• [00:00:42] <rcn-ee> aholler, i've had the best luck with fat16 and boot flag on..
  • [00:01:09] <aholler> the flag is needed too. thats written in the trm
  • [00:01:30] <rcn-ee> yeah, found that out with my xm, just seemed to work fine with the nand x-loaders..
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  • [00:02:08] <aholler> but didn't found anything about that fat32 problem. that must be a problem of the romcode
  • [00:03:21] <rcn-ee> actually, there's a fat32 fix in the new x-loader repo: http://gitorious.org/x-loader/x-loader/commit/16d9259cc980c7f3a3778431349dcbbf97a7ec82
  • [00:04:04] <aholler> yes, but that doesn't help when pressing the user button to load the xloader from mmc ;)
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  • [00:10:30] <fifo> I'll try fat16
  • [00:10:53] <fifo> i was trying to load images built using OpenEmbedded, but now i'm trying using the codesourcery tools available through TI
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  • [00:11:17] <fifo> if i get the same problem i'm willing to declare it an MMC/filesystem problem and not openembedded's fault
  • [00:12:35] <mrj10> koen: is it possible to build the TI packages in OpenEmbedded for beagleboard under angstrom 2010? more specifically, under binutils > 2.18
  • [00:12:44] <aholler> you don't need images, mlo should be enough. at least the one for beagle prints some output on the serial
  • [00:12:45] <mrj10> ti-c6accel, ti-xdctools, ti-codec-engine, and so on
  • [00:14:20] <mrj10> i've asked and poked around a bit in oe master and #OpenEmbedded, and the consensus is that there's no known way to get everything to build. there's a linker script patch that fixes codec-engine, but appears to bork c6accel
  • [00:18:07] <aholler> fifo: and don't use gcc 4.5.1 to build xloader
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  • [00:30:22] <quadmasta> ffffuuuuuu
  • [00:30:37] <quadmasta> I did opkg update/upgrade and now x won't boot
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  • [00:35:08] <quadmasta> can I copy the files onto a formatted SD card in macOS or do I need to bootstrap a ubuntu VM?
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  • [00:41:35] <quadmasta> bueller?
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  • [00:54:15] <rellin> I'm trying to get my USB ports working and I installed the EHCI HCD support option but /dev/usb still doesnt show up. Any ideas?
  • [00:54:24] <rellin> am I going to need to mknod my usb?
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  • [01:06:52] <otubo> I followed every beginners guide I found on Google and I still can't see my beagleboard on my minicom.
  • [01:07:31] <otubo> I configured as /dev/ttyUSB0 and 115200 8N1 and I am using a serial-USB cable adapter
  • [01:07:48] <rellin> did you try
  • [01:07:51] <rellin> ttyUSB2?
  • [01:07:54] <quadmasta> otubo: no legacy devices?
  • [01:07:58] <rellin> any of the other ttyUSBs?
  • [01:08:08] <kyv> or ls /dev/tty* to see whats in there
  • [01:08:35] <otubo> rellin, quadmasta this is my dmesg when I plug my USB-serial cable - http://pastebin.com/j20aEWfm
  • [01:09:20] <otubo> kyv, should I try other port than USB0? ^
  • [01:09:43] <otubo> quadmasta, what do you mean by legacy devices?
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  • [01:09:54] <quadmasta> a serial port
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  • [01:10:57] <otubo> quadmasta, no, my notebook doesn't have a serial port, just USBs
  • [01:11:06] <kyv> otubo: on my machine there is only one ttyUSB and it is created when i plug in the usb-serial
  • [01:11:30] <kyv> so it easy to know which one
  • [01:11:36] <kyv> by watching dmesg
  • [01:11:40] <kyv> or peeking in /dev
  • [01:13:07] <otubo> kyv, I found this article talking about the wrong kernel module being used http://flo.mur.at/hardware/prap/beagle-board-verification
  • [01:13:39] <otubo> I changed to ch341 (instead of pl2303) but I couldn't even had the ttyUSB0 created
  • [01:13:48] <otubo> So keeping my pl2303 :)
  • [01:13:55] <kyv> ah!
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  • [01:14:12] <quadmasta> damnit, I can't install ubuntu in parallels
  • [01:14:34] <otubo> kyv, some idea on your mind?
  • [01:14:57] <thurbad> virtualbox runs on mac and will install ubuntu.. and is free for non-commercial stuff
  • [01:15:10] <kyv> nome
  • [01:15:14] * kyv is out of ideas
  • [01:15:24] <quadmasta> I've done it before, I may be low on disk space
  • [01:15:29] <quadmasta> how do you check that in macos?
  • [01:16:15] <thurbad> df -h should work on a mac in the terminal
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  • [01:17:12] <quadmasta> nope, not a space issue 70gb free
  • [01:18:41] <quadmasta> downloading virtualbox
  • [01:21:49] <quadmasta> how the hell do you tell it to boot from an iso?
  • [01:23:12] <otubo> kyv, would you help me reviewing the steps? First I configured the minicom like this http://pastebin.com/6aiAMaQq, then I plug the usb-serial cord and then I turn the board on.
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  • [01:24:13] <otubo> I just can't understand what I am possibly doing wrong
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  • [01:27:03] <quadmasta> what the hell?!?!?!? it's doing the same thing in virtualbox that it was in parallels
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  • [01:27:20] <kyv> otubo: i do this
  • [01:27:36] <kyv> screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200
  • [01:27:50] <kyv> but your minicom settings look fine to me
  • [01:28:19] <kyv> confirm youve got the correct device
  • [01:28:36] <kyv> and that you have permissino to read the device
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  • [01:29:06] <kyv> you may need to chmod chown or use sudo with your minicom command
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  • [01:38:45] <prpplague> ho ho ho, merry freakin tuesday
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  • [01:44:21] <quadmasta> yo
  • [01:44:50] <prpplague> ho ho and a bottle of rum
  • [01:46:51] <otubo> kyv, do you use Ubuntu?
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  • [01:49:57] <thurbad> otubo, are you on an xM or standard beagle?
  • [01:50:15] <otubo> thurbad, I am on a rev c4
  • [01:50:25] <quadmasta> can someone help with the "mkcard.txt" found here: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/mkcard.txt
  • [01:50:54] <thurbad> are you sure tht the serial header is wired properly, the standard beagle uses a nonstandard pinout on the serial header
  • [01:51:27] <quadmasta> I see the $1 further down the script but I see it printing the variable it stores to 1 and 2 so do I do something like /dev/usb and it'll use 1 and 2?
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  • [01:53:04] <thurbad> quadmasta, it makes two partitions
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  • [01:53:24] <kyv> otubo: i use debian
  • [01:53:26] <otubo> thurbad, I bought the board with the acrylic box mounted. You're saying that SpecialComputing screwed on mounting it?
  • [01:53:39] <thurbad> you specifiy something like /dev/sdg and it creates partitions /dev/sdg1 and /dev/sdg2
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  • [01:54:10] <thurbad> otubo, if you bought it from them it's probably wired correctly
  • [01:54:12] <quadmasta> gotcha
  • [01:54:49] <quadmasta> so I just chmod the file 777 and then do something like mkcard.txt /dev/sda
  • [01:55:55] <thurbad> quadmasta, or sudo sh mkcard.txt /dev/sdX
  • [01:56:08] <thurbad> where X is the correct letter
  • [01:56:21] <thurbad> very likely a is your primary hard drive
  • [01:57:55] <thurbad> otubo, do you have a null serial cable between the mounted serial port and the usb to serial converter?
  • [01:58:18] <otubo> thurbad, yes
  • [01:58:43] <thurbad> and what does minicom do? anything?
  • [01:59:44] <prpplague> if anyone has feedback on rev2 of the trainer board, please post at http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoard_Trainer
  • [02:00:20] <otubo> thurbad, it stops on "Press CTRL-A Z for help on special keys", doesn't show the terminal
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  • [02:01:09] <thurbad> do you start it with minicom -s
  • [02:01:59] <quadmasta> what the crap
  • [02:02:50] <quadmasta> how do you figure out what's plugged in USB in linux?
  • [02:03:16] <thurbad> quadmasta, lsusb will give some indication
  • [02:03:31] <quadmasta> damn virtualbox
  • [02:03:31] <quadmasta> !
  • [02:03:57] <buZz> quadmasta: you must be every helpdesk's dream
  • [02:04:10] <quadmasta> buZz: hahaha
  • [02:04:21] <buZz> ;)
  • [02:04:22] <quadmasta> this worked fine in parallels
  • [02:04:32] <quadmasta> I just don't know how to use virtualbox
  • [02:04:41] <buZz> virtualbox doesnt do proper usb
  • [02:04:45] <buZz> afaik
  • [02:04:55] <buZz> vmware does it a lot better
  • [02:04:59] <quadmasta> crap
  • [02:06:55] <quadmasta> going to try running it live in parallels
  • [02:07:07] <thurbad> otubo, I get the behaviour you're describing if I do: sudo minicom
  • [02:07:24] <thurbad> minicom doesn't require sudo if you're using the right port though
  • [02:07:48] <quadmasta> so I should nuke the sd card before I use mkcard?
  • [02:08:00] <quadmasta> I tried running angstrom before but it got screwed up
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  • [02:10:05] <otubo> thurbad, I think they mounted the serial cable wrong. I'll probably have to re-weld the wires to make it work
  • [02:10:13] <otubo> thurbad, but thanks anyway :)
  • [02:16:43] <quadmasta> re-weld?
  • [02:16:47] <quadmasta> heh
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  • [02:20:14] <aholler> otubo: try exchanging 2 and 3
  • [02:22:54] <otubo> quadmasta, isn't that the correct word in english? :)
  • [02:23:04] <quadmasta> solder
  • [02:25:02] <otubo> quadmasta, greeeat :) google translate fraking with me
  • [02:25:12] <quadmasta> what's your native language?
  • [02:25:19] <otubo> quadmasta, pt_BR
  • [02:25:23] <otubo> I am from Brazil
  • [02:25:52] <quadmasta> otubo: I'm a software developer who's been through internationalization a few times, I'm well aware of locales :)
  • [02:26:08] <otubo> :)
  • [02:26:58] <quadmasta> there's a bunch of Brasilians living in Atlanta, GA
  • [02:27:25] <buZz> i18n ?
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  • [02:27:40] <quadmasta> yeah, i18n :)
  • [02:27:54] <quadmasta> spring resource bundles, etc
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  • [04:58:33] <Alban_> Hello?
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  • [04:58:56] <Alban_> Anyone here?
  • [04:59:12] <prpplague> Alban_: we left about an hour ago
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  • [05:00:28] <Alban_> Rats! I'm trying to get into robotics and I was wondering how well does the beagleboard work in that regards
  • [05:01:31] <prpplague> Alban_: there are a number of robotics projects that use beagle, however one of the primary issues is that all the I/O for the beagle is at +1.8V which creates some techincally issues for most robotics that need +5v or higher for motors
  • [05:03:21] <Alban_> Ahh, I apologize for the late response. That might be an issue
  • [05:04:40] <Alban_> Are there any dedicated beagle-bot communites? How have they gotten around this issue.
  • [05:04:52] <prpplague> Alban_: check out the elinux.org wiki, there are a number of projects listed there
  • [05:05:02] <prpplague> Alban_: level shifters
  • [05:06:24] <Alban_> I apologize for sounding like a complete fool, I'm just new to all this and I want to at least put my foot in the door
  • [05:06:32] <Alban_> Thank you prpplague, I appreciate your help
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  • [05:07:42] <prpplague> Alban_: np
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  • [05:16:37] <xxiao> where to get wlan/bluetooth module for BBxM?
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  • [05:18:19] <Alban_> exit(0)
  • [05:18:31] <Russ> Alban_, try:
  • [05:18:39] <Russ> /exit(0)
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  • [05:35:43] <kyv> oops
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  • [06:19:25] <kiwi_> hellloo!
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  • [06:24:10] <kiwi_> does anyone know if we could use the beagleboard as BT client, meaning attach a BT peripheral to so that my laptop would detect the beagleboard as a BT device?
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  • [06:25:45] <dm8tbr> kiwi_: sure, why not
  • [06:30:22] <kiwi_> dm8tbr: which bt peripheral do we have to get? most of the ones we find are ones that enable BT, not make it a BT host ...
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  • [06:33:22] <_av500_> bt has no host
  • [06:33:46] <dm8tbr> exactly
  • [06:34:15] <dm8tbr> it's all in the Bluez (and rfcomm, and ...)
  • [06:37:48] <kiwi_> ic, hrm, can you suggest a BT peripheral we should get?
  • [06:38:37] <dm8tbr> a well working BT stick?
  • [06:40:56] <kiwi_> what we want to do is connect our usb input device, like a mouse, and get it to be a BT device instead, so we figure we can connect it to the usb port of the beagleboard and have the laptop see the beagleboard as a BT device
  • [06:41:06] <kiwi_> not sure if I'm making sense or not
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  • [06:43:44] <_av500_> well, buy a bt mouse directly
  • [06:49:03] <dm8tbr> kiwi_: sure, you may need to write the glue between the mouse output and the bt-stack though.
  • [06:49:31] <dm8tbr> but it shouldn't be hard to make the bt stack advertize the device as a BT-HID device
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  • [06:51:15] <kiwi_> cool, thanks! do you have link to the BT peripheral? all we find are these: http://www.amazon.com/Kensington-K33902US-Bluetooth-Micro-Adapter/dp/B000YA1XU2
  • [06:51:26] <kiwi_> whcih does the opposite of what we want to do right?
  • [06:53:04] <_av500_> no
  • [06:54:48] <_av500_> its a bt device, it can do what you program it to do
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  • [07:02:21] <spikebike> does anyone know if that device has a good linux driver? Last time I tried this I ended up with one that many folks reported issues with. It would initialize and work for a bit then require a reboot
  • [07:02:28] <spikebike> (that bt device just linked)
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  • [07:05:17] <_av500_> there are a ton of bt dongles, but only a few chipsets
  • [07:05:27] <_av500_> google should tell you which work ok with linux
  • [07:08:02] <spikebike> yes, but chipsets seem to change without notice
  • [07:08:20] <spikebike> so last time I bought it was good, then switched and was evil
  • [07:08:35] <spikebike> of course 3 months after I got it there was a zillino forum posts about it's evilness
  • [07:09:15] <_av500_> well, they cost like $5 too, so the damage is not so bad ...
  • [07:09:55] <spikebike> ya, just trying to avoid the annoyance of round 2
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  • [10:39:14] <Krzysztof_> I bought crane board, and now I'm looking for gel files for this board. Where can I download it?
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  • [11:21:58] <hitlin37> i'm getting this:libusb:error [op_init] could not find usbfs,when trying libusb on android
  • [11:22:53] <hitlin37> i did this in init.rc,mount usbfs none /proc/bus/usb devmode=0666 in "on boot section"
  • [11:23:20] <av500> and, is it mounted?
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  • [11:26:46] <hitlin37> nopes...only input in /proc/bus
  • [11:28:12] <hitlin37> i mean,only one directory in /proc/bus input
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  • [14:35:39] <djlewis> in a little while it will be deep enough to make my snow angele....
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  • [14:40:54] <Naveen_> Hi
  • [14:40:56] <Naveen_> All
  • [14:41:16] <Naveen_> I have a Beagle Board XM
  • [14:41:28] <Naveen_> I am unable to save environment back into the image
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  • [14:41:57] <Naveen_> Has anyone tried envsave on beagle board
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  • [14:42:54] <aholler> xm has no nand
  • [14:44:24] <aholler> hmm, should'nt answer to questions from webchat-users
  • [14:44:56] <balestrino> :)
  • [14:46:17] <balestrino> i need to develop a "kiosk" app with BB, what is the best environment to start with?
  • [14:46:27] <av500> a comfy office
  • [14:46:37] <balestrino> =)
  • [14:46:40] <djlewis> a hot cup of coffee
  • [14:47:28] <aholler> have a look at one of those kiosk-distributions. I think they all are using firefox
  • [14:47:34] <djlewis> I like having a development computer with monitor, mouse and kybd as well
  • [14:48:01] <av500> aholler: ff is not what i would recommend on the BB...
  • [14:48:21] <djlewis> he didnt say it was fast ;)
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  • [14:50:23] <djlewis> arrgh! snowed in again.
  • [14:50:34] <balestrino> i need to get a programmable control panel with CAN bus and 10" display
  • [14:51:00] <aholler> thats not a kiosk
  • [14:51:14] <balestrino> right..
  • [14:52:06] <av500> this is a kiosk: http://www.flickr.com/photos/av500/5375127868/
  • [14:52:14] <av500> and going out of business ....
  • [14:52:57] <balestrino> GTK is a good starting point?
  • [14:53:06] <av500> balestrino: depends
  • [14:53:21] <aholler> if you ask me, never, it starts with g.
  • [14:54:07] <aholler> use what you know and are able to do.
  • [14:54:32] <djlewis> but GTK is easy to implement i Angstrom on BB. Lots of samples etc
  • [14:54:43] <balestrino> i know only some c++
  • [14:54:46] <djlewis> s/I/ini
  • [14:54:51] <djlewis> in
  • [14:54:53] <djlewis> arrgh
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  • [14:55:28] <djlewis> av500: is that your own local kiosk?
  • [14:55:43] <av500> no, it opened here 2mo ago
  • [14:55:48] <av500> and now its closing
  • [14:55:53] <av500> not surprised
  • [14:55:54] <djlewis> and going out so soon.. no.
  • [14:56:08] <balestrino> ok so.. Angstrom and GTK
  • [14:56:15] <djlewis> is a good start
  • [14:56:47] <balestrino> ok thank you
  • [14:56:55] <djlewis> if you can get your CAN of busses working with it
  • [14:57:57] * djlewis goes for another hot cup of coffee :)
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  • [15:12:34] <djlewis> av500: your video wall at Fosdem 2011 looked good :)
  • [15:12:43] <av500> djlewis: its the ti wall
  • [15:12:49] <av500> they made a professional one
  • [15:12:57] <djlewis> oh
  • [15:12:58] <ynezz> it's professional? :p
  • [15:13:14] <av500> what used to fit into one large suitcase now takes 5 huge shipping boyes
  • [15:13:16] <av500> boxes
  • [15:13:28] <djlewis> well, i'll stick with concept :)
  • [15:13:57] <av500> they had to reinforce the floor before we could put it there
  • [15:14:07] <djlewis> is that the one koen had
  • [15:14:29] <av500> ?
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  • [15:14:40] <djlewis> a while back it seems koen had one in a office
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  • [15:14:45] <av500> yes
  • [15:14:57] <av500> ti uk built it
  • [15:15:03] <av500> it travels to tradeshows and events
  • [15:16:01] <djlewis> so what became of the av500 , mru video wall? just spare parts now?
  • [15:16:56] <av500> djlewis: sits in my office
  • [15:17:11] <av500> its just 6 monitors and a piece of wood
  • [15:17:21] <av500> and cables and tie wrap
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  • [15:21:22] <djlewis> but its the original, it is part of our history :)
  • [15:22:15] <av500> sure, its still there
  • [15:22:26] <djlewis> with the TI one, I am let down they didnt go with the thin edge panels
  • [15:25:10] <djlewis> one could have it Beowolf'ing while in the corner ;)
  • [15:25:40] <av500> djlewis: they went with surplus ones they had
  • [15:25:43] <av500> just like me :)
  • [15:25:46] <av500> copycats
  • [15:26:06] <djlewis> and all their budget capability
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  • [15:37:32] <ericb2> just curious: is there a plan to provide BeagleBoard based on omap4 or even more recent ?
  • [15:38:29] <av500> ericb2: read the ML, it was just answered
  • [15:38:31] <av500> :)
  • [15:40:06] <ericb2> av500: apologies for the dumb question. I'll try to find this mailing list. It is on http://beagleboard.org ?
  • [15:40:45] <av500> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/beagleboard
  • [15:42:27] <ericb2> av500: thank you !
  • [15:42:37] <av500> np !
  • [15:42:53] <xxiao> is usb-bluetooth/usb-wifi the only way to get wifi/BT on BBxM?
  • [15:43:11] <av500> no
  • [15:43:14] <av500> sdio
  • [15:43:31] <av500> or spi
  • [15:44:07] <xxiao> thanks. is there a SDIO connector on BBxM? i did not find one yet
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  • [15:45:33] <av500> sd/mmc
  • [15:46:05] <xxiao> you mean the micro-sd slot?
  • [15:47:06] <ericb2> av500: FYI, I see no problem with ethernet since yesterday. even a 500MB filetransfer didn't kill it. the only think I took care, was to carefully connect the power. Maybe some power issue
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  • [16:31:21] <ericb2> av500: I was too fast : the ethernet is down, and nothing special in dmesg
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  • [16:34:57] <ericb2> av500: that's not the ethernet side. I got the problem
  • [16:35:06] <av500> ?
  • [16:35:12] <av500> pardon?
  • [16:35:46] <ericb2> av500: at home I'm using dedicated devices ( named "CPL" in french) using ac current
  • [16:36:03] <ericb2> av500: and power off/on it helped
  • [16:36:27] <av500> ericb2: you are doing evil things
  • [16:36:44] <ericb2> av500: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_line_communication
  • [16:36:47] <ericb2> av500: why :)
  • [16:36:55] <av500> ericb2: i know what cpl is :)
  • [16:37:05] <ericb2> av500: ah :-)
  • [16:37:26] <ericb2> av500: I was too lazy to use a true ethernet cable, and too lazy to search my USB dongle ^^
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  • [16:38:17] * ericb2 will try to retrieve the ma111 ... lost somewhere in the home
  • [16:39:37] <ericb2> av500: at least I progressed, and the "what" is identified
  • [16:39:46] <av500> ericb2: thats good
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  • [16:39:58] <av500> so please use a reliable ethernet connection and redo the test :)
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  • [16:43:32] <Oltsu> btw, the thing with the poky yesterday, it was just a misunderstanding, the other guy was talking about some other development platform
  • [16:44:07] <av500> there are so many...
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  • [17:05:44] <spow> is there any reason PLC should behave differently than regular ethernet ? I'm also using this home and did not have to install any drivers IIRC (just asking out of curiosity)
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  • [17:06:12] <aholler> reason = slower
  • [17:06:23] <av500> reason = its evil interference
  • [17:06:44] <spow> isn't it filtered ?
  • [17:06:56] <av500> lol
  • [17:07:30] <spow> and the theoretical throughput of PLC is that of regular ethernet
  • [17:07:44] <av500> spow: do you have shielded power cables in your home?
  • [17:07:55] <av500> I don't
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  • [17:08:16] <aholler> how fast is your regular ethernet?
  • [17:08:25] <spow> I don't know and I'm not gonna dismantle a wall to answer that ^^
  • [17:08:31] <aholler> s/fast/slow/
  • [17:08:42] <av500> spow: power cables are unshielded
  • [17:08:51] <av500> so you cannot filter anything
  • [17:08:59] <av500> the cable act as emiting antennas
  • [17:09:05] <spow> I get ~800K down
  • [17:09:17] <av500> from your dsl
  • [17:09:33] <spow> yep, far from the node :(
  • [17:09:42] <av500> nothing to do with ethernet speed
  • [17:10:06] <spow> oh read internet
  • [17:10:20] <spow> ethernet is 10/100 MBits right ?
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  • [17:11:31] <aholler> you should know as you've said plc is as fast as that
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  • [17:12:40] <spow> it's written on the box at least
  • [17:14:05] <spow> goes up to 200Mbit apparently
  • [17:14:16] <spow> at least the standard says so
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  • [18:26:37] <rellin> my USB ethernet port isn't showing up as an interface in ifconfig. Does anyone know how to add it?
  • [18:27:37] <rellin> I guess my real problem is that my USB port doesn't show up as a device, other than ub (usb block device).
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  • [18:31:27] <rellin> Do most people just use angstrom and not set up their own kernel/file system?
  • [18:32:33] <aholler> ifconfig -a
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  • [18:36:45] <koen> jkridner|work: http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/5431647600/in/photostream/
  • [18:36:57] <koen> jkridner|work: that should give you an impression of how busy it was :)
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  • [20:13:56] <conost> beagleboard related qemu question
  • [20:14:52] <conost> I am new to IRC and not sure if anyone can assist, but I am hoping someone can point me in the right direction.
  • [20:15:32] <conost> I am running the angstrom base-image in qemu for the beagle board and I do not have access to a keyboard or mouse when gdm is running.
  • [20:15:46] <conost> I can access the serial keyboard for the system console.
  • [20:16:31] <conost> But when I try to start a graphical login session in gpe-dm neither the keyboard or mouse work.
  • [20:17:01] <conost> I am wondering if I need to attach some sort of USB device for this to work.
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  • [20:19:09] <Russ> are you expecting the serial console to send characters to X?
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  • [20:21:03] <conost> I don't think that the serial console (tty2) would send characters to X.
  • [20:21:27] <conost> I guess my question is how do you interact with X when running in qemu.
  • [20:22:06] <Russ> I'm not sure, I vaguely remember guest drivers, but they shouldn't be necessary depending on what you have selected in qemu
  • [20:22:22] <Russ> I guess start with the mouse, what mouse device is qemu emulating for the guest?
  • [20:22:58] <conost> I am not sure, is there anyway to tell?
  • [20:23:15] <Russ> dunno, qemu settings?
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  • [20:23:28] <Russ> I'm guessing it'd either need to emulate a USB mouse or you'd need a guest driver
  • [20:24:28] <conost> Well, I have tried a number of different qemu options like -usb -usbdevice keyboard -usbdevice mouse and none of them seem to help.
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  • [20:24:44] <Russ> have you tried doing an lsusb in the guest?
  • [20:24:50] <conost> I have not looked at any guest drivers, but I will take a look.
  • [20:25:14] <Russ> well, if it's USB, you won't need any qemu guest drivers, although the guest mouse driver is usually an improvement
  • [20:25:16] <conost> I did lsusb in the guest and it just shows two usb hubs - one slow and one fast.
  • [20:25:31] <Russ> so there is some disconnect there
  • [20:25:42] <Russ> the hubs would be the root hubs, not actual hubs
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  • [20:26:10] <conost> I am getting the output now:
  • [20:27:54] <conost> root@beagleboard:~# lsusb
  • [20:28:03] <conost> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
  • [20:28:11] <conost> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
  • [20:28:54] <Russ> interesting, only 2.0
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  • [20:29:30] <Russ> what about ls -l /sys/bus/usb/devices
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  • [20:30:03] <conost> root@beagleboard:~# ls -l /sys/bus/usb/devices/
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  • [20:30:11] <conost> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jan 1 1970 1-0:1.0 -> ../../../devices/platform/musb_hdrc/usb1/1-0:1.0
  • [20:30:20] <conost> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jan 1 1970 2-0:1.0 -> ../../../devices/platform/ehci-omap.0/usb2/2-0:1.0
  • [20:30:27] <conost> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jan 1 1970 usb1 -> ../../../devices/platform/musb_hdrc/usb1
  • [20:30:34] <conost> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jan 1 1970 usb2 -> ../../../devices/platform/ehci-omap.0/usb2
  • [20:30:36] <koen> those files are quite old
  • [20:31:09] <Russ> ah
  • [20:31:49] <conost> I just built this image from oe and bitbake --> angstrom base-image
  • [20:31:59] <Russ> koen is just being weird, don't mind him
  • [20:32:25] <Russ> I'd double check the part of the qemu docs on USB devices and/or just use the guest drivers instead
  • [20:33:14] <conost> okay - can you tell me what the guest drivers are, or where I might find them.
  • [20:33:43] <conost> I really appreciate your assistance
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  • [20:39:06] <conost> Russ, thank you for the input. I will do some research on the -usb command line options and the guest drivers.
  • [20:39:09] <conost> -Steve
  • [20:39:43] <thurbad> trying to get the usb working in qemu?
  • [20:42:16] <conost> Yes.
  • [20:42:38] <conost> I do not know how to connect a usb keyboard and mouse to use with X.
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  • [20:49:40] <ericb2> build OOo4Kids on the BB xM should need 3 days. Good stressing test
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  • [21:00:20] <speakman> anyone knows how uarts are "mapped" in the AM cpu?
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  • [21:04:43] <Ceriand|work> speakman: to specific balls on the package?
  • [21:05:05] <speakman> exactly
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  • [21:05:25] <Ceriand|work> speakman: look at the pinmux setup in the system control chapter of the TRM
  • [21:05:29] <speakman> looking in the datasheet and uart3 and uart4 have up to four different gpio pins for each i/o
  • [21:05:34] <speakman> trm?
  • [21:05:46] <Ceriand|work> technical reference manual, on TI's website
  • [21:06:13] <speakman> thanks
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  • [21:17:34] <speakman> serial8250.0: ttyS0 at MMIO 0x4806a000 (irq = 72) is a ST16654
  • [21:17:35] <speakman> serial8250.1: ttyS1 at MMIO 0x4806c000 (irq = 73) is a ST16654
  • [21:17:35] <speakman> serial8250.2: ttyS2 at MMIO 0x49020000 (irq = 74) is a ST16654
  • [21:17:35] <speakman> console [ttyS2] enabled
  • [21:17:35] <speakman> serial8250.3: ttyS3 at MMIO 0x4809e000 (irq = 84) is a ST16654
  • [21:18:18] <speakman> shouldn't the muxing be declared in the mach-omap2/serial.c?
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  • [21:48:23] <Ceriand|work> speakman: the uart are always there and working, but whether or not the signals get out of the chip is another question
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  • [21:49:31] <speakman> oh
  • [21:49:47] <speakman> any idea where this is muxed in the linux kernel?
  • [21:50:04] <Ceriand|work> pinmux is usually setup by the bootloader
  • [21:50:09] <speakman> oh
  • [21:50:10] <Ceriand|work> but linux can set it up too
  • [21:50:29] <Ceriand|work> but it depends on which version of the kernel you have
  • [21:50:44] <Ceriand|work> some older versions didn't have very good support for modifying the pinmux
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  • [21:51:23] <speakman> 2.6.32
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  • [21:52:04] <Ceriand|work> speakman: see CONFIG_OMAP_MUX
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  • [21:58:42] <xxiao> dm3730 ref manual has 3644 pages, should be called dm3644 instead, but 3730 is really close
  • [21:59:27] * xxiao trying to understand diff between CBB.CUS.CBC.etc
  • [22:01:58] <xxiao> CBP.CBC--POP only, CUS--the normal one
  • [22:02:06] <xxiao> CUS also has 0.65mm spacing
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  • [22:03:06] <xxiao> why does CUS has 100 or so less pins than CBP/CBC? read somewhere saying POP too expensive and hard to make
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  • [22:31:26] <_av500_> xxiao: larger spacing, less pins
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  • [22:42:39] <metaliving> how do i power up the beagleboard with a usb battery charger?
  • [22:43:13] <metaliving> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00304DZ7I?*entries*=0&*Version*=1
  • [22:43:16] <metaliving> is this gonna work?
  • [22:45:39] <aholler> depends, with bb c4 yes
  • [22:46:12] <metaliving> xm?
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  • [22:47:09] <aholler> don't think so, i believe that requires than 500mA
  • [22:47:18] <aholler> s/than/more than/
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  • [22:47:39] <metaliving> hm
  • [22:47:42] <metaliving> when did you see the 500mA?
  • [22:47:57] <metaliving> s/when/where
  • [22:48:13] <aholler> thats the maximum an usb-port offers
  • [22:50:00] <metaliving> wait, doesn't that apply only in the case where the power is applied on the usb port?
  • [22:50:28] <metaliving> in this case, i'm trying to connect a usb charger to the actual 5mm port
  • [22:51:08] <metaliving> in other words, is the 500mA the max a usb port can receive or the max a usb cable can transmit?
  • [22:51:10] <aholler> don't know whats your charger offers
  • [22:52:22] <metaliving> charger is 3000mAh
  • [22:53:16] <aholler> thats the capacity
  • [22:53:24] <metaliving> 5V 1000mA
  • [22:54:10] <aholler> i think thats enough, but I'm not sure. doesn't the SRM have something about that?
  • [22:55:17] <metaliving> no idea
  • [22:55:32] <aholler> i don't read it for you ;)
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  • [22:56:56] <metaliving> shit, you meant manual
  • [22:57:08] <metaliving> i thought it was something i didn't know so i gave a neutral answer
  • [22:57:08] <aholler> srm = system reference manual
  • [22:57:09] <metaliving> :P
  • [22:57:17] <aholler> available at beagleboard.org
  • [22:57:33] <metaliving> yeah got it
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  • [23:02:16] <metaliving> crap
  • [23:02:17] <metaliving> 1.5
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  • [23:03:36] <metaliving> anyway
  • [23:03:39] <metaliving> thanks for your time
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  • [23:12:35] <spow> Hey guys, I eventually got my rt73 firmware for the WiFI dongle, the whole Linux configuration of it is done and correct, but I created an ad hoc network on my windows and still have no IP under ipconfig, any thoughts on this ?
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  • [23:13:03] <metaliving> are you using angstrom?
  • [23:13:12] <spow> yep
  • [23:13:35] <metaliving> for me the next problem after i installed rt73 was wpa_supplicant
  • [23:14:12] <spow> the problem is actually on the 'routeur' which is running on windows XP, I'm asking here out of despair
  • [23:14:14] <spow> ^^
  • [23:14:50] <metaliving> ok then
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  • [23:15:15] <spow> i'm noting wpa_supplicant on a sheet jic though
  • [23:15:28] <metaliving> do you have a password on your network?
  • [23:15:31] <spow> no
  • [23:15:58] <spow> disabled the firewall also, but doing ipconfig in cmd shows absolutely nothing
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  • [23:16:18] <metaliving> try
  • [23:16:30] <metaliving> mv /sbin/wpa_supplicant /sbin/#wpa_supplicant#
  • [23:16:36] <metaliving> pgrep wpa_supplicant | xargs kill
  • [23:16:58] <quadmasta> when I'm trying to unpack the angstom rootfs tar.bz2 I keep getting the message in the console: cannot change ownership to uid 0, gid 0: operation not permitted
  • [23:17:04] <quadmasta> any idea what that's about?
  • [23:17:13] <aholler> unpack as root
  • [23:17:16] <spow> how is that related to the fact that the router has no IP ? ^^
  • [23:17:20] <quadmasta> I did
  • [23:17:34] <aholler> than you are unpacking to fat
  • [23:17:48] <metaliving> the router has no IP or the beagle?
  • [23:18:21] <quadmasta> fair enough
  • [23:18:44] <metaliving> try connecting to the network with another pc first
  • [23:18:47] <metaliving> if the connection is fine
  • [23:18:53] <metaliving> then try the wpa_supplicant thing
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  • [23:19:49] <metaliving> installing rt73 and renaming/killing wpa_supplicant were the two things i needed to do to make the (belkin fd7050) wifi dongle work
  • [23:19:55] <spow> no the connection is not fine, that's my prob, totally unrelated to the BB for once ^^
  • [23:20:07] <metaliving> ok
  • [23:20:26] <spow> but i'll keep that in mind once I sort out this windows problem
  • [23:20:50] <spow> I actually believe it'd have taken me less time to actually install Linux instead of this crappy XP OS
  • [23:20:52] <spow> ...
  • [23:21:13] <metaliving> or buy an actual router?
  • [23:21:14] <metaliving> :P
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  • [23:23:45] <spow> I might borrow one from a friend when it's a decent time to knock at doors :P
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  • [23:39:48] <quadmasta> all I'm getting in my serial window when I boot my beagle is 40V
  • [23:39:57] <quadmasta> what'd cause that?
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  • [23:54:29] <spow> it's a good sign
  • [23:54:36] <spow> means it did boot
  • [23:54:44] <spow> I get 40W though
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