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  • [02:29:09] <djlewis> emeb: ping
  • [02:33:10] <emeb> djlewis: pong
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  • [02:35:36] <djlewis> just read the whole serial of my dso
  • [02:35:51] <emeb> what's that tell you?
  • [02:35:52] <djlewis> 00.02.04.01 so it is short a rev
  • [02:36:24] <emeb> some concern that might behave differently?
  • [02:37:33] <djlewis> no, it is known and tested at least
  • [02:38:51] <emeb> I find it highly amusing that there is this battle between the users & mfg
  • [02:39:03] <emeb> over the 100MHz hack.
  • [02:39:29] <emeb> Rigol could stop 95% of this just by putting a hardware jumper on the board to flag the BW
  • [02:39:32] <prpplague> emeb: what is the latest on that?
  • [02:40:12] <emeb> prpplague: users found a hack, Rigol revs the firmware to block it, users find a way around, next move is Rigol's
  • [02:40:14] <djlewis> a hardware hack is already known if the software stops working
  • [02:40:31] <prpplague> emeb: ahh i didn't know they rev'd the firmware
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  • [02:40:48] <djlewis> prpplague: http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=553.90
  • [02:40:49] <emeb> djlewis: yes, but most users won't mod the HW
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  • [02:40:57] <djlewis> I got my scope today
  • [02:41:01] <prpplague> djlewis: thanks
  • [02:41:25] <djlewis> emeb: yes, it is a little challenging
  • [02:41:48] <emeb> djlewis: even if it was just cutting a jumper most folks wouldn't dare open the case.
  • [02:42:26] <emeb> but yeah - fiddling with the varactors is even better hurdle
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  • [02:44:01] <emeb> djlewis: how you liking the new toy so far?
  • [02:44:43] <djlewis> I just got it out of the box the second time. Read the real serial thru usb, fiddling
  • [02:45:07] <djlewis> It is sooo far advanced from my 30+ year o-scope experience
  • [02:45:26] <djlewis> 30 ago that is
  • [02:45:41] <djlewis> I have the 20 Mhz antic Tek upstairs
  • [02:45:48] <djlewis> antique
  • [02:45:51] <emeb> how's the weight? I recall these lunchbox style DSOs feel like toys.
  • [02:46:19] <djlewis> the screen is plenty big and color. They squeeze a lot of info on it
  • [02:46:39] <djlewis> very light.
  • [02:46:59] <djlewis> once I carried a Tek 465B on my motorcycle to a service call.
  • [02:47:13] <Crofton> rofl
  • [02:47:17] <Crofton> I love that scope
  • [02:47:26] <djlewis> I did too
  • [02:47:46] <djlewis> I got stupid and sold it for a semester college tuition
  • [02:48:46] <djlewis> it is showing noise on the top and bottom of the test sq wave at 1mv
  • [02:48:58] <djlewis> 1V correction
  • [02:51:01] <emeb> 1Msample memory!
  • [02:51:14] <emeb> Low end Tek DSOs only have 2.5k!
  • [02:55:08] <djlewis> noise http://imagebin.org/112338
  • [02:55:46] <djlewis> emeb: te display shows interlace lines like ntsc
  • [02:55:48] <emeb> djlewis: fairly typical for DSOs w/ low vertical resolution
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  • [02:56:04] <djlewis> 8bit, right?
  • [02:56:07] <emeb> yep
  • [02:56:35] <emeb> I see that alternating red/green shading on the gray areas too.
  • [02:56:50] <djlewis> could be my webcam
  • [02:57:21] <emeb> doubt it - it seems lined up with the display, not the image boundaries
  • [02:57:36] <emeb> they're probably using inexpensive TV displays
  • [02:57:41] <djlewis> doesnt show on actual screen
  • [02:58:01] <emeb> might be a strobing thing then
  • [02:58:09] <djlewis> a freeze frame artifact?
  • [02:59:38] <prpplague> ho ho hum
  • [02:59:40] <emeb> that would be my guess
  • [02:59:47] <emeb> and a bottle of...
  • [02:59:52] * prpplague has way too many irons in the fire
  • [03:00:00] <emeb> never bored
  • [03:00:04] <djlewis> yummy yummy rum
  • [03:00:19] <djlewis> prpplague: you been thinking on this DSO?
  • [03:00:44] <prpplague> djlewis: only been reading about it
  • [03:01:00] <prpplague> djlewis: LA stuff tends to be more of what i need
  • [03:01:11] <prpplague> djlewis: just sick of windows only devices
  • [03:01:54] * emeb still needs to try that linux-based LA software prpplague pointed out
  • [03:02:23] <prpplague> emeb: indeed, i've been tinkering with it, but just too much going on to do anything big with it
  • [03:02:27] <emeb> sigrok..
  • [03:02:48] <emeb> panda keeping you busy?
  • [03:03:02] <djlewis> prpplague: i wanted the Rigol ds1052D with the 16 ch la
  • [03:03:14] <djlewis> around $1k
  • [03:03:27] <prpplague> emeb: more than you will ever know
  • [03:03:34] <emeb> not surprised.
  • [03:03:58] * emeb is looking at the higher-end Rigols
  • [03:04:17] <emeb> 4chl / 200MHz - $1900
  • [03:04:31] <emeb> but not today...
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  • [03:04:58] <prpplague> emeb: nice
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  • [03:05:24] <emeb> prpplague: yep - still about $600 cheaper than equivalent Tek scopes.
  • [03:05:24] <prpplague> emeb: 99% of my DSO needs are for power up sequences, and clock verifications
  • [03:05:41] <emeb> prpplague: and long record lengths are probably handy for that
  • [03:05:55] <prpplague> emeb: yea
  • [03:06:05] <emeb> a lot of these high BW scopes top out at a couple Ksamples.
  • [03:06:14] <emeb> but the low-end Rigol has 1Msample!
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  • [03:06:21] <prpplague> emeb: ahh nice
  • [03:06:44] <emeb> must be a break-point in the memory access speeds somewhere in there
  • [03:06:49] <prpplague> emeb: when you have 6 or 7 power rails that you need to sequence, it can be a pain if you only have a few k samples
  • [03:06:55] <djlewis> 1g sample
  • [03:07:30] <emeb> djlewis: you sure about that? I think that may be the sample rate
  • [03:07:38] <djlewis> checking
  • [03:08:05] <emeb> prpplague: power sequencing is tricky stuff.
  • [03:08:20] * emeb blew up some RF amps due to that
  • [03:08:37] <emeb> never apply Vgs before Vds
  • [03:08:44] <djlewis> emeb: 1M point deep mem, 1GSa/sec
  • [03:08:49] <djlewis> max sample rate
  • [03:09:01] <djlewis> one channel I think
  • [03:09:02] <emeb> djlewis: that sounds right. Still - can't complain about 1Mpt
  • [03:11:26] * ds2 grumbles about the bit oven's preheat time
  • [03:11:35] <emeb> bit oven?
  • [03:12:14] <ds2> how else do you bake bits?
  • [03:12:43] <emeb> ds2: how long does bitbake console-image take for you?
  • [03:13:02] <ds2> emeb: *shrug* the distro I am using don't have that
  • [03:13:14] <ds2> if it was doing something, I'd not be grumbling about it
  • [03:13:20] <emeb> ah - home-grown distro?
  • [03:13:29] <ds2> of sorts, yes
  • [03:13:45] <emeb> sit & spin mode?
  • [03:13:48] <ds2> it is the preheat interval that was annoying
  • [03:13:59] <ds2> yep. that's the preheat interval
  • [03:14:38] <emeb> where the python scripts plow through the processes to tell you 'nothing to do here'
  • [03:15:10] <ds2> one would hope it won't do that here as I am messing with the bb files
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  • [03:15:39] <ds2> but it is a good test to see if you did the right PR magic
  • [03:16:13] <emeb> that's beyond my experience
  • [03:16:20] * emeb hasn't tweaked recipes yet
  • [03:16:26] <nakali> just got my bb-xm. inserted the sd card, powered up but dont see any out put on hdmi and red led is not flashing (like it is supposed to?)
  • [03:16:33] <ds2> they are just silly python scripts
  • [03:17:09] <emeb> nakali: if the red LED ever flashes you're in trouble - that's the overvoltage indicator
  • [03:17:32] <djlewis> used to a green led flashed after kernel load
  • [03:17:40] <emeb> nakali: how are you powering your new BB?
  • [03:17:44] <djlewis> heartbeat style
  • [03:17:44] <ds2> that is all relative.... the red light not flashing could be an undervoltage indicator for the red LED ;)
  • [03:18:10] <nakali> powerng with a 5 v ps
  • [03:18:14] * djlewis needs some signals to play with with new o-scope
  • [03:18:28] <ds2> djlewis: didn't you order an arbitrary programmable wave generator?
  • [03:18:30] <emeb> nakali: that's a good start - too many folks have trouble using USB power
  • [03:18:55] <emeb> djlewis: hook up to BB audio out & play some tunes
  • [03:18:59] <nakali> the stock microsd card should bootup right?
  • [03:19:07] <djlewis> boreing
  • [03:19:11] <emeb> nakali: I believe so
  • [03:19:21] * emeb doesn't have an xM
  • [03:19:49] <ds2> djlewis: turn the BB into a DDS generator
  • [03:20:25] <ds2> feed that back into a mixer and take the output of that as a direct conversion SW receiver
  • [03:20:46] <djlewis> sounds intriquing
  • [03:20:50] <emeb> ds2: did you seem my little TXDAC board?
  • [03:21:15] <djlewis> prpplague: how does one find the panda with google?
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  • [03:22:03] <ds2> emeb: nope
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  • [03:22:37] <nakali> jkridner are you there
  • [03:23:35] <emeb> ds2: I built a little TXDAC board to plug into the Beagle FPGA board
  • [03:23:49] <emeb> made a little DDS w/ it under SPI control from BB
  • [03:23:49] <ds2> emeb: for a DDS?
  • [03:24:04] <nakali> anyone running asterisk on bb
  • [03:24:07] <ds2> what clock rate can you get?
  • [03:24:17] <emeb> 50MHz sample rate with the crystal I've got on the board
  • [03:24:36] <emeb> there's a 68MHz osc on the board too, but it's a bit noisier
  • [03:24:38] <ds2> so you top out at 25MHz output?
  • [03:24:42] <emeb> yep
  • [03:25:04] <emeb> put a 23MHz LPF on it to knock down the aliases
  • [03:25:10] <ds2> how much energy is there above 25MHz? (spurs, harmonics, etc)
  • [03:25:36] <emeb> I've got a screenshot from the spectrum analyzer around here somewhere. Just a moment...
  • [03:26:53] <emeb> http://imagebin.org/112340
  • [03:27:36] <emeb> marker 1 is 2nd harmonic
  • [03:27:53] <emeb> higher peaks are aliases
  • [03:28:04] <ds2> *nod*
  • [03:28:15] <ds2> is it about 50dB down?
  • [03:28:20] <emeb> That's w/ a 12-bit ADI TXDAC
  • [03:28:36] <emeb> looks like just under 60 to me
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  • [03:28:57] <emeb> 58.41dB according to marker in upper right
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  • [03:29:13] <ds2> ah right
  • [03:29:45] <emeb> anyway - that's a simple sine DDS based on stock core from Xilinx
  • [03:30:00] <emeb> Could add fancy modulations, etc.
  • [03:30:23] <ds2> build another one and generate quad signals
  • [03:30:29] <djlewis> DSO dshow H/S/BperSector etc rather than thumb drive size
  • [03:30:33] <ds2> then use them with a DBM
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  • [03:33:08] <prpplague> djlewis: probably can't find too much yet
  • [03:33:52] <djlewis> IprpI NEED TO AT LEAST KNOW WHAT IT IS ;)
  • [03:33:59] <djlewis> sorry bout caps
  • [03:34:57] <djlewis> prpplague: i need to learn wht it is
  • [03:35:03] <emeb> ds2: I've enough boards & parts to do just that.
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  • [03:35:09] <sean> hi
  • [03:35:15] <prpplague> djlewis: panda is an omap4 based board
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  • [03:35:42] <djlewis> oh, the other night I was thinking it was something else
  • [03:35:59] <djlewis> your new creation then
  • [03:36:08] <Guest23321> my PICO projector seems to show only orange screen when turning on beagle card
  • [03:36:23] <Guest23321> can anyone help?
  • [03:36:25] <emeb> djlewis: panda -> http://cuteoverload.com/2010/08/31/thhhhhhfffffbbbbt/
  • [03:36:44] <prpplague> emeb: hehe
  • [03:36:57] <Guest23321> trying to boot with SD card, but in vain so far
  • [03:37:16] <prpplague> djlewis: i can't take credit for panda
  • [03:37:20] <djlewis> Guest23321: sounds normal
  • [03:37:23] <emeb> prpplague: that old 'eats shoots & leaves' joke again...
  • [03:37:36] <prpplague> hehe
  • [03:39:52] <djlewis> Guest23321: i b elieve there is a orange screen during uboot.
  • [03:40:11] <djlewis> might be during uImage load
  • [03:41:18] <Guest23321> djlewis: is there any indicator when it is loaded?
  • [03:41:41] <djlewis> Guest23321: I have no boot with pico experience.
  • [03:42:08] <djlewis> is your pico using hdmi connector?
  • [03:42:22] <Guest23321> yes
  • [03:42:42] <djlewis> do you have a serial console connected?
  • [03:43:12] <Guest23321> what is serial console?
  • [03:43:18] <djlewis> hmmm
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  • [03:43:37] <djlewis> are you using a beagleboard and what filesystem>?
  • [03:44:05] <Guest23321> I only put in a SD card, 5v power and hdmi to PICO
  • [03:44:07] <djlewis> which beagleboard?
  • [03:44:20] <djlewis> a empty sd card?
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  • [03:44:33] <Guest23321> filesystem for SD part 1 is FAT32, 2nd is ext3
  • [03:44:41] <ds2> ~
  • [03:45:08] <djlewis> have you read the beginners wiki at beagleboard.org?
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  • [03:45:24] <Guest23321> formatted with http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ mkcard.txt
  • [03:45:36] <Guest23321> yes
  • [03:47:21] <djlewis> do you have a regular dvi monitor to try?
  • [03:47:39] <djlewis> a serial console could let you know if it is booting or not
  • [03:49:03] <Guest23321> ok, I should try that for the time being. So far there's not regular dvi monitor
  • [03:50:19] <djlewis> If you get a serial port hookup to your PC you can learn so much more about the state of the boot
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  • [04:12:01] <djlewis> emeb: i did all the checks, it r/w 's my thumb drive properly.
  • [04:12:13] <djlewis> now if I can just refrain from trying it.
  • [04:14:29] <djlewis> gn all
  • [04:14:31] <emeb> gn
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  • [04:44:02] <chang> There is no sound coming from my beagle board with android OS , running alsa application
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  • [04:44:19] <chang> Have anyone face such problem?
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  • [04:49:49] <_av500_> rowboat?
  • [04:49:58] <_av500_> or 0xdroid?
  • [04:50:51] <ds2> we turn to let the problems flow through
  • [04:55:20] <chang> i am using embinux images on my BB
  • [05:03:14] <chang> Hi av500 , i have made one alsa test application which set sound card to SR to 44100, channel 2, RE_INTERLEAVED and 16 bit LE. My application read 1.pcm file and play the content of file. This test is running successfully on linux but there is a problem while running on android. It is seeting hw and sw parameters properly, in fact test is running also but no sound is coming out from device. I don't understand where will be the problem
  • [05:03:29] <chang> Do you have any idea where will be the problem?
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  • [05:30:21] <_av500_> chang: no idea
  • [05:30:33] <_av500_> embinux somehow stopped supporting their android
  • [05:30:56] <_av500_> these days rowboat or 0xdroid might be a better choice
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  • [05:31:53] <beagle_user> hello
  • [05:31:59] <beagle_user> anyone know about dspeasy!?
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  • [07:51:24] <tasslehoff> Is there a wiki/howto for installing SGX on the beagleboard and getting Qt to use it? I found http://swik.net/Trolltech/Trolltech+Labs+Blogs/Building+Qt+to+make+use+of+the+Beagle+board%E2%80%99s+SGX+GPU/da13l, but since it's almost a year old I wanted to check if there's something more up-to-date
  • [07:57:45] <jacekowski> it's same beagle board
  • [07:57:48] <jacekowski> same sgx
  • [07:57:51] <jacekowski> nothing has changed
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  • [07:59:23] <tasslehoff> jacekowski: ok. I figured perhaps something could have changed in Qt/OE/Angstrom.
  • [07:59:48] * tasslehoff trudges happily along
  • [08:17:14] <koen> tasslehoff: opkg install qt4-plugin-graphicssystems-glgraphicssystem
  • [08:17:17] <koen> for q/x11
  • [08:17:36] <koen> for qt/e: opkg install qt4-embedded-plugin-gfxdriver-gfxpvregl
  • [08:18:29] <koen> tasslehoff: if you go to narcissus, expand "Platform specific packages" and click on the "PowerVR SGX gfxdriver plugin for QT*" checkboxes
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  • [08:23:03] <tasslehoff> koen: thanks a bunch. I'm after the qt/e solution. an install in my custom own-built rootfs followed by a reboot should do it I hope.
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  • [08:28:31] <same> I am getting error on ALSA device open
  • [08:29:41] <mru> same: please don't bother people with private messages
  • [08:30:00] <same> sorry for that
  • [08:30:05] <mru> if we know the answer, we'll give it here
  • [08:30:07] <same> it will not happend again
  • [08:30:10] <mru> but first you have to ask a question
  • [08:30:23] <koen> mru: standard operating procedure for people from the india region of the world :)
  • [08:30:51] <mru> koen: but usually they pick the last person to have said something
  • [08:30:57] <mru> I've been silent since yesterday
  • [08:31:19] <mru> unless they have a designated victim from prior channel visits of course
  • [08:31:29] <av500> .
  • [08:31:34] <av500> (pm bait)
  • [08:32:07] <same> snd_pcm_open error "No such file or directory"
  • [08:32:21] <mru> anything in /dev/snd/ ?
  • [08:32:25] <tasslehoff> av500: everytime I wonder about dots I will pm you
  • [08:32:26] <same> yes
  • [08:32:55] <same> i am able to open in command line
  • [08:33:09] <same> but it is not possilble wtih android 2.2 apk file
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  • [08:33:30] <tasslehoff> koen: for my own rootfs.bb, adding qt4-embedded-plugin-gfxdriver-gfxpvregl and picking up the compile errors should do the trick?
  • [08:34:02] <av500> same: permissions
  • [08:34:11] <same> from my application.apk i am not able to open
  • [08:34:16] <av500> android apks are not supposed to talk to alsa
  • [08:34:20] <av500> you talk to audioflinger
  • [08:34:29] <av500> which flings the audio wherever you want
  • [08:35:18] <same> i am linking libasound.so in my application
  • [08:35:57] <jacekowski> good for you
  • [08:36:18] <mru> av500: no, wherever *it* wants
  • [08:36:25] <mru> av500: and you know *it*
  • [08:36:36] <av500> same: still your app is not allowed to talk to the alsa device
  • [08:36:46] <av500> imagine every apk opening alsa
  • [08:37:00] <same> so what will be next step for me
  • [08:38:04] <av500> dont talk to alsa directly
  • [08:38:08] <av500> or hack android
  • [08:41:23] <av500> same: why would you want to link to alsa?
  • [08:42:13] <same> I have make small apllication to play mp3 file
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  • [08:46:58] <same> av500 any recomendations
  • [08:48:13] <av500> same: I wonder how all the other android apps play music
  • [08:48:21] <same> for my collge i have shown wav file playback with commanline application and now I want to make apk file
  • [08:48:46] <av500> you made wav commandline playback?
  • [08:48:47] <av500> wow
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  • [08:51:56] <same> wav playback is simple , it was intresting with alsa driver, but it will be more intresting with apk file
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  • [08:53:22] <av500> same: how do you imagine to share alsa between your apk and android audio framework?
  • [08:53:30] <av500> inb4 pulseaudio
  • [08:54:34] <tasslehoff> no.. probably just use qt4-embedded-gles instead of qt4-embedded
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  • [09:04:21] <same> av500 thanks for you help
  • [09:04:25] <same> i need to go
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  • [10:50:20] <ucasano> hi
  • [10:50:44] <ucasano> do you know if it is possible to run an operating system different from linux on the BB?
  • [10:51:00] <av500> yes
  • [10:51:08] <av500> the cpu does not discriminate
  • [10:53:04] <ucasano> could you make a few examples
  • [10:53:23] <ucasano> of such OS or, why not, monitor software?
  • [10:53:49] <ucasano> I think it is a little hard to start from linux
  • [10:54:11] <ucasano> first of all, I read that there are two different kernel repository
  • [10:54:26] <ucasano> the official at kernel.org and the unofficial at muru
  • [10:54:29] <ucasano> is that right?
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  • [11:01:53] <mru> wtf is muru?
  • [11:01:54] <adj> there are at least gadzillion repositories
  • [11:02:24] <adj> plus perhaps absurdillion repositories for different patches
  • [11:04:38] <adj> mru, muru.com ? http://www.muru.com/linux/omap/
  • [11:04:50] <mru> never heard of
  • [11:05:07] <mru> must be very unofficial indeed
  • [11:05:08] <av500> mru: you lost your "u" and are now in denial?
  • [11:05:24] <adj> "Some of the most recent patches are:" "Linux-2.6.27-omap1"
  • [11:05:31] <mru> lol
  • [11:06:05] <av500> well, they mention the omap4
  • [11:06:28] <av500> and tell people to go elsewhere
  • [11:06:36] <mru> and link to the tmlind tree
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  • [11:25:08] <koen> mru: muru.com is Tony's site
  • [11:25:27] <mru> still looks kinda outdated
  • [11:25:33] <koen> it is
  • [11:25:51] <koen> but if having 2 kernel tries is already too much....
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  • [11:56:50] <av500> omeegod: http://home.kosyak.info/archos.JPG
  • [12:03:14] <ynezz> shame it's by default for 800x480 and looks ugly in hd720 :)
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  • [12:07:20] <dm8tbr> av500: ohMeeGoD?
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  • [12:09:33] <av500> ynezz: well, pic shows it running in 800x480 :)
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  • [13:00:18] <djlewis> gm guys
  • [13:00:36] <av500> gm djlewis
  • [13:00:39] <av500> got 200mhz?
  • [13:00:44] <djlewis> hehee
  • [13:01:06] <av500> we played with the signalhound this morning, nice
  • [13:01:17] <av500> but the gui sw sucks
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  • [13:01:51] <djlewis> the gui sftwre for this DSO is a big clunky. In speed that is
  • [13:04:09] <djlewis> as I got a $100 coupon toward my next Rigol purchase, its got me pondering..
  • [13:04:27] <djlewis> this dso is the least expensive item they carry
  • [13:07:12] <djlewis> Crofton: are you hunkering down forhurricane earl?
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  • [13:24:50] <Crofton> nah
  • [13:24:52] <Crofton> we are inland
  • [13:33:03] <jkridner> good morning all
  • [13:33:28] <av500> gm
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  • [13:47:27] <djlewis> gm jkridner and Crofton:
  • [13:47:36] <djlewis> Crofton: this is good news
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  • [13:51:42] * djlewis should run out and stock up on plywood before hurricane season hits hard :(
  • [13:51:57] <djlewis> before cost triples and it is hard to get.
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  • [13:52:10] <djlewis> I have a small building to build
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  • [13:52:59] <djlewis> lumber vendors are probably watching the market like the fuel business. Raise it just because :P
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  • [14:06:05] <Kmus> in a good way or bad :)
  • [14:06:08] <koen> why are you talking about miss Bardot?
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  • [14:19:15] * djlewis just got his little female hound back in the yard.
  • [14:19:25] <djlewis> little digger :(
  • [14:19:56] * mru imagines a set of filthy paws
  • [14:20:16] <djlewis> yep, just about describes her
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  • [16:09:20] <ben_kludged> hey ya'll
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  • [16:13:44] <djlewis> Hi Ho... Hi Ho... Its...(sing along)
  • [16:14:11] <av500> Its not Friday....
  • [16:14:18] <mru> soon it is
  • [16:14:42] <mru> and /me is in beer-land
  • [16:15:02] <av500> true
  • [16:15:36] <djlewis> no no, off to work i go, gotta admire those little dwarves
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  • [16:16:38] <djlewis> but, friday coming along is good too :)
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  • [16:18:31] <djlewis> osicillator... ...
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  • [16:18:50] <djlewis> cant even spell tht :P
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  • [16:19:04] <mru> and av500 can't add them
  • [16:19:14] <av500> heh
  • [16:19:28] <mru> or he's very good at it
  • [16:19:30] <mru> not quite sure
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  • [16:25:20] <ben_kludged> i did several bitbake builds,,, think task-base was the first,,, got lots of errors,,, fixed em and got a complet build,,,, 12 hours later,,, and a lot of used up disk space,,,how do i clean,, start over?
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  • [17:13:20] <Drumpi> good afternoon
  • [17:13:23] <Drumpi> ho are you?
  • [17:13:43] <jkridner> hi Drumpi. Doing something fun with a BeagleBoard?
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  • [17:14:04] * jkridner should make a bot ask that question.
  • [17:14:14] <Drumpi> yes, i'm doing my own BB guide
  • [17:14:44] <Drumpi> so i'm looking for some information
  • [17:14:58] <Drumpi> this time Matlab related
  • [17:15:28] <Drumpi> so i may someone can help me
  • [17:15:35] <Drumpi> *hope
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  • [17:16:27] * jkridner goes back to work instead of waiting forever for a question.
  • [17:16:52] <Drumpi> a question?
  • [17:17:03] * djlewis_ just got to work with his 2lb burrito
  • [17:17:20] <jkridner> ben_kludged: you can delete your tmp folder entirely to start fresh.
  • [17:17:45] <jkridner> are you using rm_work? It could help you save disk space.
  • [17:17:47] <Drumpi> ok, i want to know if you have some tutorial of using Matlab and Simulink to generate C code for BB DSP
  • [17:18:15] <Drumpi> all i can find it's about connecting Matlab with CCS
  • [17:18:23] <jkridner> Drumpi: ah, something I can Google for.
  • [17:18:32] <jkridner> well, you can use CCS with a BeagleBoard.
  • [17:18:47] <Drumpi> but i don't want to use CCS
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  • [17:19:18] <Drumpi> i just only need C code because i got toolchains ready to use out of CCS
  • [17:19:23] <jkridner> I think folks have used Matlab and Simulink to create code for a BB DSP, but I haven't been pointed to a tutorial yet.
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  • [17:20:29] <koen> does matlab know about the pragmas?
  • [17:20:38] <koen> if not, wouldn't the regular C export work?
  • [17:20:41] <ben_kludged> ah, that's simple enuf.... i just added INHERIT += "rm_work" to local.conf,,, this will keep it clean?
  • [17:21:20] <Drumpi> i just follow some links to here: http://www.mathworks.com/products/target-package/?s_cid=0909_webg_9b_c6000_trans_268513
  • [17:21:31] <Drumpi> but is a pay package
  • [17:22:23] <jkridner> ben_kludged: it is still possible to "mess up" the tmp folder with bad recipes, but it will remove many bits no longer needed during the build to save space.
  • [17:22:33] <koen> ben_kludged: if you use http://gitorious.org/angstrom/angstrom-setup-scripts then rm_work is enabled by default
  • [17:23:44] <ben_kludged> thanks,,, i think i need to revisit the setup-scripts... thanks again
  • [17:25:36] <Drumpi> i just lookin for how to put blocks on Simulink, their names, an the steps for make C code without needing CCS
  • [17:26:15] <Drumpi> Beagleboard's C64x+ blocks
  • [17:27:04] * mru suggests "making" C code with a text editor
  • [17:27:09] <jkridner> I think c6run could be helpful, if you can get simulink/matlab to produce optimized C6000 C code.
  • [17:27:10] <mru> emacs and vim are popular choices
  • [17:28:33] <koen> normally I would laugh when someone says "<cpu> optimized C"
  • [17:29:29] * emeb uses matlab & simulink, but never for code generation
  • [17:29:41] <Drumpi> C6000 matlab blocks supossed make optimiced DSP C code
  • [17:30:15] <koen> so it knows where to sprinkle the pragmas
  • [17:30:28] <Drumpi> and use Simulink, placing blocks and lines is easier than writing CODECs by code lines
  • [17:30:34] <djlewis_> the suggestion mru made insures better learning of it.
  • [17:30:54] <Drumpi> sorry, i don't know what pragmas are
  • [17:30:55] <jkridner> koen: should I say pragma-optimized C?
  • [17:31:14] <jkridner> Drumpi: doesn't matter if you know what they are as long as they are there. :)
  • [17:31:42] <jkridner> without them, inner loops won't be very well optimized on the C6000.
  • [17:32:24] <jkridner> you need to have the compiler do some loop unrolling with preludes and epilogs (or whatever the right terms are).
  • [17:32:38] <Drumpi> i don't wanna learn about making codecs, i looking for make easier developement of BB
  • [17:32:47] <koen> epilog makes now nice lasercutters
  • [17:33:29] <mru> "I want to make awesome stuff without knowing how"
  • [17:33:38] <Drumpi> i think using simulink optimiced blocks is a good choice to develop, because they was made by TI
  • [17:33:53] <mru> lol
  • [17:34:24] <mru> TI is a hardware company
  • [17:34:29] <mru> I wouldn't trust them with software
  • [17:34:33] <Drumpi> mru, don't mistake me, i'm writing a developement guide, not a programming guide
  • [17:35:01] <Drumpi> i writing about alternatives to code writing
  • [17:35:02] <mru> "if you can, do; if you can't, teach"
  • [17:35:24] <Drumpi> mru, i'm still an student
  • [17:35:30] * djlewis_ used that line on a lot of 'teachers' at his last university
  • [17:35:41] <emeb> djlewis_: how far did that get you?
  • [17:35:41] <mru> Drumpi: then you should be learning, not teaching
  • [17:35:51] <mru> emeb: all the way here
  • [17:36:02] <djlewis_> Oh, didn't you hear I won the mr popularity award?
  • [17:36:09] <Drumpi> if TI is HW company, who made CGTools or XDCtools?
  • [17:36:21] <mru> TI, and it shows
  • [17:36:40] <djlewis_> hehee
  • [17:36:59] * jkridner is still a bit proud of our compilers.
  • [17:37:06] * mru wouldn't be
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  • [17:37:27] * jkridner may be stuck in 1990.
  • [17:37:40] * mru considers publicly shaming the TI compilers on FATE
  • [17:37:44] <Drumpi> ok, i'm writing a guide as my final test for obtain my university title
  • [17:38:12] <emeb> Drumpi: it's a good thing to do
  • [17:38:35] <koen> cgt doesn't like custard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vla
  • [17:38:56] <jkridner> mru: I thought that you were raising issues with Roger to fix any CGT short-comings you saw.
  • [17:38:58] <mru> koen: that's not the worst part
  • [17:39:01] <Drumpi> and they give me a CD with mathworks information of how make signal processing using Simulink and a test borad, but not BB
  • [17:39:08] <emeb> your question seems to be essentially "How to integrate Matlab/Simulink development for the C64x with BB"
  • [17:39:08] <mru> I've got rid of most of the VLAs
  • [17:39:28] <mru> jkridner: I've raised a number of issues
  • [17:39:41] <mru> some have been fixed
  • [17:39:42] <mru> some not
  • [17:39:47] <Drumpi> emeb: yes, but not using CCS because i lost my license
  • [17:39:54] <mru> and some remain to be discovered
  • [17:40:05] <jkridner> well, if I need to light a fire under them again, let me know.
  • [17:40:19] <jkridner> I'd love to see them resolved and I think the compiler team is motivated to fix them.
  • [17:40:33] <emeb> Drumpi: so that boils down to "How to get raw C code for the C64x out of Matlab/Simulink"
  • [17:40:45] <emeb> which you can then compile with the free TI compiler
  • [17:40:54] <Drumpi> exactly
  • [17:41:03] <jkridner> Drumpi: CCS is available without a fee (ie. free as in beer) if you don't need the higher end emulator support.
  • [17:41:04] <emeb> This sounds like a question for the Matlab experts
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  • [17:41:32] * koen denies knowing anything about matlab
  • [17:41:51] * mru used it a long time ago in uni
  • [17:41:53] <emeb> Drumpi: in other words - your not likely to find a good answer on this chl :)
  • [17:42:04] <jkridner> I'd still want to tie the answer up to c6run, because if you just get compilable C code, then how do you load and run it on the BeagleBoard?
  • [17:42:05] <emeb> s/your/you're/
  • [17:42:10] <Drumpi> so no-one worked with mathlab here?
  • [17:42:29] <koen> I got pissed off when they changed the API
  • [17:42:31] <jkridner> not typically. I also used it in school.
  • [17:42:33] * mru spends his days writing asm
  • [17:42:34] * emeb doesn't generate code with Matlab/Simulink
  • [17:42:41] <mru> because compilers aren't good enough
  • [17:43:00] <koen> mru is gcc in the cloud
  • [17:43:02] <Drumpi> jkridner: i used DSPLink and some C code to load DSP code
  • [17:43:20] <mru> koen: I reported 3 armcc bugs last week
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  • [17:43:39] <Drumpi> and use XDCTools an CGTools and OpenEmbedded to make executables
  • [17:44:00] <Drumpi> in dsplink package is good documentation
  • [17:44:14] <Drumpi> and ossies wiki
  • [17:44:44] <Drumpi> http://ossie.wireless.vt.edu/trac/wiki/BeagleBoard_CodecEngine
  • [17:47:19] <Drumpi> so, i had installed full CCS and now i don't have license, now i must uninstall it if i want to use a free CCS version?
  • [17:49:18] <jkridner> Drumpi: I don't think so. I think you can install the limited license without a full uninstall, but I'm not certain.
  • [17:49:28] * jkridner searches wiki
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  • [17:52:01] <jkridner|work> Drumpi: which version do you have installed?
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  • [17:52:58] <Drumpi> i'm not sure, is in other PC, but CD sais "Platinum edition"
  • [17:53:11] <Drumpi> i think is CCS4
  • [17:53:29] <buZz> gnu <3
  • [17:53:51] <Drumpi> is just a lend for this guide, i must return it when I finish
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  • [17:54:20] <mru> buZz: you like large ruminants?
  • [17:54:31] * jkridner|work reads http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/ccstudio.html
  • [17:56:22] <jkridner|work> Drumpi: what exactly is CCS doing when it says the license has expired? I believe that may only be a warning and may only prevent use of the high-speed emulators.
  • [17:58:35] <Drumpi> I don't remember, but i don't know why i cannot open the "XDAIS compilance" program to check some CODECS
  • [17:59:06] <buZz> mru: if they write free and open code, i would love any animal, no matter what appereance
  • [17:59:08] * jkridner|work reads http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/License_Server_Administration_for_CCS
  • [17:59:14] <Drumpi> and it is a XDCTools utility
  • [17:59:46] <mru> just hack the licence and be done with it
  • [18:00:53] <Drumpi> it's an idea
  • [18:01:03] * jkridner|work reads http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Download_CCS
  • [18:01:25] <Drumpi> i will check the license when i can use the other PC
  • [18:01:32] <Drumpi> thanks for the info
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  • [18:03:06] <mru> __av500__: what's with the extra-long wings?
  • [18:03:19] <__av500__> _av500_ is going to reboot
  • [18:03:28] <__av500__> or rather go offline
  • [18:03:42] <__av500__> so im migrating my virtual self
  • [18:06:37] * Drumpi working with new Matlab information
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  • [18:16:39] <djlewis_> welcome back _av500_
  • [18:17:17] <_av500_> hi
  • [18:19:34] <mru> wing-clipped!
  • [18:21:24] <ds2> morning
  • [18:21:31] <mru> morning ds2
  • [18:21:51] <mru> I see the friday crew is all gathered
  • [18:21:56] <mru> does that mean it's friday?
  • [18:22:13] <jkridner> +1
  • [18:22:18] <ds2> friday? uh...err...
  • [18:22:26] <_av500_> <<=1
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  • [18:22:36] <ds2> now if you can convince the folks that I have a call with that it is friday... ;)
  • [18:22:44] <djlewis_> hi ds2
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  • [18:22:56] <_av500_> ds2: patch me in and its done
  • [18:22:56] <emeb> ...they'll wonder why you didn't talk to them yesterday...
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  • [18:23:20] * jkridner prefers *=2 for clarity and trusts compilers to do the wrong thing.
  • [18:23:36] <ds2> when in doubt, use assembly ;)
  • [18:23:40] <emeb> +1
  • [18:23:46] <ds2> if your assembler is broq then....
  • [18:23:48] <_av500_> jkridner: oh you mean the little per script?
  • [18:23:52] <_av500_> perl
  • [18:24:03] <mru> ds2: then you're not giving him enough beer
  • [18:24:07] <emeb> ...have another beer?
  • [18:24:24] * emeb and mru are reading from the same page
  • [18:24:43] <ds2> they need to start with ever clear shots
  • [18:24:59] <jkridner> += 151
  • [18:25:26] <emeb> so smooth
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  • [19:03:14] <torusle> hi folks
  • [19:03:28] <_av500_> hi torusle
  • [19:03:33] <torusle> hi av500
  • [19:03:51] <torusle> emeb, are you awake?
  • [19:04:41] <emeb> yep
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  • [19:05:09] <__av500__> dont ask
  • [19:05:17] <torusle> emeb, I forgot the part-number of the one codec chip that works with 1.8v digital... it was WD-something.. do you still have it?
  • [19:05:25] <emeb> WM8731
  • [19:05:29] <torusle> thnx..
  • [19:05:34] <torusle> <-- gotta place an order.
  • [19:05:49] <emeb> make sure to get the right package
  • [19:06:03] <torusle> the WhatNot4030 chip is to strange for me.
  • [19:06:16] <emeb> the tssop devices are easier to use but the csp/qfn packages are more common
  • [19:06:34] <emeb> TWL4030 is a strange beast
  • [19:06:42] <emeb> too much going on in that part
  • [19:07:11] <torusle> emeb. In the worst case I have to bribe some workmate from the hardware department to solder the chip on a converter-board...
  • [19:07:34] <emeb> buy converter boards too - all available from Mouser
  • [19:07:50] <emeb> a panel of scored adapter boards is like $45
  • [19:07:56] <emeb> overkill - yes
  • [19:07:57] <torusle> emeb, You've mentioned that someone had a problem with the chip doing strange things on the lower cycle of the sine, didn't you?
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  • [19:08:28] <emeb> Somewone here was having trouble with the TWL4030 headphone outputs mangling the waveform
  • [19:08:30] <torusle> futurelec has nice (and much cheaper boards= as well.
  • [19:08:36] <torusle> heck yes..
  • [19:08:51] <torusle> I have a sample of a clean sine that I send via McBsp... wanna see it?
  • [19:08:56] <emeb> I never saw his code so I don't know if it was his algo or the hw
  • [19:09:02] <emeb> sure
  • [19:09:36] <torusle> My code *does* has a bug. I skip blocks.. but otherwise it's super strange..
  • [19:09:43] <torusle> <-- uploads
  • [19:11:29] <torusle> http://torus.untergrund.net/code/test.wav
  • [19:11:32] <torusle> should work.
  • [19:11:49] <torusle> The codec ran at 8khz at the moment btw..
  • [19:13:12] <torusle> that ought to be a clean sine-wave..
  • [19:13:12] * emeb installs audacity to view a .wav
  • [19:13:17] <torusle> *lol*
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  • [19:14:05] <torusle> in the meantime I can write my current thoughts:
  • [19:14:20] <torusle> I write to the McBSP (via L4 interconnect) using the EDMA4.
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  • [19:15:17] <torusle> On the OMAP3530 you can't use the SAM and DAM anymore (that was a feature where you stream from one address and write the data to a single memory location... like the transmit register of the McBSP for example).
  • [19:15:22] <emeb> torusle: that's certainly not a sinewave.
  • [19:15:30] <torusle> I know..
  • [19:15:45] <torusle> the positive halfwave is chunky...
  • [19:15:45] <emeb> looks like the top half of a sinewave but out of order
  • [19:16:12] <torusle> the strange thing is:
  • [19:16:13] <emeb> like there are chunks missing
  • [19:16:20] <torusle> there are chunks missing.
  • [19:16:40] <emeb> but then the bottom half is completely gone
  • [19:16:45] <torusle> but the strange thing is: I send the exact data-rate to the codec.
  • [19:16:55] <torusle> otherwise I would get an over- or underflow..
  • [19:17:01] <torusle> so the numbers of samples is right..
  • [19:17:13] <emeb> maybe the DMA isn't getting stuff in the right sequence?
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  • [19:17:53] <torusle> and the data I send is fine as well. I changed my code to stream not into the McBSP register but into a free 16mb of data.
  • [19:17:54] <emeb> you're doing this from the DSP, right?
  • [19:18:08] <torusle> later I saved that memory-region and the data looks perfect.
  • [19:18:11] <torusle> yes.
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  • [19:18:51] <torusle> I have the feeling that the McBSP is sometimes seening byte writes, and sometime seeing dword writes..
  • [19:19:15] <emeb> hmm - I'd expect more distortion for word/byte confusion
  • [19:19:17] <torusle> and it always takes whatever it sees, puts that into the internal buffer and ignores the writes to the uppe bytes.
  • [19:19:31] <torusle> emeb, yes..
  • [19:19:46] <torusle> I would expect worse things as well.
  • [19:19:58] <torusle> fun fact: The bug changes with the frequency of the test-signal.
  • [19:20:06] <emeb> kewl
  • [19:20:18] <torusle> and it is independent on my DMA-buffer size.
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  • [19:21:50] <torusle> to bad that I can't tap the McBSP2 signals... I have GoLogic analyzer at work, and if the pins would be accessible someow I could simply hook it up, do a capture and see if I mess up on the digital side or if the Codec does strange things.
  • [19:22:15] <emeb> try sending it to one of the other McBSPs & capture that?
  • [19:22:16] <_av500_> use thin needle and steady hand?
  • [19:22:33] <emeb> or buy an xM with McBSP2 exposed
  • [19:22:37] <torusle> av500 that would be doable.
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  • [19:23:20] <torusle> next try will be to hook up one of those "to simple to mess up with" codecs (the WD thing) and give it another try.
  • [19:24:01] <torusle> but streaming to a unused McBSP is a clever idea!
  • [19:24:31] <torusle> <-- will ask his boss if it's okay if I borrow some super-expensive test-equipment over the weekend..
  • [19:25:00] * emeb installs gerbv to look at the BB layout
  • [19:27:10] <torusle> emeb, btw, and to close this problem: I tried each and every TWL4030 register so far, and it seems that the problem somewhat changes if I mess up with the anti-klick and soft volume registers..
  • [19:27:32] <torusle> but I have verified that I write exactly the same thing into the chip as the Linux ALSA driver does..
  • [19:27:40] <emeb> torusle: not surprising
  • [19:27:43] <torusle> it's a strange beast..
  • [19:27:56] <torusle> it's not?
  • [19:28:06] <emeb> agree
  • [19:28:08] <torusle> emeb, tell me more please!
  • [19:28:42] <emeb> The anti-click etc features do some funny processing on the audio
  • [19:28:58] <emeb> no telling what happens when they're not set up right
  • [19:29:17] <emeb> or if something else is set up wrong and they screw things up further
  • [19:29:24] * _av500_ chose well not to use the TWL
  • [19:29:39] <emeb> _av500_: best to use something simpler
  • [19:29:45] <torusle> good to know..
  • [19:29:47] <emeb> what did you use
  • [19:29:51] <_av500_> WM
  • [19:29:53] <torusle> maybe I'm not all that stupid.
  • [19:30:05] <emeb> yay Wolfson
  • [19:30:14] <_av500_> we looked at TWL, and a) the audio was crap
  • [19:30:20] <emeb> nod
  • [19:30:23] <_av500_> and b) the PMIC part was not enough
  • [19:30:51] * koen wonders who thought it was a good idea to put audio into a PMIC
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  • [19:31:05] <_av500_> koen: a middle manager?
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  • [19:31:30] <emeb> "audio is analog, power is analog - let's put them on the same die!"
  • [19:31:48] <_av500_> yeah
  • [19:31:49] <torusle> I knew that the TWL is not hifi, but to get things up and running it ought to be good enough. I never had thought that I burn weeks into getting even basic playback running (capture works like a charm btw..)
  • [19:31:54] <emeb> and don't get started on the key scanner
  • [19:32:05] <emeb> and USB phy
  • [19:32:10] <emeb> and... and...
  • [19:32:59] <emeb> torusle: part of the problem is that for efficient audio power amps they do some crazy stuff.
  • [19:33:06] <emeb> so output is more complicated than input
  • [19:33:39] <torusle> <--- will place an order for a WD codec tonight.
  • [19:33:48] <torusle> enough is enough :-)
  • [19:34:01] <emeb> my hat's off to sakoman for getting the TWL working as well as it does...
  • [19:34:10] <torusle> absolutely.
  • [19:34:46] <emeb> torusle: don't forget - WM8731, not WD. :)
  • [19:35:21] <torusle> emeb, cut'n'pasted.. thanks
  • [19:35:35] <emeb> lunchtime...
  • [19:39:15] <torusle> On the positive side: I do *lot* if I??C at work, and the I??C blocks on the OMAP3530 are exquisite. The client I communicate with misbeaves a lot on the I??C, but the OMAP block always recoverd internally... Heads up for those who designed that part.
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  • [21:02:53] <mru> _av500_: http://blogs.arm.com/smart-mobile-devices/product-scalability-archos-leverages-the-arm-ecosystem-to-enable-choice/
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  • [21:19:32] <ds2> geeze...being able to read docs is a dependency now?!
  • [21:20:07] <emeb> what - you don't want to pull the entire LaTex system in when you need docs?
  • [21:20:12] <jkridner> mru: just tweeted/rss-feeded that article. I didn't find much meat in it.
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  • [21:20:30] * emeb browses the Archos site - nice new toys
  • [21:20:41] <mru> jkridner: of course not, it's not the kind of post that tells you anything
  • [21:21:04] <mru> I only pasted the link to feed av500's ego
  • [21:22:16] <_av500_> mru: : lol and thanks
  • [21:22:35] <_av500_> its from an arm marketroid, but still, nice :)
  • [21:23:18] <ds2> anyone here going to the ARMcon?
  • [21:23:30] <mru> there are too many cons
  • [21:23:34] <emeb> _av500_: I seen the uSD slot is available on the 43 model
  • [21:23:37] <_av500_> floodcon
  • [21:23:43] <_av500_> emeb: yep
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  • [21:23:53] <sakoman> ds2: too much $$
  • [21:24:08] <_av500_> does one get to shout at arm there, i might go...
  • [21:24:10] <mru> sakoman: the idea is to get someone else to pay
  • [21:24:24] <ds2> sakoman: not even the exhibits only pass?
  • [21:24:43] <mru> when is it btw?
  • [21:24:54] <sakoman> mru: teach me how to do that :-)
  • [21:25:02] <emeb> Looks like the HD camera is better than the one the fruit company provides on their media player...
  • [21:25:11] <_av500_> emeb: ?
  • [21:25:20] <_av500_> its a 2mp or so
  • [21:25:26] <ars> I am looking for an stable kernel image that is compatible with Revision C3 and has support ttyS1 on expansion header. Any suggestions?
  • [21:25:28] <sakoman> ds2: exhibits pass + travel + lodging + meanls
  • [21:25:32] <dm8tbr> _av500_: why did you fall for that macrobe scam again?
  • [21:25:33] <ds2> emeb: that fruit company is worm... and it does have a big chunk missing
  • [21:25:39] <emeb> yep - specs on iPod Touch camera is .9MP
  • [21:25:50] <_av500_> emeb: 720p is .9mp
  • [21:25:53] <ds2> sakoman: nevermind... somehow I thought you were really local
  • [21:26:44] <koen> ars: try the angstrom kernel, that one is rock solid on my beagles and supports serial on the expansion header
  • [21:27:13] <ars> can i get it using narcissus
  • [21:30:38] <emeb> _av500_: yes - looks like Archos 2Mpx > fruitco .9Mpx. \o/
  • [21:32:42] <koen> ars: yes
  • [21:34:18] <ars> koen: ok i will try that .. i thought narcissus will only give me angstrom filesystem ..can i only get uImage
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  • [21:38:45] <_av500_> emeb: in cheap tiny sensors MP is moot...
  • [21:39:22] <mru> fewer pixels may even be better
  • [21:39:48] <emeb> _av500_: ah - more area/pixel = better light sensitivity?
  • [21:40:00] <mru> less noise
  • [21:40:28] <mru> there's also no point going past the diffraction limit of the optics
  • [21:40:45] <_av500_> mru: yep
  • [21:41:13] <emeb> and those tiny apertures don't give you much in that way...
  • [21:43:02] <mru> that said, the iphone camera is widely regarded as one of the worst phone cameras in recent times
  • [21:43:31] <_av500_> mru: on the 1st iphone the cam was crap.
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  • [21:43:43] <_av500_> but the builtin viewer app was the best
  • [21:44:11] <mru> for viewing on that silly screen you don't need much of a camera
  • [21:44:15] <_av500_> being able to slide thru 1000 images with the flick offa finger was great
  • [21:44:24] <_av500_> no, the viewer of the pics you took
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  • [21:44:37] <mru> that's what I mean
  • [21:44:50] <mru> the screen is like half a pixel wide
  • [21:45:01] <_av500_> jaja
  • [21:45:21] <sakoman> ds2: It's a 4.5 hour drive there for me, so more than just a simple day trip
  • [21:45:59] <mru> you can make the day longer
  • [21:46:07] <_av500_> or get a real car
  • [21:46:18] <sakoman> mru: not my idea of fun :-)
  • [21:46:21] <mru> a day can be made arbitrarily long
  • [21:46:33] <mru> there are two ways
  • [21:46:34] <_av500_> #define HOURS_PER_DAY 54
  • [21:46:48] <mru> _av500_: that only works if normal days have 26 hours
  • [21:46:57] <mru> either you follow the sun around
  • [21:47:05] <mru> or you watch powerpoint presentations
  • [21:47:20] <mru> any conf is likely to have plenty of the latter
  • [21:47:54] <_av500_> mru: following the sun in a car ends quickly on the west coast
  • [21:48:00] <_av500_> so conf it is :)
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  • [21:48:29] <emeb> not if you have an amphibious car!
  • [21:49:02] <_av500_> a segway with a snorkel?
  • [21:49:11] <mru> the conf is on the west coast, right?
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  • [22:11:33] <ars> koen: How to get only kernel image using Narcissus image builder .. i could not figure that out
  • [22:13:06] <ben_kludged> koen: you da man ,,, to have the patience for newbees
  • [22:14:26] <ben_kludged> koen: but you put together a very good devel env,,, and i give you a big 'nod
  • [22:14:34] <jkridner> ars: if you are only looking for a kernel, just pull it from koen's demo: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard
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  • [22:15:54] <jkridner> ars: Narcissus would give you the same kernel and modules.
  • [22:16:17] <ben_kludged> koen: sorry,, i did'nt acknowledge your team,,, ya'll get a big respectful nod
  • [22:16:29] <jkridner> ars: koen recently updated the demo folder to have the 2.6.32-r88 kernel, which I believe is the latest.
  • [22:16:44] <ars> jkridner: oh ok .. thanks for the link
  • [22:17:13] <ars> jkridner: does 2.6.32 supports serial port on expansion header
  • [22:17:31] <jkridner> that seems to be what koen mentioned previously, yes.
  • [22:17:56] <jkridner> I haven't tried. I've got nothing on my expansion header right now.
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  • [22:18:30] <ars> ok np .. i will check that out
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