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[00:38:50] <ds2> 18 inch scope? is that for some huge cannon?
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[02:13:34] <djlewis> ds2: yep I here them called light cannons sometiimes
[02:13:49] <djlewis> I been out amplifying some photins.
[02:13:58] <djlewis> s/photins/photons
[02:14:15] <mru> how big did you make 'em?
[02:14:34] <djlewis> not bigger, but brighter :)
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[03:31:43] <jts438> hello
[03:32:20] <jts438> Is anyone awake in here?
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[03:33:39] <jts438> Hello
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[03:54:22] <ds2> Hmmmm
[03:55:20] <khem`> ds2 hey dude
[03:55:22] <ds2> sigh... wtf do people think it is okay for conflicting VBUS sources
[03:55:26] <ds2> hey khem
[03:55:32] <khem`> how are you
[03:55:53] <ds2> bored but otherwise good, yourself?
[03:56:16] <khem`> all ok here
[03:56:57] <ds2> anything new in toolchain land? :D
[03:57:05] <khem`> heh
[03:57:19] <khem`> hard-fp is not supported
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[03:57:27] <khem`> for arm
[03:57:50] <ds2> that might be why it is called 'hard' ;)
[03:57:59] <khem`> which should be interesting for cortexa9
[03:58:05] <khem`> err s/not/now
[03:58:24] <ds2> oh
[03:58:33] <khem`> I messed that message I meant its supported now
[03:59:46] <ds2> cool, now we can have binary incompatible ARM executables with matching endian :D
[03:59:59] <khem`> heh yes
[04:00:06] <khem`> you have to be careful
[04:00:15] <khem`> and know what you are doing
[04:00:44] <khem`> oh and you can compile everything in thumb2 including eglibc
[04:00:50] <khem`> I am not sure about kernel
[04:01:20] <ds2> ooooh uClinux on an M3!
[04:02:00] <khem`> hmm is someone working on that ?
[04:02:32] <ds2> actually, I donno... M0 would be niftier if it can be made to work
[04:02:56] <ds2> uClinux on a softcore ARM in an FPGA as a peripheral for a hardcore A9
[04:05:42] <topfs2> anyone here that might know about constraint satisfaction problems and could tell me how to turn a 3Sat non-binary CSP into a binary?
[04:07:09] <khem`> FPGA stuff
[04:07:14] * khem` has no clue
[04:13:48] <ds2> nice thing about an FPGA is you can do almost anything you want
[04:14:01] <ds2> the ARM cores targeted for FPGA are AFAIK, Thumb only
[04:18:07] <khem`> you mean thumb2
[04:19:02] <ds2> yeah
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[04:25:53] <ds2> hmmm
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[04:34:28] <_av500_> mmmh
[04:35:42] <sakoman> mmhmm
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[05:01:44] <emeb|mac> where'd all these scooby snacks come from?
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[05:07:21] <ds2> the scooby snack tree of course!
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[05:10:29] <emeb|mac> aha - the scooby snacks are getting ripe and falling off the tree now
[05:12:48] <_av500_> ds2: ill pick them up in person soon!
[05:13:44] <ds2> _av500_: are you leaving Sunday night?
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[05:16:10] <Zubair> Hello all
[05:17:09] <Zubair> Having some trouble installing DSPLink on BB
[05:17:19] <Zubair> using this site for reference
[05:17:20] <Zubair> http://ossie.wireless.vt.edu/trac/wiki/BeagleBoard_DSPLink
[05:17:43] <Zubair> it says that you should first have built the x11 image on OE directory.
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[05:17:56] <Zubair> I had used the Andstrom-image.
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[05:18:58] <Zubair> they say to make the angstrom image
[05:19:06] <Zubair> any help regarding this issue
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[05:31:02] <_av500_> that page is old
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[05:34:26] <_av500_> you can get dsplink all done in an narcissus image
[05:38:10] <hitlin37> which one is optimized on bb,if i want to decode a video stream (its in .ts)
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[05:41:49] <hitlin37> gstremer or can i use fmpeg for this purpose
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[05:42:00] <hitlin37> *ffmpeg
[05:51:08] <ds2>
[05:55:24] <ds2> arrrggggggg
[05:55:33] <emeb|mac> ??
[05:55:59] <ds2> FPC cable/LCD/case misalignment
[05:56:25] <emeb|mac> no damage hopefully...
[05:56:43] <ds2> no damage other then it not coming together
[05:57:06] <emeb|mac> back to the milling machine...
[05:57:31] <ds2> wonder if anyone makes 0.050 pitched perf board
[05:57:57] <emeb|mac> that would be something
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[05:59:43] <ds2> or even better 0.050x0.050 pitched mini ribbon cable
[06:00:16] <emeb|mac> for connection to the BB LCD conns?
[06:00:26] <ds2> yeah
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[06:00:38] <emeb|mac> would be nice
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[06:04:38] <emeb|mac> looks like 0.025" ribbon is available
[06:06:29] <emeb|mac> http://www.raycontech.com/Specifications.asp?nProductID=238
[06:07:59] <ds2> actually it is the connectors I need, cable I got a reel of
[06:09:49] <emeb|mac> that's the connectors...
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[06:15:33] <ds2> I could try to find out how F is the FPC ;)
[06:16:36] * emeb|mac doesn't know what FPC means
[06:17:01] <_av500_> first post count
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[06:17:37] <ds2> this is one of the joys of dealing with tight quarters in a near form fitting case
[06:18:04] <_av500_> ds2: welcome to the club
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[06:18:19] <ds2> _av500_: heh, done that before
[06:18:39] <_av500_> get your fpc made to order
[06:18:52] <_av500_> put a few components on it too
[06:19:09] <emeb|mac> flexible printed ckt?
[06:19:13] <ds2> won't help unless I had anticipated the need for a doglegged cable
[06:19:39] <ds2> I could make FPCs to order but at that point, it is easier to do the cad work and respin the case
[06:20:11] <ds2> custom FPCs aren't a big deal
[06:20:15] <_av500_> ds2: not if you have moulds in china :)
[06:20:25] <_av500_> molds?
[06:20:33] <_av500_> moles?
[06:20:38] <ds2> _av500_: BAH... rapid prototype off the CNC
[06:20:44] <emeb|mac> mushrooms
[06:20:45] <ds2> none of that transoceanic crap :P
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[06:22:22] <emeb|mac> just get it from your workshop, eh?
[06:22:29] <ds2> :D
[06:23:10] <emeb|mac> or have koen crank it out on his makerbot.
[06:23:34] <ds2> easier to pester someone to crank it out of a Dimension
[06:24:48] <emeb|mac> those are nifty
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[06:24:54] <emeb|mac> only $20k
[06:25:12] <ds2> they were quoting about 1/2 that
[06:25:54] <emeb|mac> ah - website says "starting at $19,900"
[06:26:15] <ds2> there is suppose to be a low cost module for less then that, IIRC
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[06:29:48] <emeb|mac> yep -uPrint - $15k. Only handles white ABS
[06:31:01] <emeb|mac> 0.010" resolution
[06:31:32] <tasslehoff> What file system do you run on mmc? I'm about to change my ext3-mounting to use ordered instead of writeback, but thought I'd take a few moments to consider if ext3 isn't the best choice.
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[06:33:21] <ds2> 0.010 is still better then makerbot, IIRC
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[07:36:12] <hitlin37> ffmpeg SVN r24596 on my bb?angstrom(8 sep),it says built with gcc 4.3.3,and one my x86 says FFmpeg version SVN-r24417 built on Jul 22 with gcc 4.4.1
[07:36:41] <hitlin37> how could the latest one is built on older version of gcc
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[07:39:46] <tasslehoff> because the x86 machine compiling used gcc 4.4.1 and oe used 4.3.3?
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[09:03:15] <koen> florian: any idea why the network bandwidth of ltg is measured in bits per seconds nowadays?
[09:03:28] <koen> florian: it's been really slow the past 3 weeks :(
[09:04:08] <florian> koen: i have no idea, but i'll ask nils to check what might be wrong
[09:04:47] <florian> three weeks means that it is not likely we met some limit so i guess the provider is guilty somehow
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[09:12:59] <tasslehoff> does ^^ have something to do with the speed downloading from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/?
[09:14:07] <av500> I get a "multiplication by zero" error when trying to download from there...
[09:17:34] <koen> florian: yeah, I was expecting it to get faster last friday (october 1st)
[09:17:47] <koen> florian: cpu, io and ram seem to be ok
[09:17:56] <koen> florian: but I can't see how loaded the network is
[09:18:12] <koen> it might be "maxed out" instead of "throttled"
[09:23:06] <florian> koen: we have a certain limit and when we exceed this some throtteling applies
[09:23:54] <florian> koen: but this limit is high and from waht i know we got a warning that we were close to that (monthly) limit once but usually do not hit this limit at all.
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[09:31:59] <rs_> is it possible to know which "sdio card is initialised"?
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[09:36:04] <hitlin37_> i got bus error at ff_fft_permute_neon from /usr/lib/libavcodec ,code works fine for x86,seems to b alignment issue,any suggestion,im using fft from ffmpeg in my app
[09:37:18] <av500> fix aligment
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[09:42:49] <hitlin37_> so ,input to av_fft_permute is not aligned i guess
[09:44:41] <hitlin37_> one more doubt,whatever is defined in DSS doc for clone,does that work for any tv?
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[09:45:19] <av500> hitlin37_: seems so
[09:45:32] <av500> wrt neon
[09:46:32] <hitlin37_> why replied in red color,what does it mean
[09:46:43] <av500> red?
[09:46:55] <jacekowski> highlight
[09:46:59] <av500> hitlin37_: like this?
[09:47:03] <jacekowski> hitlin37_: like that
[09:47:03] <av500> or this?
[09:47:09] <hitlin37_> ok
[09:47:19] <av500> hitlin37_: blue blue blue
[09:47:39] <jacekowski> colours
[09:48:05] <jacekowski> colours
[09:48:27] <hitlin37_> but doc says echo "0" > $ovl0/enabled,and it makes my dvi-d output go off,so what to do than
[09:49:26] <hitlin37_> if it amkes my screen off,then why its written there,or i understood wrongly
[09:50:01] <av500> hitlin37_: it is not the only instruction given there
[09:50:48] <av500> and yes, writing 0 to /enabled turns something off
[09:51:19] <hitlin37_> yes,n i followed step by step everything from clone overlay
[09:51:31] <av500> and?
[09:51:35] <hitlin37_> off
[09:51:40] <hitlin37_> my dvi-d off
[09:51:48] <av500> echo "1" > $ovl0/enabled
[09:51:53] <hitlin37_> so i couldn't proceed
[09:51:58] <av500> why not?
[09:52:20] <av500> it also turns your keyboard off?
[09:52:36] <hitlin37_> actually i coudn't see anything ,so i went for reboot
[09:52:38] <hitlin37_> no
[09:52:55] <av500> use serial console then
[09:52:57] <hitlin37_> DVI-s display said input not supported
[09:53:02] <av500> or write a script
[09:53:14] <hitlin37_> hmmm
[09:53:30] <av500> hitlin37_: yes, you turned DVI OFF, of course your monitor complains
[09:54:13] <hitlin37_> i will try with script then
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[09:55:22] <hitlin37_> last question,bus error always means alignment issues
[09:55:51] <av500> no, but aligment issue means bus error
[09:56:36] <hitlin37_> hmmm
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[10:01:46] <tasslehoff> hm. now my opkg update times out.
[10:03:03] <tasslehoff> koen: from my viewpoint it seems http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ is down.
[10:03:10] * tasslehoff hopes "for maintenance"
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[10:07:49] <koen> tasslehoff: see my conversation with florian earlier
[10:08:42] <tasslehoff> koen: saw that one. but it has dramatically worsened for me over the last few hours, so I thought I'd say it out loud
[10:09:52] <av500> tasslehoff: just state what you need here and koen will burn you a CD-R and ship it to you
[10:12:01] <tasslehoff> av500: cool! I want an image with kernel-module-rtc-twl and util-linux-ng, and a kernel with debug added that will show me why hwclock doesn't work on my system.
[10:12:20] <av500> for a "modest" handling fee?
[10:12:29] <tasslehoff> it's very nice of him to offer that service ;)
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[10:30:28] <jacekowski> tasslehoff: no battery
[10:30:31] <jacekowski> tasslehoff: that's why
[10:31:23] <tasslehoff> jacekowski: really? I have to have a battery for it to work when on power?
[10:31:50] <jacekowski> yep
[10:31:59] <jacekowski> rtc is not working without battery
[10:32:11] <jacekowski> but grounding battery pins may help as well
[10:32:27] <tasslehoff> jacekowski: ah. you probably made my day. thanks!!!!
[10:33:06] <jacekowski> basicaly if battery voltage is higher than supply voltage it will stop working
[10:33:25] <jacekowski> and ghost voltage with battery disconnected will be around supply voltage
[10:33:35] <jacekowski> so you either have to ground it or connect battery
[10:41:10] <hitlin37_> this mplayer only takes a part of file to play n it keeps replaying that only,but if im constantly adding data into my file,what to use for it(.ts file)
[10:42:35] <jacekowski> force it to open itas stream
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[10:48:24] <hitlin37_> ok
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[10:57:19] <tasslehoff> jacekowski: yep, the datasheet says a pin should be grounded if a backup battery is not used
[10:57:55] <av500> tasslehoff: so, go order GND from digikey
[10:58:48] <mru> do they have audio-grade gnd?
[10:59:10] <tasslehoff> heh, on my way
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[11:05:31] <jacekowski> tasslehoff: i know it does
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[11:35:36] <tasslehoff> jacekowski: Connecting a battery didn't do it. "hwclock.util-linux-ng --show" times out, so I suspect I have another problem.
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[13:19:31] <sakoman> koen: the latest sgx release won't build for linux-omap
[13:19:50] <sakoman> I think I'll be able to do a simple patch to get it to build
[13:20:05] <sakoman> (fingers crossed that it is only that one issue)
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[13:34:35] <fozay> hey all
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[13:35:12] <fozay> is there a different way to add headers into angstrom except kernel-headers
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[14:02:57] <koen> sakoman: I'm currently trying to get it to work on 816x, not omap3
[14:03:56] <koen> Crofton|work: 816x would be nice for you, ddr3, PCIe, SATA, floating point DSP..
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[14:05:12] <Crofton|work> what is the dev board situation?
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[14:06:46] <_koen_> Crofton|work: I just mailed you the situation :)
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[14:08:35] <eelister> Is the beagle board xm available to order and if a back log, what is the average wait time?
[14:08:51] <av500> you can order
[14:08:55] <av500> back log no idea
[14:09:10] <av500> no idea how long the wait is
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[14:18:08] <eelister> Who is the best supplier?
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[14:18:33] <eelister> Or should I say, seller of the XM???
[14:19:08] <av500> define "best"
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[14:20:12] <eelister> best as in most reliable. For a fair price.
[14:20:17] <av500> http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=9444
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[14:20:38] <av500> oops, thats not XM
[14:21:12] <eelister> Aaaa man. You got me all exited.
[14:21:38] <eelister> XM would be nice. I know I can get the C4, but would dig on the XM.
[14:22:23] <av500> http://specialcomp.com/beagleboard/xm.htm
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[18:24:22] <jd823592> Hello, is it possible to wake beagleboard over internet? (i dont know whether thats an issue of processor/board/other hardware/software.. to minimize power consumption.. does it work with i386 anyway?
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[18:42:30] <kblin> i386?
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[19:14:58] <ds2> Hmmm
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[19:19:04] <sbreuss> hi everyone... just unpacked and started my new beagleboard-xm. now i get strange kernel log messages "hub 1-2:1.0: over-current change on port 3" and 2 of my usb ports (host 1/2) are not working :( any hints / ideas?
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[19:21:36] <_av500_> what is connected?
[19:21:56] <mru> too much
[19:22:07] <fozay> hello all
[19:23:03] <sbreuss> just a logitech keyboard/mouse dongle for testing. it's working on ports 3/4 but not on port 1/2
[19:23:41] <mimcpher> Wireless? That may draw a significant chunk of current...
[19:26:02] <sbreuss> yes, it's wireless... but the error message was there before i connected the dongle. and it works on ports 3 and 4
[19:27:29] <ShadowJK> How much power is the XM able to provide on USB?
[19:27:45] <GeneralStupid> 100mW AFAIK
[19:28:19] <mru> mA more likely
[19:28:23] <mru> as that's the spec
[19:31:34] <sbreuss> just used my usb thumb drive for testing, shows the same result... working on ports 3/4 and not working on 1/2
[19:38:09] <ds2> what's a factor of 5 between friends
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[20:41:48] <djlewis_1> hmm, work is all caught up at the office... :(
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[20:45:09] <emeb> now what do you do with the rest of the afternoon?
[20:45:20] <_av500_> pizzabeer
[20:45:39] <djlewis_1> umm
[20:45:57] <mru> could start friday early
[20:46:31] <djlewis_1> kinda thinkin on taking off tomorrow anyway. Did yesterday cause no work.
[20:48:09] <klaas__> if I want to generate 1.8V from a specific GPIO should I just add OMAP3_MUX(CSI2_DX1, OMAP_MUX_MODE4 | OMAP_PIN_OUTPUT), to the board_mux or do I need to do something special?
[20:48:36] <djlewis_1> i dont think you would actually generate 1.8v without a generator ;)
[20:49:06] <djlewis_1> or perhaps some well regulated static electricity
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[20:50:41] <mru> 1.8V can easily be sucked out of the air
[20:50:47] <mru> if you don't need much current
[20:52:27] <emeb> zero-point energy FTW!
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[22:03:17] <ds2> urb urbs all over the place and not a single urb to use :(
[22:03:27] <djlewis_1> hmm, my beagleboard@gouglegroups.com mail got lost in my spambox today..
[22:05:17] <ds2> stop spamming? :D
[22:06:20] <mru> ds2: reminds me of coleridge...
[22:06:34] <ds2> coleridge?
[22:07:41] <emeb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rime_of_the_Ancient_Mariner
[22:07:44] <mru> water, water everwhere, nor any drop to drink
[22:07:55] <ds2> oh the original
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[22:08:12] * mru guesses ds2 read it in adams
[22:08:34] <ds2> don't recall where i came across it
[22:08:59] <ds2> oh how I long for the return of musb :/
[22:09:28] <mru> you must be in some extra special level of hell right now
[22:09:36] <mru> in order to long for that
[22:09:53] <ds2> musb code is half way sane
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[22:10:07] <mru> too bad the same can't be said of the hardware
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[22:10:29] <_av500_> ds2: what did you get yourself into?
[22:10:42] <ds2> _av500_: I am not allow to comment on that :(
[22:10:42] <mru> _av500_: a pickle, by the looks of it
[22:10:52] <mru> pickled nda, yummy
[22:11:28] <_av500_> ds2: you and your silly secrecy
[22:11:31] <ds2> it would be less irritating if I didn't have to convince someone that 2 voltage sources driving each other is a bad thing
[22:11:37] <_av500_> tell me or I will blog about it
[22:11:51] <ds2> *shrug*
[22:17:15] <geanchu> hello everyone
[22:17:44] <geanchu> I'm trying to build the coredruids android
[22:18:06] <dm8tbr> yet-another android port?
[22:18:13] <geanchu> yep
[22:18:57] <mru> the machines have only reached the evolutionary stage of rabbits so far
[22:19:06] <geanchu> when the linux kernel loads up, it can't recognize the partition table
[22:19:33] <geanchu> I'm pretty sure the problem isn't with the sdcard
[22:20:13] <geanchu> when I boot with the same rootfs, but with another kernel version (2.6.29) it recognizes the partition table
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[22:21:26] <geanchu> but then it crashes further on...due incompatibilities with the rootfs version
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[22:21:38] <geanchu> any ideas?
[22:22:10] <geanchu> There is something very wrong here...I can't understand how only embinux works....
[22:22:27] <_av500_> mru: rabbits would imply they do it by themselves
[22:22:41] <_av500_> this is more like bacteria
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[22:25:16] * emeb just noticed linux.ports.arm.omap again. seems pretty busy...
[22:26:42] <_av500_> hmm
[22:27:47] <_av500_> looks like linux-omap to me
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[22:30:21] <emeb> ah - just one of the 'groups' I had subscribed to on gmane
[22:30:26] <emeb> but I rarely look at that
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[22:58:15] <djlewis_1> bbl...
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