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  • [01:56:27] <ds2> while you're at it, please add more NAND ;)
  • [01:56:47] <ds2> say 1Gbyte
  • [01:57:49] <pupnik> Archos 7.0 has been off power mains for 4.25 hours - mostly idle. battery reads 100% still
  • [01:58:16] <pupnik> wonderful deep-sleep when there's no stupid apps in the background
  • [01:58:37] <ds2> vs a no name import tablet which would be dead after 2 hours :D
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  • [01:59:48] <pupnik> yea
  • [01:59:55] <pupnik> exactly what i'm comparing it to
  • [02:00:43] <pupnik> i could cry, it's so nice to finally see powersave / sleep work so well
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  • [03:41:12] <xxiao> what chip is Archos using?
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  • [03:49:29] <pupnik> xxiao: omap 3640 in the 'generation 8' tablets
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  • [04:00:30] <xxiao> interesting, not sure what's the diff between 3640.3530
  • [04:00:32] <xxiao> thanks
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  • [07:02:05] <hitlin37> what could be the reason when audio is playing at slow rate on rowboat/bb/gstreamer-gst-launch
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  • [09:05:43] <metaliving> hi
  • [09:05:59] <metaliving> is it possible to boot through a wireless network from nfs?
  • [09:08:59] <metaliving> angstrom is hella slow from the sd
  • [09:31:43] <Nexton> Is there a benchmark on DMA transfer rate (on ARM side)? I transfered 1MB (element size 4, 256 elements, 1024 frames) 1024 times, which took approximately 11.8s (giving approximately 85MB/s for transfer rate). Relaunching the transfer naturally slows down the transfer rate... I am not sure how significantly. I was wondering if this result is even near the real performance...
  • [09:32:14] <koen> metaliving: get a faster sd card
  • [09:38:44] <metaliving> i have the one that was with beagle xm
  • [09:39:19] <av500> they are slow
  • [09:39:22] <metaliving> which is class 4
  • [09:39:36] <av500> class 4 says nothing
  • [09:39:41] <metaliving> ok
  • [09:40:20] <metaliving> do you have any recommendations?
  • [09:43:41] <tassleho1f> metaliving: I've been told to use sandisk by the people here.
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  • [09:45:44] <tassleho1f> just ordered some class 2 sandisk after having issues with class 6 transcend. when my order arrives I'll find out if me or transcend were to blame.
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  • [09:49:45] <metaliving> okay
  • [09:49:46] <metaliving> thanks
  • [09:51:57] <metaliving> not sure if it's the sd's fault tho
  • [09:52:01] <metaliving> angstrom is really slow
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  • [10:13:08] <lyakh> hm, looks like my vaux4 is not set
  • [10:13:23] <lyakh> (beagleboard-xM, camera connector, 2.8V)
  • [10:15:12] <lyakh> koen: ideas?
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  • [10:22:00] <koen> let me have a look
  • [10:25:50] <koen> lyakh: 2.6.32 has it as a regulator: http://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/linux/blobs/validation-20100805/arch/arm/mach-omap2/board-omap3beagle.c#line544
  • [10:26:07] <koen> lyakh: grep that file for 2v8
  • [10:26:19] <lyakh> koen: yes, that's what I've done in my kernel too
  • [10:26:26] <koen> the glue file http://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/linux/blobs/validation-20100805/arch/arm/mach-omap2/board-omap3beagle-camera.c enables it
  • [10:26:56] <lyakh> but I've done without a device pointer
  • [10:27:20] <lyakh> and is 1800000uV voltage correct in that patch? should be 2.8V?
  • [10:27:43] <koen> ISTR 2v8 was a misnomer and it is 1v8
  • [10:28:45] <koen> I wonder if sergio is awake already and remembers the details
  • [10:32:25] <lyakh> koen: actually, sorry, I only enable it in the sensor driver, and it does go to 1.8V... but no, it seems, the camera wants 2.8V
  • [10:32:29] <lyakh> from its datasheet
  • [10:32:43] <lyakh> it shouldn't fry if I try, right?...
  • [10:32:51] <koen> I don't think so
  • [10:33:05] <koen> do you have any of the other sensors to try?
  • [10:34:09] <koen> the 3MP and vga ones seem to work with 1.8V
  • [10:34:24] <koen> but leopard imaging has been liberal with the pin definition
  • [10:36:11] <lyakh> no, only mt9p031
  • [10:40:09] <koen> I can try with my sensor and see if it blows up
  • [10:41:25] <av500> go for it!
  • [10:41:28] <av500> utube please
  • [10:45:33] <lyakh> koen: tried, it's now 2.8V, but the sensor still not replying... looking further
  • [10:46:14] <lyakh> next: wondering, whether 98 is the correct reset GPIO, doesn't seem to toggle
  • [10:47:45] <lyakh> don't see it on bb schematics at all...
  • [10:47:55] <lyakh> ah, right, the field
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  • [10:49:38] <lyakh> yeah, seems correct...
  • [10:53:19] <koen> with the other sensor we needed a power-reset dance
  • [10:54:23] <lyakh> yes, I'm trying to repeat that for now...
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  • [11:38:52] <koen> lyakh: what do you propose to handle the different sensors using the same i2c address?
  • [11:39:46] <lyakh> koen: that's an interesting question...
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  • [11:40:03] <lyakh> on the same video interface?
  • [11:40:24] <lyakh> connected over some mux?
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  • [11:43:09] <koen> lyakh: identifying which module you have plugged in and loading the correct sensor driver
  • [11:43:22] <koen> the 2.6.32 code just looked at a cmdline var
  • [11:43:28] <koen> which you had to set manually
  • [11:43:37] <lyakh> koen: ah, so, only one of them is connected
  • [11:43:46] <lyakh> what about their ID registers?
  • [11:43:59] <lyakh> anything meaningful?
  • [11:44:08] <koen> yes, but you need to read those over i2c
  • [11:44:17] <koen> and it seems you can only init that once
  • [11:45:02] <koen> ideally the kernel reads the register over i2c, fills in the pdata and reinits the i2c subsys
  • [11:45:44] <lyakh> then probe of one of them will fail, when it finds a wrong ID
  • [11:46:03] <lyakh> ah, but yes, you cannot load both...
  • [11:46:38] <lyakh> hm, that's more an i2c question, than a v4l one, sorry... ask i2c guys?
  • [11:47:36] <koen> that was my next option :)
  • [11:47:58] * koen suspects to get a "fix your hw" answer
  • [11:48:01] <lyakh> first question is - would both drivers be loaded and both probe functions called...
  • [11:56:43] <lyakh> so far I cannot read i2c from just one camera module:(
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  • [12:11:50] <mru> http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=45052
  • [12:12:14] <mru> ^^ could that be related to the mmio problems reported in u-boot?
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  • [12:21:34] <av500> mru: seems so
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  • [13:29:37] <lyakh> ahhh... it does have an SADDR pin... and it certainly is pulled low...
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  • [13:31:07] <lyakh> and it still doesn't help:(
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  • [13:40:37] <aholler> mru: looks so
  • [13:41:43] <aholler> but 4.5.2 is already released and someone posted he seen that problem with 4.5.2 too
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  • [15:01:54] <lyakh> hm, getting timeouts on i2c #2 on bb-xm, yes, I did register it per "omap_register_i2c_bus(2, 100, NULL, 0);"
  • [15:03:18] <lyakh> hm, let me guess - a missing pull up on data?...
  • [15:06:31] <koen> yes
  • [15:06:40] <koen> uboot is supposed to do that for you already
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  • [15:06:56] <koen> unless you enabled in-kernel muxing, in which case everything will be broken
  • [15:07:25] <av500> koen: uboot can go and solder you a pullup?
  • [15:07:34] <koen> 37xx has stronger internal ones5
  • [15:07:42] <lyakh> koen: there is some muxing magic in the kernel... what shall I take care about?
  • [15:07:43] <mru> koen: so you're trying to evade fosdem, eh?
  • [15:07:58] <koen> mru: trying to get budget for both trips
  • [15:08:01] <av500> koen: do you think we removed the external ones because some data sheet said so? :)
  • [15:08:22] <koen> av500: heh, no
  • [15:08:30] <mru> koen: brussels is between nice and .nl, no?
  • [15:08:39] <av500> parachute!!!!
  • [15:08:55] <koen> mru: it looks like I can do nice -> ams -> bru as the quickest option
  • [15:08:59] <lyakh> koen: you mean this: "CONFIG_OMAP_MUX=y" ?
  • [15:09:09] <koen> lyakh: yes, don't use that for beagle
  • [15:09:13] <lyakh> ooh:(
  • [15:09:16] <lyakh> koen: thanks
  • [15:09:25] <mru> koen: hmm, that seems kinda silly
  • [15:10:09] <koen> lyakh: try starting with http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/beagleboard/config-2.6.36+2.6.37-rc7-r95a+gitr04b7dac5b85442b970838188f6338952a98aae84-beagleboard.config
  • [15:10:32] <koen> mru: yeah, I'm trying to piece together a bettter trip
  • [15:10:43] <koen> but that seems to involve arriving on sat instead of fri
  • [15:11:58] <koen> I could make it up by swiping some pandas from the nice office and build a pandawall ;)
  • [15:12:13] <koen> or 12 blaze tablets
  • [15:12:27] <av500> koen: lol
  • [15:18:19] * Crofton|work is building the e100 fpga image at hiome
  • [15:18:23] <Crofton|work> well trying to
  • [15:18:34] <Crofton|work> stupid xilinx license damager
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  • [15:21:22] <ac> I just got a beagleboard and use pre-built Angstrom image. I can use ping command, but there is no ifconfig command.
  • [15:22:06] <ac> Did pre-built Angstrom image miss ifconfig shell command?
  • [15:24:48] <likewise> lyakh: Hi, got customer kernel sources (all of it) for the Aptina sensor
  • [15:24:57] * likewise is looking up model number
  • [15:25:01] <koen> ac: it's in /sbin
  • [15:25:25] <lyakh> likewise: remind me, was it on bb?
  • [15:25:26] <likewise> lyakh: MT9P031
  • [15:25:39] <lyakh> yep, that's the sensor I've got
  • [15:25:39] <likewise> lyakh: yes
  • [15:25:47] <lyakh> but I seem to be having i2c problems
  • [15:26:16] <likewise> lyakh: what is your hardware (BB-XM + sensor)?
  • [15:26:31] <lyakh> yep
  • [15:27:07] <likewise> lyakh: hmm, remember i2c problems as well, I think customer just lowered the clock without looking into it (This *was* a rush job, you can tell from the code...)
  • [15:27:41] <lyakh> below 100kHz?
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  • [15:29:51] <koen> if you use the stock beagle uboot it will have setup the pullups for you
  • [15:30:06] <lyakh> yes, now the signal looks better
  • [15:30:12] <lyakh> looks like the pull ups are there
  • [15:30:42] <lyakh> now, I think, the camera doesn't ack its address, anyone knows, how an i2c ack should look like?
  • [15:31:10] <koen> likewise lives close to philipstown, he should know :)
  • [15:32:02] <likewise> lyakh, koen: maybe two sets of pull-ups are active (in BB + on board)?
  • [15:32:23] <lyakh> likewise: no, nothing on the board
  • [15:32:31] <likewise> koen: :-)
  • [15:33:08] <likewise> koen: In fact, I am occupying their old "Apparatenfabriek" now: http://www.sidebranch.nl/strijp-s
  • [15:33:55] <lyakh> hm, I think, there is an ack...
  • [15:34:39] <koen> likewise: close to the police station :)
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  • [15:34:56] <ac> koen: thanks a lot. I got ifconfig in sbin.
  • [15:40:10] <ac> I used pre-built Angstrom image and originally the firefox web browser showed "Server not found". After I changed the firefox settting network.dns.disableIPv6 to true, I can browse the webs. Did I do it right way?
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  • [15:51:54] <koen> jkridner|work: I gave up on waiting for chairs a few hours ago
  • [15:52:09] <av500> throwing chairs?
  • [15:52:41] <koen> according to the lady in the phone kridner is the chairperson
  • [15:53:01] <koen> so we could throw kridner, he doesn't weigh that much
  • [15:53:21] <koen> is gitorious giving dns errors for other people as well?
  • [15:54:04] <av500> the free or the paid version?
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  • [15:54:27] <av500> "DNS service for this domain has expired with DNS Made Easy"
  • [15:54:41] <av500> thats for hostin' wikileaks in a git
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  • [16:26:26] <pupnik> http://87.238.52.168/
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  • [19:49:24] <djlewis_> gm
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  • [20:04:36] <_av500_> gm
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  • [20:13:27] <djlewis_> christmas is coming, the goose is getting fat ....
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  • [20:14:20] <djlewis_> la la la next verse please .. only one per person :)
  • [20:14:57] <_av500_> lalalala, does xm have nand?
  • [20:15:26] <djlewis_> some do
  • [20:15:55] <djlewis_> be it ever so worthless to the user
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  • [20:28:17] <mru> djlewis_: is that a fat12 the right kind of goose for christmas?
  • [20:29:34] <djlewis_> what are we here, a bunch of geek heads or what? ;)
  • [20:30:52] <mru> no, we're professionals
  • [20:31:40] <djlewis_> :)
  • [20:32:17] <djlewis_> no one is paying attention, they dont care how bad you sing.
  • [20:32:26] <djlewis_> come on the second verse guys ...
  • [20:34:16] <lyakh> YESSSSS!!!:) ok, got i2c to the sensor:)
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  • [20:39:41] <djlewis_> lyakh: cool
  • [20:40:01] <lyakh> djlewis_: indeed:)
  • [20:40:16] <djlewis_> I too wanna see that 5mp working
  • [20:40:49] <lyakh> well, now it's just a matter of software:)
  • [20:42:35] <lyakh> I'm glad I haven't fried anything, however hard I tried to short-circuit as many pins as possible at once with my scope probe;)
  • [20:43:40] <djlewis_> yes, those are some tiny little groupings of pins on that header
  • [20:44:37] <lyakh> ...and the camera module is not very stable in that connector...
  • [20:46:56] <djlewis_> hmm, so ultimately a anchor brace is in order?
  • [20:47:34] <lyakh> yep, something like that would definitely have helped;)
  • [20:48:00] <_av500_> the 5mp has af?
  • [20:48:41] <lyakh> _av500_: autofocus? don't think so, a pretty primitive sensor from Aptina
  • [20:48:42] <djlewis_> so unlike a .1" spaced socket, this one is not as deep to hold by pins? looking at pictures here.
  • [20:49:40] <lyakh> well, it holds the module pretty well, but when you apply pressure with your probe...
  • [20:49:53] <lyakh> it moves enough for the probe to slide...
  • [20:50:29] <koen> lyakh: the extra gpios in the connector spec are for things like AF
  • [20:50:40] <koen> but I don't think the xM routes gpios to the connector
  • [20:51:43] <lyakh> but it's probably just my fingers, useful only to press those buttons on keyboards;)
  • [20:52:18] <lyakh> koen: extra GPIOs? I only see 12 data lines, ground, power supplies, syncs and a field signal abused for reset...
  • [20:52:40] <lyakh> you mean, if you only connect an 8-bit sensor?
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  • [21:07:10] <rajesh> hello, anyone running debian testing on a beagle?
  • [21:07:40] <koen> lyakh: there should be a few spares for GPIO according to LI
  • [21:07:47] <koen> but that might be for 8 bit sensors
  • [21:08:01] <koen> I have seen too many versions of the 'spec'...
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  • [21:08:37] <lyakh> rajesh: yes, somebody is
  • [21:08:56] <mikkelbg> What hardware do I need to connect a RS-485 protocol to the beagleboard?
  • [21:09:18] <rajesh> heh, shoulda said 'anyone here'
  • [21:09:19] <koen> a few wires
  • [21:09:26] <lyakh> radhermit: me
  • [21:09:27] <rajesh> thanks, though.
  • [21:09:29] <lyakh> oops
  • [21:09:34] <lyakh> rajesh: ^^
  • [21:09:35] <rajesh> ahh cool.
  • [21:10:00] <rajesh> is there an online reference to read through for the install?
  • [21:10:13] <lyakh> don't know any
  • [21:10:31] <rajesh> just got me a xm and i'm thinking of replacing my sheevaplug that's running debian testing with this one.
  • [21:10:37] <koen> if you are going to use debian, get a mini2440
  • [21:10:43] <koen> that's armv4t
  • [21:12:12] <mru> if you're going to use debian, get a bridge
  • [21:13:20] <rajesh> there's no compulsion to use debian (just what i default to personally.) what would be the easiest path for the xm?
  • [21:14:15] <rajesh> i see this ... http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian
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  • [22:01:55] <x-mas> hi all
  • [22:04:42] <x-mas> i tried to encoding with x264 on beagleboard. But its very slowly. is anybody worked with x264?
  • [22:05:50] <mru> try --preset ultrafast
  • [22:06:04] <mru> that won't give the best quality of course
  • [22:07:46] <x-mas> can i use dsp module ?
  • [22:08:13] <mru> not with x264
  • [22:08:18] <mru> and the dsp is not magic either
  • [22:11:24] <_av500_> about realtime for vga i would say
  • [22:12:12] <x-mas> i want to real-time encoding with webcam, do you know how the best way ?
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  • [22:14:04] <_av500_> dsp
  • [22:14:37] <x-mas> x264 support dsp_?
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  • [22:16:04] <_av500_> no
  • [22:17:17] <_av500_> use the dsp not x264
  • [22:18:17] <x-mas> understand, i must research dsp module..
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  • [22:20:13] <x-mas> where can i get more information about dsp?
  • [22:21:13] <_av500_> look for dsplink, codec engine and dmai
  • [22:21:35] <lixian> Hello, santa clouse.
  • [22:22:21] <x-mas> thanks.. after encoding i want to cross compile opencv is it difficult?
  • [22:23:02] <_av500_> no
  • [22:23:08] <_av500_> its already done
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  • [22:27:23] <djlewis_> ol, our ol friend opencv
  • [22:27:46] <_av500_> its xmas, so it gets thrown a bone
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  • [22:38:35] <ds2> HmmmmMMMMMM
  • [22:40:22] <djlewis_> a big'un today...
  • [22:43:39] <lixian> djlewis_: What are you gonna do tomorrow?
  • [22:44:04] <lixian> Throw the bones?
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  • [22:54:52] <djlewis_> lixian: sure, i'll toss some bones for yaif it will help, but my last response was for ds2
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