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  • [00:03:40] <djlewis_> we need a ten most common links for bbquestionsw
  • [00:03:49] <djlewis_> beagleboard questions
  • [00:04:03] <djlewis_> or would the list make the top 100?
  • [00:04:56] <aholler> such is named a faq and beagleboard.org already offers one
  • [00:05:17] <aholler> but people don't like to read, they like to ask
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  • [00:06:59] <aholler> you could write whatever you wish, they still would ask because asking is faster
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  • [00:08:36] <W1N9Zr0> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardFAQ#Display_resolutions_.231 says "set boot arguments" with no explaination of how to set them, and those arguments are wrong for the xM
  • [00:08:41] <rcn-ee_> djlewis_, you got the ttyS2/ttyO2, mkimage/boot.scr ones right? ;)
  • [00:09:22] <rcn-ee_> W1N9Zr0, set them in your boot.scr or nand, etc..
  • [00:09:59] <aholler> W1N9Zr0: I haven't said the faq is usefull, I've just stated that one exists ;)
  • [00:10:08] <W1N9Zr0> great
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  • [00:10:41] <rcn-ee_> W1N9Zr0, for dvi: usually you set the resolution : setenv dvimode 1280x720MR-16@60 then in your bootarg you got: omapfb.mode=dvi:${dvimode}
  • [00:10:43] <aholler> things are changing, the xm might not have existed when the faq was written
  • [00:11:35] <djlewis_> rcn-ee_: oh yeah... :)
  • [00:12:11] <rcn-ee_> do you want old stuff like: the musb host vs device setting for otg.. (thank god those are over)
  • [00:14:56] <smplman> rcn-ee, do you know if usb monitor console support is available in ubuntu 10.10 on an XM
  • [00:15:56] <rcn-ee_> smplman, like the sis usb devices? i know the kernel config is enabled, but never tried/tested the hardware my self so... cross fingers.. sure..
  • [00:16:43] <smplman> rcn-ee, what would i need to set my boot arg to? LCD?
  • [00:16:49] <rcn-ee_> right now don't you have to have xorg running to set those up? i know i saw some kms/drm patches for 2.6.39 that would be for console support..
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  • [00:17:16] <smplman> i have x running fine except for axis inversion on the touchscreen
  • [00:17:50] <smplman> i want to enable console support so i don't have to use the hdmi connection
  • [00:18:46] <rcn-ee_> smplman, what chipset is that sis device?
  • [00:19:03] <smplman> rcn-ee, eGalaxy
  • [00:19:34] <smplman> rcn-ee, they have x86 drivers but, none for arm
  • [00:19:55] <smplman> but i have it working fine in X, i just want to enable the console
  • [00:20:47] <rcn-ee_> actually since you got that one working good in X.. you should throw up a howto on one of the wiki's there's quite a few user's who have trouble with that...
  • [00:21:05] <rcn-ee_> for just console, i'm not sure.. cause it's only xorg driven right now right?
  • [00:21:13] <smplman> yes
  • [00:21:38] <smplman> mainly xorg.conf settings
  • [00:21:48] <smplman> where do you thin a good place to post would be?
  • [00:22:27] <rcn-ee_> smplman, i think this is the start of what you need: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/airlied/drm-2.6.git;a=commit;h=a250b9fdc53a286d32e22f21170382a46b3a3ef5 it's staged for merging into 2.6.39
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  • [00:24:08] <aholler> for console a framebuffer is enough
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  • [00:26:52] <aholler> try using the map-paramter of fbcon
  • [00:27:25] <aholler> or just disable the omapfb so that your fb will get the first one
  • [00:28:26] <smplman> aholler, how would i disable the omapfb
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  • [00:28:53] <aholler> kernel-config, or module-blacklist
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  • [00:29:39] <smplman> im assuming the module is omapfb
  • [00:29:51] <aholler> udlfb has interesting options to, try modinfo udlfb
  • [00:30:45] <rcn-ee_> i wonder if udlfb has any boot time options?
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  • [00:32:00] <smplman> aholler, yea looks good
  • [00:32:20] <rcn-ee_> smplman, http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-driver-devel/msg07429.html modprobe settings..
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  • [00:34:57] <smplman> no luck, if its blacklisted could i still modprobe it?
  • [00:35:26] <rcn-ee_> blacklisted? can you unlist it?
  • [00:35:34] <smplman> im looking to see
  • [00:36:00] <aholler> rcn-ee_: it has two
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  • [00:36:56] <smplman> rcn-ee, not blacklisted
  • [00:37:17] <rcn-ee_> laughs, needs to put the beer dow..
  • [00:37:20] <smplman> there are a bunch of frame buffer modules blacklisted
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  • [00:39:59] <aholler> smplman: just try console=tty0 fbcon=map:3 or udlfb.console=1 in the kernel-cmdline
  • [00:40:41] <aholler> one of them should work, if not both
  • [00:41:18] <smplman> aholler, i blacklisted omapfb. I will try next.
  • [00:42:25] <smplman> man all i get is a green screen
  • [00:42:30] <aholler> the 3 in the map depends on how many fb's are configured for omap
  • [00:43:54] <aholler> tty0 might have to be tty1
  • [00:44:25] <smplman> aholler, nothing. sudo?
  • [00:44:32] <aholler> ?
  • [00:44:46] <smplman> should i be running them as root?
  • [00:44:46] <rcn-ee_> or drop the console=tty0... ubuntu seem's to find the monitor when that's even gone..
  • [00:45:19] <smplman> still nothing, just a green screen
  • [00:46:41] <aholler> try with map:2
  • [00:47:14] <prpplague> DJWillis: being doing alot of work from home in the evening
  • [00:47:37] <prpplague> oops wrong nick
  • [00:47:50] <aholler> and if you use the map-parameter, omapfb has to be enabled ;)
  • [00:49:43] <aholler> linux/Documentation/fb/fbcon.txt has documentation about what that map does
  • [00:51:24] <smplman> aholler, added kernel boot cmd and un blacklisted omapfb
  • [00:53:32] <smplman> aholler, still just a green screen
  • [00:53:49] <aholler> how many fbs do you have in /dev?
  • [00:54:23] <smplman> fb{0-4}
  • [00:54:37] <aholler> so try map:4
  • [00:54:43] <smplman> i did
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  • [00:55:12] <aholler> btw, it seems currently I've just using options udlfb console=1 fb_defio=1, but I'm sure fbcon=map:3 worked too
  • [00:55:40] <smplman> i know its /dev/fb3 because thats what i configured X to use
  • [00:56:40] <aholler> just throw "options udlfb console=1 fb_defio=1" into a file in /etc/modprobe.d maybe that works
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  • [00:57:55] <smplman> aholler, rebooting now
  • [00:58:51] <smplman> still green screen
  • [00:59:08] <smplman> would it matter the order the modules are loaded in?
  • [00:59:10] <aholler> but modinfo udlfb shows these parameters?
  • [00:59:40] <aholler> don't know when they've got added
  • [01:00:13] <smplman> console:Allow fbcon to consume first framebuffer found (bool)
  • [01:00:26] <smplman> fb_defio:Enable fb_defio mmap support. *Experimental* (bool)
  • [01:01:37] <aholler> jupp, then I can't help further, I've used either fbcon=map:N, those options, or just disabled the dss-fbs. all has done the trick here
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  • [01:02:24] <aholler> be sure toremove the quiet from the bootargs ;)
  • [01:02:25] <smplman> dss-fbs?
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  • [01:02:54] <aholler> disabled omapfb in the kernel-config, should be the same like blacklisting the module
  • [01:03:12] <aholler> the result is that udlfb will be the first and only fb
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  • [01:04:15] <smplman> aholler, if i change the config i have to recompile the kernel?
  • [01:04:41] <aholler> yes, therefor just blacklist it and have a look at how many fbs are in /dev afterwards
  • [01:05:47] <smplman> aholler, rebooting now
  • [01:06:58] <smplman> aholler, same
  • [01:08:18] <smplman> would tty matter in the boot command?
  • [01:08:57] <aholler> try console=tty1 and be sure to remove any quiet or splash
  • [01:09:34] <aholler> but it could be that the omap-framebuffer is included in the kernel, don't know
  • [01:10:07] <aholler> anyway, I don't know more than those 3 tricks I told you
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  • [01:11:19] <smplman> aholler, cool i will keep pounding away. Thanks for your help
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  • [01:12:43] <smplman> aholler, im reconfiguring the kernel, what should i be lloking to enable or disable?
  • [01:13:29] <aholler> depends on your kernel, I don't know them all. try / and enter omap
  • [01:13:51] <aholler> almost every options has a help too
  • [01:14:04] <smplman> im in the menu config
  • [01:14:12] <aholler> exactly there
  • [01:14:57] <smplman> Map the console to the primary display device
  • [01:14:58] <smplman> ?
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  • [01:16:34] <aholler> no, just disable the module at all
  • [01:16:47] <aholler> then that option disappears
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  • [01:18:05] <smplman> Symbol: FB_OMAP_031M3R [=n]
  • [01:18:08] <smplman> ?
  • [01:19:38] <smplman> omapfb : sdi, dsi?
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  • [01:20:55] <aholler> disable omapfb, I think you shouldn't try to reconfigure the kernel, bad things might happen ;)
  • [01:21:28] <smplman> i also found display link USB framebuffer support, loaded as a module
  • [01:22:51] <smplman> omap2+ framebuffer support?
  • [01:22:58] <smplman> disable that?
  • [01:30:53] <vielste> Has anyone else experience issues with slooooooowww accesses to L4 peripherals?
  • [01:31:28] <vielste> I wrote a little test script and I get around 250ns access time to anything tied to the L4 interconnect
  • [01:32:25] <aholler> I'm experiencing no access time for devices attached to ehci (in u-boot) if that counts ;)
  • [01:33:04] <prpplague> anyone heard from Linux Foundation on their Call For Papers on the ELC in april?
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  • [01:36:38] <vielste> I know that the L4 interconnect is clocked at 83MHz (and verified) but it doesn't respond as such
  • [01:37:12] <vielste> additionally, the ethernet device on the GPMC (LAN9221) also has similar access time
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  • [01:44:53] <aholler> slow, slow, slow the boat, ... ;)
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  • [02:36:20] <Crofton|work> prpplague, no
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  • [02:37:10] <prpplague> Crofton|work: ok, i thought i was just the TI and pandaboard teams
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  • [03:19:18] <prpplague> Crofton|work: did you submit a paper?
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  • [03:20:18] <beagle2> does anyone have some good sites they reccomend for beagleBoard cases?
  • [03:20:27] <beagle2> Google is being uncooperative.
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  • [03:21:59] <Crofton|work> yeah
  • [03:22:02] <prpplague> beagle2: special computing has some acrylic cases and sparkfun has a metal one
  • [03:22:41] * prpplague jokes with Crofton|work
  • [03:23:03] <prpplague> Crofton|work: "decoding alien crop circle signals using SDR" ?
  • [03:23:37] <Crofton|work> something like that
  • [03:23:39] <Crofton|work> :)
  • [03:23:45] <prpplague> Crofton|work: hehe
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  • [03:34:21] <beagle2> i take it a rev C3 case won't fit with a rev C4 board...?
  • [03:34:37] <beagle2> like, dimension-wise is it ok, and I just have to drill some holes in it?
  • [03:35:06] <beagle2> cause i found one laying around, that I think is a C3 and in addition to missing holes, it appears to be too small for my C4's footprint...
  • [03:38:40] <beagle2> nm, got it with some finagling :)
  • [03:38:50] <beagle2> so...anyone know a good way to drill holes in acrylic? :)
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  • [03:48:54] <beagle2> hmmm, my screws don't seem long enough....
  • [03:49:14] <beagle2> and i can;'t find a case tutorial online, because i assume it is suppose to be a simple thing...?
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  • [04:09:12] <beagle2> can anyone walk me through how to get C++ code on my Beagle running Angstrom?
  • [04:09:29] <beagle2> i just ran 'opkg update',
  • [04:10:12] <beagle2> and I'm working off a fresh demo image from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/sd-images/2gb/
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  • [04:35:05] <smplman> aholler, yea that worked like a champ, thanks
  • [04:35:44] <djerome> apart from the crazy obvious, has anyone seen u-boot load the same file for uImage and uInitrd?
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  • [04:36:11] <beagle2> hey, can someone help me conenct up my BB to the internet real quick?
  • [04:36:17] <beagle2> i have the USB-to-ethernet,
  • [04:36:30] <beagle2> and i THOUGHT i had it running a few days ago,
  • [04:36:48] <beagle2> but now it says 'media disconnected' in my Gnome environment
  • [04:37:53] <beagle2> nm, got it
  • [04:38:01] <beagle2> apparently it didn'tl ike my router...
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  • [04:39:38] <NotTooDumb3> is s-video supported by bb angstrom demo image? and how to test s-video?
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  • [04:42:03] <smplman> so i recompiled my kernel to disable omapfb and now my ethernet doesn't work.
  • [04:43:15] <NotTooDumb3> smplman, can you please tell me how to disable omapfb?
  • [04:44:34] <smplman> go into your kernel sources and run make menuconfig. its under driver, video, OMAP2+, framebuffer
  • [04:45:36] <djerome> anyone willing to do an alpha test of ttylinux for beagle board? http://ttylinux.net/Test/boot.zip
  • [04:46:14] <djerome> i've got no beagle board hardware :(
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  • [04:47:12] <NotTooDumb3> smplman, if you have disabled omafb, did you load any other display driver? otherwise how would your display work?
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  • [04:47:46] <NotTooDumb3> djerome, what has to be tested exactly? i can test it, if i will be able to
  • [04:47:51] <beagle2> hmmm, my opkg seems to be broken...
  • [04:48:02] <smplman> NotTooDumb3, uldfb at the moment.
  • [04:48:09] <smplman> x fails to start
  • [04:48:27] <NotTooDumb3> like the command, startx?
  • [04:48:46] <smplman> yes because i used omapfb in my xorg.conf, im fixing now
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  • [04:49:24] <djerome> NotTooDumb3, just see if it even boots. if it does i'd like a log of the serial port output
  • [04:49:48] <NotTooDumb3> djerome, Sure. i am just downloading that zip
  • [04:49:56] <NotTooDumb3> i have C3, will that do for you?
  • [04:50:46] <djerome> NotTooDumb3, last time earlier today, someone told me that u-boot found the same file of uImage and uInitrd
  • [04:50:46] <NotTooDumb3> smplman, where do we find xorg.conf? and how did you compile your source code? i just did with demo image till now, need to compile from source now
  • [04:51:10] <djerome> NotTooDumb3, i think the c3 would work too
  • [04:51:19] <NotTooDumb3> ok download done
  • [04:51:41] <djerome> it's just a zip of the sd card files
  • [04:51:57] <NotTooDumb3> djerome, can you please tell me in which order i have to copy those files and to which partitions?
  • [04:52:11] <NotTooDumb3> yes, there are more than 4 but..demo image had only 4
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  • [04:53:02] <djerome> the first partition, being fat16, should have mlo, u-boot.bin, uImage, uInitrd, boot.scr and user.scr
  • [04:53:13] <djerome> in that oreder
  • [04:53:53] <NotTooDumb3> and second partition, untar of Ang..from demo image? or nothing in second partition?
  • [04:54:08] <djerome> it will ignore the other partition
  • [04:54:42] <NotTooDumb3> oh..ok
  • [04:55:08] <djerome> ttylinux uses a ram disk, the root file system will be in ram
  • [04:56:44] <NotTooDumb3> which one is ram out of those files?
  • [04:57:09] <smplman> yea disabling omapfb has x all misconfigured now
  • [04:57:12] <djerome> uInitrd
  • [04:57:40] <djerome> it is not a cpio archive, but a real file system
  • [04:58:34] <NotTooDumb3> i do not know what is cpio archive, it's not booting up
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  • [04:58:59] <NotTooDumb3> djerome, how can i send you log file?
  • [04:59:01] <djerome> what's on the serial port, or do you use that?
  • [04:59:13] <NotTooDumb3> yep i use serial port..
  • [04:59:21] <djerome> douglas@ttylinux.org
  • [04:59:45] <NotTooDumb3> http://pastebin.com/Ej959a2N
  • [04:59:47] <djerome> i bet it looks like u-boot loaded the kernel for the initrd
  • [05:00:24] <NotTooDumb3> please look at the paste, i think u-boot tried to load the kernel, but not successfully
  • [05:00:26] <djerome> :/
  • [05:00:55] <NotTooDumb3> smplman, are you checking that in x conf file?
  • [05:00:56] <djerome> oh, i see "mmc 0:1 " must be an xm thing
  • [05:01:11] <NotTooDumb3> but i have c3, not xm
  • [05:01:26] <djerome> yep. maybe try again in a few if you have time
  • [05:01:41] <NotTooDumb3> ok
  • [05:01:43] <smplman> NotTooDumb3, yes
  • [05:02:22] <NotTooDumb3> what are you trying to do? started worked with omapfb, and now you changed omapfb with other fb and trying to make startx work.is it?
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  • [05:03:28] <NotTooDumb3> *startx
  • [05:04:50] <beagle2> how to i fix the issue when my 'opkg update' hangs on a particular line in the terminal?
  • [05:07:41] <NotTooDumb3> djerome, i tried 3 4 times..same status
  • [05:08:26] <djerome> NotTooDumb3, thanks. i uploaded a new one.
  • [05:08:39] <NotTooDumb3> do you want me to test that?
  • [05:08:49] <djerome> NotTooDumb3, yes, please. thanks much for help
  • [05:09:36] <NotTooDumb3> np..my pleasure.link for boot?
  • [05:10:17] <djerome> same url http://ttylinux.net/Test/boot.zip
  • [05:10:46] <NotTooDumb3> ok..i will test
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  • [05:19:51] <NotTooDumb3> djerome, looks like the zip file is broken..giving error while opening it
  • [05:19:57] <NotTooDumb3> please check it once
  • [05:20:43] <djerome> Oo, i'll upload again
  • [05:21:15] <NotTooDumb3> ok..
  • [05:22:14] <smplman> okay, now x runs but the touchscreen drivers are messed up
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  • [05:24:40] <djerome> md5sum boot.zip 52df1ed8bd76af49244fd66f21f4370c boot.zip
  • [05:25:00] <djerome> NotTooDumb3, please try again, that is the md5sum
  • [05:25:18] <NotTooDumb3> same link?
  • [05:25:21] <djerome> yes
  • [05:25:32] <NotTooDumb3> ok
  • [05:25:43] <NotTooDumb3> name is boot.zip?
  • [05:26:14] <NotTooDumb3> what md5sum you are telling?
  • [05:26:32] <NotTooDumb3> it's downloading boot.zip..
  • [05:28:07] <djerome> If you are using Linux, use the skell command "md5sum boot.zip"
  • [05:33:40] <smplman> how can i see what driver are currently loaded?
  • [05:34:59] <djerome> smplman, if you mean kernel modules, you can use "lsmod" on the shell command line
  • [05:36:20] <NotTooDumb3> djerome, same messages,not booting up
  • [05:36:44] <NotTooDumb3> djerome, oh so if i run md5sum boot.zip no need to download from that website?
  • [05:36:45] <djerome> same? ...
  • [05:36:52] <NotTooDumb3> yes
  • [05:37:04] <djerome> no, no. after download you can check the file
  • [05:37:25] <djerome> canyou post the serial ooutput?
  • [05:37:45] <NotTooDumb3> http://pastebin.com/7Y3FVwgT
  • [05:38:05] <djerome> Oo
  • [05:38:37] <djerome> i'm confusered ...
  • [05:39:26] <djerome> thanks though. thanks much.
  • [05:42:03] <NotTooDumb3> np..if anything else has to be tested, ping me
  • [05:43:39] <djerome> that was the new boot.scr file? it shouldn't have "mmc 0:1" in it, just "mmc 0"
  • [05:44:28] <NotTooDumb3> must be new one, as i deleted all previous files
  • [05:45:08] <NotTooDumb3> do you feel, i did a mistake? i will check after some time..i will delete all previous folders and .zip files..
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  • [05:45:49] <djerome> maybe i misunderstand the command that goes in boot.cmd
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  • [05:46:21] <NotTooDumb3> oh..your words appear like greek n latin to me..what are mmc 0:1 and mmc 0?
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  • [05:46:43] <NotTooDumb3> i deleted all files and folders..will download afresh and test..let's see
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  • [05:47:06] <djerome> if you edit the boot.scr file and ignore the garbage at the begining, you will see the u-boot commands to load the kernel and initrd into memory
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  • [05:48:08] <NotTooDumb3> oh..hey how come? i deleted all previous files from my directory, and tried to download but download did not take any time and got completed in a sec now
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  • [05:48:20] <djerome> should be like "fatload mmc 0 <mem addr> uImage"
  • [05:49:04] <djerome> NotTooDumb3, i think your browser cached the download on you computer
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  • [05:49:27] <NotTooDumb3> oh..how to delete that cache too?
  • [05:49:42] <NotTooDumb3> djerome, those statements are in boot.scr?
  • [05:50:29] <djerome> NotTooDumb3, yes, in boot.scr. maybe retype the url
  • [05:54:54] <NotTooDumb3> djerome, give me some time..i will check that with sys admin..even retyping is not downloading
  • [05:58:04] <NotTooDumb3> djerome, emptied the cache, downloading now
  • [06:02:01] <NotTooDumb3> did anyone run echo 'tv' > /sys/class/display_control/omap_disp_control and stream_video on bb?
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  • [06:08:51] <NotTooDumb3> djerome, newly downloaded one not booting up too
  • [06:09:38] <NotTooDumb3> serial output is here http://pastebin.com/5gJiY5rd
  • [06:10:21] <NotTooDumb3> can anyone please tell me why do i get this error? -bash: /sys/class/display control/omap_disp control: No such file or directory and how to make s-video to work?
  • [06:10:28] <djerome> was away. thanks though
  • [06:11:05] <NotTooDumb3> np..but how come it still shows mmc 0:1 then? when you are expecting mmc 0?
  • [06:11:31] <djerome> NotTooDumb3, i really don't understand that part
  • [06:11:40] <NotTooDumb3> oh..ok
  • [06:13:34] <djerome> NotTooDumb3, do you still have it on the sd card?
  • [06:13:53] <NotTooDumb3> yep
  • [06:14:05] <djerome> can you interrupt the boot and type a command
  • [06:14:49] <NotTooDumb3> ya what's the command?
  • [06:15:05] <djerome> first coamand: mmc init
  • [06:15:16] <djerome> second command: fatload mmc 0 0x80300000 uImage
  • [06:15:37] <NotTooDumb3> ok i will
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  • [06:16:31] <NotTooDumb3> OMAP3 beagleboard.org # fatload mmc 0 0x80300000 uImage MMC: block number 0x1 exceeds max(0x0) ** Can't read from device 0 ** ** Unable to use mmc 0:1 for fatload **
  • [06:16:38] <djerome> Oo
  • [06:16:40] <NotTooDumb3> mmc init command worked calm fine..
  • [06:16:52] <NotTooDumb3> what do those messages and commands mean?
  • [06:17:38] <djerome> it should've loaded the kernel into memory
  • [06:17:52] <djerome> from the sd card
  • [06:18:05] <NotTooDumb3> but not doing so is it?
  • [06:18:31] <NotTooDumb3> and what do those can't read from mean? nothing is loaded in memory?
  • [06:18:33] <djerome> nope. i dun know what's wrong
  • [06:18:55] <djerome> it can't get the kernel file uImage, from the sd card
  • [06:19:10] <NotTooDumb3> haan? how come?
  • [06:20:50] <djerome> well, "block number 0x1 exceeds max(0x0)"
  • [06:22:18] <NotTooDumb3> what does that message mean? block number exceeds 0 --> no Kernel Image found?
  • [06:23:17] <djerome> i'm not sure what means "block number". maybe the kernel is too far from the begining of the partition...
  • [06:23:27] <djerome> but i don't know how that would be
  • [06:24:13] <djerome> can you try: fatload mmc 0:0 0x80300000 uImage
  • [06:24:42] <NotTooDumb3> fatload mmc 0:0 0x80300000 uImage MMC: block number 0x1 exceeds max(0x0) ** Can't read from device 0 ** ** Unable to use mmc 0:0 for fatload **
  • [06:24:54] <djerome> heh
  • [06:25:23] <djerome> err, what happens with this command: mmcinit
  • [06:25:50] <NotTooDumb3> actually mmcinit was giving error, mmc init works
  • [06:25:54] <djerome> yeah
  • [06:26:01] <NotTooDumb3> mmcinit Unknown command 'mmcinit' - try 'help'
  • [06:26:17] <NotTooDumb3> mmc init works without giving any messages at all
  • [06:26:32] <NotTooDumb3> mmc init OMAP3 beagleboard.org #
  • [06:26:47] <djerome> the last thing i can think of is all lower case name for uimage
  • [06:27:27] <NotTooDumb3> do you want me to rename that and test or you have to do that and send?
  • [06:27:52] <djerome> no, i mean just type it. maybe the name actually is all lowercase
  • [06:28:06] <djerome> ima wild guessing at nonsense, i think
  • [06:28:47] <NotTooDumb3> in .zip file name is uimage, do you want me to mv that to uImage and test?
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  • [06:29:01] <NotTooDumb3> ok ok i will type the command uimage
  • [06:29:15] <NotTooDumb3> Unknown command 'uimage' - try 'help'
  • [06:29:59] <djerome> now, i mean: fatload mmc 0:0 0x80300000 uimage
  • [06:30:44] <NotTooDumb3> fatload mmc 0:0 0x80300000 uimage MMC: block number 0x1 exceeds max(0x0) ** Can't read from device 0 ** ** Unable to use mmc 0:0 for fatload **
  • [06:31:34] <NotTooDumb3> fatload mmc 0 0x80300000 uimage MMC: block number 0x1 exceeds max(0x0) ** Can't read from device 0 ** ** Unable to use mmc 0:0 for fatload **
  • [06:33:06] <djerome> i think i found something with google.
  • [06:33:31] <djerome> https://bugs.launchpad.net/linaro-image-tools/+bug/707127/comments/17
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  • [06:37:07] <djerome> what happens with this command: fatls mmc 0
  • [06:37:50] <NotTooDumb3> printenv here http://pastebin.com/K8KErjp7
  • [06:38:18] <NotTooDumb3> fatls mmc 0 MMC: block number 0x1 exceeds max(0x0) ** Can't read from device 0 ** ** Unable to use mmc 0:1 for fatls **
  • [06:38:27] <djerome> yeah
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  • [06:40:49] <NotTooDumb3> got to know something?
  • [06:41:55] <djerome> what happens with: mmc rescan 0
  • [06:43:06] <NotTooDumb3> mmc rescan 0 OMAP3 beagleboard.org #
  • [06:43:44] <djerome> does thethis work: fatls mmc 0
  • [06:44:26] <NotTooDumb3> http://pastebin.com/bZQn9EmH
  • [06:44:35] <djerome> yay
  • [06:45:01] <djerome> try: fatload mmc 0 0x80300000 uImage
  • [06:45:05] <NotTooDumb3> what does that command do?
  • [06:45:18] <djerome> it should load the kernel into ram
  • [06:45:31] <NotTooDumb3> fatload mmc 0 0x80300000 uImage reading uImage 4271396 bytes read OMAP3 beagleboard.org #
  • [06:45:35] <djerome> yay
  • [06:45:52] <djerome> try this: fatload mmc 0 0x81600000 uInitrd
  • [06:45:56] <NotTooDumb3> is ram on mmc?
  • [06:46:03] <NotTooDumb3> what is fatls? file systems??
  • [06:46:24] <djerome> nno, the ram is the 256MB ram, or whatever the size is
  • [06:46:27] <NotTooDumb3> fatload mmc 0 0x81600000 uInitrd reading uInitrd 15458252 bytes read OMAP3 beagleboard.org #
  • [06:46:36] <djerome> yay
  • [06:46:43] <NotTooDumb3> where does ram reside?on board??
  • [06:46:47] <djerome> the kernel and ramdisk are in memory
  • [06:46:58] <NotTooDumb3> good congrats..
  • [06:47:06] <djerome> yes, on the board, probably covering the omap chip
  • [06:47:16] <djerome> so, you can boot it now
  • [06:47:17] <NotTooDumb3> fatload mmc 0 0x81600000 uInitrd these commands loaded them in memory is it?
  • [06:47:23] <djerome> yes
  • [06:47:32] <djerome> try: boot
  • [06:47:47] <djerome> err
  • [06:47:59] <djerome> maybe try: bootm 0x80300000 0x81600000
  • [06:48:02] <NotTooDumb3> how come you loaded only 2 files in mem?
  • [06:48:14] <djerome> kernel and ramdisk are all it needs
  • [06:48:37] <djerome> the program you are typing to is the u-boot.bin from the sd card
  • [06:48:53] <NotTooDumb3> http://pastebin.com/qeyTag6f
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  • [06:49:04] <djerome> aha
  • [06:49:23] <djerome> bummer
  • [06:49:39] <NotTooDumb3> pasteacbin.com/YrVkwaqf
  • [06:51:02] <djerome> bummer
  • [06:52:00] <djerome> i wonder if 80300000 was wrong for bb c3
  • [06:52:50] <NotTooDumb3> i don't think so..even i remember seeing that number somewhere before
  • [06:52:59] <djerome> well, i can't say thanks enough
  • [06:53:36] <djerome> so: thanks, but i need to get to sleep now
  • [06:54:02] <NotTooDumb3> np..good night..no worries..
  • [06:54:12] <djerome> good night
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  • [07:01:20] <NotTooDumb3> smplman, do you work on s-video on bb?
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  • [07:30:22] <av500> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7N23uGyJI0
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  • [07:35:39] <NotTooDumb3> av500, any help in making any videos to work on bb through demo image?
  • [07:36:55] <NotTooDumb3> there is no such file like this echo 'tv' > /sys/class/display_control/omap_disp_control/graphics and there are no contents in /sys/class/display/
  • [07:37:29] <av500> /sys/devices/platform/omapdss/
  • [07:39:31] <av500> NotTooDumb3: please start to use google, it'
  • [07:39:34] <av500> NotTooDumb3: please start to use google, it's free
  • [07:43:04] <ddd> Hi, av500, any h.264 encoder has been done by OMAP3? How about the speed by GPP+DSP? thank you
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  • [07:46:14] <av500> yes, there are H264 encoders on the DSP
  • [07:46:24] <av500> iirc, the BP one is even free
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  • [07:50:11] <ddd_> av500, sorry , what is iirc?
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  • [07:53:14] <av500> http://www.google.com/search?q=iirc+irc
  • [07:53:39] <av500> http://www.google.com/search?q=iirc
  • [07:54:50] <av500> ddd_: http://software-dl.ti.com/dsps/dsps_public_sw/codecs/OMAP35xx/index_FDS.html
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  • [07:59:05] <ddd_> thanks, av500, i visited it b4, it is .bin file.
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  • [07:59:44] <av500> the data sheet is in pdf
  • [08:00:09] <av500> and the .bin is some selfextracting executable
  • [08:00:47] <ddd_> yeah, i did download it
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  • [08:16:51] <aholler> got an omap44 or why?
  • [08:18:42] <NotTooDumb3> i did not find any good document to work with s-video on bb..any help?
  • [08:19:53] <aholler> search harder
  • [08:19:56] <av500> aholler: coworker brought it from EW
  • [08:24:05] <aholler> NotTooDumb3: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=beagleboard+svideo
  • [08:24:21] <aholler> just in case noone showed you howto use google
  • [08:25:04] <NotTooDumb3> aholler, i went through those links..
  • [08:26:32] <NotTooDumb3> my xrandr says can't open display..is that something wrong?
  • [08:27:10] <av500> aholler: issue is that most docs refer to /sys/class/display_control/omap_disp_control which is from some ancient DSS
  • [08:28:52] <aholler> as svideo
  • [08:30:29] <av500> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#NTSC
  • [08:30:33] <av500> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#PAL
  • [08:30:47] <av500> might as well work in angstrom
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  • [08:33:03] <NotTooDumb3> i am trying
  • [08:33:49] <NotTooDumb3> av500, yes all the links i went through are showing display_control, where there is no directory like that at all
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  • [08:35:39] <NotTooDumb3> av500, any idea why is echo 'tv' > ... suggested?
  • [08:36:06] <NotTooDumb3> i am seeing some display with Angstrom word and some symbol on tv now
  • [08:36:06] <av500> NotTooDumb3: do you understand the nature of the "internet"?
  • [08:36:15] <NotTooDumb3> no
  • [08:36:37] <av500> stuff gets written, but not always unwritten
  • [08:36:53] <av500> and I wrote it already:
  • [08:36:57] <av500> [09:27:10] <av500> aholler: issue is that most docs refer to /sys/class/display_control/omap_disp_control which is from some ancient DSS
  • [08:37:29] <NotTooDumb3> yes i was just confirming your statement as i am going through that today..
  • [08:37:44] <NotTooDumb3> ok yes you correctly said, get written but not unwritten
  • [08:39:24] <av500> aholler: http://www.flickr.com/photos/av500/5496017973/
  • [08:40:03] <aholler> looks like you've got a bb-xm too ;)
  • [08:40:11] <av500> read the comment
  • [08:40:44] <Russ> did the board come attached to the cap?
  • [08:41:00] <Russ> and if not, which capacitor on that board come from EW?
  • [08:41:12] <av500> 100nF
  • [08:41:46] <aholler> they should have give him at least an evalbot ;)
  • [08:42:06] <Russ> did it at least have a good dielectric?
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  • [08:43:35] <NotTooDumb3> hwclock: can't open '/dev/misc/rtc': No such file or directory is this a serious error? there are few more statements after this, and then hangs
  • [08:44:57] <NotTooDumb3> [ 63.759094] File /OE/angstrom-dev/work/beagleboard-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/ti-linuxutils-1_2_25_05_11-r97d/linuxutils_2_25_05_11/packages/ti/sdo/linuxuti ls/sdma/src/module/sdmak.c it hangs after this..any suggestions please?
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  • [08:45:42] <aholler> strings /dev/urandom
  • [08:46:01] <av500> NotTooDumb3: you should have learned how to paste error messages by now
  • [08:46:26] <av500> also: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
  • [08:46:27] <NotTooDumb3> i knew that before also
  • [08:47:44] <av500> NotTooDumb3: always imagine that people are not standing behind your back and cannot see your monitor
  • [08:48:01] <NotTooDumb3> umm..ok
  • [08:53:10] <NotTooDumb3> av500, any idea what is this file? /OE/angstrom-dev/work/beagleboard-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/ti-linuxutils-1_2_25_05_11-r97d/linuxutils_2_25_05_11/packages/ti/sdo/linuxutils/sdma/src/module/sdmak.c..what is it trying to do here?
  • [08:54:05] <av500> what are you trying to do "here"? and what is "here"?
  • [08:54:28] <av500> [09:47:43] <av500> NotTooDumb3: always imagine that people are not standing behind your back and cannot see your monitor
  • [08:54:35] <NotTooDumb3> ok..here means in kernel bootup
  • [08:54:39] <NotTooDumb3> oh..sorry
  • [08:55:01] <av500> [09:46:01] <av500> NotTooDumb3: you should have learned how to paste error messages by now
  • [08:57:39] <NotTooDumb3> av500, i do not know how to do this...that is the reason why i am seeking your help...any advice about this boot procedure? http://pastebin.com/KjbuBKK9
  • [08:58:57] <av500> ah, finally
  • [08:59:01] <av500> now, was that hard?
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  • [08:59:21] <NotTooDumb3> hard for me, not sure for others
  • [08:59:37] <NotTooDumb3> solving that problem was hard, not pasting to pastebin
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  • [09:00:18] <av500> see, so why did you not use pastebin?
  • [09:00:52] <av500> you spent enouhg time here to have seen that used in this channel
  • [09:00:54] <NotTooDumb3> dont know..did not get idea
  • [09:01:42] <av500> you miss some "mem=..." in your kernel command line
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  • [09:02:18] <NotTooDumb3> you mean bootargs?
  • [09:02:21] <av500> yes
  • [09:03:01] <av500> is this the demo image? if yes, there should be bootargs with the proper mem= given
  • [09:03:16] <NotTooDumb3> yes this is demo image
  • [09:03:32] <av500> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [09:03:37] <NotTooDumb3> every time i copy uboot, uimage etc., do bootargs change?
  • [09:03:44] <NotTooDumb3> yes got from same link
  • [09:03:55] <av500> so: "If you want to use the DSP,...."
  • [09:04:25] <NotTooDumb3> i am not working on DSP now
  • [09:05:07] <av500> yes, but the demo image still tries to load cmem
  • [09:06:02] <NotTooDumb3> cmem meaning?
  • [09:06:09] <NotTooDumb3> ok mem..
  • [09:07:40] <av500> CMEM
  • [09:08:12] <NotTooDumb3> ok..
  • [09:09:39] <NotTooDumb3> do i have to follow mmc init etc., steps in http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ ?
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  • [09:11:13] <av500> "If you want to flash MLO and u-boot to NAND, these are the u-boot commands you need to use:..."
  • [09:14:49] <NotTooDumb3> do i need to run all these commands now? http://pastebin.com/B5ajdDg9
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  • [09:16:54] <av500> NotTooDumb3: sorry, I give up
  • [09:17:28] <aholler> I think he get payed by one of TIs competitors, "go to this channel and make the people to see red" ;)
  • [09:18:49] <NotTooDumb3> no forgive me..i am annoying you people too much
  • [09:19:42] <NotTooDumb3> how to get default bootargs? i kept on changing them, now kernel hangs
  • [09:20:20] <av500> aholler: no idea, but when I end up googling other people questions and pasting the results, I get bored...
  • [09:21:46] <aholler> resistance is futile
  • [09:22:21] <av500> capacitance ftw!
  • [09:22:36] <av500> aholler: btw, prahal made some progress
  • [09:23:51] <aholler> oh, nice. I wait for the next update before I touch it again ;)
  • [09:25:26] <aholler> in case of capacitiors I've got yesterday a good explaining from someone from microchip about their reference capacitor in the pics ;)
  • [09:26:13] <aholler> at least those with support for mtouch
  • [09:27:37] <aholler> interesting stuff, never thought before about how capacitive displays are working ;)
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  • [09:29:04] <NotTooDumb3> hi..i have one question..i was changing boot args, now i am copying the files again to sd card, when i place the card on board, will that work like before or still bootargs have to be adjusted?
  • [09:29:14] <hem> hi woglinde, r there
  • [09:29:36] <hem> the touchscreen is working but it is upside down
  • [09:29:58] <hem> if touch in bottom,it accepts in top
  • [09:30:14] <hem> if touch in top it accepts in bottom
  • [09:30:27] <aholler> hehe, I wonder when someone will (re)add the appropriate option to usbtouchscreen.
  • [09:31:19] <hem> any help on this issue
  • [09:31:33] <aholler> I've just hacked the driver
  • [09:32:46] <aholler> (quick and dirty)
  • [09:33:18] <av500> just turn it uside down
  • [09:33:21] <av500> +p
  • [09:33:44] <aholler> there once existed a swapx and swapy, now only swapxy exists.
  • [09:34:19] <aholler> (somewhere in xorg)
  • [09:35:12] <NotTooDumb3> I need help regarding bootargs..http://pastebin.com/4Su6y35n this is my kernel hang..where can i learn more about bootargs of bb?
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  • [09:39:02] <Crofton|work> av500, I hear you went snowboarding?
  • [09:39:08] <av500> i did
  • [09:39:18] <Crofton|work> we are laving for Colorado today
  • [09:39:23] <av500> have fun
  • [09:39:26] <Crofton|work> thanks
  • [09:39:32] <Crofton|work> I will try and post some photos
  • [09:40:24] <av500> I have only one
  • [09:40:56] <av500> but you get the idea: http://www.flickr.com/photos/av500/5496694164/
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  • [09:46:12] <NotTooDumb3> av500, can you please give me the exact link where i can learn about bootargs of bb?
  • [09:46:40] <NotTooDumb3> my demo image hangs now, because of bootargs i think..
  • [09:47:19] <koen> Crofton|work: enjoy!
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  • [09:49:01] <Crofton|work> thanks
  • [09:49:34] <aholler> NotTooDumb3: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=tree;f=Documentation;hb=HEAD should be enough reading for you to be the next weeks busy while reading
  • [09:49:46] <av500> Crofton|work: get yocto to buy you a helmet
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  • [09:49:57] <NotTooDumb3> Crofton|work, have fun from my side also..dont tell thanks for me..i dont deserve thanks from this channel
  • [09:50:27] <Crofton|work> I am old fashioned still
  • [09:50:33] <av500> same here :)
  • [09:50:35] <Crofton|work> too many hobbies with helemts
  • [09:50:49] <av500> I tried with one, but then I missed the wind in my hair as speed indicator
  • [09:51:43] <arc_mat> Actually, I'm quite happily wearing a helmet. On my motorbike :)
  • [09:51:54] <arc_mat> but for skiing, no...
  • [09:52:25] <av500> it will be mandatory soon ... :(
  • [09:54:48] <aholler> helmets should be mandatory for pedestrians too. walking on the street is dangerous
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  • [09:55:35] <av500> aholler: keep in mind most accidents happen at home!
  • [09:55:46] <NotTooDumb3> aholler, yes i agree..i get more scared while walking than while riding
  • [09:56:07] <aholler> av500: yeah we all should wear protective stuff all the time
  • [09:57:04] <aholler> but don't tell that the vogons, they would make laws for that
  • [09:57:21] <av500> this is how I wash the dishes at home: http://www.bombsuit.co.uk/images/bombsuit.png
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  • [09:57:36] <av500> and this is using the dishwasher :)
  • [09:58:38] <arc_mat> well it makes you look like a vogon for sure
  • [09:59:22] <av500> but now, I will consider the TI cap
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  • [10:03:59] <koen> oh dear, only french people on the call
  • [10:04:03] <koen> and they are frenching
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  • [10:04:23] <av500> just shout "je regrette rien PAS" into the call
  • [10:04:36] <koen> heh
  • [10:08:01] <NotTooDumb3> av500, that's a big mail list..:-
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  • [10:18:22] <av500> raster: in .de?
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  • [10:27:10] <NotTooDumb3> can anyone tell me how to learn about the proper bootargs for bb?
  • [10:31:34] <Norritt42> NotTooDumb3 A tips start of reding the manual for oben embeded and bitbake. The openembeded is only like 140 pages.
  • [10:32:34] <NotTooDumb3> Norritt42, do i need openembedded to know about the boot args of bb too? i though i can go to openembedded once i can do the basic stuff with demo image
  • [10:35:09] <Norritt42> NotTooDumb3 Knowlage is good and 140 pages is like nothing takes maybe one day.
  • [10:37:29] <NotTooDumb3> ok..which document is that exactly..i am feeling too tired..
  • [10:37:58] <NotTooDumb3> when are you planning to start your soldering or started with it already?
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  • [10:50:05] <rsv> why when i do a bitbake gstreamer-ti ; good gstreamer plugins are not built
  • [10:50:09] <Norritt42> NotTooDumb3 Oh i started yesterday. I'm almost upp and runing, I did run in to an inline problem for the debugger that can't handel the optimazation. Just did found out that it's not a real problem. :) Try google manual openembeded pdf
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  • [10:50:41] <Norritt42> NotTooDumb3 and use the first hit http://docs.openembedded.org/usermanual/usermanual.pdf
  • [10:51:08] <NotTooDumb3> ok..
  • [10:51:16] <NotTooDumb3> rsv, do you work on gstreamer?
  • [10:51:34] <rsv> no i just use them
  • [10:52:01] <Norritt42> NotTooDumb3 But the solderign part is jsut a smal midle step :). Good luck with the reading. It's always good with knowlage. It's saves you time in the long run.
  • [10:52:47] <NotTooDumb3> Norritt42, correct..do you have good understanding about boot args of bb?
  • [10:53:16] <NotTooDumb3> i was trying something to make s-video work, now demo image is not working too..i am sure i need to know bootargs thoroughly for this
  • [10:53:22] * aholler calls for an op
  • [10:53:34] <NotTooDumb3> rsv you use gstreamer for what?
  • [10:54:42] <Norritt42> NotTooDumb3 Sorry, that's not part of my knowlage yet.
  • [10:55:09] <NotTooDumb3> np..
  • [10:55:11] <rsv> i have used it for streaming, playing back video, camera capture
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  • [10:55:59] <NotTooDumb3> i know playing back from a file and capturing..how do you do streaming?
  • [10:56:48] <rsv> you need to construct a pipeline for that
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  • [10:58:16] <rsv> NotTooDumb3: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Example_GStreamer_Pipelines
  • [10:59:10] <NotTooDumb3> oh you do them on TI board? i did them on general laptops..
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  • [10:59:49] <rsv> yes that was long time ago.
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  • [11:04:04] <NotTooDumb3> av500, will reading open embedded manual help me to learn about the boot args? i corrupted my boot args and my demo image hangs again..any suggestions for me?
  • [11:05:52] <koen> nand erase 260000 20000
  • [11:06:22] <NotTooDumb3> oh..sure..i will try now..thank you
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  • [11:15:29] <NotTooDumb3> koen, if possible can you see if anything is missing in my boot args? http://pastebin.com/aTFY1SVu
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  • [11:40:29] <plasmasolutions> Hi guys... I'm sure that this is beeing asked several times ago, but every information I found is not given for the XM: So is it possible to connect a touchscreen to my (shortly arriving) bbXM?
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  • [11:40:46] <plasmasolutions> ago = before
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  • [11:42:42] <anr78> Is it wise to let syslog log to /media/mmcblk0 instead of /var/log? I need a clever way to make sure my logs don't go away on boot, and logrotate doesn't want to rotate to another device.
  • [11:44:30] <plasmasolutions> anr78: I can't help you on your question...but maybe you've got a touchscreen connected to your bbxm? I'm searching someone who has done that before
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  • [11:50:14] <av500> plasmasolutions: sure
  • [11:50:34] <av500> its possible
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  • [11:56:56] <plasmasolutions> av500: Sorry, had to reconnect
  • [11:57:56] <plasmasolutions> av500: So it's possible...are there any docs about which device one should buy or what gives the smallest hassle?
  • [11:59:28] <av500> i would have to google to answer your question
  • [12:00:43] <plasmasolutions> Would you mind to do so?? I don't want you to do "my work"...but I googled so much and couldn't find any useful information about the BB xm and a touchscreen...so help is very appreciated!
  • [12:07:15] <NotTooDumb3> when i have only image with me and not kernel source code, is it possible whether a particular driver is loaded as module or is a part of kernel?
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  • [12:15:23] <NotTooDumb3> can anyone help me how can i delete a module from beagle's demo image and insmod my driver? any doc please??
  • [12:16:10] <arc_mat> plasmasolutions: the easiest solution is to use a usb touchscreen that registers as a "Human Interface Device"
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  • [12:17:10] <plasmasolutions> arc_mat: thank you, I will immediately start searching for such a device...am so excited about the arrivel of my new baby :)
  • [12:17:15] <plasmasolutions> arrival
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  • [12:22:00] <av500> http://who-t.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-to-dos-developer.html
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  • [12:53:16] <wmat> hehe, good post
  • [12:53:50] <plasmasolutions> arc_mat: Still there?
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  • [12:55:52] <plasmasolutions> When I buy a lilliput touchscreen there is only one connection available: an usb connection... is it possible that this device is registering itself as an hid and a display in the xserver?
  • [12:56:28] <plasmasolutions> It's this one http://cgi.ebay.de/7-USB-Touch-Screen-Monitor-Power-800x480-Resolution-/250770534805?pt=DE_Elektronik_Computer_Computer_Monitore_Flachbildschirme&hash=item3a6316b195
  • [12:56:56] <av500> but it has 2 usb connectors :)
  • [12:57:44] <plasmasolutions> av500: ;) Yes it has...I thought that one is for the power and one for the actual interface
  • [12:58:02] <buZz> plasmasolutions: usually they have usbhubs inside
  • [12:58:17] <av500> still the liliput website says it all: "One cable does it all!"
  • [12:58:45] <plasmasolutions> :) Marketing... I would say it also if I had to sell it :D
  • [12:59:29] <buZz> i thought the entire point of the screens was the part that they used one usb cable for both power and data
  • [13:00:10] <NotTooDumb3> can't i make startx to work on beagle demo image?
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  • [13:00:44] <buZz> probably you can
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  • [13:02:45] <plasmasolutions> av500: So you think that when I plug it into the beagle board, I am able to 1) see my desktops content and 2) get touch events under linux? in this case, my vga port would just not be used...that would be fine
  • [13:02:51] <NotTooDumb3> with fbset and changing different resolutions for x and y, is it that i need to see a window with it's size changing? i am going to auto to NTSC during kernel boot and again to auto once kernel is loaded..how can i make NTSC to withstand, without going to automode? any idea?
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  • [13:03:38] <av500> with the correct sw running, yes
  • [13:03:44] <av500> what vga port?
  • [13:04:27] <plasmasolutions> av500: Sorry...I meant the dvi port
  • [13:04:27] <NotTooDumb3> s-video is that what you are asking me?
  • [13:04:51] <av500> yes, that would be unused then
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  • [13:05:01] <av500> unless you go for a dual screen setup :)
  • [13:05:13] <plasmasolutions> av500: Ok, so this looks as it would be the perfect solution for me-....
  • [13:05:36] <plasmasolutions> av500: I thank you very much! Will go and buy one as soon as the board arrives
  • [13:05:42] <av500> linux has the needed displaylink drivers for the lcd and I guess koen made sure they are in angstrom
  • [13:05:54] <av500> about the touhc part, I have no idea
  • [13:06:04] <av500> send me one and I will find out for you
  • [13:06:10] <plasmasolutions> av500: :)
  • [13:06:24] <plasmasolutions> av500: First me than you :D
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  • [13:06:41] <av500> egoiste!
  • [13:07:16] <plasmasolutions> av500: ;)
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  • [13:10:20] <koen> hmmm
  • [13:10:27] <koen> uboot doesn't load boot.scr anymore
  • [13:10:39] <koen> jkridner: plz teach me exact steps to load boot.scr
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  • [13:11:06] <jkridner> koen: is that a joke? :)
  • [13:11:12] * av500 sends koen teh codez
  • [13:11:22] <koen> jkridner: sort off
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  • [13:11:54] <av500> koen: it is boot.ocr now
  • [13:12:02] <koen> I figured it out in 5 seconds, then I reread the mail thread
  • [13:13:15] <jkridner> are you asserting that switching to uEnv.txt and dropping boot.scr is wrong?
  • [13:13:43] * av500 is asserting that all was needed was to remove that damn binary header from boot.scr
  • [13:13:56] <av500> but that is like 3y to late now...
  • [13:14:04] <jkridner> you mean instead of going to var=value?
  • [13:14:31] <jkridner> I wish that the environment text files were just commands, but alas they aren't.
  • [13:14:48] <jkridner> such is the nature of being subject to someone else's project.
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  • [13:19:49] <koen> jkridner: it's a change on how things are handled
  • [13:20:06] <koen> jkridner: I'm smart enough to google and I know how our uboot env is structured
  • [13:20:14] <koen> so for me it's only a small annoyance
  • [13:20:36] <BlInK311> hey guys, anyone interested in a leopardboard 365 and the dvi board? I have one laying around
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  • [13:20:45] <jkridner> when it is clearly better, I don't mind taking the slams of uncompatibility.
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  • [13:21:01] <av500> BlInK311: send it to me
  • [13:21:26] <BlInK311> $100
  • [13:21:35] <av500> $10
  • [13:21:48] <BlInK311> sorry. ur missing a zero
  • [13:21:54] <av500> no, Im haggling :)
  • [13:22:08] * av500 has kids to feed
  • [13:22:23] <BlInK311> i just bought it 2 months ago for 200. 100 is as low as ill go
  • [13:22:29] <av500> :)
  • [13:23:28] <BlInK311> still interested?
  • [13:23:30] * av500 needs to save his money for the eagleboard
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  • [13:24:00] <jkridner> av500: you'll be paid to take an eagleboard.
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  • [13:24:14] <av500> cool
  • [13:24:51] <koen> jkridner: I would argue that uEnv.txt as a name is bogus
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  • [13:25:36] <tusas> hi all, anyone worked microcontroller + beagleboard with uart??
  • [13:25:39] <BlInK311> when does the eagleboard release?
  • [13:26:22] <jkridner> koen: yeah, I don't like the name either, but I thought any counter-proposal I'd make would also have been bogus. aholler?
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  • [13:32:10] <tusas> hi all, anyone worked microcontroller + beagleboard with uart??
  • [13:32:26] <buZz> tusas: check for 'beagle trainerboard' users
  • [13:32:29] <jkridner> tusas: a tiny bit on the Trainer.
  • [13:32:51] <plasmasolutions> bye guys, and thanks for your help
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  • [13:33:45] <av500> jkridner: aholler took an irc sabatical today
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  • [13:42:27] <koen> chase: http://who-t.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-to-dos-developer.html
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  • [14:04:36] <djlewis> av500: i believe they are trying to train you to do their work for them ;)
  • [14:04:44] <djlewis> gm
  • [14:05:00] <kaio> hi I have installed demo ubuntu to bbxm
  • [14:05:11] <kaio> how can I setup wired network?
  • [14:05:18] <av500> djlewis: I found the "irc" section fitting :)
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  • [14:07:06] * djlewis is realizing that studying writing a driver is not progress.
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  • [14:07:24] <djlewis> will have to actually place code on page and try to compile :)
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  • [14:07:51] <djlewis> seems daunting
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  • [14:08:42] <av500> djlewis: driver for what?
  • [14:09:01] <djlewis> what would be simple to you guys:)
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  • [14:09:30] <djlewis> an event driven i2c
  • [14:10:00] * pcacjr (~pcacjr@unaffiliated/pcacjr) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  • [14:10:37] <djlewis> I have looked at lots of samples from the simple to complex and my brain is fighting it like it does algebra
  • [14:11:06] <djlewis> So I will just jump in this weekend and see what happens
  • [14:12:15] <djlewis> just a simple thing to send the 6bytes of data from i2c client on change of data from client
  • [14:12:37] <djlewis> or am I misreading driver fundamentals?
  • [14:12:58] <djlewis> like a mouse movement sends interrupts and app graps coordinates.
  • [14:13:06] <djlewis> but my device dfoes not send interrupts
  • [14:13:07] * wmat notes How to DOS a developer is #1 on HN this morning
  • [14:13:12] <av500> how does i2c send an IRQ?
  • [14:13:25] <av500> wmat: that's where I got it from :)
  • [14:13:27] <djlewis> some i2c devices have that extra signal
  • [14:13:33] <av500> right
  • [14:13:36] <av500> like TS drivers
  • [14:13:36] <djlewis> not mine
  • [14:13:52] <wmat> av500: sadly, the people who need to read and learn from that post probably don't even know what HN is
  • [14:14:16] <av500> wmat: and I thought I was the only one who knew it :)
  • [14:15:36] <wmat> heh
  • [14:16:24] <arc_mat> What's HN?
  • [14:16:44] <av500> arc_mat: something you dont know
  • [14:16:56] <arc_mat> ok
  • [14:17:13] <av500> but sergey and larry do
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  • [14:17:29] <wmat> arc_mat: news.ycombinator.com
  • [14:18:50] <djlewis> i'm somewhere in the middle of #12
  • [14:19:24] <djlewis> the second part
  • [14:20:24] <djlewis> actually math was easy for me until I quit paying attention and girls got my attention
  • [14:26:43] <djlewis> perhaps my driver concept is wrong. There seems no need for a device to send data through the kernel unless it is asked for.
  • [14:27:19] <djlewis> so why event driven in this case.
  • [14:28:47] <djlewis> but then if I am using my i2c device to fly a plane do I ask for the new data or event send it to an app for effenciency.
  • [14:28:55] <djlewis> #drivers i suppose :)
  • [14:29:52] * djlewis returns to his coffee pot :)
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  • [14:32:46] <arc_mat> i2c is not really the interface you want to run interrupt driven
  • [14:32:53] <arc_mat> maybe your choice of hardware is wrong ;)
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  • [14:33:56] <djlewis> arc_mat: hardware is correct. My concepts are confused. I am not thinking I need interrupt driven, just bringing it up.
  • [14:34:46] <djlewis> Part of my effort to sort out the best method of acquiring the data.
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  • [14:36:25] <arc_mat> ok
  • [14:36:45] <djlewis> arc_mat: thank you for the input though
  • [14:37:35] <arc_mat> djlewis: what are you trying to do?
  • [14:37:40] * arc_mat is curious now
  • [14:37:42] <djlewis> any thoughts (not mean ones) are welcome :)
  • [14:38:29] <djlewis> hmm... I am not a kernel level programmer. I did the beagleboard + trainerboard + Nintendo chuk project.
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  • [14:38:56] <kaio> eth0 doesnt show up on my demo image of ubuntu
  • [14:38:59] <djlewis> The date comes from it reliably and fast. But I was asked for a event driven driver for it.
  • [14:39:05] <djlewis> The data
  • [14:40:01] <djlewis> So I have been trying to learn how to best do this.
  • [14:40:10] <av500> djlewis: but is the irq connected?
  • [14:40:16] <djlewis> no irq
  • [14:40:53] <djlewis> just a simple "slave device" that answers when asked
  • [14:41:11] <av500> so how do you want to make that event driven?
  • [14:41:34] <djlewis> So I know I could place a data req in a driver for a continous stream of new data but is that the correct way.
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  • [14:42:07] <djlewis> Is there any improvement to be had over the existing i2c tools that are part of linux now?
  • [14:42:39] <av500> you could have a kernel driver that polls it periodicallly
  • [14:42:45] <djlewis> yes
  • [14:42:52] <av500> and only emit to userspace if something changed
  • [14:43:02] <djlewis> yes i was thinking of that
  • [14:43:05] <av500> so userspace could poll/select on the /dev/nunchuck
  • [14:43:15] <av500> and as long as nothing happens it wont have to read
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  • [14:44:22] <djlewis> this sounds reasonable
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  • [14:45:13] * djlewis reads http://daniel.haxx.se/docs/poll-vs-select.html
  • [14:45:46] <av500> hehe, Daniel :)
  • [14:46:00] <djlewis> you know him?
  • [14:46:04] <av500> yup
  • [14:46:17] <djlewis> early on google
  • [14:46:18] <av500> he is part of rockbox.org
  • [14:46:33] <av500> that only came to life because ppl hated the mp3 player sw i wrote
  • [14:46:40] <djlewis> hehee
  • [14:46:59] * av500 still refuses to implement shuffle/all
  • [14:47:15] * djlewis prefers song selection
  • [14:48:05] <djlewis> most albums i ever purchased, I only liked a couple of tunes on.
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  • [14:48:53] * av500 sends djlewis to the "best of" selection
  • [14:49:39] <djlewis> funny, my idea of Bset Of is not usually the producers idea :(
  • [14:49:45] <djlewis> Best Of
  • [14:50:03] <djlewis> Best Hits, not!
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  • [15:05:03] * wmat definitely loves full albums
  • [15:05:14] <wmat> but perhaps I'm just old
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  • [15:07:29] <jkridner> I must be equally old.
  • [15:07:45] * jkridner starts the computer jukebox.
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  • [15:15:07] <koen> http://armdevices.net/2011/03/03/beagleboard-xm-1ghz-arm-cortex-a8-6-ubuntu-desktops-synchronized/
  • [15:15:07] <koen> THAT'S NOT UBUNTU!
  • [15:15:08] <av500> koen: you dont need a reason to stab charbax
  • [15:15:08] <av500> just do it
  • [15:15:10] <koen> Roger even mentions that it's angstrom in the video
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  • [15:43:12] <NotTooDumb3> hi all....channel is quite...!
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  • [15:47:53] <koen> jkridner: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3559
  • [15:48:00] <koen> that has the updated B for xm
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  • [15:48:28] <jkridner> cool! now all I need is a makerbot.
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  • [15:48:39] <jkridner> I thought they were supposed to drop below $600, no?
  • [15:48:50] <buZz> yeah within 10 years
  • [15:48:52] <buZz> 'maybe'
  • [15:49:51] <buZz> 'unless china beats us to it, lol!'
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  • [15:50:11] <jkridner> koen: are you going to ever create a matching cover?
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  • [15:53:30] <NotTooDumb3> buZz, True..!
  • [15:54:31] <NotTooDumb3> hi all..in the demo image of beagle board, i have omaplfb listed in lsmod, so will i be able to rmmod omapfb and check with other fb?
  • [15:56:53] <smplman_> NotTooDumb3: did you remove omapfb from the kernel?
  • [15:57:33] <smplman_> i need a good touchscreen module now for my system
  • [15:57:38] <NotTooDumb3> not exactly..i have to..i am just planning now..will rmmod omaplfb work?
  • [15:58:24] <smplman_> NotTooDumb3: i tried to blacklist it last night in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and the module kept loading. The only solution was to remove it from the kernel.
  • [15:58:38] <NotTooDumb3> smplman, same discussion about touchscreen was going some time ago like 4 or 5 hours ago..ask someone to paste the previous messages for you if possible
  • [15:58:55] <smplman_> NotTooDumb3: do you know who was involved?
  • [15:59:08] <NotTooDumb3> smplman, i am just using demo image..removing from the kernel i can not do now right?
  • [15:59:18] <NotTooDumb3> did you get your uImage through source?
  • [15:59:34] <smplman_> yea i built it last night, took about an hour and a half
  • [15:59:41] <smplman_> ill see if i can find the source i used
  • [16:00:05] <NotTooDumb3> can you please tell me the procedure too and which version did you build? are you working on omapfb by any chance??
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  • [16:01:20] <smplman_> NotTooDumb3: yea it was my first kernel cross compile, but i will see what i can help you with. No, im not working on omapfb i couldn't code drivers if i tried.
  • [16:01:53] <smplman_> NotTooDumb3: you are running ubuntu correct?
  • [16:02:13] <NotTooDumb3> i work on fedora
  • [16:02:24] <NotTooDumb3> what do you work on?
  • [16:02:38] <smplman_> NotTooDumb3: no on your beagle
  • [16:02:42] <NotTooDumb3> which version did you compile?
  • [16:03:18] <NotTooDumb3> oh..on my bb, i do not use any os, that's just a kernel source code..did you compile ubuntu?
  • [16:03:23] <koen> jkridner: I will
  • [16:03:39] <koen> jkridner: need to figure out if openscad has a mirror() operation :)
  • [16:04:02] <smplman_> NotTooDumb3: yes i used ubuntu on my desktop to compile the kernel for my bb running ubuntu
  • [16:04:17] <smplman_> NotTooDumb3: https://code.launchpad.net/~beagleboard-kernel/+junk/2.6-stable
  • [16:05:06] * jkridner realizes we are running out of time on GSoC. :(
  • [16:05:17] <jkridner> ideas page needs to be totally cleaned up with real ideas we want.
  • [16:05:19] <NotTooDumb3> koen, can you please help me with displaying any video on bb? does mplayer command use omapfb?
  • [16:05:34] <jkridner> March 11 is when they start accepting mentoring org applications.
  • [16:06:42] <av500> jkridner: right
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  • [16:06:50] <av500> what do we need until the 11th?
  • [16:07:32] <jkridner> updates to the ideas page and any comments on the application. I need to look at the new form to see if we need to answer different questions.
  • [16:07:40] <smplman_> NotTooDumb3: you are going to need X running to get decent video
  • [16:08:00] <NotTooDumb3> yes i tried startx command for testing, but it did not work for me
  • [16:08:32] <smplman_> NotTooDumb3: what does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
  • [16:08:40] <NotTooDumb3> on board?
  • [16:08:42] <smplman_> yes
  • [16:09:02] <NotTooDumb3> oh..actually i am not in office now..i cannot check it now..
  • [16:09:08] <NotTooDumb3> it's night for us now
  • [16:09:49] <smplman_> NotTooDumb3: you need to see why X is failing to start. Could be modules, screens not configures, or something else. The log will tell you
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  • [16:10:23] <NotTooDumb3> i am making a note of it..monday morning, i will check that as first point..
  • [16:11:01] <NotTooDumb3> when i tested last time i remember it was giving an error like /../.../x not found or something like that
  • [16:11:48] <smplman_> do you have X installed?
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  • [16:13:10] <NotTooDumb3> i dont think so
  • [16:13:25] <smplman_> thats why X is not starting
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  • [16:13:31] <NotTooDumb3> smplman, i have not installed..doesn't that come as part of kernel?
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  • [16:13:43] * ericb2 did a Linux course using the BeagleBoard ^^
  • [16:14:08] <ericb2> students were surprised :)
  • [16:14:10] <jkridner> ericb2: cool. who taught it?
  • [16:14:14] <smplman_> NotTooDumb3: no, kernel is drivers. Xorg is a windowing system that uses those drivers
  • [16:14:17] <_av500_> ericb2 i guess
  • [16:14:38] <ericb2> jkridner I'm the prof ;-)
  • [16:15:28] <smplman_> NotTooDumb3: what base system did you setup on your beagle? Ubuntu?
  • [16:15:55] <NotTooDumb3> nothing like ubuntu or fedora..i just had followed beagle demo image till now...
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  • [16:16:08] <smplman_> NotTooDumb3: so angstrom?
  • [16:16:10] <jkridner> ericb2: cool. are you sharing any of the materials?
  • [16:16:20] <NotTooDumb3> smplman, did you connect bb to any display?
  • [16:16:21] <_av500_> jkridner: they are in french :)
  • [16:16:23] <jkridner> ericb2: do you know Cathy Wicks?
  • [16:16:28] <NotTooDumb3> smplman, yes angstrom demo as of now
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  • [16:16:30] <ericb2> jkridner well, this is Linux introduction
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  • [16:16:35] <smplman_> NotTooDumb3: yes the HDMI and now i have usb console also
  • [16:16:39] <jkridner> that's cool.
  • [16:16:44] <ericb2> jkridner and everything is online in french
  • [16:16:50] <jkridner> nothing wrong with French.
  • [16:17:05] <_av500_> mais bein sur!
  • [16:17:07] <ericb2> jkridner the most impressive was the "hard disk" == the micro sd card :)
  • [16:17:08] <_av500_> bien even
  • [16:17:27] <_av500_> ericb2: where are you located again, I forgot
  • [16:17:33] <jkridner> ericb2: Do you know Robert Owen?
  • [16:17:36] <ericb2> _av500_: UTBM
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  • [16:19:51] <ericb2> jkridner I'm not sure, but I think I kow the name
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  • [16:20:20] <jkridner> k, if you drop me an e-mail or e-mail address I can give you an introduction....
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  • [16:20:33] <jkridner> for folks teaching courses using the BeagleBoard, I might be able to talk him into helping with hardware, etc.
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  • [16:37:32] <spow_> Hey, I managed to establish an ad-hoc connection btwn a PC connected to the internet and my BB, is there a apt-get equivalent to easily install stuff ? (manually making vlc fails)
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  • [16:53:15] <NotTooDumb3> smplman, so did you load ubuntu? did you not try building angstrom from source rather than demo image?
  • [16:53:49] <spow_> koen : seems to work, thanks
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  • [16:53:53] <smplman> NotTooDumb3: i prefer ubuntu over angstrom. I tried the angstom demo images and they loaded fine
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  • [16:55:05] <NotTooDumb3> did you ever try directly like make etc., from source?
  • [16:55:52] <smplman> NotTooDumb3: angstrom no. Ubuntu i started with the compiled images, then rebuilt the kernel from source to get the usb monitor going
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  • [16:56:44] <NotTooDumb3> ok..
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  • [16:59:15] <prpplague> Crofton|work: ping
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  • [16:59:25] <NotTooDumb3> smplman, i am confused how to go about compiling from source now and before that first i must see NTSC coming up..
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  • [17:00:22] <NotTooDumb3> smplman, do you know about fbset? can you see window with fbset?
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  • [17:01:28] <smplman> NotTooDumb3: fbset is used to change the frame buffer device. Are you using s-video?
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  • [17:02:20] <NotTooDumb3> yes iam using s-video
  • [17:02:43] <NotTooDumb3> as my main work is to make frame buffer work on tv rather than on digital displays..
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  • [17:05:43] <NotTooDumb3> my aim for now is with fbset -xres (a value) and -yres (any other value) i must see windows..which i can not see now as i see tv in auto mode and not in NTSC mode and i am guessing that it must be to do with bootargs..i am not sure though..
  • [17:06:56] <JDuke128> d
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  • [17:09:19] <xxiao> sakoman_: ping
  • [17:09:27] <sakoman_> xxiao: pong
  • [17:10:08] <xxiao> i'm trying Arnd's flashbench with various SD cards these days, and had some confusion on SD's mlo alignment
  • [17:10:26] <xxiao> as you know, i have to use sfdisk -D to boot
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  • [17:11:01] <xxiao> i need make sure SD card is partitioned in a way that is 4MB aligned
  • [17:11:56] <xxiao> first question to you: why does it say 63 sectors/track instead of 64?
  • [17:12:29] <xxiao> is it 0-63 ?
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  • [17:14:30] <xxiao> second: is it by default that MLO is put to the second track if 'sfdisk -D' is used?
  • [17:14:46] <xxiao> thanks
  • [17:15:20] * xxiao does not understand why I need 'sfdisk -D' to boot up TI's mlo/uboot/kernel
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  • [17:16:04] <NotTooDumb3> xxiao, is that for demo image or did you build from source?
  • [17:16:40] <xxiao> NotTooDumb3: either way, just use the mk-mmc script from TI, and the alignment was bad for performance
  • [17:16:56] <xxiao> without the -D option, it won't read boot.scr
  • [17:17:23] <xxiao> with -D, the performance for SD R/W is not good
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  • [17:19:17] <NotTooDumb3> xxiao, how to build Angstrom image from kernel source?
  • [17:19:45] <xxiao> anyway i will just waste the first 4MB before the first partition...
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  • [17:20:07] <xxiao> NotTooDumb3: i used the pre-built angstrom image
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  • [17:20:33] <NotTooDumb3> xxiao, dint you build an angstrom image from source?
  • [17:20:48] <xxiao> NotTooDumb3: no, only did that with android
  • [17:21:08] <xxiao> but the mkmmc is similar, to put MLO/uboot/kernel/rootfs to SD card
  • [17:21:47] <NotTooDumb3> oh..ok i was not using mkmmc to copy those files, i was just using cp..why do you need mkmmc btw?
  • [17:22:14] <xxiao> it's a script, to load everything together
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  • [17:22:27] <xxiao> to make sure MLO is the first on vfat partition,etc
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  • [17:23:24] <NotTooDumb3> when we copy them in that order, they will be in that order right?
  • [17:23:43] <xxiao> for vfat i think yes
  • [17:23:45] <spow_> koen : I went to a computer closer to my box so my connection is stable now, but it doesn't know the vlc package, is it about repositories ? (the opkg update downloaded stuff fine from sakoman.com)
  • [17:26:52] <slchen> if we copy MLO the first file into mmc, don't we need to calculate the cylinder according to the size of mmc card?
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  • [17:27:26] <NotTooDumb3> slchen, i think no need..atleast i did not do and board has come up fine..are you facing any problem?
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  • [17:28:20] <xxiao> slchen: sfdisk -D will skip the first track before you start your first partition, mlo needs to be the first in that partition
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  • [17:30:24] <slchen> NotTooDumb3: No, I just curious about it. I always use mkcard in the beagle validate script.
  • [17:30:52] <NotTooDumb3> oh that mkcard.txt ? that's to format i think right?
  • [17:30:54] <koen> spow_: vlc is in: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=vlc
  • [17:31:24] <spow_> so if it doesn't find it it means I have to change default repository ?
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  • [17:32:51] <NotTooDumb3> slchen, can i know which kernel source or os you are using and did you build from source? are you working on s-video?
  • [17:32:53] <slchen> Although I've seen some page about "make sure MLO is the first file copied into mmc", I don't really study about the detail of it.
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  • [17:34:49] <slchen> NotTooDumb3: I've tried the image shipped with beagle
  • [17:35:06] <slchen> And I don't use s-video.
  • [17:35:08] <NotTooDumb3> you mean demo image?
  • [17:35:20] <slchen> NotTooDumb3: yes
  • [17:35:26] <NotTooDumb3> oh..ok.
  • [17:35:40] <NotTooDumb3> what for are you using bb?
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  • [17:37:10] <slchen> Just for fun :D
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  • [17:37:36] <NotTooDumb3> koen, can you pleaes direct me towards any docs, where i can see the window actually changing with fbset variables?
  • [17:37:54] <slchen> I am new to ARM platform
  • [17:39:14] <NotTooDumb3> ok..
  • [17:39:55] <slchen> NotTooDumb3: are u trying something about display output?
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  • [17:42:01] <koen> NotTooDumb3: google.com?
  • [17:42:07] <koen> fbset is a generic app
  • [17:42:15] <koen> jkridner|work: printing a cover now, will post pics later
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  • [17:48:07] <NotTooDumb3> koen, i tried from google few attempts, i gave mode as NTSC through boot args, i saw a vi window kind of window coming and angstrom symbol with a scroll showing the boot progress then it was hanging in the process
  • [17:49:14] <NotTooDumb3> koen, when i was working on other boards, i used to test window size varying or not with fbset changing params, here i can not see anything as tv is in auto mode and not in NTSC mode
  • [17:49:32] <NotTooDumb3> slchen, yes i need to make fb working on tv
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  • [18:03:20] <spow> koen : Sorry but I really don't find where the repositories are to be added
  • [18:03:44] <spow> I created a file named angtsrom_repo.conf in /etc/conf
  • [18:04:09] <spow> with inside : src angstrom_repo http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/
  • [18:04:29] <spow> but when I do opkg update it tries to add /Packages at the end of it so it fails
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  • [18:06:58] <spow> in folder /etc/opkg not /etc/conf
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  • [18:15:44] <spow> anyone knows how I should add the repository ?
  • [18:17:46] <jacekowski> that's correct
  • [18:17:53] <jacekowski> adding Packages
  • [18:18:00] <jacekowski> because that's file where package list should be
  • [18:18:17] <jacekowski> and that address you have is a browser not repository itself
  • [18:19:00] <W1N9Zr0> df
  • [18:19:03] <W1N9Zr0> woops
  • [18:19:27] <spow> and from this browser how do I obtain the actual repository ?
  • [18:19:44] <jacekowski> spow: you can't
  • [18:19:50] <jacekowski> spow: repository address is different
  • [18:19:57] <jacekowski> spow: look trough that site
  • [18:20:03] <jacekowski> there should be address somewhere
  • [18:20:15] <spow> ok I will do that
  • [18:20:19] <spow> thanks
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  • [18:22:25] <jacekowski> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv7/base/
  • [18:22:28] <jacekowski> for example that
  • [18:22:36] <jacekowski> but it's probably not correct for you
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  • [18:44:23] <koen> spow: why not use the included repositories?
  • [18:45:08] <spow> they do not have vlc
  • [18:45:59] <spow> but I might resort to mplayer if I don't find the goddarn multimedia in the feeds
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  • [18:47:19] <ds2> hey koen, for your cases, are they ABS or HDPE?
  • [18:48:45] <koen> ds2: mostly PLA, earlier ones were ABS
  • [18:49:13] <koen> http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/5490234860/ <- see the caption
  • [18:49:29] <koen> PLA smells like maple syrup during extrusion
  • [18:49:33] <koen> ABS like burnt lego
  • [18:49:40] <ds2> was looking at your thingsverse page
  • [18:49:50] <ds2> noticed a lack of warping
  • [18:49:55] <koen> don't try to smell HDPE, it's too toxic
  • [18:49:56] <spow> fiooooooooou found it ! for irc logs in the hope it helps someone I used : http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv7a/base/ (but it's an old version of vlc, 0.9.8 whereas most recent is 1.1.7 IIRC)
  • [18:50:23] <koen> spow: why not use the included repos? Mixing and matching is a really bad idea
  • [18:50:26] <_av500_> so you wont be able to play VP8 HD
  • [18:50:45] <spow> koen : included repos are from sakoman and they do not include vlc
  • [18:51:16] <ds2> hmmm thought HDPE was less harmful then ABS fumes
  • [18:51:19] <buZz> VP8 HD is not supported by mplayer?
  • [18:51:30] <spow> koen : I'd like to stream over UDP and it's something i've done with VLC in the past (in GUI though ^^)
  • [18:51:39] <koen> spow: so use a standard angstrom image, those have the correct feeds
  • [18:52:07] <spow> koen : standard angstrom image doesn't have 'make' installed -_-
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  • [18:52:17] <koen> spow: it does
  • [18:52:32] <koen> spow: you can always generate a complete custom image with narcissus
  • [18:52:38] <ds2> opkg install make....ipk
  • [18:52:49] <spow> and the RT73 firmware is already included in sakoman's build
  • [18:53:01] <koen> spow: it is in the angstrom demo image as well
  • [18:53:12] <koen> and again, you can always generate a complete custom image with narcissus
  • [18:53:37] <koen> and since you're using opkg to install vlc, you can just as easily use it to install make
  • [18:54:06] <spow> will try this this WE since anyways I need to recompile the kernel to get access to the UART2 (pain foreseen)
  • [18:54:24] <koen> uart is on the expansion header?
  • [18:54:39] <koen> that's enabled by default in angstrom
  • [18:54:41] <spow> you're right but I only got my wifi to work yesterday
  • [18:54:55] <spow> network managers messed with iwconfig
  • [18:55:01] <spow> UART2
  • [18:55:09] <spow> miss RX
  • [18:55:25] <spow> at least this is swhat I understood
  • [18:55:33] <spow> must change the mux
  • [18:55:53] <spow> b/c TX, CLR and others are on 1 and RX is on 2
  • [18:56:22] <spow> though I'd give a leg to not have to recompile a kernel ^^
  • [18:56:55] <spow> going to eat, back in ~
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  • [18:57:02] <spow> ~30 mins
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  • [18:59:28] <jkridner|work> koen: /builder/ doesn't have the SD card creation stuff. :(
  • [19:02:12] <djlewis_> spow: my uart2 is enabled in sakoman's
  • [19:02:26] <koen> jkridner|work: cause we don't have root on that machine
  • [19:02:41] <djlewis_> used it to talk with the avr on my TinCan Trainer board
  • [19:02:50] <jkridner|work> I thought we eliminated the need for root and only ran fakeroot now.
  • [19:03:34] <koen> jkridner|work: usermod -G -a disk www-data
  • [19:03:40] <koen> and vi /etc/fstab
  • [19:03:43] <koen> that needs root
  • [19:04:17] <jkridner|work> k. any chance to get a one-time execution? who has that box?
  • [19:04:33] <jkridner|work> does /etc/loop1 need to be touched?
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  • [19:09:05] <koen> jkridner|work: loop1 and loop2
  • [19:09:16] <koen> jkridner|work: when load goes down on the other box the redirect will stop
  • [19:09:22] <koen> jkridner|work, ds2: http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/5497704670/
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  • [19:09:38] <koen> jkridner|work: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/narcissus/ has working sd images as well
  • [19:09:48] <jkridner|work> calculu5: how did it go at SCALE?
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  • [19:11:02] <jkridner|work> no spikes to help hold it in place? have you tried one yet?
  • [19:11:13] <onur_> hello, could someone help me about cross compiling by openEmbedded?
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  • [19:12:13] <onur_> i need to compile softwares for beagle
  • [19:12:31] <buZz> i just compile stuff on the board
  • [19:12:36] <buZz> no need for crosscompiling
  • [19:13:34] <koen> ds2: the PLA on glass gets rid of warping for the bottom layer(s)
  • [19:13:42] <onur_> i am really new to this subject and i need to install some programs but when i try to build them beagle wont do it
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  • [19:14:19] <onur_> for example when i i want to build motion
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  • [19:15:08] <koen> onur_: opkg install motion?
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  • [19:15:24] <onur_> it says smt like configuring something.h in millions of seconds
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  • [19:15:35] <onur_> yes
  • [19:15:50] <onur_> for capturing images from webcam
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  • [19:16:17] <ds2>
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  • [19:17:41] <onur_> anyone to help?
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  • [19:18:40] <onur_> could someone help me about cross compiling by openEmbedded?
  • [19:19:39] <djlewis_> onur_: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ down the page is setup
  • [19:20:49] <onur_> i installed OE
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  • [19:21:01] <onur_> and i have angstrom running on beagle
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  • [19:21:46] <onur_> i am reading
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  • [19:25:30] <djlewis_> onur_: perhaps you are not asking the question well?
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  • [19:26:24] <spow> djlewis_ : are you sure about UART2 ? how can I verify that ? It would really make my day (tons of stuff to do and so little time)
  • [19:26:43] <djlewis_> make a loopback tx to rx
  • [19:27:16] <djlewis_> ask sakoman_
  • [19:28:09] <djlewis_> i would do loopback jumper with power off and be very careful you pick correct pin
  • [19:28:15] <onur_> you're right i now try again
  • [19:28:27] * djlewis_ displays "disclaimer"
  • [19:28:36] <spow> sakoman_ : Hi, I'm using your R12 build and before getting in kernel recompiling I'd like to know if you did change the mux so that RX of UART2 on the expansion header is available ?
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  • [19:29:31] <spow> djlewis_ thanks for the tip, it might really give me the boost I need to finish other projects in time
  • [19:29:47] <djlewis_> I hope all goes well for you spow:
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  • [19:37:19] <onur_> i am on my senior project and i need to capture images from webcam and process them with openCV. then i found Motion i tested it on my computer. then i wanted to install it on beagle ( both on ubuntu lightweight and angstrom). but it says something like ( beagle is not in my house so i cant remember exactly) "it is configuring foo.h it takes 3*10^9 seconds. so i come up with the cross compiling. then i managed to install OE on my computer. tried to bitbake t
  • [19:37:19] <onur_> he motion but i am getting errors. i want to know that am i on the right way to cross compiling the softwares or i dont even need to cross compile the softwares?
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  • [19:38:31] <djlewis_> onur_: when you setup your beagle did you run "opkg update"
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  • [19:38:44] <djlewis_> You need to before trying to install a program.
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  • [19:40:19] <onur_> i didnt make the setup it was ready when i take the beagle
  • [19:40:39] <onur_> from school
  • [19:40:40] <djlewis_> onur_: if your beagle is on a network to internet then
  • [19:40:47] <koen> onur_: why not opkg install motion?
  • [19:40:54] <djlewis_> do opkg update then opkg install motion
  • [19:41:22] <onur_> it doesnt have access to internet on school
  • [19:41:51] <koen> so how did you get the sources on there?
  • [19:42:05] <djlewis_> onur_: do you have internet access to beagle now?
  • [19:42:26] <onur_> i dont have beagle with me at home
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  • [19:43:08] <djlewis_> onur_: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=motion shows motion and its dependencies.
  • [19:43:19] <onur_> but you say connect the beagle to internet and do the updates and install softwares on beagle not cross compile
  • [19:43:33] <djlewis_> onur_: to install motion. Yes
  • [19:44:25] <djlewis_> onur_: what OS are you using now with your PC?
  • [19:45:09] <onur_> about other programs? i want to know how to cross compile too. i can compile my own c++ programs but i dont know how to do others
  • [19:45:15] <onur_> ubuntu i use
  • [19:45:40] <djlewis_> onur_: opkg is to beagle what apt-get is to ubuntu
  • [19:46:14] <onur_> i get it
  • [19:46:32] <jkridner|work> djlewis_: er, opkg is to Angstrom what apt-get is to Ubuntu.
  • [19:46:52] <djlewis_> even better, thank you jkridner|work
  • [19:46:52] <jkridner|work> if you want to run Ubuntu on your BeagleBoard, just do that.
  • [19:47:09] <djlewis_> jkridner|work: that is not what he is asking
  • [19:47:35] <onur_> thank you
  • [19:47:42] <onur_> i have one more question
  • [19:48:36] <onur_> since yesterday angstrom doesn't display on lcd
  • [19:48:53] <onur_> it say i must change the resolution
  • [19:49:04] <onur_> i found how to do that
  • [19:49:18] <onur_> i need to configure the boot
  • [19:50:00] <onur_> setenv bootargs console=ttyS2,115200n8 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootwait omap-dss.def_disp=lcd omapfb.video_mode=640x480MR-16@60
  • [19:50:09] <onur_> i used this code
  • [19:50:18] <onur_> but it doesn't help
  • [19:50:30] <djlewis_> onur_: what is your LCD?
  • [19:51:01] <onur_> oh great
  • [19:51:13] <onur_> it's school's
  • [19:51:29] <onur_> and i can't acces irc in school
  • [19:51:44] <onur_> thats why i am asking those questions now
  • [19:52:08] <onur_> i dont know what its model
  • [19:54:14] <spow_> onur_ : from your school you *might* be able to access it from a webapplet
  • [19:54:31] <djlewis_> where i was trying to go next :)
  • [19:54:32] <spow_> 2nd link on google for 'freenode online'
  • [19:55:27] <spow_> because hell yeah, they can't block port 80 ^
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  • [19:56:31] <onur_> ok thank you i will do that
  • [19:57:17] <djlewis_> or irc us at the bottom of this page: http://beagleboard.org/discuss
  • [19:58:01] <onur_> ok thanks
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  • [19:59:49] <onur_> but bitbake is the right way to cross compile softwares ?
  • [20:00:17] <djlewis_> onur_: if you have the source and recipe, yes
  • [20:00:17] <onur_> can i compile google chrome for example
  • [20:00:45] <onur_> ok i get it
  • [20:01:50] <djlewis_> onur_: there are other cross compile options available.
  • [20:02:52] <onur_> when i search everywhere is full of OE
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  • [20:04:42] <djlewis_> onur_: OE is good for the larger picture, a toolchain is good for single packages.
  • [20:05:00] <djlewis_> onur_: but I am not the OE authority. Far from it.
  • [20:05:34] <djlewis_> onur_: if you have OE setup already it is a good tool to use.
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  • [20:09:01] <onur_> you're really helpful. thanks
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  • [20:30:29] <djlewis_> spow_: if you do the loopback rx to tx and cat to the port you should get an echo if it works
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  • [20:31:36] <spow_> will try that the soonest, but i'm currently about to throw this garbage windows XP PC outta the window over an ad-hoc connection issue
  • [20:32:20] <djlewis_> spow_: fdisk, live linux cd, install :)
  • [20:32:41] <spow_> the connection is set, if I immediately ping the PC the first 2 packets are aclknowledged and after that ... nothing ... even though in the goddarn network manager it says the freakin connection is still active !! raaaah
  • [20:33:05] <spow_> yeah, i'm doing that but I think my network card is not supported under linux
  • [20:33:26] <spow_> I found an unofficial driver, Kubuntu 10.04 is currently installing ;)
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  • [20:34:15] <djlewis_> spow_: a terminal on the loopback is good too.
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  • [20:34:24] <djlewis_> terminal prog that is
  • [20:34:36] <koen> jkridner|work: http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/5497296135/
  • [20:34:55] <spow_> djlewis_ : i'm sorry but I don't understand your prev. 2 statements
  • [20:35:01] <jkridner> koen: I just sent you some e-mail. my work e-mail was down most of the day.
  • [20:35:20] <djlewis_> spow_: you can use a terminal application to test the loopback too.
  • [20:35:22] <koen> jkridner: typing an abstract right now
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  • [20:35:27] <jkridner> koen: sweet. I want one! :)
  • [20:35:36] <koen> you caught me just before I opened a bottle of wine :)
  • [20:35:40] <jkridner> abstract is fine, but I mean the coaster with cap.
  • [20:35:43] <spow_> you mean unplug the UART1 and plug it on UART2 ?
  • [20:35:49] <djlewis_> no
  • [20:35:59] <koen> jkridner: I'll send you a v2 or v3 next week
  • [20:36:03] <prpplague> koen: hey no one wants those
  • [20:36:04] <jkridner> koen: abstracts always sound better over a glass of wine. worse after a bottle.
  • [20:36:15] <prpplague> koen: stop distracting from the purpose of a good dev board
  • [20:36:16] * djlewis_ see's koen shoved everything on desktop to the side for pretty picture ;)
  • [20:36:51] <jkridner> koen: need holes for screw hardware.
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  • [20:37:07] <djlewis_> or duct tape
  • [20:37:30] <jkridner> what is nice, once I have my MakerBot, I'll be able to adjust it to make a case that includes room for my Trainer-xM.
  • [20:37:43] <jkridner> That's something the DogHouse can't do for me.
  • [20:38:08] <djlewis_> jkridner: reminds me I need more standoffs
  • [20:38:30] <jkridner> I don't know why I didn't use the zippy more before now...
  • [20:38:51] <jkridner> I love having the second SD slot and Ethernet.
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  • [20:39:23] <djlewis_> i use thumbdrives and usb to pata/sata adapters
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  • [20:40:19] <jkridner> yeah, I usually use an SD-to-USB adapter and an xM, but I've been trying to do more testing on older boards. having the Zippy makes it a lot happier.
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  • [20:43:27] <djlewis_> spow_: like minicom to UART2
  • [20:44:06] <spow_> I only have 1 serial port ^^
  • [20:44:08] <prpplague> jkridner: hehe
  • [20:44:11] <smplman> would usb load the system faster over sd on an XM?
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  • [20:45:21] <koen> jkridner: zippy ethernet is awesome when using the ISP, since that kills the EHCI driver
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  • [20:50:15] <djlewis_> spow_: on that serial port in your console launch minicom to uart2
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  • [20:50:47] <spow_> djlewis_ : I only have one serial port on my pc
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  • [20:52:07] <djlewis_> spow_: are you using the one serial port to console to beagleboard?
  • [20:52:27] <spow_> djlewis_ : yes
  • [20:52:34] <spow_> through UART1
  • [20:53:05] <djlewis_> then in that console type minicom if it is instaled. then connect minicom to uart2 by tty name
  • [20:53:34] <djlewis_> follow?
  • [20:53:47] <spow_> that basically is unplugging UART1 to plug it onto UART2 ^^
  • [20:53:51] <djlewis_> no
  • [20:54:09] <spow_> then I really don't understand, sorry
  • [20:54:25] <djlewis_> somebody? to test a loopback on his bb uart2?
  • [20:55:12] <spow_> I know what minicom is and stuff, I just don't understand what kind of connection you explain
  • [20:55:31] <djlewis_> while you are on your BB console, launch minicom on BB.
  • [20:55:42] <spow_> oooohhh from the BB
  • [20:55:42] <djlewis_> Connect inside minicom to uart2
  • [20:55:48] <djlewis_> :)
  • [20:55:51] <spow_> okay okay I get it
  • [20:55:51] <djlewis_> applaud
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  • [20:56:15] <sakoman_> xxiao: sorry, I had to leave the office earlier this morning! wasn't ignoring you :-)
  • [20:56:50] <spow_> just finishing with that Kubuntu install on 2nd PC first then i'll jump onto the UART2 stuff
  • [20:57:02] <djlewis_> sakoman_: spow: has a question for you
  • [20:57:11] <sakoman_> xxiao: I've never seen/used the mk-mmc script from TI so I have no idea what it is doing!
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  • [20:57:24] <spow_> hey sakoman_, in your R12 build did you change the MUX so that RX is available ?
  • [20:57:38] <djlewis_> he means uart2
  • [20:58:14] <spow_> Yeah, the UART2 for Rev C4 has only 4 of its 5 pins connected by default
  • [20:58:29] <spow_> At least this is what I understood from the datasheet
  • [20:59:18] * sakoman_ checks
  • [21:00:05] <Tectu> sakoman_, got a SanDisk microSD damn is that hell faster than the Kingston one^^
  • [21:00:18] <sakoman_> Tectu: good choice :-)
  • [21:00:34] <djlewis_> Tectu: How fast is it ;)
  • [21:00:38] <Tectu> sakoman_, thanks for your recommendation (or how ever you have to say that)
  • [21:00:51] <Tectu> djlewis_, faster as my i7 with SSD in RAID 0 ^^ xD
  • [21:00:58] <djlewis_> lol
  • [21:01:02] <spow_> :O
  • [21:01:45] <Tectu> i know that i cant use saveenv on a BB xM because it dosen't have any NAND, i think i have to write the same commands to a file called boot.cmd or boot.src?
  • [21:01:57] <djlewis_> yup
  • [21:02:23] <Tectu> how can i do that? i mean i don't have an editor on bootmode via RS232 ?!
  • [21:03:36] <sakoman_> spow_: yu can examine how the mux is set here: http://www.sakoman.com/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=u-boot.git;a=blob;f=board/ti/beagle/beagle.h;h=b0e26e5081ac48430b9e6184c09205d5362ac2f0;hb=refs/heads/gnome-r12
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  • [21:04:16] <djlewis_> Tectu: someone posted that this morning
  • [21:04:29] <spow_> sakoman_ : it's valid for rev C4 ofc ?
  • [21:04:32] <djlewis_> Tectu: I think aholler
  • [21:05:04] <Tectu> djlewis_, what do you mean? ah, i asked that yesterday on my country^^ can
  • [21:05:13] <Tectu> but i haven't read it, timed out while sleeping
  • [21:05:22] <sakoman_> spow, yes theoretically :-)
  • [21:05:47] <spow_> sakoman_ : great, thanks for your help :)
  • [21:06:43] <spow_> sakoman_ : btw, thanks as well for providing a script that makes life of noobs easier, saved me and a couple of my buddies as well
  • [21:07:27] <sakoman_> spow_: I'm lazy, I did the script for myself :-)
  • [21:08:19] <Tectu> sakoman_, that proves, that lazy people rock^^
  • [21:09:51] <spow_> lazyness is the motor of ingenuity, and it prob. started with the wheelbarrow
  • [21:11:52] <Tectu> so can anyone of you tell me (Again) how i can do that with the boot.cmd or the boot.src (btw. which must i use?)
  • [21:12:44] <spow_> D'oh, i'm afraid TX is disabled in my current configuration upon reading the link
  • [21:12:55] <spow_> So I do have to recompile a kernel :'(
  • [21:13:23] <djlewis_> Tectu: http://www.beagleboard.org/irclogs/
  • [21:13:51] <Tectu> djlewis_, thanks o.O
  • [21:15:12] <djlewis_> Tectu: anytime :)
  • [21:16:18] <Tectu> djlewis_, you're sure that it was aholler?
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  • [21:19:05] <djlewis_> Tectu: not 100%
  • [21:21:54] <Tectu> djlewis_, there's nothing in the log -.- xD
  • [21:23:09] <djlewis_> Tectu: 2011-03-03
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  • [21:29:29] <Tectu> djlewis_, Ctrl+F tabbed the whole log ^^
  • [21:30:32] <djlewis_> Tectu: ok! 23:55:25] <aholler> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=beagleboard+mkimage
  • [21:31:06] <djlewis_> Tectu: i wouldnt have given it to you if you ahd been the person asking yesterday ;)
  • [21:32:06] <Tectu> i saw that link, thanks ^^ then i missunderstoot something, i am sorry.
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  • [21:57:15] <beagle2> hey all, can someone help me with an 'opkg update' error?
  • [21:57:31] <beagle2> it shouldn'nt take more than a few hours to run, right?
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  • [22:00:51] <beagle2> here's the pastebin of my terminal, if anyone's curious http://pastebin.com/qykvMk9h
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  • [22:03:26] <beagle2060> 'pretty dead in here...huh?
  • [22:03:33] <beagle2060> everyone having a good wekeend? ^^
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  • [22:12:33] <djlewis_> beagle2: still at it huh?
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  • [22:14:12] <beagle2060> :'(
  • [22:14:27] <beagle2060> to be fair, i haven't put it many hours since that design deadline, lol
  • [22:14:54] <beagle2060> but ya...i found a forum for a board other than the BB, but running 'opkg update' on Angstrom
  • [22:15:03] <beagle2060> and it seems to be making a bit of progress...
  • [22:15:24] <beagle2060> i don't have the scary 'server not found, request timed out' error on my terminal anymore anyway
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  • [22:16:02] <beagle2060> djlewis: do you know anything about the 'etc/sysctl.conf ' file?
  • [22:16:12] <beagle2060> cause i think mine is empty on my distro,
  • [22:16:26] <beagle2060> but the forum said to disable something in there and it appeared to work, lol
  • [22:17:03] <beagle2060> i just realized my name has 3 supurflous characters at the end for some odd reason...lol
  • [22:17:20] <beagle2060> on the plus side: i got an internship for the summer!
  • [22:17:25] <beagle2060> NOT working with Beagles
  • [22:17:27] <beagle2060> (i hope)
  • [22:17:55] <beagle2060> brb
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  • [22:20:09] <spow_> well, I cat'd every ttySx with no result
  • [22:20:28] <spow_> I guess it confirms that Tx isn't available :(
  • [22:20:45] <spow_> happy week end of kernel recompiling I guess
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  • [22:21:55] <beagle2> bak
  • [22:22:06] <beagle2> so how much progress have you made, djlewis?
  • [22:26:08] <spow_> I think it would take me less time to interface a slave PIC with the I2C and let it deal with the 2nd serial I need ...
  • [22:29:04] <spow_> actually I think I'm going to do just that
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  • [22:32:01] <djlewis_> spow_: 1.8vDC interface
  • [22:32:31] <spow_> 1.8? arg
  • [22:32:44] <spow_> I need 3.3V logic at least
  • [22:32:53] <mru> meet the level shifter
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  • [22:33:00] <mru> TI's bread and butter
  • [22:33:13] <djlewis_> spow_: grab a TinCanTools Trainer board
  • [22:33:17] <spow_> I've seen some it's too expensive
  • [22:33:33] <djlewis_> yeah it would be for a single need
  • [22:33:44] * spow_ grabs a cord and prepares a nice knot
  • [22:34:48] <spow_> 1.8v means that the goddamn zigbee module can't be interfaced anyways :(-
  • [22:34:57] <spow_> i'm screwed
  • [22:36:39] <lwithers> spow_: you can use level shifters. You might even be able to get away with potential dividers for some purposes
  • [22:37:26] <spow_> i'll see if farnell has a few cheap ones
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  • [22:38:38] <djlewis_> spow_: a bowline knot is nice :)
  • [22:39:13] <spow_> no DIP level shifters under 3V
  • [22:40:01] <lwithers> which interface, SPI? I2C?
  • [22:40:02] <djlewis_> har har! dip in 1.8v... i been complaing about that for 2 years ow :(
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  • [22:40:59] <spow_> yep, and I've been through components mounted on surface once, not ever again !
  • [22:41:23] <spow_> otherwise I can switch my whole system to WiFi since it's the only thing I got working so far ...
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  • [22:47:58] <spow_> mmmh maybe this one I can actually solder
  • [22:47:59] <spow_> http://fr.farnell.com/on-semiconductor/mc74vhc1gt50dtt1/ic-translator-logic-level/dp/1652259
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  • [22:52:36] <spow_> lwithers : what's the potential divider option ? say I'm sticking with UART
  • [22:53:18] <spow_> means I can achieve voltage increase with resistors only ?
  • [22:54:15] <lwithers> spow_: no, afraid not
  • [22:54:33] <lwithers> spow_: but if 1V8 is enough for the device you are connecting to read logic high, then you can do it
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  • [22:55:20] <lwithers> the potential divider is to take the voltage of any line driven by the connected device down to 1V8 to avoid damaging the Beagle
  • [22:55:24] <spow_> there's a small chance since it can work on either 3.3 or 5, so 3.3 would make low below 1.65 if i'm very very lucky
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  • [22:57:12] <lwithers> yeah; I'm pretty sure that's how my colleague has hooked up an ADS1256 on our Beagle's SPI.
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  • [22:57:13] <djlewis_> spow_: visit sparkfun and copy their little level convertor bd.
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  • [22:57:13] <djlewis_> I think FET and resistors
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  • [22:58:17] <spow_> it's actually $1.95 I can afford that ^^
  • [22:58:32] <djlewis_> not for high speed
  • [22:58:41] <spow_> strange, others I've seen were 20+ at least
  • [22:59:48] <spow_> would you consider serial to be high speed ?
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  • [23:00:23] <mru> 9600bps was considered high speed once upon a time
  • [23:00:44] <lwithers> spow_: you mean a UART at 115200 or so? no, that's pretty low by most standards
  • [23:01:00] <spow_> so this would do it ? :http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8745
  • [23:01:03] <mru> the omap uart can go much faster than that
  • [23:01:09] <spow_> 115200
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  • [23:01:36] <spow_> but I think my peripheral would work w/ the standard 9600
  • [23:01:58] <lwithers> spow_: yes, that looks exactly like what you need
  • [23:02:19] * spow_ unties the knot for the moment
  • [23:03:21] <lwithers> spow_: do read the comments though to make sure the limitations they mention won't affect you
  • [23:04:29] <spow_> what i'm currently doing but 1/ english ain't my primary language 2/ i started electronics this year (4 years of flows mechanics behind :/) ^^
  • [23:05:15] <spow_> so their technical charabia is tough to digest ^^
  • [23:05:41] <lwithers> ok, I think what it comes down to is that the board has two active channels and two passive. The passive ones use a potential divider so the ouptut voltage is 1/2 of the input voltage
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  • [23:07:18] <lwithers> if you're using just the UART, this looks like the perfect match, since you can use the two active channels
  • [23:08:09] <lwithers> ignore what they've labelled as "RX" and "TX" and just hook your two signals up to the "TX" and "TX2" lines
  • [23:08:27] <spow_> so TX from the board would be connected to that and RX to a simple resistor ?
  • [23:09:04] <spow_> since I need BB TX 1.8 => >3.3 and BB RX <== ~1.8
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  • [23:10:12] <lwithers> I think you'd connect BB_TX to TX_LV, BB_RX to TX2_LV; device_TX to TX_HV and device_RX to TX2_HV
  • [23:10:26] <lwithers> and you'd set LV=1V8 and HV=3V3 or 5V
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  • [23:12:08] <spow_> yep
  • [23:12:10] <spow_> great
  • [23:12:21] <spow_> thanks so much to the 3 of yo
  • [23:12:24] <spow_> you*
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