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  • [00:41:55] <beagle2> thurbad, ya, the new sd card isn't working now.... :(
  • [00:42:05] <beagle2> and is gives me a scary message when i try to ssh into it
  • [00:44:58] <beagle2> anyone help me plz...?
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  • [00:45:45] <vadmium> what's not working about your sd card? what's the scary ssh message?
  • [00:46:06] <beagle2> um, here's the pastebin:
  • [00:46:32] <beagle2> http://pastebin.com/476kL0m8
  • [00:46:40] <beagle2> the stupid thing is i know why iti s doing it
  • [00:46:52] <beagle2> it is cause i am trying to use a different sd card now than the one i originally used
  • [00:47:11] <beagle2> cause i changed the static ip on my original one and i forgot what i changed it to... :(
  • [00:47:29] <vadmium> yeah okay that's just saying the "identity" of your ssh server changed
  • [00:48:13] <vadmium> quick fix is to delete line 1 from the known_hosts file
  • [00:48:30] <vadmium> then next time you connect to that IP address it'll ask you to verify the host key again
  • [00:49:34] <beagle2> k, that makes sense, let me try it out
  • [00:49:55] <beagle2> is there a way to see the contents of root folder in my filesystem gui?
  • [00:50:01] <beagle2> it says i don't have permission,
  • [00:50:12] <beagle2> but i know the admin pass, i just don't know where to enter it...
  • [00:50:20] <vadmium> sudo?
  • [00:50:25] <beagle2> i can get to it from the terminal, but i am an old-fashion windows guy :)
  • [00:50:32] <beagle2> ya, i'll just do terminal...
  • [00:50:43] <vadmium> maybe if you know the program name of the filesystem gui, and run that with sudo
  • [00:51:34] <beagle2> aye...i'll just use sob vi for now...
  • [00:54:11] <beagle2> 'PTY allocation request failed on channel 0 shell request failed on channel 0'
  • [00:54:16] <beagle2> what that mean?
  • [00:54:22] <beagle2> it comes up when i try to ssh now
  • [00:54:26] <beagle2> it is prompting me for pass,
  • [00:54:31] <beagle2> and i am entering correct pass
  • [00:55:27] <vadmium> don't really know
  • [00:56:33] <vadmium> you could try ssh -v option which prints out lots of debug info
  • [00:57:41] <beagle2> k
  • [00:58:04] <vadmium> maybe the ssh server has got lots of features disabled or something
  • [00:58:47] <beagle2> hmmm
  • [00:59:01] <beagle2> i was just ssh-ing into this same image (on a different card) earlier today...
  • [00:59:10] <beagle2> cool, i got some additional info
  • [00:59:22] <beagle2> it looks like it took the password after all
  • [00:59:34] <vadmium> or see if there are logs from the ssh server you can check
  • [00:59:38] <beagle2> then the last line before the errors is:
  • [00:59:39] <beagle2> debug1: Sending env LANG = en_US.UTF-8
  • [00:59:57] <beagle2> hmmm, do you know where those would be located?
  • [01:00:15] <vadmium> somewhere around in /var/log/ prolly
  • [01:00:28] <beagle2> is my interfaces file in the wrong format or something?
  • [01:00:40] <beagle2> i was having trouble reading it on my other card, that why i had to remake the image...
  • [01:01:13] <vadmium> well assuming you're actually talking to the right IP address, it'd think that would be fine
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  • [01:03:20] <beagle2> yeh, i opened up this sd card on my laptop and checked out the interfaces file, it's configured the same as i reemember it being earlier today...
  • [01:03:35] <beagle2> all the info in the log file looks happy as well, i don't see any errors...
  • [01:04:09] <vadmium> do you see any indication that you were trying to log in at all though?
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  • [01:05:31] <beagle2> um...last session was today, roughly ten minutes ago...
  • [01:05:38] <beagle2> let me try again real quick and see if it shows
  • [01:05:53] <vadmium> hmm i'm afraid i'm not much help
  • [01:06:14] <beagle2> ya...it's not writing to that file any more :(
  • [01:06:30] <beagle2> it's ok, i am googling the specific error and i think i am on to something
  • [01:06:34] <vadmium> do you have serial port access or are you just shutting down the board and then looking at the filesystem
  • [01:06:41] <beagle2> i will let you know what develops
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  • [01:06:46] <beagle2> thanks for trying though :)
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  • [01:07:05] <vadmium> np
  • [01:07:12] <beagle2> am, i could have serial access...if i still had my old laptop with a serial connection on it :)
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  • [01:07:23] <beagle2> i was minicomming into the board way back when on that machine,
  • [01:07:39] <shodan45> is beableboard a suitable platform for a mini-NAS type project?
  • [01:07:58] <beagle2> then i got my hdmi cable and began to debug things directly and tossed the minicom out da window :)
  • [01:08:04] <shodan45> meaning, what kind of storage interfaces does it have?
  • [01:08:13] <vadmium> shodan45: that's one of my goals
  • [01:08:16] <beagle2> ironically, i anihilated the screen of that laptop like 2 days later :0
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  • [01:08:25] <vadmium> it doesn't have much storage on board
  • [01:08:26] <beagle2> ice + backpack + laptop = no good :(
  • [01:08:35] <vadmium> but my plan is to attach a USB hard disk
  • [01:08:42] <crazy_pete> Kindle + cat urine = no good :)
  • [01:08:48] <vadmium> lol
  • [01:08:53] <shodan45> vadmium, just USB? no sata/esata? 1394?
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  • [01:09:10] <thurbad> beagle2, that ssh warning message just means that the rsa key doesn't match stored key for the ip, it's not uncommon of a warning in your case
  • [01:09:16] <crazy_pete> All of your storage on the beagle board, iirc, is either via flash card or USB
  • [01:09:27] <vadmium> well i dunno about the newer beagle xm or whatever
  • [01:09:28] <mru> crazy_pete: maybe the cat just didn't like your taste in literature
  • [01:09:33] <shodan45> aww, well crap :/
  • [01:09:35] <crazy_pete> wasnt my kindle :)
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  • [01:10:34] <shodan45> anyone know of some other ARM-based board that does have decent storage options?
  • [01:10:49] <beagle2> thurbad: sounds about right, any idea how i fix it? :)
  • [01:10:53] <thurbad> you need to remove that entry from your ssh keys file, or you can nuke the entire file (often the easier route)
  • [01:10:56] <ds2> why doesn't every IRC client come with RTFM as a single key macro?
  • [01:11:11] <crazy_pete> ahahaha ds2
  • [01:11:59] <beagle2> i tried removing the whole file,
  • [01:12:06] <beagle2> it regenerated it but with the same error :(
  • [01:12:39] <vadmium> I thought you were getting a PTY allocation error now?
  • [01:12:39] <thurbad> just to be sure.. which file did you remove?
  • [01:12:43] <crazy_pete> the first time you log into an SSH host without matching keys you will get that warning
  • [01:13:03] <beagle2> http://pastebin.com/aZ6yqZ8d
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  • [01:13:15] <thurbad> you geet a different error on an unmatched ip, generally
  • [01:13:30] <beagle2> um, /root/.ssh/known_hosts
  • [01:13:31] <beagle2> right?
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  • [01:13:43] <crazy_pete> i didn't see his error messages (i came on at 1:02)
  • [01:13:56] <beagle2> vadmium: you are correct
  • [01:14:08] <crazy_pete> just pointing out that a non matching key is a warning you ALWAYS get the first time you match keys with a previously unmatched host
  • [01:14:15] <beagle2> i was catching thurbad up, as it is hard to keep track of the oodle of errors that follow me around ^^
  • [01:14:34] <crazy_pete> lol sorry if i was wasting your time or i was babbling, beagle2 :)
  • [01:14:49] <beagle2> crazy_pete: does a PTY error allocation error result from this?
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  • [01:14:58] <mru> wasting time is the main reason I come here at all...
  • [01:15:09] <beagle2> i think you and thurbad were on my original error, a bit of a ways back...
  • [01:15:13] <crazy_pete> no in fact i don't think i have ever seen a PTY allocation error :)
  • [01:15:22] <vadmium> i'm thinking your BB ssh server has got some settings disabled
  • [01:15:42] <beagle2> to clarify: i have now nuked my known_hosts, restarted my ssh, got it to prompt me for a pass, and now it gives me this:
  • [01:15:43] <beagle2> http://pastebin.com/aZ6yqZ8d
  • [01:15:43] <vadmium> or hang on
  • [01:16:08] <vadmium> PTYs are all on the client side right
  • [01:16:12] <thurbad> beagle you removed the known_hosts on your laptop?
  • [01:16:12] <beagle2> bah, i tell ya is the SAME image that was working correctly a few hours ago...
  • [01:16:17] <beagle2> just a different physical sd...
  • [01:16:19] <thurbad> err beagle2
  • [01:16:27] <cwicks> jkridner: are you able to talk indiana linux
  • [01:16:36] <beagle2> yes, located on my laptop's Ubuntu, not the beagle's sakoman
  • [01:17:03] <vadmium> like a PTY allocation would be the SSH client asking the linux kernel for a new pseudo tty to attach to the ssh connection
  • [01:17:13] <beagle2> it is now remade when i ran ssh, and it looks like it has a big fancy key again
  • [01:17:14] <vadmium> (I think)
  • [01:17:30] <beagle2> as in i think i am getting by that part, and the PTY shouldn't have to do with the known_hosts, i don't think...?
  • [01:17:53] <beagle2> wow, and you say you don't know what you are talking about vadium...
  • [01:18:03] <beagle2> *makes going-over-head gesture*
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  • [01:18:13] <beagle2> i broke something big-time...haven't i? :(
  • [01:18:14] <vadmium> not 100% :P but I do have some vague ideas
  • [01:18:17] <thurbad> beagle2, I would suggest not running as root on your laptop ~.~
  • [01:18:35] <beagle2> oh--erm--doh...
  • [01:18:41] <beagle2> good thought, thurbad
  • [01:18:49] <beagle2> now if i can just figure out how to make a new user....
  • [01:19:04] <thurbad> if you need to ssh to a root account use: ssh root@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
  • [01:19:04] <beagle2> and i assume running the terminal with 'sudo su -' all the time is bad as well...? :(
  • [01:19:24] <beagle2> yep, that's what i am doing thurbad
  • [01:19:24] <vadmium> beagle2: try ssh -T option, it disables the PTY/TTY allocation I think
  • [01:19:29] <thurbad> sudo su is running as the root user
  • [01:19:31] <beagle2> i am also on root account on my lap atm, tho :(
  • [01:19:36] <vadmium> might be a workaround but not fixing the real issue
  • [01:20:17] <ghoti> beagle2: `sudo su -` is generally bad form, as is `sudo -s` because it kind of defeats the benefit of sudo. Might as well just `su`.
  • [01:20:47] <beagle2> what is 'su', just signing in as super user from the start?
  • [01:20:48] <thurbad> sudo su defeats the need for the root password
  • [01:20:56] <beagle2> and blame djlewis, he showed me it :-P
  • [01:21:05] <thurbad> there's a reason that ubuntu creates a random root password :P
  • [01:21:06] <cwicks> jkridner|work we are looking for you on the call
  • [01:21:09] <mru> thurbad: sudo -s is equivalent to sudo su (more or less0
  • [01:21:13] <ghoti> beagle2: "su" is the standard unix command to "set user". By itself, it escalates your privs to root.
  • [01:21:14] <beagle2> honestly, i don't really have anything of worth on this computer atm
  • [01:21:18] <beagle2> but i agree, it is bad practice...
  • [01:21:43] <ghoti> never too early to build good habits.
  • [01:21:44] <mru> ubuntu is bad practice if you ask me
  • [01:21:44] <beagle2> i'll go make a non-root acocunt now...
  • [01:21:55] <beagle2> lmao, what do you recommend, mru?
  • [01:22:04] * ghoti uses FreeBSD
  • [01:22:06] <thurbad> it's very easy to mess up a system accidentally when you run as root.. especially when you're new to linux
  • [01:22:15] <mru> beagle2: depends on the situation
  • [01:22:24] <beagle2> vadmium: i did the ssh -T option, and it is frozen atm...
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  • [01:22:27] <mru> thurbad: it's equally easy to mess up a sudo command
  • [01:22:45] * crazy_pete wants to try freebsd, but needs another SATA disk
  • [01:22:47] <thurbad> yes, but you have to knowingly type sudo :)
  • [01:22:59] <mru> sudo, if carefully configured, can be useful for allowing certain users limited super powers
  • [01:23:10] <beagle2> i think i'd still be throwing 'sudo' in front of all my commands ... :-/
  • [01:23:15] <mru> thurbad: or unwittingly copy&paste it from some wiki
  • [01:23:33] <ghoti> crazy_pete: highly recommended. I mean, it's not geared towards being a desktop OS (though I use it as that with few complaints), and it works VERY differently from Linux, but it's very solid, and the community is extremely helpful.
  • [01:23:36] <thurbad> yeah that could be an issue :/
  • [01:23:56] <beagle2> i tell ya, i hardly touched anything on this thing...
  • [01:23:59] <ghoti> beagle2: throwing a 'sudo' in front of your commands is handy when you have to go back and figure out what you screwed up. It's all in the log!
  • [01:24:20] <ghoti> even if you're not keeping a shell history.
  • [01:24:40] <crazy_pete> basically i am looking to play with something other than linux, ghoti
  • [01:24:52] <crazy_pete> been trying to decide between FBSD and OBSD
  • [01:25:10] <beagle2> hmmm, maybe i should just get a completely fresh image from the sakoman site...?
  • [01:25:48] <thurbad> the man in the middle thing is on your laptop's side, not the beagle's
  • [01:26:16] <vadmium> beagle2: sounds like a good idea, seems like something is really screwed with your ssh
  • [01:26:36] <beagle2> thurbad: are you talking to me?
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  • [01:26:39] <vadmium> I think the man in the middle is gone now though, the PTY thing soulds like it could be beagle
  • [01:26:49] <vadmium> *sounds
  • [01:27:06] <beagle2> i am fine reinstalling Ubuntu if i have to, as well :)
  • [01:27:17] <beagle2> know that i know what i am doing, it should be easy(er)
  • [01:27:35] <beagle2> (know what i'm doing-ish*)
  • [01:28:03] <vadmium> also if you got a serial connector, it might help :)
  • [01:31:51] <thurbad> if you get a man in the middle error you're either very close to being connected, or there's another machine usingyour expected ip address
  • [01:32:31] <beagle2> well, there's only my laptop and the beagle connected to this router...
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  • [01:32:43] <thurbad> I'd say power down the beagel and try ssh again.. if yo uget a response there's something else using that ip
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  • [01:36:04] <cwicks> jkridner: checking once more to see if you have a minute
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  • [01:39:42] <beagle2> thurbad: the beagle is off now and i am getting 'no route to host'
  • [01:40:20] <thurbad> then it sounds liek your beagle is on the network, you just need to clear up the hosts issue on your laptop
  • [01:40:56] <beagle2> so...i need a fresh ubunto on my laptop as opposed to a fresh sakoman on my beagle?
  • [01:41:39] <thurbad> if you want to go that far, I'd try fixing your ~/.ssh/known_hosts file first
  • [01:42:53] <beagle2> i deleted it completely, and it repopulates it when i run a ssh command...i don't know what else i can do...
  • [01:43:04] <vadmium> I think that's fine
  • [01:43:13] <beagle2> is there something i should mess around with that happens before it gets to the known_hosts?
  • [01:43:50] <vadmium> you're not getting the scary "identity has changed" error any more right?
  • [01:44:47] <beagle2> doh, i actually am getting that original message again, vadmium :(
  • [01:44:54] <beagle2> (i just turned off the beagle and turned it back on)
  • [01:45:06] <beagle2> shall i delete known_hosts and se what happens...?
  • [01:45:19] <vadmium> delete it yeah
  • [01:45:59] <vadmium> I think maybe it might re-generate a fresh identity every time you restore your SD card; perhaps the backup image doens't have any identity
  • [01:46:52] <beagle2> hmmm, how do i check that?
  • [01:47:06] <beagle2> it is back to the PTY thing, now that it repopulated the known_hosts :)
  • [01:47:14] <vadmium> that's just me guessing at an explanation
  • [01:47:21] <beagle2> aye.
  • [01:47:46] <beagle2> i mean, i dd'd my original card, that was working, in order to get this backup image
  • [01:48:03] <beagle2> shouldn't that be a bit-for-bit clone of what i had working before...?
  • [01:48:13] <vadmium> yeah it should
  • [01:48:24] <vadmium> was that after you had booted the beagle with the card though?
  • [01:48:58] <beagle2> ummm, i dd'd my orignal card's image onto my harddrive,
  • [01:49:11] <beagle2> then i booted the card and ssh'd into it successfully for a while,
  • [01:49:40] <beagle2> then i realized i couldn't get internet on it, so the ONLY thing (i think) that i changed was the static ip settings in interfaces file,
  • [01:49:53] <beagle2> then i discovered ssh didn't work anymore and was sad,
  • [01:50:29] <beagle2> so i used that image on my harddrive to dd the image onto my other sd,
  • [01:50:33] <beagle2> and here we are.
  • [01:50:49] <vadmium> ok
  • [01:51:02] <beagle2> this is sooo frustrating, it's taken me WAY longer to get this going than i had wanted it to...
  • [01:51:51] <beagle2> man, this mksdcard.sh script is taking way longer than i remember it taking...
  • [01:52:21] <thurbad> everything takes longer when you aren't getting the results you expect :/
  • [01:52:37] <beagle2> :'(
  • [01:53:04] <beagle2> on the hardware side of things, i switched around my setup so the adapter is using the echi instead of the otg,
  • [01:53:17] <beagle2> but i think i got it ssh-ing properly after i made that change...
  • [01:53:27] <beagle2> should i put it back to the otg?
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  • [01:53:49] <thurbad> you could try that... if you had it working before
  • [01:53:52] <beagle2> it doesn't seem to get enough power through the otg directly, and so i have to connect a powered hub in between, was my motivation for rearranging...
  • [01:54:08] <vadmium> yeah i'd say put everything you can think of back to when you had SSH working :)
  • [01:54:45] <thurbad> you don't have a direct login to your beagle at the moment?
  • [01:55:29] <thurbad> do you have a serial cable for it?
  • [01:55:33] <vadmium> also have you considered maybe your hard drive backup image is bad
  • [01:55:48] <beagle2> ...
  • [01:56:25] <vadmium> as in try recreating the original sd card rather than copying from your image of the original :)
  • [01:56:37] <vadmium> can't remember if you already tried that
  • [01:56:53] <jkridner|work> cwicks: want to join #indianalinuxfest?
  • [01:57:07] <thurbad> if you were able to ssh in but had "no internet" likely you were connected but didn't have dns configured
  • [01:57:10] <ds2> arrrg. flex cables that do not flex sucks
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  • [02:19:45] <beagle2> hey, this is beagle2
  • [02:19:50] <beagle2> oh, same sn...odd...
  • [02:20:05] <beagle2> anyways,
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  • [02:21:52] <beagle2610> anyone there?
  • [02:22:03] <beagle2610> did i spam the chan too much or something? i just got kicked...
  • [02:22:23] <crazy_pete> huh?
  • [02:22:28] <crazy_pete> you weren't bothering me! :)
  • [02:22:34] <beagle2610> meh,
  • [02:23:24] <mru> networks have glitches, nothing personal
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  • [02:25:02] <beagle2> k, i think i fixed the problem at last...
  • [02:25:29] <beagle2> is there a way to ssh in to the beagle when it has a dynamic ip?
  • [02:25:48] <mru> guess the ip
  • [02:25:59] <beagle2> we are not amused.
  • [02:26:20] <beagle2> hmm, does anyone know how long the fresh sakoman image should take to boot up first time?
  • [02:26:21] <vadmium> can you look in your dhcp server to see the IP allocated?
  • [02:26:29] <buZz> nmap -p 22 yournetworkip/24
  • [02:26:31] <buZz> ;)
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  • [02:26:47] <buZz> you could add -T Insane if you're impatient
  • [02:26:48] <thurbad> look up the dhcp list in your router
  • [02:26:49] <beagle2> i got past the loading bar, andn ow have a black screen...
  • [02:27:01] <beagle2> dhcp list, going...
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  • [02:31:15] <beagle2087> hmmm i am hainvg issues accessing my router...
  • [02:31:21] <thurbad> generally it would be somewhere under status, lan, dhcp clients or something along those lines
  • [02:31:38] <beagle2087> i don't see a gateway when i do 'ipconfig' on my ethernet...
  • [02:31:51] <thurbad> what's ifconfig tell you about eth0?
  • [02:31:51] <beagle2087> should i have the outside network plugged into my router or not?
  • [02:32:03] <beagle2087> cause i get an ip for the router if i have it plugged in, but it is a weird one...
  • [02:32:21] <beagle2087> thurbad: i am on a windows machine right now,
  • [02:32:22] <thurbad> outside only matters if you want to connect to the internet on it
  • [02:32:25] <thurbad> ah
  • [02:32:27] <beagle2087> so iPconfig tells me:
  • [02:32:38] <thurbad> pastebin it
  • [02:33:36] <ds2> get a network admin
  • [02:35:56] <beagle2087> omg...is there no way to paste text from the Win command prommpt? lol
  • [02:36:11] <beagle2087> copy text*
  • [02:36:12] <mru> sure is
  • [02:36:33] * mru recommends enabling quickedit or whatever that option was called
  • [02:36:41] <mru> allows simple drag-select
  • [02:36:48] <mru> instead of the contorted 5-step process
  • [02:37:01] <thurbad> you need to mark the text first if you don't have quickedit active
  • [02:37:03] <JErk> you can right-click the window, select "Mark", then click and drag
  • [02:37:08] <JErk> in a windows ocmmand prompt
  • [02:37:25] <mru> or enable quickedit and skip direclty to click&drag
  • [02:37:37] <thurbad> or, you could just redirect the output to a temp file
  • [02:37:42] <beagle2087> thanks, JErk
  • [02:37:44] <mru> and right-click to paste iirc
  • [02:37:51] <beagle2087> i got it, i got it
  • [02:37:53] <beagle2087> thanks all
  • [02:37:54] <beagle2087> http://pastebin.com/jS1siH9t
  • [02:37:57] <beagle2087> there it is
  • [02:37:57] <thurbad> heh
  • [02:37:58] <mru> the better solution is to use a real terminal emulator
  • [02:38:01] <mru> xterm or so
  • [02:38:09] <beagle2087> no ip on the gateway, for some odd reason...
  • [02:38:26] <beagle2087> aaaand now my fresh sakoman image isn't booting up
  • [02:38:27] <beagle2087> great.
  • [02:38:31] <beagle2087> juuust great...
  • [02:38:40] <mru> that's a link-local address on the wired eth
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  • [02:39:17] <thurbad> looks like you're hopping through more than one router to get to the internet
  • [02:39:35] <mru> the wireless looks sane
  • [02:39:52] <beagle2087> thurbad and mru: the router is not connected to the internet atm, only lan
  • [02:40:05] <beagle2087> shall i connect it and refreash?
  • [02:40:11] <JErk> That's only one router
  • [02:40:18] <JErk> note the mask of 255.255.254.0
  • [02:40:21] <beagle2087> is gives me an ip, but a weird one when i do that...
  • [02:40:22] <JErk> large subnet
  • [02:40:42] <thurbad> ah, ok
  • [02:40:54] <beagle2087> my ethernet has mask 255.255.0.0...is that bad?
  • [02:41:00] <mru> pretty standard NAT network with more than 254 clients
  • [02:41:14] <mru> beagle2087: your wired connection has a link-local address
  • [02:41:18] <JErk> it looks like your wired ethernet isn't up
  • [02:41:23] <mru> unless you know what that means, it's a bad thing
  • [02:41:28] <JErk> that 169.254.* address is a Windows auto-assigned address
  • [02:41:37] <jkridner|work> anyone going to Indiana Linuxfest this weekend?
  • [02:41:38] <JErk> your wireless does indeed look sane thougj
  • [02:41:39] <beagle2087> as in it isn't connected to the internet?
  • [02:41:40] <mru> yes, link-local
  • [02:41:58] <beagle2087> shall i connect it and see if that makes things better?
  • [02:42:16] <mru> a link-local address can be used for a point-to-point link between two machines
  • [02:42:20] <JErk> probably not -- having one computer acting as two nodes on a network will just make it confusing
  • [02:42:32] <JErk> if you've got your wireless up, that should be good enough
  • [02:42:46] <mru> JErk: nah, I have one here with 3 IP addresses
  • [02:42:47] <beagle2087> k, so you reccomend i pipe the internet to by bb via the usb?
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  • [02:43:02] <JErk> mru: I meant it will make helping him confusing
  • [02:43:09] <beagle2087> :)
  • [02:43:10] <mru> that it will
  • [02:43:23] <beagle2087> i think i am in over my head...
  • [02:43:42] <beagle2087> and i have no idea why my sakoman install isn't booting up directly anymore...
  • [02:43:56] * mru sticks beagle2087's head on a pole and pokes it above the surface
  • [02:44:18] <beagle2087> i think i'm going to have to go back to minicomming to it, if i can find a computer with a serial port now...
  • [02:45:08] <beagle2087> so...any last thoughts guys, before i turn in for the night?
  • [02:45:20] <thurbad> what address are you trying to connect to to get to the router?
  • [02:45:25] <beagle2087> on either why i can't boot up directly to the beagleboard, and/or why i can't see my router?
  • [02:45:42] <beagle2087> um, i was told that 192.168.0.1 should work...
  • [02:45:57] <beagle2087> but like i said, it had something weird like 10.91.1.254 before...
  • [02:46:08] <beagle2087> i tried them both in my browser, to no success...
  • [02:46:20] <JErk> All you're trying to do is get to the web interface for your router?
  • [02:46:27] <thurbad> is your wireless turned on at the moment?
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  • [02:46:36] <thurbad> at the moment, yes.. baby steps
  • [02:46:41] <beagle2087> yes, i have wireless, hence why i am able to talk to you guys :)
  • [02:46:57] <JErk> http://192.168.2.1 doesn't do it for ya?
  • [02:46:59] <beagle2087> JErk: if i can get to the point where i can see my router's setting tonight, i shall be a happy bear.
  • [02:47:01] <thurbad> ok then use the address it lists for your gateway
  • [02:47:38] <thurbad> which as JErk noted is 192.18.2.1
  • [02:47:39] <beagle2087> JErk: nope, it instantly comes up with 'cannot display webpage'
  • [02:48:01] <beagle2087> 192.168.2.1* right?
  • [02:48:06] <thurbad> yes
  • [02:48:07] <JErk> Maybe it's running on a nonstandard web port
  • [02:48:08] <JErk> Can you ping 192.168.2.1 and get a response?
  • [02:48:34] <cwicks> jkridner: yes i will join
  • [02:48:35] <beagle2087> aye, pinging works
  • [02:48:40] <beagle2087> 1 - 2ms
  • [02:48:59] <thurbad> did you try https://192.168.2.1 ?
  • [02:49:02] <JErk> Use nmap to find out what port the web interface is on
  • [02:49:19] <beagle2087> thurbad: yes, it comes back instantly with 'cannot connect to webpage' :(
  • [02:49:29] <thurbad> he's on a windows machine at the moment
  • [02:49:36] <beagle2087> do i type nmap in the command prompt?
  • [02:49:43] <JErk> forget the nmap thing, not an option
  • [02:49:47] <beagle2087> i can reboot to Ubuntu real quick if it'll help....
  • [02:49:49] <JErk> I guess there's also a slim chance that the router's configured to accept http requests only from a certain local address
  • [02:49:56] <beagle2087> to be honest, i am getting more comfortable on Ubuntu anyway :)
  • [02:50:01] <JErk> Ubuntu will work
  • [02:50:04] <JErk> though you might have to install nmap[
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  • [02:50:17] <beagle2087> i am willing to do whatever
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  • [02:50:25] <beagle2087> brb on Ubuntu guys, thanks for the patience...
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  • [02:50:46] <JErk> In the meantime, who wants to help me get my Beagleboard Xm Rev6 up and running?
  • [02:51:07] <JErk> I've prepped an SD card per the wiki on elinux.org but am not getting any visual from either the HDMI or the S-Video
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  • [02:51:26] <JErk> I don't currently have a way to talk to it via serial ... the cables are in the mail
  • [02:51:36] <thurbad> how far is it getting on the serial console?
  • [02:51:40] <thurbad> ... n/m
  • [02:51:50] <mru> to memphis
  • [02:52:42] <thurbad> you set the partition with u-boot with the bootable flag?
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  • [02:53:02] <JErk> I used the "mkcard.txt" script provided instead of doing it manually
  • [02:53:02] <beagle2> i'm baaaack
  • [02:53:05] <beagle2> (on Ubuntu)
  • [02:53:26] <beagle2> JErk: i used 'mksdcard.sh' provided on sakoman's site
  • [02:53:40] <beagle2> which 'should' have been the same way i did it successfully the first time....
  • [02:53:53] <beagle2> now i am not getting crap on boting up this sd card though...
  • [02:53:55] <beagle2> anyways...
  • [02:53:58] <beagle2> one problem at a time
  • [02:54:06] <beagle2> so, what was the command to fix my router?
  • [02:54:09] <JErk> beagle2: try 'nmap 192.168.2.1'
  • [02:54:13] <mru> the ghost of sector 63 never dies
  • [02:54:50] <thurbad> check in gparted or something else, not sure if mkcard does that, as it wasn't needed in C4 (or at least I didn't always have to do it and got it to boot)
  • [02:55:13] <beagle2> JErk: you were right it doesn't come installed :(
  • [02:55:13] <JErk> fdisk reports the first partition as bootable
  • [02:55:20] <JErk> beagle2: sudo apt-get install nmap
  • [02:55:43] <beagle2> working...i'm not a total newb :)
  • [02:55:45] <JErk> fdisk also reports the filesystem as W95 FAT32(LBA) ????
  • [02:55:53] <mru> the partition type does not matter
  • [02:55:56] <JErk> alright
  • [02:55:59] <mru> but it must be bootable
  • [02:56:04] <JErk> It is indeed bootable
  • [02:56:10] <thurbad> that soundsd right JErk
  • [02:56:51] <thurbad> do you still have the validation image?
  • [02:57:04] <JErk> Which file would that be?
  • [02:57:05] <beagle2> JErk: here is the paste of nmap: http://pastebin.com/XeiXrqPC
  • [02:57:19] <thurbad> it's the sd card that should have come with the xM
  • [02:57:35] <JErk> I have the card and the files that were on it, yes
  • [02:58:58] <JErk> beagle2: nothing there looks like a web interface to me. The machine with address 192.168.2.1 may in fact be a windows computer, based on the netbios port 139 there.
  • [02:59:15] <JErk> Are you connected via Windows' Internet Connection Sharing, perhaps?
  • [02:59:29] <beagle2> ummm, i am connected over wireless,
  • [02:59:36] <beagle2> and am now on Ubuntu..
  • [02:59:37] <JErk> ... though that wouldn't explain the ftp / ssh and smtp servers
  • [02:59:48] <beagle2> ooo, let me try ifconfig, now that i'm on Ubuntu
  • [02:59:56] <JErk> Right, I mean connected to the Internet through another computer on the network, running Windows
  • [03:00:11] <beagle2> um--i could be
  • [03:00:12] <JErk> "internet connection sharing" is Microsoft's term for running a NAT, basically
  • [03:00:22] <beagle2> i assume it is some sort of server on the next hope...here on campus...
  • [03:00:28] <thurbad> JErk I use the MLO and uboot that came on that card, you may want to double check your boot.scr
  • [03:00:43] <JErk> Oh, beagle2, are you on campus internet or something?
  • [03:00:47] <thurbad> the wireless is your router?
  • [03:00:52] <vadmium> er, on campus eh
  • [03:00:54] <thurbad> or campus router?
  • [03:00:58] <beagle2> nooo, i disabled wireless on my router
  • [03:01:02] <beagle2> so they can't find me :)
  • [03:01:05] <thurbad> eep, ok
  • [03:01:12] <beagle2> but yes, i am on the campus's engineering wireless atm
  • [03:01:22] <vadmium> not sure you'll have so much luck getting dhcp info from that
  • [03:01:32] <JErk> you're going to have a hard time getting into your campus network admin area
  • [03:01:41] <JErk> I assumed you were using your own router
  • [03:01:42] <thurbad> then nevermind, you won't be able to connect to their router's web interface
  • [03:02:05] <beagle2> i AM using my own router, for a LAN
  • [03:02:16] <beagle2> it just has my computer and the beagle connected to it
  • [03:02:24] <vadmium> is it a router or just a switch though?
  • [03:02:32] <beagle2> no line in from the campus's wired network or anything
  • [03:02:33] <vadmium> where does your dhcp address come from?
  • [03:02:45] <beagle2> but ya, you prob right that that was the scholl's wireless router :)
  • [03:03:00] <beagle2> um, it a router, that i think has dhcp disabled and wireless disabled
  • [03:03:12] <beagle2> i THINK those are the two things my dad talked me through doing, when i got it out-of-box...
  • [03:03:23] <beagle2> http://pastebin.com/XgpinSZB
  • [03:03:34] <beagle2> there's what my network looks like now, on Ubuntu
  • [03:04:05] <beagle2> vadmium: i assume my dhcp comes from the campus, via the wireless i am connected to...?
  • [03:04:19] <beagle2> like i said, i only know a tiny bit about networks...
  • [03:04:29] <vadmium> yeah
  • [03:05:09] <beagle2> hehe, this is quite an odd conundrum, on the beagle's side:
  • [03:05:11] <thurbad> do you have just the one machine?
  • [03:05:21] <beagle2> so i am booting to an old sd image (i lost track of which it is now)
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  • [03:05:31] <beagle2> and it loads the pretty sakoman progress bar,
  • [03:05:44] <beagle2> then finishes and comes up with the ANGSTROM ascii art...
  • [03:05:56] <beagle2> i can gaurantee you i have not used anything Angstrom in weeks now...
  • [03:06:32] <beagle2> thurbad: yes, i just have my one laptop and the beagle
  • [03:06:39] <beagle2> the lap has win 7/Ubuntu dual-boot
  • [03:06:43] <vadmium> gah and it doesn't print any IP addresses out for you :P
  • [03:06:48] <beagle2> there are wireed computers, here in lab though...
  • [03:06:56] <beagle2> ya, it sucks don't it?
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  • [03:07:20] <vadmium> I'm not sure if that 192.168.3.63/23 network (used by ubuntu) is assigned to your personal router, or is it part of the campus network and your "router" isn't actually doing any routing
  • [03:07:27] <beagle2> should i try plugging the campus's wired internet into my router...?
  • [03:07:50] <beagle2> what is eth1 anyways?
  • [03:07:58] <JErk> eth1 is linux's name for your wireless adapter
  • [03:08:15] <JErk> you're just trying to talk to your beagleboard from a "real" computer, right?
  • [03:08:20] <vadmium> ah ok so you have eth0=wired, eth1=wireless right?
  • [03:08:21] <beagle2> ah, kk
  • [03:08:23] <JErk> and you need to know the IP of the beagle?
  • [03:08:28] <beagle2> um, i think it is real...
  • [03:08:31] <JErk> lol
  • [03:08:37] <beagle2> yes, that is why i had it set to a static ip
  • [03:08:43] <beagle2> i am trying to ssh into it, specifically
  • [03:08:49] <beagle2> i had it working and everything...:(
  • [03:08:58] <JErk> so the beagleboard is set up with a static address right now?
  • [03:09:10] <beagle2> vadmium: i believe that to be the case...
  • [03:09:30] <beagle2> nooo cause i corrupted that image
  • [03:09:48] <beagle2> i can get it back though, cause i saved a copy of it on my harddrive...
  • [03:09:51] <JErk> so the beagleboard is getting a dynamic IP via DHCP?
  • [03:10:08] <vadmium> ok so BB is using DHCP, and connected to your personal "router", which is connected to campus network?
  • [03:10:18] <beagle2> ya, i believe so, essentially it is whatever the original sakoman image comes defaulted to
  • [03:10:18] <thurbad> I would disconnect from everything but the router, leave the router unplugged from the internet, and check the ip that it uses for a gateway, then connect to that to check the dhcp table
  • [03:10:24] <beagle2> as i can't access it directly to change it...
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  • [03:10:40] <thurbad> can yo uconnect to irc through any of the lab machines?
  • [03:10:50] <vadmium> lol this is complicated
  • [03:10:52] <beagle2> sure, gimme one sec
  • [03:10:56] <beagle2> i hear ya...
  • [03:11:20] <thurbad> yeah, not exactly an rtfm issue anymore :)
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  • [03:11:57] <beagle2_> k, so disconnect EVERYTHING from my laptop?
  • [03:12:02] <beagle2_> as in tun off the wireless?
  • [03:12:53] <thurbad> yes
  • [03:13:03] <thurbad> leave it connected to the router though
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  • [03:13:22] <beagle2_> ok, now what?
  • [03:14:15] <JErk> ultimately what you want is your beagleboard connected to your router, and another computer connected to your router
  • [03:14:19] <JErk> the router does not need to have internet access
  • [03:14:29] <thurbad> correct
  • [03:14:53] <vadmium> um I think he got that working with a static IP
  • [03:15:04] <vadmium> *I* thought he wanted BB to have internet access
  • [03:15:09] <thurbad> do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
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  • [03:15:28] <thurbad> eventually yes, but he wants to find the address of the beagleboard first
  • [03:15:32] <JErk> exactly
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  • [03:15:57] <vadmium> ok
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  • [03:16:15] <JErk> thurbad: So you're suggesting I re-copy the MLO, u-boot.bin and uImage to the bootable partition of my SD card?
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  • [03:16:20] <thurbad> the check ifconfig eth0
  • [03:16:39] <beagle2_> i dont see any IP
  • [03:17:01] <JErk> Make sure the router you're connected to is set up to act as a DHCP server
  • [03:17:19] <JErk> Otherwise it won't hand out any IP addresses to your computer or to the BB
  • [03:17:25] <thurbad> hmmmm, he /may/ have turned dhcp off ~.~
  • [03:17:33] <vadmium> I suspect your "router" may not be doing any routing or have its own subnet
  • [03:17:47] <JErk> yeah. if that's the case, I'd suggest doing a factory reset on the router you're using
  • [03:18:05] <JErk> otherwise you may never "find" it again
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  • [03:18:39] <beagle2_> im gonna try thr factoyr reset
  • [03:19:09] <vadmium> hmm you probably wanna be careful plugging it into the campus network though
  • [03:19:25] <vadmium> especially after reset
  • [03:19:39] <JErk> For fear of handing out IP addresses to others on the campus netwrok?
  • [03:20:01] <vadmium> yeah all that sort of stuff
  • [03:20:08] <thurbad> possibly handing out wireless connections to torrenters
  • [03:20:16] <JErk> Should be fine as logn as you don't plug the cable from the wall into the LAN port
  • [03:20:22] <beagle2_> i hit the reset, should i see anything differnt?
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  • [03:20:27] <thurbad> that could get him kicked off real quick on some campuses
  • [03:20:30] <JErk> you might have to HOLD the reset button for several seconds.
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  • [03:20:48] <JErk> just pressing the reset button will likely only power cycle it -- not reset all the settings
  • [03:20:57] <beagle2_> i think the wireless is back on the router now
  • [03:21:13] <thurbad> that's fine, as long as they cant get anywhere
  • [03:21:14] <JErk> okay, see if the computer you have connected to it is getting an IP address now
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  • [03:23:43] <JErk> okay, I think I figured out my own problem. I may be severely retarded. :(
  • [03:24:10] <beagle2_> jerk: not as much as me...
  • [03:24:22] <beagle2_> i am still not seeing an IP adress
  • [03:24:32] <JErk> but you think the wireless got re-enabled?
  • [03:24:40] <beagle2_> however i see how to log onto the router from the label on the back
  • [03:25:11] <thurbad> if you're not connected to it you won't be able to do so
  • [03:25:14] <beagle2_> wireless is off now
  • [03:25:39] <beagle2_> do i want to be connected to the wireless?
  • [03:26:11] <thurbad> is the wireless showing up?
  • [03:26:57] <beagle2_> theres a light on the fron of the router that is lighting up. i can disable it
  • [03:27:04] <thurbad> if the wireless for the router is showing up, try it
  • [03:27:20] <beagle2_> as in try going on internet?
  • [03:27:44] <thurbad> no, try connecting to the router, it shouldn't be connected to the internet
  • [03:28:43] <beagle2_> i can not connect to the router
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  • [03:29:13] <thurbad> ok, try the reset again, it will sometimes take 10 seconds for a factory reset
  • [03:29:34] <thurbad> you may need to power it down first too
  • [03:30:15] <beagle2_> so hold the reset button for 10 sec with the power off?
  • [03:30:19] <JErk> right
  • [03:30:20] <thurbad> yes
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  • [03:31:03] <JErk> Can someone explain the importance of this? "(IMPORTANT: You must untar directly onto the SD card. Do not untar somewhere else and then copy to the SD)"
  • [03:31:13] <JErk> Why is that necessary?
  • [03:31:34] <thurbad> probably in order to maintain the integrity of symlinks
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  • [03:32:43] <beagle2_> still cant log into the router
  • [03:33:09] <thurbad> did you try restarting you networking on your laptop?
  • [03:33:18] <JErk> sudo dhclient3 eth*
  • [03:33:59] <beagle2_> how do i do that?
  • [03:34:29] <thurbad> you can try what JErk just posted
  • [03:34:49] <JErk> alternatively, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart (I think)
  • [03:34:52] <thurbad> or: ifdown eth0; ifup eth0
  • [03:35:12] <thurbad> or the thrid way that JErk just posted
  • [03:35:54] <thurbad> personally I'd go with restarting the service entirely
  • [03:36:48] <beagle2_> can i just restrt ubuntu?
  • [03:37:06] <thurbad> sure, it'll take a lot longer
  • [03:37:16] <beagle2_> i trie u/down and it says 'interface eth0 not confugured"
  • [03:37:24] <beagle2_> up/down*
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  • [03:38:04] <thurbad> what does ifconfig eth0 currently say?
  • [03:39:40] <thurbad> it's possible that it's not configured in interfaces and is controlled by the networkmanager... which is icky
  • [03:40:41] <beagle2_> http://pastebin.com/ns0gT70F
  • [03:41:05] <beagle2_> should i check my interfaces?
  • [03:41:05] <JErk> Looks like it's still not getting an IP address
  • [03:41:56] <thurbad> or he's getting an ipv6 only address?
  • [03:41:58] <JErk> unless... unless that's actually a valid IPv6 address and your router is configured to hand those out
  • [03:42:09] <JErk> which seems unlikely but possible, I guess
  • [03:42:17] <JErk> more unlikely than possible
  • [03:42:25] <beagle2_> the only thing defined in interfaces is "lo"
  • [03:42:34] <thurbad> it's possible on newer routers
  • [03:42:45] <JErk> with factory defaults?
  • [03:43:03] <beagle2_> its a netgear, i bouth 2 months ago
  • [03:43:06] <beagle2_> *bought
  • [03:43:15] <JErk> well, I guess I wouldn't rule it out
  • [03:43:41] <JErk> But what do the instructions say on the router's label? Do they say to go to http 192.168.0.1 or something similar?
  • [03:44:20] <beagle2_> they say go to http://www.routerlogin.net and that doent work either
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  • [03:44:47] <beagle2_> should i unplug the beagle board while im doing all this?
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  • [03:44:53] <JErk> Shouldnt' make a difference
  • [03:44:53] <thurbad> nah
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  • [03:45:15] <JErk> Well, my guess right now is that the router still isn't fully reset to defaults. Or, the cable you're using is bad.
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  • [03:46:23] <beagle2_> tried another cable, still nothing
  • [03:46:39] <JErk> I don't know what else might be wrong. You should be able to get an IP address when plugged into that router, and you're not.
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  • [03:47:17] <thurbad> do you know how to edit the settings in network manager?
  • [03:47:53] <beagle2_> no, but, thanks you guys have been great. im getting sleepy, im gonna head out. i'll be back tomorrow
  • [03:48:04] <thurbad> ok, g'night
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  • [03:50:19] <John_____> I am trying to boot my BB C4 with ubuntu 10.10 from SD card, and it succesffuly booted, but my mouse and keyboard don't work, which I cannot login to the system
  • [03:50:47] <John_____> via a serial, I got the following http://pastebin.com/EYsmk907
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  • [03:51:30] <John_____> it seems like it is still running because it does not return to ....#
  • [03:51:40] <thurbad> can you log in on the serial port?
  • [03:51:48] <John_____> no
  • [03:51:57] <John_____> [ OK ]bling additional executable binary formats binfmt-support
  • [03:52:03] <ds2> it has not finish booting
  • [03:52:03] <John_____> this is the last line
  • [03:52:15] <John_____> really?
  • [03:52:24] <John_____> does it take a long time for first boot?
  • [03:53:39] <thurbad> ubuntu can take a long time on the first boot from what I've heard, especially on a slow card
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  • [03:54:21] <John_____> i see, so if I let it sit here overnight, next morning I should be able to see the login part at serial port?
  • [03:54:56] <John_____> i just hope that my mouse and keyboard will work
  • [03:56:43] <John_____> thurbad, one question, if it is not finish booting, then why would I see the Ubuntu 10.10 screen from my BB C4?
  • [03:57:06] <John_____> it shows Ubuntu 10.10 and asks me to enter Username
  • [03:57:14] <John_____> the background is like purple
  • [03:58:42] <ds2> it could be hung
  • [03:58:49] <thurbad> hmm, not sure.. you can try unplugging/replugging the keyboard and see if hitting numlock does anything
  • [03:59:42] <thurbad> are the heartbeat lights still blinking?
  • [04:00:52] <John_____> yes, the heartbeat LED is still blinking while the other LED next to it is not lit
  • [04:00:54] <ds2> could just be ubuntu is broq ;)
  • [04:01:20] <John_____> i followed the instruction from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAPMaverickInstall
  • [04:02:15] <John_____> and i stopped at BOOTING THE IMAGE section, because my board is C4 and I don't know if it applies to me
  • [04:03:07] <John_____> does anyone know a good site that has tutorial for installing UBUNTU into an SD card and making it bootable?
  • [04:03:48] <thurbad> did you follow the instructions at the bottom for older systems?
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  • [04:05:09] <John_____> thurbad, i did $ cd /media/6B57-ED78 $ wget http://people.canonical.com/~rsalveti/maverick/xM/uImage -O uImage
  • [04:05:15] <jkridner|work> ds2: any luck applying to maker faire?
  • [04:05:54] <John_____> thurbad, and the second one it said "$ cd /media/87e09b0b-4ba6-4476-920b-2bb4445e9ae8/boot"
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  • [04:06:18] <John_____> but there is NO BOOT in that partition, so I didn't do the second part
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  • [04:08:50] <ds2> jkridner|work: did that. all I got so far is a receipt for sending in an app
  • [04:09:06] <thurbad> what did you put in for <omap image> ?
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  • [04:12:14] <JErk> Fixed my earlier problem -- I am an idiot and didn't set up the SD card up right.
  • [04:12:30] <JErk> Roughly how long does Angstrom take to boot the first time?
  • [04:13:12] <thurbad> depends, are you booting into the X server or command line?
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  • [04:13:27] <hitlin37> something between 10 min to 30 min...depends on card speed too
  • [04:13:33] <JErk> No idea -- haven't configured anything away from the defaults baked into the image
  • [04:14:25] <thurbad> if it's the demo, it will be the X server
  • [04:15:22] <JErk> Alright, I'll play some starcraft for an hour then
  • [04:16:22] <thurbad> John_____, I'm pretty sure the instructions you followed were for earlier xM beagleboards, you need to follow the instuctions for older beagleboards
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  • [05:46:21] <NotTooDumb3> Hi all, I copied omapfb-main driver as omapfb-main-backeup and ran bitbake virtual/kernel, even then i am seeing the print statements i added in omapfb-main in bootlog of new uImage, how is this possible?
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  • [07:52:10] <RobertBerger1> Hi
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  • [08:02:16] <RobertBerger1> Can someone help me with boot.scr on a beagle-xm rev A?
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  • [08:59:35] <frankho> not me sorry, but generically stating what the problem actually is might help ...
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  • [09:10:24] <hem> hi all working on devkit8000 on 2.6.32.9 with android,board USB is not working,when ever i insert the USB pendrive
  • [09:10:33] <hem> it is not getting detected
  • [09:11:07] <hem> i tried i with /sys/kernel/debug/usb/devices it does not show
  • [09:11:17] <hem> vendor ID r product id
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  • [09:20:06] <hitlin37> is usb host support enabled in ur kernel?....is it not detedting keyboard mouse etc..
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  • [09:31:20] <hem> i hitlin37 , I have enabled the USB support,it show default vendor id,but when plug other USB device's it does show
  • [09:31:38] <hem> sorry does = does not
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  • [09:39:13] <hitlin37> what other devices?
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  • [09:40:46] <NotTooDumb3> does anyone have any idea, what other omap drivers run on bb other than omapfb like matrox etc.,?
  • [09:41:02] <hitlin37> for mass storage devices...mass storage option should be enabled in kernel
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  • [09:44:22] <av500> NotTooDumb3: yes, the matrox driver runs nice after you solder a matrox graphics card to the omap3
  • [09:45:24] <NotTooDumb3> can't i run anyother driver otherthan omapfb, without adding any extra hardware? if it's possible..
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  • [09:45:45] <av500> NotTooDumb3: the only hardware inside the omap is "omap"
  • [09:46:30] <NotTooDumb3> ok..what about vfb? doesn't that alone bring up tv, if not perfect
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  • [09:48:52] <adj> err...
  • [09:49:08] <av500> adj: just don't
  • [09:49:23] <adj> ok, better not to
  • [09:51:14] <NotTooDumb3> oh..better not to reply me?
  • [09:52:13] <av500> NotTooDumb3: we take turns and rest inbetween
  • [09:53:18] <NotTooDumb3> did not get you..
  • [09:53:30] <NotTooDumb3> in work?
  • [09:54:23] <hem> hitlin37 massstorage support is enable in kernel,but when ever hot pluging (usb) is inserted it should be detected
  • [09:54:58] <hem> but not see anything in dmesg r /proc/bus/usb/device r /sys/bus/usb/
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  • [09:58:28] <hitlin37> is usbfs mounted?
  • [09:59:27] <hem> no
  • [10:00:09] <hitlin37> then first u need to enable usbfs option in kernel and mount it in init.rc
  • [10:02:24] <hem> it is enabled in kernel,
  • [10:02:51] <hem> i am trying to mount it on proc, mount -t usbdevfs none /proc/bus/usb
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  • [10:05:04] <hem> it is mounted now on kernel
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  • [10:05:37] <hem> but when ever i insert the mass storage device r wifi(usb) rt3070
  • [10:05:50] <hem> vendor ID and Prod ID
  • [10:05:56] <hem> is not showing up
  • [10:09:48] <hitlin37> is it a mass storage device ?
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  • [10:11:05] <hitlin37> or a wi-fi dongle?
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  • [10:12:15] <hem> i have both,i am testing it
  • [10:12:41] <hem> but usbfs is not showing device id r vendor id
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  • [10:17:48] <hitlin37> not sure....i mount it before during boot in init.rc file
  • [10:19:23] <hem> ok
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  • [10:41:59] <hitlin37> or u can try this mount -t usbfs none /proc/bus/usb
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  • [11:18:14] <NotTooDumb3> any idea if, shoule vga16fb run on omap or does it need special hardware?
  • [11:20:38] <av500> there is not IBM VGA card in the omap3
  • [11:20:42] <av500> nor can you add one
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  • [11:22:47] <mru> can't you add one on usb?
  • [11:23:26] <NotTooDumb3> oh..that's IBM driver? did not get it..one question, by default does /dev/fb0 relate to gfx window or vid1 window? where can i find this kind of correlation between the window and the device?
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  • [11:24:10] <koen> trm
  • [11:25:39] <av500> NotTooDumb3: fb0 is gfx
  • [11:27:16] <NotTooDumb3> ok..
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  • [11:53:41] <ProfYoder> I'm introducing my Beagle class to this chat channel
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  • [12:02:19] <tsahee> the more I work on this, the less work is actually done.
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  • [12:02:46] <tsahee> I mean, I was pretty close to something operational, and now.. kernel panic
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  • [12:03:41] <tsahee> If someone could take a look, I'd really appreciatre it. http://pastebin.com/xCtuEEkJ
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  • [12:04:10] <av500> [ 256.346923] Power Management for TI OMAP3.
  • [12:04:16] <av500> [ 256.352416] Division by zero in kernel.
  • [12:04:18] <av500> :)
  • [12:04:21] <av500> sums it up nicely
  • [12:04:44] <tsahee> is there a way to disable it? some kernel argument?
  • [12:05:03] <koen> tsahee: you booted with otg attached and no gadget driver builtin?
  • [12:05:16] <koen> I think that one is covered by http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [12:06:56] <tsahee> Excuse me, I must go punch myself for leaving the OTG connected
  • [12:07:01] <tsahee> .isloejukghemwielh;lshlkgjv
  • [12:07:13] <tsahee> there, that should teach me a lesson
  • [12:07:27] * av500 would punch TI
  • [12:07:59] <Crofton|work> speaking of punching TI :)
  • [12:08:13] <Crofton|work> koen, I hvae done research into the later u-boot problem
  • [12:08:30] <koen> Crofton|work: and?
  • [12:08:30] <Crofton|work> it seem s like he data lines go to zero's after a gpmc transfer now
  • [12:08:36] <Crofton|work> and do not stay at their last value
  • [12:08:48] <koen> that's a uboot setting?
  • [12:08:52] <Crofton|work> I can't find a setting that would control this though
  • [12:08:59] <aholler> mux
  • [12:09:06] <Crofton|work> chaning u-boot changes the behavior
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  • [12:09:20] <Crofton|work> aholler, how so?
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  • [12:09:44] <aholler> pull downs?
  • [12:10:09] <aholler> don't know. just suggesting
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  • [12:14:17] <aholler> maybe such draws the stuff to zero when powersaving goes on or similiar
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  • [12:24:51] <NotTooDumb3> any idea what are arch-omap1 and arch-omap2? are they for different hardwares?
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  • [12:26:54] <aholler> no, ti produces only one omap-chip
  • [12:28:34] <NotTooDumb3> only one omap-chip? they are different architectures right? little confused..
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  • [12:33:07] * av500 counts 5 omaps
  • [12:35:29] <koen> don't forget the ompa
  • [12:35:46] <aholler> and omap2plus
  • [12:36:25] <av500> I could say that omap6 might be coming one day, but then TI legal would glare at me again
  • [12:36:42] <av500> although I correctly predicted omap5 :)
  • [12:37:11] <aholler> you've got a us-patent for your crystal ball?
  • [12:37:19] <av500> no
  • [12:37:29] <av500> it is a simple linear predictor
  • [12:37:30] <koen> isn't it one new omapX each year?
  • [12:37:39] <av500> unheard off in texas
  • [12:37:45] <av500> -f
  • [12:37:49] <aholler> it must be simple togetsuch a patent
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  • [12:38:03] <aholler> hmm, have to clean the keyboard ;)
  • [12:38:16] <av500> time for soup?
  • [12:38:41] <mru> alphabet soup?
  • [12:38:58] <av500> stuff found in kbd soup
  • [12:39:15] <mru> some of mine have alphabet
  • [12:39:42] <aholler> I assume drugs (tobacco)
  • [12:39:46] <av500> mru: did you ever get some EMIF access error on panda?
  • [12:39:53] <av500> when doing v4l2?
  • [12:39:59] <mru> no
  • [12:40:04] <mru> what kind of error?
  • [12:40:21] <av500> EMIF: Access error from EMIF0 SYS port - 1
  • [12:40:24] <av500> its in emif.c
  • [12:40:33] <mru> never seen
  • [12:40:52] <av500> :(
  • [12:41:14] <koen> I've seen that error before
  • [12:41:19] <av500> ah
  • [12:41:22] <av500> pray tell
  • [12:41:28] <koen> but that might be because you showed me
  • [12:44:02] <av500> mru: that is when writing to a v4l2 alloced buffer
  • [12:47:05] <NotTooDumb3> looks like if i can make fb_omap y and fb_omap2 n my testing with omapfb instead of omap2fb will be done...is this a wrong knowledge?
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  • [12:56:28] <NotTooDumb3> are drivers of arch_omap supposed to run on arch_omap3, or are they completely different?
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  • [13:47:13] <basti> hi everyone
  • [13:48:12] <basti> does the narcissus builder work? My firefox always hangs after the 'prebuilding image' tick..
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  • [13:52:30] <koen> remind me to not donate flaky units to my father again
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  • [13:52:44] <koen> finish TI conf call, start dad call to get craneboard to boot
  • [13:53:24] <av500> your dad CAN do?
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  • [13:55:46] <jonpry> anyone know anything about nRESWARM?
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  • [14:18:21] <Crofton|work> aholler, thanks
  • [14:18:37] <Crofton|work> you were right about the pinmux being the problem
  • [14:18:52] <Crofton|work> although not how you thought
  • [14:19:06] <Crofton|work> I had configed sync gpmc xfers so I caould see gpmc_clk running
  • [14:19:08] <Crofton|work> but
  • [14:19:21] <Crofton|work> for sync gpmc_clk nees ien set so it can sync reds
  • [14:19:30] <Crofton|work> and in upstream u-boot this is not set
  • [14:19:33] <Crofton|work> sakoman, ping
  • [14:22:25] <woglinde> *g*
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  • [14:27:46] <av500> Crofton|work: how many beers?
  • [14:28:09] <basti> _koen_: do you have some details about what the powerVR Qt plugin exactly does? I couldn't yet find anything about it
  • [14:28:17] <aholler> Crofton|work: that was that "similiar" ;)
  • [14:28:18] <Crofton|work> none, but I should drink one to celebrate
  • [14:28:50] <woglinde> hehe
  • [14:28:52] <woglinde> at work?
  • [14:29:04] <woglinde> hm qt composer for wayland
  • [14:30:04] <woglinde> uh lol there is a meego conference this yeatr
  • [14:32:14] <av500> yes, its unstoppable
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  • [14:32:46] <woglinde> I thought it stopped itself
  • [14:33:16] <av500> no
  • [14:33:24] <av500> intel was wounded but drags on
  • [14:33:24] <woglinde> *g*
  • [14:33:29] <woglinde> just joking
  • [14:34:31] <koen> basti: it basically makes things slower for 2d stuff
  • [14:38:40] <basti> _koen_: is that just because of the Qt architecture? or Is sgx openGLES 1/2 not able to accelerate 2d operations?
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  • [14:44:52] <Mark___> I'm getting an error when running "bitbake -v"
  • [14:45:07] <Mark___> ERROR: while parsing .../cacao-native_hg.bb
  • [14:45:23] <Mark___> Any ideas how to fix this?
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  • [14:52:50] <beagle2> hey all, does anyone know how i go about using minicom with a serial/USB adapter?
  • [14:53:01] <beagle2> i assume there is some fancy setting i need to change...?
  • [14:56:29] <koen> basti: architecture and hw
  • [14:57:27] <aholler> beagle2: screen /dev/ttyUSB0 # ctrl-a shift-k to quit
  • [14:59:06] <beagle2> aholler: thanks for the tip, i just tried it, restarted minicom, and it says 'cannot open /dev/ttyUSB0!' before i turn on the beagle...
  • [14:59:25] <aholler> minicom != screen
  • [14:59:38] <aholler> use screen instead of minicom
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  • [14:59:58] <beagle2> um, alright, is that an apt-get install screen?
  • [15:00:00] <aholler> no need for a full-blown terminal program
  • [15:00:11] <beagle2> <--- (new to LInux)
  • [15:00:16] <beagle2> :(
  • [15:00:54] <beagle2> it says 'pl2303 converter now attached to ttyUSB0' on the last line of my 'grep usb', btw
  • [15:01:00] <beagle2> which i think is correct...?
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  • [15:03:30] <beagle2> hmmm, i can't get minicom to save changes now...
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  • [15:06:17] <ratmice_> so, has anyone had success with git://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/u-boot.git
  • [15:07:06] <ratmice_> i was getting an infinite loop it looks like in mmc_send_cmd (w/ mmc_stat = 0) but adding some printf stuff made it go away :/
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  • [15:08:02] <ratmice_> oh, booting on qemu haven't tried real hardware (though, the u-boot.bin from you guys works in qemu)
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  • [15:08:08] <woglinde> soccer now
  • [15:09:37] <koen> _roger_: http://groups.google.com/group/pandaboard/browse_thread/thread/dce9564420d39f5a
  • [15:13:00] <woglinde> till later
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  • [16:00:42] <ratmice_> http://paste.lisp.org/+2L6Y
  • [16:01:20] <ratmice_> that seems to fix it, the mmc_send_cmd was getting optimized to do { } while (mmc_stat == 0);
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  • [16:01:58] <aholler> don't use volatile, use readb,readw or readl
  • [16:02:11] <ratmice_> it is using it
  • [16:02:11] <av500> :)
  • [16:03:13] <aholler> then update your u-boot ;)
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  • [16:03:40] <ratmice_> but using head? :)
  • [16:03:53] <aholler> yes, readb and friends already using volatile since 2011.3
  • [16:04:03] <aholler> or around that
  • [16:05:26] <aholler> no, longer, but since 2011.3 u-boot has some stuff against a faulty gcc
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  • [16:07:24] <ratmice_> #define __arch_getl(a) (*(volatile unsigned int *)(a))
  • [16:07:29] <ratmice_> thats what its using here...
  • [16:07:41] <aholler> so your volatile isn't needed
  • [16:07:51] <aholler> and shouldn't change anything
  • [16:07:54] <ratmice_> but it doesn't work unless i add it :)
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  • [16:09:16] <aholler> __raw_read* != read*
  • [16:10:43] <aholler> anyway, that volatile will not be accepted, I think they even have a check for volatile implemented which will warn you to notuse that
  • [16:13:30] <aholler> gcc 4.5.x (x<2) ignored volatile and now they want toget rid of that. Which is a good thing, that stuff might fail if arm starts to reorder instructions.
  • [16:13:39] <aholler> (they = u-boot)
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  • [16:17:42] <aholler> then read* in u-boot will get even more complicated, like the ones in the kernel. currently it just uses something like a "compiler-barrier" and not a real memory-barrier
  • [16:18:56] <aholler> which might already be a problem if cache is turned on. don't know.
  • [16:20:17] <mru> cache is not the issue
  • [16:20:31] <mru> store buffers are
  • [16:21:22] <aholler> at least omap4-people could already have the need to use read*/write* as the ones in the kernel. I wondered nobody already updated read*/write* in u-boot. ;)
  • [16:21:22] <mru> and for a9 instruction reordering
  • [16:21:55] <mru> the a8 doesn't do much, if any, reordering
  • [16:23:13] <aholler> don't know much about arm's cache, but I've seen some cache-related stuff in the usb-part of u-boot (for ppc)
  • [16:25:11] <ratmice_> anyhow: gcc version 4.5.1 (Sourcery G++ Lite 2010.09-51)
  • [16:25:34] <ratmice_> COLLECT_GCC=arm-none-eabi-gcc
  • [16:25:43] <aholler> as I said, that version ignores volatile
  • [16:26:35] <mru> aholler: you wouldn't enable caching for mmio registers
  • [16:26:42] <mru> so caching isn't a problem
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  • [16:27:19] <mru> and no amount of barriers will help if you do have a cache problem
  • [16:27:28] <mru> you need a cache clean and/or invalidate for that
  • [16:27:29] <ratmice_> aholler: for casts at least
  • [16:27:57] <aholler> mru: a memory-barrier usually includes a cache clean
  • [16:28:07] <mru> no
  • [16:28:12] <mru> definitely not
  • [16:28:18] <aholler> as you wish
  • [16:28:26] <mru> read the specs if you don't believe me
  • [16:29:32] <mru> dmb only makes sure all memory accesses issued before it complete before any more are issued
  • [16:29:51] <mru> it is completely obvlivious to cache
  • [16:29:55] <mru> -v
  • [16:30:06] <aholler> dmb != memory barrier, at least in my point of view
  • [16:30:15] <mru> dmb == data memory barrier
  • [16:30:34] <mru> eieio on ppc does pretty much the same
  • [16:32:25] <aholler> dmb is an assembly instruction, don't know what they do. I just said memory barrier, and such a thing should invalidate the cache. imho.
  • [16:33:00] <mru> you're probably alone with that definition
  • [16:33:00] <aholler> anyway, u-boot doesn't do that currently for arm ;)
  • [16:33:17] <aholler> lonesome cowboy
  • [16:33:47] <mru> it's much easier if you use the same terminology as others, even you think it's wrong
  • [16:34:35] <aholler> you are wright, thanks
  • [16:35:06] <mru> a cache clean is an expensive operation you don't want to do unless strictly necessary
  • [16:36:26] <aholler> the next time I will attach an article with a correct definition.
  • [16:37:04] <aholler> sorry for using the word barrier at all
  • [16:38:05] <koen> you probably mean dsb, right?
  • [16:39:01] <aholler> I avoid asm if possible and leave such to people like mru.
  • [16:39:25] <mru> dsb is a more powerful barrier
  • [16:39:51] <mru> but it doesn't touch caches either
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  • [16:54:13] <ratmice_> aholler: found the patch to asm/io.h you meant.
  • [16:54:44] <ratmice_> would be good if someone pulled it into the beagleboard-validation repo
  • [16:56:34] <supjigator> wasim hang out here anymore?
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  • [17:14:19] <woglinde> re
  • [17:14:32] <woglinde> so who was it with cacao-native-hg and problems?
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  • [17:59:04] <buZz> hmm, seems nobody runs with Sharp Zaurus SL-C1000 anymore
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  • [17:59:09] <buZz> but i really want to run debian on it ;)
  • [17:59:25] <buZz> guess i will have to grab some retro binaries
  • [18:00:55] <koen> why debian? that's still armv4t
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  • [18:02:58] <woglinde> koen isnt the sharp armv4t anyway?
  • [18:03:11] <mru> woglinde: I think that response is scripted
  • [18:03:44] <woglinde> mru?
  • [18:03:47] <woglinde> hf is coming
  • [18:03:49] <woglinde> like ubuntu
  • [18:03:55] <woglinde> or with
  • [18:04:00] <woglinde> or together
  • [18:04:11] <koen> woglinde: pxa2xx is armv5te
  • [18:04:13] <mru> woglinde: koen probably has a script that automatically says that whenever debian is mentioned
  • [18:04:28] <koen> woglinde: and hardfloat is useless on something without an fpu
  • [18:04:32] <mru> if he doesn't, he should consider writing one
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  • [18:04:57] <mru> koen: hard vs softfp isn't much of a difference for any real software
  • [18:05:00] <koen> mru: did rob send you that error patch for omapfbplay yet?
  • [18:05:04] <mru> yes he did
  • [18:05:15] <mru> and roger already bugged me about it today
  • [18:05:16] <koen> ok, roger was asking about that
  • [18:05:19] <koen> :)
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  • [18:06:07] <koen> we got gst-ducati to work as well, so now we can show multiple ways of using ivahd on omap4
  • [18:06:10] <koen> without OMX
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  • [18:08:31] <mru> btw, I hate TI installers
  • [18:08:36] <mru> please fix them
  • [18:08:39] <woglinde_> yeah omx
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  • [18:29:14] <koen> mru: we're trying to get people to use one set of installjammer options, but it's slow going
  • [18:29:33] <mru> well, it's sure jamming my installs
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  • [18:31:54] <mru> koen: and there's something fundamentally broken in that installer anyway
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  • [18:33:40] <b7500af1> I'm running gnuradio on a C3, and when I do a simple transfer of data from one buffer to another I get ~3.0MBPs. That makes sense for uncached memory, right?
  • [18:34:39] <b7500af1> Whereas if I write a separate program doing a similar transfer of data, I get 60+MBps.. which corresponds to the cached memory access speed.. without whatever GNUradio overhead.. etc.
  • [18:35:21] <b7500af1> I can't see any reason why gnuradio is using non-cached memory r/w
  • [18:36:13] <b7500af1> is there a way I can change between the two, or something I need to watch for?
  • [18:36:43] <b7500af1> if I wanted to read on up what's going on.. I'd be looking for info on the EDMA?
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  • [18:39:14] <Viktator> hey, i have set up angstrom on my BBxM, it works fine and i been playing around quite a bit. However, i cant start x to get a desktop to work with
  • [18:39:36] <Viktator> maybe i have done something wrong during the set-up etc..
  • [18:40:15] <Crofton|work> b7500af1, look at how gnuradio allocates the buffer
  • [18:40:35] <Viktator> startx gives: fatal server error cannot open log file /var/log/Xorg.0.log
  • [18:40:39] <Crofton|work> I suspect it does so in such a way that it is coherent across multiple core
  • [18:40:59] <Viktator> there is no such a file
  • [18:41:55] <b7500af1> Crofton|work, does that imply that caching is unusable?
  • [18:42:46] <Crofton|work> no
  • [18:42:52] <Crofton|work> have to think though
  • [18:42:59] <b7500af1> btw, on the BB I'm using, it defaults to mmap, shm_open.. not sure if the E100 uses that as well.
  • [18:43:11] <Crofton|work> probably :)
  • [18:43:14] <Crofton|work> bbl
  • [18:43:29] <koen> Viktator: install gdm and a desktop
  • [18:43:52] <Viktator> with the opkg?
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  • [18:45:43] <koen> that would be the easiest way
  • [18:45:57] <Viktator> :)
  • [18:47:13] <Viktator> koen: okey, im installing gdm.. and what desktop should I use (btw, there is a clock in my display now...what does that mean?)
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  • [18:48:36] <Viktator> like, opkg install gnome? im not great with linux...
  • [18:49:08] <Viktator> ah...gdm is gnome..
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  • [18:55:40] <Viktator> there is just a watch on the display.. what does that mean? if i ssh into the BB i see that nothing is running
  • [18:56:33] <Viktator> this happend after opkg install gdm
  • [18:56:43] <koen> Viktator: install the desktop you want, gnome, lxde, xfce, matchbox, gpe, etc
  • [18:57:29] <Viktator> koen: okey, but hmmm...I seem to get stuck after install gdm?
  • [18:58:24] <Viktator> and after displaying "the watch" for a while there is now no signal to the display
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  • [19:00:05] <slobbo> i don't know how to switch to s-video utput
  • [19:01:01] <slobbo> i only found solutions where they switch at boot-time
  • [19:01:12] <aholler> Viktator: the watch is from your display, try echo -e "\33[9;0]" > /dev/console
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  • [19:02:51] <Alex____> Hi, I need to power a laser line generator using one of the pins on my BB C4. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what pin I can use to grab a 3VDC signal, also how can I control output to the pin?
  • [19:03:07] <aholler> Viktator: it's the same as using setterm -blank 0, it disables the console-screensaver
  • [19:03:35] <Alex____> I'd really appreciate any advice
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  • [19:05:16] <Viktator> aholler: thx... i can just type the echo-command from ssh? didnt have any effect on the display
  • [19:06:15] <aholler> don't know, it might not turn on the display. I'm using it in a startup-script, which means before the display was actually turned off
  • [19:06:51] <Viktator> okey, ill do that
  • [19:06:55] <Viktator> thx
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  • [19:07:18] <aholler> you might have to enter something in displayed console to turn it on again, or ask google how to turn it on again.
  • [19:07:34] <Viktator> okey... reboot turned it on :) (before rebooting though)
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  • [19:08:53] <buZz> > In order to create a bootable SD/MMC card under Linux compatible with OMAP3 boot ROM, you'd have to set a special geometry in the partition table
  • [19:09:03] <buZz> can someone tell me why this is ?
  • [19:09:09] <aholler> Viktator: and that doesn't change the behaviour of x, x has it own settings
  • [19:09:33] <Viktator> i still havnt managed to get x up...
  • [19:10:37] <Viktator> after rebooting, i get "the watch" in just a minute
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  • [19:12:30] <koen> buZz: most of that is cargocult
  • [19:12:31] <aholler> then you might have to set the correct resolution using boot.scr and the display will get disabled through wrong settings
  • [19:12:40] <koen> buZz: but the bootrom is fairly stupid
  • [19:12:43] <beagle2> i'm baaak :)
  • [19:12:57] <Viktator> aholler. ok
  • [19:12:59] <beagle2> (by which i mean i got a freash image of sakoman going...)
  • [19:13:16] <koen> buZz: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/mkcard.txt does the job for me
  • [19:13:30] <beagle2> wish me luck getting the stupid thing backed up on my laptop correctly this time...
  • [19:13:40] <buZz> koen: what do you mean cargocult?
  • [19:13:56] <koen> buZz: doing stuff without an actual reason
  • [19:14:06] <buZz> ah hmm
  • [19:14:18] <buZz> i have trouble with a SL-C1000 reading a 2GB sd card ;)
  • [19:14:50] <buZz> running some retro 2.4 kernel
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  • [19:15:38] <beagle2> quick question all:
  • [19:15:50] <Viktator> aholler: i dont think the watch is my display, it must come from the bb?
  • [19:16:04] <beagle2> 'sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=sakoman.img bs=4096'
  • [19:16:07] <Viktator> if there was no signal there would be "no signal"
  • [19:16:28] <beagle2> that should work to back up my sd, assuming i have the device path right and am in the folder i want to write the file to, right...?
  • [19:16:54] <beagle2> .img is the correct extension (even though linux does not awknowledge extensions)?
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  • [19:17:20] <beagle2> i'll take your silence as confirmation i am not crazy...
  • [19:18:48] <beagle2> can anyone tell me what static ip settings i should give my beagle in order to be able to ssh into it and get in online?
  • [19:20:21] <Viktator> beagle2, it depends on your isp etc?
  • [19:20:53] <Viktator> beagel2 for me i just plug it into my router, forward port 22 to the ip of the BB
  • [19:21:32] <Viktator> and then ssh to the router
  • [19:22:07] <koen> buZz: try to catch ant_work on irc sometime, he has .38 working on akita iirc
  • [19:25:36] <koen> hmmm
  • [19:25:37] <koen> http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/22/toshiba-outs-14-inch-displaylink-powered-usb-mobile-monitor-for/
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  • [19:27:24] <dm8tbr> that's cool
  • [19:29:15] <Crofton|work> koen, that will work with the e100?
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  • [19:30:17] <Viktator> like it :) it would be cool to be able to get the display of a android phone on a external monitor through usb
  • [19:30:56] <beagle2> viktator: it sounds like you have a dynamic ip for your beagle and get to it via the router's dhcp?
  • [19:32:09] <Viktator> yes
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  • [19:32:18] <Viktator> correct
  • [19:33:11] <beagle2> hmmm, is that easier to configure than setting a static ip on the beagle?
  • [19:33:22] <beagle2> keeping in mind that i konw next-to-nothing about routers...? :)
  • [19:33:36] <koen> Crofton|work: slowly
  • [19:34:00] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [19:34:28] <buZz> koen: i know newer versions work better, even the built in rom works better ;) i was just trying to trick 2.4 into swallowing my sd card
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  • [19:34:42] <Viktator> beagle2, well.. in my case i didnt have to do anything at all
  • [19:34:53] <buZz> maybe i still have some 512MB card _somewhere_
  • [19:34:55] <buZz> :/
  • [19:35:04] <Viktator> turning on dhcp on your router would do it right?
  • [19:35:25] <koen> Crofton|work: I'm going to print http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6650 and bring it to ELC
  • [19:35:42] <beagle2> viktator: ya, i think i got you, my router came with schp enabled as well (pretty sure) but my dad walked me through disabling it cause i think he thought it'd work better as a static ip...
  • [19:35:58] <beagle2> i'll see if i can find the dhcp settings, hang on
  • [19:36:03] <Viktator> ok
  • [19:36:11] <beagle2> um, to get to my router's admin menu i need to enable eth0,
  • [19:36:18] <beagle2> which kicks me off the wireless...is that normal?
  • [19:36:31] <koen> Crofton|work: I guess that ruins my chances to get on the yocto board :)
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  • [19:36:58] <woglinde_> beagle o.O still fighting?
  • [19:37:12] <beagle2> woglinde_: you have no idea.
  • [19:37:18] <Viktator> beagle2, just type in the routers ip in a browser?
  • [19:37:28] <beagle2> after i said goodbye to you yesterday, i ralized i didn't have internet on my beagle,
  • [19:37:41] <woglinde_> beagle *g*
  • [19:37:56] <beagle2> and tried to monkey with the interfaces file, and then lost my ability to ssh
  • [19:38:05] <woglinde_> o.O
  • [19:38:12] <buZz> beagle2 is like that one guy on lanparties that ends up completely re-installing his system over and over during the event
  • [19:38:19] <beagle2> and THEN i was using weird images on my sd that i found on my harddrive that i THOUGHT were good backups--
  • [19:38:22] <Viktator> :D
  • [19:38:26] <woglinde_> copy the g_ether modul to the sd-card and install it
  • [19:38:34] <Crofton|work> it will go with Denis' photo from ELCE :)
  • [19:38:34] <woglinde_> and then connect the usb cable
  • [19:38:37] <beagle2> hey, to be fair i had like nothing on this install anyways...
  • [19:38:48] <beagle2> i was rdy to reinstall this Ubuntu machine too, if i had to :)
  • [19:39:22] <beagle2> viktator: i will try it your way first
  • [19:39:33] <beagle2> i'm enabling eth0 now, but it might kick me offline...
  • [19:39:39] <woglinde_> lol
  • [19:39:51] <Viktator> ok...
  • [19:40:10] <Viktator> but why do you have to use eth0 ?
  • [19:40:39] <Viktator> to get into your router would just be 192.168.0.1 or something similar..you can do that through wifi
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  • [19:43:10] <beagle2_> hey all
  • [19:43:24] <Viktator> :)
  • [19:43:27] <beagle2_> viktator: i was right, i can't get onto my router and have internet at same time :(
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  • [19:43:33] <Alex____> Hi, I need to power a laser line generator using one of the pins on my BB C4. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what pin I can use to grab a 3VDC signal, also how can I control output to the pin?
  • [19:43:44] <Viktator> beagle2: and why?
  • [19:43:48] <beagle2_> (i am on a lab computer right now, while i look at my router settingso n my own machine interface)
  • [19:43:56] <_av500_> Alex____: no
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  • [19:44:13] <_av500_> the signals are 1,8v
  • [19:44:23] <beagle2_> Viktator: i am not sure, is the eth0 taking presedence over my wireless or something?
  • [19:44:25] <_av500_> and they can power nothing
  • [19:44:42] <beagle2_> should i disconnect my router from the campus internet and just have it as a lan?
  • [19:44:59] <Alex____> so its not possible to get a 3VDC signal?
  • [19:45:21] <Ceriand|work> Alex____: you need some level-shifting/buffer circuitry
  • [19:46:01] <beagle2_> viktator: i found the dhcp settings on my router, it was already enabled
  • [19:46:20] <Alex____> <Ceriand|work> what pin do i use the level shift on?
  • [19:46:22] <beagle2_> (i had disabled it, but had reset the thing to fac defaults last night as i couldn't access it)
  • [19:46:41] <_av500_> Alex____: one of the free GPIOs
  • [19:46:52] <beagle2_> so...you said i should forward port 22 to the beagle? i assume that is on the router menu somewhere as well?
  • [19:46:53] <_av500_> read the SRM
  • [19:47:01] <Alex____> i am reading it now
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  • [19:49:21] <Alex____> do the GPIO's have a constant output? or do I need to turn on the pin?
  • [19:50:05] <Viktator> beagle2 yes
  • [19:50:18] <beagle2> viktator, how do i forward port 22 to my beagle's ip if it isn't static thoh?
  • [19:50:20] <Viktator> there should be something lookg "forwarding"
  • [19:50:21] <beagle2> though*
  • [19:50:32] <beagle2> viktator: i found that menu too
  • [19:50:45] <Viktator> well.. if you keep in plugged into the router your ip will stay
  • [19:50:46] <Ceriand|work> Alex____: are you just looking to power something?
  • [19:50:55] <beagle2> it asks for 'port range' and 'server ip address'
  • [19:51:06] <Viktator> write 22 as port
  • [19:51:15] <Viktator> and server ip adress: ip of bb
  • [19:51:33] <Viktator> i guess you can make your router to always give the bb the same ip
  • [19:51:40] <Alex____> <Ceriand|work> I am powering a laser line generator that needs 3VDC and <30mA
  • [19:51:40] <beagle2> Viktatok: i'm going to pack it up and stow it sometime in the near future...ideally today, so no one steals it
  • [19:51:41] <beagle2> (communal lab)
  • [19:52:02] <Ceriand|work> Alex____: do you need to be able to turn it on and off while the BB is running?
  • [19:52:04] <Alex____> I can deal with the pin i use to power it being on constantly
  • [19:52:11] <beagle2> and i'd like to be able to jsut break it out at some later point and remote into it, without first going onto a serial connection or directly on a monitor to find the ip...
  • [19:52:20] <Alex____> but being able to control the output in also interesting
  • [19:52:28] <beagle2> so, i am thnking i want a static ip then?
  • [19:52:39] <Alex____> I'd prefer being able to control it
  • [19:52:59] <beagle2> in order to be able to shut to pack it up/deploy it at will have be able to get at it throug the router?
  • [19:53:12] <_av500_> Alex____: if it needs to be constantly powered, just wire it up directly???
  • [19:53:16] <Ceriand|work> Alex____: i'd just get a 3.3V regulator with enable and hang in on the 5V output, controlled by a gpio
  • [19:53:25] <Ceriand|work> if you want it to be controlled
  • [19:53:42] <Ceriand|work> otherwise just get a 3.3V regulator and hang it off of the 5V rail
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  • [19:54:35] <Ceriand|work> there's a 3.3V rail on the connector too, IIRC, but I'm not sure how much current it can source
  • [19:54:46] <Alex____> do you know which pin the 5V output? is it in the LCD header? or the expansion slots? also how can I control a GPIO?
  • [19:54:54] <Ceriand|work> Alex____: look at the SRM
  • [19:54:58] <Ceriand|work> or schematics
  • [19:55:42] <woglinde_> over /sys
  • [19:55:48] <woglinde_> when activated
  • [19:55:52] <woglinde_> in kernel
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  • [20:01:48] <mru> koen: roger tricked me into installing ccs
  • [20:01:55] <mru> koen: and now it's bitching about a licence
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  • [20:02:13] <mru> I have the goddamn hardware ffs
  • [20:02:15] <Yoshq> anyone know how to access an unformatted drive in linux?
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  • [20:02:51] <koen> mru: roger should have a code to unlock it
  • [20:02:59] <koen> unless we ran out again
  • [20:03:07] <koen> in that case roger will bother greg
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  • [20:03:19] <koen> who will bother silvain
  • [20:03:26] <koen> and we get more serialz to give out
  • [20:03:28] <mru> why do I need a separate licence to use the hardware I obviously already possess?
  • [20:03:40] <Ceriand|work> mru: greed
  • [20:03:59] <koen> it makes PHBs warm and fuzzy
  • [20:04:02] <Yoshq> I used dd to write data to the first sectors of this SD card I have--I was able to use the SD and the data OK on my embedded app--But now when I try to put it back in my PC, it won't show up as /dev/sdb1 -- another sd card I have shows up as /dev/sdb1
  • [20:04:25] <Yoshq> the SD card still responds to low level SD commands--IE, CMD0, CMD8, CMD55, ACMD41
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  • [20:06:12] <mru> Ceriand|work: well, they gave me the hardware with the intent that I use it for something
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  • [20:07:35] <woglinde_> Yoshq try fdisk or cfdisk
  • [20:07:47] <woglinde_> to see what partitions are found
  • [20:07:57] <Yoshq> actually--i think the HP USB format utility is working
  • [20:08:17] <Yoshq> but the disk won't show up
  • [20:08:41] <_av500_> mru: you have it all wrong
  • [20:08:43] <Yoshq> if the disk won't show up as /dev/sbx -- how can I use fdisk?
  • [20:09:01] <_av500_> the hw is only made because the CCS group approved some of their money to be spend on silicon
  • [20:09:16] <_av500_> instead of being paid out as thier bonus
  • [20:09:20] <_av500_> their
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  • [20:11:40] <beagle2> not to be a pain, but can someone help me get a static ip for my beagle real fast...?
  • [20:11:48] <beagle2> i had it working previously, but i forgot what i did...lol
  • [20:12:17] <woglinde_> ifconfig eth0 127.0.0.1 up
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  • [20:13:02] <mru> woglinde_: :)
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  • [20:14:44] <aholler> fast and quick are words meaningful for payed support
  • [20:15:25] <beagle2> aholler: are you talking to me?
  • [20:15:28] <woglinde_> aholler beer?
  • [20:15:42] <aholler> beagle2: quick answer: yes
  • [20:15:51] <mru> someone said beer?
  • [20:15:54] <_av500_> +1
  • [20:16:01] <beagle2> i know i am being whiny, but it is just so annoying that i had it working before, and it didn't takem e long either,
  • [20:16:02] * dm8tbr looks
  • [20:16:04] * _av500_ has Paulaner
  • [20:16:06] <_av500_> er no
  • [20:16:07] <beagle2> and now i can;'t recall what...
  • [20:16:09] <woglinde_> mru me
  • [20:16:09] <_av500_> Augustiner
  • [20:16:09] * mru has hobgoblin
  • [20:16:17] <woglinde_> av500 we talked about peer
  • [20:16:20] * dm8tbr had a longdrink
  • [20:16:24] <woglinde_> ups beer paulaner isnt
  • [20:16:31] <_av500_> true
  • [20:16:37] <woglinde_> augustiner is fine
  • [20:16:37] * beagle2_ (80775b0d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.119.91.13) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
  • [20:16:40] <_av500_> indeed
  • [20:17:01] <woglinde_> edelstoff?
  • [20:17:07] <_av500_> no
  • [20:17:07] <mru> paulaner tastes like generic mass-market beer
  • [20:17:15] <_av500_> mru: it is
  • [20:17:31] <_av500_> woglinde_: the std Hell
  • [20:17:39] <woglinde_> yeah
  • [20:17:53] <_av500_> so ican say, hell is nice :)
  • [20:17:59] <aholler> altenm??nster is good stuff
  • [20:18:06] <_av500_> ah well
  • [20:18:18] <dm8tbr> we have a very decent mirco-brewery here in Tampere
  • [20:18:31] <dm8tbr> they also have a Hefeweizen :)
  • [20:18:34] <_av500_> dm8tbr: I know a mirco, must have been brewed there :)
  • [20:18:38] <woglinde_> dm8tbr Hefeweizen is no beer
  • [20:19:02] <_av500_> 'tis
  • [20:19:10] <dm8tbr> woglinde_: well I prefer their other beers, like the stout
  • [20:19:30] <woglinde_> dm8tbr as long as its no bud
  • [20:19:37] <djlewis_> beagle2: [01:20:56] <beagle2> and blame djlewis, he showed me it :-P , wasn't I.
  • [20:20:05] <beagle2> woglinde_: very funny pointing me to the loopback btw, i sort of figured out what you did
  • [20:20:11] <beagle2> still don't know how to fix though...
  • [20:20:17] <dm8tbr> woglinde_: that's how the off-the-shelf beer tastes here in Finland...
  • [20:20:24] <woglinde_> .o(he really tried it?)
  • [20:20:29] <beagle2> djlewis_: you SO showed me the 'sudo su -' command!
  • [20:20:51] <beagle2> not that i'm complaining, it is quite convineint, if a little too powerful for my novice hands...
  • [20:20:55] <djlewis_> no, sudo is one, su is another
  • [20:21:04] <woglinde_> - is option
  • [20:21:25] <beagle2> yes, yes, i still type it all on one line and it makes me super user for the session
  • [20:21:30] <beagle2> i get what it does NOW
  • [20:21:51] <beagle2> and woglinde_: pardon me for being nieve and takign advice blindly
  • [20:21:57] <beagle2> i jsut want internet for my dam beagle...
  • [20:22:14] <woglinde_> shift+rightmouse run as Administrator
  • [20:22:48] <woglinde_> turskish commercials are funny
  • [20:23:00] <beagle2> woglinde_: is that for icons in the filesystem or in the terminal window?
  • [20:23:05] <_av500_> woglinde_: ah right, you are in the capitol
  • [20:23:05] <beagle2> i am working in the terminal window, atm...
  • [20:23:25] <woglinde_> _av500_ na watching basketball euroleague stream
  • [20:23:35] <woglinde_> turkish these times
  • [20:23:35] <beagle2> bah, you stink wogilnde_, i had just gotten internet on my Ubuntu machine AND the ethernet connected at the same time...
  • [20:23:56] <woglinde_> beagle try reading about bridiging and proxy arp
  • [20:24:01] <woglinde_> and use a usb-cable
  • [20:24:10] <woglinde_> bridging even
  • [20:24:21] <GGuyZ> woglinde_: Who?
  • [20:24:31] <woglinde_> GGuyZ where?
  • [20:24:36] <GGuyZ> :D
  • [20:24:39] <djlewis_> why
  • [20:24:40] <GGuyZ> Who's playing
  • [20:24:47] * jconnolly|away is now known as jconnolly
  • [20:24:52] <woglinde_> barcelona vs. athen
  • [20:25:01] <GGuyZ> Oh
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  • [20:25:14] <woglinde_> quarter finals today
  • [20:25:18] <woglinde_> first games
  • [20:25:32] <GGuyZ> Yup
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  • [20:26:08] <GGuyZ> I'm watching Maccabi TA vs Caja Laboral
  • [20:26:15] <woglinde_> hm yeah
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  • [20:26:23] <woglinde_> but barcelona is better
  • [20:26:39] <GGuyZ> Probably
  • [20:26:46] <GGuyZ> But I'm a Maccabi fan
  • [20:26:58] <woglinde_> close game
  • [20:27:00] <woglinde_> ah
  • [20:28:11] <beagle2> i see i've lost your interest, woglinde_...I will try your bridging method if i cannot get the static ip working in another hour or so...
  • [20:28:30] <beagle2> i DID bring in a male-male usb cord jsut for that purpose from home today ^^
  • [20:29:41] <aholler> do you have a brother?
  • [20:30:25] <beagle2> aholler: you asking me?
  • [20:30:35] <woglinde_> beagle1
  • [20:30:40] <beagle2> yay, i have ssh/ftp working again, though not on a static ip...
  • [20:30:54] <beagle2> haha, i may have inadvertently logged on as 'beagle1' before
  • [20:31:11] <beagle2> but there's no way my only brother would be doing anything this sophisticated... :)
  • [20:31:37] <_av500_> he gets to go out with girls more....
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  • [20:34:59] <beagle2> _av500_: he gets to possibly go to prison and deal with my father at home for the rest of his life, is more like it...
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  • [20:39:16] <ds2> Moooooo
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  • [20:40:32] <aholler> wrong, moo
  • [20:40:42] <woglinde> foooo
  • [20:40:43] <woglinde> llllllllllll
  • [20:40:48] <aholler> apt-get moo
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  • [20:43:24] <aholler> and the bug for that: https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/apt/+bug/56125
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  • [21:01:23] <beagle2> i don't suppose anyone can give me the quick-and-dirty for how to get opencv compiling on beagleboard...?
  • [21:02:49] <woglinde> oh not again
  • [21:03:04] <beagle2> hey, i deserve some props for getting this far,
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  • [21:03:32] * mru props beagle2 against the wall
  • [21:03:35] <beagle2> most of it hasn't been through virtue of miming whatever this forum tells me
  • [21:03:50] <beagle2> mru: i deserve that for using 'props'
  • [21:03:57] <mru> be careful, we'll tell you anything
  • [21:04:06] <beagle2> i'm just asking to be pointed in the right direction...
  • [21:04:10] <mru> we'll even tell you 26 + 26 = 54
  • [21:04:22] <beagle2> ya...--wait a minute...
  • [21:04:23] <_av500_> i would
  • [21:04:33] <beagle2> anyway--perhaps a nice little tutorial somewhere...?
  • [21:04:46] <beagle2> trust me, i've spent days searching for one online and to no avail
  • [21:04:57] <beagle2> 'plenty out there about dsp on the beagle, which is scary stuff...
  • [21:05:22] <mru> if people only bothered to learn how stuff really works, they wouldn't need a tutorial for everything
  • [21:05:46] <beagle2> if colleges didn't expect me to be taking 7 classes, then i would have time to learn how things worked
  • [21:06:08] <beagle2> i figured out openCV for Windows pretty much on my own,
  • [21:06:15] <beagle2> but this is quite the different beast...
  • [21:06:18] <mru> go to a college where they teach how stuff works
  • [21:06:21] <ds2> time is not an issue. desire to learn is.
  • [21:06:41] <beagle2> mru: i wanted to, i didn't find any that fit the bill :(
  • [21:07:02] <beagle2> ds2: bah, that only goes so far...
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  • [21:13:50] <beagle2> is...cross-compilation the way to go for opencv...?
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  • [21:14:11] <artzz> hi everyone
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  • [21:14:42] <artzz> I have compiled a xorg image with beagleboard, but I would like to disable the power-saving options such as turning off the screen and such since they are making mono crash. any ideas on how to do this?
  • [21:15:01] <djlewis_> beagle2: no
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  • [21:21:59] <beagle2> djlewis: thanks for yanking me away from hours of looking down the wrong path... :)
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  • [21:22:32] <beagle2> ooo, i found the header files that 'opkg install opencv' put on my beagle... i'm getting closer!
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  • [21:23:14] <woglinde> artzz xset
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  • [21:27:54] <artzz> woglinde, thanks!
  • [21:27:59] <djlewis_> beagle2: x-compiling is good for large items like kernels.
  • [21:28:12] <woglinde> artzz xser -q
  • [21:28:15] <woglinde> xset -q
  • [21:28:19] <woglinde> xset -dpms
  • [21:28:20] <djlewis_> beagle2: anything you would write for openCV would most likely be tiny by comparison
  • [21:28:39] <koen> djlewis_: it's still c++
  • [21:28:46] <koen> and you don't want to natively compile c++
  • [21:28:48] <beagle2> djlewis_:ya, i hear ya, i am planning on having MAYBE 50 lines of code, top
  • [21:28:56] <beagle2> so quite the small-time project :)
  • [21:29:22] <djlewis_> koen: is there a reason?
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  • [21:29:56] <artzz> woglinde, thanks, I think that will do ;)
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  • [21:34:59] <beagle2> djlewis: i found a decent tutorial in a forum (http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/msg/76449733782b5b53) but i am confused that some of the opkf install commands they say to run aren't working...
  • [21:35:27] <beagle2> i guess the repositories have been modified and done away with some of these since 2009...?
  • [21:36:19] <djlewis_> beagle2: that was before openCV was included in Angstrom
  • [21:36:42] <djlewis_> beagle2: also it was for the latest version of openCV which was not in Angstrom
  • [21:37:16] <beagle2> ah...so that tutorial's no good?
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  • [21:38:14] <djlewis_> it's good if you are running 2.6.29 :)
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  • [21:40:40] <djlewis_> beagle2: since 2.6.29 openCV is installable with opkg. and they finally updated it
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  • [21:41:34] <beagle2> ya, i have the opencv files from opkg install, are you saying that should be all that i need?
  • [21:41:52] <djlewis_> that and the toolchain whic we have covered more than once
  • [21:41:56] <djlewis_> which
  • [21:42:27] <beagle2> hmmm
  • [21:42:41] <beagle2> was that the gcc and python stuff, by chance...?
  • [21:42:43] <djlewis_> task-sdk-native
  • [21:42:54] <beagle2> ah, yes, i installed that as well
  • [21:43:03] <beagle2> even though i am not quite sure how to use it...
  • [21:43:26] <djlewis_> then write a simple c++ hello world and test it. dont jump into opencv without testing your toolchain
  • [21:43:50] <beagle2> aye, i got that far on my own, hello world is compiling and running
  • [21:44:21] <beagle2> i even made a handy little batch to remove the old file, compile, and run whenever i want to recompile it, and i can do it over the ssh connection :)
  • [21:44:22] <djlewis_> then you are ready for the next step but you may have to add some build args to reach into opencv libs and includes
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  • [21:44:55] <beagle2> like, at the top of my .cpp, or in my shell file?
  • [21:45:39] <beagle2> alright, well it sounds like i am off to a good start
  • [21:45:55] <beagle2> i just have to find a simple enough, up-to-date tutorial to get me the last ten yards...
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  • [21:46:03] <woglinde> o.O
  • [21:46:16] <beagle2> is that your callsign, woglinde...?
  • [21:46:29] <beagle2> anyways, i really have to be going now
  • [21:46:39] <beagle2> i have other stuff to do, so i have to leave this for tonight
  • [21:46:45] <beagle2> thanks so much for your help, djlewis
  • [21:47:00] <djlewis_> beagle2: that link you posted, under: I modified a script to compile source programs...
  • [21:47:05] <beagle2> and all you other guys, even woglinde, regardless of him destroying my internet...
  • [21:47:18] <beagle2> djlewis: yes?
  • [21:47:58] <djlewis_> beagle2: look about the middle of that link page where it begins. It should be the same today.
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  • [21:48:31] <djlewis_> beagle2: keep that section in mind if you have build troubles
  • [21:48:47] <beagle2> ah, i see, so that is essentially the script file i'll need in place of my currect 'run.sh'?
  • [21:49:03] <beagle2> cool, thanks for the help, i'll be back on in the future i'm sure...
  • [21:49:11] <beagle2> but i'll try to get most of the way on my own :)
  • [21:49:16] <beagle2> see ya guys.
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  • [21:58:40] <artzzz> mm there is something wrong
  • [21:58:44] <artzzz> xset seems to restart my Xorg
  • [21:58:50] <artzzz> even when I do xset -q
  • [21:58:55] <woglinde> ugh
  • [21:59:00] <woglinde> thats sounds nasty
  • [21:59:05] <artzzz> first
  • [21:59:06] <artzzz> if I d
  • [21:59:07] <artzzz> if I do
  • [21:59:17] <artzzz> wait, easier
  • [21:59:18] <woglinde> but maybee its restart because xorg crashed
  • [21:59:24] <artzzz> I do, from the beginning. Xorg&
  • [21:59:30] <artzzz> so it stays in the background
  • [21:59:38] <artzzz> and then DISPLAY="0:0" xset -q
  • [21:59:39] <woglinde> ?
  • [21:59:42] <artzzz> maybe I shouldn't do that?
  • [21:59:51] <woglinde> xorg in background?
  • [21:59:55] <artzzz> yes, well, somewhere
  • [21:59:55] <woglinde> what the hell you are doing
  • [22:00:03] <artzzz> well I wanted to start it manually
  • [22:00:43] <woglinde> /etc/init.d/xdm dont works?
  • [22:00:45] <woglinde> or startx?
  • [22:00:53] <artzzz> ehm
  • [22:00:57] <artzzz> i haven't tried really
  • [22:01:47] <artzzz> I have no xdm, maybe I should install it
  • [22:01:53] <artzzz> no startx as well
  • [22:02:45] <woglinde> install the right packages
  • [22:02:53] <artzzz> ok, I thought I could do it on my own
  • [22:03:05] <artzzz> since it actually works with mono and qt/x11.. but not with xset as it seems
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  • [22:05:00] <_av500_> hmm, mono seems to pass opencv as the top meme here...
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  • [22:05:30] <ds2> prehaps it is students and kissing?
  • [22:06:07] <Ceriand|work> ds2: not likely, engineers
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  • [22:06:20] <artzzz> which package would xdm be into?
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  • [22:09:20] <mcz_br> hello, everybody
  • [22:09:39] <mcz_br> has anyone utilized a webcam with beagleboard?
  • [22:09:50] <mcz_br> i am using a UVC video driver
  • [22:09:57] <mcz_br> and the video capture is ok
  • [22:10:09] <mcz_br> but I believe the microphone is not working
  • [22:10:19] <mcz_br> probably because a missing driver
  • [22:10:48] <mcz_br> does anyone know if the UVC video driver already includes the micro?
  • [22:12:41] <artzzz> woglinde, any idea about which package xdm is in?
  • [22:12:59] <woglinde> no
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  • [22:13:02] <woglinde> use gdm
  • [22:13:08] <woglinde> if you dont find it
  • [22:13:12] <woglinde> opkg update
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  • [22:13:18] <woglinde> opkg list | grep gdm
  • [22:13:57] <artzzz> ok thanks ;)
  • [22:18:02] <artzzz> woglinde, could you tell me what you get with that line? I have problems doing the update but I could manually copy the necessary package
  • [22:19:25] <woglinde> sorry I havent my beagle turned on
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  • [22:22:22] <artzzz> ok no problem. I have all the packages I have compiled and it doesn't seem to be there, i will check on the full beagleboard image
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  • [22:26:25] <artzzz> btw, when the CPU usage is high, would it be possible to 'burn' the omap?
  • [22:26:36] <artzzz> I tried some nice graphics qt demos, and the board heats up quite a lot
  • [22:27:43] <mru> never heard of one self-frying
  • [22:28:10] <jacekowski> artzzz: if you live on some iraqui desert with 50C ambient then you probably could cook it
  • [22:28:15] <artzzz> well, just wondering
  • [22:28:30] <artzzz> yes, well, this may be for a product that may lead the ambient temperature to reach 40-45C
  • [22:29:21] <jacekowski> IIRC omap has 50C ambient in datasheet
  • [22:29:45] <mru> the chip itself should be fine at least up to 70
  • [22:30:18] <jacekowski> running stuff above values from datasheet is like asking for a disaster
  • [22:30:57] <mru> I mean running with Tj of 70C is no problem
  • [22:31:13] <mru> Tj will always be higher than ambient
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  • [22:33:39] <artzzz> ok that is good info
  • [22:34:02] <artzzz> btw, I tried to install gpe-dm, but that depends on xorg-common, which is not a package itself, how does that work with ipkg?
  • [22:34:09] <woglinde> muaaha lol
  • [22:34:21] <artzzz> it is a .inc and folder of recipes in bb
  • [22:34:27] <woglinde> they should keep all tegras tree non public
  • [22:34:32] <woglinde> this much reverts
  • [22:34:38] <woglinde> I have never seen
  • [22:37:59] <mru> there, ccs confined in a sandbox of its own
  • [22:38:18] <woglinde> mru still fighting?
  • [22:38:24] <mru> I hate apps that you have to run as a different user to stop them spewing junk all over your homedir as if it were a windows machine
  • [22:38:38] <mru> I've done other things as well
  • [22:39:28] <mru> the evil thing puts almost 10MB of junk in 240 files scattered across the homedir
  • [22:39:50] <mru> just by running it once and exiting immediately
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  • [22:41:11] <woglinde_> re
  • [22:41:40] <mru> and for some crazy reason it creates a ~/.mozilla dir
  • [22:42:59] <woglinde_> hm thats maybee the eclipse plugin
  • [22:43:07] <woglinde_> for websurfing
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  • [22:43:38] <mru> madness is what it is
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  • [22:48:21] <woglinde_> mru sure
  • [22:48:29] <woglinde_> but customers wants eclipse
  • [22:48:45] <mru> do they really?
  • [22:48:46] <woglinde_> because the developers of the customers wants eclipse
  • [22:48:53] <mru> or do they PHBs want it?
  • [22:49:05] <woglinde_> phbs?
  • [22:49:13] <mru> you don't read dilbert?
  • [22:49:21] <woglinde_> hm hm
  • [22:49:22] <woglinde_> yes
  • [22:49:31] <woglinde_> we have even a calendar at work
  • [22:50:07] <mru> I mean, look around
  • [22:50:15] <mru> most of us here agree eclipse is a pig, right?
  • [22:50:42] <woglinde_> hm it has its nice sides
  • [22:50:52] <woglinde_> function tracing
  • [22:50:53] <mru> well, bacon is nice
  • [22:51:05] <mru> but I don't want a pig in my office
  • [22:51:13] <woglinde_> and the automake plugin with valgrind and oprofile isnt bad
  • [22:51:25] <mru> wtf is that?
  • [22:51:35] <woglinde_> c/c++ mode support
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  • [22:51:43] <mru> is typing "valgrind" too hard for people these days?
  • [22:51:49] <woglinde_> no
  • [22:51:49] <mru> besides, valgrind doesn't run on DSPs
  • [22:51:57] <woglinde_> but I can right jump to the code
  • [22:52:20] <woglinde_> he you said eclipse now
  • [22:52:23] <woglinde_> not ccs
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  • [22:52:42] <mru> you said they made ccs like that because customers want eclipse
  • [22:52:50] <mru> I just want to put some code on a dsp
  • [22:53:07] <woglinde_> yes I know
  • [22:53:16] <mru> and it makes me installe f*cking 4GB of junk to do so
  • [22:53:20] <mru> and still won't let me do it
  • [22:53:23] <woglinde_> people in india only knows eclipse
  • [22:54:01] <woglinde_> pushing the green run arrow makes all the stuff
  • [22:55:40] <ds2> eclipse is beyond a pig. pig is reserved for emacs ;)
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  • [23:10:46] <woglinde_> good nite
  • [23:10:53] <Viktator> good night :)
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  • [23:15:43] <mru> ds2: so what would you call eclipse?
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  • [23:18:07] <Crofton> emacs means "Eight Megs And Constantly Swapping"
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  • [23:20:15] <mru> Crofton: that's one meaning of it
  • [23:20:33] <mru> one of my favourites is "emacs makes any computer slow"
  • [23:20:47] <mru> also "escape meta alt control shift"
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  • [23:23:17] <ds2> mru: eclipse has eclipsed the range of known langauges
  • [23:26:09] <mru> I suppose it has
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  • [23:29:32] <Pradeep> I have connected a ZyDas USb dongle to my beagleboard running Angstrom 2.6.35-rc3 PM kernel. When I plug in the USB, I can see that the USB device is detected, But zd1211 firmware is not even requested. root@beagleboard:/# [ 434.559387] usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 2 [ 437.118957] usb 1-2: new high speed USB device using ehci-omap and address 3 [ 437.276336] usb 1-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0ace, idProduct=1215 [ 43
  • [23:30:00] <Pradeep> I dont see this issue when I am connecting a ASIX USB ethernet port. I think I am making some config errors. Anyone faced this issue before? How do I check if zd1211rw is properly loaded? Thanks Pradeep
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