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  • [00:00:43] <muriani> I'm pretty sure the header's on the later revisions as well
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  • [00:01:04] <muriani> C3 is an older revision, I got mine over a year ago.
  • [00:01:20] <muriani> ah well.
  • [00:01:24] <muriani> He'll be back, I'm sure.
  • [00:01:27] <djlewis> came out riight I got mine :P
  • [00:01:46] <muriani> I waited for C3 before I got mine :)
  • [00:02:05] <muriani> anyhoo, I won't be back before the new year
  • [00:02:12] <muriani> so merry new year to you all!
  • [00:07:07] <djlewis> have a great one muriani
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  • [03:13:40] <iToast> Hey
  • [03:13:44] <iToast> i have a big quistion...
  • [03:14:01] <iToast> Could i have a beagle board made into a custom size, with ALOT of changes...
  • [03:14:12] <ds2> sure you could.
  • [03:14:25] <iToast> i have a idea for a device...
  • [03:14:31] <iToast> built around the beagle board running android..
  • [03:14:39] <iToast> it requires your tv
  • [03:15:06] <iToast> Beagle board was my first choice due to size price, mod ability, android support
  • [03:15:38] <iToast> That and the lack of a need for a heatsink :P
  • [03:15:58] <iToast> But... for the device... it needs a heatsink
  • [03:16:17] <iToast> I can already start on the operating system "window manager"
  • [03:16:27] <iToast> I don't know what android calls it
  • [03:17:15] <iToast> ds2, what does android call its window manager?
  • [03:19:03] <iToast> ds2, you there?
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  • [03:22:33] <ds2> it is part of android
  • [03:23:28] <iToast> Do they call it anything?
  • [03:23:42] <iToast> Atv has lotide, iDevices have springboard
  • [03:23:49] <iToast> iPod nano has some other thing..
  • [03:28:18] <ds2> nope
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  • [03:38:42] <iToast> ds2
  • [03:38:50] <iToast> Can't i kill it off
  • [03:38:55] <iToast> I can swear it had a name
  • [03:38:59] <iToast> and ran as a process..
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  • [03:42:38] <ds2> no
  • [03:44:06] <iToast> ds2 ughm whats the ui thing..
  • [03:44:19] <iToast> i know you can replace sorta the ui...
  • [03:44:26] <iToast> I RENEMBERED!
  • [03:44:28] <iToast> Its loader!
  • [03:44:34] <iToast> thats the file i want to change
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  • [03:50:30] <iToast> Sorry, somethign went wrong and i had ot DC
  • [03:50:47] <buZz> UNFORGIVABLE
  • [03:50:56] <buZz> ;)
  • [03:51:05] <iToast> noooooooooooooooooo!!!!
  • [03:51:17] <iToast> BuZz i have dishonered bb
  • [03:51:22] <iToast> I must kill my self now
  • [03:51:31] * iToast pulls out a katana and stabs self
  • [03:51:49] * iToast falls to the ground dead as two beagles come to drag my body away
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  • [03:52:23] <iToast> Lol, had to do it
  • [03:52:49] <iToast> BuZz
  • [03:52:55] <buZz> ;)
  • [03:52:56] <iToast> Are there any BB emulators for windows?
  • [03:53:06] <buZz> doesnt qemu compile?
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  • [03:53:17] <iToast> ?
  • [03:53:27] <iToast> I wan't to test out some fw hacking..
  • [03:53:43] <iToast> If im going to develop based on beagle board the default fw has to go
  • [03:53:48] <iToast> Its to clunky...
  • [03:54:10] <iToast> >_>
  • [03:54:27] <iToast> I wanna follow the chromium idea. "We know whats in the machine, lets not waste time scanning for changes!"
  • [03:54:31] <buZz> default firmware?
  • [03:54:36] <buZz> i though beagle had no default firmware
  • [03:54:41] <iToast> When you buy it
  • [03:54:51] <iToast> Doesn't the arm come pre flashed with a bootloader..
  • [03:55:25] <iToast> Allowing it to boot over usb / jtag without any storage attached to the board first
  • [03:55:36] <buZz> you want to write a bootloader?
  • [03:56:01] <iToast> not the bootloader..
  • [03:56:12] <iToast> I want to strip the board bare of software..
  • [03:56:15] <buZz> i think uBoot is in flash on a beagle
  • [03:56:22] <iToast> uBoot needs to go..
  • [03:56:24] <buZz> and a lot of empty space :)
  • [03:56:27] <iToast> Too clunky..
  • [03:56:31] <iToast> :P
  • [03:56:33] <buZz> clunky? :)
  • [03:56:35] <iToast> yes
  • [03:56:45] <iToast> It does'nt meat my speed needs
  • [03:56:48] <buZz> shouldn't you be considering a different board?
  • [03:56:52] <buZz> maybe some fpga
  • [03:56:52] <iToast> no
  • [03:56:55] <iToast> hell no
  • [03:56:57] <iToast> >_>
  • [03:57:02] <iToast> i wan't something linux friendly
  • [03:57:12] <iToast> Even if i base a new bootloader off of uboot
  • [03:57:15] <buZz> arduino? ^_^
  • [03:57:19] <iToast> Lol no
  • [03:57:29] <iToast> i wan't to change the boot loader to be slimmer
  • [03:57:47] <iToast> The device will just boot into android, don't check for serial, jtag, or what ever..
  • [03:57:48] <buZz> you can compile uBoot with different flags to get different options in/excluded
  • [03:57:56] <iToast> :D
  • [03:58:04] <iToast> I want it to jump to a stage 2 bootloader..
  • [03:58:10] <buZz> ah you can script uBoot behaviour anyway to ignore anything and just boot into something already
  • [03:58:16] <iToast> yay!
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  • [03:58:30] <iToast> Can i have a stage 2 bootloader to free the memory used by stage 1
  • [03:58:34] <iToast> then jump into android
  • [03:58:52] <iToast> As stage 2 would check androids integrity, make shure it will still boot..
  • [03:59:10] <buZz> well dno, i'm no rocket scientist ^_^
  • [03:59:14] <iToast> same here :P
  • [03:59:23] <iToast> i like talking to you :D
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  • [04:00:07] <iToast> Buzz, can we talk in pms?
  • [04:00:17] <iToast> I need help with the idea..
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  • [04:00:31] <buZz> sure PM away, i'm have some time
  • [04:00:35] <buZz> lol
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  • [04:00:54] <iToast> Sorry, screwed up the client again
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  • [04:33:08] <iToast> Rawr
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  • [06:01:10] <teja> hi i need some help with the lbcmvga camera module
  • [06:01:32] <teja> any one here that can help me with that?
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  • [06:45:41] <hitlin37> i hav a doubt...who reads MLO from mSD card in xM....ROM code?
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  • [07:30:24] <_av500_> yes
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  • [07:44:08] <hitlin37> hmmm
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  • [07:59:01] <teja> hi
  • [07:59:07] <teja> anyone got a moment?
  • [07:59:46] <ds2> no, they are in short supply. less then 24 hours of left
  • [07:59:55] <teja> :)
  • [08:00:11] <teja> 2012 is still a year away
  • [08:00:12] <teja> :D
  • [08:00:39] <teja> i am having some trouble with the leopard board vga camera
  • [08:00:56] <teja> can you help?
  • [08:10:46] <ds2> it'd depend on the problem, wouldn't it? :D
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  • [09:30:11] <teja> well
  • [09:37:51] <teja> sorry about that
  • [09:37:57] <teja> i had to rush out
  • [09:39:16] <teja> i tried the narcissus build exactly, and gave the bootarg camera=lbcmvga
  • [09:39:41] <teja> the board still doesn't show up as /dev/videoX
  • [09:40:03] <teja> am i missing something very basic?
  • [09:49:31] <teja> do i have the load the kernel module for the camera manually?
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  • [10:05:22] <koen> teja: does dmesg contain 'Beagle cameraboard' and what does /proc/cmdline show?
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  • [10:12:34] <teja> Hey koen, thank you for responding, it shows Beagle cameraboard : lbcmvga
  • [10:12:43] <teja> but i think i realized my mistake
  • [10:12:44] <teja> i didn'
  • [10:12:45] <teja> t
  • [10:12:54] <teja> select "All kernel modules"
  • [10:13:00] <teja> while building the narcissus
  • [10:13:02] <teja> build
  • [10:13:42] <teja> i am a newbie, so still getting the hang of this, i proabably didn't install the camera module
  • [10:13:53] <teja> is that the problem?
  • [10:15:56] <koen> opkg update ; opkg install kernel-modules
  • [10:16:30] <teja> thanks, i'll do that and get back to you.
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  • [11:18:30] <teja> koen: i installed the kernel packages as you suggested
  • [11:19:39] <teja> the Beagle Cameraboard : registering i2c2 bus for lbcmvga
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  • [11:21:29] <teja> i am unable to get the /proc/cmdline
  • [11:22:39] <teja> could you tell me suggest arguments are they the ones mentioned in these : http://www.beagleboard.org/irclogs/index.php?date=2010-09-14
  • [11:23:20] <teja> bad grammar, sorry. could you tell me the suggested arguments? are they the ones mentioned in this? : http://www.beagleboard.org/irclogs/index.php?date=2010-09-14
  • [11:29:59] <aholler> if cat /proc/cmdline doesn't work, you might have another problem.
  • [11:31:45] <teja> it did,
  • [11:31:54] <teja> i was trying vi
  • [11:32:03] <teja> till a couple of minutes back
  • [11:33:56] <mru> vi doesn't work so well on proc files
  • [11:34:04] <teja> :D i just realised
  • [11:34:19] <teja> i am reading the /proc/files for the first time
  • [11:35:16] <teja> i am looking at the bootargs for my xM right now, i can't see the mem variable being called
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  • [11:35:24] <teja> should i still specify it?
  • [11:35:31] <mru> why would you?
  • [11:37:12] <teja> i was reading another chat log where the mem variable was being supplied
  • [11:37:41] <teja> so i don't know whether something has changed since september
  • [11:38:11] <mru> you might need to carve a hole to use dsplink (and thus codecengine)
  • [11:38:24] <mru> if you're not using those, you don't need a mem= option
  • [11:40:18] <teja> okay, and about the other arguments that aren't present, omapfb.vram?
  • [11:41:49] <teja> is it okay if they aren't present? or did i miss something in the setup again
  • [11:46:43] <teja> koen: my /proc/cmdline output is console=ttys2,115200n8 mpurate=1000 buddy=none camera=lbcmvga vram=12M omapfb.mode=dvi:640x480MR-16@60 omapdss.def_disp=dvi root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootfstype=ext3 rootwait
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  • [12:03:17] <baobrien> I think I may have fried part of the usb circuitry on my xM rev. B
  • [12:25:51] <koen> teja: that looks OK
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  • [12:39:39] <teja> koen: since i installed it now, i think i had to manually put in the drivers
  • [12:39:43] <teja> i used insmod
  • [12:39:51] <teja> and put in the right driver
  • [12:39:58] <teja> it showed up as video0
  • [12:40:10] <teja> i am now trying to view it using mplayer
  • [12:42:44] <koen> teja: try 'depmod -ae' and reboot
  • [12:42:49] <koen> it should autoload the driver then
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  • [12:57:40] <ant_work> koen: hey, any hint for the H2200 angstrom-user?
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  • [13:17:50] <teja> koen: okay, its working, thanks for all the help.
  • [13:17:53] <teja> :)
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  • [13:55:59] <koen> av500: congratz on being so GPL compliant according to slashdot
  • [14:05:25] <aholler> such should be normal
  • [14:05:37] <aholler> s/should/must/
  • [14:06:00] <dm8tbr> heh, they clearly stand out on that list
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  • [14:08:44] <koen> I guess they all took Andy Rubin up on his tweet
  • [14:09:55] <iToast> ............
  • [14:10:00] <iToast> Beagle board
  • [14:10:03] <iToast> i have one...
  • [14:10:10] <iToast> i turned it on today and it was growling
  • [14:10:15] <iToast> and barking and it bit me!
  • [14:10:21] <iToast> What do i do...
  • [14:10:39] <koen> be calm and assertive
  • [14:10:49] <koen> no touch, no talk and no eye contact
  • [14:11:04] <koen> then assert yourself as pack leader
  • [14:11:37] <dm8tbr> I guess what helped Archos was that they were doing linux embedded devices for a few years already (and had their obligatory brush with the EFF too)
  • [14:11:57] <aholler> I guess what helps them, is that they can read licenses
  • [14:12:08] <koen> and aren't from asia
  • [14:12:21] <koen> being in the EU helps a lot
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  • [14:16:27] <baobrien> I'm fairly certain that I blew out the LAN9514 on my Beagleboard XM rev. B
  • [14:16:39] <aholler> hmm, the eff could do it like the mp3-folks, use the cebit and collect tablets because of violating licenses ;)
  • [14:16:48] <baobrien> by using a jury-rigged adapter for the Xbox 360 kinect device.
  • [14:24:05] <aholler> baobrien: linux (dmesg) doesn't see the hub and lan-device anymore?
  • [14:24:21] <baobrien> Nope
  • [14:24:30] <baobrien> and the Kinect adapter involves 12v
  • [14:24:39] <baobrien> although it was working on my laptop for awhile
  • [14:25:03] <baobrien> but now it doesn't see the lan and I don't get any new messages when plugging in USB devices
  • [14:26:23] <aholler> so the hub worked as fuse and has protected the board ;)
  • [14:27:31] <baobrien> Yep
  • [14:27:50] <baobrien> So I only need to buy a 10 dollar replacement chip and find someone to replace it
  • [14:30:42] <koen> TPS2054B?
  • [14:30:54] <iToast> koen it bit me again
  • [14:31:12] <iToast> and its kernel panicing
  • [14:31:47] * dm8tbr suspects rabies and votes to put it down!
  • [14:37:36] <baobrien> Does anyone know if I can use (http://beagleboard.org/rma/) for damage that I knowingly but unintentionally caused?
  • [14:37:54] <baobrien> *http://beagleboard.org/support/rma
  • [14:38:17] <aholler> no
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  • [14:40:58] <aholler> hmm, maybe it depends in which country you are living. I have heard someone in the us has won against the manafacturer for putting a cat in the microwave
  • [14:41:31] <dm8tbr> were his initials A.L.F. by chance? ;)
  • [14:41:38] <iToast> this beagle board needs to be put down
  • [14:41:42] <iToast> someone get the microwave!
  • [14:43:10] <iToast> fine il grab it >_>
  • [14:43:24] * iToast grabs the microwave brings ito ut infront of dm8btbr and plugs it in
  • [14:44:04] <iToast> Who wants to see my beagle board be put down..
  • [14:44:11] * iToast kicks the beagle board into a cage
  • [14:44:18] <dm8tbr> youtube or it didn't happen! ;)
  • [14:44:40] <iToast> dm8tber
  • [14:44:44] <iToast> dm8tbr* watch
  • [14:45:00] * iToast dumps the beagle board from the cage into the microwave and sets it to 1 minut
  • [14:45:08] <iToast> You want to do the honers of starting it :P
  • [14:45:14] <mru> will it blend?
  • [14:45:35] <iToast> no
  • [14:45:39] <iToast> not yet...
  • [14:45:56] * iToast takes mru's blenteck blender and plugs it in beside the microwave
  • [14:46:02] * iToast puts a different beagle board in it
  • [14:46:12] <iToast> You want the honors of starting the blender :P
  • [14:48:09] <baobrien> Mmmmm... Circuit Smoke...
  • [14:48:45] <iToast> no one started the blender...
  • [14:48:57] * iToast notices a third beagle board on fire
  • [14:49:04] <iToast> ffs who set this one on fire -_-
  • [14:51:11] <baobrien> Oh, Sorry
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  • [14:52:46] <iToast> baobrien, run the dianostics tool
  • [14:54:10] <baobrien> I'll try that
  • [14:54:38] <iToast> Your linux distro might be f'd up D:
  • [14:54:42] <baobrien> Nope
  • [14:54:57] <baobrien> I tried about 3 different ones after debian stopped booting from the external HDD
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  • [14:59:12] <iToast> are your distros compatible
  • [14:59:34] <iToast> is it getting enough power?
  • [14:59:39] <iToast> is your power "clean"
  • [15:00:05] <mru> hmm, power laundering
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  • [15:01:08] <iToast> no?
  • [15:01:14] <iToast> just add filtering caps
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  • [15:06:46] <baobrien> I'm fairly certain that it was the jury rigged Kinect adapter that I made.
  • [15:06:58] <baobrien> because 12v was involved
  • [15:07:09] <baobrien> and that's when it started having issues
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  • [15:21:33] <jacquesdupontd> HAPPY NEW YEAR JAPAN
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  • [15:44:01] <djlewis> gm
  • [15:44:17] <djlewis> yep 12 voltz and beagleboards are not good playmates
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  • [15:46:33] <djlewis> baobrien: where did you find the linect interface guide?
  • [15:46:41] <djlewis> s/linect/kinect
  • [15:47:11] <baobrien> Let me go track that down
  • [15:47:31] <baobrien> There wasn't supposed to be 12v exposed to the USB side of the adapter, though
  • [15:47:47] <baobrien> but it was pretty crudely made, so that could have been easily possible
  • [15:48:23] <baobrien> http://www.xbox360-hacks.com/forums/about6655.html
  • [15:48:37] <baobrien> Used the pinout and some PCB to build a working connector
  • [15:49:20] <baobrien> It was fine on my laptop, but it could have easily caused problems
  • [15:56:52] <djlewis> oh yes, another proprietary connection
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  • [16:01:33] <djlewis> perhaps sparkfun will have that connector out soon?
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  • [16:04:33] <djlewis> and then again they get the image and the diagram numbered differently
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  • [16:33:53] <djlewis> baobrien: seems the kinect purchase includes the ac adapter and necessary cabling.
  • [16:35:26] <baobrien> My brother got it w/ xbox 360 slim, so no, it didn't come with an adapter.
  • [16:35:40] <djlewis> bummer
  • [16:36:18] <djlewis> i've been thinking on getting one but the play funding is not up to par :(
  • [16:36:54] <djlewis> just the kinect, that is.
  • [16:36:57] <baobrien> It's a pretty cool little device
  • [16:37:10] <baobrien> Like I said, it was working w/ my laptop for awhile
  • [16:37:33] <baobrien> and openkinect compiled on armel debian squeeze with no problems
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  • [16:38:09] <djlewis> you were soooo close ....
  • [16:38:18] <baobrien> Yep
  • [16:38:32] <baobrien> I'll just have to see if anyone can replace a qfn64 at the local hackerspace
  • [16:39:16] <djlewis> if you are where I think you are, then you stand a good chance.
  • [16:40:08] * djlewis is directing spare change at his telescope project for the time being.
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  • [16:40:15] <baobrien> Where do you think I am?
  • [16:40:21] <djlewis> Madison WI
  • [16:40:26] <baobrien> Nope
  • [16:40:28] <djlewis> hmm
  • [16:40:38] <djlewis> should have trace routed you
  • [16:40:40] <baobrien> Near St. Louis.
  • [16:40:53] <djlewis> oh, close to me, kinda in central Arkansas
  • [16:41:41] <djlewis> I think I am the only beagleboard user in Arkansas
  • [16:42:17] <baobrien> Probably
  • [16:42:44] <djlewis> I dont know of others in your area either.
  • [16:46:09] <baobrien> Probably
  • [16:54:52] <djlewis> baobrien: looks like a bit of hazardous weather for us both today.
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  • [17:23:45] <cwillu> djlewis, define hazardous, so that I may mock you for thinking it's hazardous :p
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  • [17:28:40] <mikey_w> My New Years resolution. "I will buy no tablet that doesn't have GPL compliance!"
  • [17:30:21] <mikey_w> http://www.codon.org.uk/~mjg59/android_tablets/
  • [17:31:12] <aholler> buying one with gpl-source might not make you more happy. the manufacturer might sill play games with you through signing stuff.
  • [17:32:17] <mikey_w> Signing stuff requirements may be a GPL violation.
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  • [17:33:47] <mikey_w> The Archos tablets look very attractive because of their GPL compliance.
  • [17:34:06] <aholler> it's still closed until you'll give up warranty
  • [17:34:41] <mikey_w> That statement is a waste of their time and probably meaningless.
  • [17:35:45] <aholler> but it doesn't help, if you aren't willing to invest time to make such a device usable. e.g. their updates are oneway, no way to downgrade.
  • [17:36:08] <aholler> so not all is good in archos land.
  • [17:37:14] <aholler> just my 2??
  • [17:40:54] <aholler> and they do that, because you'll loose the ability to gain (temp)root with the last update (at least for now). So their eng. like to play games with their customers. At least this is how I understood such.
  • [17:42:22] <mru> av500: ^^
  • [17:43:47] <koen> the archos devices are reflashable
  • [17:44:07] <koen> they need to be to classified as computers to avoid the EU mediaplayer tax :)
  • [17:45:25] <aholler> sorry, but there for me there is no excuse to forbid customers to revert an update. That means testing an update isn't possible.
  • [17:46:17] <mikey_w> The watermark will be discovered and removed eventually.
  • [17:48:06] <aholler> like it happened with the ps3
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  • [18:09:09] <aholler> but I'm just a pointless one. I don't even understand why it is forbidden for a user on most android devices to become root.
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  • [18:37:36] <baobrien> djlewis: It's raining!
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  • [18:43:38] <koen> aholler: because android is open
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  • [18:50:52] <djlewis> cwillu: it was the tornado watches and warnings that got the rating
  • [18:51:16] <djlewis> baobrien: yep, seems we got a light touch of it after all.
  • [18:58:53] <cwillu> ah, okay then
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  • [20:32:19] <djlewis_> baobrien: still clear of the storm?
  • [20:33:00] <baobrien> Yep. The rain has been gone for some time now. The sun is out now.
  • [20:34:14] <djlewis_> baobrien: lookin at the weather map, eastern MO is under heavy storm stress and duress.
  • [20:36:14] <baobrien> Not in my particular area. I'm actually on the Illinois side of the Mississippi, but very close to St. Louis
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  • [21:13:40] <diskofish> Hey dudes.
  • [21:14:40] <diskofish> I am looking for some info on USB and Android. Need to get a HID device working under android
  • [21:15:02] <diskofish> Anyone know of any example code I could look at as a reference
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  • [21:24:29] <djlewis_> well, not i'm not related to android but knowing the type of device might help.
  • [21:25:19] <djlewis_> button, analog joystick, gyro, accelerometer....
  • [21:25:37] <djlewis_> touchpad, touch screen...
  • [21:25:45] <djlewis_> mouse, kybd...
  • [21:29:59] <djlewis_> and then there is #android, #android-dev
  • [21:31:11] <diskofish> Cool. It's a custom HID device
  • [21:31:22] <diskofish> so I just need to send and receive very simple reports
  • [21:32:42] <aholler> I would say you will need root ;)
  • [21:33:21] <diskofish> Probably so -
  • [21:33:28] <diskofish> I have an archos 28
  • [21:34:02] <diskofish> it supports mass storage and mouse out of the box
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  • [23:53:31] <svdasein> Hi - I just bought a Bxx board from a guy on ebay and am otherwise a newbie. Thus far I've managed to build an mmc that'll boot ubuntu if I get uboot running first w/ the user button.
  • [23:54:08] <svdasein> I'm not clear on how to boot off my chip w/o using uboot - is there something I need to save to nand or some such?
  • [23:54:30] <jacekowski> it's explained in TRM
  • [23:54:37] <svdasein> trm?
  • [23:55:12] <jacekowski> technical reference manual
  • [23:56:14] <svdasein> ah ok