• [00:06:50] <Jefro> hookem - there are drivers for the BeagleBoard's onboard USB hardware, is that what you mean? Or do you mean a Windows driver that will see the BeagleBoard as a gadget?
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  • [00:43:09] <hookem> i'm looking for windows driver so when i connect the board to windows via usb it'll recognize it
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  • [00:47:10] <Jefro> hookem - the board isn't really set up that way. think of it as a separate computer, not as a USB gadget.
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  • [00:47:48] <Jefro> hookem - you can see what is happening on the board by connecting to it through a serial connection
  • [00:48:19] <hookem> this is what i'm trying to accomplish - i have android on the beagleboard, and i am trying to install a apk that i developed on another pc onto the board
  • [00:48:34] <hookem> so i'm trying to find a way to transfer that file to the board
  • [00:48:45] <Jefro> does your board have networking established?
  • [00:48:54] <Jefro> meaning, can it see your LAN
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  • [00:49:21] <hookem> nope
  • [00:50:28] <Jefro> it sounds like you have two choices: (1) establish a network in some way, which you can do via USB using Angstrom but not Android in my experience; or (2) put the apk in the root filesystem on the card using a card reader on your host, and then reboot
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  • [00:51:13] <hookem> Angstrom is a unix sys right?
  • [00:51:13] <Jefro> you could also put it on a USB stick and insert that into the running board. someone else may know if Android has udev.
  • [00:51:26] <Jefro> yes, Angstrom is an embedded distribution
  • [00:52:09] <hookem> the problem with putting the file on a usb stick or sd card is the android by default has no "file browser" app, and in order to get a browsing app onto it i run into the same problem
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  • [00:52:59] <Jefro> ah, I see... hmm
  • [00:53:49] <Jefro> I confess I have little experience with Android, other than a few months with a Nexus One. I did a short demo on the BB at OSCON, but I didn't do anything special with it, just booted.
  • [00:54:34] <hookem> i found a simple way to be able to install an apk via usb with just a couple clicks from this helpful app, but the pc must be able to recognize the device
  • [00:54:37] <Jefro> you might try the android folks, surely someone has run into this problem before
  • [00:55:13] <hookem> yea i plan to ask them
  • [00:55:16] <Jefro> can the app install a local file? or is there really no browsing ability at all? I seem to remember that android had at least a shell and such
  • [00:55:52] <hookem> it does have a shell, but i still have to get the .apk file onto it
  • [00:56:13] <hookem> there is browsing ability, i mean if i can get internet to work on it that'll help too
  • [00:56:37] <hookem> would have to use usb wifi i assume
  • [00:56:40] <Jefro> this is an xM board, or a C4? if the latter, you'll need a USB ethernet dongle to get networking up
  • [00:57:04] <hookem> C4
  • [00:57:18] <Jefro> wifi is a tricky proposition with android if I recall correctly, but again I haven't lpayed with it much. there are few ARM drivers for wireless cards.
  • [00:57:38] <Jefro> one of the Belkins is known to work well with several distros, perhaps it would work with Android as well
  • [00:58:51] <hookem> well, i'm tryin to avoid spending more money too lol
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  • [01:00:39] <Jefro> :) I know what that's like
  • [01:01:08] <Jefro> I know it is possible to set up networking via USB on the rev C with Angstrom, but I don't know if the same packages are preinstalled on the Android kernel.
  • [01:01:29] <Jefro> the idea is to set up a network bridge. there is a page on it on elinux.org... one sec
  • [01:01:43] <hookem> how much is a usb ethernet dongle usually run for?
  • [01:02:24] <rcn-ee> <$25w/ shipping..
  • [01:02:37] <Jefro> there is a $30 3-port powered USB hub with ethernet built in at specialcomp.com
  • [01:03:08] <rcn-ee> that's the nice asix chipset one..
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  • [01:03:23] <hookem> already bought a belkin usb hub
  • [01:03:28] <Jefro> yes, it works well with all distros I have tested it with (android, meego, angstrom)
  • [01:03:55] <Jefro> here is the page on setting up a usb network bridge, but you'd need to have installed bridge-utils, which I'm almost certain Android does not have preinstalled: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/aaf290080d1f0c24?pli=1
  • [01:04:52] <Jefro> without buying a dongle, your best bet is to try to get that apk onto the rootfs on the card and then trying to browse to it with whatever utility can run it
  • [01:05:00] <Jefro> wups, off to a meeting - good luck!
  • [01:05:10] <hookem> thanks for your help
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  • [04:34:51] <ds2> hmmmm
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  • [05:15:45] <_av500_> +1
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  • [05:36:08] <kevin_> Hello, i???ve got a question.
  • [05:36:24] <kevin_> Is there a version of the beagle logo with a transparent background?
  • [05:37:14] <_av500_> make one
  • [05:37:52] <buZz> there might be a findable vector version somewhere
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  • [05:41:52] <kevin_> ok, i???ll just cut it out in photoshop then
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  • [06:14:57] <daurnimator> hi all
  • [06:14:59] <daurnimator> just got my xm
  • [06:15:12] <daurnimator> trying to boot the validation image into linux...
  • [06:15:32] <daurnimator> i don't have a serial cable; I'm not sure what to do...
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  • [06:27:43] <_av500_> get one
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  • [06:35:12] <kblin> usb2serial connectors are pretty cheap, and money well-spent if you dabble with embedded devices
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  • [06:36:02] <daurnimator> I just need a cable, my comp has a serial port
  • [06:36:15] <daurnimator> just stores are closed right now, anything I can do in the mean time?
  • [06:37:04] <ds2> make a cable
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  • [06:43:39] <daurnimator> don't have db9 connectors
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  • [06:56:03] <ynezz> you don't need connector at all
  • [06:56:07] <ynezz> just solder it directly
  • [06:56:09] <ynezz> :p
  • [06:57:08] <daurnimator> *solders beagleboard to computer*
  • [07:05:18] <htns> hmm. any idea why i2cget limits its chip address range to 0x03-0x77?
  • [07:08:50] <htns> something on beagle seems to respond on i2c3 at address 0x39. wonder what that is
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  • [07:13:31] <daurnimator> htns: the TPS65950 is somewhere...
  • [07:13:49] <daurnimator> ah, thats 0 >.<
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  • [08:00:45] <hatten|> htns: there's a 7-bit address space with a few reserved addresses
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  • [08:32:55] <tasslehoff> edid?
  • [08:33:18] <av500> whodid?
  • [08:33:25] <av500> youdid?
  • [08:33:49] <tasslehoff> wedid
  • [08:33:59] <av500> splendid
  • [08:34:04] <woglinde_> display?
  • [08:34:39] <tasslehoff> htns: t'was for you. do you have a display connected? perhaps that's the one responding at 0x39.
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  • [08:56:58] <_koen_> good morning all
  • [08:57:15] <av500> is that a script btw?
  • [08:57:17] <av500> gm
  • [08:57:47] <_koen_> srcipt?
  • [08:58:06] <av500> src ipk
  • [08:58:44] <_koen_> there isn't such a think as src ipk, afaik
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  • [09:07:12] <koen> florian: did you find out why the ISP seems to be throttling ltg?
  • [09:08:26] <florian> koen: not really... we didn't get any more notifications from them anyway.
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  • [09:25:47] <itv> hey
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  • [09:59:58] <tolo> hello
  • [10:00:24] <tolo> I just buy a beagleboard
  • [10:00:29] <tolo> Ive a problem
  • [10:00:37] <tolo> with video output
  • [10:00:49] <tolo> can use hdmi - vga cable?
  • [10:01:10] <av500> no
  • [10:01:15] <av500> you cant
  • [10:01:21] <tolo> Its is similar than use hdmi to dvi
  • [10:01:24] <tolo> no?
  • [10:01:25] <av500> get hdmi/dvi monitor
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  • [10:02:09] <tolo> thks
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  • [10:51:08] <tasslehoff> jacekowski: fyi: solved the rtc issue you helped me with. our board was missing the pull-up on the msecure signal that rev C3 has.
  • [10:53:33] <tasslehoff> but, is this a bug? etk_d8 is configured as husb1_dir in the u-boot muxing. if it had been set to sys_drm_msecure it would have been driven high by the omap without the need for a pull-up?
  • [10:58:31] <tasslehoff> _koen_: how can I make the kernel modules for rtc-core and rtc-twl be inserted on boot. they were, but oddly that doesn't happen any more after we added the pull-up to the board..
  • [10:59:05] <_koen_> did you add the rtc i2c to your platform data?
  • [10:59:14] <_koen_> if so, udev should load it for you
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  • [11:00:57] <tasslehoff> _koen_: uhm. I haven't done it manually, at least. how does one do that?
  • [11:04:47] * woglinde_ wonders if Ari Jaaksi lives in a diffrent world
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  • [11:05:13] <av500> the Noklapalm dude?
  • [11:05:18] <woglinde_> webos on pre has kernel 2.6.24 and very old directfb
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  • [11:05:31] <woglinde_> this old but not execellent software
  • [11:05:38] <woglinde_> anymroe
  • [11:05:49] <av500> woglinde_: who cares for kernel versions?
  • [11:06:06] <woglinde_> new pm featueres=
  • [11:06:12] <woglinde_> now I wonder at all
  • [11:06:16] <av500> and customers know that?
  • [11:06:18] <woglinde_> how they do pm on it
  • [11:06:41] <woglinde_> av500 when your phone last 5 hours longer or a day its matter
  • [11:06:41] <_koen_> tasslehoff: look at the board file for beagle, that has one for twl rtc and ds1307
  • [11:06:48] <_koen_> (in the kernel)
  • [11:06:51] <av500> woglinde_: sure, thats all that matters
  • [11:07:09] <av500> but I never overheard somebody in a phone shop asking for the kernel version of a phone
  • [11:07:17] <woglinde_> av500 or when the ui feeling is faster
  • [11:07:19] <_koen_> I bet the .24 is heavily patches
  • [11:07:21] <av500> most ppl I know care about the color more...
  • [11:07:25] <_koen_> patched*
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  • [11:07:36] <_koen_> everybody hide, it's Crofton|work
  • [11:07:50] <woglinde_> koen the patch is downloadable
  • [11:07:54] <woglinde_> harald made it sure
  • [11:07:55] <Crofton|work> urg
  • [11:07:56] <av500> but yes, meego thinks their phones will be good because "the patches are upstream" lol
  • [11:08:14] <woglinde_> I dont want a atom handy
  • [11:08:18] <Crofton|work> I don't care if it makes their phones good :)
  • [11:08:18] <woglinde_> args cellphone
  • [11:08:38] <Crofton|work> just that we have fewer random pacthes around
  • [11:09:31] <woglinde_> av500 I looked today more into it
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  • [11:09:56] <rodrigo_golive> morning all
  • [11:09:56] <woglinde_> they are using no X
  • [11:10:21] <Crofton|work> cellphones are so last century
  • [11:10:54] <woglinde_> http://palm.cdnetworks.net/opensource/1.0.1/linux-2.6.24-patch.gz
  • [11:11:01] <woglinde_> if some one ins intressted
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  • [11:12:30] <tasslehoff> _koen_: I only see references to ds1307 in board-omap3beagle.c
  • [11:12:35] <av500> woglinde_: no X is good, no?
  • [11:12:49] <woglinde_> av500 depends
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  • [11:15:14] <tasslehoff> _koen_: isn't it odd that my board inserted the modules automatically until I added a pull-up on msecure?
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  • [11:17:23] <woglinde_> intresstring
  • [11:17:25] <woglinde_> *g*
  • [11:17:26] <woglinde_> /* support for booting without u-boot */
  • [11:17:43] <av500> woglinde_: palm add the tony lindgren pm stuff
  • [11:18:08] <av500> err, the khilman one
  • [11:18:32] <av500> so, its most likely based on some TI kernel
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  • [11:22:40] <av500> woglinde_: ok, so its a TI/Nokia kernel with some pre support :)
  • [11:22:55] <av500> looks very familiar to the 1st omap3 kernel we got from TI
  • [11:23:19] <av500> and ours was .22 and it did pm
  • [11:23:27] <woglinde_> hm okay
  • [11:23:52] <av500> its the now deprecated ti pm framework
  • [11:23:54] <woglinde_> but wasnt the internal structure of the kernel not this good for pm?
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  • [11:25:00] <av500> woglinde_: ??
  • [11:25:16] <av500> woglinde_: on a cellphone, PM can be very explicit
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  • [11:25:28] <av500> youtell the kernel to go to low speed or suspend
  • [11:25:35] <av500> a lot happens in user space
  • [11:26:17] <woglinde_> hm yeah but I read a lot of improvemnets for suspend stuff
  • [11:26:34] <woglinde_> hm maybee 26 is really enough
  • [11:26:56] <av500> woglinde_: suspend is suspend, the device is off and only sdram is powered
  • [11:27:01] <av500> once you are there, you are there
  • [11:27:21] <av500> and that worked back with .22
  • [11:27:36] <av500> of course stuff improved
  • [11:28:07] <av500> e.g. we used to unload some drivers that were not suspend friendly
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  • [11:28:21] <av500> which can now handle it
  • [11:30:40] <av500> http://www.mikekohn.net/micro/naken430asm_msp430_assembler.php
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  • [11:36:30] <woglinde_> sure I have worked on msp430 to lower clock speed
  • [11:36:43] <woglinde_> so I basic know whats pm doing
  • [11:36:47] <woglinde_> args know
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  • [11:39:45] <av500> the msp was unrelated :)
  • [11:39:53] <woglinde_> hm oh okay
  • [11:40:10] <av500> it was because a few ppl have have that launchpad hardware...
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  • [11:55:05] <tasslehoff> _koen_: hm. it inserts the rtc modules on the first boot after an upgrade, but not on subsequent boots
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  • [11:57:31] <rickdisco> hi
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  • [12:00:54] <rickdisco> how do i go about using the uart on the beagleboard at a baud higher than 115200 ?
  • [12:02:03] <woglinde_> did you look at the board spec?
  • [12:05:08] <rickdisco> im looking at it now
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  • [12:07:08] <rickdisco> woglinde_: i dont see anything about changing it
  • [12:09:42] <woglinde_> I meant you should check of the uart can be faster as 115200
  • [12:09:47] <woglinde_> args if
  • [12:12:09] <jkridner|work1> good morning all
  • [12:12:35] <koen_> hey jkridner|work1
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  • [12:15:38] <woglinde_> hi jkridner
  • [12:17:12] <rickdisco> woglinde_: the line driver does support faster speeds so i would assume so
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  • [12:19:11] <chris10230> hi, can the BeagleBoard-Xm support multiple cameras? Thanks for the help
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  • [12:24:09] <koen_> chris10230: you can plug in as much usb webcams as you want
  • [12:24:17] <koen_> or multiplex sensors on the ISP
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  • [12:25:50] <tasslehoff> earlier I said: "etk_d8 is configured as husb1_dir in the u-boot muxing. if it had been set to sys_drm_msecure it would have been driven high by the omap without the need for a pull-up?". Does it sound like a bug, or should I just let it slide. The pull-up makes it work for me, but if its a bug I could submit a patch.
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  • [12:29:10] <chris10230> cheers koen_ that was what i wanted to know, I wanted to plug in 2 cameras by usb. Before i went looking for compatible ones for this and linux i wanted to check that it was possible.
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  • [12:48:48] <av500> rickdisco: 1mbit works fine here
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  • [13:02:18] <rickdisco> av500: did you just set the baud in the app you are using at it works?
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  • [13:08:06] <av500> rickdisco: actually, I use it only for the kernel console
  • [13:08:18] <av500> and there I just patched it into the serial core driver
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  • [13:14:10] <Crofton|work> jkridner, you know about the amazon cloud stuff?
  • [13:14:25] <koen_> Crofton|work: that's how the validation stuff gets built
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  • [13:14:39] <Crofton|work> do you have a link to an intro?
  • [13:14:59] <Crofton|work> I'm reading wikipedia :)
  • [13:15:06] <rickdisco> av500: how did you do that? if i try with setenv it says it is unsupported
  • [13:15:38] <koen> Crofton|work: http://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/scripts/blobs/master/ec2build.sh
  • [13:16:04] <koen> Crofton|work: I was thinking of moving things like narcissus to that when the funding comes thru
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  • [13:16:19] <Crofton|work> yeah
  • [13:16:22] <av500> rickdisco: setenv?
  • [13:16:31] <Crofton|work> I would like a machine people can copy
  • [13:16:50] <Crofton|work> so they can easily recreate OW builds for the usrp embedded
  • [13:16:54] <rickdisco> av500: like at the boot, when i disable autoboot
  • [13:17:00] <av500> no
  • [13:17:05] <av500> I patched the kernel it self
  • [13:17:37] <av500> so 115200 is 1000000
  • [13:17:43] <rickdisco> ah ok
  • [13:17:58] <rickdisco> mind running me through how to do that ?
  • [13:18:00] <av500> if( baud = 115200 ) baud = 1000000;
  • [13:18:57] <rickdisco> ta
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  • [13:19:57] <av500> rickdisco: http://pastebin.com/AdPE71hp
  • [13:20:01] <av500> more or less like that
  • [13:20:13] <av500> you can easily make that a kernel cmdline option...
  • [13:21:08] <rickdisco> thanks
  • [13:21:17] <av500> rickdisco: http://pastebin.com/0suB5a85
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  • [13:29:46] <rickdisco> do you know if the angstrom demo image does not allow the baud to be faster than 115200 ?
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  • [13:31:10] <ninksink_xM> Question: What is the most effective method of getting a GUI (xorg or any X for that matter) working on the xM in ubuntu lucid.
  • [13:32:07] <av500> ubuntu comes without a gui these days?
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  • [13:32:25] <felipec> koen: the fix you applied for omapfb is not right: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1047146, http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.arm.omap/44978
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  • [13:36:46] <jkridner> Crofton|work: I've used EC2 for years. BeagleBoard.org is hosted on EC2.
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  • [13:47:12] <GatorBoz> ds2: hello again!
  • [13:48:40] <GatorBoz> ds2: I hear you did some work w/ the hy-research LCD interface....I am planning on using the same PSP LCD display
  • [13:50:19] <_koen_> felipec: I know, but it gets the job done till the proper fix is merged
  • [13:52:32] <felipec> _koen_: only on certain hardware I guess
  • [13:52:50] <felipec> _koen_: it doesn't work on N900
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  • [13:53:28] <GatorBoz> Any recommendations for a 4.3" display that interfaces with beagle...but with the flex connector on the SHORT end of the display?
  • [13:53:40] <GatorBoz> ...versus the long end
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  • [14:07:40] <ninksink_xM> Trying to figure out why "startx" seems to fail with the HDMI output to screen. I notice the "sys/devices/platform..."... here is my pastebin.... http://pastebin.com/zCD6n9J7
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  • [14:17:47] <djlewis> GatorBoz: is this similar? http://hackaday.com/2010/06/09/linux-tablet-built-around-a-beagleboard/
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  • [14:18:21] <tomeu_> hi all
  • [14:18:38] <djlewis> tomeu_: gm
  • [14:18:40] <tomeu_> Im trying to use a usk keyboard with BB
  • [14:18:58] <tomeu_> but is not working (im using demo Ubuntu 10.10)
  • [14:19:06] <felipec> koen: this one is probably more proper: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.arm.kernel/93479
  • [14:19:23] <rickdisco> the BB usb ports are high speed devices only, so your kb is prob not
  • [14:19:33] <rickdisco> try plug a hub in and see if the kb works then
  • [14:19:44] <tomeu_> all right
  • [14:19:48] <felipec> koen: with that, and CONFIG_OMAP2_VRAM_SIZE=X, all hw should work
  • [14:19:49] <tomeu_> I will try now
  • [14:19:50] <tomeu_> thnks
  • [14:19:53] <rickdisco> np
  • [14:20:21] <av500> GatorBoz: as a single unit customers, you are more or less bound by what is available on the market
  • [14:20:43] <av500> flex on the short side is more likely a mobile phone display
  • [14:20:57] <av500> which is also driven in portrait modew
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  • [14:24:09] <tomeu_> hi all
  • [14:24:47] <tomeu_> I try 2 usb hubs, u know any problem more?
  • [14:26:09] <felipec> koen: oh, disregard that, 06c1088 should fix that
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  • [14:29:21] <BlInK311> is there anywhere i can dl the angstrom demo that dls faster than 13kbs?
  • [14:29:41] <tomeu_> I try 2 usb hubs for using the kb, but anything is working, do u have any clue?
  • [14:31:24] <woglinde_> first examine if the kernel recognize the kbd
  • [14:31:29] <woglinde_> look at dmesg output
  • [14:32:03] <tomeu_> how with out a kb...
  • [14:32:29] <GatorBoz> av500: yeah the primary display mode for my device will be in portrait mode
  • [14:32:54] <GatorBoz> av500: my display choice is being guided by having the flex connector on the short end
  • [14:33:08] <av500> GatorBoz: now the bad news is that a lot of portrait lcds are not parallel
  • [14:33:08] <GatorBoz> dj: checking that link....
  • [14:33:37] <woglinde_> tomeu_ serial console?
  • [14:33:39] <GatorBoz> av500: Ok....what is the next preferred interface if parallel is out, DVI?
  • [14:33:47] <av500> no
  • [14:33:52] <av500> not for a phone LCD
  • [14:33:57] <av500> stuff like DSI
  • [14:34:05] <tomeu_> any other chance...
  • [14:34:09] <tomeu_> ok thnks...
  • [14:34:13] <av500> so serial
  • [14:34:25] <woglinde_> tomeu_ without serial you will not have much fun
  • [14:34:44] <tomeu_> I will say to you how have fun :P
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  • [14:34:54] <av500> next bb rev should come with a ftdi soldered :)
  • [14:35:05] <woglinde_> lol
  • [14:35:18] <av500> going pin header to db9 was a big step
  • [14:35:19] <tomeu_> thanks wogline
  • [14:35:31] <av500> but now, ppl try without serial at all :)
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  • [14:35:43] <av500> we cant have that
  • [14:35:51] <woglinde_> av500 hm I tried to get serial console over the usb with u-boot but didnt succedded
  • [14:36:05] <av500> woglinde_: musb patches?
  • [14:36:17] <woglinde_> av500 sort of
  • [14:36:22] <av500> sort?
  • [14:36:31] <av500> bitbanged?
  • [14:36:34] <woglinde_> cannt remeber what I am patched
  • [14:37:01] <woglinde_> but loading the u-boot was to big to load via x-loader
  • [14:37:20] <woglinde_> args
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  • [14:37:48] <woglinde_> okay till later
  • [14:38:59] <woglinde_> hm right
  • [14:39:05] <woglinde_> was this stuff
  • [14:39:06] <woglinde_> http://elinux.org/U-boot_musb_gadget_support
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  • [14:41:02] <GatorBoz> av500: this is an interesting compromise http://www.lcdinfo.com/usbd480/documentation/USBD480_User_Guide.pdf
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  • [14:50:26] <av500> GatorBoz: interesting
  • [14:50:35] <av500> the linux driver is available?
  • [14:50:50] <GatorBoz> av500: yeah.....in the documentation he talks about the Linux driver to make it a FB device
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  • [14:51:02] <GatorBoz> av500: no word on Android usage though
  • [14:52:12] <av500> yes, I found it
  • [14:52:16] <GatorBoz> av500: look at page 9 of http://www.lcdinfo.com/usbd480/documentation/USBD480_User_Guide_20090803.pdf
  • [14:52:19] <av500> android you need to write you own
  • [14:52:22] <av500> your
  • [14:52:28] <GatorBoz> custom FB driver?
  • [14:52:44] <av500> yes
  • [14:52:47] <av500> using libusb or so
  • [14:53:18] <GatorBoz> hmmm
  • [14:53:24] <GatorBoz> wonder what the estimate on man hours that is
  • [14:54:22] <av500> 2w
  • [14:54:32] <GatorBoz> hmm
  • [14:54:45] <GatorBoz> the hy-research interface might be better
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  • [15:05:44] <sakoman> GatorBoz: Gumstix Overo has an expansion board that supports PSP type LCD. Schematics and drivers are available publicly
  • [15:06:04] <GatorBoz> sakoman: Solid! I'll go check it out....
  • [15:06:17] <sakoman> And I know there are people using that with Android
  • [15:06:43] <GatorBoz> most excellent
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  • [15:08:05] <ninksink_xM> Ok, here is my Xorg.0.log output, complete finally. http://ninksink.pastebin.com/YbumDtXF
  • [15:08:29] <djlewis> sakoman: good monring
  • [15:09:51] <ninksink_xM> Trying to get our screen which is hooked up to the HDMI output to work. Any ideas on what I am doing wrong
  • [15:12:24] <woglinde_> ninksink what screen is it?
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  • [15:14:11] <woglinde_> hm hm
  • [15:14:13] <woglinde_> (WW) Error opening /sys/devices/platform/omapfb/ctrl/name: No such file or directory
  • [15:14:16] <woglinde_> (WW) Can't autodetect LCD controller, assuming internal
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  • [15:17:44] <ninksink_xM> woglinde_, TFT-LCD monitor
  • [15:18:05] <woglinde_> ninksink_xM hm
  • [15:19:56] <ninksink_xM> woglinde_, http://www.short-circuit.com/product/VM104.html (used in cars, boats and such)
  • [15:21:07] <woglinde_> hm
  • [15:21:09] <ninksink_xM> woglinde_, it uses touchkit drivers, http://www.touchkit.com/Drivers.asp
  • [15:21:16] <tomeu_> hi
  • [15:21:24] <woglinde_> you could try if angstroem works out of the box
  • [15:21:32] <woglinde_> ninksink_xM console is working?
  • [15:21:41] <tomeu_> I insert an usb KB and says unable to enumerate USB device port 2, what do u think?
  • [15:21:46] <ninksink_xM> woglinde_, console, is working, yes.
  • [15:21:50] <woglinde_> okay
  • [15:22:05] <woglinde_> tomeu hm thats either mean linux found no driver
  • [15:22:13] <woglinde_> or there is some hw problem
  • [15:22:17] <ninksink_xM> woglinde_, Not on this screen, but via the Serial ttyUSB0 and a laptop
  • [15:22:23] <woglinde_> *sigh*
  • [15:22:28] <woglinde_> I meant on the screen
  • [15:22:43] <tomeu_> but is a KB how cant found a driver...
  • [15:22:53] <woglinde_> the console via serial has nothing to do with Xorg
  • [15:22:58] <woglinde_> okay
  • [15:23:00] <ninksink_xM> woglinde_, Have the screen plugged into the hdmi of the xM and nothing shows on the LCD.
  • [15:23:00] <woglinde_> till later
  • [15:23:11] <woglinde_> get the console working first
  • [15:23:22] <woglinde_> mabyee you need to patch the kernel
  • [15:23:23] <woglinde_> mom
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  • [15:24:22] <ninksink_xM> woglinde_, dang, ok, I am a newb. Can you direct me to more information on patching the kernel for the HDMI (I assume the patch is for the HDMI)
  • [15:24:35] <woglinde_> hm its not for hdmi
  • [15:24:41] <woglinde_> but to set the resoltuion
  • [15:25:18] <woglinde_> try to read this http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_on_Beagleboard_from_scratch#Custom_video_settings
  • [15:25:30] <woglinde_> okay till later
  • [15:27:29] <ninksink_xM> woglinde_, Could there be a problem with our connection to to the xM hdmi, What we have now is HDMI-DVI-VGA (we tested the screen using VGA-VGA from a laptop, and it worked)
  • [15:29:36] <ninksink_xM> woglinde_, in your experience, what touch screen product seems to be the most successful?
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  • [15:34:55] <av500> ninksink_xM: vga?
  • [15:35:11] <av500> ninksink_xM: vga does not work at all
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  • [15:39:43] <ninksink_xM> av500, Aaaa man. What path in HW should we follow for a touch screen that will allow us to use a window manager (or gnome desktop) on the xM.
  • [15:39:43] <dm8tbr> think of the port as DVI-D
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  • [15:40:48] <ninksink_xM> av500, and a screen that is 8x6 in size roughly. Just not the tiny touch screen that is usually sold with beagles?
  • [15:43:09] <av500> ???
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  • [15:43:24] <av500> the BB does not support VGA
  • [15:43:28] <av500> it support DVI
  • [15:43:31] <av500> or a parallel LCD
  • [15:43:50] <ninksink_xM> av500, perhaps we should use the beagle-touch for now. Would be nice to have a beagle-touch that is roughly 10 inches.
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  • [15:45:34] <GatorBoz> sakoman: seems Gumstix has not done a port for the Sharp LQ043T3DX02, as per the email I just received....can you dig up any other details regarding the Gumstix and Sharp display and Android?
  • [15:46:59] <av500> ninksink_xM: buy a 10" dvi lcd with touch
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  • [15:47:48] <sakoman> GatorBoz: the panel Gumstix is using is quite close to the Sharp panel, I'm sure you would be able to modify the schematics/driver as needed
  • [15:48:16] <GatorBoz> sakoman: ok I'll take a look
  • [15:49:05] <sakoman> just look at the schematics posted on the Gunstix site and compare to your panel
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  • [16:34:55] <ynezz> koen: I don't know, maybe you know it already, but it looks like there might be something wrong with the angstrom.org site
  • [16:36:03] <ynezz> NOTE: fetch http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/sources/eglibc-2_11_svn.eglibc.org_.branches_10690_.tar.gz
  • [16:36:28] <ynezz> 1750K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 3% 1.51K 2h9m
  • [16:36:29] <ynezz> :)
  • [16:44:14] <av500> ynezz: yes, its slow
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  • [16:53:22] <koen> ynezz: you need to ask florian, I can only confirm it's slow
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  • [17:26:40] <emeb> cheap fix for ARM devboard junkies: http://www.st.com/mcu/contentid-133-110-STM32VLDISCOVERY.html
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  • [17:27:31] <emeb> avnet has 117 of 'em as of about 5 min ago...
  • [17:27:41] <jkridner> seems a bit off-topic, but how much?
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  • [17:27:56] <emeb> shipped to your door < $20
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  • [17:27:58] <davidc__> < $10 IIRC
  • [17:28:21] <_av500_> unaccaptable!
  • [17:28:23] <jkridner> how does it compare to the $4.30 MSP430 Launchpad?
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  • [17:28:31] <_av500_> twice expensive
  • [17:28:40] <emeb> about the same size?
  • [17:28:49] <emeb> more pins?
  • [17:29:09] <_av500_> only from distris with shipping chargea :(
  • [17:29:19] <jkridner> ah, ARM vs. not-ARM.
  • [17:29:24] <emeb> yep
  • [17:29:35] <jkridner> missed that point on MSP430. :)
  • [17:30:08] * jkridner wonders what inexpensive Stellaris devboards are out there.
  • [17:31:06] <jkridner> I know there is the evalbot out there, but that isn't quite in this price range.
  • [17:33:08] <koen> CAN in a can!
  • [17:33:11] <emeb> ordered one yesterday - should be here this afternoon (whse is local)
  • [17:33:32] <koen> jkridner: would be nice if the leaflab maple would use stellaris
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  • [17:36:30] <jkridner> http://www.luminarymicro.com/products/dk-lm3s9b96-em2.html is ~$40.
  • [17:36:42] * jkridner looks up leaflab maple
  • [17:37:10] <jkridner> is that an Arduino-alike?
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  • [17:38:06] <jkridner> ah, it is.
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  • [17:42:04] <GatorBoz> ds2: ping
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  • [17:51:39] <djlewis_> emeb: hi, you are tempting me to order one, like I need it..:P
  • [17:52:05] <emeb> djlewis_: thought you'd be interested in that.
  • [17:52:31] <emeb> djlewis_: btw - saw your posting on adding C97 the other day - how'd that work out?
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  • [17:52:50] <djlewis_> yep, can never have enough free or very inexpensive dev kits
  • [17:53:05] <koen> or free expensive kits
  • [17:53:17] <emeb> best kind :)
  • [17:53:41] <sistlajr> hi can any one let me know how vmallocTotal that appears in /proc/meminfo
  • [17:53:51] <djlewis_> emeb: working up web pages, now in flux, http://djlewis.us/files/bb/
  • [17:54:05] <prpplague> djlewis_: a free "build your own nuclear reactor" dev kit, might be enough
  • [17:54:29] <emeb> djlewis_: looks about right.
  • [17:54:44] <djlewis_> still a dusty board though
  • [17:55:16] <djlewis_> prpplague: i need four more of those long standoffs that come with trainer
  • [17:55:35] <djlewis_> the ones I have wont match thread size :(
  • [17:56:10] <djlewis_> emeb: i'm so glad it wasnt one of those small caps , har har..
  • [17:56:29] <emeb> djlewis_: the 0402s? I hear you
  • [17:56:53] <djlewis_> yep, they look to be a qtr the size of the 0802
  • [17:57:15] <emeb> smallest I work with by choice is 0603
  • [17:57:23] <koen> prpplague: http://www.observer.com/2010/real-estate/man-builds-nuclear-reactor-bed-stuy-warehouse-0
  • [17:57:26] <djlewis_> the dot on the top rear of the cap is a perm marker for what should be the negative
  • [17:57:48] <emeb> djlewis_: ??? That's a ceramic cap - no pos/neg
  • [17:58:21] <djlewis_> i'm old fashioned about electrolytics.
  • [17:58:31] <emeb> djlewis_: not electrolytic!!
  • [17:58:42] <emeb> ceramic != electrolytic
  • [17:58:44] <sistlajr> any inputs on vmalloctotal calculation in /proc/meminfo
  • [17:59:14] <djlewis_> well, that could have saved me 2 hours of trying to find the polarity for the damn chip
  • [17:59:20] <emeb> :)
  • [18:01:15] <djlewis_> emeb: yeah, btw it only measures 3.3uf now where c85 reads about 34uf
  • [18:01:32] <emeb> that's odd
  • [18:01:37] <djlewis_> i thought so too
  • [18:01:45] <djlewis_> thats in circuit of course
  • [18:02:12] <emeb> ah - maybe there's loading that prevents accurate measurement
  • [18:02:20] <djlewis_> perhaps I best measure the spare i have out of circuit. chance i got wrong part shipped to me.
  • [18:02:28] <emeb> good idea
  • [18:02:56] <djlewis_> if I can clamp it down so it doesn not blow or flip away :)
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  • [18:30:30] <koen> from specialcomp?
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  • [18:30:53] <GMC_> yes..special white label
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  • [18:34:26] <koen> Bill said he'd use MLO for wince as well when I talked to him about it
  • [18:35:24] <GMC_> ah, so the MLO is the same for wince as for linux distros.. Not sure how this part works..
  • [18:37:01] <koen> MLO sets up ram and stuff and boots the seconds stage loader
  • [18:37:08] <koen> which can be uboot or wince-loader
  • [18:41:09] <GMC_> ok probably uboot for this purposes
  • [18:41:57] <GMC_> Texas Instruments X-Loader 1.4.4ss (Sep 22 2010 - 16:12:19) Unknown chip: mfr was 0x00, id was 0x00 Unsupported Chip! Error message I see on rig
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  • [19:57:09] <djlewis_> emeb: gotta order 2 to justify shipping :P
  • [19:59:10] <ninksink> Anyone have success with lilliput touch screens?
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  • [20:02:48] <emeb> djlewis_: just got mine!
  • [20:03:17] <djlewis_> yep I see avnet is your neighbor :)
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  • [20:03:43] <djlewis_> you should have dropped in and saved the shipping
  • [20:03:46] <emeb> FedEx overnight for the price of ground
  • [20:03:52] <emeb> Don't think they do will-call
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  • [20:04:03] <djlewis_> did you req ovnite?
  • [20:04:15] <emeb> no. just works out that way
  • [20:04:25] <emeb> need? what is this 'need' word?
  • [20:04:25] <djlewis_> my cart offered fedex gnd by def
  • [20:05:02] <emeb> same here - that's what I chose.
  • [20:05:34] <emeb> comes in a plastic blister-pak with a cardboard insert.
  • [20:05:47] <emeb> looks like something off-the rack at Best-Buy
  • [20:05:58] <djlewis_> hehee
  • [20:06:10] <djlewis_> is that .1" header spacing?
  • [20:06:19] <emeb> yep
  • [20:10:12] <djlewis_> whats this business of charging tax for out of state?
  • [20:12:17] <emeb> annoying
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  • [20:18:37] <djlewis_> sticklers for billing address info too.
  • [20:18:59] <djlewis_> I hace to abbreviate as my add't is too long to fit most boxes
  • [20:19:04] <djlewis_> add'y
  • [20:19:15] <emeb> wow - the USB on that STM board emulates a USB Storage device with a few files on it
  • [20:19:26] <djlewis_> interesting
  • [20:19:36] <emeb> mounts on my Fedora system as a tiny drive w/ 3 files on it
  • [20:19:44] <djlewis_> my order will be reviewed, how sweet
  • [20:19:54] <emeb> just URLs back to the ST website
  • [20:20:07] <djlewis_> adds
  • [20:20:34] <emeb> fills the syslog up w/ error msgs too - must be a sloppy implementation
  • [20:20:43] <djlewis_> ugh
  • [20:25:45] <djlewis_> my syslog is already being filled by ACPI Error msgs
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  • [20:41:11] <sistlajr> any inputs on vmalloctotal calculation in /proc/meminfo
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  • [20:54:44] <djlewis_> emeb: got it dancing to your tune yet? :)
  • [20:55:32] <emeb> not yet
  • [20:55:46] <emeb> grabbing a toolchain
  • [20:56:15] <djlewis_> the first one? free, no mem limit?
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  • [20:56:26] <emeb> yep
  • [20:56:35] <djlewis_> sounds cmd line doesnt it
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  • [20:57:51] <emeb> I read the docs on their website
  • [20:57:59] <emeb> actually the 'lite' version is GUI only
  • [20:58:10] <emeb> the 'pro' version has cmdline added
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  • [22:54:04] <dancios> is beagleboard xm is capable to encode and stream 480p h.264 in real time ?
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  • [23:11:38] <tharvey> dancios, yes DM3730 can do 720p H264 realtime
  • [23:13:13] <dancios> thx ? can i use h.264 encoder in gstreamer to put v4l2 stream on port ? :)
  • [23:13:28] <tharvey> yes, gstreamer-ti
  • [23:13:57] <tharvey> I use gstreamer-rtsp-server to create an rtsp server that streams it via UDP
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  • [23:14:20] <tharvey> RTSP takes the busy work out of dealing with RTP stream properties
  • [23:15:08] <tharvey> I've done all this on an OMAP3530 - not quite clear if the beagle-xm is up to par software wise but I know that the DM3730 can do 720p H264 where the OMAP3530 I use could not quite handle it in the DSP
  • [23:15:22] <dancios> im buidling system to take image from many autononymous robot to make 3d map is there any possibitty to synchronize frame time from multiple source by taging same frames with opencv or other solution ?
  • [23:15:23] <tharvey> I'm typically doing 320x240 or 640x480 on OMAP3530
  • [23:15:41] <tharvey> heh... damn, very close to what I do :P
  • [23:16:11] <tharvey> so your trying to do stereoscopic vision?
  • [23:16:17] <mru> omap3530 can do 720p if asked very nicely
  • [23:16:28] <tharvey> gstreamer will take timestamps from frame acquisition time - what is your camera source?
  • [23:16:55] <dancios> some cheap uvc camera :)
  • [23:16:59] <tharvey> mru, so I've heard... I never figured out how to talknice to it I suppose?
  • [23:17:33] <dancios> and with multiple modules the idea is to build 3d image of the room from multiple sources (few autonomic robots)
  • [23:17:36] <mru> it's not done with gstreamer
  • [23:18:30] <dancios> and i need some techniqe to take the frames in the same moment from multiple sources
  • [23:18:49] <dancios> and synchronize them on the server
  • [23:19:09] <mru> not possible without special cameras
  • [23:20:25] <dancios> but +-2-5 frame solution ? :D
  • [23:20:44] <dancios> or timestamps via opencv ?
  • [23:20:51] <dancios> and synchronize on serwer
  • [23:21:57] <mru> best you can do with standard consumer kit is synchronise the reference clocks and hope for the best
  • [23:22:57] <mru> ntp or similar should get the clocks within milliseconds of each other
  • [23:23:44] <dancios> milliseconds are fine :)
  • [23:24:15] <mru> the capture times will be off by up to half the frame period
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  • [23:24:30] <mru> frame period is typically 40ms
  • [23:24:39] <mru> and then there's jitter
  • [23:27:42] <dancios> is it hard to put in use gst-rtsp-server in angstrom distro ?
  • [23:31:01] <dancios> and pandapoard look so nice with integrated wi-fi <3 sad that not shiped yet to public market
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  • [23:36:02] <tharvey> dancios, you also will likely run into issues with USB bandwidth using uvc cams
  • [23:36:36] <tharvey> I investigated 4 uvc cams on the omap(3530) USB EHCI and ran into issues regarding not enough bandwidth
  • [23:39:37] <tharvey> I share cameras on a single capture port (custom camera solution) such that I sequence what camera is having a frame captured at a time - with that method you can't get frames at the exact same time but you at least know the deltaT between frames from various cams
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  • [23:45:05] <dancios> there will be only one camera per beagleboard and i have no idea wchich one to choose
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  • [23:58:49] <tharvey> dancios, which camera?
  • [23:59:49] <dancios> i need a simple camera for my project wchich support UVC and is working well with beagle