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[00:14:32] <ds2> Hmmmm ginnie pig sw Hmmmm
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[00:39:04] <emeb> sounds like something koen would do...
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[01:17:05] <HES> has anyone successfully downloaded an angstrom sd card image...
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[01:20:48] <HES> u dont need to do dual partitiion when copying an image to the sd card right?
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[01:29:22] <HES> also I try the netbook ubuntu image...its super slow on REVC4...
[01:30:00] <djlewis> HES: there are directions for using a supplied script on the demo site.
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[02:31:59] <cwicks> good morning jkridner
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[02:36:42] <ds2> UT student thingie?
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[03:03:16] <cwicks> Hi ds2 I'm in a time warp from the holidays and joined late. Did we have any UT students tonight with questions?
[03:12:09] <djlewis> didn't see any
[03:14:32] <prpplague> cwicks: nor did i
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[03:22:35] <ds2> it has been quiet
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[06:07:47] <rick_> Hello, can the hw ecc layout be found in the TRM?
[06:08:20] <rick_> Or is it a NAND device specific property?
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[08:46:30] <mihu> Hi. Yesterday I was advised to use Angstrom 2.6.32 or the beagleboard-validation kernel (also 2.6.32) kernel on my BB xM if I want to hack the kernel. I now went for the validation kernel, but have the same old problem that I cannot boot my rootfs via nfs. The problem is that the USB eth adapter is detected after the kernel already tried to apply the network settings to the non-existent adapter. The result is an unconfigured network a
[08:46:32] <mihu> Yesterday somebody gave the hint to apply http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=964ad81cbd933e5fa310faeec1e923c14651284b, but this does not do the trick. Now the boot is delayed by another 12 seconds... :-) Needless to say that the same kernel command line works with a plain BB C4, 2.6.36 kernel and some off-the-shelf MOSCHIP USB dongle.
[08:51:37] <likewise> gm
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[08:51:54] <mihu> Grr. Found it.
[08:52:46] <av500> found what?
[08:53:03] <mihu> I was using "ip=172.16.98.3:::::eth0:off" in my kernel command line. It seems that the on-board USB ethernet adapter will not come up as "eth0" but as "usb" instead. So just leaving out the "eth0" part and using "ip=172.16.98.3::::::off" makes my nfs root boot.
[08:53:04] <dm8tbr> *it*, now he knows *it* too ;)
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[10:20:03] <lucy75> Hi, please I need some help
[10:20:23] <lucy75> I have installed Angstrom distribution
[10:20:37] <lucy75> but afeter login I get a black screen
[10:20:54] <lucy75> just the mouse arrow is visible
[10:25:24] <aholler_> and nothing happens when you press the right mouse button?
[10:26:05] <lucy75> No
[10:26:29] <lucy75> nothing happens
[10:26:48] <aholler_> than you have to check what's going on using the serial
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[10:27:06] <lucy75> the boot process is ok
[10:27:20] <lucy75> and I can login in the console
[10:31:25] <lucy75> Have I to install particular Qt packages ?
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[12:12:10] <koen> Crofton|work: ping
[12:14:19] <koen> Crofton|work: nm, found it at git://ettus.sourcerepo.com/ettus/uhd.git
[12:35:41] <mihu> What is the easiest way to distinguish a BB-xM from a BB-C4 for example from a shell script? I want to run the same image on both systems, but need to do things differently on startup.
[12:37:53] <mru> point a webcam at it :)
[12:41:46] <mru> koen: happy birthday
[12:42:02] <av500> koen: happy birthday +1
[12:43:01] <Crofton|work> pong
[12:43:11] <koen> thanks!
[12:43:40] <koen> Crofton|work: I already built a more recent uhd, hopefully that will resolve the missing tune_request_t error in grc
[12:43:54] <Crofton|work> hmm
[12:45:49] <koen> Crofton|work: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/images/e100-1.png
[12:46:03] <koen> I hooked up the e100 to my main screen and keyboard
[12:46:18] <koen> since my laptop is openened up awaiting a ram transplant
[12:48:43] <koen> Crofton|work: http://pastebin.com/T7x1wzDC
[12:49:50] <Crofton|work> Josh is breaking the api again :)
[12:50:37] <koen> as long as gr-next and uhd match, I don't care a lot :)
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[13:11:45] <hgs1> does bitbake native-sdk-image give the package which i can use it on host for cross compilation??
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[14:11:18] <mihu> Hm. I now use 2.6.32 on my BB-xM. I have attached a peripherial via SPI and for every SPI message sent, I now receive "spidev spi4.0: DMA RX last word empty" on the console. This does not happen with the BB-C4 and 2.6.36. Any ideas?
[14:11:35] <mihu> The message transfer itself is flawless though.
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[14:17:10] <aholler> try 2.6.36 on the xm.
[14:17:16] <aholler> or 2.6.37-rc
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[14:20:11] <mihu> aholler: I took Tony Lindgren's GIT tree from yesterday but that does not boot, the same with vanilla 2.6.36. I asked here and was told to use the Angstrom 2.6.32 version or the one from the BeagleBoard validation.
[14:20:46] <mihu> I have been using 2.6.36 on the C4 since it came out and I'm a bit disappointed to use 2.6.32 I must admit.
[14:20:53] <aholler> do you have tried linus tree? 2.6.37-rc was the first vanilla kernel I could use on the c4
[14:21:13] <aholler> (unmodified)
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[14:22:05] <aholler> many omap-specific stuff found it's way into 2.6.37
[14:23:00] <mihu> No, I always used linux-omap tree. I could give latest Linus GIT tree a try.
[14:28:49] <aholler> don't forget that ttyS0 was changed to ttyO0
[14:29:41] <mihu> aholler: Hm, what was that good for?
[14:29:55] <aholler> someone wanted an O
[14:30:06] <aholler> don't know ;)
[14:30:31] <mihu> The last thing I wanted to change would have been the ancient ttySx interfaces.
[14:30:58] <av500> yeah
[14:32:48] * dm8tbr was surprised too?
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[14:46:39] <mihu> aholler: Hm, does not come up. "Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel." and the nothin. Changed "console=ttyO0,115200n8" of but that did not help.
[14:47:28] <mihu> aholler: Basically I used the "omap2plus_defconfig" and then made sure that only BeagleBoard is selected as a board.
[14:47:39] <av500> dont use defconfigs
[14:47:47] <av500> use the bb config as used by e.g. angstrom
[14:51:39] <aholler> yes, copy an old config an do a make oldconfig
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[14:52:19] <mihu> aholler: Ok. It's compiling already.
[14:52:49] <aholler> securetty needs a new entry too. and inittab
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[15:08:04] <mihu> aholler: There is no difference with the old config from 2.6.32. The kernel simply does not come up. I am giving up for today.
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[15:18:44] <destinal> aholler: didn't solaris or BSD used to use ttyO for serial too?
[15:18:54] <destinal> seems I've seen that before somewhere
[15:33:38] <koen> drat, gnuradio.org is down
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[16:39:31] <Crofton|work> koen, gnuradio.org is up here
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[16:50:21] <koen> Crofton|work: up again here as well
[16:50:31] <koen> Crofton|work: matching uhd and gr got rid of the error
[16:50:43] <koen> Crofton|work: now I'm left with an assert in the wx code
[16:51:05] <koen> it seems wxgui tries to resize something without a window
[16:52:02] <Crofton|work> hmm
[16:52:18] <Crofton|work> any tricks getting grc going?
[16:52:36] <Crofton|work> I need to make some notes so others can do this
[16:52:47] <koen> build wxpythn and pyqt4, then build uhd and gr
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[17:02:03] <Crofton|work> wxpython needs bakefile still?
[17:03:44] <koen> I used the python script
[17:03:52] <koen> Crofton|work: I'll put a copy of my /usr online
[17:04:56] <koen> Crofton|work: make a backup of your card first :)
[17:06:54] <Crofton|work> ok, I need to work through the process
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[17:07:35] <Crofton|work> can't decide if I want to fool with this, or look at converting blocks from blks2 to c
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[17:10:15] <Crofton|work> I think I need to start on the blks2 stuff ....
[17:12:59] <Crofton|work> koen, what ipks should I add to the shipping image to make it easier to buyild grc
[17:13:19] <Crofton|work> also, you can run grc on the desktop and copy yrh generated python file to the E100
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[17:16:25] <koen> it generated the files just fine
[17:16:36] <koen> executing them triggers the assert
[17:17:59] <koen> Crofton|work: screen, htop, powertop in by default would be nice
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[17:26:40] <koen> Crofton|work: see jabber for the link
[17:27:24] <Crofton|work> got it
[17:27:40] <Crofton|work> opkg update seem slow
[17:28:53] <Crofton> screen should already be installed :)
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[18:12:30] <metaliving> hello
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[18:12:46] <metaliving> anyone else having problem with getting sound to work with xm on ubuntu 10.10?
[18:12:50] <metaliving> problems*
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[18:24:46] <djlewis_> gm
[18:25:46] <av500> gm
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[18:26:30] <djlewis_> gm
[18:26:35] <djlewis_> to you too
[18:28:49] <ds2> gm
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[18:32:55] <emeb> gm
[18:33:05] <av500> emeb: flight booked?
[18:33:14] <emeb> uh - yeah...
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[18:36:28] <djlewis_> av500: getting ready for company?
[18:36:58] <ds2> champaign ordered?
[18:37:30] <djlewis_> smores sticks ready?
[18:37:49] * av500 is preparing to leave town over new year :)
[18:38:13] <ds2> do send a notice on how the other side of the year looks so we can best make use of the 8 hour notice on it ;)
[18:38:23] <djlewis_> lol
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[18:38:34] * emeb suspects not much changes...
[18:38:38] <prpplague> ds2: http://www.surpluscomputers.com/350079/data-modul-claa070lc0jct-color-800.html
[18:39:09] <ds2> prpplague: that's been floating around for a while
[18:39:11] <emeb> cheep!
[18:39:20] <prpplague> ds2: at that price?
[18:39:23] <ds2> I been tempted but then I want sunlight visible
[18:39:40] <av500> lol
[18:39:43] <ds2> prpplague: yes. I thought about driving over and asking if I can bid on the entire log but...
[18:39:56] <prpplague> ds2: ahh interesting, i had seen it before
[18:39:59] <ds2> but the sunlight visible is the reason I am sticking with the LCD I am using
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[18:40:07] <prpplague> ds2: i got it working with the panda over the weekend
[18:40:11] <av500> ds2: is there anything that you dont object on?
[18:40:17] <av500> prpplague: wow :)
[18:40:32] <av500> prpplague: on a panda, I expect you to hook up 4 of them
[18:40:39] <ds2> prpplague: nice... you got scrap boards with the right connector?
[18:40:47] <djlewis_> prpplague: what was that BB display addon you were working on?
[18:40:51] <ds2> av500: blame it on nokia
[18:41:01] <ds2> the n900 screen has made it hard to go back to plain LCDs
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[18:41:34] <av500> ds2: one of the 2 things I hate about the nexus one is that the screen is crap in (day)light
[18:41:34] <prpplague> ds2: no i desoldered the connector and added a SN75LVDS82 to it
[18:41:53] <ds2> prpplague: oh hehe
[18:42:33] <av500> prpplague: lvds?
[18:42:35] <ds2> av500: *nod* a lot of phones are like that; I used mine outdoors a lot and I am often the only guy who can read the screen (used to show GPS info)
[18:42:43] <prpplague> av500: yea lvds receiver chip
[18:42:47] <av500> ah
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[18:43:07] <prpplague> i already have several lvds boards that work on the beagle and panda
[18:43:08] <av500> prpplague: the ts could be a bitch
[18:43:14] <ds2> prpplague: are you using the HDMI port?
[18:43:34] <prpplague> av500: seemed to work fine with the TSC2007
[18:43:41] <prpplague> ds2: no the DPI interface
[18:43:46] <av500> yes, but most 7" ts I know need way too much force
[18:44:01] <av500> seems that 7" is too big and they have to make them too stiff
[18:44:20] <ds2> prpplague: which kernel?
[18:44:28] <ds2> Lxx or the L-O/K-O ?
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[18:44:44] <prpplague> ds2: L27.x 2.6.35
[18:45:23] <ds2> stock diag kernel?
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[18:45:45] <prpplague> ds2: i am sorry i did not understand your question
[18:46:46] <ds2> prpplague: there is a diagnostic kernel posted somewhere for testing the board - is this the same source or a more recent mod?
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[18:47:49] <prpplague> ds2: "the board" == PandaBoard ?
[18:47:58] <ds2> av500: are you allow to say if the LCD on the 70 is 24 or 18bpp?
[18:48:01] <ds2> prpplague: yes
[18:48:24] <av500> ds2: under nda? :)
[18:48:33] <av500> ds2: 24 iirc
[18:48:37] <av500> sec
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[18:48:50] <prpplague> ds2: no it isn't the validation kernel that was posted, this is the L27.8.2 kernel build with a few patches i added
[18:49:07] <ds2> av500: is the cap sense bonded to the LCD? (trying to see if hacking in my 7" sunlight LCDs is viable or not
[18:49:31] <ds2> prpplague: gotcha.. are you setting up the ports to clone or to be seperate?
[18:49:34] <av500> ds2: no idea, never took it apart
[18:49:38] <prpplague> ds2: seperate
[18:49:40] <av500> ds2: yes, gazillions of colors
[18:50:41] <ds2> prpplague: Nice; I was going to do the lazy way and flip the clone bit
[18:51:20] <ds2> av500: the reason I wanted to know the bpp is my LCD is 24 bpp so 18bpp would require a bit more work to map things
[18:51:36] <av500> ds2: right
[18:52:04] <ds2> a cap sense 7" sunlight visible tablet would be idea (from my point of view); only way to top it is to make it ruggedized
[18:52:36] <ds2> ideal
[18:52:59] <av500> put it into a toughbook
[18:53:30] <ds2> everytime a refurb/used batch shows up, it is all gone by the time I see the listing!
[18:53:33] <prpplague> av500: the tsc2007 is pretty robust, you can set a few flags to help with the touch calibration on larger panels
[18:53:53] <prpplague> av500: i've run up to a 8.9" resistive with the tsc2007 with no issues
[18:54:16] <prpplague> av500: but as ds2 can attest, i'm very easy to please when it comes to functionality
[18:54:39] <prpplague> av500: people like ds2 are alot more decerning with the capabilities than i
[18:54:51] <ds2> prpplague: you need to spend some time on the N900 then come back and see how well your TS responds
[18:55:20] <prpplague> ds2: n900 capacitive?
[18:55:22] <av500> ds2: or on our 4" or 5" ones
[18:55:34] <ds2> prpplague: no, resistive but tuned for a pretty light touch
[18:55:42] <prpplague> ahh
[18:55:47] <av500> ds2: same here, but for some reason hard on 7"
[18:55:56] <ds2> av500: I can't comment on that since I haven't spent time on those whereas I spent a lot of time on the 900
[18:56:01] <av500> we had 3 ys of 7" products that failed on that
[18:56:29] <ds2> 7" seems to vary a lot - the generic 7" tablet I got is horrible, even harder then the panels I get myself
[18:57:03] <av500> prpplague: also it depends on the UI, simple ts ui only need clicks, as soon as you add drag is where it matters.
[18:57:22] * prpplague usually only tests with evtest
[18:57:22] <av500> because you might lose the "mouse down" while you drag
[18:57:34] <ds2> boot Android...the main screen is sort of usable for testing a TS
[18:57:44] <prpplague> av500: i have a hacked up evtest that i use for testing
[18:58:09] <ds2> prpplague: or try ts_test or something like that... it comes with ts_calibrate and lets you draw on the screen
[18:58:32] <prpplague> ds2: yea, thats basically what my hacked up evtest does
[18:58:38] <ds2> heh
[18:58:50] <ds2> <-- lazy, unpacks random binaries for testing ;)
[18:59:25] <prpplague> i like to have my own tools that don't require a 2 terabyte sd card
[18:59:59] <ds2> cheaper to keep a stack of 2TB cards around
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[19:04:03] <djlewis_> why do most customers buy the emergency thermal blanket with that LCD screen?
[19:04:22] <av500> yeah, that was my question too
[19:05:15] <prpplague> djlewis_: or the dope scale for that matter
[19:05:30] <djlewis_> hehee
[19:05:36] <ds2> because it is so nonsunlight readable, they need the blanket to block out the sun
[19:05:40] <djlewis_> oh, those imports..
[19:05:56] <ds2> got to know how heavy the screen is with all the tiny wires running all over the place ;)
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[19:17:55] <djlewis_> ok, just how cold does it get in Norway for the pipes to freeze?
[19:18:22] * djlewis_ pictures the water pipes 20ft under ground
[19:18:24] <koen> below zero I guess
[19:18:40] <av500> djlewis_: norway has heated sidewalks
[19:18:54] <av500> as does iceland
[19:19:52] <djlewis_> well, bbc news says the pipes froze then burst. Just dont seen right for Norway.
[19:31:45] <ds2> djlewis: maybe the frost depth is > 20ft? ;)
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[21:47:54] <mru> djlewis_: water pipes in sweden are usually about 8ft underground
[21:48:12] <mru> norway is probably about the same
[21:56:46] <djlewis_> mru: yeah, i'm just amazed that they froze in a mostly frozen country, if that makes sense.
[21:57:42] <mru> once in a while it freezes deeper than usual
[21:59:08] <av500> just put these everywhere: http://www.allwarm.com/driveway-heat.htm
[21:59:11] <djlewis_> well, i'm glad to be in my balmy 0C area ;)
[21:59:34] <djlewis_> i wanna lay on it
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