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  • [00:33:33] <emeb> well crap: GPIO140-142 on the expansion header appear to be dedicated to UART2 and there's apparently no way to disable this.
  • [00:34:44] <emeb> I've turned it off in u-boot as well as in board-omap3beagle.c and the UART is still active, so it must be turned on elsewhere, overriding the other setup code.
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  • [00:58:49] <djlewis> emeb :) interesting reading ... http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/4981a9811e02078c
  • [00:59:08] <djlewis> wish I could wrap my head around it.
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  • [02:10:43] <djlewis> hmmm, my fs is mounting ro
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  • [02:42:16] <djlewis> yep, daddy needs new SD cards
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  • [02:44:29] <ds2> SD cards are cheap... get a gross or two
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  • [02:52:21] <djlewis> yep, and some micro's for the near future :)
  • [02:52:26] <djlewis> hi ds2
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  • [03:06:00] <emeb|mac> djlewis: thanks for the link to the UART / mux stuff.
  • [03:06:30] <emeb|mac> I'm pretty sure that's not my issue - I've got a C2 board and the latest u-boot/kernels so I think those things have been resolved.
  • [03:07:31] <djlewis> ds2, is a good mux guy :)
  • [03:07:43] <emeb|mac> yep
  • [03:10:11] <emeb|mac> I'm thinking this is more like something to do with power management - the suspend/resume logic in mach-omap2/serial.c looks like it might be tweaking the mux settings, but that happens after the board-omap3beagle.c logic executes, so I have not way to control it.
  • [03:10:28] <emeb|mac> s/not/no/
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  • [03:16:27] <djlewis> gn
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  • [03:18:06] <emeb|mac> gn
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  • [03:24:08] <ds2> eh?
  • [03:24:15] <ds2> I can safely say that is false
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  • [04:09:39] <emeb|mac> ds2: what's false? a) issues resolved, b) you're a good mux guy, c) power mgmt is mucking up pin muxes?
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  • [04:34:22] <ds2> (c)
  • [04:34:29] <ds2> they work fine as a GPIO
  • [04:38:18] <emeb|mac> ds2: not in my kernel
  • [04:39:49] <ds2> emeb|mac: which kernel is this?
  • [04:40:22] <emeb|mac> ds2: This is a 2.6.32 from the unstable Angstrom
  • [04:40:32] <ds2> the PM stuff should be playing with the extra register on the UART and not the GPIO mode selection. It has no reliable way of determining your routing for the uart.
  • [04:40:49] <emeb|mac> OK - not that then
  • [04:41:27] <emeb|mac> Thing is, I'm dumping the pinmux regs in the board init file, then forcing them to the values I want, then re-dumping them and they look fine.
  • [04:41:29] <ds2> the UART can come out of at least 2 different sets of balls
  • [04:41:51] <ds2> why do you believe they got changed away to something else?
  • [04:42:35] <emeb|mac> because when I try to use them with gpio sysfs they don't work, and sending data to UART2 still shows serial data on the pins.
  • [04:43:13] <ds2> okay, fair test
  • [04:43:23] <ds2> how do you know your changes to the pin mux took effect?
  • [04:43:53] <emeb|mac> because I re-read them after changing them, dumping the results with a printk() and the values are correct.
  • [04:44:22] <ds2> okay
  • [04:44:46] <ds2> why not have that code that does the printk also flip the pins around
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  • [04:45:00] <emeb|mac> errr - what?
  • [04:45:12] <ds2> right after the line that does the printk
  • [04:45:18] <ds2> grab the GPIO pin
  • [04:45:21] <ds2> toggle it a few times
  • [04:45:32] <ds2> and drop a LA on that pin before running it
  • [04:46:19] <emeb|mac> Hmmm. That would prove that I can set them up as gpio for a moment before something else changes them back.
  • [04:46:47] <emeb|mac> but I still need to figure out what's changing them and disable it.
  • [04:47:21] <ds2> is this a L-O, L-O/PM, or a PSP kernel?
  • [04:47:41] <emeb|mac> psp I think. what's the diff?
  • [04:47:47] <ds2> Oh
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  • [04:47:55] <ds2> that could be screwed up...
  • [04:48:09] <ds2> use a L-O or a L-O/PM kernel, please
  • [04:48:33] <emeb|mac> I suppose I can read the .config to see fur sure.
  • [04:49:17] <ds2> look in recipe
  • [04:49:25] <emeb|mac> 'k
  • [04:50:23] <emeb|mac> just a moment - that machine is off so I gotta fire it up...
  • [05:00:51] <emeb|mac> yep - it's psp: linux-omap-psp-2.6.32-r75+gitr62.....
  • [05:01:00] <emeb|mac> ds2: what's wrong with psp?
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  • [05:04:40] <DanaG> playstation portable?
  • [05:04:42] <DanaG> =??
  • [05:06:33] <emeb|mac> :) (actually, that's what I saw when I saw that too)
  • [05:07:08] <emeb|mac> s/saw/thought/
  • [05:08:33] <DanaG> I wish they'd make the stupid powervr thing as easy to install as the nvidia binaries.
  • [05:08:49] <DanaG> Because right now (aside from my lack of SD-card space), the install script fails miserably.
  • [05:10:16] <ds2> PSP kernel is not completely peer reviewed
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  • [05:10:57] <ds2> it may have more apparent features but it is likely to be buggier
  • [05:13:56] <emeb|mac> Interesting - I suppose I need to figure out how to use a different kernel then...
  • [05:15:27] <ds2> or I suppose you could import it into git and diff it against L-O
  • [05:15:39] <ds2> but the last time I looked at it, the use entirely different files for stuff
  • [05:16:44] <emeb|mac> yeah - that sounds like a pain
  • [05:17:17] <ds2> it is :/
  • [05:19:08] <ds2> but you might end up with more hair going that route then trying to chase down your problem
  • [05:20:01] <emeb|mac> or I could just build one of the other kernels & try it...
  • [05:20:21] <emeb|mac> easiest might be to revert to my old 2.6.29 card...
  • [05:20:56] <ds2> that'd be my choice
  • [05:22:02] <emeb|mac> sounds like I've got a plan...
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  • [07:20:49] <neure> hey folks
  • [07:21:09] <neure> have you tried other distros than ?ngstr?m?
  • [07:21:14] <neure> what do you think about them?
  • [07:23:26] <_koen_> they all suck
  • [07:23:29] <_koen_> but I'm biased :)
  • [07:23:42] <neure> whats the latest good image?
  • [07:24:03] <koen> the one narcissus generates
  • [07:24:11] <koen> or the ones in demo/beagleboard
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  • [07:27:21] <DanaG> I'm biased towards Ubuntu.
  • [07:27:38] <neure> does 10.04 work ok?
  • [07:28:24] <koen> seeing that they are scrambling to do a 10.07 to fix arm bugs....
  • [07:32:00] <neure> what all is not working in 10.04 armel?
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  • [07:46:11] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/linux-ti-omap
  • [07:46:19] <hrw> morning
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  • [07:49:26] <_av500_> morning
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  • [09:32:42] <koen> quiet today
  • [09:33:07] <hrw> hoidays in few countries
  • [09:34:34] <neure> hmm
  • [09:34:38] <neure> wtf has happened to serial
  • [09:34:43] <neure> i cant connect to it any longer
  • [09:34:50] <neure> nothing comes out
  • [09:35:37] <neure> i better reboot my xp
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  • [09:42:53] <koen> hrw: not in the UK...
  • [09:43:30] <koen> lots of NEON stuff in evas now
  • [09:43:34] <koen> raster: nice :)
  • [09:43:39] <hrw> koen: DE/DK/CH for sure
  • [09:43:46] <hrw> maybe not whole DE
  • [09:43:56] <koen> hrw: NL as well
  • [09:45:22] <hrw> good to know
  • [09:48:39] <raster> koen: yup. should give quite a speedup too
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  • [09:48:58] <raster> it should beat your sgx (omap35/34) in pretty much everything
  • [09:49:13] <koen> yeah, since I can run the arm at 1.2GHz :)
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  • [10:01:01] <koen> raster: from a power pov, which is more efficient, the sgx or arm?
  • [10:01:49] <raster> don't ask me
  • [10:02:03] <raster> you're the wone with the board and all the power measuirng doobies
  • [10:02:05] <raster> i have3 none
  • [10:02:08] <raster> so i dont know :)
  • [10:02:21] <raster> all i care about is which one will get me more fps
  • [10:02:22] <raster> :)
  • [10:02:27] <raster> btw
  • [10:02:37] <raster> u know evas ALSO just got a multi-core renderer
  • [10:02:42] <raster> if ytou have an a9...
  • [10:04:28] <_koen_> I just enabled async rendering in evas and was planning to give that a test
  • [10:04:35] <raster> http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/49087/trunk/evas
  • [10:04:36] <_koen_> if that's the multicore stuff you're taling about
  • [10:04:45] <raster> yes
  • [10:04:47] <dm8tbr> would something like the Archos5 (gen6) benefit from that?
  • [10:04:51] <raster> http://www.rasterman.com/files/evas-async-vs-none.html
  • [10:05:05] <raster> thats a desktop core2 duo btw
  • [10:05:27] <raster> http://www.gurumeditation.it/TMP/cmp_xlib.html
  • [10:05:31] <raster> thats another result
  • [10:06:03] <raster> dm8tbr: from neon, or async (multi-core) ?
  • [10:06:14] <dm8tbr> neon
  • [10:06:21] <dm8tbr> it has only one core
  • [10:06:24] <koen> raster: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/OE/0001-EFL-bump-SRCREV-enable-async-render-more-for-evas.patch
  • [10:06:49] <koen> dm8tbr: if you use angstrom, the neon stuff has been in evas for a long time :)
  • [10:06:53] <XorA> koen: Ill have to try that on omap4 sometime soon :-D
  • [10:07:03] <dm8tbr> koen: ok
  • [10:07:40] <raster> dm8tbr: neon will help
  • [10:08:08] <raster> koen: lets see if it works well for you :)
  • [10:08:13] * dm8tbr needs to read up on neon then. Have no idea what it exactly is besides an cmd-extension or so
  • [10:08:29] <_av500_> simd
  • [10:08:45] <raster> a combo of neon + omap4 would actually make for a rediculously powerful rendering system... and it will give the sgx a run for its money - even the 540 you have
  • [10:09:08] <_av500_> blinking cursor at 1000fps?
  • [10:09:11] <koen> neon is like having a tiny dsp in your arm
  • [10:09:21] <raster> hahahahaha
  • [10:09:26] <raster> yeaqh
  • [10:09:31] <raster> and its sanely accessible
  • [10:09:42] <raster> koen: if only TI did a better job of dsp access and support tools
  • [10:09:47] <dm8tbr> hmm now to find out if we/archos enabled any neon things
  • [10:09:56] <koen> raster: I hear you
  • [10:09:57] <raster> frankly having tried to dev for it in the past.. i wasnt happy with it :(
  • [10:10:19] <koen> dm8tbr: if you're using angstrom.... :)
  • [10:10:33] <_av500_> raster: come on, there is so many tools to chose from...
  • [10:10:40] <raster> EVEN if the tools (yuou have a normal gcc variant to compile for it, a clean access bridge via kernel, with trivial execution setup of dsp binaries)
  • [10:10:54] <_av500_> finding 2 ppl at ti that recommend the same is hard...
  • [10:11:04] <raster> its still complex to deal with a whole separate cpu and os working on its own
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  • [10:11:11] <dm8tbr> koen: yes, but my understanding of what gets enabled and what not is limited. I'm striving to understand angstrom better.
  • [10:11:17] <raster> so even then any benefits may even be of dubious value
  • [10:11:24] <_av500_> raster: well the dsp isa separate cpu
  • [10:11:26] <koen> raster: http://www.linux-c6x.org/about/ :)
  • [10:11:28] <raster> _av500_: hahahaha
  • [10:12:06] <raster> i know its a separate cpu
  • [10:12:11] <dm8tbr> as then I'll feel far more comfortable pushing things we did back to angstrom
  • [10:12:17] <raster> its "how to get shit to run on it"
  • [10:12:32] <raster> frankly... what i'd want is for it to have its won mini linux kernel
  • [10:12:42] <raster> and i can simply execute binaries
  • [10:12:44] <_av500_> raster: for many things the dsp is not much faster, so you have to use it in parallel or you get little speedup
  • [10:12:53] <raster> if bin is arm elf - runs on arm. if its c64xx efl - it runs on the dsp
  • [10:13:15] <raster> primary arm linux kernel simply throws it over the all to the c64xx kernel for execution
  • [10:13:31] <raster> av500: yup. using it in parallel is what makes it then complex
  • [10:13:54] <raster> even if it was a walk in the park to use
  • [10:14:00] <raster> its strill got a high complexity factor
  • [10:14:25] <raster> (just in setting up your algorithms and code to easily split across very disparate cpu's)
  • [10:15:03] <raster> koen: oooh q4 2010... full gcc toolchain. finally! :)
  • [10:15:18] <raster> koen: a big step in the right direction
  • [10:15:18] <raster> :)
  • [10:15:43] <_av500_> koen: and that is still on track?
  • [10:16:11] <raster> koen: and kernel.. awesome
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  • [10:17:02] <raster> all it needs then is the proper interfaces to "share" memory between the 2 kernels (and have direct messaging - eg maybe an abstract unix socket that simply writes data between the 2 kernels)
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  • [10:20:56] <dm8tbr> raster: utilizing both to full extent still would be a challenge right? else it's just a "yo dawg, we herd you like linux kernels ???"
  • [10:21:02] <raster> yes
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  • [10:21:19] <raster> but making it more accessible lowers the barrier of entry
  • [10:21:29] <raster> ie i aqlready have a gob of complexity awaiting me
  • [10:21:35] <dm8tbr> yes
  • [10:21:45] <raster> making it a pain in the bum to even get started just makes me go "bah... screw that"
  • [10:21:54] <_av500_> koen: vp8@c64x when?
  • [10:21:55] <raster> the neon unit is very much more accessible
  • [10:22:01] <raster> so it gets use firsty
  • [10:22:19] <raster> tho one thing i am thinking... a lot of stuff being done is memory bound
  • [10:22:24] <raster> even with the arm core and neon unit
  • [10:22:32] <_av500_> yes
  • [10:22:35] <dm8tbr> I remember looking for C5XX gcc. found out it was a dead end project that never managed to get to create binaries
  • [10:22:43] <raster> so dsp may not help at all unless memory bandwidth got up to silly levels... or if it got multiple ports
  • [10:24:38] <_av500_> it still helps to have the dsp
  • [10:25:19] <raster> for things you can/already have split off into a pipeline - eg audio or video decode.. yup
  • [10:25:29] <koen> _av500_: there has been a vp8 c64x codec for years
  • [10:26:10] <koen> the gcc wrappers already go a long way
  • [10:26:25] <raster> i know at least for now i'd consider movign things like image loading and decode off to the dsp
  • [10:26:41] <raster> at elast that'd be a (small) part of startup pieline that can be farmed off nicely
  • [10:27:00] <raster> wont help the fps.. but i'l help in getting your window up
  • [10:27:03] <koen> there's a beagle gsoc for https://gforge.ti.com/gf/project/dspeasy as well, although that's for 'simple' stuff at the moment
  • [10:27:48] <koen> raster: a few years ago TI demos a web browser running on the DSP, blitting straigt into the fb
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  • [10:27:57] <neure> uh
  • [10:28:00] <koen> raster: was a nice boost for davinci type platforms
  • [10:28:05] <koen> but it never took off
  • [10:28:06] <raster> koen: must have been a rather simple browser
  • [10:28:07] <raster> :)
  • [10:28:09] <neure> any ideas when i get Error, the USB hardware is not on B mode when trying to boot ubuntu netinstall?
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  • [10:28:17] <raster> i cant imagine that browser handling "html5" :)
  • [10:28:29] <raster> (and javascript and everything else)
  • [10:28:49] <koen> raster: it would be a nice hack to run webkit + v8 on the dsp :)
  • [10:29:01] <raster> might be
  • [10:29:18] <raster> that actually could be interesting
  • [10:29:30] <raster> render the web page - or specific tiles in the web page on the dsp
  • [10:29:39] <raster> simply share the memory pages over to the arm host
  • [10:29:49] <raster> and the arm host handles rendering the tiles (scrolling around etc.)
  • [10:29:59] <raster> it'd remove the cost of web page rendering off the arm's back anyway
  • [10:30:49] <koen> and you can use neon/sgx to to fancy effects
  • [10:30:55] <koen> like the "3d page turning"
  • [10:31:57] <raster> i consulted my technical leader and he thinks its an awesome idea
  • [10:32:00] <raster> he went "prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"
  • [10:38:43] <landswipe> i noticed ti have sgx support for android now
  • [10:38:53] <landswipe> i sent an e-mail request but nothing yet.
  • [10:38:59] <landswipe> anyone got it working on an android build?
  • [10:39:45] <landswipe> actually i just got a response from ti
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  • [11:19:36] <_koen_> jkridner1: good moring!
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  • [11:33:23] <jkridner> good morning!
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  • [11:34:28] <mru> pidgin, people still use that?
  • [11:34:42] <koen> it beats mirc on windows
  • [11:34:50] <jkridner> are you recommending something?
  • [11:34:50] <mru> nothing beats irssi
  • [11:35:06] <Crofton|work> heh
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  • [11:38:33] <jkridner> mru: I'm waiting about 2 hours before sending out a reminder of our meeting....
  • [11:38:43] * jkridner realizes he hasn't updated the minutes page.
  • [11:39:03] <mru> right, that's today
  • [11:39:22] <jkridner> today is the first day of coding!
  • [11:39:33] <Crofton> jeez time flies
  • [11:39:59] <jkridner> i hope boards are accounted for by now.
  • [11:40:12] <jkridner> Cathy was working hard on that last week.
  • [11:43:43] <_koen_> jkridner2: I fixed the mkimage bug, opkg upgrade should pull in an updated one
  • [11:43:56] <jkridner> k.
  • [11:44:03] <jkridner> I'm having the worst time with mkcard.txt.
  • [11:44:17] <jkridner> I can't get it to behave on my BeagleBoard.
  • [11:44:49] * jkridner is working on creating a BeagleBoard.org calendar.
  • [11:46:13] <jkridner> anyone know how to make a vanity calendar URL with Google calendar?
  • [11:46:48] <Crofton> what time is the meeting?
  • [11:46:58] <jkridner> 14:00 UTC
  • [11:47:05] <jkridner> (I believe)
  • [11:47:13] <jkridner> 10AM EDT.
  • [11:47:24] <jkridner> does that add up right?
  • [11:47:32] <Crofton> yeah
  • [11:47:41] <_koen_> continental europa has a holiday today
  • [11:51:20] <xorAxAx> are there NEON mplayer/ffmpeg packages for ubuntu lucid?
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  • [12:41:50] <jkridner> koen: why does your new file system image bring me to a (none) login: prompt?
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  • [12:41:58] <jkridner> root/no-password doesn't work.
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  • [12:46:34] <jkridner1> _koen_: what is the login/password?
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  • [13:05:22] <maltanar> hi everyone!
  • [13:06:23] <jkridner1> hi maltanar!
  • [13:09:07] <neure> hi
  • [13:09:19] <neure> how do i add usb stick so i can use disk space from it?
  • [13:10:21] <jkridner1> neure: you can just plug one in. depending on what distro you are running, different things would happen.
  • [13:10:30] <neure> its anstrom
  • [13:10:40] <neure> i have no idea which dev it is and so on
  • [13:10:43] <jkridner1> if it isn't a high-speed USB stick, you'd need to add a USB hub.
  • [13:10:51] <neure> its connected to usb hub
  • [13:11:02] <neure> powered usb hub on the normal usb port
  • [13:11:09] <neure> (not otg)
  • [13:11:12] <jkridner1> if it is formatted, the udev automounter should mount it for you and you can just start reading/writing it.
  • [13:11:21] <neure> no, i want to format it
  • [13:11:26] <neure> i want ext4 fs on it
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  • [13:11:44] <jkridner1> just lookup howto documents just the way you would with any desktop linux...
  • [13:12:18] <jkridner1> umount it..., format it, sync/eject it, re-insert it.
  • [13:12:27] <neure> its not mounted at all
  • [13:12:29] <neure> i cant see it at all
  • [13:12:36] <neure> i dont know which device it would be
  • [13:12:44] <jkridner1> what shows up in 'lsusb'?
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  • [13:13:02] <neure> there is no lsusb in this angstrom demo image :/
  • [13:13:44] <_koen_> yes there is
  • [13:13:50] <neure> oh
  • [13:14:05] <neure> i keep forgetting /sbin is not in path :)
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  • [13:14:27] <neure> i suppose it is Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0b38:0010 ?
  • [13:14:40] <neure> but it is not further recognized
  • [13:15:14] <neure> no, it didnt show up at all in lsusb
  • [13:16:54] <koen> /sbin is in path if you login as root or use su -
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  • [13:36:55] <djlewis> sounds like a good place for the OS anyway.
  • [13:37:29] <sakoman> jkridner: send it to me, I'll install linux on it and give it a reason to live :-)
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  • [13:38:29] <jkridner> There is a chance it is a hardware (overheating) problem, but I am getting real sick of seeing the XP boot screen and feeling my stomach turn.
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  • [13:39:36] <djlewis> jkridner, blow compressed air in where the air blows out to back flush the lint.
  • [13:39:56] <djlewis> laptops and desktops both can stop up like a dryer vent
  • [13:40:00] <jkridner> _koen_: the basic networking stuff isn't there, so 'opkg' isn't all that useful. 'udhcpc' says there is no device.
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  • [13:40:45] <jkridner> djlewis: I was just blowing into it with my mouth before you said that. I don't have any compressed air handy.
  • [13:41:41] * jkridner realizes the loss of presentation materials for a press briefing this afternoon on the xM. :(
  • [13:41:47] <djlewis> jkridner, well unless you are full of hot air ;) that wont work as well.
  • [13:41:49] <neure> strange
  • [13:41:50] <neure> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0951:1607 Kingston Technology Data Traveler 2.0
  • [13:41:54] <neure> that shows up on pc
  • [13:42:04] <neure> but it does not show up at all when plugged in beagleboard
  • [13:42:12] <jkridner> do other things work through your hub on the beagleboard?
  • [13:42:17] <jkridner> is it a USB 2.0 high-speed hub?
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  • [13:42:22] <neure> yes
  • [13:42:26] <neure> keyboard works
  • [13:42:30] <neure> mouse works
  • [13:42:34] <neure> ethernet works
  • [13:42:43] <neure> let me try another usb stick
  • [13:43:15] <neure> another usb DOES show up
  • [13:45:09] <neure> strange
  • [13:45:12] <neure> well hmm
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  • [13:53:38] <ddd> how to set up internet connectity on Angstrom Zoom2
  • [13:54:55] <ddd> connectivity
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  • [14:17:04] <_av500_> djlewis: so it will work for jkridner :)
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  • [14:17:54] <jkridner> low. :)
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  • [14:20:50] <djlewis> :)
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  • [14:49:58] <djlewis> I see http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ is cleaned up some.
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  • [15:03:48] <djlewis> jkridner, I saw you had fun with mkcard.sh. It worked great for me last night on my 4GB SDHC.
  • [15:04:34] <jkridner> yeah, it has been a pain to run directly on the beagleboard...
  • [15:04:47] <djlewis> oh, that I did not try :(
  • [15:04:54] <jkridner> I'm trying to add the copy operations to it and some error checking for missing utilities on the beagleboard.
  • [15:05:16] <djlewis> such a small script that does a lot.
  • [15:05:23] <jkridner> I think it is nice to work within a known environment. I know people should be able to reproduce something on the beagle.
  • [15:06:32] <djlewis> agree
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  • [15:11:20] <xorAxAx> hmm, i have a board here which echoes the characters on the serial line but doesnt send anything
  • [15:11:24] <xorAxAx> how can i debug this?
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  • [15:25:15] <akshat> Hello :)
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  • [15:32:05] <akshat> I am encountering a problem while using rtorrent from angstrom. As soon as I press ctrl-S, the terminal hangs, but rtorrent keeps on working. I thought it could be bacause ctrl-S is also an XON/XOFF character so i tried disabling it through stty but that does not help. Does anyone have a solution?
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  • [15:34:05] <jkridner> ctrl-Q --or-- turn off software flow control in your terminal software, which is likely where your problem is.
  • [15:34:27] <akshat> jkridner: that's what I did using stty but that does not help
  • [15:34:38] <jkridner> stty is for the target, isn't it?
  • [15:34:57] <akshat> jkridner: I did not get you?
  • [15:35:29] <akshat> stty is for the terminal itself.
  • [15:35:30] <jkridner> I think that you want to disable it in minicom/whatever, not on your shell, but I could be wrong.
  • [15:36:13] <akshat> jkridner: I did an ssh to beagle
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  • [15:36:29] <jkridner> ah!
  • [15:36:33] <akshat> anyways it hangs in both the ssh session as well as minicom
  • [15:36:56] <akshat> I found a bug on rtorrent -> http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/ticket/1611
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  • [15:37:09] <akshat> but this seems to be very old. don't know if this is still valid
  • [15:40:26] <Seb000156> Hello, I would like to know if BeagleBoard image from Angstrom website can work on Overo?
  • [15:40:51] <akshat> hey, just a crazy question. How long have you run the beagle at a stretch ? :D
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  • [15:43:15] <robtow> Seb000156 - no it an't. Overo has prebuilt images that sakoman builds for them.
  • [15:43:54] <robtow> err, "can't"
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  • [15:44:58] <Seb000156> ok thanks, I have pain using gstreamer-ti on Overo Fire, sometimes I got a kernel Oops, it is unstable
  • [15:45:20] <robtow> Seb000156 - http://www.gumstix.net/Overo/view/Overo-Setup-and-Programming/Downloading-pre-built-images/115.html
  • [15:46:27] <Seb000156> thank you robtow. do you know if they have fiw the wifi speed? baudrate is low ~100kbps/s
  • [15:47:13] <Seb000156> Does theses image are build with DSP support?
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  • [15:48:29] <xorAxAx> hi, i have a beagle board which neither beeps, nor displays bars over s-video, nor generates output via serial line. is it broken?
  • [15:48:30] <robtow> Seb000156 - no, and I don't think so. Direct questions to sakoman; he maintains & builds those images, as a community service (he is a real jewel).
  • [15:48:52] <robtow> xorAxAx - yes.
  • [15:50:39] <Seb000156> robtow - yes, I know, I use his images, great for Desktop aplications!. On which target are you working?
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  • [15:52:09] <robtow> Seb000156 - you mean which Overo module? I've used the Fire for initial exploration, and going into production with the Water.
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  • [15:52:47] <xorAxAx> which component does the beep?
  • [15:52:57] <robtow> Preceeded by very initial exploration using the Beagle C3, then C4.
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  • [15:53:26] <robtow> Seb000156 - sakoman makes a "console image" as well.
  • [15:53:39] <Seb000156> robtow: yes. I am working on Overo Fire, and try to stream with H264, but the wifi speed is slow. What is your application?
  • [15:54:34] <xorAxAx> robtow: which software component beeps at startup?
  • [15:54:39] <robtow> Seb000156 - I am controlling a tethered 14.7 megapixel camera on an autonomous ocean going vehicle.
  • [15:55:01] <Seb000156> robtow, I see yes, thank you, but no DSP support. Actually I use gstreamer-ti to stream but sometimes I got a kernel Oops..
  • [15:55:41] <robtow> Seb000156 - not much support in that realm.
  • [15:57:59] <Seb000156> robtow- ok, thanks for your help, I will try to get this working
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  • [15:59:31] <djlewis> xorAxAx, not sure a BB beep is valid?
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  • [15:59:50] <djlewis> xorAxAx, have you tried the BB recovery yet?
  • [16:00:14] <xorAxAx> djlewis: doesnt work either
  • [16:00:24] <xorAxAx> djlewis: no output on the serial line
  • [16:01:08] <xorAxAx> no response on the serial line, no beep, nothing boots
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  • [16:02:45] <djlewis> external 5vDC supply in dc in jack?
  • [16:03:04] <djlewis> lights?
  • [16:03:08] <xorAxAx> yes, leds on
  • [16:03:09] <djlewis> LED's
  • [16:03:21] <xorAxAx> all 3
  • [16:03:31] <djlewis> lit?
  • [16:03:34] <xorAxAx> yes
  • [16:04:28] <djlewis> my revC2 gets pwr led first, seconds later other two light.
  • [16:05:02] <xorAxAx> 3 seconds, yes
  • [16:05:16] <djlewis> sounds like some things are working :)
  • [16:05:46] <xorAxAx> anybody who could help me troubleshoot this
  • [16:06:02] <djlewis> beeps and bars are likely to change with u-boot versions.
  • [16:06:14] <djlewis> hey, what have I been doing?
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  • [16:07:57] <djlewis> xorAxAx, I suggest really going over your serial connection and term sftware.
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  • [16:13:52] <Jefro> one time I spent 2 hours trying to figure out why I got nothing on the serial line and found that I had my IDC10 connector installed backward.
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  • [16:16:28] <Jefro> xorAxAx : which version is your non-working beagle? If you by any chance have a prototype of the new xM, try using a straight serial cable instead of a null-modem.
  • [16:16:36] <xorAxAx> Jefro: C4
  • [16:17:30] <Jefro> xorAxAx : LEDs indicate that it is booting but not talking on serial. connecting with serial cable or via USB-to-serial?
  • [16:17:39] <xorAxAx> Jefro: tried both
  • [16:18:20] <Jefro> that sounds not good. possibly a hardware issue with the board.
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  • [16:19:23] <Jefro> you might try pinging Gerald on the discussion group
  • [16:20:35] <Jefro> if he can't fix it, it can't be fixed
  • [16:20:56] <xorAxAx> now i wonder if there are multiple types of cables out there - i got one which works fine with my armadillo 300
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  • [16:28:31] <Jefro> xorAxAx : I have definitely had varying results with different cables. cheap ones seem to work best for whatever reason.
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  • [16:55:13] <sakoman> robtow: FWIW, the wifi speed issue is fixed in the latest builds -- ever since the switch to 2.6.33 kernel
  • [16:56:20] <sakoman> the images have sgx support, but not dsp
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  • [16:58:05] <robtow> sakoman - good to know :-)
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  • [17:36:24] <djlewis_> xorAxAx: the 10-pin header is an Everex type. There are others that look just like it but wont work.
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  • [17:43:26] <prpplague> jkridner1: hey bud
  • [17:43:38] <prpplague> jkridner1: tinkered around with your trainer board yet?
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  • [17:57:25] <koen> prpplague: what's cooking today?
  • [17:58:02] <prpplague> koen: trying to finish up some work before i head out on saturday to barbados
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  • [17:59:13] <koen> *jealous*
  • [17:59:16] <prpplague> koen: trying to manually apply some musb patches
  • [17:59:25] <koen> *not so jealous*
  • [18:00:00] <prpplague> koen: still terribly depressed/sad about that lost $14k
  • [18:00:34] <koen> I can imagine
  • [18:01:30] <prpplague> koen: the trainer board seemed to draw alot of attention at the makerfaire over the weekend
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  • [18:01:50] <koen> that's good news
  • [18:02:06] <koen> I would have liked to travel to SF, I really like that place
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  • [18:03:11] <koen> that reminds me, I need to do some powermeasurements on my makerbot to see if I can replace the atx psu with a picopsu
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  • [18:12:29] <prpplague> hmm arago-project.com is slooooow today
  • [18:14:50] <emeb> prpplague: ping
  • [18:15:32] <prpplague> emeb: pong
  • [18:15:50] <emeb> Made some progress on a test prog over the weekend
  • [18:16:19] <prpplague> dandy
  • [18:16:25] <emeb> confirmed the beagle->fpga gpio connectivity
  • [18:16:47] <emeb> except for 3 McBSP3 pins that the kernel won't give up
  • [18:17:34] <emeb> any ETA on the OrCAD libs?
  • [18:18:12] <prpplague> emeb: you should already have them! i'm guessing my email bounced
  • [18:18:21] <prpplague> emeb: i'll check on that this afternoon
  • [18:18:34] <emeb> prpplague: Nothing showed up here.
  • [18:19:10] <emeb> I'll check the spam filter though...
  • [18:21:04] <emeb> prpplague: nope - nothing in the spam jail since 5-17.
  • [18:21:22] <prpplague> i suspect it bounced due to attachment file size
  • [18:21:43] <emeb> could be.
  • [18:22:02] <emeb> chop it up, or post somewhere I can d/l & mail a link...
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  • [19:42:28] <koen> prpplague: denix should have the new server for arago online this week
  • [19:42:36] <prpplague> koen: dandy
  • [19:47:34] <denix> that's the plan...
  • [19:48:07] <denix> now, to make sure I can stick to it :)
  • [19:52:24] * koen bought some spray-on glue today
  • [19:53:09] <koen> now where's the plan and where's denix?
  • [19:54:34] <koen> prpplague: I hope to have some time this week to work with the trainer now that my avr programmer arrived
  • [19:54:58] <prpplague> koen: :)
  • [19:55:11] * koen wonders if the xds510 would also be able to program the avr
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  • [20:17:55] <prpplague> koen: the atmega328 doesn't have jtag
  • [20:18:19] <prpplague> koen: next gen of the flyswatter will have avr ISP support
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  • [22:02:25] <djlewis_> hi again
  • [22:04:26] <emeb> lo
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  • [22:22:54] <djlewis_> emeb: still wrestling with uart2?
  • [22:23:23] <emeb> djlewis_: haven't solved it yet, but haven't really been putting any effort in since yesterday.
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  • [22:23:48] <emeb> looks like it has to do with some 'features' of the psp kernel
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  • [22:24:17] <djlewis_> a break from it might help :)
  • [22:24:37] <emeb> yeah - that and this annoyance called 'work'
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  • [22:27:27] <djlewis_> oh to be indepentently wealthy, to dream a dream . . ..sigh. . .
  • [22:27:42] <djlewis_> independently
  • [22:28:13] <emeb> :)
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  • [22:35:22] <ds2> move out to an unincorporated area and...
  • [22:36:13] <sakoman> hmmm . . . I think djlewis_ already did that :-)
  • [22:37:17] <djlewis_> yep, love my country setting :)
  • [22:37:34] <djlewis_> but then sakoman did too irc :)
  • [22:39:05] <djlewis_> vista can go down hill very fast with a virus. . .
  • [22:45:37] <sakoman> djlewis_: yes, you recall correctly
  • [22:48:32] <xorAxAx> does uboot show up on dvi as well or only on serial line?
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  • [23:11:51] <djlewis_> dvi will show a graphic or a orange screen during boot. Not uboot.
  • [23:12:05] <djlewis_> not uboot txt
  • [23:14:47] * djlewis_ thinks graphic or orange screen is from uboot.
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  • [23:15:17] <djlewis_> please correct me if I am mistaken :)
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  • [23:16:46] <xorAxAx> ok, how long does the recovery procedure need to reflash the beagle?
  • [23:18:09] <ds2> sakoman: how's your neck of the woods? can you still drive out?
  • [23:19:36] <Crofton> I imagine he is waiting for the woods to catch fire
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  • [23:20:16] <ds2> it has been a wet year and last's call to the ranger's office says it is muddy
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  • [23:20:37] <ds2> almost to the point where stock 4x4's won't make it
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  • [23:21:20] <sakoman> ds2: not muddy at all here
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  • [23:21:46] <sakoman> which ranger's office are you referring to?
  • [23:21:47] <ds2> hmmm
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  • [23:22:09] <ds2> the folks north of you... Modoc NF, Alturas is the one I called
  • [23:22:35] <sakoman> ah, a completely different climate! they are at a much higher elevation
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  • [23:22:51] <ds2> Oh I see
  • [23:22:52] <sakoman> iirc correctly it snowed there a couple of days ago!
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  • [23:23:20] <ds2> they just said it was wet but they also say it tends to dry out in 1-2 days of sunshine
  • [23:23:21] <sakoman> a few 1000 feet in elevation makes a big difference
  • [23:23:40] <ds2> FWIW, it was sleeting down here Sunday
  • [23:24:27] <sakoman> it was sunny and mid 70's here!
  • [23:25:01] <sakoman> but you are several hundred miles south, so things should be warmer :-)
  • [23:25:08] <ds2> should :/
  • [23:25:31] <ds2> this weather shifting is playing havoc with my irrigation plans :(
  • [23:25:44] <sakoman> yeah, this is a strange year
  • [23:27:19] <ds2> i should drag a beagle board up to alturas to do an environmental test on it ;)
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