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  • [02:33:37] <DanaG> "PVRShell: Unable to create surface"
  • [02:33:44] <DanaG> Using maverick on beagleboard.
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  • [02:41:30] <DanaG> And say, how do you compile the demos on LinuxGeneric?
  • [02:41:45] <DanaG> make_common.mak:9: /Builds/OGLES2//make_platform.mak: No such file or directory
  • [02:42:07] <DanaG> ah, sdkdir
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  • [02:43:20] <DanaG> Even with SDKDIR set correctly, it still can't find it.
  • [02:43:23] <DanaG> make_common.mak:9: /home/dana/downloads/GFX_Linux_SDK/OGLES2/Builds/OGLES2//make_platform.mak: No such file or directory
  • [02:43:54] <DanaG> oh, I see... I need to install the whole sdk, not just extract.
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  • [02:45:58] <DanaG> ah, make_platform.mak doesn't exist on LinuxGeneric.
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  • [03:01:46] <DanaG> Oh, and of course, their "Linux Generic" won't compile on 64-bit.
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  • [03:06:34] <Beagle2> anybody porting edk2 on beagle?
  • [03:08:46] <DanaG> edk2? What's that?
  • [03:08:59] <DanaG> EFI developer kit, or Xilinx EDK, or what?
  • [03:09:11] <Beagle2> Tiano EFI
  • [03:09:27] <DanaG> ah.
  • [03:10:20] <Beagle2> There is a UEFI for Beagle board and wonder if it can boots from USB
  • [03:10:43] <DanaG> Hmm, mind linking me to that? Now I'm interested.
  • [03:11:02] <Beagle2> check out tiano.org
  • [03:11:08] <DanaG> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/tianocore/index.php?title=BeagleBoardPage
  • [03:11:08] <DanaG> ah
  • [03:12:44] <Beagle2> sorry it is tianocore.org
  • [03:13:20] <Beagle2> and click on edk2
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  • [03:16:51] <DanaG> So, once you have the edk2 loaded on the beagle, what do yo do with it?
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  • [03:17:49] <DanaG> It's not like it'll know the memory map.
  • [03:18:10] <DanaG> And there's no grub-efi-armel.
  • [03:18:12] <Beagle2> If you don't know UEFI it hard to explain but in short it just like BIOS
  • [03:19:22] <Beagle2> it initialize the hardware and boot up OS that support UEFI, like Linux
  • [03:19:36] <sklnd> why would you want that over uboot or whatever
  • [03:20:17] <DanaG> I do know UEFI on x86-64.
  • [03:20:21] <DanaG> My laptop supports it, though poorly.
  • [03:21:07] <Beagle2> UEFI support by major players like Intel, Microsoft, Apple...
  • [03:21:51] <Beagle2> uboot IMO is only for Linux community
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  • [03:23:19] <Beagle2> anyway if anybody know if current edk2 BeageBoard can boot from USB?
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  • [03:45:39] <DanaG> I still don't get why or HOW you'd use tianocore on armel.
  • [03:47:38] <DanaG> "how" as in "how you'd boot"
  • [03:48:01] <sklnd> i was more interested in the why
  • [03:49:33] <sklnd> i mean i guess some things are done because 'why not'
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  • [04:09:31] <DanaG> argh, sucks that omap doesn't do glx.
  • [04:10:27] <buZz> write a wrapper ;)
  • [04:11:39] <buZz> or use http://opensource.dylogic.com/DOGLESS/
  • [04:12:21] <DanaG> ... or an XGL on top of ES. =??
  • [04:12:36] <buZz> yeah exactly
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  • [04:48:30] <DanaG> say, what's a good, tiny wm that'll just do fullscreen?
  • [04:48:32] <DanaG> twm?
  • [04:48:54] <DanaG> tinywm?
  • [04:50:56] <sklnd> dwm is pretty damn small
  • [04:51:48] <javaJake> There's a window manager that is made of 20 lines of code or smoething like that
  • [04:52:04] <javaJake> Oh, it's tinywm, nvm :)
  • [04:56:00] <DanaG> hmm, tinywm seems to do nothing.
  • [04:56:42] <DanaG> dang, nodm doesn't set up xauth.
  • [04:57:24] <DanaG> Or rather, twm fails: X Error of failed request: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)
  • [04:58:59] <DanaG> Er, tinywm.
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  • [05:00:59] <DanaG> And dwm shows a bar I don't want, at the top.
  • [05:02:19] <DanaG> ah, dwm is so tiny it can't be reconfigured.
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  • [05:16:13] <DanaG> rooby rooby roo?
  • [05:17:40] <prpplague> rut row
  • [05:18:15] <hitlin37> i want to do a vsub for floating,but arm says it is affected by vfp vector mode.any alternative is there?
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  • [05:35:28] <_av500_> round too
  • [05:36:08] <DanaG> Error detected while loading xmonad configuration file: /home/ubuntu/.xmonad/xmonad.hs
  • [05:36:08] <DanaG> Please check the file for errors.
  • [05:36:08] <DanaG> ubuntu@beagleboard:~$ Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
  • [05:37:10] <DanaG> ah, I need the -dev package.
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  • [05:38:57] <DanaG> Can't install it. Needs gcc-4.1 4.1.2-27ubuntu1, which depends on gcc-4.1-base (= 4.1.2-27ubuntu1) (UNAVAILABLE)
  • [05:45:38] <DanaG> Say, if I wanted to do something like javascript and have it read from and write to serial port... how would I do that? Or what else should I use?
  • [05:45:48] <DanaG> Currently, the thing I'm reimplementing is coming from Flash.
  • [05:47:01] <dm8tbr> you could try opening the serial port and writing to it...
  • [05:47:09] <dm8tbr> it might just work
  • [05:47:25] <ds2> DanaG: on a browser?
  • [05:48:19] <DanaG> I already intend to shovel characters from serial port to keyboard (using xdotool)... but I may end up needing to be able to write to serial port.
  • [05:48:41] <DanaG> I could always use a hack, such as a cgi script on a local tiny web server.
  • [05:49:00] <ds2> or tomcat :D
  • [05:49:25] * ds2 hands out shovels to pile on the manure
  • [05:49:33] <DanaG> Alternately, if the browser (Prism) can trigger a "beep", maybe there's a way to catch that.
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  • [05:51:52] <DanaG> Or heck, maybe I could even re-implement it with a mere shell script.
  • [05:52:31] <DanaG> I'll be reimplementing somebody else's buggy Flash thingy: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7bd7ej79pt89sw6/Energy%20of%20Motion.swf
  • [05:52:40] <DanaG> note that 'A' is enter.
  • [05:53:26] <dm8tbr> DanaG: prism sounds like 'app'. you could make it an firefox extension. those are allowed pretty much everything
  • [05:53:47] <dm8tbr> as prism is basically a UI-less firefox IIRC
  • [05:53:53] <DanaG> Yup, have seen it -- it's good.
  • [05:54:10] <DanaG> Now I'm just banging my head against how forms ignore some CSS stuff and totally break sizing.
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  • [05:54:29] <DanaG> Alternately, I could do the thing as a bash script... but I have no idea how I'd read from and write to the FB.
  • [05:55:05] <ds2> *yawn*
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  • [07:35:55] <mza> Hi, I need to install a 2.6.34 kernel in order to utilize the SGX of my beagle board, but the OE I got seems to only go up to 2.6.32, how do I get the .34 kernel?
  • [07:36:18] <mza> I think I've done it with OE before, but can't remember what I did to get it
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  • [07:37:53] <isbric> is it posible to use the host usbconnector on the beaglebord to emulate a serialtty?
  • [07:38:18] <_av500_> yes
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  • [07:38:55] <isbric> im thinking sins i use it for power from a laptop somtimes it would be nice to be able to use the usb connection for terminal use aswell.
  • [07:40:22] <isbric> _av500_: how is it done?
  • [07:40:46] <_av500_> google has teh answers
  • [07:45:14] <isbric> _av500_: the only thing im finding is to use an external usb2serial converter, im intrested in making the beagleboard register as an usb2serial converter itself.
  • [07:45:29] <_av500_> yes
  • [07:45:41] <_av500_> g_serial
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  • [08:02:04] <DanaG> though, what do you set console= to be?
  • [08:03:13] <dm8tbr> g_serial does not support usage as console out of the box AFAIK
  • [08:07:05] <isbric> so is there any simple way to do this?
  • [08:07:19] <isbric> or documented way...
  • [08:08:01] <dm8tbr> it depends if you need early boot messages
  • [08:08:23] <dm8tbr> for my hardware I just patch things together in the initramdisk
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  • [08:09:33] <dm8tbr> just load musb_hdrc in master mode and then g_serial with several tty's
  • [08:09:51] <dm8tbr> and then e.g. do cat /proc/kmsg >/dev/ttyGS0
  • [08:10:57] <isbric> dm8tbr: do know where i could find documentation on this?
  • [08:11:55] <dm8tbr> kernel has documentation bout g_serial and cdc_acm
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  • [08:23:17] <madjid> hello dears
  • [08:23:57] <madjid> i want to know about VoIP on beagle board
  • [08:24:30] <madjid> i try to download X11 angstrom
  • [08:25:06] <madjid> what is the additional file to suitable for VoIP
  • [08:26:05] <mza> I've built some packages with openembedded and want to install them on the beagle, but opkg complains about md5sum mismatch, how can I get around this?
  • [08:28:49] <madjid> yeah i want to know how can i find opkg and run
  • [08:29:49] <madjid> is opkg avilable in X11 link
  • [08:29:51] <madjid> ?
  • [08:30:29] <mza> opkg is installed on your beagleboard if you got angstrom installed
  • [08:30:33] <mza> madjid: ^^^
  • [08:30:47] <madjid> there is not available in the list of preconfig. files
  • [08:30:56] <adj> madjid: eh? just download an install angstrom demo image and you will have both X11 and opkg
  • [08:38:26] <koen> mza: md5sum mismatch means those packages are already built upstream and you could have just opkg installed them
  • [08:39:24] <mza> koen: Trying to install the SGX-packages (libgles), but they don't work, perhaps because they require a different kernel? (I got 2.6.32)
  • [08:40:04] <madjid> thanks Mza
  • [08:40:16] <mza> koen: Would that be correct? Do I need 2.6.34, and if so, how can I get it installed in the easiest manner?
  • [08:41:34] <madjid> which package is good for VoIP in intranet configuration
  • [08:41:36] <madjid> ?
  • [08:42:00] <madjid> Voice over IP
  • [08:43:16] <koen> mza: angstrom is using 2.6.32 for beagle
  • [08:43:57] <madjid> thanks adj
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  • [08:46:30] <mza> koen: OK, but should the SGX gles packages work with it? I am getting omaplfb and bufferclass_ti modules not found...?
  • [08:46:44] <Steven_> Hi, would it be possible to install emdebian in the NAND flash memory and not use an SD card?
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  • [08:48:29] <jacekowski> yes
  • [08:48:33] <jacekowski> you just need to know how
  • [08:48:50] <jacekowski> but it's only 256M
  • [08:50:15] <Steven_> do you thing you could get emdebian on with XFCE in 256M?
  • [08:50:31] <mru> why not angstrom?
  • [08:52:00] <Steven_> I already know debain quite well and I need it as an embedded development platform
  • [08:52:13] <mru> debian isn't really suited for embedded
  • [08:52:25] <Steven_> even Embedded Debian?
  • [08:52:29] <mru> (not implying it's suited for anything else either)
  • [08:52:33] <mru> of course not
  • [08:52:37] <mru> it's still debian
  • [08:53:02] <mru> it's "optimised" for the worst cpu of each architecture
  • [08:53:19] <mru> which means it's SEVERAL TIMES slower than angstrom on modern ARM
  • [08:53:41] <Steven_> Can anyone point me to an article on installing a system (whether it be debian or not) on the NAND flash. I havent found much information on that
  • [08:53:59] <mru> install ubifs, then proceed normally
  • [08:54:20] <mru> debian probably doesn't have ubifs...
  • [08:54:34] <Steven_> I detect that someone doesnt like debian
  • [08:54:52] <Steven_> ;P
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  • [08:57:40] <Steven_> Are there any articales on ubifs installs
  • [08:57:46] <mza> Aha I just needed a depmod -a
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  • [08:59:03] <madjid> how can i install th eangstrum image after downloading
  • [08:59:44] <madjid> ?
  • [09:01:14] <mza> madjid: have a look under Running Linux on the Board
  • [09:01:25] <mza> madjid: http://www.openismus.com/documents/linux/embedded/beagleboard_getting_started
  • [09:01:46] <mza> madjid: I am sure there are several other howtos if you google a bit
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  • [09:17:35] <Steven_> I still cannot find any information about creating a UBIFS rootfs for angstrom and burning it to Flash?
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  • [09:18:06] <madjid> thanks mza
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  • [09:23:26] <hgs> how to i force oe angstrom to build ti-gstreamer and other ti dependencies (dsplink, ce engine) for a particular linux kernel for omap?? i guess oe is automatically patching the ti builds based on the linux kernel version..so how do i specify it??
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  • [09:25:54] <Steven_> The u-boot.bin in the angstrom demo folder from the 6th of august freezes after the i2c check and does not come up with the dram check
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  • [09:27:04] <DanaG> Steven_: you need a new MLO / x-loader (they are one and the same thing, I believe).
  • [09:27:50] <Steven_> I'm using the MLO from the same folder dated 28th of july
  • [09:28:22] <koen> if it freezes, you're not
  • [09:28:31] <koen> I bet it says "1.4.2" on your serial console
  • [09:28:38] <ice> Does USB selective suspend/resume and workup work one beagleboard.
  • [09:29:09] <ice> I tried kernel 2.6.29-rc3 and kernel 2.6.34-rc2 with selective suspend/resume enabled, then pluggin a usb hub.
  • [09:29:30] <_av500_> there are some issues with usb suspend afaik
  • [09:29:55] <ice> Usb hub get enumerated for the first time but when I disconnect and plug again it fails to enumerate
  • [09:30:18] <Steven_> it does. yet I have put the correct MLO on the SD card
  • [09:30:33] <Steven_> How do I update tyhe board
  • [09:31:01] <ice> do you know whether there are any fixes for the issues
  • [09:31:59] <Steven_> do I follow the instructions at the very top of the /demo/beagleboard page
  • [09:39:56] <Steven_> Ive updated and I'm no in the angstrom demo
  • [09:40:26] <Steven_> however there is a problem with my serial. the first character I type seems to get messed up
  • [09:42:32] <Steven_> I also get a lot of end_request: I/O error, dev mtdblock0, sector errors at boot?
  • [09:42:42] <DanaG> Say, what is omap-hwmod?
  • [09:43:05] <DanaG> Steven_: make sure the partition is fat16 for safe measure, and make sure MLO is the first file on the partition after format.
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  • [09:43:32] <DanaG> And is C4 supposed to have mpufreq=500, or 720?
  • [09:43:33] <koen> DanaG: a new approach to PM and subdevice management
  • [09:43:44] <DanaG> Yet, there seems to be no cpufreq.
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  • [09:43:53] <Steven_> ok sure will do
  • [09:44:01] <koen> mpurate is independant of cpufreq
  • [09:44:17] <DanaG> yeah, I mean, two separate questions.
  • [09:44:21] <DanaG> cpufreq went with hwmod.
  • [09:44:29] <DanaG> mpufreq is separate.
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  • [09:45:48] <DanaG> I also wonder if g_ether's EEM support is unbroken... it's been broken for me, always.
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  • [09:47:22] <DanaG> ah, "switched to new clocking rate"
  • [09:48:00] <DanaG> Now, for longevity, is it okay to leave it at 720?
  • [09:48:56] <DanaG> oh, and: PVRShell: Unable to create surface
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  • [09:51:43] <Ralph_> Hello everybody
  • [09:53:28] <Ralph_> is it ok to put this line in a uboot script ... setenv dvimode 1920x1080@30 ... would that work?
  • [09:56:14] <DanaG> And say, what's with all those voice downlink doodads in alsamixer?
  • [09:56:56] <DanaG> How do you even use these supposed "voice" pins?
  • [09:56:58] <xitrumch> hello guys, I have a Beagleboard with an LCD ExpansionBoard, now I need to compile a new u-boot image, but I dont know how to compile u-boot
  • [09:57:06] <xitrumch> could anyone tell me how?
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  • [09:59:16] <Ralph_> how do I convert a boot.cmd to boot.scr?
  • [10:03:54] <mru> mkimage
  • [10:04:33] <Ralph_> don't have it
  • [10:05:30] <Ralph_> how can I download it from another computer with ubuntu that does connect to the internet?
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  • [10:17:51] <Ralph_> would the mkimage I have installed in my ubuntu machine do the same job?
  • [10:19:48] <koen> it should
  • [10:22:14] <Ralph_> and would it do the job a boot.scr with one line that sais: setenv dvimode 1920x1080@30
  • [10:22:57] <koen> Ralph_: something like http://gitorious.org/angstrom/openembedded/blobs/org.openembedded.dev/recipes/angstrom/angstrom-uboot-scripts/720p.cmd
  • [10:23:09] <koen> since you would need a bigger framebuffer as well
  • [10:25:14] <Ralph_> yes but that gives me 1280x720@60
  • [10:25:21] <koen> duh
  • [10:26:07] <Ralph_> what's that bit omapfb.vram=0:8M,1:4M,2:4M' about?
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  • [10:27:20] <koen> video ram allocation
  • [10:28:26] <Ralph_> can u not just tell me how to do it?
  • [10:29:07] <koen> didn't I just do that?
  • [10:29:59] <Ralph_> but I want 1920x1080@30 not 1280x720@60
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  • [10:34:06] <koen> 12:22 < koen> Ralph_: something like http://gitorious.org/angstrom/openembedded/blobs/org.openembedded.dev/recipes/angstrom/angstrom-uboot-scripts/720p.cmd
  • [10:34:16] <koen> note the "something like"
  • [10:35:58] <Ralph_> I did koen .... I just don't know how to change it to what I need
  • [10:39:06] <koen> and you replaced 'hd720' with '1920x1080@30' ?
  • [10:39:49] <Ralph_> oh is that all ... sorry I got confused with the vram bit ...
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  • [11:01:09] <madjid> if i want to install the Angstrom to beagle board it is required to connect the board to computer or just copy the kernel to sd and boot it
  • [11:06:58] <koen> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/?id=30
  • [11:10:56] <Ralph_> I'm getting 640x480 now
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  • [11:18:33] <Ralph_> any ideas what now wrong?
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  • [11:26:56] <jacekowski> madjid: just copy it
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  • [11:32:36] <rsv> any idea why the kernel hangs at calibration delay?
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  • [11:34:58] <sundar> sdsa
  • [11:35:03] <sundar> hi all
  • [11:35:20] <sundar> Have some doubt regarding angstrom Toolchain
  • [11:35:28] <sundar> any body ?!
  • [11:36:29] <sundar> HELP
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  • [11:36:49] <jkridner|work> sundar: get the question out.
  • [11:37:29] <jkridner|work> see http://beagleboard.org/support/faq #2.
  • [11:37:45] <jkridner|work> there is also #oe, if we can't answer here.
  • [11:38:12] <jkridner|work> but, right now, I'm getting closer to getting up and making breakfast and might miss your question.
  • [11:38:17] <sundar> I am trying to compile some C++ code for beagle board used the angstrom tool chain for the libraries. but it seems to be missing some C++ headers
  • [11:38:22] <sundar> any idea?
  • [11:38:37] <jkridner|work> did you download the headers?
  • [11:38:57] <jkridner|work> are you using http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/ ?
  • [11:39:04] <sundar> I donwloaded the tool chain and extracted them
  • [11:39:18] <sundar> the include directory seems to be missing
  • [11:39:27] <sundar> some headers
  • [11:39:30] <jkridner|work> you also ran the script to setup the environment vars?
  • [11:39:32] <sundar> yea
  • [11:39:59] <sundar> no
  • [11:40:02] <sundar> i am afraid
  • [11:40:09] <sundar> but what kind of env
  • [11:40:18] <sundar> variables will it set ?
  • [11:40:51] <jkridner|work> they why don't you read the file and see what vars it will set?
  • [11:41:18] <jkridner|work> it will give paths to the header files that are included with the toolchain, for one.
  • [11:42:01] <sundar> ok
  • [11:42:05] <sundar> will try that
  • [11:42:51] <sundar> thanks
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  • [11:49:47] <Ralph_> anybody know how to set the beagleboard resolution to 1920x1080@30?
  • [11:54:00] <jacekowski> how to set beagleboard resolution to 999999999x99999999@66
  • [11:54:06] <jacekowski> Ralph_: have you tried google?
  • [11:54:16] <jacekowski> and wiki
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  • [12:07:55] <isbric> is it posible to make the beaglebord register as an pl2303 device insted of using g_serial and all that, it's just about to messy to be worth it.
  • [12:08:53] <madjid> Is it possible to run VoIP on beagleboard?
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  • [12:10:48] <madjid> thanks jacekowski
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  • [12:14:50] <ojm> http://omark.wippiespace.com/vest1.jpg
  • [12:14:55] <ojm> http://omark.wippiespace.com/vest2.jpg
  • [12:15:12] <ojm> http://omark.wippiespace.com/wear2.jpg
  • [12:15:18] <ojm> I'm wearing my beagleboard :)
  • [12:17:23] <DaveDavenport> hmmm my oe fails on expat
  • [12:25:07] <DaveDavenport> aah stupid ubuntu libz bug
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  • [12:27:03] <Steven_> Hi, I've got the angstrom demo up and running and I'm trying to use opkg update and opkg upgrade. the update works but the upgrade doesn't. It will tell me that the packages could not be installed
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  • [12:31:13] <hgs> hi all, iam using the following gstreamer pipeline http://pastebin.com/bWtcCxMV. the audio and video are not in sync. any clues??? using h.264 video + aac audio in mp4 container
  • [12:33:46] <hgs> any pointer on where to start debugging?? i tried changing the buffer values and numbufs but its not helping
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  • [12:42:04] <ddd> anyone knows, if the head file can only be included one time in Codec Engine DSP side? otherwise, it will give "multiple defined" error . thx
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  • [13:10:33] <sundar> hi all
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  • [13:10:52] <sundar> Help regarding C++ compilation using Angstrom tool chain
  • [13:10:58] <sundar> i am getting these errors
  • [13:11:00] <sundar> Undefined symbol __aeabi_vec_new_nocookie
  • [13:11:08] <sundar> any ideas?1
  • [13:11:25] <sundar> Am i missing some shared libs?!
  • [13:11:27] <marcompile> hello and good morning. how do I set the permanent mac address of my Zippy2 ks8851? I get "Cannot get EEPROM data: Operation not supported" on "ethtool -e eth0"
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  • [13:19:58] <marcompile> maybe my ks8851 module is old?
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  • [13:20:03] <marcompile> im using r86
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  • [13:30:40] <sakoman> mru: do you plan to submit your xM related assembly code patches to the u-boot list? If not, would you like me to do it?
  • [13:31:59] <foobar> Anyone here get openembedded to work with the beagleboard? I tried to make a quick test, but I can't get 'bitbake nano' to work. Here's the exact steps I ran and the error is at the bottom: http://pastebin.com/17nAvnAb I must be missing something important. Is the bitbake package broken for ubuntu or am I missing something?
  • [13:32:27] <foobar> oh the error is basically 'ERROR: Build of /home/administrator/oe/openembedded/recipes/glibc/glibc_2.9.bb do_package failed'
  • [13:36:33] <marcompile> you can disable locale generation on local.conf
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  • [13:37:19] <foobar> So that's what is causing this?
  • [13:37:28] <marcompile> no
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  • [13:37:53] <marcompile> idk what is causing this.. maybe the qemu or something else, i'm not sure
  • [13:38:12] <marcompile> but if you just want to do some testing, you can do that for now and see what is the next error
  • [13:39:49] <foobar> marcompile: it's already commented out on the line '# ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = "0"'
  • [13:40:07] <foobar> or should I uncomment that line?
  • [13:40:20] <marcompile> just uncomment the line
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  • [13:42:18] <foobar> okay compiling. This probably will take an hour :\
  • [13:44:22] <marcompile> i bet it takes more
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  • [13:46:45] <koen> foobar: uninstall bitbake and use http://gitorious.org/angstrom/angstrom-setup-scripts
  • [13:47:03] <foobar> okay. I think you said this before and I forgot to do that >_>
  • [13:47:16] <foobar> thanks
  • [13:47:22] <koen> foobar: you know, like http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ tells you to
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  • [13:54:19] <mru> sakoman: feel free to submit my patches wherever you see fit
  • [13:54:31] <mru> I don't even remember what they did anymore...
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  • [14:09:11] <jkridner|work> ojm: fun!
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  • [14:09:52] <jkridner|work> ojm: got a blog to put those picks in that I can put into the BeagleBoard.org RSS feed?
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  • [14:12:40] <sakoman> mru: OK, thanks! the patches apply errata fixes only for the appropriate cpu type and revision
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  • [14:13:14] <mru> ah right, those patches
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  • [14:56:55] <Steven_> Hey, Im having problems with the angstrom demo running usb peripherals#
  • [14:57:27] <Steven_> I have a usb to ethernet adapter which works fine
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  • [14:58:00] <Steven_> however usb mice, keyboards and a usb hub wont work
  • [14:58:18] <Steven_> it just says Cannot enable port 2. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
  • [14:58:42] <emeb> which port - EHCI?
  • [14:58:54] <Steven_> yeah not the mini port
  • [14:59:13] <emeb> OK - EHCI is high-speed only
  • [14:59:28] <emeb> kbd / mouse usually aren't high speed
  • [14:59:36] <emeb> your hub may not be high speed
  • [15:00:17] <Steven_> ok
  • [15:00:57] <Steven_> ah its full speed
  • [15:01:09] <Steven_> (works on my laptop)
  • [15:01:24] <emeb> get a high-speed hub & you should be fine.
  • [15:01:47] <Steven_> where do I need find one? How would I know without buying it
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  • [15:02:37] <emeb> beats me. go to store, read the box?
  • [15:02:51] <emeb> search online, read the tech specs?
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  • [15:03:07] <Steven_> is there a way to use the other port with a converter?
  • [15:03:20] <emeb> yes. get OTG cable.
  • [15:04:31] <Steven_> will it just work with the cable or does it have to be configured
  • [15:04:46] <emeb> mini-A OTG cable here: https://specialcomp.com/beagleboard/RevC2.htm
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  • [15:04:58] <emeb> current Angstrom kernel should auto-detect
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  • [15:19:21] <Steven_> if the usb hub supports all three modes (high, low and full) will it work on the EHCI port
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  • [15:22:10] <koen> Steven_: it should
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  • [16:22:15] <emeb> fwiw - following Crofton's instructions yesterday got past the alsa-utils issue
  • [16:25:25] <koen> drinking beer in a cowfield?
  • [16:26:02] <emeb> ?
  • [16:27:10] <koen> ah, he gave you a different advice then
  • [16:27:57] <emeb> yep - explicitly defined how to prefer ncurses 5.7 & rebuild.
  • [16:28:22] <emeb> nothing earth-shaking, but good advice for this n00b
  • [16:28:33] <Crofton> emeb, doesn't make binary feeds ....
  • [16:28:51] <emeb> that too
  • [16:28:59] <Crofton> koen, my thinking is we should remove the DEF_PREF=-1 from ncurses and bump the PR
  • [16:29:12] <koen> yeah
  • [16:29:23] <Crofton> no sense doing this more than once
  • [16:29:26] <koen> I don't think minimal and micro care about feeds
  • [16:29:29] <Crofton> right
  • [16:29:43] <Crofton> if they have an issue, they can complain
  • [16:29:55] <emeb> they'll prolly complain anyway
  • [16:29:59] <Crofton> heh
  • [16:30:02] <Crofton> not likely ...
  • [16:31:44] <emeb> just so I understand - does this mean the binary feeds will catch up eventually?
  • [16:31:47] <koen> http://eqcomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/snail-mail.jpg
  • [16:32:03] <emeb> kyoot
  • [16:36:54] <Crofton> yeah
  • [16:37:30] <Crofton> ncurses will upgrade via the rev change, and things that use it will be forced to upgrade via the PR bump
  • [16:38:36] <koen> Crofton: I officially know stuff about SDKs: http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/4905006424/
  • [16:39:11] <Crofton> rofl
  • [16:39:17] <koen> Crofton: I think ncurses would be a nice point to bump DISTRO_PR so we can sort out the openssl issues as well
  • [16:39:17] <Crofton> congratulations!
  • [16:39:20] <emeb> is it made of chocolate?
  • [16:39:31] <koen> chinese metal
  • [16:39:39] <emeb> blech!
  • [16:39:54] <emeb> how are you supposed to eat that?
  • [16:39:55] <koen> it's quite heavy, so it's good at weighting papers
  • [16:40:08] * mru got an award once too
  • [16:40:13] <mru> it was made of glass
  • [16:40:14] <emeb> doorstop
  • [16:40:32] <koen> US companies are funny that way
  • [16:40:54] <emeb> I've got a nice cup here from a former employer...
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  • [16:41:34] <emeb> and a WWV clock from another
  • [16:43:11] <Crofton> I got an award once, but I had to give it to the bank
  • [16:43:43] <Crofton> we should have a page on the website dedicated to awards people get from work due to them using OE
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  • [17:10:47] * sakoman has always preferred cash over awards
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  • [17:26:21] <mru> my award came with some cash too
  • [17:26:28] <mru> still not worth it
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  • [17:36:52] <jkridner|work1> anybody seen this yet: http://blog.stackfoundry.com/2010/08/new-products-beagleboard-hardhat-industrial-process-control-io-for-the-beagleboard/
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  • [17:39:36] * jkridner|work1 was going to consider pulling in software from http://gitorious.org/beagleboard-hardhat/beagle-access into the xM release to help promote the hardhat, but nothing is there yet.
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  • [17:47:51] <koen> jkridner|work1: I hope it has an eeprom
  • [17:48:17] <ojm> jkridner|work1: yeah, I've got a blog. http://www.linux.com/community/blogs/blogger/Olli Markkanen/
  • [17:48:34] <ojm> It's all about that rig, started last summer
  • [17:49:14] <jkridner|work1> cool ojm, Google never found it for me.
  • [17:49:15] <ojm> jkridner|work1: yeah, I've got a blog. http://www.linux.com/community/blogs/blogger/OjM/ seems to work too
  • [17:49:43] <emeb> looks like he's got an ID assigned here: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardPinMux#Expansion_boards
  • [17:51:08] <jkridner|work1> ojm: I put it in the BeagleBoard.org RSS feed now.
  • [17:51:15] <ojm> ok
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  • [17:52:48] <emeb> not seeing any schematics or kernel patches for hardhat tho
  • [17:53:31] <high-rez> With regards to the CPU, is the only difference between the beagleobard and the beagleboard-xm cpu just the frequency its clocked at ?
  • [17:56:44] <emeb> more than that
  • [17:56:51] <emeb> completely different part number
  • [17:58:16] <marcompile> hello. does anyone know how do I fix my ks8851 (Zippy2) MAC address? each time it loads it gets a different address. Also, I get "Operation not supported" when using ethtool. Also the optional eeprom for ks8851 is present on board
  • [18:06:49] <sakoman> mru: One of your patches needed tweaks to get it to apply on mainline u-boot
  • [18:07:07] <sakoman> mru: if you want to take a look, I have them staged here:
  • [18:07:14] <sakoman> http://www.sakoman.com/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=u-boot.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/omap4-exp
  • [18:10:02] <mru> looks as I remember it
  • [18:10:13] <mru> I trust you've tested it
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  • [18:11:57] <sakoman> :-)
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  • [18:17:28] <emeb> high-rez: more details on CPU differences here - http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Texas-Instruments-DM3730
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  • [18:25:08] * emeb is interested in this: http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Archos-32-on-FCC
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  • [18:29:35] <emeb> interesting how the camera module is mounted...
  • [18:29:37] <koen> ask av500 :)
  • [18:29:37] * mru saw something similar to that in the archos dungeon...
  • [18:30:14] <emeb> I would ask av500, but I'd imagine there are wards and curses placed on that knowledge
  • [18:31:17] <emeb> I see they've "ported android" to it. :)
  • [18:32:16] <koen> yes
  • [18:32:26] <koen> av500 knows *it*
  • [18:32:44] * emeb wonders how long until someone "ports" angstrom too.
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  • [18:32:58] * mru could name the chip inside
  • [18:33:17] <emeb> do you dare?
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  • [18:33:35] <mru> let's just say it's an omap-family
  • [18:33:41] <mru> whether or not TI calls it that
  • [18:33:48] * emeb is shocked - shocked.
  • [18:33:58] <koen> heh
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  • [18:34:47] <emeb> looks like a nifty gizmo.
  • [18:34:57] <emeb> I'd buy one of those before an iPod touch.
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  • [18:36:13] <emeb> too bad no uSD tho
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  • [18:54:05] <djlewis_> hi guys... :)
  • [18:54:12] <mru> hi djlewis_
  • [18:54:18] <emeb> dood!
  • [18:54:44] <djlewis_> toys, toys, all we everr want are toys, and well there is something else ;)
  • [18:55:23] <mru> we want money
  • [18:55:25] <mru> to buy toys
  • [18:55:27] * emeb is curious
  • [18:55:46] <djlewis_> emeb: has been married too long hehee.
  • [18:56:19] <emeb> ;)
  • [18:58:00] <djlewis_> and lets not overlook BEER!!
  • [18:58:12] <koen> you have beer in the US?
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  • [18:58:16] <djlewis_> that makes two things.. hmm the list os growing.
  • [18:58:18] <mru> koen: yes, they do
  • [18:58:24] <djlewis_> some of us call it that ;)
  • [18:58:31] <mru> no, I mean real beer
  • [18:58:40] <mru> some of it very good actually
  • [18:58:59] * emeb got some marzipan potatoes last night
  • [18:59:06] <mru> that's not beer
  • [18:59:22] <djlewis_> is emeb turning those into beer?
  • [18:59:32] <djlewis_> ya needs some grains
  • [18:59:33] <koen> I had some good beers in new orleans
  • [18:59:44] <koen> can't remember the name of the beer or brewery, though
  • [19:00:16] <emeb> so now the list is: toys, <ahem>, beer - anything else
  • [19:00:18] <djlewis_> some larger cities here have beerhouse / restaurants with brewing on site.
  • [19:00:49] <mru> emeb: girls
  • [19:01:05] <emeb> I'd lumped that in with <ahem>
  • [19:01:11] <mru> ok
  • [19:02:25] <mru> and then there's _BEER_ http://brewdog.com/sink_the_bismark.php
  • [19:02:34] <mru> no idea what that stuff tastes like
  • [19:03:31] <emeb> 82 proof "beer".
  • [19:03:48] <emeb> that's a stretch
  • [19:06:03] <koen> I read about brewdog in the in-flight magazine
  • [19:06:36] <koen> I wonder why 'proof' is used more than volume percent
  • [19:06:45] <mru> bigger number
  • [19:06:59] <koen> approx twice as big
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  • [19:07:09] <koen> something with water and gunpowder
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  • [19:59:33] <ds2> hmmm
  • [20:01:00] <mru> hmmm to you too ds2
  • [20:01:22] <ds2> =)
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  • [20:18:13] <maelcum> kblin: still interested in the usb bug? seems like it has been fixed a few weeks ago.
  • [20:18:15] <koen> eFfeM: cmake.bbclass has DEPENDS += cmake-native already
  • [20:26:09] <kblin> maelcum: the revC OTG thing?
  • [20:28:08] <kblin> maelcum: I've fixed my host port recently by putting on another cap, but I guess I'll need the OTG port again soon
  • [20:28:23] <kblin> maelcum: I take the trick is yet another kernel upgrade?
  • [20:31:51] <maelcum> kblin: linux-omap-pm commit c0f1f8e38fda8e345cad9269c559b4f036378120
  • [20:32:14] <maelcum> "USB: musb: Enable the maximum supported burst mode for DMA" [...] This is a fix for buggy hardware [...]
  • [20:33:03] <maelcum> from june 24th
  • [20:33:25] <kblin> yeah, found it
  • [20:33:26] <maelcum> (merged at some later time of course)
  • [20:33:36] <kblin> the sha1 makes for easy googling
  • [20:33:44] <maelcum> heh
  • [20:34:29] <maelcum> i'd be interested if it works. i am currently using a guruplug which, by the way, also has hardware issues.
  • [20:35:32] <kblin> so I've heard
  • [20:35:58] <kblin> I've stayed away from those after the second PSU died in my sheevaplug in under a year
  • [20:36:17] <maelcum> it overheats very easily and if you use the wifi module, it crashes completely :>
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  • [20:36:52] <maelcum> well. i'm running it with the case open so the logic chips that can survive high temperatures don't fry the psu that can't.
  • [20:38:11] <maelcum> i've also put two metal cans on the heatspreader which seems to be sufficient to prevent crashes due to overheating. obviously this needs a better solution, something with fins.
  • [20:41:25] <mru> kblin: oh, yours too?
  • [20:42:25] <kblin> mru: I gather that >90% of dead sheevas have a broken PSU
  • [20:42:37] <maelcum> the thermal design is a total failure
  • [20:42:45] <mru> mine broke, I replaced the dead cap, and a month later another one blew
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  • [20:42:56] <marcompile> what is everheating?
  • [20:42:57] <mru> since then I'm running it off an atx psu
  • [20:43:04] <marcompile> *overheating ?
  • [20:43:22] <kblin> mru: I'm using an external PSU now, as well
  • [20:43:24] <eFfeM> koen, ah ok, didn't know that saw that some recipes used cmake and didn;t have it
  • [20:43:25] <mru> during the hot summer weather, it took to melting down under high load
  • [20:43:29] <maelcum> the heat from the logic chips isn't properly dissipated, that is all
  • [20:43:35] <eFfeM> do you want me to revert the changes?
  • [20:43:47] <marcompile> what logic chips?
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  • [20:44:01] <maelcum> the digital stuff: cpu and interface chips
  • [20:44:10] <kblin> marcompile: on the guruplug, it seems like the ethernet phys are the problem
  • [20:44:13] <maelcum> memory etc
  • [20:44:41] <mru> I think I need to remove it from it's box entirely
  • [20:44:42] <kblin> the workaround recommended is to run the two GbE ports at 100mbit max
  • [20:44:44] <mru> and spread it out a bit
  • [20:45:01] <maelcum> mru: this is what i'm doing, and i'm going to mount a large heatsink onto the heatspreader
  • [20:45:28] <kblin> on the sheeva, the psu heats up under high load, and if you're on 230V, it's even worse
  • [20:45:41] <maelcum> the heatspreader is way too hot to touch even with the case open and moderate load
  • [20:45:48] <kblin> I killed my first psu by using a non-powered usb drive, it seems
  • [20:45:58] <maelcum> i believe that it is not actually the psu that generates the heat
  • [20:46:27] <kblin> maelcum: the guruplug has it's own thermal problems
  • [20:46:42] <maelcum> the psu of my guruplug doesn't get very warm
  • [20:46:44] <maelcum> i see
  • [20:46:50] <kblin> at least according to the plugcomputer.org forums
  • [20:46:59] <mru> hmm, I have a 10x15" piece of aluminium here...
  • [20:47:17] <kblin> in the guru, it's CPU and ethernet, on the sheeva, it's the psu
  • [20:47:31] <mru> kblin: my sheeva melts even with ext psu
  • [20:47:43] <kblin> mru: oh? mine didn't so far
  • [20:47:56] <maelcum> ...and the end result is the same: the caps dry out
  • [20:48:02] <kblin> but I don't really stress it alot
  • [20:48:06] <eFfeM> koen, revert the cmake-native patches ?
  • [20:48:16] <kblin> it's a file server
  • [20:48:16] <mru> kblin: mine was fine for months
  • [20:48:26] <mru> until I left for a few weeks
  • [20:48:32] <mru> which coincided with hot weather
  • [20:48:42] <koen> eFfeM: maybe raise the problem first on oe-devel
  • [20:48:50] <kblin> mru: my first sheeva blew up within the warranty period
  • [20:49:22] <eFfeM> koen, ok will do so tomorrow (almost bedtime here)
  • [20:49:32] <eFfeM> need to get up at 6
  • [20:50:15] <kblin> maelcum: anyway, thanks for the heads-up on the musb fix
  • [20:50:25] <maelcum> yw
  • [20:50:53] <kblin> maelcum: I'll have to build a new kernel for my revC anyway, to enable the ceph modules
  • [20:51:14] <kblin> unless my hawkboard arrives soon
  • [20:51:37] <kblin> probably need a new kernel for the beagle anyway
  • [20:51:57] <kblin> it takes more than a single board to build a cluster, after all :)
  • [20:55:04] <ojm> beowulf cluster of atomic supermen?
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  • [20:56:43] * maelcum would like to buy a multicore omap dev board
  • [20:57:04] <maelcum> strange that most dev boards seem to be released after the cpus have been released in consumer products
  • [20:57:06] <mru> maelcum: panda?
  • [20:57:17] <maelcum> oh, i'll have to look that up
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  • [21:02:00] <marcompile> is there any omap4 kits available?
  • [21:02:11] <marcompile> i have a (crappy) nvidita tegra 200
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  • [21:02:28] <marcompile> well, the tegra itself is not crappy, but the nv support is
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