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  • [01:11:53] <cap-n-crunch> so i am a total noob to all of this. just now have shown an interest in programming and building my own computers. i have no idea where to start any guidance from anyone?
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  • [01:12:50] <tpham> cap-n-crunch, its not easy, what's ur background?
  • [01:13:11] <cap-n-crunch> dont really have one.
  • [01:13:35] <tpham> dont try to build one, just be really good using it first
  • [01:13:43] <cap-n-crunch> okay.
  • [01:13:46] <cap-n-crunch> got it
  • [01:15:30] <cap-n-crunch> any site or any other materials i can go to for more info. where can i learn the basics?
  • [01:15:34] <cap-n-crunch> i know.
  • [01:15:46] <cap-n-crunch> you guys dont want to deal with a noob
  • [01:16:18] <tpham> i'd recommend learning the basic of operation systems
  • [01:16:26] <cap-n-crunch> okay. i will do taht
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  • [01:16:32] <cap-n-crunch> *that
  • [01:16:33] <tpham> pickup a book on it
  • [01:16:49] <cap-n-crunch> thank you.
  • [01:16:57] <mru> start by learning about transistors, then move up to logic gates, then to more complex digital designs, eventually reaching the CPU :)
  • [01:17:30] <tpham> mru, dont scare cap-n-crunch
  • [01:17:37] <cap-n-crunch> haha
  • [01:17:40] <cap-n-crunch> funny
  • [01:18:11] <cap-n-crunch> i just needed to know where to start that seems like a good place to start
  • [01:18:20] <mru> the order you learn things doesn't really matter that much, but I do recommend at least peeking at the lower levels
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  • [01:18:34] <mru> even a basic understanding of what's really going on inside the machine helps greatly
  • [01:18:56] <cap-n-crunch> uh huh. okay. i will do that.
  • [01:19:11] <mru> but start with something you feel comfortable with
  • [01:19:20] <mru> you're obviously using a computer now
  • [01:19:35] <cap-n-crunch> i have used computers for a while but i have never stopped to think about what actually goes on inside.
  • [01:19:47] <cap-n-crunch> and i did find this site
  • [01:19:55] <cap-n-crunch> which seems to be pretty advanced
  • [01:20:30] <cap-n-crunch> at least to me
  • [01:21:33] <tpham> cap-n-crunch, its a little bit hard or boring to learn if it is not work related
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  • [01:21:44] <mru> hmm?
  • [01:21:47] <tpham> but you can read about it and understand it, dont need to know the details
  • [01:21:48] <cap-n-crunch> alright well thank you all for the advice.
  • [01:22:19] <cap-n-crunch> nah if i get it into my mind that i am interested in a subject then i will persue it until i learn all i can about it
  • [01:22:20] <mru> work is being paid to have fun, no?
  • [01:22:39] <cap-n-crunch> haha. i wish that were the true definition of work
  • [01:23:15] <tpham> work=that's what i do on my fulltime job. dont know about FUN!
  • [01:24:08] <mru> my job is playing with beagles
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  • [01:24:19] <mru> and pandas etc
  • [01:24:23] <cap-n-crunch> ah. that sounds like fun
  • [01:24:38] <mru> first you gotta learn to stroke them just the right way
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  • [01:25:37] <tpham> mru, can i ask you a tech question.... cortexA8 is armV7, and so is cortexM3, are they cross platform, code on A8 can be executed on M3?
  • [01:26:00] <mru> a8 is armv7-a, m3 is armv7-m
  • [01:26:12] <mru> they are not instruction set compatible
  • [01:26:15] <tpham> ah hah
  • [01:26:36] <mru> most notably, the m3 (and all 7-m) is thumb2 only
  • [01:26:43] <tpham> that's why i thought theres only V7,
  • [01:26:55] <cap-n-crunch> riveting...
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  • [01:26:58] <mru> there are three kinds of v7
  • [01:27:03] <mru> A, R, and M
  • [01:27:16] <mru> I wonder whose idea that was...
  • [01:27:50] <tpham> yeah, i know about that, but when read about them, all of them are written as version 7 , not saying that its V7-A, R or M..
  • [01:28:13] <tpham> mru, i think that's just a coincidence
  • [01:28:18] <mru> I think not
  • [01:28:46] <tpham> Application, Realtime, and Microprocessing,,,, it is
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  • [01:29:26] <mru> I don't think those initials were chosen randomly
  • [01:29:36] <mru> and it's microcontroller
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  • [01:29:55] <tpham> mru, are you familiar w/ the kernel implimentation of the L3 interconnect?
  • [01:30:17] <mru> hmm?
  • [01:30:25] <mru> the L3 is mostly invisible
  • [01:30:58] <tpham> well, the kernel has to interface to it to communicate with other devices
  • [01:31:13] <tpham> that's my understanding from reading the omap datasheet
  • [01:31:27] <mru> it's all memory mapped
  • [01:31:33] <tpham> i could not find the soucecode/implementation anywhere in the kernel
  • [01:31:38] <mru> there is none
  • [01:31:44] <mru> as I said, L3 is invisible
  • [01:32:11] <mru> to communicate with other parts, you simply read/write special memory addresses
  • [01:32:21] <tpham> in the datasheet, they mention about error handling on the L3 bus, it had to be implemented somewhere
  • [01:32:25] <mru> the L3 is the bit of silicon that sends those reads and writes to the proper places
  • [01:32:47] <tpham> *in the kernel*
  • [01:32:51] <mru> yes, the L3 can raise an interrupt if it detects and error condition
  • [01:33:39] <mru> the kernel can then read the details of what happened from status registers at a special "memory" address
  • [01:34:40] <tpham> do you know the 12 timers on the omap 3730, are they used in the linux kernel or exposed to userspace?
  • [01:34:52] <mru> in the linux kernel, the code would be somewhere under arch/arm/mach-omap2 most likely
  • [01:35:14] <mru> some of the timers are used by the kernel for various purposes
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  • [01:36:12] <cap-n-crunch> sorry to interrupt guys but what operating system should i learn about first?
  • [01:36:24] <mru> cap-n-crunch: what are you running now?
  • [01:36:32] <tpham> cap-n-crunch, none, read about the theory of operating system
  • [01:37:10] <cap-n-crunch> alright. gotcha. theories and basics
  • [01:37:14] <cap-n-crunch> sticking to em
  • [01:37:59] <mru> I would suggest installing some linux on a computer and get a book about that type of operating systems
  • [01:37:59] <tpham> mru, since you worked w/ beagle, what's the fastest known boottime on the new beagle board?
  • [01:38:12] <mru> define boot
  • [01:38:13] <cap-n-crunch> right now. im on a pc that i bought a year ago
  • [01:38:22] <cap-n-crunch> i have not worked with beagle
  • [01:38:31] <cap-n-crunch> im a total noob
  • [01:38:32] <tpham> power on to kernel kexec
  • [01:38:47] <cap-n-crunch> sorry
  • [01:38:55] <mru> to _start_ of kernel?
  • [01:39:02] <mru> a second perhaps
  • [01:39:19] <tpham> well, to start of /sbin/init
  • [01:39:33] <mru> ok, another second or two
  • [01:40:14] <tpham> that's pretty impressive
  • [01:40:53] <tpham> i am still debating on using M3 with rtos , or A8 with linux
  • [01:41:05] <tpham> for a soft real time application
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  • [01:41:26] <mru> what constraints do you have?
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  • [01:42:36] <tpham> 16ms respond time over tcpip, cost does not really matter,
  • [01:43:10] <mru> how do you measure that?
  • [01:43:25] <tpham> the only down side is that we have an existing user application on linux running under x86
  • [01:43:42] <tpham> porting it to A8 is best, because we can just cross compile the app
  • [01:44:18] <tpham> but getting to M3 is better, because we get better real-time and lower cost and easier board design
  • [01:45:01] <tpham> the disavtage on M3 is rewritting application on RTos
  • [01:45:11] <mru> 16ms response time under linux depends on what the reponse involves
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  • [01:45:27] <mru> and what else the system is doing
  • [01:46:07] <tpham> that's all, because it would communicate with a microtroller which does all the automation I/os
  • [01:46:47] <mru> the thing about linux is that nothing is ever guaranteed
  • [01:47:09] <tpham> currently microcontroller interfaces w/ x86 PC via usb using cdc_acm driver, but we can easily interface with MPU via spi or so
  • [01:48:01] <mru> if linux/x86 is good enough, the linux/arm will probably work too
  • [01:48:38] <tpham> i thought so too, going with M3 would lengthen our development time by 2-3 times
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  • [01:49:54] <tpham> i think i'll start out with linux/arm for now,,,,
  • [01:52:25] <cap-n-crunch> thanks for all the info. will check in when i know a lot more than i do now.
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  • [02:00:30] <Crofton|work> He makes me want to use off color language in email
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  • [02:00:49] <mru> ds5?
  • [02:01:45] <Crofton|work> I have mentally kill filed him
  • [02:01:56] <Crofton|work> after his incessant spamming
  • [02:02:05] <Crofton|work> now he seems to want to start flame wars
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  • [08:42:20] <josch> hi, i own a always innovating touchbook which basically contains a beagleboard inside. it comes with 18000 mah of battery and with all periphery switched off will last for 11h - is this realistic given the power consumption of a normal beagleboard?
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  • [08:43:29] <aholler_> if you own that and it does that, I think it is realisitc ;)
  • [08:44:45] <_av500_> maybe he owns a fast going watch too?
  • [08:46:38] <_av500_> josch: what is the battery voltage?
  • [08:46:48] <_av500_> coz just the mAh is meaningless
  • [08:47:12] <_av500_> Wh is what counts
  • [08:49:23] <whatnick> if it is lion and beagle runs at 3.3 then I say they have 3.7V cell
  • [08:49:34] <whatnick> *lipo
  • [08:56:02] <josch> it is lipo, yes
  • [08:56:29] <josch> so 3.7V
  • [08:56:55] <whatnick> the beagle draws 2W or so
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  • [08:57:36] <josch> which means around 67Wh
  • [08:57:58] <josch> shouldnt the battery then last much longer?
  • [08:58:28] <whatnick> but the batteries are also driving things like the display and input devices
  • [08:58:35] <josch> switched them off
  • [08:58:41] <josch> disconnected them from the board
  • [08:58:50] <dm8tbr> measure the current
  • [08:59:11] <whatnick> yep measure the current
  • [08:59:55] <josch> hrm.. but in the end even though they say it's just a beagleboard it seems to draw more than 2 Watts, right?
  • [09:00:15] * whatnick looks for reference
  • [09:00:32] <dm8tbr> they have an IRC channel I hear, you could just go and ask them
  • [09:01:08] <josch> i'm there for two years
  • [09:01:13] <josch> nobody from AI is there ;)
  • [09:01:53] <josch> i just thought maybe there is something obvious that i plainly forgot about doing
  • [09:01:58] <josch> it's the first OMAP3 i have
  • [09:02:18] <josch> so maybe there is stuff like changing the cpu freq or something i could do to make it run longer
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  • [09:13:27] <aholler_> the omap itself doesn't draw much power.
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  • [09:14:50] <aholler_> not even 2w
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  • [09:16:58] <_av500_> the limiting factor is the display
  • [09:24:41] <josch> which is off :)
  • [09:24:54] <josch> but yeah i know
  • [09:25:18] <josch> i tested with my dell laptop: display on: 2:45, display off: 5:30 :)
  • [09:27:02] <josch> then if the omap doesnt draw much power - can i switch off parts? like the dsp or the powervr? or is there an automatism that only switches those on when needed?
  • [09:27:09] <_av500_> sure
  • [09:27:25] <_av500_> with display off, e.g. playing mp3 it should reach days
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  • [09:28:35] <josch> hrm.. yeah and i wonder what else could draw so much power that this ~67Wh battery is depleted in 11h
  • [09:29:56] <dm8tbr> start by measuring the current
  • [09:30:09] <josch> from the battery?
  • [09:30:58] <dm8tbr> yes
  • [09:31:02] <josch> okay
  • [09:31:23] <josch> so that i can see how many watt it draws?
  • [09:32:02] <dm8tbr> for that you'll also need to measure the voltage at that point in time
  • [09:32:59] <josch> sure
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  • [09:40:18] <aholler> wifi and bt are connected by usb, maybe they don't get disabled correctly
  • [09:40:59] <ericb2> morning good people
  • [09:41:04] <aholler> and the kernel version and configuration is important too.
  • [09:41:06] <ericb2> sakoman: ping ?
  • [09:41:40] <josch> aholler: unplugged them :)
  • [09:41:45] <_av500_> aholler: josch: the tb is based to closely on the BB to be very power efficient
  • [09:42:02] <josch> _av500_: too closely?
  • [09:42:14] <_av500_> josch: the BB is not designed for minimal power
  • [09:42:16] <josch> aholler: what can i check in my kernel config?
  • [09:42:29] <josch> _av500_: i see
  • [09:44:08] <aholler> josch: depends on the kernel. there are many differences inbetween all the version out there
  • [09:45:02] <josch> hm
  • [09:46:18] <aholler> e.g. with 2.6.37 I don't see the normal cpu-freq stuff in /sys
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  • [10:06:55] <aholler> hmm, I assume TI isn't amused by Flop too.
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  • [16:23:21] <Flash_rah> hellO!
  • [16:23:42] <Flash_rah> Does anybody have pandaboard?
  • [16:23:58] <mnemoc> Flash_rah: try #pandaboard ;-)
  • [16:24:25] <Flash_rah> ooh )
  • [16:24:41] <Flash_rah> and another one question about Beagle :]]]
  • [16:24:52] <Flash_rah> is anybody use QNX as OS?
  • [16:32:17] <Flash_rah> *drink*!
  • [16:32:19] <Flash_rah> H
  • [16:32:20] <Flash_rah> E
  • [16:32:22] <Flash_rah> L
  • [16:32:23] <Flash_rah> L
  • [16:32:24] <Flash_rah> O!
  • [16:32:34] <Flash_rah> ===============================
  • [16:32:52] <Flash_rah> B E A G L E B O A R D - RULEZZZZZZzzZZZzz
  • [16:32:55] <Flash_rah> =============================
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  • [16:39:57] <mru> try being a bit less annoying
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  • [17:01:50] <mrcan> invalid conversion from ???__s32??? to ???const char*???
  • [17:01:58] <mrcan> how can i fix this error
  • [17:02:37] <mrcan> i2c_smbus_read_byte_data() function's return is __s32 type but what is it i dont know. how can i convert it to string
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  • [17:10:04] <ssvb> mrcan: buy and read some C programming book?
  • [17:11:25] <mrcan> i did but didnt see anything about __s32
  • [17:14:58] <Flash_rah> any byte of __s32 can be interpreted as char
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  • [17:15:33] <Flash_rah> & returns adress of variable
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  • [18:03:43] <Flash_rah> #pandaboard if much funny
  • [18:03:52] <Flash_rah> are u sleep here?! :[
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  • [20:31:36] <xerebz> how do i get texi2html on angstrom? can't find it on opkg
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  • [20:34:40] <ceka> hello
  • [20:34:59] <ceka> i installed opencv and g++
  • [20:35:21] <ceka> but when i compile my code i take error
  • [20:35:56] <ceka> the error output is here:http://www.sudrap.org/paste/text/8339/
  • [20:36:17] <ceka> and the source code is here : http://www.sudrap.org/paste/text/8340/
  • [20:36:31] <ceka> how can i fixt it
  • [20:36:33] <ceka> ?
  • [20:39:10] <aholler> be verbose and use the output from pkgconfig to see what is used
  • [20:39:15] <xerebz> i'm also trying to get opencv running but i'm trying to get it bitbaked using oe
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  • [20:39:38] <xerebz> since i saw the opencv-dsp-acceleration project
  • [20:40:20] <xerebz> but bitbake keeps having missing parts x.x
  • [20:40:55] <ceka> @xerebx, i'm newbie
  • [20:41:16] <xerebz> @ceka same lol
  • [20:41:18] <ceka> i have bb rev c3 and i installed angstrom 2011 demo image
  • [20:41:41] <xerebz> did you install opencv with opkg?
  • [20:41:53] <ceka> and install opencv and g++ package via repo
  • [20:41:57] <ceka> yes
  • [20:42:10] <xerebz> yeah i assumed it was going to be too inefficient on the bb
  • [20:42:25] <xerebz> i might just try running it since i can't get it working on the dsp
  • [20:42:43] <xerebz> can you compile a trivial piece of code?
  • [20:42:46] <xerebz> with g++?
  • [20:42:46] <aholler> ceka: paste the output from pkg-config --cflags opencv and pkg-config --libs opencv
  • [20:43:14] <ceka> @aholler, one min pls
  • [20:43:29] <ceka> i'm writing via my laptop
  • [20:43:39] <xerebz> aholler: does the opencv on opkg work well on the bb?
  • [20:43:50] <aholler> don't know
  • [20:43:55] <ceka> bb is closed.
  • [20:45:02] <xerebz> have you ever used a uvc webcam on the bb either?
  • [20:45:31] <xerebz> it doesn't seem to recognize it when i plug it in
  • [20:47:21] <ceka> @xerebx, i use a wabcam whicd uses z3xx module
  • [20:47:57] <xerebz> ceka: it's not usb?
  • [20:48:01] <xerebz> i mean uvc?
  • [20:48:46] <ceka> xerebx, it's usb
  • [20:49:15] <ceka> aholler, pkg-config --cflags opencv output: -I/usr/include/opencv
  • [20:50:05] <ceka> and pkg-config --libs opencv output: -lopencv_core -lopencv_imgproc -lopencv_highgui -lopencv_ml -lopencv_video -lopencv_features2d -lopencv_calib3d -lopencv_objdetect -lopencv_contrib -lopencv_legacy -lopencv_flann
  • [20:52:14] <aholler> now you have to check which library contains cv:SIFT.
  • [20:53:29] <ceka> hmm
  • [20:53:51] <aholler> e.g. through grep SIFT /usr/lib/opencv*
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  • [20:56:21] <aholler> grep SIFT /usr/lib/libopencv*
  • [20:56:44] <xerebz> wow you can grep thru files like that?
  • [20:56:45] <xerebz> cool
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  • [20:57:11] <aholler> grep doesn't care about the file-type.
  • [20:57:47] <aholler> it just don't print line-numbers for binary files
  • [20:59:30] <xerebz> i see
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  • [21:01:36] <aholler> ceka: maybe the order for the libs isn't correct or one lib is missing. Such happens
  • [21:02:21] <ceka> aholler, ok
  • [21:02:51] <aholler> ou could paste the output of grep at some pastepin if you don't see it yourself
  • [21:02:55] <ceka> i think i installed opencv-dev package
  • [21:03:04] <ceka> /usr/lib/opencv doesn't exist
  • [21:03:23] <aholler> use my second grep, I've forgotten the lib
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  • [21:04:33] <ceka> aholler: output is here http://pastebin.com/qseQC8nJ
  • [21:07:07] <ceka> and opkg list-installed *opencv* output is here
  • [21:07:08] <ceka> http://pastebin.com/YB6jDbHn
  • [21:07:30] <aholler> hmm, seems nothing contains that SIFT. I don't know opencv that much, maybe you have to define that yourself
  • [21:08:53] <aholler> or that lib is just missing in what angstrom installs.
  • [21:09:22] <ceka> but i compiled correctly it on my laptop
  • [21:09:45] <aholler> check the source where SIFT should be
  • [21:09:54] <ceka> i use pardus linux 2.6.37 kernel based
  • [21:10:01] <ceka> ok
  • [21:10:14] <aholler> or check where SIFT is on your laptop
  • [21:11:27] <aholler> but it looks like a problem of angstroms opencv if you you don't have to define that by yourself
  • [21:12:56] <ceka> hmm
  • [21:13:02] <ceka> thank you
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  • [21:28:18] <MikeBB> Hi all
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  • [21:32:13] <xerebz> i'm trying to use bitbake but i get Please install following missing utilities: texi2html,makeinfo,chrpath
  • [21:32:21] <xerebz> i can't find these on opkg
  • [21:32:30] <xerebz> where can i find these?
  • [21:32:51] <MikeBB> somebody try jogl on bb
  • [21:34:25] <MikeBB> xerebz you try to download anstrong with development on target ??
  • [21:35:09] <MikeBB> with narcissus rootfs generator probably can get a rootfs with all the tools
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  • [21:37:30] <MikeBB> today i kill one bb on voltage overload, is possible to repair this, somebody know procedure to do this ?
  • [21:40:31] <aholler> don't plenk. for repairing I don't think it's possible. Depends on what got smoked.
  • [21:41:27] <_av500_> aholler: the french plenk by design
  • [21:41:38] <aholler> really?
  • [21:41:42] <_av500_> its actually a half space
  • [21:41:43] <_av500_> yes
  • [21:41:54] <aholler> oh, sorry
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  • [21:42:23] <_av500_> well, of course only when writing in french
  • [21:42:34] <aholler> any news from the kernel-front?
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  • [21:45:00] <MikeBB> I think damaged is power regulator because D5 led are flashing
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  • [21:46:06] <aholler> the french are having a "half space" on their keyboard? never seen that ;)
  • [21:47:24] <mru> french has a half space before end of sentence punctuation
  • [21:47:37] <mru> they're weird like that
  • [21:48:15] <_av500_> aholler: one the kbd its a space and tex or word do the right thing
  • [21:48:29] <aholler> ah
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  • [21:49:51] <aholler> long time ago since I had french in school ;)
  • [21:50:01] * mru never had french in school
  • [21:50:13] <mru> I just make stuff up
  • [21:50:23] <mru> the french are so weird that half the time I'm right
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  • [21:51:04] <mru> did you know they tried to push their own character encoding?
  • [21:51:04] <aholler> hehe, the english and french, their love is always funny ;)
  • [21:51:12] <mru> 26 for half-space, 54 for full space
  • [21:51:34] <mru> aholler: I'm not actually english
  • [21:51:41] <mru> I just do a reasonable imitation
  • [21:52:06] <aholler> they wanted those codes in ascii?
  • [21:52:36] <aholler> haven't know this.
  • [21:53:02] <mru> 21:50 < mru> I just make stuff up
  • [21:53:03] <_av500_> aholler: hint: making things up
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  • [21:54:04] <aholler> I'm only half here, just found the gpio to enable power on the musb.
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  • [21:54:33] <_av500_> why dont you just ask me?
  • [21:54:47] <aholler> but something is still missing, lsusb doesn't seem to find my eth-device
  • [21:55:01] <aholler> _av500_: i should have know that this is there to ask
  • [21:55:42] <MikeBB> what says dmesg
  • [21:55:57] <aholler> I don't see dmesg, thats the problem
  • [21:56:09] <aholler> doing power-led-debugging
  • [21:56:31] <aholler> it's not a bb
  • [21:56:56] <_av500_> aholler: ok, first thing on monday
  • [21:57:53] <MikeBB> you can get access to /proc
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  • [21:58:25] <aholler> I currently only have the powerled to communicate with the device
  • [21:58:39] <aholler> => 3 states, on, off, heartbeat
  • [21:59:00] <MikeBB> hoho :)
  • [21:59:14] <aholler> yes, stupid
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  • [22:00:08] <aholler> ok, I now have the led of my eth-adapter as another output ;)
  • [22:00:10] <MikeBB> you have leds on ethernet
  • [22:00:23] <mru> each one has its own ipv6 address
  • [22:00:44] <aholler> ethernet doesn't work until musb works
  • [22:01:06] <aholler> I just see that I've turned on the power on the musb-port ;)
  • [22:02:41] <_av500_> aholler: btw, we are hiring :)
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  • [22:04:11] <aholler> hmm, I'm no student ;)
  • [22:04:28] <xerebz> MikeBB: i didn't understand what you meant
  • [22:04:43] <mru> if you take their offer, you'll be studying under the master _av500_
  • [22:05:13] <MikeBB> xerebz: you like to develop on target bb ??
  • [22:05:33] <xerebz> yes
  • [22:05:49] <xerebz> angstrom on beagleboard
  • [22:06:25] <_av500_> aholler: why student?
  • [22:06:45] <MikeBB> check this http://narcissus.angstrom-distribution.org/ and select all development on target
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  • [22:07:46] <MikeBB> check native on target sdk, etc.....
  • [22:08:38] <aholler> _av500_: last time you've said you need a student.
  • [22:09:10] <_av500_> we look for both, interns and a real hire
  • [22:09:34] <_av500_> we offer free workplace irc
  • [22:09:45] <xerebz> and under the dropbox sdk type?
  • [22:09:45] <aholler> anyway, don't know if I'm available. I'll have a midlife crisis. ;)
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  • [22:10:19] <_av500_> aholler: you have a crisis planned?
  • [22:10:48] <aholler> not planned. It just comed by
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  • [22:11:29] <aholler> you know, thinking about rearing sheeps and so on
  • [22:11:48] <_av500_> aholler: you can also visit without being made drunk and sign
  • [22:11:56] <MikeBB> + Development packages: Native (on-target) SDK, Native (on-target) u-boot mkimage, also if you like to use Qt then Native (on-target) Qt Embedded SDK and Native (on-target) Qt X11 SDK Development
  • [22:12:03] <aholler> I don't drink.
  • [22:12:21] <_av500_> ah ok, not the job for you then :)
  • [22:12:30] <aholler> just for amusement, not regulary.
  • [22:12:42] <_av500_> but you can rear sheep in odenwald nicely
  • [22:13:42] <aholler> and if i drink, I'm usually on of the last ones going down. so don't try it ;)
  • [22:14:15] <_av500_> ah, you are qualified then
  • [22:14:20] <mru> a challenge!
  • [22:14:33] <_av500_> mru: when can you be here?
  • [22:14:47] <mru> purpose and duration?
  • [22:14:53] <_av500_> see above :)
  • [22:15:08] <mru> drink aholler under the table, that can be arranged...
  • [22:15:13] <aholler> mru can't be a challeng, he only has two hours to get drunk
  • [22:15:16] <mru> there's a flight tomorrow...
  • [22:15:36] <aholler> or has this changed?
  • [22:15:42] <_av500_> yep
  • [22:15:43] <mru> two hours?
  • [22:15:51] <_av500_> pubs closing...
  • [22:15:55] <mru> oh that
  • [22:16:09] <mru> the regular closes at 1am
  • [22:16:18] <aholler> oh, it has changed
  • [22:16:27] <mru> then other places are open until 3 or so
  • [22:16:35] <mru> some even longer
  • [22:16:44] <_av500_> aholler: pubs with "late" licenses existed back then too
  • [22:16:47] <mru> and after that one can always crash a house party
  • [22:17:24] <aholler> when I've stayed in chichester I had to visit a disco.
  • [22:17:30] <xerebz> MikeBB: this will make a brand new image.. can i just install the missing libraries in my existing image?
  • [22:17:47] <aholler> ok, it's long time ago. ;)
  • [22:21:52] <MikeBB> xerebz yes you can untar the rootfs and copy libraries or something you need on your sd....
  • [22:24:57] <xerebz> MikeBB: cool i'll try that now
  • [22:27:19] <MikeBB> xerebz: you have changed resolv.conf on your bb system ?
  • [22:27:59] <MikeBB> to me some repository have failed after change nameservers and can't find some packages
  • [22:28:13] <aholler> btw, I assume some fins will be soon available
  • [22:28:15] <xerebz> thing is makeinfo isn't in opkg
  • [22:28:20] <xerebz> i haven't messed with resolv.conf
  • [22:29:15] <MikeBB> ok
  • [22:29:39] <xerebz> where would this package be in the new image btw?
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  • [22:31:24] <MikeBB> I think the best way can be to test with other sd put this rootfs and check with opkg files, installed, etc....
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  • [22:46:33] <xerebz> is there a way to find out what package a program is in? for example svn is in the opkg package subversion
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  • [22:57:59] <aholler> xerebz: do have done a opkg install task-native-sdk?
  • [22:59:21] <xerebz> aholler: i have
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  • [23:01:58] <aholler> xerebz: don't know what your are trying to compile, maybe ./configure --help offers something to disable generation of docs.
  • [23:02:37] <xerebz> i've been trying to complete http://code.google.com/p/opencv-dsp-acceleration/wiki/Instruction_For_Building_Examples
  • [23:02:46] <aholler> so you won't all the stuff needed to generate foo.html from bar.tex or whatever
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  • [23:02:57] <aholler> s/won't/won't need/
  • [23:03:12] <xerebz> i'm trying to compile using bitbake
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  • [23:03:31] <xerebz> anything that i try to compile with bitbake will give me that error
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