omapfb.video_mode=640x480MR-16@60' in your bootargs works right now
[18:06:26] <woglinde> fine
[18:11:01] <Rhapso> Is there a new alternative to 'omapdss.tvcable=composite'
[18:11:27] <Rhapso> the new version does not support it nor is mentioned in the docs I can find.
[18:12:00] <Rhapso> I tried "omap-dss.tvcable=composite" in a simplistic attempt to follow the new format
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[18:16:19] <Matt_O> Rhapso, are you saying the beagle can be made to output composite instead of s-video? I'd love to hear more
[18:17:46] <Rhapso> I am converting s-video to composite right now, and the composite pins are on the board, just need some soldering
[18:18:23] <Rhapso> but you need a bootarg that is apparently no longer supported too keep it from being bad looking
[18:18:37] <Rhapso> I am looking for a way to fix that second bit
[18:19:35] <Rhapso> see http://blog.2yb.org/2010/06/setting-up-beagleboard-miniature.html
[18:19:51] <Rhapso> and http://blog.2yb.org/2010/07/video-cable-hack.html
[18:20:05] <Rhapso> I am building a revision on what he is building
[18:21:59] <ds2> holy crap...OEDIR is 73G
[18:22:10] <woglinde> ds2 *g*
[18:24:39] <koen> woglinde: opkg segfault where?
[18:24:56] <woglinde> koen when using latest narcissus
[18:25:01] <woglinde> robert tryied it
[18:25:08] <ds2> To rm_work or not to rm_work...that is the question
[18:25:10] <woglinde> and we needed to update it
[18:25:41] <woglinde> ds2 rm_work
[18:25:50] <woglinde> afterwars you can use -c build
[18:26:21] <woglinde> when you need something with sources
[18:26:41] <koen> woglinde: for what machine and release?
[18:26:51] <koen> woglinde: or do you mean it segfaults on the narcissus server?
[18:26:57] <woglinde> beagle
[18:27:02] <woglinde> no on the beagle
[18:27:28] <koen> seems to work fine with this mornings version
[18:27:39] <woglinde> hm okay
[18:27:52] <woglinde> atleast we could use opkg install foo.ipk
[18:27:57] <woglinde> to update it manually
[18:28:57] <Matt_O> Rhapso, thanks for the link to that blog
[18:29:44] <Rhapso> hmm, managed to make it worse. fiddlying with refresh might help a bit
[18:31:19] <Rhapso> You are welcome. Tis a cool project, I hope other people make them so I look less the fool walking around
[18:32:15] <Matt_O> I am in need of a composite signal so I was thinking hacking together some resistors to convert the s-video to composite (there are tutorials on the web) but this is not ideal
[18:32:20] <Matt_O> getting the BB to output composite would be better
[18:33:41] <Rhapso> essentially that is what a commercial adapter does, and that works fine. but the output is there for the taking :)
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[18:55:33] <Rhapso> well, matt it looks like composite is fuzzy unless we can find a way to fix it
[18:56:40] <Rhapso> in 2010 there was a 1 line way to fix it that was removed, that I cannot figure out how to replace
[18:57:50] <Rhapso> 'omapdss.tvcable=composite' is no longer supported :/
[18:58:14] <sakoman_> Rhapso: you probably need this patch
[18:58:16] <sakoman_> http://www.sakoman.com/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=linux-omap-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=be3d226c029c051743d3ffbcf4241de15a50bca8
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[18:59:59] <Rhapso> that looks promising. thanks!
[19:01:08] <sakoman_> Rhapso: the pre-built kernels on my site include that patch
[19:02:38] <Rhapso> thank you!
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[19:06:07] <Matt_O> sakoman_, is there some official person/group that decides which patches get "accepted" ?
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[19:06:39] <sakoman_> well, yes that would be the linux kernel mailing list
[19:07:05] <sakoman_> that patch hasn't been accepted yet
[19:07:17] <Matt_O> ah
[19:08:04] <sakoman_> and may never be, or maybe in some different form . . .
[19:11:05] <Matt_O> well that's ok.. as long as someone has figured out how to do it...
[19:11:14] <Matt_O> looks like I may eventually be building my own kernel with some of these patches :)
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[19:48:28] <chiques> Using a RS232 gender changer is not the same as using a Null Modem?
[19:49:18] <mru> no, not the same
[19:49:29] <wmat> what causes a supposed hang at "Uncompressing Linux.....done, booting the kernel." on a BB-XM (A2)? I feel like I'm missing something simple.
[19:49:38] <_av500_> ttyO2
[19:49:41] <koen> woglinde: ttyO2
[19:49:45] <koen> ehm, wmat
[19:50:36] <chiques> mru, so if I'm trying to troubleshoot as described in the SRM section 13.3.1, using a gender changer will not echo in the terminal?
[19:51:10] * mru wonders when rs232 became rocket surgery
[19:51:12] <_av500_> chiques: there are as many gender chnagers as there are 3 out 9 permutations
[19:51:21] <_av500_> out of
[19:51:27] <_av500_> the chinese will solder anything
[19:51:42] <_av500_> I have a male to female 1:1 gender changer
[19:51:51] <_av500_> or, the worlds shortest rs232 cable
[19:52:00] <Matt_O> _av500_, haha
[19:52:15] <mru> and if you take 7 of 9, you get a borg adaptor
[19:52:38] <Matt_O> chiques, gender changer can be thought of as an extension cable... the null modem adapter swaps some of the rs-232 lines internally
[19:52:42] <_av500_> mru: i prefer 6
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[19:54:43] <_av500_> chiques: all the serial stuff boils down to connecting RX and TX properly
[19:54:51] <ds2> and ground!!!!!
[19:55:30] <_av500_> ds2: i assumed that was undisputed
[19:56:45] <ds2> rain stopped, time to get some outside stuff done
[19:57:18] <chiques> _av500_, Matt_O , thanks for that insight
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[20:00:06] <djlewis> ds2: yep, I'mm trying to put in a small garden today...
[20:02:57] <koen> didn't we cover 7 of 9 at dinner last night?
[20:03:13] <mru> yes, we did
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[20:14:46] <wmat> av500, koen: the ttyO2 wasn't it, as this is a 2.6.29 kernel (don't ask).
[20:15:36] <ds2> 7of9?!
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[20:16:06] <mru> ds2: star trek
[20:16:35] <ds2> mru: yes, hence the '!'
[20:17:09] * _av500_ still prefers six
[20:17:23] <mru> six what?
[20:17:31] <ds2> it would make a good test of a 3D scanner if she wasn't so reflective so I guess that needs to go ;)
[20:17:47] <_av500_> mru: blonde
[20:17:55] <ds2> (must make it ON topic ;))
[20:18:44] <mru> _av500_: 7of9 was blonde iirc...
[20:18:50] <mru> I don't recall a 6
[20:18:59] <mru> then again, it's a while since I watched it
[20:19:17] <_av500_> mru: six is from another show
[20:19:22] <ds2> mru: was the discussion on modeling the curves with triangles? ;)
[20:19:34] <ds2> _av500_: that bubble thing will get you first!
[20:19:41] <_av500_> ds2: they talked about "covering"
[20:20:10] <mru> ds2: if you changed your nick to ds9 it might be more topical
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[20:40:40] * djlewis is presently hooked on Topal of Enterprise series :)
[20:41:11] <djlewis> another excellent 3-d subject
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[20:43:19] <emeb> anyone know anything about these: http://www.dealextreme.com/p/1080p-7-touch-screen-lcd-google-android-2-2-tablet-pc-w-wifi-hdmi-camera-tf-usb-cortex-a8-1ghz-57770
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[20:44:57] <koen> djlewis: t'pol?
[20:45:11] <mru> the vulcan
[20:45:30] <wmat> saveenv works on the XM (A2) right?
[20:45:35] <_av500_> nah
[20:45:40] <_av500_> no nand
[20:45:55] <_av500_> and nobody willing to teach uboot to save to something else
[20:46:12] <wmat> so when I do saveenv, where's it saving it to?
[20:46:18] <_av500_> thin air
[20:46:30] <wmat> heh
[20:46:31] <mru> the cloud
[20:46:41] <_av500_> emeb: a chinese craplet
[20:46:58] <emeb> _av500_: that's what it looks like.
[20:55:39] <ds2> let's all chant - we want nand we want nand....
[20:56:00] <emeb> what has nand ever done for us?
[20:56:03] <jkridner> :)
[20:56:17] <_av500_> ds2: I chant: i want 8GB emmc :)
[20:56:41] <jkridner> wmat: some of the boards do have NAND, just no guarantee. totally depends on the batch of memories.
[20:56:51] <jkridner> went multivendor on xM.
[20:57:19] <woglinde> av500 emmc? no ssd?
[20:57:21] <jkridner> u-boot seems to know how to save to SD, if configured that way, but it would mess with the formatting a bit.
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[20:57:57] <_av500_> jkridner: i bet it an save to sector 63
[20:57:59] <_av500_> +c
[20:58:35] <_av500_> woglinde: yeah, an ssd on sata 3 would do fine
[20:58:38] <ds2> just drop in an SPI memory
[20:58:55] <_av500_> ds2: one wire
[20:58:59] <woglinde> tegra has pcie lanes
[20:59:16] <_av500_> london has penny lanes
[20:59:57] <woglinde> the new plugdevice has esata
[21:04:30] <wmat> jkridner: thx
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[21:04:50] <djlewis> koen: yep, my spelling may be off.
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[21:11:11] <djlewis> Jolene K. Blalock alias, T'Pol
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[21:24:53] <jkridner> wmat: sure. forgot to @wmat it, but I assume you are talking about the tweet.
[21:25:28] <jkridner> koen: ${WORKDIR}/git isn't an actual git tree. where do I find the tree upon which I can 'git submodule update --init --recursive' ?
[21:26:24] <jkridner> wmat: oh, you might have just been talking about the NAND info. either way, you are welcome.
[21:35:34] <wmat> jkridner: thx for both!
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[22:11:51] <cwicks> goodmorning beaglers
[22:12:21] <cwicks> jkridner: my kingdom for a link to a valid part # I can buy for 5v PS for XM?
[22:12:56] <jkridner> cwicks: url coming up.
[22:13:37] * jkridner starts at http://digikey.com/beagleboard
[22:14:06] <_av500_> buy a powered usb hub
[22:14:14] <_av500_> gives you a nice 5V 2A and a hub
[22:14:18] <dm8tbr> yep, cheapter that way :)
[22:14:32] <_av500_> at least over here
[22:14:40] <jkridner> http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=993-1050-ND is good, and has international connections.
[22:14:57] <jkridner> requires you to buy the required clip.
[22:15:37] <_av500_> #so it has no connections :)
[22:15:41] <_av500_> -#
[22:18:31] <jkridner> cwicks: does the above work for you?
[22:19:15] * jkridner still attempts to add peripherals to http://www.delicious.com/tag/beagleboard+peripheral, but delicious needs a serious revamping of the UI which has been getting worse over the years, not better.
[22:19:38] <jkridner> anyone know if tmux has a scroll-back buffer? screen seems to do that much better.
[22:21:03] <cwicks> jkridner: let me see, I buy a 993-1050-ND & a US clip 993-1054-ND for a combined $19.61 each (w/o tx)
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[22:21:23] <jkridner> yeah, might not be the most economical solution.
[22:21:24] <cwicks> This is a USA need, what happened to our friend Bill's $10 solution?
[22:22:22] <jkridner> not sure why it is out of stock.
[22:22:59] <Matt_O> cwicks, there are cheaper solutions (around $5) out there but I can't seem to find the URL anymore
[22:24:09] <Matt_O> for example (no idea if this is good quality) http://cgi.ebay.com/New-DC-5V-2A-Power-Supply-AC-DC-Adapter-3-5mm-1-35mm-US-/220783147080?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3367b37848#ht_1898wt_905
[22:24:56] <jkridner> http://www.cubeternet.com/servlet/Detail?no=34 looks like the one Bill used to stock.
[22:25:30] <Matt_O> that looks like a good one
[22:25:36] <jkridner> anyone know if 3.5mm outer and 1.35mm inner is right?
[22:25:54] <Matt_O> oh.. hmm...
[22:26:06] <Matt_O> the picture makes it look like it's too small
[22:26:57] <_av500_> 2.1mm inner
[22:27:37] <_av500_> Matt_O: but yes, that is your typical usb hub power supply
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[22:28:18] <_av500_> jkridner: yours too
[22:28:34] <_av500_> 5.5mm outer
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[22:32:07] <cwicks> If anyone finds a link to a solution, please let me know - beagleship@list.ti.com I need to buy 20 of them
[22:34:06] <cwicks> thanks all, gotta go p/up the little one
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[22:43:12] <djlewis> mranostay: hi
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[23:10:26] <mranostay> hi djlewis
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