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  • [13:53:05] * Set by likewise on Tue Nov 17 16:28:25 CST 2009
  • [13:53:10] <jkridner|work> there we go.
  • [13:53:16] <av500> attabot
  • [13:53:29] <jkridner|work> hope nothing fun was said over the last 33 or so hours. :)
  • [13:53:35] <av500> nah
  • [13:53:55] <peterretief> just me whining
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  • [13:54:04] <jkridner|work> git patches to the logs (or to the functionality of the website) are always welcome. :)
  • [13:54:04] <peterretief> BeagleBot: helloo
  • [13:54:13] <jkridner|work> BeagleBot is antisocial.
  • [13:54:27] * mru kicks BeagleBot
  • [13:54:33] <peterretief> botsnack
  • [13:57:51] <jkridner|work> the BeagleBot source is at http://www.beagleboard.org/gitweb/?p=beagleboard.org.git;a=summary if someone wants to submit patches to make it smarter.
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  • [14:02:50] <Sog> hihi :)
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  • [14:16:03] <djlewis> gm
  • [14:16:16] <av500> gm
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  • [14:17:09] <djlewis> jkridner:its probably been mentioned that it appears the irc log is stopped.
  • [14:17:26] <mru> djlewis: he restarted it already
  • [14:17:45] <djlewis> cool
  • [14:17:52] <jkridner> djlewis: I noticed it myself. not sure if anyone tried to ping me on it.
  • [14:17:53] <djlewis> I missed getting to catch up
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  • [14:21:03] * djlewis is not looking forward to carrying a 21" CRT monitor downstairs :(
  • [14:21:15] <mru> better than carrying it up
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  • [14:21:34] <djlewis> yep, did that several years back
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  • [14:21:51] <mru> ah, when you were younger and stronger
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  • [14:21:59] <djlewis> har har
  • [14:22:08] <Sog> hehe..
  • [14:22:09] <djlewis> but true
  • [14:23:25] <djlewis> ah, but it is a beautiful am here in central US
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  • [16:01:45] <crazy_pete> lol glad tis a beautiful morning for you
  • [16:01:51] <crazy_pete> djlewis,
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  • [16:05:49] <djlewis> well we have had many days ot too hot and humid and not cloudy but whit skies.
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  • [16:10:29] <djlewis> crazy_pete: http://weather.djlewis.us/
  • [16:12:10] <crazy_pete> i am in Marin County California
  • [16:12:16] <crazy_pete> just over the ridge from the Pacific Ocean
  • [16:12:24] <crazy_pete> it is the first overcast morning in 6 months
  • [16:12:29] <crazy_pete> rainy season be here soon
  • [16:14:19] <av500> djlewis: he, saw you at the outhouse at 8:05:57 today...
  • [16:15:03] <djlewis> av500: yep, having my morning coffee aith thesounds of morning :0
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  • [16:19:08] <djlewis> I moved here nine years ago and my hardwood tree line has come up about 6ft since. low horizon is dissappearing.
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  • [16:19:31] <mru> djlewis: no chainsaw?
  • [16:20:22] <av500> mru: out there they use fragmentation grenades...
  • [16:20:40] <djlewis> hehee. no we do have some 50mm in the neighborhood
  • [16:21:08] <djlewis> I would like to top the trees rather than cut them down.
  • [16:21:37] <mru> hmm, that calls for more sophisticated equipment
  • [16:21:47] <mru> a high-power laser should do it
  • [16:21:54] <mru> _very_ high power
  • [16:21:58] <djlewis> hmmm, interesting
  • [16:22:22] <djlewis> i'll bbl, gotta head out..
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  • [16:44:21] <peterretief> halo
  • [16:44:48] <peterretief> whats exciting happening with beagle?
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  • [17:28:39] <eFfeM> is the XM validation/demo image available for download somewhere, or do I have to build my own
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  • [17:46:09] <sakoman> koen: just saw your gcc commit. will that require a clean build afterwards?
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  • [17:46:36] <koen> the commit or the revert?
  • [17:46:43] <koen> if it's the commit, read the commit message
  • [17:47:13] <_av500_> koen is committed to gcc?
  • [17:49:02] <sakoman> koen: I am referring to the revert -- after building with the original patch, will a build after the revert "just work" or will a clean build be required?
  • [17:50:18] <sakoman> there's no PR bump so the next build won't rebuild any gcc stuff
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  • [17:52:16] <koen> sakoman: it will just work
  • [17:52:42] <sakoman> koen: OK, thanks!
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  • [17:56:47] <gst-kaps1> can beagleborad be used for two way video streaming ?
  • [17:57:08] <_av500_> depends
  • [17:57:53] <gst-kaps1> _av500_:depends on ?
  • [17:58:04] <koen> full duplex 4k h264 streams?
  • [17:58:16] <_av500_> 2x qvga should be ok
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  • [17:59:21] <gst-kaps1> at what bitrate ?
  • [17:59:39] <_av500_> a reasonable one
  • [18:00:01] <gst-kaps1> because I was able to develop a video conf solution using TI gstreamer plugins
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  • [18:00:20] <gst-kaps1> and if I use a rate of 200 kbps or so it seems decent
  • [18:00:29] <_av500_> on what platform?
  • [18:00:38] <gst-kaps1> beagleboard C3
  • [18:01:06] <_av500_> you was able? so you did it?
  • [18:01:15] <gst-kaps1> yes
  • [18:01:26] <_av500_> so why do you ask?
  • [18:01:43] <gst-kaps1> since the bitrate if I use is low it seems ok
  • [18:01:53] <gst-kaps1> but if I increase above 200kbps
  • [18:02:08] <gst-kaps1> it drops , blockiness etc
  • [18:02:17] <gst-kaps1> and I am on LAN
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  • [18:02:26] <gst-kaps1> so thats weired ?
  • [18:02:49] <_av500_> no, wired
  • [18:03:01] <gst-kaps1> :)
  • [18:03:30] <gst-kaps1> _av500_:I mean shouldnt LAN be supporting a good datarate
  • [18:03:51] <_av500_> yes
  • [18:04:31] <gst-kaps1> so I am asking to understand if there is any issue with USB interface of beagle or any IO issue
  • [18:04:33] <koen> on beagle you can cheat by doing the encode on dsp and decode on arm
  • [18:05:05] <gst-kaps1> koen: I am doing both encode + decode on DSP
  • [18:05:14] <_av500_> koen: you might push it to vga that way
  • [18:05:22] <gst-kaps1> koen: would that be an issue ?
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  • [18:06:30] <koen> if you want maximum quality a split solution would be the way to go
  • [18:06:45] <koen> but first you need to know where the bottlenecks are
  • [18:07:13] <_av500_> koen: mostly near the top
  • [18:07:19] <gst-kaps1> koen:how do I figure that out ?
  • [18:07:22] <gst-kaps1> any clues
  • [18:08:07] <koen> profiling
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  • [18:09:44] <_av500_> printfing
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  • [18:10:10] <cwillu_at_work> what's the availability of rev c4 like these days?
  • [18:11:48] <cwillu_at_work> digikey says it's backordered on the manufacturer
  • [18:13:16] <djlewis_> bbl
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  • [18:13:42] <cwillu_at_work> hmm, mouser seems to have ots
  • [18:13:45] <cwillu_at_work> er, lots
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  • [18:16:24] <gst-kaps1> koen: did a simple test , dumped a file just before decoding and that shows same artifacts using a gst-launch pipe, doesnt that mean there are trasnmission loasses ?
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  • [19:07:13] <peterretief> is Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo a good base to start developing from?
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  • [19:12:50] <koen> peterretief: http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/?id=30
  • [19:13:53] <_av500_> mru: can you move that one to id=3?
  • [19:14:47] <peterretief> koen: ha
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  • [19:15:12] <peterretief> i have been waiting an hour for it to download ;(
  • [19:15:59] <peterretief> trying to build up some excitement
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  • [19:21:54] <peterretief> BeagleBot: what is pdp - 11 ?
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  • [19:23:16] <peterretief> BeagleBot: speak!
  • [19:23:41] <djlewis_> someone is bored and reading 26 + 26 = 54?
  • [19:23:59] <peterretief> ja waiting for a download
  • [19:24:37] <peterretief> why 26+26?
  • [19:24:49] <mru> and why 54?
  • [19:25:08] <djlewis_> and why do you ask why
  • [19:25:41] <mru> a meta-question
  • [19:25:43] * jedix_ is now known as jedix
  • [19:26:35] <peterretief> should i ask?
  • [19:26:55] <djlewis_> would you feel better if you were to ask?
  • [19:27:15] <mru> is asking about asking correctly temred meta-asking?
  • [19:27:18] <mru> *termed
  • [19:27:21] <peterretief> this isnt the emacs dr is it ;)
  • [19:27:38] <djlewis_> would you like this to be the emacs dr?
  • [19:27:40] <_av500_> professionals these days...
  • [19:27:45] <peterretief> ha
  • [19:28:13] <peterretief> how d i get the bot to e\respond
  • [19:28:24] <_av500_> hack into the server it runs on
  • [19:28:28] * mru made a dr emacs bot once
  • [19:28:36] <peterretief> i could browse over to the code
  • [19:28:51] <mru> I crudely translated the lisp code into perl
  • [19:28:56] <peterretief> mru: its quite cool
  • [19:29:20] <Crofton> koen, any gui irc programs in the feeds for armv7
  • [19:29:30] <mru> then duct-taped that onto a java client for some weird chat server they'd made at uni
  • [19:29:39] <mru> "they" above == mru
  • [19:29:43] <peterretief> eek
  • [19:29:54] <koen> Crofton: xchat?
  • [19:30:02] <mru> and then I had the poor studends write their own clients
  • [19:30:06] <mru> students
  • [19:30:20] <Crofton> Inknown package ?
  • [19:30:24] <peterretief> tcp clients?
  • [19:30:27] <mru> xterm+irssi?
  • [19:30:30] <Crofton> Unknown ....
  • [19:30:39] <djlewis_> mru: must be older than he looks ;)
  • [19:31:00] <mru> djlewis_: how so?
  • [19:31:18] <djlewis_> mru: (2:30:02 PM) mru: and then I had the poor studends write their own clients
  • [19:31:30] <mru> yes, what of it?
  • [19:31:30] <djlewis_> makes you sound like the teqacher
  • [19:31:36] <mru> I was the TA
  • [19:31:37] <djlewis_> teacher..
  • [19:31:41] <djlewis_> cool
  • [19:31:54] <mru> and I was about 22 at the time
  • [19:32:07] <peterretief> teaching at 22
  • [19:32:44] <djlewis_> figures
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  • [19:33:00] <peterretief> my birthday is on the 22 of this month
  • [19:33:32] <likewise> anyone got a good source for the RS232 IDC->DB9 ATI-Everex cables? (or is it a straight-through 10 pin flat cable between and IDC and DC9 IDC connector)?
  • [19:34:08] <peterretief> likewise: crimper?
  • [19:34:38] <mru> likewise: flat-cable crimp-on db9 is wrong
  • [19:35:01] <_av500_> likewise: solder 3 wires by hand
  • [19:35:03] <peterretief> it can be done
  • [19:35:54] <likewise> _av500_: ok
  • [19:36:18] <koen> being a TA can be a pain in the ass
  • [19:36:21] <peterretief> i used to make up specialized cables
  • [19:36:31] <koen> like teaching crosscompiling during a java course
  • [19:36:35] * koen stabs JNI
  • [19:37:38] <_av500_> koen: what happened to java write once etc...
  • [19:38:04] <peterretief> i think the write once got extended
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  • [19:38:25] <mru> koen: being a TA is fine when you get to define much of the course
  • [19:38:27] <_av500_> but now it needs to be cross compiled as well it seems
  • [19:40:12] <koen> mru: it ended up me getting payed to sit students in front of a computer and having them press enter
  • [19:40:24] <koen> sun cvm licensing was a bitch back then
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  • [19:50:35] <djlewis_> being a TA is a way for teachers to gake a break and still bet paid.
  • [19:50:39] <djlewis_> take
  • [19:50:46] <djlewis_> get
  • [19:50:49] <djlewis_> argh
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  • [19:51:41] <mru> that may be
  • [19:51:52] <mru> but inflicting pain on unsuspecting students can be fun too
  • [19:51:57] <djlewis_> hehee
  • [19:52:18] <mru> it was always fun catching them trying to cheat on their assignments
  • [19:52:21] <mru> how they squirmed
  • [19:53:15] * dm8tbr substituted for his aunt at the higher school of arts a few time where she teaches english.
  • [19:53:39] <dm8tbr> I think most of the time the students liked me, even when I made them go through the assignments
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  • [19:57:44] <djlewis_> dang computer, i clicked on my inbox and it shutoff.
  • [19:59:05] <_av500_> djlewis_: its called a virus, go install linux
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  • [20:02:25] <djlewis_> _av500_: i keep an old worn out compaq with bulging caps under the work table here that runs linux.
  • [20:02:35] <koen> Crofton: xchat should in
  • [20:02:41] <djlewis_> and I have to run windoze on the workstation :(
  • [20:03:56] <Crofton> root@usrp-embedded:~# opkg install xchat
  • [20:03:57] <Crofton> Unknown package 'xchat'.
  • [20:05:00] <koen> opkg update?
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  • [20:05:13] <koen> is that next or unstable?
  • [20:05:20] <Crofton> unstable
  • [20:05:25] <Crofton> er next
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  • [20:06:01] <koen> that will take till tomorrow morning :)
  • [20:06:14] <Crofton> ok
  • [20:06:21] <Crofton> there is some comedy factor involved
  • [20:06:47] <koen> you can watch the new episode of the closer and then do opkg update
  • [20:09:19] <_av500_> is next the next unstable or the next stable?
  • [20:09:33] <koen> unstable
  • [20:09:36] <_av500_> or will unstable be stable next?
  • [20:09:52] <koen> unstable will replace stable/2009
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  • [20:20:29] <Crofton> rofl
  • [20:20:56] <_av500_> Crofton: just wait, you're next!
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  • [20:29:29] <crazy_pete> when i download and unpack the prebuilt toolchain, angstrom-2010.4-test-20100421-x86_64-linux-armv7a-linux-gnueabi-toolchain-qte-4.6.2 , it won't require bitbake to run, will it ? It is just a tool chain using standard make, etc, right?
  • [20:31:17] <crazy_pete> (it won't require any other python 5 for that matter, please? :)
  • [20:37:39] <koen> go to angstrom-distribution.org and read the front page
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  • [20:45:04] <_av500_> koen: thats absurd!
  • [20:47:13] <crazy_pete> thanks i thought i read somewhere last night that it wouldn't require python to host the toolchain but i wanted to be sure
  • [20:47:49] <koen> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/?id=30
  • [20:48:41] <crazy_pete> actually koen is right too i should either find this in the wiki or update the wiki like the frontpage says
  • [20:49:17] <crazy_pete> lol well re rule #3 i was trying to save all that but i have 34 minutes left on downloading the toolchain :)
  • [20:49:32] <crazy_pete> i hope the one i posted above is the RIGHT toolchain since it takes 3 hours to download :)
  • [20:51:27] <ds2> hmmmm
  • [20:52:32] <crazy_pete> but doing a 3 hour download to find out is a bit absurd :)
  • [20:53:19] <crazy_pete> but there is always a silver lining now it says 4 minutes to finish downloading :)
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  • [21:00:26] <koen> Crofton: xchat is in
  • [21:00:54] <crazy_pete> ok nothing really relevant appears about "python" in the wiki search nor in the manual or FAQ
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  • [21:03:14] <crazy_pete> ok cool i unzipped it is just a plain gnu gxx toolchain :)
  • [21:04:16] <mru> almost everything is
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  • [21:05:56] <crazy_pete> error while loading shared libraries: libmpfr.so.1: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
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  • [21:06:20] <mru> mixing 32-bit and 64-bit libs?
  • [21:06:54] <crazy_pete> obviously :)
  • [21:07:12] <mru> then you know as much as I do
  • [21:07:20] <crazy_pete> one would think that shouldn't happen when downloading a prebuilt toolchain that was supposed to be prebuilt for x86_64 :)
  • [21:07:24] <Crofton> koen, it works
  • [21:07:29] <djlewis_> ds2: feeling better?
  • [21:08:15] <crazy_pete> so not only does this not build without the special python, the people who build it for you don't know what they are doing either and it is all because of the special bitbake that makes it so easy to tweak builds? :)
  • [21:08:23] <crazy_pete> sorry guys, but i can't resist :)
  • [21:08:37] <crazy_pete> i spent a lot of time playing with this :)
  • [21:09:18] * mru builds his own compilers
  • [21:10:14] <crazy_pete> cant build this one because of bitbake
  • [21:10:40] * crazy_pete was warned, saw PLENTY of webpages that said in different words "don't be lured by OE, bitbake negates their entire effort"
  • [21:10:53] <crazy_pete> sadly i guess it is like gems and ruby
  • [21:11:35] <crazy_pete> well i DID spend an entire evening messing with it and i DID download the prebuilt toolchain and the prebuilt toolchain was an immediate failure
  • [21:11:53] <crazy_pete> and a 64/32 bit error message failure, as is the case when not building stuff yourself
  • [21:12:11] <crazy_pete> you guys have a real PR problem here whether or not politics permit you to admit it
  • [21:12:28] <crazy_pete> boost is slowly moving away from bjam from this reason
  • [21:12:47] <crazy_pete> i am honestly sorry if i am gruff and rude about it
  • [21:14:02] <crazy_pete> and i am guessing if i bother to install a DIFFERENT linux host with a different python setup this will work fine
  • [21:14:55] <crazy_pete> but i don't want to be the flowery python guru to develop embedded stuff even though python is definately on the MUST DO list to learn
  • [21:15:07] <killring> crazy_pete: so do you ever stop whining?
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  • [21:15:47] <crazy_pete> i was trying to spin this into good advice, if that is YOUR reaction, killring , i have a good chance of having been successful :)
  • [21:15:55] <crazy_pete> thank you :)
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  • [21:17:29] <ds2> djlewis: yes, thank you.
  • [21:21:56] <djlewis_> :)
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  • [21:30:37] <crazy_pete> i just built an arm gnu g++ toolchain, not an angstrom OE one, but one for generic ARM. I haven't tested the output on angstrom/beagleboard but it GENERATES output which is further than i get with the angstrome prebuilt toolchain
  • [21:31:01] <crazy_pete> if who ever built the prebuilt wants to pm me i will help them in getting a WORKING prebuilt
  • [21:31:13] <crazy_pete> just so that i am contributing something as well as whinging :)
  • [21:31:41] <crazy_pete> so if you are interested you can PM me
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  • [21:37:44] <crazy_pete> (remember i cannot just do it myself and add it to the wiki because compiling it myself requires bitbake which requires a different version of linux or a bunch of python hacking etc etc etc)
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  • [21:39:13] <likewise> crazy_pete: the OE toolchain builds on almost any host. it's nice that you've mastered some of it, but please do not teach us how stuff works. Some of the best compiler guys contributed months of their effort into it -- believe me, you cannot beat that.
  • [21:39:53] <crazy_pete> seems like i already have since it took me three minutes to build a working toolchain , likewise :)
  • [21:40:25] <crazy_pete> but i am just offering to help
  • [21:40:30] <likewise> crazy_pete: yes, because others made that work for you.
  • [21:40:57] <likewise> crazy_pete: and you must have a very fast machine if it compiles a toolchain in <3 minutes.
  • [21:41:19] <crazy_pete> i built a working toolchain out of bare gnu stuff completely devoid of OE/angstrom stuff
  • [21:41:32] <crazy_pete> i am not sure if a static executable will run under angstrom tbh
  • [21:41:40] <likewise> crazy_pete: I just type "bitbake gcc-cross" and I have a working toolchain for ANY host, ANY target.
  • [21:41:49] <crazy_pete> but at least i know the toolchain produces output which is more than the prebuilt does
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  • [21:42:00] <crazy_pete> which is fine but requires bitbake likewise
  • [21:42:16] <likewise> crazy_pete: no, the prebuilt just doesn't work on your system.
  • [21:42:22] <crazy_pete> nor does bitbake likewise
  • [21:42:45] <crazy_pete> which is WHY i offered to help someone else create a prebuilt that will run on this system since i cannot do it myself
  • [21:42:47] <tharvey> anyone working with a BeagleBoard-xM prototype? trying to find info on OMAP3530 vs OMAP3730 - is it pin compatible, what all the diffs are, what kernel support is present etc
  • [21:42:57] <tharvey> have found http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/OMAP35x_To_AM37x_Hardware_Migration_Guide
  • [21:43:05] <crazy_pete> (since i cannot run bitbake for the reasons i did overly whine about previously :)
  • [21:43:30] <likewise> crazy_pete: ok, cool, it's good to do things yourself to learn. but after a year or so, you are just re-inventing buildroot, or crossgcc, or crossgcc-ng, openembedded, or T2 or scratchbox or any other similar project. Been there, done that.
  • [21:44:13] <crazy_pete> and yer right it probably took more than 3 minutes to compile, i had a cup of coffee and zoned out looking at the trees, to be honest :)
  • [21:44:30] <likewise> crazy_pete: can you create a private channel in 3 minutes?
  • [21:44:32] <crazy_pete> no i am not reinventing anything :)
  • [21:44:51] <crazy_pete> how about 30 likewise ?
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  • [21:45:14] <crazy_pete> but yeah i offered a pm i can wait sure pm me in 3 minutes
  • [21:45:16] <likewise> yep that'll do to cope with the flood
  • [21:45:25] <crazy_pete> am i flooding?
  • [21:45:37] <crazy_pete> i thought this was a low traffic channel, i will just shut it then
  • [21:45:46] <crazy_pete> sorry seriously
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  • [21:45:55] <likewise> no it's ok.
  • [21:46:09] <likewise> everyone's here to learn something new
  • [21:46:18] <crazy_pete> and actually i didn't reinvent cross tool i USED cross tool :)
  • [21:46:47] <likewise> it's just, if something doesn't work for you, either ask reasonable questions to make it work, or suggest a fix yourself pls.
  • [21:49:31] <crazy_pete> i thought i suggested 2?
  • [21:49:43] <crazy_pete> 1) abandon bitbake, it negates OE
  • [21:50:17] <crazy_pete> 2) if someone wants, i will assist them in PM in setting up a prebuilt for stock centos 5.5, and put the info in the wiki
  • [21:50:44] <crazy_pete> but i cannot do that myself today because i haven't time to download different versions of linux until i find a config that runs bitbake
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  • [22:01:06] <likewise> crazy_pete: bitbake negates oe, like make negates C
  • [22:01:26] <likewise> crazy_pete: OE is much more than building a toolchain, there's thousands of other packages there.
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  • [22:01:32] <crazy_pete> no because make is a standard
  • [22:01:38] <crazy_pete> runs everywhere
  • [22:01:43] <crazy_pete> bitbake doesn't run HERE
  • [22:01:52] <likewise> crazy_pete: make doesn't work on my c64
  • [22:01:58] <mru> make is not suitable for what bitbake does
  • [22:02:07] <crazy_pete> lol i bet it does run on a c64
  • [22:02:18] <likewise> crazy_pete: so does bitbake
  • [22:02:23] <crazy_pete> ?
  • [22:02:41] <likewise> !
  • [22:02:43] <crazy_pete> not sure if i should respond, i don't want to flood m seriously
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  • [22:08:27] <crazy_pete> so does bitbake what? run on a c64 ? i guess if you have the right python setup it does
  • [22:10:53] <likewise> crazy_pete: exactly, the same with make on c64. If you have the right setup, it works.
  • [22:11:20] <likewise> crazy_pete: it's a general rule in engineering: If you have the right setup, it works.
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  • [22:12:10] <likewise> crazy_pete: want to approach the bitbake problem with that insight? bitbake is just a bit more specific on what is "right". It has stricter dependencies than "hello world" or even "make".
  • [22:12:27] <likewise> that's because bitbake is a more powerful tool than make
  • [22:12:41] <likewise> like OE is a more powerful build system than crosstool
  • [22:13:06] <likewise> more powerful as in more complex also.
  • [22:13:35] <likewise> but this is all off-topic here, so I end my return ramblings here.
  • [22:14:28] <mru> comparing bitbake to make is an error
  • [22:14:37] <mru> they solve different problems
  • [22:14:45] <mru> is ls more or less complex than cp?
  • [22:15:05] <mru> the answer is they both do a good job
  • [22:19:49] <ds2> bitbake is a massive python script used to screw with people's minds.
  • [22:19:56] <ds2> the closest analogy to make is scons
  • [22:20:14] <ds2> getting images out of bitbake is just a nice side effect ;)
  • [22:21:09] <mru> make is by far the best tool for that type of task
  • [22:23:55] <crazy_pete> i am sure that bitbake can do things make cannot
  • [22:24:13] <ds2> and i am sure you can do things an ape cannot :D
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  • [22:24:25] <crazy_pete> but it is still a "no go" afaict for all of OE in this application and i think a guy may actually get fired for it
  • [22:24:37] <crazy_pete> i admit i am going off a bit
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  • [22:24:55] <crazy_pete> but this guy was told he was a script kiddie with no place in an embedded shop and to shape up or ship out
  • [22:25:07] <crazy_pete> and if his next solution involved a scripting language he was fired
  • [22:25:27] <crazy_pete> turns it just doesnt INVOLVE a scripting language, it is a NO GO because of it! bwhahahahaha
  • [22:26:22] <cecil_lincher> Hi guys. Sorry in advance for the newbie question: Anybody use the following AC Adaptor with their Beagleboard XM? http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=T1022-P5P-ND The adapter from digikey that's mentioned in the manual seems to be discontinued
  • [22:26:53] <djlewis_> many usb hub power supplies will work
  • [22:27:18] <djlewis_> just need 5Vdc at 1 or 2 amps on the center pin
  • [22:27:40] <cecil_lincher> Ok cool, mainly what i was wondering was if 2.5A is too much
  • [22:27:44] <djlewis_> no
  • [22:27:50] <djlewis_> only draws what it needs
  • [22:28:01] <cecil_lincher> oh awesome. thanks
  • [22:28:17] <djlewis_> But, the more amperage, the more magic smoke that can swoosh out if you short something
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  • [22:34:55] <ds2> build one with a bench supply
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  • [23:03:32] <crazy_pete> opkg search "*/gcc" returns nothing
  • [23:04:09] <crazy_pete> not only can you not build the toolchain but you cannot download a working toolchain and even on the TARGET linux there is no packaged toolchain ? :)
  • [23:04:36] <mru> stop whining
  • [23:04:43] <mru> if you don't like it, don't use it
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  • [23:05:40] <crazy_pete> i didn't realise actually using it was an option ? :)
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  • [23:06:00] <crazy_pete> you can't provide a working build
  • [23:06:13] <crazy_pete> oops didnt mean to post that last bit :)
  • [23:06:14] <mru> no, because I don't use it
  • [23:06:15] <crazy_pete> sorry
  • [23:07:03] <crazy_pete> out of curiousity do u develop for beagle and what do u use mru ?
  • [23:07:12] <cwillu_at_work> crazy_pete, if your shop can't get a working build from openembedded, I think your shop has bigger problems than one script kiddy :p
  • [23:07:16] <crazy_pete> since you don't use OE either
  • [23:07:24] <crazy_pete> yes we do
  • [23:07:46] <mru> I build gcc using gentoo's crossdev script
  • [23:07:51] <crazy_pete> i didn't listen to all the people who told "OE is a laugh because of something called bitbake, don't waste your time" in the first place :)
  • [23:08:03] <crazy_pete> so we have TWO problems , you are correct cwillu :)
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  • [23:08:17] <mru> I've seen OE being used successfully
  • [23:08:27] <crazy_pete> oh i am sure OE is used successfully
  • [23:08:31] <mru> that's more than I can say for most of the so-called alternatives
  • [23:08:46] <crazy_pete> i am sure if i had coincided with the right set confurations it would work here
  • [23:09:30] <crazy_pete> but i am new to beagle and you're telling me that gentoo and gcc / crosstool works for you is very nice to know
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  • [23:22:57] <ds2> just build the thing by hand and be done with.
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  • [23:34:59] <likewise> works for you, works for me, works for everyone, works for no-one. la la la
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  • [23:42:56] <crazy_pete> well someone who believe in OE told (in fact it was koen) to go ahead and download their broken toolchain (which took 3 hours) only to have it fail because it wasn't properly built
  • [23:43:10] <crazy_pete> sorry that is an EPIC failure and NOT on my part
  • [23:44:04] <crazy_pete> OE needs a warning that it is a hobbyist project, it DOES try to come off as being for real and it aint
  • [23:44:38] <crazy_pete> i admit this dood DESERVES to be fired, he was warned about his script kiddie bullshit and ESPECIALLY not doing his homework
  • [23:44:49] <likewise> crazy_pete: it's used by montavista in their commercial offering, if that helps. No it doesn't, I know.
  • [23:45:06] <crazy_pete> i am sure OE works fine under the proper circumstances
  • [23:45:17] <likewise> crazy_pete: stop bashing, and come up with something better. this is going nowhere
  • [23:45:22] <crazy_pete> those last 2 words mean it isn't a real soluition though
  • [23:45:43] <crazy_pete> i already DID come up with something better and offered to help the angstrom dood(s) duplicate it in their failed build system
  • [23:45:48] <likewise> crazy_pete: that's why a hobbyist project can be better than anything else.
  • [23:46:05] <likewise> crazy_pete: so what's your fix?
  • [23:46:19] <crazy_pete> my fix is to abandon OE and use something better
  • [23:46:42] <crazy_pete> however i am willing to explore the failure of OE/angstrom
  • [23:46:54] <likewise> crazy_pete: something better SUCH AS?
  • [23:47:00] <crazy_pete> and help someone hash out why it fails on a 64bit linux
  • [23:47:29] <crazy_pete> i just installed this centos fresh from DVD 3 days ago? It is ridiculous that oe is a total no go
  • [23:47:48] <Crofton|usrp-emb> crazy_pete, go pay Monta Vista or Mentor to help you
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  • [23:48:02] <crazy_pete> hell maybe something serious is broken with centos 5.5 and it is so new that OE hasnt found it
  • [23:48:09] <likewise> Crofton|usrp-emb: he doesn't need help, he has something better :-)
  • [23:48:19] <crazy_pete> er you mean i should ask Monta Visa or Mentor to pay me to fix broken OE?
  • [23:48:26] <crazy_pete> you tell them to ask me
  • [23:48:51] <likewise> crazy_pete: learn this is a community effort. be part of it means you fix stuff, not bash people
  • [23:49:06] <crazy_pete> is this the OE/angstrom room or the beagleboard room?
  • [23:49:09] <crazy_pete> and i DID offer to help
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  • [23:49:27] <crazy_pete> so i am not just bashing and laughing at the OE people as we abandon it
  • [23:49:47] <likewise> beagleboard, so you are rather off-topic
  • [23:49:50] <crazy_pete> i am also offering to help clean up a little on the way out, which is pretty damn nice considering the amount of time i wasted :)
  • [23:50:04] <crazy_pete> so basically any discussion of angstrom and oe here is off topic ?
  • [23:50:13] <likewise> crazy_pete: time you wasted???? you started this what, one week ago?
  • [23:50:19] <crazy_pete> er last night
  • [23:50:25] <crazy_pete> one week ago?
  • [23:50:46] <crazy_pete> i might have started lurking in here in anticipation a week ago
  • [23:51:03] <likewise> crazy_pete: ok, so spending a week to fix your setup will gain you 10+ manyears of work in getting thousands of packets to build for hundreds of targets.
  • [23:51:20] <crazy_pete> and we are probably still going to use the beagleboard
  • [23:51:24] <crazy_pete> just nothing associated with OE
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  • [23:56:52] <Animule> tubes
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