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  • [01:14:08] <aholler> cwicks: why not using a pandaboard?
  • [01:14:38] <cwillu_at_work> doubletakes
  • [01:15:12] <aholler> or just use usb-stick.
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  • [01:16:52] <aholler> it's easier to switch a stick than a board if the driver is unusable. ;)
  • [01:20:44] <cwicks> aholler: student has some beagle code dev for robots
  • [01:21:14] <aholler> beagle code?
  • [01:21:54] <aholler> ;)
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  • [06:24:18] <ds2> since someone asked...
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  • [06:26:30] <Animule> nomnomnomnom!
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  • [07:12:32] <jluxenberg> I
  • [07:13:01] <jluxenberg> I'm trying to update my kernel-vmlinux package with a custom kernel I have built, but opkg is complaining about an md5sum mismatch
  • [07:13:25] <jluxenberg> I can't seem to find out where the mismatch is happening; I don't know if the package I built is bad, or if something else is wrong
  • [07:13:48] <jluxenberg> does anyone know what opkg is comparing when taking this checksum?
  • [07:15:09] <jluxenberg> I have a feeling its because my custom kernel is using the same "version" as the previous one
  • [07:15:18] <jluxenberg> is there any way to change the version number of my custom kernel?
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  • [07:25:41] <ksinkar> does anyone know of any authoratative link on the comparison of all buses used in embedded systems
  • [07:30:05] <ds2> Double deckers or single?
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  • [07:46:12] <jluxenberg> is anyone here using a leopard camera with their beagleboard?
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  • [08:24:32] <tasslehoff> koen: Is the beagleboard-validation ('koen/beagle-2010.12') repo a good remote for a local u-boot repository? I need to do a bit of coding, and would like to have "real code" instead of OE patches.
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  • [08:29:22] <hadara> I see a strange time problem on my B4 running debian squeeze with 2.6.35.[89] kernels (havent tried any others latelly) - basically the clock seems to randomly jump ahead by several hours, sometimes as much as 48 hours in a single jump
  • [08:30:32] <hadara> but between the jumps it seems to have no noticeable skew
  • [08:32:43] <hadara> there's nothing suspicious in the logs too, besides the bootup messages telling 65 unused clocks have been disabled, but I guess that's normal?
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  • [08:50:07] <ggreer> ok, I have a cunning plan. beagleboard + myvu crystal + twiddler + batteries = awesome wearable computer
  • [08:50:19] <ggreer> and by cunning plan I mean at least two other people have done this and I'm going to copy them
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  • [08:55:50] <av500> what is cunning about that?
  • [08:57:57] <ggreer> it's a reference to blackadder
  • [08:58:21] <tdh2002> copy Plagiarism?
  • [08:59:02] <ggreer> both of the other people didn't work on the most important part though: the user interface
  • [08:59:45] <ggreer> a wearable UI has many of the constraints of a smartphone, but is in some ways even stricter
  • [08:59:50] <av500> maybe because that was the :effort: bit
  • [08:59:52] <ggreer> yep
  • [09:00:13] <ggreer> so my plan is to at least try that part. I've already sunk about 20 hours into learning the twiddler
  • [09:02:12] <av500> well, then a cmdline is all you need...
  • [09:03:55] <tdh2002> I am working with GTK to make embedded UI on our product!
  • [09:04:21] <ggreer> I think wearables are most useful for certain niches. for example, it's not uncommon for me to want to look something up on wikipedia, but I don't want to pull out my laptop or iphone
  • [09:04:48] <ggreer> but if I had a local cache of wikipedia and a microdisplay mounted on my glasses, I might be more likely to make a note or look up the thing I'm curious about
  • [09:06:18] <av500> ggreer: you can have wikipedia on your wrist: http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/liveview
  • [09:06:33] <ggreer> my only annoyance toying around with a local cache of wikipedia on my netbook is that mediawiki's wikimarkup -> html conversion is written in php
  • [09:06:36] <ggreer> and it's dog slow
  • [09:06:57] <ggreer> so either I need to find a better parser or build my own :/
  • [09:07:10] <ggreer> heh, neat
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  • [09:15:32] <ggreer> I really do think that inconveniences shape our lives to a large extent, and that smaller embedded devices are one of the best ways to make things more convenient
  • [09:15:52] <ggreer> for example, almost all the knowledge in wikipedia existed before wikipedia, but going to the library is such a chore compared to typing a few characters in your browser
  • [09:18:24] <koen> tasslehoff: what's unreal about OE patches?
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  • [10:05:37] <tasslehoff> koen: nothing, I just meant that it's simpler to work with than it is to capture changes to OE recipes, at least if I'm gonna do a lot of coding.
  • [10:10:19] <koen> git am *.patch ?
  • [10:10:28] <koen> that git tree is just that
  • [10:13:44] <gregoiregentil1> when I run gst-launch ... TIViddec2 ! omapdmaifbsink, I get a "failed to create dmai framecopy hadle" in omapdmaifbsink. I have read the code but I'm confused. Everything else related to dsp-link seems correct (if I use fakesink).
  • [10:13:46] <gregoiregentil1> Any idea?
  • [10:13:53] <gregoiregentil1> could it be my cmem pool wrong?
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  • [10:15:23] <tasslehoff> koen: ah. never used git am.
  • [10:15:47] <gregoiregentil1> the cmem pools is a little bit confusing because there are many suggestions in the load*module*sh files of the various /ti/*bb and they are not the same.
  • [10:19:21] <av500> gregoiregentil1: just drop the pool and use one large heap
  • [10:19:32] <av500> that way you dont have to worry about all the buffer sizes
  • [10:24:53] <gregoiregentil1> av500: Thanks. I appreciate the answer but I'm more confused! What do you suggest to put after modprobe cmemk phys_start=0x86300000 phys_end=0x8730000?
  • [10:25:12] <gregoiregentil1> because if I put nothing, obviously, I get a getPool failed message
  • [10:25:13] <av500> what do you have atm?
  • [10:25:42] <gregoiregentil1> /sbin/modprobe cmemk allowOverlap=1 phys_start=0x86300000 phys_end=0x87300000 pools=1x5250000,6x829440,1x345600,1x691200,1x1
  • [10:26:07] <av500> hmm
  • [10:26:30] <gregoiregentil1> hmm like it makes sense and something else is screwed or hmm like it doesn't make sense :-)
  • [10:26:50] <av500> no, its looks ok
  • [10:27:11] <av500> but with pools, your buffer sizes used have to match the pools you created
  • [10:27:52] <av500> actually, if you dont give any pools= it should use all for heap, thats how I read the cmem docs
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  • [10:38:26] <gregoiregentil1> Koen: which version of ti-dmai are you using? Is ti-dmai-1_2_10_00_01+svnr570-r78 supposed to work?
  • [10:39:03] <koen> the default one in OE
  • [10:39:46] <gregoiregentil1> according to your git, it's this one but I wanted to double confirm
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  • [10:47:10] <av500> pinchartl: did it work?
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  • [10:47:29] <av500> gregoiregentil1: did you try with no pools?
  • [10:47:30] <av500> gregoiregentil1: did you try with no pools=
  • [10:47:41] <gregoiregentil1> yes, not working :-(
  • [10:47:53] <av500> with what error?
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  • [10:49:20] <koen> and I just used the loadmodules that comes with gst-ti in OE
  • [10:50:35] <gregoiregentil1> I'm trying again. One minute...
  • [10:52:17] <pinchartl> av500: I haven't had time to try it yet. hopefully today
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  • [11:37:06] <jkridner|work> good morning all
  • [11:37:14] <av500> gm
  • [11:37:43] <jkridner|work> hi av500!
  • [11:38:54] <av500> jkridner|work: you can now put angstrom on gen8: http://www.openaos.org/archives/654
  • [11:41:49] <jkridner|work> excellent.
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  • [11:53:19] <aholler> hmm, kde by touch?
  • [11:53:41] <aholler> have the same here, unusable ;)
  • [11:57:05] <aholler> maybe meego will help there, somedays
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  • [12:03:25] <av500> aholler: kde by touch?
  • [12:04:22] <aholler> the third picture looks like kde
  • [12:04:46] <av500> nom some other wm
  • [12:04:48] <av500> no,
  • [12:05:02] <av500> still unusuable with capa touch
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  • [12:06:52] <aholler> for meego I've seen xfce, bu I assume it's unusable by touch too ;)
  • [12:07:12] <ynezz> SHR!
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  • [13:20:35] <PiRANiA_> Hi all, I was here yesterday about my beagleboardXM revB connected to my Philips TV, not giving correct output: "Unsupported video format".
  • [13:20:45] <av500> yes
  • [13:20:49] <PiRANiA_> I use this kernel now (ubuntu): ubuntu@omap:~$ uname -a Linux omap 2.6.35.9-l9 #1 PREEMPT Fri Dec 3 00:59:50 UTC 2010 armv7l GNU/Linux
  • [13:21:11] <PiRANiA_> thought upgrading to a newer kernel would work..
  • [13:21:16] <PiRANiA_> It did not...
  • [13:22:05] <PiRANiA_> setenv dvimode hd720
  • [13:22:11] <PiRANiA_> what else can I try? :)
  • [13:22:18] <mru> ubuntu kernel might not know of that mode
  • [13:22:25] <av500> PiRANiA_: cat /sys/devices/platform/omapdss/display0/timings
  • [13:22:53] <PiRANiA_> ubuntu@omap:~$ cat /sys/devices/platform/omapdss/display0/timings 72000,1280/220/110/40,720/20/5/5
  • [13:23:20] <aholler> PiRANiA_: as already written yesterday, try 1024x768-16@60 or such
  • [13:24:46] <mru> that's not likely to work with a TV
  • [13:25:12] <aholler> I assume he has a manual of his tv
  • [13:25:25] <mru> I'd be surprised if the manual contained that information
  • [13:26:00] <PiRANiA_> http://download.p4c.philips.com/files/3/32pfl5403d_f7/32pfl5403d_f7_dfu_aen.pdf [3.94 MB PDF]
  • [13:27:01] <PiRANiA_> 1024 x 768 60Hz should work (page 25) but the mode you just gave me does not work
  • [13:27:02] <mru> I'd get an edid dump from the tv using a pc
  • [13:27:49] <mru> that table doesn't contain the exact timings it supports
  • [13:29:00] <PiRANiA_> wow, how do I start for a EDID?
  • [13:29:06] <av500> and that timing is not the one we use
  • [13:29:19] <mru> do you have a PC you can connect to it?
  • [13:29:24] <mru> one running linux
  • [13:29:30] <PiRANiA_> Connect via ?
  • [13:29:32] <aholler> discussing here takes longer than trying out a few modes.
  • [13:29:36] <PiRANiA_> yes, my laptop
  • [13:29:36] <mru> a cable, duh
  • [13:29:43] <PiRANiA_> 'a cable'? ;)
  • [13:29:47] <PiRANiA_> HDMI?
  • [13:29:56] <mru> does your laptop have hdmi out?
  • [13:29:59] <PiRANiA_> yes
  • [13:30:23] <mru> good
  • [13:30:42] <mru> connect it to the TV, then run "X -probeonly -logverbose 6 :1"
  • [13:30:42] <av500> the 72000 clock looks wrong
  • [13:30:47] <av500> it should be 74250
  • [13:31:02] <mru> probably using the wrong clock source
  • [13:31:18] <mru> i.e. not the dsi dpll
  • [13:31:34] <PiRANiA_> Fatal server error: Unrecognized option: -probeonly
  • [13:31:54] <mru> what crazy X version are you running?
  • [13:32:33] <av500> mru: yes, I guess thats it
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  • [13:33:02] <mru> so the solution is to get a proper kernel
  • [13:33:10] <mru> such as the angstrom one
  • [13:33:49] <aholler> PiRANiA_: p. 37 says up to wuxga, so 1024 should be ok. ever tested that?
  • [13:34:05] <PiRANiA_> [14:23] <aholler> PiRANiA_: as already written yesterday, try 1024x768-16@60 or such
  • [13:34:07] <PiRANiA_> I did that
  • [13:34:15] <mru> aholler: the manual doesn't mention exact timings
  • [13:34:16] <PiRANiA_> And I don't know what X version I am running
  • [13:34:29] <aholler> 24hz-60hz
  • [13:34:30] <PiRANiA_> (I also don't know anything about 'timing')
  • [13:34:58] <mru> aholler: that's most likely bollox
  • [13:35:19] <PiRANiA_> man X says: X Version 11
  • [13:35:29] <mru> my bet is it supports a narrow range around 24Hz, 30Hz, 50Hz and 60Hz
  • [13:35:41] <mru> and the vertical refresh rate isn't all
  • [13:35:46] <PiRANiA_> so what/how should I try?
  • [13:35:55] <mru> try an angstrom demo image
  • [13:36:55] <PiRANiA_> That should give me the correct settings? :)
  • [13:37:05] <mru> maybe
  • [13:37:14] <mru> it's a simple enough thing to try
  • [13:38:46] <aholler> PiRANiA_: just to be sure, check cat /proc/cmdline about what the kernel gets as mode
  • [13:40:46] <PiRANiA_> ubuntu@omap:~$ cat /proc/cmdline console=ttyS2,115200n8 console=tty0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootwait ro vram=12MB om apfb.mode=dvi:1024x768-16@60 fixrtc buddy=none mpurate=800
  • [13:40:55] <PiRANiA_> I'll try the angstrom
  • [13:42:40] <PiRANiA_> FYI: $ sudo X -version X.Org X Server 1.9.0
  • [13:42:52] <aholler> wondering about that fixrtc, I've just come across that: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/linux/+bug/663642
  • [13:43:33] <aholler> maybe updating your ubunut will help
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  • [13:49:54] <PiRANiA_> $ sudo apt-get upgrade ; 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
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  • [13:50:02] <PiRANiA_> I already updated
  • [13:50:02] <PiRANiA_> ;)
  • [13:50:10] <aholler> and you are using the new kernel?
  • [13:50:36] <aholler> I don't know how ubuntu handles kernel-updates on arm
  • [13:50:40] <PiRANiA_> $ uname -a Linux omap 2.6.35.9-l9
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  • [13:54:04] <aholler> i don't know how ubuntu numbers his kernels so you have to look yourself if that is at least newer than the one mentioned in the bug as fixed
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  • [14:08:54] <PiRANiA_> What is the easiest way to install angstrom?
  • [14:10:03] <koen> narcissus and common sense
  • [14:10:29] <av500> PiRANiA_: or just use the demo image
  • [14:10:41] <PiRANiA_> which one should I download?
  • [14:10:47] <PiRANiA_> Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2010.3-beagleboard.rootfs.tar.bz2
  • [14:12:02] <mru> koen: common sense is surprisingly difficult for some people
  • [14:12:46] <PiRANiA_> I'll just follow this: http://goo.gl/ZmHd8 :)
  • [14:12:47] <PiRANiA_> tx
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  • [14:13:21] <koen> if it's a wiki, it's outdated by definition
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  • [14:13:59] <koen> PiRANiA_: have a look at the instructions at the bottom of http://goo.gl/ZmHd8
  • [14:14:00] <av500> PiRANiA_: just get the 2GB sd image and bunzip2 it onto a card
  • [14:14:02] <koen> ehm
  • [14:14:10] <koen> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
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  • [14:14:28] <mru> s/pastebuffers//
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  • [14:15:09] <av500> koen: so, you are a sector 63 cargo culter as well....
  • [14:15:30] <Crofton|work> av500, write better instructions for partitioning a card :)
  • [14:16:19] <av500> Crofton|work: I wrote a sw that checks the partitioning, so you try random approaches until my SW says "PASS" :)
  • [14:16:35] <av500> its called monte carlo formatting
  • [14:16:57] <Crofton|work> rofl
  • [14:17:13] <Crofton|work> 9 times out of ten the cargo cult approach works :)
  • [14:17:29] <av500> no, xora script works always
  • [14:17:41] <av500> sinceit has magic cylinder "9"
  • [14:17:54] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [14:17:55] <mru> yes, random
  • [14:18:11] <av500> well, 7 and 11 would also work
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  • [14:18:20] <av500> and 3 or 5
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  • [14:18:56] <PiRANiA> stupid hotkeys
  • [14:18:58] <PiRANiA> sorry
  • [14:19:15] <PiRANiA> Should I use the 338MB image from http://goo.gl/wvFvf ? Just dd it to the SD?
  • [14:20:50] <av500> bunzip2 -c img.bz2 > /dev/sdX
  • [14:21:01] <av500> make sure /dev/sdX is not your root hdd :)
  • [14:21:08] <PiRANiA> ;)
  • [14:21:12] <mru> or any other hdd
  • [14:21:17] <PiRANiA> Will try, thanks :)
  • [14:21:34] <mru> friend of mine made that mistake once
  • [14:21:37] <mru> but only once
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  • [14:22:23] <av500> frien of mine used a text editor to find pieces of his thesis on his deleted ext2
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  • [14:23:23] <aholler> oh, the forget to teach them what backup means? ;)
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  • [14:25:10] <av500> whats is backup?
  • [14:25:26] <av500> well, of course I save my files to the hdd, in case the PC loses power...
  • [14:25:27] <aholler> raid 0 ;)
  • [14:25:34] <mru> opposite of frontdown (aka nosedive)
  • [14:25:41] <buZz> av500: when it was down first, and you bring it back up
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  • [14:37:07] <tasslehoff> I need a command to find out which device my current rootfs. Anyone got a better way than grepping dmesg for the root= argument of my kernel command line?
  • [14:38:53] <aholler> cat /proc/cmdline
  • [14:39:41] <mru> ls -l /dev/root
  • [14:40:19] <mru> root can be changed, you know
  • [14:42:13] <PiRANiA> just type mount?
  • [14:44:07] <tasslehoff> I know, but I really hope it's not ;). I have /dev/rootfs1 and /dev/rootfs2 and a marker on /media/boot saying what to mount. Now I'm fiddling with a lowlevel-recovery. With help from the userbutton I have started the "inactive" image, and I want it to toggle the marker.
  • [14:45:02] <tasslehoff> mount doesn't give the info I need, and apparently I don't have /dev/root
  • [14:46:58] <tasslehoff> I think aholler gave me what I need, since what I'm trying to find out is what u-boot said was to be root
  • [14:49:42] <cwillu_at_work> tasslehoff, fw_printenv may show you how it's determining which to boot, and fw_setenv may then allow you to change it
  • [14:50:37] <tasslehoff> cwillu_at_work: except that I have a board with mmc only, and no u-boot environment other than the built in :)
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  • [15:25:41] <HokieTux> just to double check, people have successfully gotten mini-screens working the bb over USB, right?
  • [15:25:56] <av500> yes
  • [15:25:57] <HokieTux> (I believe I read that koen did it with some screen or another)
  • [15:26:01] <av500> displaylink based ones
  • [15:26:04] <av500> yes
  • [15:26:17] <av500> http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/3748865129/
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  • [15:33:27] <HokieTux> oh awesome
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  • [15:36:20] <HokieTux> thanks, av500
  • [15:37:00] <buZz> does anyone know if the seagate dockstar has USB2 or USB1?
  • [15:38:02] <buZz> it looks to be usb2 from the lsusb output and all the online references i find, but i'm only getting USB1 speeds
  • [15:38:31] <buZz> i'm getting a lot of
  • [15:38:31] <buZz> usb 1-1.2: not running at top speed; connect to a high speed hub
  • [15:38:34] <buZz> in dmesg
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  • [15:39:11] <mru> message seems clear enough to me
  • [15:39:51] <buZz> yeah, but the internal hub should be usb2
  • [15:39:51] <mru> are you getting this message on the dockstar when connecting things to it?
  • [15:40:13] <buZz> you think it might have to do with hold/coldplugging?
  • [15:40:16] <mru> no
  • [15:40:25] <mru> make sure you have ehci-hcd module loaded
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  • [15:40:37] <mru> otherwise the ohci might be stepping in
  • [15:40:53] <sakoman_> tasslehoff: perhaps a bit late, but the rdev command should give you what you want
  • [15:40:57] <buZz> lsusb only shows one Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
  • [15:41:12] <buZz> but my normal pc has that one , and a lot of Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
  • [15:41:21] <PiRANiA__> I am getting really tired because of my angstrom image :(
  • [15:41:26] <PiRANiA__> # dd if='/home/karlo/Images/Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2010.3-beagleboard.sd-image-2GiB.img' of=/dev/sdb bs=32k
  • [15:41:28] <PiRANiA__> done
  • [15:41:35] <PiRANiA__> And I plug in the SD to the beagleboard
  • [15:41:48] <PiRANiA__> a couple of question marks (I guess wrong speed), and then: nothing
  • [15:41:56] <buZz> CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=y
  • [15:42:08] <buZz> in my /proc/config.gz , so it seems to be loaded?
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  • [15:42:19] <buZz> also CONFIG_USB_OHCI_HCD=y
  • [15:42:48] <mru> looks correct
  • [15:42:54] <mru> pastebin the full dmesg
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  • [15:44:17] <buZz> http://etc.servehttp.com/entireoutput also ok? or do you really want pastebin :D
  • [15:44:45] <buZz> bah @ mimetypes :S
  • [15:44:46] <mru> if that's the kernel log, then that's what I need
  • [15:44:51] <mru> I don't care where you put it
  • [15:44:55] <buZz> :)
  • [15:45:10] <buZz> http://etc.servehttp.com/entireoutput.txt
  • [15:45:20] <buZz> (so you dont have to download it)
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  • [15:48:08] <mru> hmm, weird
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  • [15:49:48] <buZz> ah, see this : http://plugcomputer.org/plugforum/index.php?PHPSESSID=7d162c6103a65ffb042e9668a7afab77&topic=1777.msg10816#msg10816
  • [15:50:08] <buZz> its a bit weird though, maybe i should reboot into the default pogothingy and check the speed
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  • [15:50:34] <buZz> still i would expect this to just work
  • [15:50:49] <mru> I wouldn't
  • [15:50:51] <mru> it's usb
  • [15:50:59] <buZz> hehe
  • [15:51:12] <buZz> usb on arm always has a weird taste to it, i agree :P
  • [15:51:25] <mru> usb everywhere, I'd say
  • [15:52:44] <buZz> only problem i have on my x86 laptop is that i get zapped by the shielding :D
  • [15:54:16] <buZz> maybe one of the usb devices is slowing the rest down ..
  • [15:54:27] <mru> that shouldn't happen
  • [15:54:32] <mru> usb doesn't work like that
  • [15:55:27] <tasslehoff> sakoman_: never too late. thanks :)
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  • [16:04:58] <aholler> buZz: it's usb2
  • [16:06:07] <aholler> and 30mb/s is good for usb-hds
  • [16:07:36] <buZz> i get 1MB/sec
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  • [16:19:27] <aholler> there once was a problem that ohci/uhci probed devices before ehci, but that was fixed some years ago ;)
  • [16:21:32] <mru> the kernel messages suggest it was picked up by ehci
  • [16:22:34] <aholler> I've seen that. just wanted to bring up a ancient story ;)
  • [16:23:17] <aholler> maybe the sata<->usb dongle is braindead or similiar.
  • [16:24:06] <aholler> or he is really using a usb 1.x hub
  • [16:24:38] <av500> aholler: you know, there were kernel without usb in the past :)
  • [16:25:37] <aholler> hehe, I still have that udev-rules for ehci/uhci/ohci-order here ;)
  • [16:26:04] <aholler> aholler@laptopahvpn ~ $ cat /etc/modprobe.d/ehci-fix
  • [16:26:04] <aholler> # Prevent the kernel-message "Warning! ehci_hcd should always be loaded before uhci_hcd and ohci_hcd, not after"
  • [16:26:07] <aholler> install uhci-hcd /sbin/modprobe ehci-hcd ; /sbin/modprobe -i uhci-hcd
  • [16:26:10] <aholler> install ohci-hcd /sbin/modprobe ehci-hcd ; /sbin/modprobe -i ohci-hcd
  • [16:26:12] <aholler> ;)
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  • [16:42:13] <xxiao> will leopard imaging's 1.3M camera connect to beagle XM directly? do I need buy anything else?
  • [16:42:35] <av500> i think it does
  • [16:42:39] <av500> the only issue is sw
  • [16:43:13] <xxiao> hmm...can u be more specific?
  • [16:44:15] <xxiao> i am not sure if OMAP3530's camera interface is enabled in kernel yet
  • [16:44:26] <av500> as I said, SW
  • [16:44:33] <xxiao> let me check on that...
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  • [17:02:09] <fredim> Hi, good afternoon! The LED's usr0 and usr1 are off, why?
  • [17:02:28] <av500> no current flowing thru them?
  • [17:03:03] <fredim> no
  • [17:05:00] <koen> so there's current flowing thru and they are still off?
  • [17:05:10] <av500> dark current?
  • [17:05:34] * Crofton|work thinks someone should run some electrons through the trolls
  • [17:06:55] <fredim> The pwr LED lights, and the usr0 usr1 not lit, then nand erase command
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  • [17:10:51] <fredim> is normal these LEDs do not light?
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  • [17:33:21] <EEWeb> just wanted to throw a bone out to the Beagle Board community... We'd love to have you document some BeagleBoard projects on EEWeb
  • [17:33:59] <av500> fredim: i dont know
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  • [19:09:47] <fredim> How do I fix the following problem: When I connect via serial, the answer is "40w" (minicom)
  • [19:10:06] <mru> does it bother you?
  • [19:12:25] <fredim> sorry, I missed
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  • [19:50:53] <iCodeRaven> Hey people!
  • [19:51:28] <iCodeRaven> Right, anyone tried changing the resolution on the xm yet?
  • [19:51:38] <iCodeRaven> the angstrom build
  • [19:51:46] <av500> edit boot.scr
  • [19:52:03] <emeb> autoexec.bat!
  • [19:52:12] <iCodeRaven> okay
  • [19:52:15] <av500> win.ini
  • [19:52:20] <iCodeRaven> so there, in the video mode line?
  • [19:52:38] <av500> yes
  • [19:52:42] <iCodeRaven> ty :)
  • [19:52:46] <av500> and then that mkimage dance
  • [19:52:53] <iCodeRaven> oink? what?
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  • [19:54:10] <iCodeRaven> oh, and i dont have a boot.scr in my load partition :/
  • [19:54:28] <iCodeRaven> I have just 3 files - MLO, u-boot.bin and uImage
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  • [19:54:35] <av500> then it uses the default
  • [19:54:39] <av500> whatever that is
  • [19:54:40] <iCodeRaven> (Pardon my dumbness - I'm pretty new to all this)
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  • [19:56:13] <iCodeRaven> So, do I copy the boot.scr that I got on the card that shipped with the board, and edit that?
  • [19:59:50] <iCodeRaven> I tried using the setenv thing in the boot time console, but apparently, as the xm doesnt have NAND (or so I gathered) it cant save anything to the NAND, so remains stuck there
  • [20:00:17] <av500> well, setenv works for one boot
  • [20:00:21] <av500> its just not permanent
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  • [20:01:47] <iCodeRaven> Okay, so to make it permanent I need a file in the boot partition, the .scr one?
  • [20:01:57] <av500> yes
  • [20:02:04] <av500> or you build your own uboot
  • [20:02:55] <iCodeRaven> So, by building my own uboot you mean all the cross compiling thing, right?
  • [20:03:43] <av500> yes
  • [20:03:47] <iCodeRaven> hm
  • [20:04:21] <iCodeRaven> The whole thing's so cool, but so frustrating :)
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  • [20:04:26] <av500> making boot.scr is easier
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  • [20:06:36] <iCodeRaven> Oh, never came across this mkImage thing. Hmmmm
  • [20:09:49] <ibm> hey..i need some help here..i wanted to get a hub for the beagle board..i saw one at amazon for 25$ and its called"Nu USB 2.0 3-Port Hub with Ethernet Adapter"..will it work..has anyone used it..
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  • [20:14:06] <iCodeRaven> av500: Sorry, where do I run the mkimage again?
  • [20:15:17] <av500> iCodeRaven: i dont know
  • [20:15:19] <av500> google it
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  • [20:16:39] <iCodeRaven> av500: Yeah, so I got this shell script : http://gitorious.org/beagleboard-default-u-boot/jason-clone/blobs/for-khasim-rebase/mkbootscr
  • [20:16:48] <iCodeRaven> av500: So where do I run this, ie
  • [20:16:57] <av500> i dont know
  • [20:17:00] <av500> i never ran it
  • [20:17:33] <av500> and this look wrong
  • [20:17:43] <av500> you are no khasim
  • [20:17:45] <av500> not
  • [20:17:52] <av500> and it says "for khasim"
  • [20:17:58] <iCodeRaven> haha
  • [20:18:05] <iCodeRaven> okay
  • [20:19:45] <iCodeRaven> How do you go about it then? i.e. editing the boot.scr?
  • [20:20:38] <av500> vi boot.src
  • [20:20:40] <av500> vi boot.scr
  • [20:21:36] <iCodeRaven> ah
  • [20:21:54] <ibm> Nu USB 2.0 3-Port Hub with Ethernet Adapter.... anyone..will it work
  • [20:22:41] <iCodeRaven> av500: gotcha! Ty :)
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  • [20:41:14] <jkridner|work> hi iCodeRaven ...
  • [20:41:30] <jkridner|work> if you have an xM board, the on-SD image includes an 'editbootscr' script.
  • [20:41:49] <jkridner|work> it is based on a 'dd' hack originated by the Canonical guys.
  • [20:42:13] <jkridner|work> you need the u-boot 'mkimage' tool to produce a new boot.scr file.
  • [20:43:56] <jkridner|work> iCodeRaven: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/msg/e5ebfcc8125992e3?pli=1
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  • [20:59:20] <muriani> jkridner|work: lemme guess, it dd's out everything past the header, opens in editor, and then mkimage's the script again?
  • [20:59:47] <jkridner|work> muriani: yes, it is just that simple.
  • [21:00:16] <jkridner|work> but, instead of explaining each step, I can tell someone to type 'editbootscr' in the console window.
  • [21:00:27] <jkridner|work> I might have to tell them 'export EDITOR=vi' as well.
  • [21:00:28] <muriani> right
  • [21:03:15] * av500 is still amazed about how much time is being lost on stuff like this
  • [21:03:46] <muriani> heh
  • [21:04:00] <jkridner|work> too many answers using Google.... not sure which one to use.
  • [21:04:20] <muriani> that's part of why I lurked as long as possible before getting a beagle
  • [21:04:35] <jkridner|work> koen: any updates to the software release? shall I take the token to fix the USB-power crash again?
  • [21:04:41] <muriani> so I didn't waste time futzing around with that.
  • [21:04:55] <av500> jkridner|work: gee, a year has passed already?
  • [21:05:48] <jkridner|work> now, now, I accomplish at least 2 tasks a year.
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  • [21:06:59] <jkridner|work> I know it *should* only take about 2 hours (or 12 hours for a clean build), but then what time would I have to use Google Reader?
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  • [21:09:26] <cwillu_at_work> what's the package of c97, c85, c76, c77, c83, etc on the beagle c4 called?
  • [21:09:50] <cwillu_at_work> i.e., with the whole rim on each side as a lead
  • [21:11:10] * cwillu_at_work uploads a picture of what he's talking about
  • [21:12:54] <cwillu_at_work> http://i.imgur.com/rDt1q.jpg
  • [21:13:06] <cwillu_at_work> (that's about 3mm by 1mm)
  • [21:13:48] * cwillu_at_work pokes jkridner|work with a stick, he might know
  • [21:13:59] * jkridner|work looks a the BOM.
  • [21:15:01] <jkridner|work> cwillu_at_work: 0805
  • [21:15:11] <cwillu_at_work> :/
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  • [21:16:14] <jkridner|work> Per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface-mount_technology: 0805 (2012 metric)??: 0.08" ?? 0.05" (2.0 mm ?? 1.25 mm) Typical power rating for resistors 1/10 or 1/8 watt
  • [21:16:27] <cwillu_at_work> jkridner|work, that doesn't seem to specify the terminals though
  • [21:16:45] <cwillu_at_work> i.e., when I look up parts on digikey, I get devices of that layout, but with pads only on the underside
  • [21:16:53] <dm8tbr> jkridner|work: hmm, aren't you also somehow involved in this SGX thing for OMAP3? I'm still trying to get the cache corruption problem resolved (and it would be nice to know if there will be hardfloat libraries at some point)
  • [21:16:57] <cwillu_at_work> ... which I cannot hand solder :p
  • [21:17:01] <av500> cwillu_at_work: isnt underside enough to solder them?
  • [21:17:19] <cwillu_at_work> av500, no?
  • [21:17:38] <cwillu_at_work> I've been told that our coffee maker and toaster oven are off limits :(
  • [21:17:58] <av500> pah
  • [21:18:05] <cwillu_at_work> jkridner|work, is that the full line in the bom?
  • [21:18:08] <av500> just put a ton of flux
  • [21:18:17] <jkridner|work> dm8tbr: I'm pretty much a message passer right now. best to file things on the e2e forums, since I don't actually touch the SGX stuff, but I can communicate how important an issue it is overall to the community.
  • [21:18:30] * cwillu_at_work puts a tonne of flux on av500 eyes, and applies heat...
  • [21:18:39] <av500> jkridner|work: it blocks meego on all the nice omap tablets
  • [21:18:41] <jkridner|work> CAP CER 10UF 6.3V X5R 0805 (JMK212BJ106KD-T)
  • [21:18:54] <cwillu_at_work> jkridner|work, thanks
  • [21:18:56] <dm8tbr> jkridner|work: well it's about meego and so far it seems TI only cares about OMAP4 MeeGo
  • [21:19:03] * av500 will not talk to cwillu_at_work any more
  • [21:19:20] <cwillu_at_work> or anyone else, for that matter, muahahahah
  • [21:19:56] <dm8tbr> jkridner|work: http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5616
  • [21:20:20] <dm8tbr> is it telling that firefox proposes that url if I only type in '5' into the address bar...
  • [21:21:46] <dm8tbr> jkridner|work: the mentioned userspace things fail so far. there is a mail discussion with some TI people but its currently stalled. I wondered if you could tell me whom else to poke
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  • [21:24:16] <jkridner|work> I don't know if it is the same fixes being explored to bring from OMAP4 to OMAP3, but some fixes are being explored.
  • [21:25:13] <dm8tbr> jkridner|work: good to hear there is some movement. nokia has it fixed in their SGX sources
  • [21:25:22] <jkridner|work> for OMAP3?
  • [21:25:27] <dm8tbr> yes n900
  • [21:25:39] <dm8tbr> they couldn't pinpoint a patch or commit though :(
  • [21:25:43] <koen> jkridner|work: I know how to fix it, but that will break otg :(
  • [21:25:49] <jkridner|work> hmmm....
  • [21:25:59] <jkridner|work> will break OTG?!?
  • [21:26:03] <koen> and denx master is broken
  • [21:26:19] <koen> yeah, you'll need to unload/reload a gadget driver to do cable detect
  • [21:26:54] <av500> otg is broken anyway
  • [21:26:57] <koen> jkridner|work: 2.6.37rc is doing pretty good on beagle
  • [21:27:34] <jkridner|work> because how you are managing cache coherency for SGX?
  • [21:27:43] <jkridner|work> or was that from my previous question to you?
  • [21:28:30] * jkridner|work remembers what was previously asked to koen and it makes sense.... ignore confusion regarding SGX bug.
  • [21:28:39] <dm8tbr> :)
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  • [21:29:51] <may_null> Hi, should I connect beagleboard to computer with using Rs232 to USB converter?
  • [21:30:10] <cwillu_at_work> sure
  • [21:30:44] <may_null> cwillu_at_work: so then can I run beagleboard,, actually I don't have any LCD or monitor to connect beagle with HDMI
  • [21:30:50] <av500> yes
  • [21:30:54] <may_null> ok
  • [21:31:17] <may_null> when connected with USB should I mount or do anything ?
  • [21:31:44] <may_null> av500: ??
  • [21:32:03] <may_null> or how can I monitor beagle ?
  • [21:32:14] <may_null> for e.g how can I see booting etc.?
  • [21:32:28] <cwillu_at_work> may_null, using the serial connection
  • [21:32:48] <may_null> ok
  • [21:32:49] <cwillu_at_work> may_null, read the tutorials / test stuff on beagleboard.org
  • [21:33:01] <cwillu_at_work> it goes through most of this
  • [21:33:17] <may_null> cwillu_at_work: couldn't find tutorial link
  • [21:33:49] <may_null> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard ?
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  • [21:34:16] <av500> http://beagleboard.org
  • [21:35:33] <iCodeRaven> This is friggin' awesome!
  • [21:35:50] <iCodeRaven> setenv dvimode 1024x768MR-16@60??
  • [21:35:50] <iCodeRaven> run loaduimage??
  • [21:35:51] <iCodeRaven> run mmcboot??
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  • [21:35:58] * cwillu_at_work sets bionics eyes into av500's sockets, and puts av500 into the oven at 350 degrees for 10 minutes
  • [21:36:03] <iCodeRaven> that's all that you need to type at the pre boot console
  • [21:36:52] <aholler> running linux is awesome? ;)
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  • [21:38:15] <iCodeRaven> The Angstrom thing
  • [21:38:24] <iCodeRaven> is awe - wait for it - some
  • [21:39:59] <iCodeRaven> Pity Angstrom can't use GNOME
  • [21:40:04] <iCodeRaven> I dont like GTE that much
  • [21:40:16] <iCodeRaven> Itt's too flashy/garish for me
  • [21:40:33] <muriani> angstrom can't use gnome?
  • [21:40:34] <iCodeRaven> Is it because of hardware limitations?
  • [21:40:48] <iCodeRaven> I mean, it doesn't bundle with their package
  • [21:41:05] <iCodeRaven> Also, I don't really know what I'm talking about very well :P
  • [21:41:20] <av500> linux runs linux
  • [21:41:26] <iCodeRaven> I take it that GTE is the display manager that's used, right?
  • [21:41:38] <iCodeRaven> Yeah, so why don't they use GNOME?
  • [21:41:53] <av500> to annoy you with garish colors
  • [21:41:58] <iCodeRaven> or is that metacity?
  • [21:41:59] <iCodeRaven> argh
  • [21:42:11] * av500 turns the garish level up to 11
  • [21:42:41] * iCodeRaven feels very noob-ish
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  • [21:48:28] <jkridner|work> iCodeRaven: Angstrom can use GNOME. http://narcissus.angstrom-distribution.org/
  • [21:48:59] <av500> jkridner|work: you spoiled it
  • [21:49:05] <jkridner|work> I do that.
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  • [21:49:12] <jkridner|work> :)
  • [21:49:21] <may_null> looking http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners but that explains with connecting COM port in the computer.. I have rs232 to USB so I want to connect using USB
  • [21:49:33] <may_null> so how can I find any tutorials regarding to connect with usb
  • [21:50:05] <iCodeRaven> arre
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  • [21:50:52] <iCodeRaven> that USB to rs232 shows up as a device in /dev. I kinda remember that being there in the wiki
  • [21:51:35] <jkridner|work> man, the USB-to-serial converter in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpwZrsRW4hE is *HUGE*
  • [21:51:49] <iCodeRaven> jkridner|work: Oh yes. Haha. Didn't see that
  • [21:52:32] <may_null> :D
  • [21:52:36] <cwillu_at_work> may_null, usb rs232 adapter is a com port. it's exactly the same
  • [21:52:46] <cwillu_at_work> (okay, different device path maybe)
  • [21:52:53] <av500> he keyspan, I have on of these
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  • [21:53:20] <may_null> cwillu_at_work: so I'll still start with sudo minicom -s
  • [21:53:30] <iCodeRaven> ya
  • [21:53:31] <may_null> etc?? etc??
  • [21:53:33] <may_null> etc. etc.*
  • [21:53:35] <may_null> ?
  • [21:53:36] <may_null> hmm ok
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  • [21:53:51] <may_null> so I should select serial device then ok
  • [21:53:54] <iCodeRaven> Something like ttyUSB something?
  • [21:53:55] <av500> jkridner|work: the laptop is also huge, you sure he is not a midget in fact?
  • [21:54:19] <uwe5000> hello together
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  • [21:54:49] <av5000> hi
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  • [22:03:04] <ds2> Hmmm
  • [22:03:36] <mru> morning to you too
  • [22:03:55] <ds2> =)
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  • [22:07:30] <jkridner|work> av500: must be a good chance of that.
  • [22:09:49] <uwe5000> i have a question about spi@beagleboard xM Rev.B can I use the beagleboard as a spi slave? if yes which port support this mode?
  • [22:10:19] <av500> not sure it can be slave
  • [22:10:29] <av500> check the trm
  • [22:10:42] <ds2> IIRC, all of them support slave mode but there are no drivers for it
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  • [22:24:08] <iCodeRaven> Right, thanks people! Night!
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  • [22:26:08] <djlewis_> gm ,late getting in here today.
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  • [22:30:25] <cwillu_at_work> djlewis_, why do I have a diode in my hand that does not exist?
  • [22:31:49] <cwillu_at_work> and why doesn't it have any visible markings on it?
  • [22:33:54] * cwillu_at_work stamps his feet
  • [22:33:57] <cwillu_at_work> answer me damnit
  • [22:34:04] <cwillu_at_work> http://imgur.com/e1DwI&BKplV&zeoFi
  • [22:34:15] <cwillu_at_work> er
  • [22:34:48] <djlewis_> cwillu_at_work: and I spent several hours looking for a polarity symbol for c97 once only to find that with ceramics it does not matter :P
  • [22:35:41] <cwillu_at_work> djlewis_, a diode whose polarity doesn't matter is an oxymoron, no?
  • [22:35:47] <djlewis_> cwillu_at_work: ya gotta have faith. my digikey replacements were not marked either
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  • [22:36:12] <cwillu_at_work> djlewis_, I'm not actually after a replacement for a c97; these diodes just happen to have the same form factor
  • [22:36:28] <cwillu_at_work> http://imgur.com/ePiRs
  • [22:36:37] <djlewis_> yeah, I saw.
  • [22:36:49] <djlewis_> nm, other link I saw
  • [22:37:08] <cwillu_at_work> other link ended up uploading the same photo three times, instead of each of these photos once :p
  • [22:37:12] <cwillu_at_work> http://imgur.com/4iZhH
  • [22:37:52] * djlewis_ does not think humans were intended to install or replace said components
  • [22:38:28] <djlewis_> hmmm, your micrometer is better than my plastic one :P
  • [22:38:43] <cwillu_at_work> well, other than it's non-metric nature :p
  • [22:38:52] <djlewis_> yeah
  • [22:38:56] <cwillu_at_work> I have a plastic one for metric :(
  • [22:39:22] <djlewis_> measure and get their polarity
  • [22:39:51] <cwillu_at_work> 0.85v drop on the bottom 4, 0.15v drop on the top two
  • [22:40:20] <djlewis_> or a non powered std diode test
  • [22:40:46] <cwillu_at_work> except for the other board, which has... 0.15v drop in each direction on the top two, a a 0.0v drop in one direction for the middle two :p
  • [22:41:03] <cwillu_at_work> s/a a/and a/
  • [22:41:15] * cwillu_at_work would like to buy replacements :p
  • [22:41:27] <cwillu_at_work> (pics are of the good board)
  • [22:42:31] <djlewis_> well, they come in a tape strip and the sprocket marks the polarity
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  • [22:42:50] <cwillu_at_work> okay, that solves one mystery :)
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  • [22:43:02] <cwillu_at_work> still can't prove that the part actually exists though :)
  • [22:43:13] <djlewis_> as in no part numbers?
  • [22:43:31] <cwillu_at_work> I just finished stepping through 600 potential matches on digikey, nothing in that form factor
  • [22:43:35] <cwillu_at_work> nope
  • [22:46:59] <djlewis_> looks like a figure out its job and best guess it if manufacturer of board is no help
  • [22:47:20] <ssvb> firefo
  • [22:47:26] <cwillu_at_work> I just can't find any diodes with that package at all
  • [22:47:54] <cwillu_at_work> i.e., something that looks like it :p
  • [22:48:59] <selcukj> it is not a diod i guess
  • [22:49:46] <cwillu_at_work> it sure acts like a diode :p
  • [22:49:50] <_av500_> it does not look like one
  • [22:50:11] <_av500_> but if you measured it...
  • [22:50:55] <selcukj> how did u measure it?
  • [22:51:14] <cwillu_at_work> my multimeter in diode-test mode shows a voltage drop in one direction of 0.7v, and nothing in the other direction.
  • [22:51:24] * cwillu_at_work runs off quick to write down the exact number
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  • [22:52:38] <selcukj> then u need to check the circuit to figure out polarity
  • [22:52:52] <cwillu_at_work> sorry; 0.859v in one direction, nothign in the other, and the other one is 0.204v
  • [22:53:11] <cwillu_at_work> selcukj, my problem is not determining polarity; I have a working board as well that I can check from
  • [22:54:07] <selcukj> just put a matching size diode then
  • [22:54:24] <selcukj> it looks like regular one
  • [22:54:47] <selcukj> from the reverse voltage point
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  • [23:01:38] <tharvey> is there a known issue regarding OTG hot-insert on omap3? I find that none of my omap boards including beagle-xm detect a hot-insert A or B device on OTG unless there was something present at bootup
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  • [23:07:38] <djlewis_> cwillu_at_work: http://www.leocom.kr/TS4148%20RZ/TAIWAN-SEMICONDUCTOR/%EB%8B%A4%EC%9D%B4%EC%98%A4%EB%93%9C/%EC%86%8C%EC%8B%A0%ED%98%B8/%EC%A3%BC%EB%AC%B8%EC%BD%94%EB%93%9C/8150192
  • [23:07:52] <cwillu_at_work> djlewis_
  • [23:07:53] <Ceriand|work> holy escape characters batman!
  • [23:07:54] <cwillu_at_work> I love you.
  • [23:08:04] <cwillu_at_work> seriously.
  • [23:08:18] <djlewis_> :-*
  • [23:08:25] <_av500_> 4148
  • [23:08:44] <djlewis_> cwillu_at_work: google "0805 diode picture"
  • [23:09:04] <_av500_> he
  • [23:09:10] <_av500_> nice
  • [23:09:30] <cwillu_at_work> now I want to hurt you :p
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  • [23:09:52] <cwillu_at_work> but in a good way :p
  • [23:09:54] <djlewis_> um_waw?
  • [23:10:58] <cwillu_at_work> ahhh, k
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  • [23:16:12] <HokieTux> when I open vim on the beagle, it cuts the screen to like 20 lines. this is without a vimrc, with vim-vimrc, and with my own vimrc. anyone have ideas?
  • [23:17:31] <HokieTux> oh, also, it happens using both screen and minicom for term/dialers, so thats not it either
  • [23:18:00] <Ceriand|work> HokieTux: try typing "resize" before launching vim
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  • [23:18:24] <djlewis_> on serial console I expect?
  • [23:18:53] <HokieTux> djlewis_: yeah, serial console
  • [23:18:54] <HokieTux> not over ssh
  • [23:19:12] <HokieTux> aaaha. fixed. you are the man, Ceriand|work
  • [23:19:36] <HokieTux> thanks =)
  • [23:19:40] <Ceriand|work> np
  • [23:19:42] <djlewis_> Ceriand|work: i must try that next time I try a editor in console
  • [23:20:56] <Ceriand|work> you could also export COLUMNS and LINES with appropriate values
  • [23:21:16] <Ceriand|work> but "resize" queries the controlling terminal
  • [23:22:32] <HokieTux> yeah, I see it print out the exports after running it
  • [23:22:34] <HokieTux> way cool
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  • [23:22:57] <ds2> use "eval `resize`"
  • [23:23:01] <ds2> it'll set everything
  • [23:23:18] <Ceriand|work> they busybox resize does it for you
  • [23:23:23] <Ceriand|work> *the
  • [23:23:39] <ds2> it can't set environments as a child cannot change the env of the parent
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  • [23:24:45] <Ceriand|work> all I know is that in my busybox shell it sticks around after running by just running resize
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  • [23:40:17] <andyzammy> hi all. I'm wondering what the difference is between two codesourcery compilers are - arm-none-eabi and arm-none-linux-gnueabi.. is the latter for making kernel images and former for program bins?
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  • [23:43:51] <Ceriand|work> I believe one can only generate static binaries (like the kernel) and the other is linked with the C library so you can make shared object programs
  • [23:44:07] <Ceriand|work> I don't use CS so I could be totally wrong
  • [23:45:08] <mru> the compilers are the same
  • [23:45:17] <mru> just different default settings
  • [23:45:38] <mru> the linux-gnu one links to glibc by default
  • [23:46:09] <Ceriand|work> shows what I know :-p
  • [23:46:36] * Ceriand|work is a buildroot kind of guy
  • [23:46:57] <andyzammy> ah ok, thanks for your help!
  • [23:48:21] <andyzammy> i'm actually quite new to bb. i wish to do embedded programming as a profession, so i have made a rather ambitious goal for myself. i would like to do the whole process myself of compiling a kernel (and bootloader) to run on bb much like the angstrom demo image
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  • [23:49:14] <andyzammy> i've tried to do the bitbake method but that seemed to me too automatic - press one button it all gets done for you, which i didn't like
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  • [23:50:09] <andyzammy> i'm looking to take the most current stable release of linux kernel and modify it myself to make it run on bb - can anyone tell me how plausible this idea is?
  • [23:50:40] <mru> linux already runs on the beagle
  • [23:52:21] <andyzammy> yeah i know but it would give me a much better understanding of the kernel if i were able to get it to run on beagle myself instead of using someone elses work.
  • [23:52:36] <mru> you're not making sense
  • [23:52:48] <mru> linux runs on beagle, there's nothing to be done
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  • [23:55:05] <Ceriand|work> andyzammy: if you're interesting in low-level omap programming, you should look at http://code.google.com/p/puppybits/
  • [23:55:26] <Ceriand|work> *interested
  • [23:57:43] <andyzammy> thanks for the link - but the first glance tells me i won't be very interested in that - the phrase "without an os" is a little off-putting. also, while i do own an OMAP processor i don't necesarily want to learn to program them specifically
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  • [23:59:22] <andyzammy> like i said im interested in embedded, and i want to be able to port linux to a processor should i have to - as i have a beagle i'd like to practice on that, seeing as it's already been done before
  • [23:59:49] <mru> but it's been done, there's nothing for you to do