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  • [00:23:12] <nndhawan> +i
  • [00:23:24] <nndhawan> help
  • [00:23:55] <nndhawan> whoops sorry my first time I was trying to see if that was a IRC command
  • [00:24:02] <mru> have you tried turning it off and on again?
  • [00:24:57] <nndhawan> Hi I am university student needing a little guidance, is there anyone I can speak with?
  • [00:24:59] <nndhawan> Thanks.
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  • [00:28:11] <aholler> nndhawan: don't ask to ask, just ask your question
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  • [00:29:29] <nndhawan> O ok, I didn't realize it was that simple
  • [00:30:07] <nndhawan> Simple question: I am trying to connect my beagleboard to the internet using a RJ45 connector and it didn't work.
  • [00:30:12] <aholler> it is, as long as you don't expect an answer ;)
  • [00:30:40] <nndhawan> How can I make sure that I have the proper converter from USB to ethernet
  • [00:30:53] <nndhawan> haha funny aholler
  • [00:31:25] <aholler> dmesg
  • [00:31:32] <nndhawan> yeap did that
  • [00:31:50] <nndhawan> ummm...I definitely got a kernel message saying no network interface found
  • [00:32:30] <nndhawan> and when I tried ifdown eth0, it said no device found (I can recall the entire message :(
  • [00:32:38] <aholler> first which beagle?
  • [00:32:44] <nndhawan> C4
  • [00:33:24] <aholler> do you have seen a kernel meesage when you've pluged in the usb-eth-adapter?
  • [00:34:25] <nndhawan> yes it said no device found, this is from the booting that prints out to the terminal on Angstrom
  • [00:34:42] <nndhawan> not when I was actually in the file system
  • [00:34:48] <aholler> i mean in dmesg.
  • [00:35:05] <aholler> when you attach the adapter a message should apear there
  • [00:35:21] <nndhawan> no I did not actually try to look through dmesg, instead I used dmesg | grep usb0
  • [00:35:41] <aholler> and you will see all ifs with ifconfig -a or ip addr
  • [00:35:41] <nndhawan> nothing came up...was this a correct method to try?
  • [00:36:06] <nndhawan> I didn't not try that
  • [00:36:16] <nndhawan> did not *
  • [00:36:54] <nndhawan> but then again the lights on the routher's ethernet port did not turn on
  • [00:38:15] <aholler> remove the adpater, attach the adapter, paste dmesg to fpaste.org, dpaste.org or pastebin.com
  • [00:39:20] <nndhawan> unfortunately I don't have the adapter with me
  • [00:39:45] <nndhawan> I can do this at later time, maybe in half an hour?
  • [00:39:47] <aholler> it doesn't make sense to ask questions if can't use the answers ;)
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  • [00:44:43] <nndhawan> honestly you are the first to give me answers : ) (compared to other beagleboard IRC related channels)
  • [00:45:10] <aholler> there are more channels than this one here?
  • [00:45:28] <nndhawan> well related channels (i.e. openembedded, angstrom, and so forth)
  • [00:46:11] <nndhawan> curious who normally works on IRC for beagle
  • [00:46:27] <aholler> nobody
  • [00:47:26] <nndhawan> how does it work, is it voluntary and regulars who visit the channel
  • [00:47:31] <aholler> that community supports means you are alone without support from the manufacturer
  • [00:48:52] <nndhawan> are their regulars from the community that come to the channel to keep people from pulling their hair out ;)
  • [00:49:21] <aholler> /who shows nobody, or?
  • [00:50:37] <aholler> but many people don't feel the need to answer basic linux questions. For such books are available ;)
  • [00:50:54] <aholler> and linux-channels
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  • [00:51:55] <aholler> starting with linux using a beagleboard is something I wouldn't suggest ;)
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  • [00:52:29] <nndhawan> well I wasn't sure if my hardware was correct, I was certain it was not working
  • [00:52:52] <nndhawan> because most people say it works normally right away
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  • [00:52:56] <nndhawan> and there is little configuration
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  • [00:56:07] <nndhawan> aholler can you confirm this for me at least: does the USB to RJ45 the correct connector type for the beagleboard and there is no other type of connector that is the correct type?
  • [00:56:32] <nndhawan> because this seems like the way it is but I just want to make sure
  • [00:57:00] <aholler> I don't understand that question. what is a USB to RJ45 connector?
  • [00:57:21] <aholler> you'll need something with a chip inside
  • [00:57:34] <nndhawan> RJ45 I believe is the ethernet standard
  • [00:57:38] <nndhawan> yea that is what I figured
  • [00:57:45] <nndhawan> to convert the bits from serial to ethernet
  • [00:57:47] <Ceriand|work> 802.3 is the ethernet standard
  • [00:58:13] <nndhawan> RJ45 is something, I don't know what category it falls in (possibly wire arrangment...not sure)
  • [00:58:27] <Ceriand|work> it's the model of the connector
  • [00:58:36] <aholler> youll need such one: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=usb+ethernet&x=0&y=0
  • [00:59:08] <Ceriand|work> nndhawan: I'd try your USB to Ethernet adapter on a PC Linux box and see if it works at all on there first
  • [00:59:45] <Ceriand|work> not all USB ethernet adapters are compatible with Linux
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  • [00:59:57] <aholler> those adapters for $2 usually are working
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  • [01:00:29] <Ceriand|work> and if it's not a high-speed adapter, you'll need a hub between it and the BB if you're not using an xM
  • [01:00:55] <aholler> I don't think there is an usb-eth-adapter which isn't high-speed
  • [01:01:02] <Ceriand|work> I have one
  • [01:01:19] <aholler> uh, what's that?
  • [01:01:42] <Ceriand|work> trendnet tu-et100C
  • [01:01:50] <Ceriand|work> uses the pegasus linux driver
  • [01:02:30] <aholler> how should that thing do fast-ethernet (100) without using high-speed?
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  • [01:04:03] <nndhawan> Ceriand|work: Is the pegasus linux driver pre-installed in Angstrom packages on kernel version 2.6.32 or will I have to download it from the net (which will pretty much defeat the purpose :) hehe)?
  • [01:04:28] <Ceriand|work> dunno, I don't use angstrom
  • [01:04:53] <nndhawan> well I guess I could rebuild my angstrom to use it...o ok, let me check then
  • [01:05:09] <nndhawan> thanks btw
  • [01:05:34] <Ceriand|work> nndhawan: I don't know if that's your driver though
  • [01:05:57] <aholler> nndhawan: even without a driver linux should see the usb-device
  • [01:05:58] <Ceriand|work> and like I said, if it's not a high-speed device, you'll have to use a hub
  • [01:06:31] <thurbad> I use the pegasus driver for usb to ethernet in 2.6.32 linux under angstrom
  • [01:07:01] <nndhawan> yea I am gonna do some google searches right now to find out, aholler: are you suggesting I don't need the pegasus driver?
  • [01:07:20] <thurbad> it shoul dbe preinstalled and run as eth0, if you have that enabled in your interfaces file
  • [01:07:21] <Ceriand|work> he's saying you should at least see it enumerate
  • [01:07:38] <aholler> nndhawan: I suggest nothing as I don't know what adapter you have
  • [01:07:58] <Ceriand|work> nndhawan: try your adapter with a high-speed USB hub and see if you get more success
  • [01:08:10] <aholler> nndhawan: get the dmesg and come back ;)
  • [01:08:27] <nndhawan> ok that sounds like a good suggestion, aholler: lol thanks
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  • [01:08:55] <nndhawan> thanks you guys are awesome for all the responses and suggestions!
  • [01:09:17] <nndhawan> maybe I can help out some newbie someday... haha later
  • [01:13:04] <nndhawan> Btw, I don't know who handles this but I just noticed that the IRC log at www.beagleboard.org/irclogs is off by one day
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  • [05:14:57] <vijaybaragur> Hi ppl, i m newbie to beagleboard xm,
  • [05:15:42] <vijaybaragur> Anybody ported WINCe 6.0 on beagleboard Xm?
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  • [05:19:45] <vijaybaragur> have anybody tried interfacing OMAP with LVDS interface LCD's?
  • [05:21:24] <ds2> sure, plenty of folks
  • [05:22:47] <vijaybaragur> Is any adapter board available to interface it with beagle xm?
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  • [05:23:47] <ds2> donno, don't care. build them as needed
  • [05:24:38] <ds2> it is pretty trival to build
  • [05:26:25] <prpplague> vijaybaragur: its pretty easy to use something like a SN75LVDS83B with the beagle or panda to an lvds panel
  • [05:26:45] <prpplague> vijaybaragur: about the hardest part of it is connecting to the 1.27mm lcd expanion header on the beagle
  • [05:27:11] <ds2> 1.27mm is trivial to deal with
  • [05:27:27] <ds2> 0.4mm for more fun
  • [05:27:46] <prpplague> i'd much rather have 0.4mm than the 1.27mm
  • [05:27:51] <prpplague> i hate those connectors
  • [05:28:18] <ds2> each their own, I _HATE_ metric. it is stupid and idiotic
  • [05:28:20] <prpplague> vijaybaragur: anyway, the datasheet for the SN75LVDS83B has some example cpu and panel configurations
  • [05:28:31] <vijaybaragur> yeah, so its much better to build your own board..
  • [05:28:33] <ds2> short summary - it is trivial.
  • [05:29:00] <prpplague> vijaybaragur: for now atleast
  • [05:30:09] <prpplague> vijaybaragur: got a particular panel in mind?
  • [05:30:30] <vijaybaragur> also, wince 6.0 supports RGB 565 configuration, when using the 18bit lvds transmitter, shud i take care of the RGB 565 configuration before the LVDS transmitter
  • [05:31:59] <vijaybaragur> we plan to use Vertex LCD, vertex suggest to use National semiconductor part DS90C363B 18bit LVDS transmitter
  • [05:32:07] <prpplague> vijaybaragur: you probably would want to use a 24bit configuration on the omap side and just do a 18-bit color config on the lvds side
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  • [05:32:47] <prpplague> vijaybaragur: that part is basically identical to the SN75LVDS83B iirc
  • [05:33:14] * prpplague checks
  • [05:33:36] <vijaybaragur> oh ok, will check that,
  • [05:34:39] <vijaybaragur> right now have connected DSS0- DSS17(RGB) to the LVDS transmitter input thru the 3.3V buffers
  • [05:35:32] <vijaybaragur> and output 4 channels of LVDS to the connector
  • [05:36:49] <prpplague> vijaybaragur: yea just checked, you need to use the SN75LVDS83B, as there is no need for the 3.3v buffers if you use that part
  • [05:37:23] <prpplague> vijaybaragur: checkout the datasheet for the SN75LVDS83B it has a reference for 24-bit host to 18-bit lcd
  • [05:38:21] <prpplague> vijaybaragur: http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/sn75lvds83b.html
  • [05:39:05] <prpplague> vijaybaragur: the 83b supports a seperate power supply down to 1.8v which means no need for level shifters to interface to the omap
  • [05:39:48] <vijaybaragur> oh is it, will check that, also how about the software for the same.. my s/w guys wants to know abt the WINCE drivers for it, since wince supports RGB 565,
  • [05:40:18] <vijaybaragur> will definetly try for it, it will save our board size...
  • [05:40:45] <ds2> thou shalt not use windows.
  • [05:41:24] <prpplague> vijaybaragur: internally the omap3 display subsystem generally likes to handle things as 24-bit color for configurations such as the 18-bit display
  • [05:42:07] <prpplague> vijaybaragur: i've not seen the driver for omap3 dss for wince, but if it is like the other wince drivers i have seen, there should be some setup for 24-bit configuration
  • [05:42:34] <prpplague> vijaybaragur: where are you getting your beagleboard bsp from?
  • [05:44:43] <vijaybaragur> right now we have beagleboard Xm, on which our team is building some applications n trying to port android. also we are building our own board based on DM3730, have also ported wince on EVM kit either
  • [05:45:19] <prpplague> vijaybaragur: ahh
  • [05:47:15] <vijaybaragur> we have already made the schematics for the new board, for which we had to use LVDS based LCD, since we have never tried LVDS before, wanted to confirm abt the connections before we launch the board to fab
  • [05:48:04] <prpplague> vijaybaragur: have a look at the examples for the sn5lvds83b
  • [05:49:58] <vijaybaragur> DS90C383B and SN75LVDS83B are not pin compatible though, but functionality wise same. will look into it, hope TI has a eval kit for the part.
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  • [07:02:11] <tahsin> hi
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  • [07:18:55] <_av500_> ds2: metric hates you too
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  • [07:23:30] <xerebz> i just hit the reset button on my beagle and now no output is coming out of my dvi
  • [07:23:39] <xerebz> i've restarted multiple times
  • [07:23:49] <xerebz> how do i fix this?
  • [07:24:32] <thurbad> generally you hook up a serial connection and watch for an indication of where it failed
  • [07:24:45] <xerebz> it's booting into linux just fine according to serial
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  • [07:25:18] <xerebz> my monitor usually shows something but it's just saying No Signal
  • [07:25:36] <thurbad> have you checked the video connections then?
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  • [07:26:50] <xerebz> i moved them all around
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  • [07:26:54] <thurbad> does your monitor have multiple inputs?
  • [07:27:05] <xerebz> if i disconnect the dvi for example instead it'll say check signal cable
  • [07:27:07] <xerebz> no it doesn't
  • [07:27:20] <xerebz> i mean this happened just when i hit the reset button while it was running
  • [07:29:15] <thurbad> have you tried pulling the power entirely and replugging it in?
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  • [07:30:01] <thurbad> btw, it's recommended that you don't plug/unplug the video while the beagle is powered
  • [07:31:31] <xerebz> i tried the pull the power thing
  • [07:31:37] <xerebz> still doesn't work
  • [07:32:46] <ericb2> xerebz: can you try another device on the same monitor ? As a starting point, check whether it works, or is selected e.g. could help
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  • [07:37:46] <xerebz> ericb2: i connected the hdmi to my ps3, it works fine
  • [07:38:16] <ericb2> xerebz: ok. so the issue is on the BB side
  • [07:38:19] <xerebz> ericb2: it doesn't even turn on for the initial boot process where it usually at least turns on so
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  • [07:46:52] <thurbad> your monitor is hdmi only?
  • [07:49:46] <xerebz> its also vga but no s video
  • [07:52:07] <xerebz> i saw a post on this topic http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/3b40583119f5ca3a
  • [07:52:45] <xerebz> but there's no solution.. i believe this has happened to me before when i accidentally hit the reset button when the dvi was connected and the system was powered
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  • [08:12:58] <thurbad> you're using an xm and ubuntu?
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  • [08:19:46] <thurbad> have you tried fsck'ing your sd partitions from a working linux box?
  • [08:20:42] <thurbad> make sure they're unmounted before running fsck on them
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  • [08:31:33] <ericb2> mbonnin: ping ?
  • [08:31:58] <av500> ericb2: he usually sleeps in long
  • [08:32:11] <ericb2> av500: ok :p
  • [08:32:12] <av500> too much wii gaming
  • [08:32:15] <ericb2> av500: thanks :)
  • [08:32:25] <av500> de rien :)
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  • [08:57:29] <xerebz> the sd partitions are fine and i'm running xm and ubuntu, i tried a fresh install and it works
  • [08:57:39] <xerebz> something got messed up on my booting files it seems
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  • [08:58:20] <donglongchao> Hi.
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  • [09:00:50] <xerebz> what could be some of the files that don't let dvi output anything on boot?
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  • [09:03:48] <xerebz> btw i got it to work
  • [09:04:23] <xerebz> i transferred u-boot.bin and uImage from a fresh install and it worked
  • [09:04:46] <xerebz> i think something went wrong with u-boot.bin imho (this happens when you slap the reset button while the machine is powered)
  • [09:07:45] <Norritt42> I'm new to IRC and BB. Im trying to use rc.local to run a daemon on startup but the file does not exist. Are there any equivalent file?
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  • [09:17:38] <jacekowski> /etc/init.d/some_file
  • [09:17:44] <jacekowski> create sysv in init file
  • [09:18:18] <thurbad> Norritt42, there's /etc/rcX.d/ symbolic links if you're using angstrom
  • [09:18:40] <thurbad> where X is your runlevel
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  • [09:27:11] <Norritt42> thnx il try that
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  • [09:43:51] <xerebz> every 10 seconds or so there seems to be a write to the microsd card this causes a hang if there's any cpu intensive process going on on the beagleboard
  • [09:44:21] <xerebz> swap is empty and there is plenty of ram
  • [09:44:40] <xerebz> how can i check what's writing to the microsd?
  • [09:45:03] <thurbad> lsof maybe avaialbe if you're using ubuntu
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  • [09:46:07] <xerebz> thanks, btw thurbad did you see how i fixed it?
  • [09:46:21] <xerebz> something went wrong with the uImage file actually it wasn't the u-boot.bin
  • [09:46:37] <xerebz> just had to replace it with a stock file
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  • [11:04:09] <av500> raster: can I haz a dev phone too?
  • [11:04:32] <vijay_> Has anybody used sn75lvds83b lvds transmitter with Omap processor?
  • [11:04:58] <av500> some have, yes
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  • [11:06:11] <vijay_> we have a vertex lcd with lvds interface.. n want to port wince 6.0 on it, how do we proceed ? wince supports 565 configuration of RGB
  • [11:08:40] <av500> rgb565 is supported
  • [11:08:43] <aholler_> a deb dev phone would be nice ;)
  • [11:09:03] <av500> shhh
  • [11:09:59] <vijay_> what would be the connections? should we gnd the LSB's to configure it in 565 combination at the sn75lvds83b input side?
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  • [11:12:55] <xerebz> i'm trying to run luvcview with a camera but it keeps macroblocking/stalling every few seconds even on the lowest resolution (160x120) and yuv too
  • [11:13:37] <xerebz> any suggestions?
  • [11:13:56] <aholler_> test that on a pc
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  • [11:14:24] <_koen_> and one fire drill later...
  • [11:14:26] <xerebz> i have and it worked fine
  • [11:15:38] <aholler> nothing else runs on the bb?
  • [11:15:55] <xerebz> luvcview is running inside icewm
  • [11:16:16] <xerebz> but nothing else is running
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  • [11:17:37] <aholler> maybe something fills your logs.
  • [11:17:46] <aholler> or uses swap
  • [11:17:54] <xerebz> i'm checking top
  • [11:17:59] <xerebz> and it says 0kb in swap
  • [11:18:00] <av500> vijay_: ???
  • [11:18:10] <xerebz> it might be the logs tho..
  • [11:18:31] <aholler> try stopping syslog
  • [11:18:44] <av500> vijay_: you dont need to ground anything
  • [11:18:55] <aholler> if your are using a sd, everything which writes there is a pain ;)
  • [11:18:58] <av500> you connect all 24 bit to the 83
  • [11:19:37] <xerebz> i tried doing a killall to rsyslogd
  • [11:19:40] <xerebz> it didn't seem to work
  • [11:19:55] <aholler> some lcds are supporting less connections. I would read the datasheet
  • [11:20:10] <vijay_> oh is it... but my LCD is 18bit one,
  • [11:20:32] <ericb2> just curious : is it possible to buy a development card, ARM A15 or equivalent based, and multi-core ?
  • [11:21:10] <ericb2> the most powerfull pubic board I found online is PandaBoard, OMAP4 based, but not more
  • [11:22:01] <aholler> arm a15 just got announced, let them first go away from the drawing-board
  • [11:23:04] <ericb2> aholler: was a discussion with a Debian dev who said I can buy such boards today
  • [11:23:17] <ericb2> but I must be blind .. I can't find one
  • [11:23:25] <aholler> have a look at animalboard.org, there all those non-fish-boards ;)
  • [11:24:23] <av500> ericb2: no A15 board yet
  • [11:24:35] <ericb2> av500: maybe A9 ?
  • [11:24:40] <av500> sure
  • [11:24:41] <av500> panda
  • [11:24:48] <aholler> tip, the lower left will be the one
  • [11:24:54] <aholler> s/left/right/
  • [11:24:55] <ericb2> av500: ok, and it's multi-cores ?
  • [11:25:01] <av500> yes, dual
  • [11:25:13] <xerebz> what's a quick way to check syslog msgs/disable the daemon?
  • [11:25:32] <aholler> /etc/init.d/syslog stop
  • [11:26:08] <xerebz> oh yeah x.x
  • [11:29:15] <ericb2> after a full rebuild, I used -march=armv7-a -mtune=cortex-a8 -mfpu=neon -mfloat-abi=softfp -D__SOFTFP__ flags, and I see the binaries size is ~3% less than without these options
  • [11:29:37] <ericb2> (building OOo4Kids on OMAP3)
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  • [11:37:40] <aholler> av500: gcc -dumpspecs will tell you what is used without your options
  • [11:37:41] <xerebz> aholler: it was syslog thanks
  • [11:37:46] <aholler> s/av500/
  • [11:37:53] <aholler> /
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  • [11:38:45] <xerebz> the sd card is so slow.. would running the rootfs off of a usb drive be any faster/be possible?
  • [11:38:56] <aholler> yes
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  • [11:39:25] <xerebz> but the boot partition would have to stay on the sd right?
  • [11:40:08] <aholler> currently u-boot doesn't support the kernel via omap-ehci
  • [11:40:21] <aholler> I have non-working patches ;)
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  • [11:46:12] <xerebz> just to get this straight.. all i would have to do is copy the contents of the rootfs onto a flash drive and set the bootarg root=/dev/sdX?
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  • [12:00:16] <_koen_> mru: is there a way to tell omapfbplay the size of the v4l2 overlay?
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  • [12:00:32] <_koen_> mru: I'd like it to use 1080p instead of the lcd size on blaze
  • [12:04:14] <Oltsu> http://blogs.igalia.com/vjaquez/2010/12/13/aac-decoder-for-gst-dsp/
  • [12:04:58] <Oltsu> that installable image doesnt seem to boot up a gui. should there be a startx in ?ngstr?m generally, or is it something more exotic?
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  • [12:06:59] <_koen_> Oltsu: just use plain angstrom, that has had an aac dsp decoder for years now
  • [12:08:37] <Oltsu> yea but that one doesnt kernel panic when plugging in usb.. :)
  • [12:10:21] <_koen_> Oltsu: neither does angstrom if you would have bothered to read http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [12:13:40] <av500> decoding aac on the dsp is useless
  • [12:13:49] <av500> the dsp takes more power than the A8 to do that
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  • [12:14:33] <xerebz> btw i tried what i said above.. transferring to flash drive.. works like a charm
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  • [13:01:09] <gxk> guys, how to bring up beagle xm revB ethernet?
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  • [13:04:53] <Norritt42> Are you runing any OS?
  • [13:05:47] <xerebz> i'm trying to run qjackctl on ubuntu/xm and it consumes 100% of the cpu and just locks..
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  • [13:06:37] <xerebz> has anyone tried to do anything with routing audio on the beagleboard?
  • [13:08:10] <Norritt42> [gxk] Are you runging any OS
  • [13:09:00] <mru> _koen_: fix the v4l driver so the display size can be queried instead
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  • [13:09:59] <_koen_> gxk: it's up by default in angstrom
  • [13:10:07] <_koen_> gxk: try 'udhcpc -i usb0'
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  • [14:42:55] <mdp> gxk, bring up?
  • [14:44:40] * mdp notes _koen_ already explained :)
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  • [14:50:24] <Norritt42> Hi all, I cant get RSE server working. I get "...Java_java_lang_management......: IMPLEMENT ME! " Do this mean that my Java version is not up to date ?
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  • [15:02:22] <sakoman> koen: I notice you have wl1271 patches in your 2.6.37 recipe
  • [15:03:20] <sakoman> do you have any recipe support for adding the the firmware (and other required files) to an image?
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  • [15:03:55] <_koen_> sakoman: sort off
  • [15:04:03] <_koen_> sakoman: they are in the linux-firmware recipe
  • [15:04:53] <bioster> Hi, I'm a beagle board newbie... I've been struggling with my new C4 beagle board, and I think the problem might be that it got shipped to me with the NAND blank...
  • [15:05:34] <bioster> I've been trying to put bootup images on my MMC card and boot off of it, but haven't gotten it to work yet... if the NAND is empty, would I need to put more stuff on the card?
  • [15:05:44] <_koen_> bioster: depends
  • [15:06:02] <_koen_> bioster: you can put the files at http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/beagleboard/flasher/ on the FAT on the sd card and it will flash the NAND
  • [15:06:43] <bioster> Ok, I'll give that a go. I assume I have to be careful of the order the files go on the card?
  • [15:07:17] <sakoman> _koen_: I think the SRCREV in the linux-firmware recipe pre-dates the addition of wl1271 firmware
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  • [15:09:34] <_koen_> sakoman: there were patches on the ml recently about it
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  • [15:09:51] <_koen_> sakoman: the BT firmware is still under wraps, though
  • [15:10:15] <_koen_> sakoman: gxk is working on wl12xx stuff for beagle currently and there also is #wl12xx :)
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  • [15:10:26] <jaiber> hello
  • [15:10:30] * _koen_ has the wl12xx board next to him, but no beagle
  • [15:10:47] <jaiber> some could help with beagleboard
  • [15:11:20] <jaiber> i'd tried to set up the DSP
  • [15:11:26] <sakoman> _koen_: I have a client board with wl1271 based module on it and it is proving to be a real pain to get working
  • [15:11:47] <jaiber> and ia have the next erro ahen i execute an example
  • [15:13:23] <jaiber> DSPPRocessor_attach error: oxfffffff
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  • [15:16:58] <_koen_> sakoman: most of the magic is in the boardfile: http://dominion.thruhere.net/git/cgit.cgi/linux-omap/commit/?h=koen/beagle-next-wip&id=6188a98500a1d036ff3e48536b0477f81efa68ed
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  • [15:17:34] <Norritt42> Some RSE guru online?
  • [15:17:42] <av500> RSI?
  • [15:18:21] <Norritt42> Remote system explorer for eclipse
  • [15:18:23] <_koen_> sakoman: with the mac802.11 drivers it was suprisingly easy, we can now get 53.something megabit out of udp
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  • [15:19:15] <_koen_> emeb: what's the status on your fpga efforts?
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  • [15:21:03] <dm8tbr> koen: interesting, which wl127x driver is this?
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  • [15:22:03] <bioster> koen: Is this supposed to output anything to the serial port?
  • [15:22:21] <emeb> _koen_: gm - I haven't done much with them lately.
  • [15:22:41] <jaiber> I have this problem :"DSPProcessor_Attach failed: 0xffffffff", when i try to execute the example ping.out
  • [15:22:54] <jaiber> someone could help me please
  • [15:22:55] <emeb> my BB + FPGA board is sitting on the desk, but I haven't turned it on in months.
  • [15:26:30] <emeb> _koen_: I've had 2 or 3 inquiries from folks about buying FPGA boards which I've vectored off to Special Computing.
  • [15:26:37] <bioster> koen: Ok, so I powered the BB down and then plugged in a monitor... and now it's working.
  • [15:26:54] <bioster> koen: Is it normal to need a monitor plugged into the HDMI port in order for the BB to function?
  • [15:28:30] <_koen_> no
  • [15:28:46] <bioster> I'm going to reboot and see if flashing the NAND fixed it
  • [15:28:58] <bioster> see if it'll work without a monitor plugged into it now
  • [15:29:49] <bioster> nope... nothing comes out of the serial port when I boot with the monitor unplugged
  • [15:30:13] <bioster> bu t it outputs fine with the monitor plugged in
  • [15:30:34] <bioster> USR0 is flashing and USR1 is off... is that an error code?
  • [15:30:46] <_koen_> no
  • [15:30:52] <_koen_> the flash it the heartbeat
  • [15:30:59] <_koen_> usr1 is sd activity
  • [15:31:32] <bioster> so, do I have to RMA it then?
  • [15:32:08] <_koen_> emeb: ping jason or gerald about it
  • [15:36:46] <sakoman> _koen_: I've got all the required board changes implemented and the driver even seems to load, just doesn't work
  • [15:36:48] <emeb> _koen_: OK
  • [15:37:03] <Crofton|work> working is not importnent
  • [15:37:31] <bioster> koen: I have a beagleboard xM here too, I just haven't done much with it... partly because I haven't found a good how-to resource for getting started with one
  • [15:37:33] <sakoman> Crofton|work: ah, cool! then I've declare victory and send an invoice!
  • [15:37:39] <Crofton|work> right
  • [15:37:47] <bioster> Do you know where I could find a good starting point?
  • [15:39:29] <_koen_> bioster: www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard
  • [15:40:18] <bioster> this will work for the -xM also? Ok, cool
  • [15:40:47] <av500> sakoman: make sure you have sakomanplanb.com
  • [15:40:48] <bioster> the default image that shipped with my -xM has no serial output... is this normal?
  • [15:40:56] <av500> it has
  • [15:41:01] <av500> it should
  • [15:47:40] <sakoman> _koen_: I get only 3 messages from the wl1271 driver startup: http://paste2.org/p/1247954
  • [15:48:15] <sakoman> then silence -- no errors, no wlan device created
  • [15:48:30] <_koen_> that's with .37?
  • [15:48:35] <sakoman> yes
  • [15:49:07] <sakoman> time to dig into the source code :-(
  • [15:49:20] <_koen_> ifconfig -a shows no wlan?
  • [15:49:25] <_koen_> (just double checking)
  • [15:50:20] <sakoman> _koen_: hmmm . . . I was doing plain ifconfig
  • [15:50:33] <sakoman> ifconfig -a does show a wlan0
  • [15:50:42] <sakoman> ifconfig does not
  • [15:50:52] <_koen_> plain ifconfig only shows interfaces which are up
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  • [15:51:31] <sakoman> are there there typically any other messages at boot time (i.e. about firmware being loaded?)
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  • [15:56:55] <Norritt42> Hello
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  • [16:17:23] <Norritt42> Hello
  • [16:17:35] <Norritt42> Is cacao the best JRE
  • [16:17:40] <Norritt42> ?
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  • [16:18:57] <dewa> Hi All
  • [16:19:14] <dewa> I am trying to boot K32 kernel on beagle board
  • [16:19:38] <dewa> After building and storing uImage into the mmc, the execution jumps to kernel and
  • [16:19:47] <dewa> after decompressing of image it hangs
  • [16:19:53] <dewa> Any idea what is wrong?
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  • [16:20:23] <dewa> I strictly follow the web page and did not do any chnages on tree
  • [16:20:29] <dewa> can someone help me..
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  • [16:50:05] <swinchen> Am I reading the datasheet correct? The BeagleBoard is only 1.75W?
  • [16:51:11] <mru> something like that
  • [16:51:55] <swinchen> Wow, that is pretty impressive.
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  • [17:31:13] <Ceriand|work> word to the wise: if you use raw mem booting on the mmc and then write a partition table over a CH, the boot ROM will crash
  • [17:36:49] <av500> Ceriand|work: thats why you boot the CD in the 2nd location, no? :)
  • [17:36:58] <av500> put the CH
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  • [17:37:21] <swarog> hello
  • [17:37:23] <Ceriand|work> or just make sure you null sector 0 beforehand
  • [17:37:36] <swarog> didn't expect channel of this size :)
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  • [17:41:34] <swarog> im thinking about using beagleboard onboard of winged aircraft model. for start id just like GPS module connected to it and 2.4ghz long range (2-5km) wifi to send the telemetry to the ground station, in this case laptop
  • [17:43:03] <swarog> is that viable?
  • [17:43:23] <av500> yes
  • [17:47:47] <av500> wtf? /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr is not 0. This will cause problems with qemu so please fix the value (as root).
  • [17:48:28] <av500> koen: ^^^^^^^
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  • [18:46:03] <djlewis_> laughed my arse off when I saw "USB 2.0 to 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet" adapter on amazon.
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  • [18:52:42] <av500> more lulz: http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_frm/thread/959358bb3b9f6ac5?pli=1
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  • [19:01:53] <kyv> hummm opening top over ssh to beagle zombifies ssh
  • [19:04:18] <ZubairLK> Hello
  • [19:04:49] <ZubairLK> I have a few questions.
  • [19:04:53] <ZubairLK> Anyone willing to answer them?
  • [19:05:01] <ZubairLK> I've worked on wince.
  • [19:05:22] <ZubairLK> And would like to know about the parallel terms in linux
  • [19:05:38] <ZubairLK> In wince, we use stream drivers to access hardware.
  • [19:05:45] <ZubairLK> What do we use in linux?
  • [19:05:49] <av500> drivers
  • [19:06:06] <av500> no steam needed
  • [19:06:07] <ZubairLK> and how do i know a driver is installed?
  • [19:06:19] <av500> ah, a trick question
  • [19:06:33] <ZubairLK> like, i build my own wince os in visual studio
  • [19:06:39] <ZubairLK> select all the drivers i need
  • [19:06:45] <ZubairLK> check in the wince registery
  • [19:06:54] <ZubairLK> and then use the names/handles
  • [19:06:54] <av500> you select the drivers when you build the linux kernel
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  • [19:07:08] <ZubairLK> using bitbake?
  • [19:07:12] <av500> and access them from the /dev/... entries
  • [19:07:16] <av500> bitbake is a tool
  • [19:07:27] <av500> its not "part" of linux
  • [19:07:38] <ZubairLK> visual studio makes things so easy :s
  • [19:07:56] <ZubairLK> can you please guide me a little step by step.
  • [19:08:00] <av500> lol
  • [19:08:02] <ZubairLK> i have ubuntu installed.
  • [19:08:07] <ZubairLK> i need the bsp for beagle
  • [19:08:13] <ZubairLK> then :s
  • [19:08:13] <av500> do you have internet access?
  • [19:08:20] <ZubairLK> ofc
  • [19:08:30] <av500> try searching :)
  • [19:08:40] <ZubairLK> :)
  • [19:08:43] <av500> there is no linux step by step guide here for you
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  • [19:08:46] <ZubairLK> searched my way here
  • [19:08:58] <ZubairLK> yea. bits and pieces here and there
  • [19:09:01] <ZubairLK> :/
  • [19:09:19] <ZubairLK> one thing i know about linux
  • [19:09:30] <ZubairLK> if i don't know the name of the thing i'm searching for.
  • [19:09:34] <ZubairLK> its v.difficult
  • [19:09:48] <ZubairLK> can you at least tell me the names of various tools i should look into
  • [19:09:51] <ZubairLK> please,
  • [19:10:02] <ZubairLK> like. bitbake.
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  • [19:10:30] <ZubairLK> anything else
  • [19:10:32] <ZubairLK> ?
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  • [19:11:16] <Ceriand|work> ZubairLK: what's your end goal?
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  • [19:12:40] <ZubairLK> working on my final year project
  • [19:13:11] <ZubairLK> I need to run a form application. access the dsp using c6run. an adc using spi.
  • [19:13:26] <ZubairLK> and output on a tv using s-video
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  • [19:13:39] <ZubairLK> right now i want a hellow world :p
  • [19:13:40] <ZubairLK> hello*
  • [19:14:42] <ZubairLK> I don't even know the name of the right ide ppl use
  • [19:14:53] <ZubairLK> have used eclipse before
  • [19:14:54] <Ceriand|work> generally, people don't
  • [19:14:57] <ZubairLK> but i don't think it's suited for this
  • [19:14:59] <kyv> ZubairLK: this turns un intresting results
  • [19:15:03] <kyv> http://www.google.com/search?q=beagleboard+hello+world
  • [19:15:23] <ZubairLK> *oops* kyv.
  • [19:15:30] <Ceriand|work> ZubairLK: personally, I just use vim and a terminal
  • [19:15:41] <ZubairLK> never occured to me to google hello world beagle. :$
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  • [19:15:58] <ZubairLK> vim is basic
  • [19:16:07] <Ceriand|work> not if you know how to use it right :)
  • [19:16:19] <ZubairLK> A good ide makes it easy when working on a project..
  • [19:16:30] <ZubairLK> i found sourcery g++ lite
  • [19:16:41] <ZubairLK> might give it a try.
  • [19:16:51] <av500> that is a toolchain
  • [19:16:54] <av500> not an IDE
  • [19:17:09] <av500> you see, in the linux world, all parts are separate
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  • [19:17:19] <ZubairLK> oops. the academic version
  • [19:17:24] <ZubairLK> it has eclipse i think
  • [19:18:01] <ZubairLK> damn windows programming makes you forget the real stuff.
  • [19:18:01] <ZubairLK> :/
  • [19:18:17] <av500> ZubairLK: yes, time to wake up
  • [19:18:19] <av500> :)
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  • [19:19:04] <ZubairLK> so. i should set up eclipse
  • [19:19:10] <ZubairLK> and download the beagles toolchain
  • [19:19:35] <ZubairLK> but i'm :s about where the os goes then.
  • [19:19:52] <av500> you dont need eclipse
  • [19:19:59] <av500> use any editor you like
  • [19:20:42] <ZubairLK> I should do a little more homework instead of bugging you guys.
  • [19:20:53] <ZubairLK> *Sorry*
  • [19:20:57] <av500> np
  • [19:21:00] <Ceriand|work> ZubairLK: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners is a good starting point
  • [19:21:55] <ZubairLK> ty
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  • [19:26:30] <Ceriand|work> ZubairLK: and for writing linux drivers, http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/ is a good resource. it's a little old so some of the info may not apply any longer
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  • [19:29:33] <_koen_> yay
  • [19:29:53] <_koen_> I can control an LED over CAN on the crane
  • [19:33:57] <ZubairLK> Thanks Ceriand. I don't plan on writing any drivers. But i'll skim through the doc as it increases understanding on how to use drivers as well.
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  • [19:43:31] <lwithers> _koen_: out of interest, which CAN interface chip did you use? and are you using the CAN networking support in the kernel or doing everything from userspace?
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  • [19:49:17] <aholler> socketcan is for usage from the userspace
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  • [19:52:54] <aholler> (as every driver) ;)
  • [19:56:12] <lwithers> I mean are you using CONFIG_CAN or not?
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  • [20:12:20] <aholler> I don't think he's doing that without using a can-driver.
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  • [20:22:06] <aholler> lwithers: can isn't that simple to do such without any driver
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  • [21:02:30] <ericb2> sakoman: ping ?
  • [21:02:43] <sakoman> ericb2: pong
  • [21:02:54] <ericb2> sakoman: hrllo. the new build is really faster than the previous one
  • [21:03:02] <ericb2> sakoman: I'll upload it in 5 minutes
  • [21:03:18] <sakoman> great!
  • [21:03:31] <sakoman> main difference is the compiler options?
  • [21:03:40] <ericb2> sakoman: cold start : around 15 s , warm : 3 seconds
  • [21:03:47] <ericb2> sakoman: I forgot to enable gtk
  • [21:04:00] <sakoman> ah
  • [21:04:02] <ericb2> sakoman: so I'll redo a third build, and I'll see
  • [21:04:18] <ericb2> sakoman: imho, the compiler options are a good candidate
  • [21:04:31] <ericb2> sakoman: the first build was around 50 seconds
  • [21:04:36] <sakoman> well, each build seems to be going more smoothly than the llast!
  • [21:04:36] <ericb2> (cold start)
  • [21:04:45] <ericb2> sakoman: that's normal
  • [21:04:59] <ericb2> sakoman: and I'll add other optimizations soon
  • [21:05:52] <lwithers> aholler: sorry if I wasn't clear. What I meant was: is the CAN networking support in the kernel being used, or is the driver in userspace (e.g. using spidev)?
  • [21:06:46] <lwithers> the reason I ask is because I'm developing a project where CAN support is one of the goals; I think I'm going to use the kernel's CAN support but it would be nice to hear if somebody else was using it successfully
  • [21:07:22] * mru prefers bottles to cans
  • [21:07:36] <lwithers> I think it's the MCP2151 chip I've got on the board, which is hooked up via SPI. There's a kernel driver for it but another approach would be to use spidev to program and operate it entirely in userspace
  • [21:07:38] <aholler> as I said, I don't believe someone uses userspace foo. For that you should have all the can-stuff in userspace
  • [21:08:00] <aholler> that would be stupid.
  • [21:08:13] <lwithers> not at all; for simple uses it would be fine
  • [21:08:26] <lwithers> how do you think the majority of microcontrollers are hooked up to the CAN bus?
  • [21:08:32] <aholler> haha, can isn't simple
  • [21:08:51] <lwithers> it can be used in a simple manner (no pun intended!)
  • [21:08:52] <aholler> you don't want to do that all by yourself
  • [21:09:22] <ericb2> sakoman: and the new archive size is 91MB only (was 95 before)
  • [21:09:24] <lwithers> it's a couple of hundred lines of C and uses a few bytes of RAM??? I've seen it done on a PIC (same controller)
  • [21:09:38] <aholler> and the mcp251x is horrible
  • [21:09:55] <aholler> better use something else
  • [21:09:59] <lwithers> probably!
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  • [21:14:32] <lwithers> we looked at the SJA1000T as well but its power consumption was significantly higher
  • [21:14:39] <_koen_> lwithers: I used the ti_hecc one, builtin to the am3517
  • [21:14:53] <_koen_> lwithers: then I used candump and cansend to toggle the light
  • [21:15:05] <_koen_> so a bit of both kernel and userspace :)
  • [21:15:18] <_koen_> this is the first time I used CAN, so everything is pretty new
  • [21:15:22] <_koen_> (and google pretty useless)
  • [21:17:57] <lwithers> ah, sounds good, thanks for the info
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  • [21:19:54] <_koen_> the demo I'm working on will be shown at Embedded World in Nurnberg
  • [21:20:07] <DesktopMa> when is that?
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  • [21:20:26] <DesktopMa> for some reason I was in nurnberg that one week a year there's no conferences
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  • [21:20:50] <ericb2> sakoman http://ftp.educoo.org/home/OOo4Kids/Linux_ARM/OMAP3/en-US/15february/
  • [21:20:59] <_koen_> DesktopMa: march 1st by the looks of it
  • [21:21:01] <ericb2> sakoman: uploading, remains ~5 minutes
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  • [21:21:52] <ericb2> sakoman: I'll rebuild a new version, including gtk. apologies, I probably forgot to remove --disable-gtk
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  • [21:26:16] <sakoman> ericb2: will download when the upload completes :-)
  • [21:26:49] <ericb2> sakoman: upload completed : you can :)
  • [21:26:57] <sakoman> ok!
  • [21:27:30] <ericb2> sakoman: please be gentle. This is experimental :)
  • [21:27:53] <sakoman> don't worry, I can certainly relate to that!
  • [21:28:31] <aholler> koen: you will be there?
  • [21:28:54] <aholler> I'm thinking about travelling for one day to n??rnberg
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  • [21:30:55] <bioster> _koen_: just wanted to let you know, I talked to the beagle board tech support and we figured out that it was a faulty ground connection in the serial port
  • [21:31:24] <bioster> well really, the entire serial port was pretty iffy, but the big thing was the ground
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  • [21:32:25] <aholler> one out of three wrong.
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  • [21:40:06] <_koen_> aholler: looks I won't be there, but the rest of the team will be :)
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  • [21:44:45] <aholler> hmm, will there be crane-boards available? maybe I could have a use for one, at least for evaluation.
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  • [21:51:20] <_koen_1> I don't think there will be any boards for sale
  • [21:51:59] <_koen_1> this is the current setup: http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/5448960886/
  • [21:52:01] <aholler> i would take one with paying too.
  • [21:52:05] <aholler> ;)
  • [21:55:55] <aholler> could bring a qt-can-monitor with me ;)
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  • [21:57:21] <djlewis_> or a can opener
  • [21:57:42] <aholler> can is already open
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  • [21:58:42] <rcn-ee_at_work> aholler, one in stock at digikey, part: 296-27841-ND
  • [21:59:40] <aholler> na, I don't buy such myself.
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  • [22:07:40] * ericb2 bookmarked http://eagleboard.org/ ^^
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  • [22:08:27] <aholler> I'll use animalboard.org to keep an overview about the ti-community-boards
  • [22:09:02] <DesktopMa> lol
  • [22:09:07] * ericb2 learning english animal names ^^
  • [22:09:22] <jacekowski> zebra will be next
  • [22:10:54] <jacekowski> btw. i'm looking for development board that has CAN and RS485 and has them isolated
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  • [22:13:22] <aholler> rcn-ee_at_work: and it doesn't seem to be available here. I assume they have to check the export-stuff first.
  • [22:14:11] <aholler> Due to U.S. export controls, we are unable to add this item to your order.
  • [22:14:23] <mru> aholler: you're aware that page is in no way official?
  • [22:14:50] <aholler> mru: yes, but I like anyway.
  • [22:15:09] <aholler> waiting for the red hering
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  • [22:17:41] <aholler> if you don't me as visitor, just add advertising, buzz-words, frames and whatever else is needed loose the clean and simple style ;)
  • [22:17:47] <aholler> +want
  • [22:18:49] <aholler> advertising people could learn something from that side ;)
  • [22:19:04] <aholler> imho
  • [22:20:08] <rcn-ee_at_work> aholler, waiting on paperwork i guess. ;)
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  • [22:43:30] <mru> aholler: I like things clean and simple
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  • [22:45:28] <aholler> I'll too. things usually get complicate from alone. So imho KISS should be always the primary goal, imho.
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