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  • [02:25:02] <emeb> anybody got a scooby snack?
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  • [02:45:16] * prpplague hands emeb a scooby snack with a pint of good IPA
  • [02:45:27] <djlewis> hmmm
  • [02:46:59] <prpplague> ho ho hum
  • [02:47:15] <djlewis> yum, yum, yum
  • [02:48:04] <prpplague> djlewis: what's cookin this evening?
  • [02:48:49] <emeb> nom
  • [02:48:51] <djlewis> Hi prpplague, been wondering bout your whereabouts.
  • [02:48:54] <emeb> thanx!
  • [02:49:23] <emeb> djlewis: how things?
  • [02:49:37] <djlewis> just trying to control my temper topward a arse-hoe in my astro club
  • [02:49:52] <emeb> there's (at least) one in every group...
  • [02:50:01] <djlewis> and we have a good one
  • [02:50:17] <emeb> if you're gonna be one, might as well be a good one...
  • [02:50:32] <djlewis> anyway, i was going to do some astro viewing tonight but some sky muck has ruined my oarty
  • [02:50:41] <djlewis> party
  • [02:50:43] <prpplague> djlewis: been nose to the grind stone on board bringup
  • [02:50:56] <emeb> prpplague: panda keeping you busy?
  • [02:51:10] <djlewis> prpplague: figures. the showdog?
  • [02:51:29] <prpplague> emeb: massive busy
  • [02:51:36] <prpplague> djlewis: languising
  • [02:51:49] <emeb> prpplague: keeps the groceries on the table...
  • [02:51:56] <prpplague> indeed
  • [02:52:07] <djlewis> not for me, I dont get paid to do that stuff
  • [02:52:37] <emeb> prpplague: lest I sound like the rest of the chorus - "when is it going to ship?" :)
  • [02:53:23] <prpplague> emeb: the darn thing is done, just seems i can't find the time to get the production started
  • [02:54:11] <emeb> getting in the queue at the board stuffers?
  • [02:54:39] <prpplague> yea, just been too busy to get everything arranged
  • [02:55:55] <emeb> details, details...
  • [02:56:20] <djlewis> so what has emeb begging scooby snacks tonight?
  • [02:56:57] <emeb> djlewis: eh - just coding up a little table generator for my latest audio project
  • [02:57:08] <djlewis> ah
  • [02:57:17] <emeb> trying out geany for the 1st time - seems pretty nice. Thanks for the suggestion
  • [02:57:39] <djlewis> works great for me and the things I have tried.
  • [02:57:57] <emeb> nice the way it handles syntax errors.
  • [02:58:03] <emeb> just like up-town
  • [02:58:19] <djlewis> being able to customize its build options makes it handy.
  • [02:58:46] <emeb> I've still got the training wheels on but hopefully I'll get to that eventually.
  • [02:58:56] <djlewis> I like how it opens sub calls for wasy location.
  • [02:59:02] <djlewis> easy
  • [02:59:17] <djlewis> in the left window
  • [02:59:31] <emeb> need to check that out on another project - this one is just main().
  • [02:59:37] <djlewis> hehee
  • [02:59:54] <djlewis> for me it is more than a editor, I classify it a ide
  • [03:00:02] <emeb> yep
  • [03:00:20] <emeb> I assume you can put dependencies & libs in the project definition
  • [03:00:43] <djlewis> I have it on mu Ubuntu Intel/AMD systems to.
  • [03:01:09] <emeb> yeah - this is on my fedora 13 development machine
  • [03:01:30] <emeb> that i5-760 I was talking about last week. Built it over the weekend
  • [03:01:30] <djlewis> mostly all I have done is set compile /. link args when needed.
  • [03:01:49] <djlewis> It can call a makefile
  • [03:02:02] <djlewis> so you are up to date now.
  • [03:02:14] <emeb> sorta/kinda.
  • [03:02:20] <emeb> runs quick
  • [03:02:36] <djlewis> old hardware on new mainboard>
  • [03:02:38] <djlewis> ?
  • [03:02:53] <emeb> new cpu/mobo/ram/psu
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  • [03:03:08] <emeb> old HD/DVD-RW/video
  • [03:03:14] <emeb> old case
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  • [03:03:34] <djlewis> the 74GB flash drive on the I5-950 was swuft.
  • [03:03:50] <emeb> yoiks
  • [03:03:54] <emeb> quick boot?
  • [03:04:14] <djlewis> we slowed it down to 11 seconds with w7 pro
  • [03:04:26] <emeb> MS to the rescue!
  • [03:05:13] * djlewis recalls years back, MS put a delay in the boot sequence for the new pentiums to avoid crashing
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  • [03:05:30] <emeb> new machine benchmarks 2x-6x faster than old one on my usual apps.
  • [03:05:30] <djlewis> I wonder if that was ever taken out
  • [03:06:02] <emeb> and that's running on just 1 core.
  • [03:06:10] <emeb> Haven't found many things that use all 4
  • [03:06:28] <emeb> I guess I can set flags in OE to hog the rest
  • [03:06:39] <djlewis> running hardinfo tickles them a little
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  • [03:07:06] <djlewis> there are , i think, 6 benchmarks in it
  • [03:08:47] * emeb downloads hardinfo
  • [03:10:17] <djlewis> I didnt get a chance to do my benchmarks on the i(x)-950
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  • [03:12:14] <emeb> hmm - generates quite a lot of stuff...
  • [03:12:37] <djlewis> dont bother opening it with browser, just use util
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  • [03:13:16] <emeb> the gui is pretty nice
  • [03:13:30] <djlewis> yep
  • [03:13:42] <emeb> they ought to update the reference machines in the benchmarks
  • [03:13:42] <djlewis> what I called the util
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  • [03:14:07] <djlewis> Oh really! so whats exactly with using a piii or a old mac?
  • [03:14:44] <djlewis> hmm I left out a key word ( 'exactly wrong with'
  • [03:14:55] <emeb> wonder if there's a list of benchmarks on the website...
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  • [03:15:15] <djlewis> I havent updated mine yet.
  • [03:15:23] <djlewis> http://www.djlewis.us/files/stuff/benchmarks.html
  • [03:15:29] <GrizzlyAdams> djlewis: all benchmarks should use a 1MHz 6502 as reference
  • [03:15:41] <djlewis> damn right GrizzlyAdams
  • [03:15:42] <emeb> lol
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  • [03:15:51] * emeb has one in the garage
  • [03:16:00] <emeb> OSI superboard - my first computer...
  • [03:16:06] * djlewis has one in a box in the back room
  • [03:16:20] <djlewis> kim-1
  • [03:16:22] <GrizzlyAdams> AII+
  • [03:16:33] <djlewis> ooh an apple
  • [03:16:47] <djlewis> was that the open board?
  • [03:17:24] <djlewis> i recall you could buy a apple without a case
  • [03:17:41] <djlewis> even saw one
  • [03:18:50] <GrizzlyAdams> twas the apple one
  • [03:19:03] <GrizzlyAdams> you can get a replica one
  • [03:19:15] <djlewis> no thanks
  • [03:19:44] <djlewis> I have seen replica Altair s-100's out now.
  • [03:20:08] <djlewis> but I have the real thing
  • [03:20:26] <emeb> my college roommate still has an old IMSAI 8080 s-100 system in his garage
  • [03:20:27] * ds2 shakes fist
  • [03:20:41] <djlewis> ds2: at what?
  • [03:20:45] <emeb> "you geezers get offa my lawn"
  • [03:20:50] <ds2> the regulators
  • [03:20:52] <djlewis> hehee
  • [03:20:56] <ds2> .32
  • [03:21:09] <djlewis> .32?
  • [03:21:13] <ds2> emeb: not all of us have enough water to have a lawn like you ;)
  • [03:21:18] <djlewis> you shaking a 32 caliber at them now?
  • [03:21:26] * emeb has rock in his yard
  • [03:21:37] <ds2> it is calibers, that'd be 50 :)
  • [03:21:41] * djlewis has skeeters in his hard
  • [03:21:47] <emeb> owche
  • [03:22:09] <djlewis> yard
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  • [03:22:25] <djlewis> tofl at the typo's
  • [03:22:35] <djlewis> rofl
  • [03:22:40] <djlewis> cant type tonight
  • [03:22:47] <emeb> too much ice cream
  • [03:22:52] <emeb> sugar buzz
  • [03:23:23] <djlewis> practically laying down and I cant see where my two fingers are landing on the keyboard
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  • [03:23:38] <emeb> it's not a laptop - it's a bellytop
  • [03:23:57] <djlewis> I am a new generation couch patotoe
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  • [03:24:06] <emeb> been there
  • [03:24:12] <djlewis> no tv here
  • [03:24:30] <emeb> are you sure you're an american?
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  • [03:24:43] <djlewis> I wuz till they went digital :(
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  • [03:24:59] <djlewis> and blew away my oq rez ntsc
  • [03:24:59] <emeb> can't get ATSC in the sticks, eh?
  • [03:25:05] <djlewis> low rez
  • [03:25:15] <djlewis> thats right
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  • [03:25:28] <emeb> I'm 11mi from the antenna farm...
  • [03:25:34] <emeb> line-o-sight.
  • [03:25:40] <djlewis> oh, what a view that must be ;)
  • [03:25:49] <emeb> get > 20 chls of cr*p
  • [03:25:49] <ds2> I am bare within defraction range :(
  • [03:26:19] <emeb> Put an ATSC decoder card in the new machine.
  • [03:26:32] <djlewis> I can sometimes get one channel of about a half dozen if I go upstairs and hold the antenna high
  • [03:26:39] <emeb> now can watch cr*p on my monitor... yay...
  • [03:26:48] <emeb> or record it to the drive...
  • [03:27:06] <ds2> no 500ft high tower?
  • [03:27:08] <djlewis> and I am on a mountain
  • [03:27:26] <emeb> that's a lightning rod...
  • [03:27:36] <djlewis> no towers to blink lights and interfere with my astronomy
  • [03:27:57] <ds2> you need some neighbors to install carbon arc lamps all over ;)
  • [03:27:58] <djlewis> my property is lightning rod enough
  • [03:28:05] <emeb> hmm - no idea how high you need to be before lights are required.
  • [03:28:34] <djlewis> as low as the c130's sometimes fly over, I dunno
  • [03:28:59] <djlewis> I can see rivets sometimes
  • [03:29:13] <emeb> "pilot didn't shave this morning..."
  • [03:31:08] <djlewis> time for me to go out and either look into deep space or close the dome. Weather map is not looking so good.
  • [03:31:17] <emeb> good luck
  • [03:31:24] <djlewis> bbl
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  • [03:38:39] <notzed> hmm, morning.
  • [03:39:44] <emeb> gm
  • [03:41:37] <ds2> @%#!@#@!@$## circular resource definitions
  • [03:41:46] <emeb> where to start?
  • [03:42:04] <kblin> over there
  • [03:42:10] * kblin points
  • [03:42:32] <emeb> ... in a funhouse mirror
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  • [05:43:03] <Ira_> sorry got disconnected
  • [05:43:33] <Ira_> is anyone able to tell me how I tell which tty serial from BB is connected to?
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  • [05:46:31] <Ira_> hello I have a noob question is anybody on?
  • [05:47:21] <Ira_> I have bb talking via serial on Prolific USB how do I tell which /dev/tty my desktop linux thinks it is?
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  • [05:48:37] <Ira_> can anyone help me with tty
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  • [05:49:18] <Ira_> Help???
  • [05:50:16] <Ira_> I have a prolific USB hooked from BB to my PC how do I tell which tty PC Linux thinks BB is??
  • [05:53:19] <Ira_> Hello anyone awake??
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  • [06:28:27] <ben_kludged> ira_: i just got my bb but i gots it connected to ubuntu laptop several ways... serial, usb, and ethernet ,, what kind of connection you lookin for?
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  • [06:32:51] <ben_kludged> anybody here configured a new 4gb sdhc card? i gots my boot and root filesystems configed and formatted,, but i created a swap fs there too,,, does that get formatted? or does the os just use it raw?
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  • [06:34:13] <ben_kludged> Disk /dev/sdb: 4072 MB, 4072669184 bytes
  • [06:34:13] <ben_kludged> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 495 cylinders
  • [06:34:13] <ben_kludged> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
  • [06:34:13] <ben_kludged> Disk identifier: 0x00000000
  • [06:34:13] <ben_kludged> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
  • [06:34:14] <ben_kludged> /dev/sdb1 * 1 11 88326 c W95 FAT32 (LBA)
  • [06:34:16] <ben_kludged> /dev/sdb2 12 450 3526267+ 83 Linux
  • [06:34:18] <ben_kludged> /dev/sdb3 451 486 289170 82 Linux swap / Solaris
  • [06:34:39] <rsv> how much area does u-boot take when it is running
  • [06:35:16] <ben_kludged> dont know,,,
  • [06:35:34] <ben_kludged> i will install angstrom demo here
  • [06:35:59] <rsv> ben_kludged: my question is not related to your query
  • [06:36:13] <ben_kludged> ah
  • [06:38:11] <rsv> whats problem you are seeing?
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  • [06:49:56] <Ceriand|desktop> ben_kludged: you have to use the mkswap command to format the swap partition
  • [06:50:22] <Ceriand|desktop> and then tell angstrom about it somehow
  • [06:50:45] <Ceriand|desktop> not sure the method it uses though
  • [06:51:04] <Ceriand|desktop> there's always the good 'ol swapon command though
  • [06:52:05] <Ceriand|desktop> rsv: u-boot takes marginally more space in ram than the file size depending on what is compiled in
  • [06:52:26] <ben_kludged> ah,, i will check that out thanks
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  • [06:53:35] <rsv> just trying to find out why kernel starts are 0x80008000
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  • [06:54:11] <rsv> where is this information specified and why does it have to start at 0x80008000. which allows 32 mb for u-boot and kernel params
  • [06:54:24] <Ceriand|desktop> rsv: it's usually recommend to start the kernel at least 32k from the start of ram so the decompresser has some room to work
  • [06:54:39] <amitk> rsv: it is specified in mkimage
  • [06:55:11] <amitk> when you convert the compressed kernel image to a uImage that can be used by u-boot
  • [06:55:16] <Ceriand|desktop> IIRC, u-boot is relocated in ram near the end when it loads
  • [06:56:17] <ben_kludged> also when i formatted my root filesystem i gots this message,,,, what is the best way to fsck the root filesystem ? mount it to my ubuntu box a d fsck, can this fsck be done on the beagle? This filesystem will be automatically checked every 25 mounts or
  • [06:56:18] <ben_kludged> 180 days, whichever comes first. Use tune2fs -c or -i to override.
  • [06:56:20] <Ceriand|desktop> x-load loads u-boot at 0x80008000, then the u-boot init code copies u-boot to a higher address and jumps to it
  • [06:56:23] <rsv> u-boot is at the end of ram? if i have a 256mb ram - does it reside at the end?
  • [06:56:39] <rsv> Ceriand|desktop: where can i find this address?
  • [06:57:14] <Ceriand|desktop> rsv: if you do an objdump on the u-boot ELF file it'll show the addresses where it resides after relocation
  • [06:58:01] <Ceriand|desktop> ben_kludged: you can do the fsck on beagle if you want, it's up to you
  • [06:58:48] <Ceriand|desktop> doing it on the desktop would probably run into fewer issues if there were problems though
  • [07:00:12] <ben_kludged> is fsck part of the angstrom kernel? if i umount the partition to fsck will angstrom have the fsck program? or should i just tune2fs and turn off the checks? what do you do?
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  • [07:01:49] <Ceriand|desktop> you don't need to use tune2fs if you don't want to check
  • [07:02:19] <Ceriand|desktop> rsv: u-boot relocates to 0x80e8000
  • [07:02:31] <Ceriand|desktop> http://git.denx.de/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=u-boot.git;a=blob;f=board/ti/beagle/config.mk;h=879b2e236fcf5a8aa4af58ceea1b5b32950f5d17;hb=HEAD
  • [07:03:09] <Ceriand|desktop> ben_kludged: I just use ext3 and don't really worry about fsck unless there is a problem
  • [07:03:19] <ben_kludged> after 25 boots,,,, and every boot there after i get a message that fsck needs to be run on that partition
  • [07:03:32] <ben_kludged> you ignore it?
  • [07:03:39] <Ceriand|desktop> basically
  • [07:03:51] <rsv> yes i see that in objdump output
  • [07:04:00] <rsv> which is after 15mb in ram
  • [07:04:02] <Ceriand|desktop> ben_kludged: as long as you shutdown/reboot cleanly it shouldn't be much of an issue
  • [07:04:16] <ben_kludged> thanks
  • [07:04:29] <ben_kludged> i figured that,, but it is still annoying
  • [07:04:42] <tasslehoff> morning. what speed class sd-cards do you use for the beagle? we have a class 2 micro sd in an adapter, and the latency when using fwrite seems to cause issues. is class 2 so slow that I should get a faster one before I start looking for other possible explanations?
  • [07:05:20] <Ceriand|desktop> tasslehoff: I believe the OMAP3 is capable up to a 52MHz clock on the SD bus, so what ever class that is
  • [07:06:07] <Ceriand|desktop> there was also an issue where using a 4-bit card in an 8-bit slot (like the beagle) would default to 1-bit mode
  • [07:06:11] <Ceriand|desktop> in the kernel that is
  • [07:06:40] <Ceriand|desktop> so you might want to make sure you have an up to date kernel
  • [07:07:44] <tasslehoff> Ceriand|desktop: thanks
  • [07:08:25] <rsv> so the first 14 MB is free and then u-boot resides
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  • [07:11:04] <Ceriand|desktop> tasslehoff: https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/93519/
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  • [07:12:45] <Ceriand|desktop> tasslehoff: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-omap@vger.kernel.org/msg23696.html is the thread on linux-omap
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  • [07:23:42] <tasslehoff> Ceriand|desktop: thanks. is there a way to check which mode my board is running to see if it affects me?
  • [07:26:11] <Ceriand|desktop> tasslehoff: do you have debugfs enabled in your kernel?
  • [07:28:52] <tasslehoff> Ceriand|desktop: not unless it's enabled by default
  • [07:29:50] <Ceriand|desktop> are you using angstrom?
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  • [07:44:58] <tasslehoff> Ceriand|desktop: yes
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  • [07:58:36] <eFfeM_work> anyone a suggestion on how to embed a squashfs image into another image?
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  • [07:58:49] <_koen_> good morning all
  • [07:59:06] <eFfeM_work> hi
  • [08:00:09] <alcy> I was wondering if I could use my board to act as a (portable) apt mirror, say about 50 nodes need to be brought up through debian fully automated install, and n/w bandwidth could be a constraint.
  • [08:00:57] <alcy> not sure of how much load the board could handle though
  • [08:01:14] <alcy> ...ofcourse, with an external hard disk
  • [08:01:16] * dm8tbr would use an NAS with GigE interface for that
  • [08:02:35] <alcy> whoops. sounds better. I just don't like my board kept in a closet without use :P
  • [08:03:20] <jacekowski> well, most of cheap NAS devices are slow
  • [08:03:38] <jacekowski> i mean my wd NAS with 2T disk in it can do 150Mbits
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  • [08:03:50] <jacekowski> and well, proper nas costs a lot more
  • [08:03:54] <mru> and a beagle will do less
  • [08:04:04] <mru> the beagle makes a rubbish nas
  • [08:04:10] <jacekowski> beagle will make more
  • [08:04:15] <mru> not possible
  • [08:04:25] <jacekowski> that hdd have 120MHz arm cpu in it
  • [08:04:32] <jacekowski> beagle is 6 times faster
  • [08:04:34] <mru> cpu speed is not the issue
  • [08:04:36] <jacekowski> it is
  • [08:04:39] <mru> no
  • [08:04:47] <jacekowski> well, on that nas it is
  • [08:04:47] <mru> connectivity is
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  • [08:04:55] <mru> the beagle has no fast I/O
  • [08:05:02] <jacekowski> usb is fast enough
  • [08:05:12] <mru> it won't give you more than 150Mbps
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  • [08:05:24] <jacekowski> well, you are arguing with facts
  • [08:05:35] <mru> I'm using facts in an argument
  • [08:05:37] <jacekowski> i managed to max out usb
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  • [08:05:43] <jacekowski> on beagle board
  • [08:05:59] <mru> usb link is 480Mbps half duplex
  • [08:06:06] <hitlin37> does arm assembly in ffmpeg follows gas format?
  • [08:06:07] * alcy thinks 150 Mbps is good enough for me anyway, so a beagle or a separate cheap NAS, would both work
  • [08:06:16] <mru> with considerable overhead
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  • [08:06:42] <mru> hdd and eth sharing a single usb link will not give more than 150Mbps
  • [08:06:48] <jacekowski> design of usb allow you to get 300Mbits in one direction without any problems
  • [08:06:51] <mru> even if you had a >100Mbps usb-eth adaptor
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  • [08:07:11] <mru> only if nothing else is using the link and you never change direction
  • [08:07:13] <jacekowski> mru: beagle board have 2 usb ports
  • [08:07:18] <jacekowski> two separate ports
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  • [08:07:34] <mru> the musb is crippled by shitty dma
  • [08:07:44] <mru> you'll be happy to get 50Mbps out of it
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  • [08:09:13] <hitlin37> are there multiple format exists or everyone follows gas format only
  • [08:09:25] <mru> ffmpeg uses gas for arm yes
  • [08:09:46] <hitlin37> ok
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  • [08:10:13] <jacekowski> it's called syntax
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  • [08:12:35] <medel> Hello
  • [08:12:46] <hitlin37> mru ,if i use ffmpeg fft in my signal processing app,it seems slower than openamx one!
  • [08:12:47] <medel> there is anyone there???
  • [08:13:29] <mru> what size input? which transform?
  • [08:13:33] <medel> I want to know if any of you has touched Ubuntu-Beagleboard
  • [08:13:55] <mru> medel: not with a 10-foot pole
  • [08:14:23] <medel> because I'm getting some problems defining the image
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  • [08:15:10] <hitlin37> im using this :omxSP_FFTFwd_CToC_SC32_Sfs
  • [08:15:16] <hitlin37> input size 11
  • [08:15:20] <mru> english please
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  • [08:15:39] <amitk> medel: you could ask on #ubuntu-arm
  • [08:16:56] <hitlin37> order is 11
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  • [08:17:25] <mru> so size 2048?
  • [08:17:30] <hitlin37> yes
  • [08:17:32] <hitlin37> right
  • [08:17:36] <mru> and which transform?
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  • [08:18:07] <hitlin37> FFt only
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  • [08:18:21] <mru> complex or real?
  • [08:18:27] <hitlin37> complex
  • [08:19:04] <mru> av_fft_init(11, 0)?
  • [08:19:46] <hitlin37> yes
  • [08:19:55] <hitlin37> 0 is for forward
  • [08:19:58] <hitlin37> right
  • [08:19:59] <mru> yes
  • [08:20:10] <mru> and do you get the same result with ffmpeg and omx?
  • [08:21:20] <hitlin37> both yes and no
  • [08:21:44] <hitlin37> when the data is being read from a file both works ok
  • [08:22:50] <hitlin37> when it reads in real time,ffmpeg one does not respond and openamx one works fairly ok(but still not upto the level)
  • [08:23:03] <mru> "does not respond"?
  • [08:23:48] <koen> not even "talk to the hand"?
  • [08:23:57] <hitlin37> i mean the app never proceeds further
  • [08:24:13] <mru> smells like misaligned buffers and idiotic kernel trapping enabled
  • [08:24:36] <hitlin37> hmmm
  • [08:24:48] <mru> cat /proc/cpu/alignment
  • [08:25:00] <hitlin37> well ,buffers i did properly,i'm sure of it
  • [08:25:08] <mru> I'm not
  • [08:25:11] <hitlin37> i aligned it n tested
  • [08:25:13] <hitlin37> ok
  • [08:25:26] <hitlin37> wait a sec
  • [08:25:27] <mru> run that command
  • [08:25:32] <mru> what does it say?
  • [08:26:00] <hitlin37> all 0
  • [08:26:20] <mru> paste it dammit
  • [08:26:51] <hitlin37> its on my target board
  • [08:27:03] <koen> pastebin works for that as well, no?
  • [08:27:04] <mru> of course it is
  • [08:27:15] <hitlin37> ok,doing it
  • [08:27:33] <mru> koen: you really need to nuke that trapping
  • [08:27:50] <mru> at least turn it off for userspace
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  • [08:27:58] <mru> if there's some shitty driver that needs it
  • [08:28:32] <_koen_> how do you turn it off for userspace?
  • [08:28:41] <_koen_> apart from 0 > alignment
  • [08:28:54] <mru> modify the kernel
  • [08:28:58] <mru> I don't remember the details
  • [08:29:02] <mru> it's easily possible
  • [08:29:25] <mru> do you have my patch to print warnings on unaligned kernel accesses?
  • [08:32:11] <hitlin37> http://pastebin.com/1pudfJf1
  • [08:32:45] <mru> _koen_: what's the number to make it signal instead
  • [08:32:56] <ssvb> 4
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  • [08:33:53] <hitlin37> i dont remember but there are flags for showing warniing for unaligned access
  • [08:34:21] <mru> now "echo 4 >/proc/cpu/alignment"
  • [08:34:27] <hitlin37> ok
  • [08:34:36] <mru> then cat it again and make sure the last line say (signal)
  • [08:34:53] <alcy> _koen_, any clue if Angstrom will run on a Samsung S3C2450 ARM 9 board
  • [08:35:25] <hitlin37> last line say 4 now
  • [08:35:30] <hitlin37> signal
  • [08:35:32] <mru> good
  • [08:35:35] <mru> now run your app again
  • [08:35:58] <hitlin37> ok,but this 4 turns off unaligned access?
  • [08:36:15] <mru> it sends the process a SIGILL on unaligned access
  • [08:36:29] <mru> which dumps core by default
  • [08:36:32] <hitlin37> ok,thats good.let me test now
  • [08:36:43] <_koen_> alcy: I see no reason why it shouldn't
  • [08:36:49] <mru> you don't want any unaligned accesses
  • [08:36:57] <ssvb> that's SIGBUS to be precise
  • [08:37:06] <mru> ssvb: not for neon unaligned
  • [08:37:17] <mru> ssvb: that's probably a bug, but it's how it is
  • [08:37:43] <mru> with 'ignore' it spins forever trapping on the same instruction
  • [08:39:37] <alcy> _koen_ : nice. well recently one of my associates got conned by importing a bunch of those ultra-cheap netbooks which now only comes with windows ce and I am just scratching my head on installing angstrom on it. gotta rip it apart to see if a serail connection is possible
  • [08:39:50] <mru> koen: rule #3?
  • [08:40:19] <tasslehoff> Ceriand|desktop: (or others). If I enable debugfs in my angstrom kernel I can use it to find out in which mode my sdcard is used?
  • [08:40:46] <Ceriand|desktop> tasslehoff: yea, you can dump the registers and see if the right bits are set
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  • [08:42:04] <_koen_> mru: yeah, try and find out :)
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  • [08:53:19] <tasslehoff> enabling debugfs is a defconfig-thingy?
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  • [09:42:06] <Kmus> Morning all
  • [09:42:31] <hitlin37> i needed this libavutil,should i go for ffmpeg dev package
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  • [09:45:12] <flowers_sathish> hi
  • [09:45:56] <flowers_sathish> I have compiled for qt for beagle board. when i run a example I have got error " QScreenLinuxFb::connect: No such file or directory"
  • [09:46:12] <flowers_sathish> can you please help me
  • [09:46:21] <koen> why not try the prebuilt angstrom qt stuff?
  • [09:46:22] <koen> that works
  • [09:47:00] <hitlin37> how do i get libavutil in my /usr/include,i already hav ffmpeg
  • [09:47:21] <flowers_sathish> Does we have angstrom build with pyside
  • [09:48:46] <flowers_sathish> I have got this error: QScreenLinuxFb::connect: No such file or directory Error opening framebuffer device /dev/fb0
  • [09:50:40] <rsv> does power off unmount the file systems
  • [09:50:49] <rsv> i mean reboot -p
  • [09:52:39] <koen> hitlin37: opkg install libavutil-dev ffmpeg-dev
  • [09:53:22] <flowers_sathish> Thanks
  • [09:53:48] <hitlin37> thanks
  • [09:53:54] <hitlin37> koen
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  • [09:57:13] <hitlin37> its showing unknown package
  • [09:57:21] <hitlin37> libavutil-dev
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  • [09:59:14] <koen> did you do opkg update?
  • [09:59:57] <hitlin37> no
  • [10:00:06] <hitlin37> im doing it now
  • [10:00:11] <koen> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=libavutil-dev
  • [10:00:55] <hitlin37> opkg update is followed by opkg upgrade?
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  • [10:02:30] <_koen_> opkg update is enough
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  • [10:11:12] <tasslehoff> is it just a matter of enabling "MMC Debugging" in menuconfig to get the tools to find out the mode my sdcard used in?
  • [10:11:22] <ant_work> koen: is udev-compat already in Narcissus builds?
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  • [10:16:54] <koen> ant_work: no, since the the current recipe sucks
  • [10:17:09] <ant_work> ok, that explains boot failure then
  • [10:17:15] <ant_work> pheew
  • [10:17:46] <koen> ant_work: the compat patch needs to always get applied
  • [10:18:00] <koen> if it's based on my patch, it has a check, so it's harmless for other machines
  • [10:18:13] <koen> but for some reason you and utx don't want things to work
  • [10:18:19] <ant_work> hm?
  • [10:18:37] <ant_work> I thought you discussed with him
  • [10:18:47] <ant_work> before commit
  • [10:19:10] <ant_work> btw the overrides are ugly
  • [10:19:38] <ant_work> we could create a udev-legacy recipe and live with it, as we did once with uboot-zaurus
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  • [10:38:44] <rbarraud> yayy -- i can haz a booting Beagle (but a b0rked kernel from the looks - more looking @ that tomorrow :) )
  • [10:39:03] <rbarraud> booting borrowed Beagle that is :)
  • [10:39:45] <rbarraud> goodnight from New Zealand :)
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  • [11:58:02] <Kuby> hi
  • [11:58:07] <Kuby> I have a question regarding how to add libraries to an existing iUniversal in TI's XDAIS framework ?
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  • [12:01:22] <Kuby> I am trying to integrate TI's JPEG decoder along with my iuniversal program. I add codec by saying "requires ti.sdo.codec.jpegdec" in the package.xdc.. is this sufficient ?
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  • [12:02:53] <_av500_> Kuby: download the free codec pack from ti, there you will see examples of servers that integrate several codecs
  • [12:03:58] <Kuby> will do that now .. thanks _av500_
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  • [13:29:09] <jamuraa> arg
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  • [13:38:30] <koen> so dhns screws up again
  • [13:38:40] <koen> no eeprom to id his expansionboard
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  • [13:39:09] <koen> guess that saved him $0.50 in the bom
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  • [13:40:06] <jamuraa> that's like halfway to a coke
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  • [13:42:07] <_av500_> dnhs?
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  • [13:47:35] <ynezz> openmoko-beagle hybrid
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  • [13:50:03] <koen> brokenmoko hybrid
  • [13:50:42] <ynezz> it doesn't work?
  • [13:51:09] <koen> I suspect not
  • [13:51:22] <koen> and if it does, you won't get any support
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  • [13:51:45] <koen> dhns is stuck 15 years ago when it comes to software
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  • [14:07:01] <marcompile> koen, what kernel repo do you use? http://git.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git ?
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  • [14:11:17] <kunguz> When I plug anything to my beagleboard, I keep seeing "hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2" error in my dmesg output
  • [14:11:41] <kunguz> Any idea why not the usb device is not recognized?
  • [14:11:51] <marcompile> what kernel?
  • [14:12:14] <kunguz> marcompile: angstorm kernel 2.6.32
  • [14:12:19] <marcompile> use this http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/~koen/uImage-2.6.32-r86%2Bgitra6bad4464f985fdd3bed72e1b82dcbfc004d7869-beagleboard.multi-config-cpuidle-gether.bin
  • [14:12:22] <ynezz> koen: it seems like a nice piece of hardware, althought I would preffer something simple - LCD only without the IMU stuff and cheaper
  • [14:12:45] <kunguz> marcompile: so I will replace this with my uImage.bin?
  • [14:13:00] <marcompile> you using sd card?
  • [14:13:12] <marcompile> so you replace your UIMAGE on the boot partition with this
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  • [14:13:14] <kunguz> marcompile: yes
  • [14:13:26] <jamuraa> should I be using the cpuidle-gether versions of the uImages? I've been just using the uImage-beagleboard versions
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  • [14:13:28] <kunguz> marcompile: ok, I am going to try now
  • [14:13:28] <ynezz> koen: and I don't care if they prefer Debian over OE/Angstrom as long as there's source code available somewhere
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  • [14:19:40] <koen> marcompile: I use OE to build the kernel :)
  • [14:20:53] <kunguz> marcompile: still the same, here is my dmesg | tail: http://pastebin.com/Y6LFyrcD
  • [14:23:33] <marcompile> koen, can you please tell me how do I use oe to compile the r86 kernel?
  • [14:24:01] <marcompile> kunguz, what device is this? usb 2.0 or 1.1?
  • [14:24:15] <marcompile> kunguz, that USB is only 2.0
  • [14:24:24] <kunguz> marcompile: I believe it is 1.1, it is a simple optical mouse
  • [14:24:26] <marcompile> no support for 1.x devices. you should use a hub
  • [14:24:34] <marcompile> do you have a usb hub/
  • [14:24:39] <marcompile> to connect there?
  • [14:24:40] <kunguz> marcompile: yes Ido
  • [14:24:50] <kunguz> marcompile: ok hold on a sec
  • [14:25:48] <kunguz> marcompile: the hub I have now is a simple divider, so it does not feed each port with extra power. It just divides it into 4, will that make a problem?
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  • [14:26:40] <koen> marcompile: use http://gitorious.org/angstrom/angstrom-setup-scripts then do 'bitbake virtual/kernel'
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  • [14:26:53] <kunguz> marcompile: after connecting the hub, I had the same problem also
  • [14:27:29] <marcompile> kunguz, does it detect the hub?
  • [14:27:31] <jamuraa> when connecting the hub do you get the same error?
  • [14:27:47] <kunguz> jamuraa: yes, I do
  • [14:27:57] <marcompile> kunguz, My hub has external power but I can use without that.. Its just a 2.0 hub
  • [14:28:28] <kunguz> marcompile: so how do I connect a keyboard to my beagleboard?
  • [14:28:34] <jamuraa> I've had some problems with some hubs, but other hubs worked. It sounded similar to your problem
  • [14:28:34] <kunguz> marcompile: or a mouse
  • [14:28:47] <jamuraa> you can connect the kbd/mouse through the hub
  • [14:29:05] <marcompile> kunguz, I have a USB 2.0 hub, I connect my 1.1 mouse to the hub and the hub to the beagle
  • [14:29:32] <marcompile> kunguz, do you have a 2.0 device such as a usb drive to test?
  • [14:29:52] <kunguz> marcompile: so I better find a USB 2.0 hub. But I have a feeling that might not solve my problem. Because even if I connect any other device from USB, it gives the same error
  • [14:30:13] <kunguz> marcompile: yes, hold on I am going to plug a USB 2.0 flash drive into my beagleboard
  • [14:31:13] <kunguz> end_request: I/O error, dev mtdblock0, sector 240
  • [14:31:21] <kunguz> uncorrectable error :
  • [14:31:38] <kunguz> but it found it correctly this time, because I can see good dmesg output
  • [14:31:51] <kunguz> but it also gives this error I just pasted 1 line above
  • [14:32:07] <kunguz> Bus 001 Device 014: ID 058f:6387 Alcor Micro Corp. Transcend JetFlash Flash e
  • [14:32:27] <kunguz> So if I have a USB 2.0 hub, then I should be able to connect keyboard and mouse I believe
  • [14:32:53] <kunguz> marcompile: jamuraa: thank you both
  • [14:33:20] <marcompile> kunguz, some usb 2.0 hub are only 2.0
  • [14:33:27] <marcompile> they don't support 1.1
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  • [14:33:57] <kunguz> marcompile: hmmm, I should check before I buy then
  • [14:34:03] <marcompile> kunguz, also, I think you can ignore that I/O error for now
  • [14:34:36] <marcompile> kunguz, I bought the most expensive usb hub I could find. I payed about 5 dollars
  • [14:35:17] <marcompile> and it has no brand lol
  • [14:35:40] <kunguz> I see
  • [14:35:42] <kunguz> I do not own a HDMI screen, any suggestions on how to connect beagle to VGA screen?
  • [14:35:46] <mru> the best usb hub I have is bizarrely enough a d-link
  • [14:36:00] <mru> kunguz: purchace a dvi/hdmi monitor
  • [14:36:07] <mru> s/c/s/
  • [14:36:13] <koen> does that try to contact servers run by bsd dudes as well?
  • [14:36:40] <mru> koen: the usb hub?
  • [14:36:52] <kunguz> mru: any other way around to connect it to VGA? I believe it would be quiet costy for me to buy such a HDMI monitor :(
  • [14:37:04] <mru> kunguz: cheaper than buying a converter
  • [14:37:12] <kunguz> mru: I see
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  • [14:37:19] <kunguz> One dummy question then
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  • [14:37:49] <mru> monitors can be had for $100 or so
  • [14:38:09] <kunguz> There is a S-Video output on beagleboard, is it possible to acquire s-video screen data from a computer via s-video output on computer?
  • [14:38:39] <marcompile> kunguz, you can connect the s-video to a TV
  • [14:39:12] <kunguz> marcompile: I see, then I should better configure xorg.conf to use s-video
  • [14:39:22] <kunguz> marcompile: thanks
  • [14:40:11] <marcompile> kunguz, also, im not sure if s-video supports 720p modes... only 480i
  • [14:40:26] <mru> s-video is by definition 480i
  • [14:40:41] <marcompile> s-video = sucks-video
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  • [14:41:03] <mru> indeed
  • [14:41:38] <ynezz> for 7" it's ok
  • [14:41:51] <kunguz> I understand, thank you very much guys. I know have a clearer idea on the topic.
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  • [14:48:33] <marcompile> kunguz, yw
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  • [15:50:20] <ben_kludged> anyone here get their beagleboard from special computing in scottsdale arizona?
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  • [15:52:07] <koen> yes, 6 b6 boards
  • [15:52:11] <koen> but that was a while agao
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  • [15:52:36] <ben_kludged> they also sent me a minimal angstrom demo image on sd card and what i gots seems to work
  • [15:54:12] <ben_kludged> on another sd card, i built the angstrom demo from angstrom-distribution.org and cant get that to boot
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  • [15:55:24] <ben_kludged> im wonderin if they setenv something for their demo,,, which needs to be changed for the angstrom-dist demo
  • [15:57:54] <ben_kludged> this is as far as my image gets
  • [15:57:59] <ben_kludged> Texas Instruments X-Loader 1.4.2 (Feb 19 2009 - 12:01:24)
  • [15:57:59] <ben_kludged> Reading boot sector
  • [15:57:59] <ben_kludged> Loading u-boot.bin from mmc
  • [15:57:59] <ben_kludged> U-Boot 2010.03 (Jul 24 2010 - 13:35:32)
  • [15:57:59] <ben_kludged> OMAP3530-GP ES3.1, CPU-OPP2, L3-165MHz, Max clock-720Mhz
  • [15:58:00] <ben_kludged> OMAP3 Beagle board + LPDDR/NAND
  • [15:58:04] <ben_kludged> I2C: ready
  • [15:58:38] <Kmus> atleast your I2C is fine
  • [15:58:51] <ben_kludged> well ,,, it's ready
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  • [16:05:51] <emeb> ben_kludged: u-boot hanging at I2C: ready is an indication that the MLO on NAND is out of date.
  • [16:06:23] <mru> "Feb 19 2009" also indicates it's a bit old
  • [16:06:43] <emeb> well, yeah there's that too.
  • [16:08:22] <emeb> but specifically a mismatch between MLO on NAND and u-boot on SD which causes the hang.
  • [16:08:52] <emeb> so either 1) hold USER button @ boot to run MLO from SD, or 2) reflash new MLO to NAND
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  • [16:19:24] <ben_kludged> i held the user button down and still has problems.....
  • [16:19:28] <ben_kludged> ** Unable to read "ramdisk.gz" from mmc 1:1 **
  • [16:19:29] <ben_kludged> Booting from mmc ...
  • [16:19:29] <ben_kludged> ## Booting kernel from Legacy Image at 80200000 ...
  • [16:19:29] <ben_kludged> Image Name: Angstrom/2.6.32/beagleboard
  • [16:19:29] <ben_kludged> Image Type: ARM Linux Kernel Image (uncompressed)
  • [16:19:29] <ben_kludged> Data Size: 3194136 Bytes = 3 MB
  • [16:19:31] <ben_kludged> Load Address: 80008000
  • [16:19:33] <ben_kludged> Entry Point: 80008000
  • [16:19:35] <ben_kludged> Verifying Checksum ... Bad Data CRC
  • [16:19:39] <ben_kludged> ERROR: can't get kernel image!
  • [16:20:44] <ben_kludged> i tried several scenerios to get images on sdcard
  • [16:21:04] <ben_kludged> what images do i d/l from angstrom-dist.org?
  • [16:22:02] <ben_kludged> this is what i have
  • [16:22:07] <ben_kludged> Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2010.3-beagleboard.rootfs.tar.bz2
  • [16:22:07] <ben_kludged> config-2.6.32-r70+gitr7b8926aa626991fa087b00f6bbc1fb6b0e8269b0-beagleboard.config
  • [16:22:07] <ben_kludged> MLO
  • [16:22:07] <ben_kludged> MLO-beagleboard-1.44+r15+gitr1c9276af4d6a5b7014a7630a1abeddf3b3177563-r15
  • [16:22:07] <ben_kludged> modules-2.6.32-r72+gitrdc94d8db03fc6c5918960ebf069cfc81e5998665-beagleboard.tgz
  • [16:22:08] <ben_kludged> modules.tgz
  • [16:22:10] <ben_kludged> u-boot-beagleboard-2010.03+r59+gitrca6e1c136ddb720c3bb2cc043b99f7f06bc46c55-r59.bin
  • [16:22:12] <ben_kludged> u-boot.bin
  • [16:22:14] <ben_kludged> uImage
  • [16:22:16] <ben_kludged> uImage-2.6.32-r86+gitra6bad4464f985fdd3bed72e1b82dcbfc004d7869-beagleboard.bin
  • [16:22:38] <koen> there are instructions at the bottom of http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [16:22:43] <koen> and pastebin.com
  • [16:24:16] <emeb> koen: nice idea to put all the FAQs on that page.
  • [16:28:00] <ben_kludged> i followed the instrs at the bottom 2. Copy MLO and u-boot.bin from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ to the first partition
  • [16:29:26] <ben_kludged> do i rename MLO-beagleboard* to MLO and uImage-2.6* to uImage?
  • [16:29:58] <emeb> yes
  • [16:30:08] <emeb> but do it before copying to the boot partition.
  • [16:31:25] <jamuraa> and make sure to have a completely empty boot partition (just formatted) before copying it
  • [16:31:35] <emeb> +1
  • [16:31:47] <emeb> MLO 1st!
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  • [16:33:21] <ben_kludged> i will have to reformat my /dev/sdb1 or can i just delete those files and then copy the new files there?
  • [16:33:44] <ben_kludged> i will just copy first
  • [16:33:46] <ben_kludged> now
  • [16:33:49] <emeb> (09:31:25 AM) jamuraa: and make sure to have a completely empty boot partition (just formatted) before copying it
  • [16:34:44] <ben_kludged> ok i will reformat that puppy
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  • [16:36:46] <ben_kludged> now step 4 of the instrs....4. Find the uImage-2.6.*.bin (kernel) file in /boot of the rootfs and copy the file to the boot partition as uImage.bin. ## do i use this one from the rootfs /boot dir or the one from the d/l site?
  • [16:37:08] <emeb> usually either will work
  • [16:37:50] <emeb> but it's best to use the one in the root partition because it's matched with the driver modules in the rootfs
  • [16:39:05] <ben_kludged> i guess me just dont have the proper scenerio workin just yet... i tried most everyway,, me thinks but have not reformatted the vfat partition,,, always rm the files and cp the new ones
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  • [16:41:08] <ben_kludged> where does the config-2.6.32-r70+gitr7b8926aa626991fa087b00f6bbc1fb6b0e8269b0-beagleboard.config go?
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  • [16:45:19] <ben_kludged> and the commands for booting from the sd card
  • [16:45:23] <ben_kludged> # setenv bootargs 'console=ttyS2,115200n8 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootwait'
  • [16:45:23] <ben_kludged> # setenv bootcmd 'mmc init;fatload mmc 0 80300000 uImage;bootm 80300000'
  • [16:46:33] <ben_kludged> how do i read the omap vars to see what values are there , i may need to save those so i can boot my special computer angstrom demo they have set in there for me
  • [16:48:31] <jamuraa> those commands go at the u-boot prompt
  • [16:48:43] <jamuraa> you can see the env vars by doing printenv
  • [16:49:18] <ben_kludged> OMAP3 beagleboard.org # this is the u-boot prompt?
  • [16:49:21] <jamuraa> (you get to u-boot by pressing a key before autoboot finishes, or having the autoboot fail)
  • [16:49:24] <jamuraa> yes
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  • [16:49:46] <jamuraa> you con't need to put the config-* anywhere, it's just a reference for what features are compiled into the kenrel
  • [16:49:53] <jamuraa> s/kenrel/kernel/
  • [16:50:02] <koen> emeb: Richard Andrews did the work for compiling the faq
  • [16:50:19] <koen> oh dear
  • [16:50:36] <koen> the dreaded "break everything" wiki advice about bootargs
  • [16:50:50] <koen> nand erase 260000 20000
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  • [16:51:24] <jamuraa> yea actually the default nand is awesome, when paired with that boot.cmd/boot.scr
  • [16:51:45] <mru> a default _blank_ nand would be awesome
  • [16:51:46] <koen> exactly
  • [16:51:56] <mru> xm ftw
  • [16:52:13] <jamuraa> I had to modify that one you gave me yesterday koen, because u-boot was complaining about some '=' command - I just remade the image using the branch for my C4
  • [16:52:38] <ben_kludged> printenv -> bootcmd=if mmc init ${mmcdev}; then if userbutton; then setenv bootscr user.scr;if run loadbootscript; then run bootscript; else if run loaduimage; then if run loadramdisk; then run ramboot; else run mmcboot; fi; fi; fi; else setenv bootscr boot.scr; if run loadbootscript; then run bootscript; else if run loaduimage; then run mmcboot; else run nandboot; fi; fi; fi; else run nandboot; fi
  • [16:53:04] <jamuraa> yes that one is good
  • [16:53:31] <koen> jamuraa: jkridner1 found out there's a bug somewhere in the default env
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  • [16:53:54] <ben_kludged> so i dont need to enter
  • [16:53:57] <ben_kludged> # setenv bootargs 'console=ttyS2,115200n8 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootwait'
  • [16:53:57] <ben_kludged> # setenv bootcmd 'mmc init;fatload mmc 0 80300000 uImage;bootm 80300000'
  • [16:54:06] <koen> no, the defaults are a lot better
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  • [16:54:17] <jamuraa> ben_kludged: no you don't, the defaults do that and are also more awesome
  • [16:55:16] <ben_kludged> allrightythen i will leave the env alone and reformat vfat partition and copy the files there in the appropriate order then boot the puppy
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  • [16:57:07] <ben_kludged> where does the config-2.6.32-r70+gitr7b8926aa626991fa087b00f6bbc1fb6b0e8269b0-beagleboard.config from angstrom-dist go?
  • [16:57:51] <ben_kludged> or is it in the angstrom..rootfs.bz2 file?
  • [16:58:07] <ben_kludged> and already in the rite place
  • [16:59:26] <marcompile> its on OE_HOME/tmp/deploy/glibc/beagleboard/images
  • [17:00:00] <ben_kludged> nevermind about the config... file ,, i missed your answer
  • [17:00:04] <ben_kludged> thanks
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  • [17:25:04] <ben_kludged> i reformatted the vfat and copied the files there in proper order and this is what i get
  • [17:25:09] <ben_kludged> Texas Instruments X-Loader 1.4.2 (Feb 19 2009 - 12:01:24)
  • [17:25:09] <ben_kludged> Reading boot sector
  • [17:25:09] <ben_kludged> Loading u-boot.bin from mmc
  • [17:25:09] <ben_kludged> U-Boot 2010.03 (Jul 24 2010 - 13:35:32)
  • [17:25:09] <ben_kludged> OMAP3530-GP ES3.1, CPU-OPP2, L3-165MHz, Max clock-720Mhz
  • [17:25:10] <ben_kludged> OMAP3 Beagle board + LPDDR/NAND
  • [17:25:14] <ben_kludged> I2C: ready
  • [17:26:43] <koen> that means it's loading MLO from nand
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  • [17:27:14] <koen> ben_kludged: try using http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/OE/uboot-flash.cmd.scr as boot.scr and hold down the user button while applying power
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  • [17:39:34] <ben_kludged> i gots that uboot flash script.. when i did a cat on it several characters in the beginning seemed to be garbled.....
  • [17:40:02] <koen> correct
  • [17:40:05] <koen> binary header
  • [17:41:26] <ben_kludged> how do i use it as boot.scr?
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  • [17:42:19] <jamuraa> ben_kludged: put it on the boot partition as boot.scr
  • [17:42:22] <jamuraa> that's all
  • [17:42:27] <ben_kludged> at the OMAP3 beagleboard.org # prompt
  • [17:42:29] <ben_kludged> ah
  • [17:42:34] <ben_kludged> gotcha
  • [17:42:39] <jamuraa> also hold the user button when booting
  • [17:43:08] <ben_kludged> yes, lemme get sd from bb and into ubuntu....and copy
  • [17:43:48] <jamuraa> so let's say I'm messing with gstramer, and I have a defunct gst-launch process that's preventing me from using the video device, is there any way to get rid of that without rebooting?
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  • [17:51:13] <ben_kludged> The user button is currently PRESSED.
  • [17:51:13] <ben_kludged> reading user.scr
  • [17:51:13] <ben_kludged> ** Unable to read "user.scr" from mmc 1:1 **
  • [17:51:13] <ben_kludged> r
  • [17:51:30] <ben_kludged> should this be called user.scr?
  • [17:52:04] <ben_kludged> ** Unable to read "user.scr" from mmc 1:1 **
  • [17:52:05] <ben_kludged> reading uImage
  • [17:52:05] <ben_kludged> 1884160 bytes read
  • [17:52:05] <ben_kludged> reading ramdisk.gz
  • [17:52:05] <ben_kludged> ** Unable to read "ramdisk.gz" from mmc 1:1 **
  • [17:52:05] <ben_kludged> Booting from mmc ...
  • [17:52:07] <ben_kludged> ## Booting kernel from Legacy Image at 80200000 ...
  • [17:52:09] <ben_kludged> Image Name: Angstrom/2.6.32/beagleboard
  • [17:52:11] <ben_kludged> Image Type: ARM Linux Kernel Image (uncompressed)
  • [17:52:13] <ben_kludged> Data Size: 3194136 Bytes = 3 MB
  • [17:52:15] <ben_kludged> Load Address: 80008000
  • [17:52:17] <ben_kludged> Entry Point: 80008000
  • [17:52:19] <ben_kludged> Verifying Checksum ... Bad Data CRC
  • [17:52:21] <ben_kludged> ERROR: can't get kernel image!
  • [17:52:25] <ben_kludged> OMAP3 beagleboard.org #
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  • [17:57:36] <koen> ah right, use the flash script as user.scr
  • [17:57:38] <koen> sorry about that
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  • [17:59:34] <ben_kludged> now this will reflash ,,, now when i want to use my special computing angstrom demo, will it boot after i flash this in?
  • [17:59:54] <koen> yes
  • [18:00:01] <koen> in only flashes mlo and uboot
  • [18:00:03] <ben_kludged> allrightythen
  • [18:00:13] * koen created the specialcomp demo :)
  • [18:00:28] <ben_kludged> dude,,, youbedaman
  • [18:06:22] <ben_kludged> NAND erase: device 0 offset 0x80000, size 0x160000
  • [18:06:24] <ben_kludged> Erasing at 0x1c0000 -- 100% complete.
  • [18:06:24] <ben_kludged> OK
  • [18:06:24] <ben_kludged> NAND write: device 0 offset 0x80000, size 0x160000
  • [18:06:24] <ben_kludged> 1441792 bytes written: OK
  • [18:06:24] <ben_kludged> OMAP3 beagleboard.org #
  • [18:06:46] <ben_kludged> remove the user.scr and boot?
  • [18:06:48] <koen> then remove the .scr files
  • [18:06:50] <koen> yes :)
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  • [18:09:04] <ben_kludged> all this removing power cord,,, mountin sd in buntu,, muckin around,,, safely remove device,, power cord,, user button,,,, me gonna need some beers soon
  • [18:09:24] <koen> beers help
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  • [18:09:39] <ben_kludged> thatswhatimtalkinbout
  • [18:12:36] <ben_kludged> its been 15 or more years since i been doin this stuff,,,, remove e2prom ,,, ultra violet lite,,,, programmer,,, emulate ice box ,,, z80 and hitachi h8510 stuffs
  • [18:13:14] <ben_kludged> binary headers in text files,,, man that brings back memories
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  • [18:15:20] <koen> it's been >10 years since I did z80
  • [18:15:29] <koen> on TI calculators funnily enough
  • [18:15:57] * prpplague has fond memories of his TS-1000
  • [18:16:31] <prpplague> jkridner1: ping
  • [18:17:17] <ben_kludged> i did electronic shelf labels ,,, z80 with radio to talk to price database,, then h8510 and proxim spread spectrum to replace z80
  • [18:18:09] <ben_kludged> then fcc took our freqs away in 99 but i was gone by then
  • [18:19:05] <ben_kludged> ok i am bootin the puppy now with no user button
  • [18:20:21] <ben_kludged> ** Unable to read "boot.scr" from mmc 1:1 **
  • [18:20:22] <ben_kludged> reading uImage
  • [18:20:22] <ben_kludged> 1884160 bytes read
  • [18:20:22] <ben_kludged> Booting from mmc ...
  • [18:20:22] <ben_kludged> ## Booting kernel from Legacy Image at 80200000 ...
  • [18:20:23] <ben_kludged> Image Name: Angstrom/2.6.32/beagleboard
  • [18:20:24] <ben_kludged> Image Type: ARM Linux Kernel Image (uncompressed)
  • [18:20:26] <ben_kludged> Data Size: 3194136 Bytes = 3 MB
  • [18:20:28] <ben_kludged> Load Address: 80008000
  • [18:20:33] <ben_kludged> Entry Point: 80008000
  • [18:20:34] <ben_kludged> Verifying Checksum ... Bad Data CRC
  • [18:20:37] <ben_kludged> ERROR: can't get kernel image!
  • [18:20:38] <ben_kludged> OMAP3 beagleboard.org #
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  • [18:24:21] <ben_kludged> i bought a new gadget on the market in 72 when i started college,,, ti sr12
  • [18:26:55] <ben_kludged> got my first puter in 80, sinclair z80 1k ram 1k rom with basic,,, i learnt basic and hexidecimal when i added more ram to that puppy
  • [18:28:01] <ben_kludged> anyway, this puppy thang is makin me crazy
  • [18:31:16] <ben_kludged> at least my special comp angstrom demo haint broke
  • [18:31:20] <ben_kludged> The Angstrom Distribution beagleboard ttyS2
  • [18:31:21] <ben_kludged> Angstrom 2009.X-test-20090615 beagleboard ttyS2
  • [18:31:21] <ben_kludged> beagleboard login:
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  • [18:39:59] <emeb> hmmm - how'd that arabic spam get on the ml?
  • [18:40:30] <koen> I would have thought that spam wasn't allowed in most of the arabic regions
  • [18:40:34] <koen> being pork and all
  • [18:40:48] <koen> must be those darn christians in that region
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  • [18:41:14] <bkero> Meh, christians, muslims, same thing.
  • [18:42:57] <emeb> folks
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  • [18:43:57] <jkridner1> prpplague: pong
  • [18:46:37] <prpplague> anyone using distcc on the beagle?
  • [18:47:16] <koen> I was using it
  • [18:47:26] <koen> still faster to just crosscompile
  • [18:48:09] <koen> although you can cheat by having distcc using a cross toolchain
  • [18:48:33] <koen> so things like configure scripts run on the beagle, but compilation is done on a beefier machine
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  • [18:53:54] <prpplague> koen: ahh interesting
  • [18:54:44] <prpplague> koen: we've been running some tests with distcc, but not seeing any improvement in compile times
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  • [18:55:48] <DanaG> Say, have/do any of you run Android on a beagle?
  • [18:56:06] <DanaG> I want to know if the Flash for Android works with it.
  • [18:57:11] <koen> prpplague: iirc there was some new feature were you can runn the preprocessor remotely as well
  • [18:57:15] <koen> pump?
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  • [18:57:27] <koen> DanaG: if it does, it's dog slow
  • [18:57:50] <koen> DanaG: the "optimized" version for omap3 is in the process of being made public AIUI
  • [18:58:10] <koen> I'm a bit fuzzy on the sgx/dsp details for that version of flash
  • [18:58:12] <DanaG> The thing I intend to use it for is mostly a script with static text.
  • [18:58:33] <DanaG> Or rather, it's somebody else's project, but it doesn't work on gnash or lightspark.
  • [18:58:51] <koen> well, judging from flashlite, text kills it
  • [18:59:11] <koen> I say a simple menu cripply performance
  • [18:59:24] <koen> s/y/e/
  • [18:59:38] <DanaG> I'll put the actual thing in dropbox and link to it.
  • [18:59:56] <DanaG> https://dl.dropbox.com/s/7bd7ej79pt89sw6/Energy%20of%20Motion.swf?dl
  • [19:00:17] <DanaG> It expects a keypad that has "enter" be the "a" key.
  • [19:00:23] * koen stays away from flash till an actual customer punts the problems to my dept
  • [19:00:54] <DanaG> With the open-source ones, it just loops madly between the pages.
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  • [19:02:26] <koen> for all the smack talk coming from adobe they don't do a lot of work to make it run decently on arm
  • [19:02:42] <koen> no work, they put that burden on the silicon vendors
  • [19:02:54] <koen> which hire some 3rd parties
  • [19:03:20] <koen> which put a few hundred monkeys behind typewriters
  • [19:05:08] <DanaG> As far as I'm concerned, the stuff is vaporware for now.
  • [19:05:16] <DanaG> Or wait...
  • [19:05:25] <DanaG> Or it was last time I seriously looked.
  • [19:05:43] <koen> I can give you more details, but then I'd have to kill you
  • [19:05:44] <DanaG> I hope Canonical can pressure Adobe to make a non-Android ARM flash.
  • [19:05:49] <koen> and the rest of the channel
  • [19:05:58] <koen> DanaG: pressure with what exactly?
  • [19:06:07] <DanaG> Beats me. =??
  • [19:06:10] <janneg> koen: and use then OCR software from the last century to put it into the compiler?
  • [19:06:13] <koen> canonical lacks teh $$$$$
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  • [19:06:46] <koen> and canonical is small fries compared to others
  • [19:06:50] <DanaG> ah.
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  • [19:12:17] <DanaG> Oh yeah, having a beagle be a thin-client to an x86 box would also work.
  • [19:12:29] <DanaG> I just can't find any tutorials of how to do that.
  • [19:12:53] <koen> vnc, rfb?
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  • [19:17:34] <mmkassem> Hello, can I get the beagleboard to boot for the first time without a serial/terminal connection?
  • [19:18:04] <koen> sure
  • [19:18:11] <mru> are you generally a lucky prson?
  • [19:19:36] <mmkassem> I think so, I followed the elinux.org/Be..Begineers without the terminal sections but I either get a orange screen or a black/no signal on the DVI. My board is C4
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  • [19:20:36] <emeb> not as luck as needed to boot w/o serial
  • [19:20:45] <emeb> lucky
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  • [19:25:46] <mmkassem> Do I need the ramdisk? or MLO, u-boot and uImage are enough for a C4?
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  • [19:27:09] <DanaG> ah, so is a thin-client just an Ubuntu minimal install with extra ltsp packages?
  • [19:31:08] <koen> jkridner1: I'll update the uboot on the angstrom demo site tomorrow
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  • [19:51:14] <jkridner1> the build fails.
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  • [19:51:53] <jkridner1> says "no such file".
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  • [19:52:54] <jkridner1> a case error in the patch. :(
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  • [19:55:41] <jkridner1> thanks for applying the patches so quickly though. it helps me test the production script to pull it from the main repo.
  • [19:56:25] <jkridner1> doh! I forgot to update the PR, but it might not matter since the previous one wouldn't build for BeagleBoard...
  • [19:56:33] <jkridner1> shall I update the PR and resubmit?
  • [19:57:08] <koen> the uboot scripts?
  • [19:57:25] <jkridner1> no, the u-boot.
  • [19:57:47] <koen> you did bump PR for uboot
  • [19:57:48] <jkridner1> In the u-boot_git.bb, I had a typo (Beagleboard vs. BeagleBoard).
  • [19:58:00] <jkridner1> In my quick fix just now, I didn't pump the PR.
  • [19:58:32] <koen> I can fix that manually
  • [19:58:39] <jkridner1> k.
  • [20:00:15] <koen> funny how much room there's left in the trolly when you aren't bringing electronics to your holiday
  • [20:00:24] <koen> only one phone charger
  • [20:00:28] <jkridner1> if you grab the linux kernel patch update, I can test it in the same run.
  • [20:00:31] <jkridner1> koen: nice.
  • [20:00:42] <jkridner1> you don't leave until the weekend though, right?
  • [20:00:48] <buZz> koen: ha, i'm packing aswell :D : http://www.flickr.com/photos/complete_bastiaan/4864171902/
  • [20:01:01] <buZz> i havent packed anything but electronics up to now :)
  • [20:01:36] <koen> jkridner1: saturday at 7:51
  • [20:01:52] <jkridner1> buZz: "outdoor" and "computer" in the same sentence. sounds interesting.
  • [20:01:59] <koen> buZz: say hi to Wim from kd85 at etho
  • [20:02:06] <buZz> jkridner1: we do it a lot ;)
  • [20:02:14] <buZz> koen: will do :)
  • [20:02:17] <koen> buZz: he will most likely be doing a makerbot workshop
  • [20:02:32] <buZz> ah, i want to print an extruder on his hardware then
  • [20:02:36] <buZz> :P
  • [20:04:12] <jkridner1> koen: any hesitation to apply the kernel patch?
  • [20:04:13] <koen> I want a spokepov now
  • [20:04:29] <buZz> yeah they are cool
  • [20:04:36] <buZz> i want more spokepovs :)
  • [20:04:40] <buZz> like, 3 per wheel
  • [20:05:01] <buZz> the effect is quite hard to get, when not cycling veryveryvery fast
  • [20:06:36] <koen> jkridner1: you forgot to bump MACHINE_KERNEL_PR in conf/machine/include/omap3.inc
  • [20:06:38] <koen> but I can do that manually
  • [20:08:03] <jkridner1> koen: it was more a matter of not understanding the comment or the reasoning behind the approach.
  • [20:08:42] <jkridner1> koen: thanks for the patch appliation!
  • [20:09:02] <koen> approach?
  • [20:09:52] <jkridner1> why MACHINE_KERNEL_PR in an include file that you wouldn't otherwise edit? Why not put it in the file that would change?
  • [20:10:46] <koen> because it's global
  • [20:10:56] <koen> external modules need that info as well
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  • [20:11:08] <koen> and they can't peek at values from other recipes, only global ones
  • [20:11:56] <koen> now dsplink and friends get rebuilt as well
  • [20:12:12] <koen> since they derive their PR from MACHINE_KERNEL_PR as well
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  • [20:35:49] <marcompile> koen, so I did use your script and rebuild everything on oe and it finally built de r86 kernel
  • [20:36:06] <marcompile> I need to figure out how to upgrade my other oe dev tree
  • [20:39:33] <marcompile> well, see you tomorrow
  • [20:39:34] <marcompile> thanks for all
  • [20:39:36] <marcompile> and good nite
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  • [20:51:09] <jkridner1> koen: k. btw, do you know why a bunch of "arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-objcopy:/home/ubuntu/angstrom-setup-scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_2008_1/work/beagleboard-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/linux-omap-psp-2.6.32-r87+git.../package/kernel/scripts/bin2c: File format not recognized" errors?
  • [20:51:42] <jkridner1> I get a bunch of 'runstrip' errors as well.
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  • [20:52:34] <koen> jkridner1: those are host binaries and we copy the complete kernel tree
  • [20:52:47] <koen> so it tries to run target strip on those as well
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  • [21:47:28] <mmkassem> emeb: now it boots, normal.scr was required
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  • [22:00:10] <shura> hey do you know if exist someone openoffice for angstrom?
  • [22:00:38] <buZz> try #angstrom
  • [22:01:00] <shura> mmmmm
  • [22:01:21] <shura> I dont understand
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  • [22:02:06] <buZz> #angstrom is the irc channel about angstrom linux
  • [22:02:18] <buZz> #beagle is the irc channel about the beagleboard
  • [22:02:31] <shura> I know angstrom have abiword and genumeric spreadsheet
  • [22:02:33] <buZz> in #angstrom there are people that know and use angstrom linux a lot
  • [22:02:46] <buZz> in #beagle there are people that know and use the beagleboard a lot
  • [22:02:56] <buZz> you are now in #beagle
  • [22:03:06] <shura> tes
  • [22:03:09] <shura> yes
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  • [22:11:14] <shura> I dont Know if exist a type openoffice for angstrom
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  • [22:12:12] <shura> i know tha angstrom has a type word an excel
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  • [22:12:55] <shura> time
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  • [22:13:50] <shura> sorry
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  • [22:13:59] <shura> i return
  • [22:15:12] <shura> my question was if exist a openoffice typr for angstrom
  • [22:15:33] <davidc__> hey - I'm working on a design for a commercial beagleboard robotics board. Anyone have any feature requests / suggestions?
  • [22:15:59] <shura> I dont
  • [22:16:58] <davidc__> I'm currently planning 16 servo driver channels, 16 heavily protected digital input channels, 16 digital outputs, 8 analog inputs, 2 DC Motor control channels and possibly 4 high current switched outputs [for solenoids / etc]
  • [22:17:00] <Ceriand|work> shura: goto #angstrom and ask there
  • [22:17:21] <davidc__> Anyhow, if anyone is interested in this kind of product + wants to see a specific feature, let me know!
  • [22:17:34] <buZz> davidc__: i2c/spi bus with level shifters?
  • [22:17:47] <davidc__> buZz: yup, I've got 2 channels of each [forgot to mention it]
  • [22:18:03] <buZz> ah ok :) nice
  • [22:18:06] <davidc__> All that is hanging off an FPGA which is connected to the beagle via a single high-speed SPI channel
  • [22:18:22] <davidc__> I plan to write a kernel driver to expose it all via the standard bus interfaces under linux
  • [22:18:29] <davidc__> and all the GPIOS / servos / etc via /sys
  • [22:18:58] <davidc__> Anyhow - how much interest is there in this kinda thing? I'd hate to get 100pcs made and never sell a one ;)
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  • [22:19:47] <davidc__> buZz: actually, to clarify the SPI is actually just one SPI bus, with 4 chip selects
  • [22:19:49] <buZz> well, not me, if i would build a robot it would go against my principle to use premade robot platforms :D
  • [22:20:01] <buZz> davidc__: yeah, that works of course ;)
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  • [22:20:24] <davidc__> buZz: hah, and therein lies my problem. Its a fun design, but will anyone else want to use it :P
  • [22:20:47] <buZz> good question ;)
  • [22:21:03] <buZz> maybe you could find a pcb shop that will print one-per-order ? :)
  • [22:21:49] <davidc__> buZz: oh no; thats not the problem; I'm just unabashedly trying to find products that I can sell :P
  • [22:21:58] <buZz> hahaha
  • [22:21:59] <davidc__> buZz: The design [or at least, most of it] will be open source
  • [22:22:03] <buZz> try sperm and blood ;)
  • [22:22:13] <davidc__> buZz: you can solder those?
  • [22:22:22] <buZz> if you eat a lot of metal :D
  • [22:22:42] <shura> do you know if exist a type openoffice for angstrom
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  • [22:23:11] <shura> I know that this have a someone type
  • [22:23:30] <shura> but I need more thath angstrom has
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