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  • [01:51:23] <djlewis> oh the quiet. .
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  • [01:53:59] <aditya_1111> heyooo
  • [01:57:01] <emeb> <crickets>
  • [01:57:05] <aditya_1111> sup djlewis
  • [01:57:09] <aditya_1111> and emeb
  • [01:57:09] <aditya_1111> heh
  • [01:57:44] <djlewis> I got this loud arse whipporwill blaring through my home . . .
  • [01:58:06] <aditya_1111> whats a whipporwill?
  • [01:58:06] <djlewis> Upstairs balcony is one of his fav spots and that foor is open.
  • [01:58:24] <djlewis> one of the ugliest birds known
  • [01:58:44] <emeb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiporwill
  • [01:58:48] <aditya_1111> wow
  • [01:58:50] <djlewis> it is a night bird that favors telms in the low 70'sF
  • [01:58:58] <aditya_1111> that/.. is a ugly bird
  • [01:58:59] <djlewis> s tel,s/temps
  • [01:59:04] <djlewis> oh
  • [01:59:18] <djlewis> did you google it?
  • [01:59:36] <djlewis> yep
  • [02:00:39] <emeb> we've got mourning doves here. and pigeons. lots of pigeons. that p**p all over.
  • [02:01:32] <emeb> djlewis: how's the weather tonight?
  • [02:03:26] <djlewis> no storms :), clear and cool
  • [02:03:51] <emeb> a little less exciting than yesterday.
  • [02:04:29] <djlewis> yes, I was wakened several times in the night to thunderstorms and tornado warnings
  • [02:05:00] <emeb> never a good thing. Weather here is gonna be pretty boring for the next 2 mo or so.
  • [02:05:33] <emeb> Gets hotter & drier until about mid-July, then 2mo of periodic thunderstorms.
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  • [02:17:31] <Dan_> Finally ordered my beagleboard, along with a ton of parts. Does anyone know how easy it is to get a wireless USB adapter for wi-fi working on ubuntu on the beagleboard?
  • [02:18:23] <emeb> shouldn't be too big a deal.
  • [02:18:41] <djlewis> Dan_, depends on if you try the hard or easy way.
  • [02:18:51] <emeb> there are plenty of kernel modules for wifi adapters built in the kernels
  • [02:19:39] <emeb> djlewis: what's the difference between hard & easy ways?
  • [02:21:42] <djlewis> well, kinda depends on the kernel and if static or dhcp.
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  • [02:22:16] <emeb> I guess it's important to check to make sure your adapter is supported...
  • [02:22:20] * eDan is now known as DanZ
  • [02:22:22] <rcn-ee> Dan_, start with "sudo ifconfig -a" then move from their with iwconfig....
  • [02:22:50] <djlewis> I found that with both 2.6.28 and 2.6.29 stable Ang that disabling connman from starting or removing it altogether was a great help
  • [02:23:34] <DanZ> kk thanks
  • [02:24:23] <djlewis> like emeb suggests, that might get you a lucky start
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  • [02:26:00] <djlewis> ok, got synergyc configured on this wkstn :)
  • [02:26:18] <emeb> connman may/may not be in the distro you're running. ps waux | grep connman to check.
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  • [02:27:46] * emeb built built angstrom unstable over the weekend and it's not in there.
  • [02:28:13] <djlewis> got my file browser going too
  • [02:28:38] <djlewis> emeb, you left it out of the config
  • [02:29:15] <emeb> djlewis: just did a bitbake x11-image
  • [02:29:40] <emeb> must not be in the minimal x11 system that creates.
  • [02:29:52] <djlewis> emeb, did you get networking?
  • [02:30:20] <emeb> djlewis: yes - simple though, only uses the /etc/network/interfaces script
  • [02:30:40] <djlewis> I use that and hosts, hostname and resolv.conf
  • [02:30:48] <djlewis> as I do static ip
  • [02:31:07] <emeb> me too - which was just what I wanted anyway, so no complaints
  • [02:31:13] <djlewis> so any of my wkstns can connect to beagle and vice versa
  • [02:31:30] <djlewis> cool
  • [02:31:41] <emeb> the window mgr in X11-image is pretty funky though - no real windowing - all windows go fullscreen
  • [02:32:04] <djlewis> last year when I installed OE I test built console image and after just apps.
  • [02:32:15] <emeb> that works.
  • [02:32:30] <emeb> I ssh into beagle mostly, so cmd line is all I really need.
  • [02:33:10] <djlewis> I setup for file drag and drop and remote desktop
  • [02:33:21] <emeb> sounds handy.
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  • [02:33:57] <emeb> I haven't figured out how to setup id_rsa.pub for dropbear so that the beagle can ssh into other machines w/o passwd.
  • [02:34:12] <emeb> dropbear dox are kinda minimalist
  • [02:34:14] <djlewis> sometimes I work in console on BB then others GUI
  • [02:34:56] <emeb> w/ synergy?
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  • [02:35:22] <cwillu_at_work> emeb, id_rsa.pub goes into /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys on the machine and user you want to log in as, where id_rsa.pub comes from /home/user/.ssh/ on the machine and user you're logging in from (or potentially /root/.ssh)
  • [02:35:38] <djlewis> I dont usually go from BB to wkstn with ssh.
  • [02:35:41] <cwillu_at_work> oh, dropbear doesn't support it?
  • [02:35:57] <emeb> cwillu_at_work: dropbear has it's own funky key system
  • [02:36:05] <djlewis> synergyc is for using a monitor on each system and just one kybd and mouse.
  • [02:36:06] <emeb> not quite the same as openssh
  • [02:36:17] <djlewis> very fast, like realtime
  • [02:36:32] <cwillu_at_work> emeb, and you're logging into dropbear, or from dropbear?
  • [02:36:42] <djlewis> does take two monitors or one with a input select
  • [02:36:59] <emeb> cwillu_at_work: I believe that dropbear is both client & server for ssh on BB
  • [02:37:13] <emeb> keeps it's key in a DB in /etc/dropbear
  • [02:37:23] <emeb> s/it's/its/
  • [02:37:26] <cwillu_at_work> emeb, so you're using it as the client, and not logging into a dropbear server
  • [02:37:48] <ragha> guys, know how to fix this problem, svc: failed to register lockdv1 RPC service (errno 111).
  • [02:37:48] <emeb> cwillu_at_work: both - I ssh to bb from my desktop - that works
  • [02:38:16] <ragha> this is with 2.6.34 kernel
  • [02:38:29] <emeb> have my desktop's id_rsa.pub installed on bb in /home/root/.ssh/authorized_keys
  • [02:38:49] <emeb> but going the other way is different and I haven't gotten that working yet.
  • [02:38:58] <emeb> (ie bb->desktop)
  • [02:39:33] <cwillu_at_work> strace ssh ... | grep -R "id_dsa|id_rsa"? :p
  • [02:40:17] <emeb> maybe.
  • [02:41:00] <emeb> I think ssh is part of busybox on beagle.
  • [02:41:06] <emeb> and maps to dropbear
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  • [02:43:44] <emeb> hmm - maybe not: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 May 16 17:45 /usr/bin/ssh -> ssh.openssh
  • [02:44:04] <GrizzlyAdams> thats called an alternative
  • [02:45:48] <emeb> maybe I'm remembering something from a previous version of Angstrom...
  • [02:47:06] * emeb installs openssh-keygen...
  • [02:51:43] <emeb> nevermind...
  • [02:52:09] <emeb> ssh works just fine in this newer version of Angstrom... :P
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  • [02:56:30] <emeb> later...
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  • [03:22:39] <ddd> anyone uses Android here? a cross-compiled code with 2008q3 toolchain can not run on zoom2 board with Android FS successfully. why?
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  • [03:52:33] <eigen> I'm new to BB so forgive this naive question -- Is there a way to observe the beagle board boot sequence purely through ICD or USB but without a monitor?
  • [03:52:39] <eigen> (and for the first time)
  • [03:53:02] <rcn-ee> like the serial port? ;)
  • [03:53:20] <ds2> ooohhhh ahhhhhh
  • [03:55:40] <eigen> So, the serial port is sufficient?
  • [03:55:48] <eigen> it'll start up with a login screen?
  • [03:55:48] <rcn-ee> it's the best.. ;)
  • [03:55:52] <eigen> OK
  • [03:55:53] <eigen> perfect
  • [03:55:55] <eigen> thank you.
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  • [03:58:08] <newbie_> hello everyone, need help. wanna make kernel with O3, but don't know how to set this
  • [03:58:39] <newbie_> saw Makefile, there could be set optimize for size
  • [03:58:59] <newbie_> but don't know where to set to turn on the switch
  • [03:59:09] <newbie_> anybody could help? many thanks
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  • [05:17:50] <ddd_> anyway to enable zoom2 keyboard to type "0" to "9" with Angstrom FS?
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  • [05:58:46] <tom__> has anyone compiled mplayer with neon extensions natively on an arm ubuntu build?
  • [06:00:29] <ddd__> anyone works on zoom2 Android cross-compiler successfully? thanks
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  • [06:24:44] <jeff1> hi! Was anybody able to install GPIB modules on beagle?
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  • [06:25:03] <powerpan> hello, is there anybody familiar with kernel make?
  • [06:25:32] <powerpan> I need help in making kernel
  • [06:25:56] <jeff1> powerpan, I tried it several times ) not expert ))
  • [06:26:24] <powerpan> thanks jeff,
  • [06:26:45] <powerpan> I tried to set optimization while making kernel
  • [06:27:01] <powerpan> but the way I do is to modify Makefile,
  • [06:27:33] <powerpan> I wonder if ther is any selection in menu to set optimization for speed or for size
  • [06:28:25] <powerpan> and I tried google the result, no clear hits found.
  • [06:30:14] <jeff1> don't know,sorry
  • [06:33:13] <powerpan> thanks anyway, jeff
  • [06:33:22] <powerpan> I'll try to find it out myself
  • [06:33:50] <powerpan> by and good night
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  • [06:42:16] <dabs> Hello all,Am not able to compile my code with the " __packed" alignment usage on my BB.
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  • [06:42:41] <dabs> could anyone hint me out any inputs..
  • [06:43:56] <av500> dabs: what are you after?
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  • [06:50:37] <dabs> Am facing problem while using memcpy function on my BB.
  • [06:51:00] <av500> memcpy works fine on BB
  • [06:51:06] <dabs> I feel there should be some alignement issue i need to take care of..here
  • [06:51:26] <av500> memcpy has solved that problem ages ago
  • [06:52:43] <DanaG> dabs: you sure you have the right syntax? __attribute__((packed))
  • [06:52:54] <DanaG> Or is that a different directive?
  • [06:53:00] <av500> DanaG: no, he refers to something else
  • [06:53:13] <dabs> so when i used the option of __packed and tried to compile..it gives me some error saying as undeclared
  • [06:53:27] <av500> dabs: and what did google tell you?
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  • [06:54:33] <dabs> I could not find any option for compiling on BB using arm-elf-gcc
  • [06:55:07] <av500> dabs: you are making little sense
  • [06:55:11] <ddd__> hey all, i think the zoom2 keyboard has not been set up properly yet, in this case, if i want set up my network, i have to give the ip address, so i tried to input it in zoom2 terminal with command line, but however, zoom2 board still can not access internet. anyone can help?
  • [06:55:24] <av500> ddd__: you are asking that for days now
  • [06:56:05] <ddd__> av500, yeah, do you have any solution about it?
  • [06:56:13] <av500> no
  • [06:56:24] * av500 recommends to look into the source and fix it
  • [06:57:17] <av500> dabs: http://www.google.com/search?q=+__packed
  • [06:57:32] <ddd__> android has set up the zoom2 board properly
  • [06:57:47] <av500> ddd__: good
  • [06:58:07] <ddd__> but, i can not use it with Angstrom
  • [06:58:24] <av500> well, then compare the source code
  • [06:58:51] <ddd__> it is not one day work
  • [06:59:11] <av500> so?
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  • [07:03:21] <ddd__> av500, seems nobody uses zoom2 board
  • [07:03:39] <av500> most people here use a beagleboard
  • [07:04:37] <ddd__> where to find zoom2 board guys?
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  • [07:10:22] <hrw> morning
  • [07:11:11] <av500> hrw: gm
  • [07:11:38] <av500> ddd__: you could try in #linux-omap, but I doubt it
  • [07:12:04] <av500> you will have to spend your days looking into the keyboard driver...
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  • [07:27:22] <koen> good morning
  • [07:27:29] <av500> gm koen
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  • [07:38:17] <dm8tbr> good moaning
  • [07:40:32] <dabs> av500: i have tried these options along with the arm suggestion by using "__packed char * ptr ,which points to a integer ptr with int typecasted.
  • [07:40:55] <dabs> Am not able to compile with this __packed keyword..
  • [07:41:20] <dabs> i get "undeclared" compilation errors..
  • [07:42:44] <dabs> I would like to know how do i compile with " __packed" option?
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  • [07:45:27] <av500> dabs: can you read?
  • [07:45:41] <av500> it says clearly that gcc does not support __packed
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  • [07:46:44] <dabs> Yes you are right..but how do i get an work around for this?
  • [07:46:56] <av500> you change the code
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  • [07:51:08] <dabs> ok thank..i will try
  • [07:51:13] <dabs> thanks*
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  • [08:02:02] <koen> isn't that supposed to the __atribute__ packed or something?
  • [08:02:21] <koen> it's a long time ago I fixed nwfpe in the kernel with that :)
  • [08:03:20] <av500> no
  • [08:03:31] <av500> it is __packed int *p;
  • [08:03:44] <av500> which with armcc allows you to acces an int from any adress
  • [08:04:00] <av500> by the compiler generating the needed byte access code
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  • [08:17:40] <tasslehoff> av500, in our usb-discussion a while ago you said that you run in host mode until you detect VBUS, and then swith to device. doesn't the beagle drive VBUS in host mode? If it does, how do you detect VBUS from another host while you're outputting it yourself?
  • [08:19:00] <av500> ah right
  • [08:19:05] <av500> we have 2 different ports
  • [08:19:53] <av500> data lines are shared, vbus is not
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  • [08:21:03] <tasslehoff> av500, aha :)
  • [08:21:18] <tasslehoff> back to the drawing board then..
  • [08:21:20] <av500> :)
  • [08:21:38] <av500> how automatic does it have to be?
  • [08:21:45] <av500> you could have a mode switch button
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  • [08:22:28] <av500> dl9pf: there is opensuse for BB? :)
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  • [08:25:18] <tasslehoff> av500, would be nice if it was automatic, but a button or gui/cli-option is a possibility. should the otg driver work if the proper cables are used? A for devices and B for hosts.
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  • [08:31:07] <av500> tasslehoff: you are overlooking something :)
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  • [08:31:50] <av500> tasslehoff: I cannot comment on the otg driver, we more or less gave up on it
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  • [08:35:08] <tasslehoff> av500, promising :)
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  • [08:44:50] <leela> Hi i had a problem in connecting my wireless adapter to a access point in ubuntu on beagleboard
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  • [08:59:35] <hari_> in android gprs is not working in angstrom it will work?
  • [09:00:42] <nlCortana> hi all, how to run the codec-engine-examples on the beagleboard console image
  • [09:01:24] <dm8tbr> hari_: your question lacks the necessary detail for an answer to be possible
  • [09:01:33] <nlCortana> for dsplink there is a lot to find on google, but the codec engine not (but maybe i use the wrong key)
  • [09:03:40] <hari_> we ported android os on beagle but interfacing of gprs modem is not worked is there any possibility to interface the gprs modem to work in angstrom
  • [09:04:35] <hari_> anybody interfaced the gprs modem on to the beagleboard?
  • [09:04:59] <av500> hari_: rild
  • [09:05:02] <av500> implement one
  • [09:05:10] <dm8tbr> oh, yet another android port!
  • [09:05:27] * dm8tbr makes note of android port 2342 to the BB
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  • [09:06:32] <bleikert> hi there, has anyone managed to speed up the boot time of a linux system (e.g. angstrom) on the omap3? And i mean, dramatically ;)
  • [09:07:14] <av500> http://code.google.com/p/swiftbeagle/
  • [09:08:24] <nlCortana> can anyone width a working dsp configuration try to run this command? export CE_DEBUG=2 ; gst-launch fakesrc ! TIVidenc1 codecName=h264enc engineName=codecServer ! fakesink
  • [09:08:31] <nlCortana> and pastebin me the output?
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  • [09:12:17] <hari_> for GSM connection rild is helpful for gprs connection may be it will not use tell me any other alternete thing
  • [09:13:39] <av500> fairy dust??
  • [09:13:41] <av500> fairy dust?
  • [09:15:03] <hari_> by using rild can gprs modem will work ?
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  • [09:22:54] <akshat> Hello :)
  • [09:24:03] <nlCortana> av500: can you run the above command for me?
  • [09:24:05] <nlCortana> please
  • [09:24:51] <nlCortana> i want to have something to compare to
  • [09:25:27] <akshat> I am using the angstrom images but get a "Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt" error. I have the output from the beagle pated at -> http://pastebin.com/eW68GXsV
  • [09:25:59] <_koen_> using usb power?
  • [09:26:01] <av500> nlCortana: cant, I have no angstrom on no BB
  • [09:26:26] <akshat> _koen_: was about to say that :)
  • [09:26:29] <akshat> yes
  • [09:26:36] <akshat> I have read about that issue
  • [09:27:23] <akshat> I ust wanted to know if there is a kernel prameter that I could pass through the bootargs to disable musb, if that is the issue
  • [09:27:37] <_koen_> no, 2.6.32 is just a massive powerhog
  • [09:27:39] <akshat> _koen_: you think that would work?
  • [09:27:49] <_koen_> no
  • [09:27:54] <akshat> _koen_: ok
  • [09:28:33] <hari_> by using rild can gprs modem will work ?
  • [09:28:46] <akshat> _koen_: then how do i get aound the problem if I don't have a power supply to use with the DC jack, or am I stuck without it :)
  • [09:29:08] * koen has no idea on that
  • [09:29:15] <akshat> ok
  • [09:29:18] <nlCortana> av500: what are you running then?
  • [09:29:25] <av500> my own hw
  • [09:29:32] <av500> my own rootfs
  • [09:29:49] <akshat> _koen_: but you definately think that it would work with a DC supply? right?
  • [09:30:10] <nlCortana> av500: i thought everyone was running angstrom here
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  • [09:30:24] <koen> yes
  • [09:30:31] <av500> nlCortana: no
  • [09:30:37] <akshat> _koen_: thanks :)
  • [09:30:39] <av500> we recommend it to ppl
  • [09:31:11] <akshat> actually one of the reasons to not get a DC supply was because I could find a reliable one
  • [09:31:31] <akshat> but i think that now I don't have an option :(
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  • [09:41:32] <_koen_> or wait till the TI kernel team fixes the power problems :)
  • [09:41:54] <av500> ticket number #45783747?
  • [09:43:00] <akshat> _koen_: I am not aware of the actualt issue, just know that it is something to do with excess power on the OTG port. Can you please explain the actual issue
  • [09:43:17] <av500> yes, that
  • [09:43:27] <akshat> av500: ok. thanks :)
  • [09:43:33] <koen> 2.6.32 takes to much power and for some reason it can't get that thru the usb port
  • [09:43:35] <av500> the board tries to take more than 100mA before it is enumerated on the usb bus
  • [09:43:49] <av500> and the hub then switches the port off
  • [09:44:04] <av500> for usb, you have to ask nicely before you get more than 100mA
  • [09:44:28] <akshat> yes, got that
  • [09:44:35] <av500> or, the hub does not care, but the board take >500mA and the hub cries foul...
  • [09:44:39] <akshat> thanks for the explaination
  • [09:46:06] <DaveDavenport> 100mA is easily crossed.
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  • [09:48:06] <DaveDavenport> I see around 210 mA during boot
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  • [09:51:31] <akshat> av500: where do I use the number that you just posted? I tried it on the TI kernel pages but get nothing.
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  • [09:54:13] <av500> akshat: that was a joke
  • [09:54:31] <akshat> av500: what was a joke ? the number? :)
  • [09:54:50] <av500> yes
  • [09:55:19] <akshat> av500: ok. :D lol. you really convinced me that it was real. lol
  • [09:55:34] <av500> yes, the number sounded wuite reasonable...
  • [09:55:40] <av500> quite
  • [09:56:32] <akshat> av500: you know of a good power supply to use with the beagle, something that does not go beyond the beagle's specs
  • [09:56:44] <akshat> av500: its 5.2V right?
  • [09:56:47] <av500> use a 5V power supply
  • [09:57:09] <akshat> yes, I'v had a look at some but they all read more that 5.5 on the meter
  • [09:57:22] <av500> connect a load
  • [09:57:29] <akshat> I haven't found a good one yet
  • [09:57:48] <akshat> ok. was thinking of some diodes in series
  • [09:57:54] <av500> no
  • [09:58:14] <akshat> av500: why ?
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  • [09:59:10] <akshat> av500: isn't that a good way for (n times .7V) drop
  • [09:59:45] <koen> akshat: I have something for you to try in a few minutes
  • [10:00:20] <akshat> koen: ok
  • [10:00:38] <akshat> :)
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  • [10:03:52] <_koen_> mru: ping
  • [10:04:01] <mru> pong
  • [10:04:12] <av500> peng
  • [10:04:26] <av500> _koen_ haz xm patch?
  • [10:04:34] <akshat> ricochet rabbit...
  • [10:04:35] <_koen_> mru: do you need any stuff for the videowall?
  • [10:04:47] <av500> 2x c3
  • [10:04:56] <mru> or better
  • [10:05:10] <mru> a C4 would be really nice since it has good ehci
  • [10:05:12] <mru> and we use that
  • [10:05:27] <av500> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-4_(explosive)
  • [10:05:37] <koen> mru: ok, let me try to get those from TI
  • [10:05:44] <mru> thanks
  • [10:05:52] <av500> koen: if not we WILL raid the booth, you dont want that
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  • [10:06:02] <mru> if you get a memory fix for the xm, I can use that...
  • [10:06:17] <koen> no reproducable fix :(
  • [10:07:03] <mru> av500: the beast comes with all the cables?
  • [10:07:14] <av500> same as fosdem
  • [10:07:16] <mru> just assembly tools required?
  • [10:07:36] <av500> yes, I will build it up here start of june and make sure it works
  • [10:07:57] <akshat> koen: just for your information. my board is a C3.
  • [10:08:18] <koen> mru: I've set the wheels in motion, should have an ACK or NAK next week
  • [10:08:39] * mru wonders if a set of philips bits are allowed on the plane...
  • [10:09:01] <av500> mru: I will include the tools
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  • [10:09:06] <koen> akshat: could you try this kernel and modules: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/OE/power/ ?
  • [10:09:23] <koen> akshat: don't forget to run depmod -ae after unpacking the modules
  • [10:11:05] <akshat> koen: will do that. just one question, after I unpack the modules to the sd card, how will the "depmod" command know where to update the database
  • [10:11:16] <akshat> I would require a chroot, right?
  • [10:14:03] <koen> akshat: I'm 90% sure the depmod step isn't actually needed in this case
  • [10:14:22] <akshat> ok
  • [10:15:03] <akshat> if there are no additional modules then I surely can do without it
  • [10:15:26] <akshat> I'll try without depmod first
  • [10:15:36] <koen> -CONFIG_USB_GADGET_VBUS_DRAW=2
  • [10:15:36] <koen> +CONFIG_USB_GADGET_VBUS_DRAW=480
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  • [10:15:39] <koen> that's the change
  • [10:16:00] <koen> the gadget will now report that it needs more mA
  • [10:16:13] <koen> dunno if it works
  • [10:16:15] <akshat> ok. so that won't make or remove any modules, just change configs for them
  • [10:16:17] <koen> would be nice if it did :)
  • [10:16:25] <koen> right
  • [10:16:26] <akshat> will lwt you know in a few mins :)
  • [10:17:55] <akshat> *let
  • [10:20:58] <koen> another "do my homework for me" post on beagle ml
  • [10:21:30] <av500> comp.dsp calls them "stupidents"
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  • [10:24:14] <akshat> koen: that didn't work. :( (paste at -> http://pastebin.com/SNxf2W7a )
  • [10:26:30] <koen> ok, it was worth a try :)
  • [10:29:19] <akshat> yes
  • [10:29:39] <akshat> thanks for helping me
  • [10:30:06] <akshat> I hope this issue is fixed soon :)
  • [10:32:08] <akshat> koen: is 5.3V DC adapter safe ?
  • [10:32:26] <akshat> koen: that's the closest one to the specs that I can find
  • [10:32:41] <_koen_> no idea, sorry
  • [10:32:49] <akshat> _koen_: ok. no problem
  • [10:32:50] <av500> akshat: measure it under load
  • [10:32:51] <akshat> :)
  • [10:32:56] <av500> most of them are higher unloaded
  • [10:33:31] <akshat> av500: yes that's true but isn't the 5.2V rating for an unloaded supply?
  • [10:33:44] <akshat> I thought that was the case
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  • [11:07:46] <rs_> i use a csr bt module on a custom omap3 board. i find that sometimes - the bt module does not respond and i get Initialisation timeout when i try to read the chiprev
  • [11:08:08] <rs_> is anyone using the csr bt module and working successfully on omap
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  • [11:10:31] <nlCortana> hi, im trying to bitbake the gstreamer-ti recipe but it fails at: gst-plugins-bad_0.10.6.bb do_compile failed
  • [11:10:31] <nlCortana> in the log it says: gstx264enc.c: In function 'gst_x264_enc_init_encoder':
  • [11:10:31] <nlCortana> gstx264enc.c:597: error: 'x264_param_t' has no member named 'b_bframe_adaptive'
  • [11:10:31] <nlCortana> but i don't know what to do
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  • [11:21:25] <_koen_> nlCortana: why are you building 0.10.6 instead of 0.10.11?
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  • [11:33:24] <nlCortana> i??? still here :)
  • [11:34:02] <nlCortana> hmm, maybe because i couldn't get the setup scripts working
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  • [11:42:55] <ddd> Hey, ant_work, I still stick on Zoom2 keyboard, would you mind giving me hints about that? how to set it up in order to be able to enter "0..9" numbers. thank you
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  • [11:54:27] <ant_work> ddd: sorry but I don't know zoom2. I've seen its keymap seems to lack the numbers...In Google I found this link https://gforge.ti.com/gf/project/omapandroid/mailman/?_forum_action=ForumMessageBrowse&thread_id=317&action=ListThreads&mailman_id=22
  • [11:55:07] <ant_work> I suppose it follows the matrix keypad specs, but again, no real idea
  • [11:56:14] <ant_work> you should perhaps ask XorA
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  • [11:58:21] <av500> ant_work: yes, the numbers are on secondary functions, so not in the kbd driver...
  • [11:59:21] <ant_work> ok, is now supported by generic GPIO based matrix keypad driver
  • [11:59:51] <nlCortana> _koen_: how to configure OE to the newest version?
  • [12:00:01] <koen> it does that by default over here
  • [12:00:51] <nlCortana> but when i'm executing bitbake gstreamer-ti it automatically builds 10.6
  • [12:01:24] <ddd> thanks ant_work and av500, where to get the GPIO based matric keypad driver installed in zoom2? thank you all
  • [12:01:49] <ant_work> see the kernel config?
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  • [12:11:02] <aholler_> mc
  • [12:11:10] <aholler_> uups, sorry
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  • [12:12:22] <ddd> hey, XorA, do you have any hints about how to set up the secondary keys for ZOOM2 board? thank you
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  • [12:36:29] <ddd> ant_work, but see this patch: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-omap@vger.kernel.org/msg19345.html
  • [12:37:36] <ddd> which patch is correct?
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  • [12:42:28] <ddd> also, it looks like redefine the letters not for numbers, and also no secondary key definition.
  • [12:43:49] <ddd> i am not sure it will fix the problem or not
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  • [13:23:42] <maltanar> hi all!
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  • [13:28:18] <jkridner> hi
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  • [13:28:50] <av500> lo
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  • [13:29:15] <jkridner> buy!
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  • [13:35:21] <rs_> hi, i use a csr uart bt module and i often get "Initialization timed out" has anyone faced this before - is this related to flowcontrol?
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  • [14:38:42] <bobvader> Has anyone run a ventrilo server from the beagleboard running gnome
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  • [14:57:07] <drinkcat> hi all, I'm having some diskspace issues while building OE... Is there a way to get it to remove some temporary files?
  • [14:57:47] <_koen_> check local.conf for rm_work
  • [14:57:58] <drinkcat> it has it...
  • [14:58:01] <_koen_> that deletes the sources after the build
  • [14:58:02] <drinkcat> INHERIT += "rm_work"
  • [14:58:37] <drinkcat> yeah but I'm to a point where I cannot build any complete image without running out of diskspace...
  • [14:58:57] <drinkcat> and "console-image" seems to build stuff like gtk+-native which do not seem very useful to me...
  • [14:59:06] <mru> terabyte drives are cheap
  • [14:59:35] <av500> terably chep
  • [14:59:37] <av500> terably cheap
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  • [14:59:49] <akshat> Hello :)
  • [14:59:55] <akshat> koen: Hello
  • [15:00:02] <av500> and you dont need all that video files on your pc anyway....
  • [15:00:08] <akshat> av500: Hello
  • [15:00:43] <drinkcat> for example, in build/tmp-angstrom_2008_1/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/gcc-cross-4.3.3-r12.1, it seems to keep a 1.2G folder of temporary files ("gcc-4.3.3")
  • [15:00:44] <akshat> I finnaly got a DC adapter and got the beagle to boot fine :D
  • [15:01:16] <akshat> koen: just one problem. The usb-ethernet device worked fine on the demo image
  • [15:01:34] <_koen_> drinkcat: it should be safe to rm work/ after a build
  • [15:01:40] <akshat> but when I got an image from narcissus, I could only resolve names but not get any data
  • [15:01:45] <_koen_> drinkcat: rm_work doesn't catch everything, sadly
  • [15:02:17] <_koen_> akshat: edit /etc/network/interfaces and only leave the 2 loopback lines in
  • [15:02:26] <_koen_> (that's what I usually do)
  • [15:03:30] <akshat> koen: thanks. will do that
  • [15:05:08] <drinkcat> koen: for example, if I manage to finish building the "nano" target, I could remove the "work" directory, then start another target, like "console-image", without starting from scratch?
  • [15:07:01] <_koen_> no
  • [15:07:17] <_koen_> work if only for sources, the results end up in staging^H^H^^Hsysroots
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  • [15:09:05] <dl9pf> av500, yes - at least a demo image
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  • [15:09:26] <av500> dl9pf: :)
  • [15:09:35] <av500> it plays VP8?
  • [15:09:49] <dl9pf> never tried
  • [15:12:27] <akshat> koen: how is it that it works ok on the demo image . are they not built in the same manner? or you have made tweaks to it before releasing it?
  • [15:13:03] <_koen_> some demo images have that tweak, but not all
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  • [15:14:51] <akshat> koen: ok
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  • [15:16:35] <akshat> koen: thanks and ton. that worked like a charm :)
  • [15:16:40] <akshat> *thanks a ton
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  • [15:30:44] <powerpan> hello everyone
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  • [15:31:00] <powerpan> does anyone know how to set optimization while making kernel?
  • [15:31:14] <mru> don't futz with that
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  • [15:33:59] <hrw> http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/tmp/20100521_001.jpg - another scary picture from 'how hrw uses his beagleboards' series
  • [15:35:33] <av500> hrw: scary? why?
  • [15:35:33] <powerpan> mru, r u telling me that?
  • [15:35:38] <av500> yes
  • [15:36:34] <akshat> is the man page package available for beagleboard ?
  • [15:37:07] * mru likes the pic with the core memory
  • [15:37:14] <powerpan> not scary at all
  • [15:37:28] <hrw> av500: my previous one was called that way
  • [15:37:45] <powerpan> beagle board has 3 phy of USB 2.0 HOST
  • [15:37:59] <powerpan> but did not use it.
  • [15:37:59] <akshat> and if so then how does it render them as troff is not available
  • [15:38:00] <koen> is google down in germany?
  • [15:38:17] <powerpan> anybody knows the speed of MCS7830 usb 2.0 netcard?
  • [15:38:32] <powerpan> my speed is slow
  • [15:38:52] <powerpan> 2M while copying files, feeling too slow
  • [15:39:33] <powerpan> quit for a moment
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  • [15:40:10] <koen> I wonder why people who have a phd fail to google for the filename they need
  • [15:40:14] <av500> hrw: 1997
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  • [15:41:45] <powerpan> back again.
  • [15:42:01] <powerpan> still wanna ask how to set optimization while compiling kernel
  • [15:42:11] <hrw> powerpan: which driver it is using?
  • [15:42:21] <hrw> powerpan: kernel has proper optimization selected already
  • [15:42:43] <drinkcat> koen: is there a target that doesn't build and install stuff like pango and gnome-vfs? "console-image" builds those, I'm a bit confused...
  • [15:42:57] <koen> drinkcat: just deal with it
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  • [15:43:03] <powerpan> hrw, just wannt test some function
  • [15:43:09] <koen> drinkcat: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/cms/reducing-the-size-of-your-angstrom-rootfs-without-changing-the-buildsystem
  • [15:43:21] <powerpan> hrw: cause I use something need fast interrupt
  • [15:43:36] <mru> lol
  • [15:44:10] <powerpan> when I'm sending something via spi, sometimes buffer DMA did not callback intime, wanna try to turn O3 on and test
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  • [15:44:39] <powerpan> default is like optimize for size
  • [15:46:07] <av500> powerpan: the omap3 dma does not care for -O3
  • [15:46:17] <powerpan> the reason I wanna try is I met this problem in a MIPs platform, and set O3 on, the problem solved
  • [15:46:40] <hrw> http://www.flickr.com/photos/hrwandil/4506971517 - added notes
  • [15:47:10] <koen> av500: and gcc -noatime?
  • [15:47:14] <av500> hrw: but, does it run google TV?
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  • [15:47:23] <powerpan> av500: yes, u r right, but while one DMA buffer is over, an interrupt will be generated and tell the app to fill new buffer
  • [15:47:32] <av500> powerpan: sure
  • [15:47:40] <av500> use 2 buffers
  • [15:47:46] <av500> call them ping and pong
  • [15:48:02] <hrw> av500: ;D
  • [15:48:15] <drinkcat> koen: I don't get how the link is relevant to me, but nevermind, I just need a cross-compiler after all, and I'll use demo images. Thanks anyway.
  • [15:48:18] <powerpan> now I got the lack of data while DMA current buffer over and new buffer not ready
  • [15:48:34] <av500> ping and pong
  • [15:48:39] <powerpan> trace result is the interrupt respond time a little bit slow
  • [15:48:56] <powerpan> like 1xx us - 3xx us
  • [15:49:26] <koen> drinkcat: if you just need a cross-compiler: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/
  • [15:49:47] <av500> koen: I did not understand a word of your blog post, but then, that's me :)
  • [15:49:49] <powerpan> already use 4 buffers, but switch between buffers, also need the interrupt signal
  • [15:50:11] <av500> chained dma?
  • [15:50:41] <drinkcat> koen: ok I'll try these.
  • [15:50:47] <powerpan> just use keneral alloc 4 buffers
  • [15:51:26] <powerpan> av500: that's not the problem of buffer size but the speed to switch between buffers.
  • [15:51:51] <mru> changing compiler flags will not help you
  • [15:52:01] <mru> only a correct design will
  • [15:52:08] <av500> powerpan: i did not say it was buffer size
  • [15:52:21] <av500> have you looked at dma chaining?
  • [15:52:45] <powerpan> av500: buffer could be chain, is that means I could fill the buffer like a ring and DMA will switch between buffers itself once I initialized? that will be great
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  • [15:52:58] <av500> powerpan: yep
  • [15:53:10] <av500> this is how e.g audio dma works
  • [15:53:24] <mru> and interrupt every time it switches if you want
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  • [15:53:30] <av500> mru: yep
  • [15:53:38] <av500> even a 2 buffer chain is enough normally
  • [15:53:44] <av500> ye olde ping and pong
  • [15:54:03] <mru> occasionally you need pang too
  • [15:54:59] * koen looks at the libvpx buildsystem
  • [15:55:17] <av500> hehe
  • [15:55:22] <powerpan> av500, may I make it clearer? there will be 2 signal(interrupt) would be generate by DMA, when the FIFO of the hardware below a value, it will tell DMA to fill FIFO, or interrupt, and when current DMA buffer empties, it will generate another interrupt to tell driver to switch to another buffer
  • [15:55:24] <koen> it's not autotools, it looks like a bad copy of the ffmpeg configure, but with insanity added
  • [15:56:08] <av500> powerpan: no, it switched to the 2nd buffer automatically
  • [15:56:13] <mru> ffmpeg configure is not to be toyed with by shell novices
  • [15:56:16] <av500> thats what is called "chaining"
  • [15:56:16] <powerpan> if buffer callback interrupt could be done automaticlly by DMA itself, it doesn't need any CPU time to handle it
  • [15:56:22] <av500> thats what is called "chaining"
  • [15:56:48] <mru> don't people read manuals anymore?
  • [15:57:54] <koen> mru: what's that 'manual' and 'google' people keep talking about?
  • [15:58:11] <av500> koen: google is a pacman browser game
  • [15:58:19] <koen> ah
  • [15:58:22] <koen> I suck at pacman
  • [15:58:34] <av500> no wonder, you did not RTFM
  • [15:58:35] <mru> you need to enter the 3rd word on the 17th line on page 42 of the manual to unlock it
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  • [16:10:07] <powerpan> av500: thanks for your answer, I have a look at the DMA chapter, I understand this now, my old platform did not support this, so I did not use this mode while porting codes
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  • [16:12:17] <av500> powerpan: yes, omap3 is a nice platform
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  • [16:14:10] <powerpan> av500: still I have to suffer the old platform before all users switch to this platform
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  • [16:26:13] <koen> jkridner1: could you forward ranjiths cpuidle patch to my beagleboard account, my TI laptop is shutdown for the weekend?
  • [16:26:44] <koen> jkridner1: or push it to gitorious, that would be fine as well :)
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  • [16:47:03] <emeb> interesting... u-boot source has code in it to load FPGAs. Could conceivably configure the beagleFPGA board prior to booting Linux!
  • [16:48:13] <emeb> That would allow kernel to access virtual devices in the FPGA, or physical devices connected to the FPGA (ethernet, SD/MMC, etc)
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  • [17:12:12] <koen> av500: seems your 'savage' stuff didn't work
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  • [17:13:04] <Brokie> hola fellers
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  • [17:13:30] <Brokie> jkridner | ping
  • [17:15:24] <Cosmo`> hi chaps, does anyone use much Ubuntu on the beagleboard?
  • [17:15:50] <Brokie> I use it on the Kwikbyte
  • [17:16:06] <Cosmo`> i've just set my beagleboard up as a file server but it seems to be acting very strangely
  • [17:16:15] <Brokie> ok
  • [17:16:22] <Brokie> describe your issue
  • [17:16:28] <Cosmo`> once i've samba mounted it from my desktop PC, i'll stream some files across from it
  • [17:16:37] <Cosmo`> and then after a few minutes the network interface just seems to totally die
  • [17:16:51] <Cosmo`> i lose connectivity to it and the USB Ethernet seems to kill itself
  • [17:17:08] <Cosmo`> there also seems to be some other USB errors occuring
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  • [17:17:10] <Brokie> I'd love to help you
  • [17:17:24] <Cosmo`> it's alright i'm not expecting anything, i will get there eventually i'm sure
  • [17:17:29] <Brokie> but unfortunately, I still battle with these issues with Ubuntu
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  • [17:17:32] <Cosmo`> just wondered if it had been seen before
  • [17:17:41] <Brokie> perhaps you should look into another kernel for ubuntu
  • [17:17:42] <Cosmo`> on the beagle or just in general?
  • [17:17:51] <Brokie> MRU's kernel works wonderfully
  • [17:18:05] <Cosmo`> i'm not familiar with it
  • [17:18:12] <Cosmo`> this install is just from a ubuntu netinstall
  • [17:18:29] <Brokie> like I said
  • [17:18:33] <Brokie> Love to help...
  • [17:18:34] <Brokie> but
  • [17:18:36] <Brokie> ...
  • [17:18:37] <Cosmo`> ok, no probs
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  • [17:18:48] <Brokie> you need recent kernel from mru's repo
  • [17:18:54] <Brokie> and the matching modules
  • [17:19:39] <Brokie> add modules to the lib/modules folder, and replace the uImage file with the compiled mru kernel, all solved and beautiful
  • [17:19:54] <Cosmo`> alright, i'll look into it
  • [17:19:59] <Brokie> yep yep
  • [17:20:05] <Cosmo`> ta
  • [17:20:11] <Brokie> ti
  • [17:22:18] <rcn-ee> Cosmo`, (using uname -a) which ubuntu kernel are you using?
  • [17:23:53] <Cosmo`> give me a sec
  • [17:23:56] <Cosmo`> wires everywhere
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  • [17:27:48] <Cosmo`> 2.5.33-500-omap, rcn-ee
  • [17:28:37] <rcn-ee> okay... switch over to irc: ubuntu-arm that's their kernel.. ;)
  • [17:28:49] <Cosmo`> alright, thank you :)
  • [17:38:14] <koen> jkridner1: when you said "android patches" I wouldn't have imagined you meant "the 200 patches rowboat carries around"
  • [17:39:20] * koen waits for git gc to complete before giving a more accurate count
  • [17:40:10] <koen> 202
  • [17:40:17] <koen> that's with commit/revert combos
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  • [17:44:45] <_av500_> ah, a few patches...
  • [17:44:52] <_av500_> nothing serious
  • [17:44:57] <_av500_> please move along
  • [17:46:12] <_av500_> koen: funny how the non-savage ppl gave much better help
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  • [18:02:49] <BeagleBored> how do i get to my ".profile" file from my shell?
  • [18:02:57] <jkridner1> koen: did you think I was going to hand-pick them?
  • [18:03:20] <jkridner1> BeagleBored: vim ~/.profile
  • [18:03:48] <jkridner1> er, nano ~/.profile
  • [18:04:06] * jkridner1 realizes he was sending a noob to vim.
  • [18:04:11] <BeagleBored> thanks :)
  • [18:04:12] <cranberry> Hehe.
  • [18:04:15] <_av500_> jkridner1: got your ticket to linuxtag?
  • [18:04:20] <koen> jkridner1: actually, yes :)
  • [18:04:43] <koen> jkridner1: for example it reintroduces a buggy dss2 patch
  • [18:04:44] <_av500_> koen: so running android fixes the XM?
  • [18:05:12] <koen> _av500_: sure
  • [18:05:41] <_av500_> gg is so great :)
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  • [18:06:18] <jkridner1> I was far more selective in the past when I enabled Android myself, but I was expecting the Rowboat folks to know what they are doing.
  • [18:06:40] <jkridner1> are you going to revert it on xm-rowboat?
  • [18:06:48] <koen> no
  • [18:06:56] <koen> I'm going to have a look ast http://git.alwaysinnovating.com/cgit.cgi/ai.openembedded.dev/tree/recipes/linux/linux-omap-psp-2.6.32/omap3-touchbook
  • [18:07:03] <koen> that seems to only need ~100 patches
  • [18:07:16] <koen> we can cut that down by removing e.g. yaffs2
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  • [18:09:12] * koen is going to eat some texas ribs now
  • [18:09:16] <jkridner1> you thinking you'd put these patches in Angstrom, or just put them on the xm branch and pull that?
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  • [18:12:56] <BeagleBored> can /bin directories for script only be placed under the /home directory? or can they be placed in other subdirectories?
  • [18:13:30] <_av500_> BeagleBored: whereevr you want (within limits)
  • [18:13:57] <BeagleBored> do I have to change my path ?
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  • [18:19:18] <prpplague> koen: ping
  • [18:19:21] <prpplague> RobotGrrl: greetings
  • [18:19:30] <prpplague> RobotGrrl: get a beagle yet?
  • [18:24:37] <Cosmo`> hmm ... anyone know if you can force the USB OTG port on the beagle into host mode without shorting those pins?
  • [18:25:10] <Cosmo`> not really allowed to modify the board
  • [18:25:43] <koen> prpplague: pong
  • [18:26:09] <koen> jkridner1: I want to keep angstrom and the xM validation aligned
  • [18:26:45] <sakoman__> koen: any news on xM memory?
  • [18:26:58] <koen> sakoman__: still the same
  • [18:27:14] <koen> magic binary, no sources
  • [18:27:30] <koen> so that magic binary doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned
  • [18:27:40] <sakoman__> have you personally verified that the magic binary works?
  • [18:27:43] <koen> no
  • [18:27:48] <koen> I see no point in that
  • [18:27:53] <sakoman__> so it is just a rumor
  • [18:28:00] <koen> if it works we're still up shit creek, since we can't reproduce
  • [18:28:22] <sakoman__> I suppose one could dump registers and see what they are :-)
  • [18:29:14] <emeb> is the magic binary an x-loader, u-boot, or kernel?
  • [18:29:30] * sakoman__ shrugs
  • [18:29:42] <koen> kernel
  • [18:30:14] <emeb> interesting... I though all clocks & mem cfg were set up prior to starting the kernel.
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  • [18:31:57] <sakoman__> emeb: the kernel selectively changes *some* of them
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  • [18:33:14] <emeb> sakoman__: ah - that makes sense. Sounds like a reg dump would be helpful.
  • [18:33:38] <sakoman__> perhaps, but there are a *lot* of registers!
  • [18:34:24] <emeb> ... and probably a lot of differences that don't affect this issue. Sorting through the results would be a pain.
  • [18:35:30] <jkridner1> koen: by "aligned" do you mean that Angstrom still has the PSP tree as where you pull, but all the patches are the same?
  • [18:35:46] <sakoman__> yup, and when I tried to recreate the kernel based upon the changes that allegedly went into the magic binary it made absolutely no difference for me
  • [18:36:14] <koen> jkridner1: I mean that 'bitbake virtual/kernel' in OE builds the same as the validation repo
  • [18:36:17] <emeb> sounds like a job for a summer intern. I know - a GSoC project "Find the xM memory bug". :P
  • [18:36:34] <koen> outsource to india, much cheaper
  • [18:36:43] <Brokie> geez
  • [18:36:48] <Brokie> kinda like M$
  • [18:37:15] <emeb> sakoman__: so someone told you what the changes were but didn't show you source?
  • [18:37:23] <sakoman__> yes
  • [18:37:54] <emeb> gaaahh - why not just the source? Sekrit?
  • [18:38:04] * sakoman__ shrugs
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  • [18:39:10] <Brokie> what "Magic Binary"??
  • [18:39:28] <emeb> Brokie: a kernel for xM that doesn't suffer memory corruption
  • [18:39:35] <koen> the one jkridner1 keeps handing out, violating the GPL
  • [18:39:46] <koen> please download it and invoke GPL
  • [18:39:47] <Brokie> xM?
  • [18:39:54] <emeb> next gen beagle
  • [18:40:03] <Brokie> umm
  • [18:40:15] <emeb> are you new here? :)
  • [18:40:16] <Brokie> is there a DL location for the binary?
  • [18:40:30] * emeb knows Brokie is not new
  • [18:40:36] <Brokie> up yers, yes and I'll have you know I'll always be new here
  • [18:41:36] <Brokie> describe the "memory corruption issue" please
  • [18:41:59] <emeb> random bit flips in DRAM
  • [18:42:14] <Brokie> sounds like a clock issue
  • [18:42:19] <emeb> generally seen during heavy load
  • [18:42:29] <emeb> that's suspected
  • [18:42:30] <Brokie> or a cache corruption issue
  • [18:42:36] <emeb> as is power / temp
  • [18:42:58] <Brokie> power / temp would not explain how a binary can fix it
  • [18:43:24] <emeb> unless binary has different clock and/or delay settings, which it probably does
  • [18:43:25] <koen> if you disable any pm it will not clock up to 1ghz
  • [18:43:28] <koen> but stay at 500
  • [18:43:37] <Brokie> power / temp issues are hardware, while a kernel fix implies its a software issue, unless the software can configure properly the hardware for power related issues
  • [18:44:02] <Brokie> temp issues would def be power related
  • [18:44:39] <Brokie> so, who do I send my 1080p screenshot to?
  • [18:44:42] <Brokie> lol
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  • [18:45:02] <emeb> flickr
  • [18:45:17] <emeb> imagebin
  • [18:45:22] <Brokie> do that later tonight
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  • [18:45:53] <Brokie> I have half clk 1080p working beautifully on kwikbyte
  • [18:47:31] <Brokie> anyone have this kernel binary on hand?
  • [18:47:39] <Brokie> I would like to look at the init stage
  • [18:48:44] <emeb> do you have an xM?
  • [18:48:58] <emeb> or do you rev. eng the binary by inspection?
  • [18:49:10] <Brokie> rev. eng?
  • [18:49:22] <emeb> reverse engineer
  • [18:49:27] <Brokie> reverse engineer
  • [18:49:29] <Brokie> of course
  • [18:49:52] * emeb used to to that on MSDOS binaries
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  • [18:50:29] <Brokie> I have ida pro, and the Tampon A8 processor parser
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  • [18:52:45] <koen> Brokie: 1080p24 also works fine on beagle, but it's a huge drain on memory bw
  • [18:53:58] <Brokie> koen: so what you are saying is, my half clock hack was a waste of time, and when I was told the 720p HD limitation was a hardware limitation, I was lied to?
  • [18:54:12] <koen> yes
  • [18:54:23] <Brokie> 3 weeks, I will never get back
  • [18:54:24] <Brokie> ...
  • [18:54:25] <koen> the stock linux driver supports 1080p24 just fine
  • [18:54:36] <koen> provided you have ES3.x silicon
  • [18:54:53] <koen> ES2.x might have problems with register widths
  • [18:55:03] <Brokie> I have a Kwikbyte bb2, based on Rev Bx beagle
  • [18:55:29] <koen> I did 1080p24 on a b6 iirc
  • [18:55:38] <Brokie> b3 here... sniffle
  • [18:55:43] <Brokie> 500Mhz
  • [18:56:16] <Brokie> it vomits on page copies, if I try to use more than 16 bytes per clock
  • [18:58:32] <Brokie> I read that was resolved in later revs of the silicon
  • [18:59:44] <emeb> u-boot reports the silicon rev on startup: OMAP3530-GP ES3.0, CPU-OPP2, L3-165MHz, Max clock-600Mhz
  • [18:59:48] <Brokie> DM373x looks like a nice toy
  • [19:00:21] <Brokie> unfortunately I dont have serial access atm
  • [19:01:26] <Brokie> is the dm3730 based on the 3530 in most ways?
  • [19:01:38] <Brokie> clock speed higher?
  • [19:03:35] <Brokie> Someone buzz me when Jason gets back
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  • [19:11:32] <Brokie> who smoked crack before pricing the am3517 evm?
  • [19:12:32] <Brokie> the snapdragon evm is less than that
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  • [19:14:37] <Brokie> the AM3517 is $24 for a single, $17 is I buy a reel, the additional components amount to less than $45, and the evm price is $999?
  • [19:15:04] <Brokie> someone needs a new job... wonderful way to induce development on a foreign platform...
  • [19:15:08] <Brokie> Good job TI
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  • [19:46:31] <_av500_> Brokie: i have a 20k$ snapdragon evm...
  • [19:47:30] <jkridner1> Brokie: best to just ping jkridner to get my attention.
  • [19:47:47] <jkridner1> Brokie: DM3730 is most similar to OMAP3630.
  • [19:47:48] <_av500_> ping jkridner1
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  • [21:02:51] <Cosmo`> hmm
  • [21:03:02] <Cosmo`> there's got to be a way to force the USB OTG port into host mode
  • [21:03:39] <Cosmo`> any ideas?
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  • [21:05:42] <prpplague> Brokie: hehe have you looked at the price of the blaze?
  • [21:12:03] <_av500_> Cosmo`: kernel config
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  • [21:13:27] <Brokie> jkridner I pinged you 4 hours ago
  • [21:13:34] <Cosmo`> right ... in that case i need to go and work out how to build a custom ubuntu omap kernel
  • [21:14:05] <Brokie> I have a $450 snapdragon evm
  • [21:15:30] <Brokie> the point was not why is it so much, but that a vendor specific evm, meant to induce development, should not be 3x the cost of manufacture, its a market tool for developers, you want developers to make stuff on your crap, chase them away with the price is not a good way to start
  • [21:16:04] <Brokie> there are many beagle developers, because the beagleboard is $150
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  • [21:16:34] <Brokie> the am3715 evm costs less to fabricate than the beagleboard
  • [21:16:56] <Brokie> Cosmo
  • [21:17:09] <Brokie> do you want to force Host mode from software?
  • [21:17:30] <_av500_> Brokie: bb sold 10k
  • [21:17:35] <Brokie> when you start the menuconfig for the kernel compile, there is an option to use OTG as host
  • [21:17:39] <_av500_> that evm will not sell 1000
  • [21:17:44] <Cosmo`> yes that's what i want to do Brokie
  • [21:17:48] <Brokie> when you start the menuconfig for the kernel compile, there is an option to use OTG as host
  • [21:17:59] <Cosmo`> yeah i see what you're saying, i just don't know where to get the kernel sources for
  • [21:18:03] <Brokie> lol
  • [21:18:08] <Cosmo`> from *
  • [21:18:09] <Cosmo`> even
  • [21:18:09] <Brokie> research brother
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  • [21:18:13] <Cosmo`> yeah i'm trying, heh
  • [21:18:19] <Brokie> second
  • [21:18:34] <Cosmo`> because i also need to learn how to compile the kernel, i have never done it on debian/ubuntu before, only gentoo
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  • [21:23:12] <Brokie> Cosmo
  • [21:23:30] <Brokie> Cosmo`, Lookie thar... http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#Linux_kernel
  • [21:23:57] <Cosmo`> nice one
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  • [21:26:33] <Cosmo`> to be honest
  • [21:26:45] <Cosmo`> i think i will just buy a USB Mini A -> USB Mini B cable instead
  • [21:27:59] <Cosmo`> it seems like that's 100x easier than trying to completely recompile the beagleboard kernel
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  • [21:28:09] <aholler> git clone kernel; cd linux; make menuconfig; make uImage modules modules_install; cp arch/arm/boot/uImage wherever
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  • [21:28:41] <aholler> the same on every linux, every hw, if you aren't compiling cross
  • [21:29:42] <aholler> maybe a make defconfig would be a good idea, or just copy a config from another kernel and do a make oldconfig
  • [21:30:02] <aholler> (before invoking make menuconfig)
  • [21:30:15] <Cosmo`> damn, apt doesn't want to install git
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  • [21:34:58] <Crofton|work> arg
  • [21:39:24] <_av500_> argc or argv?
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  • [22:05:45] <Cosmo`> hold on
  • [22:05:48] <Cosmo`> i've got a good idea
  • [22:05:52] <Cosmo`> i can stick a blob of solder on J6
  • [22:06:04] <Cosmo`> underneath the OTG port
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  • [22:07:56] <_av500_> Cosmo`: sre
  • [22:07:58] <_av500_> sure
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  • [22:10:05] <Cosmo`> knew my soldering iron would come in handy
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  • [22:10:31] <_av500_> hold it at the cold end
  • [22:11:35] <Cosmo`> lol
  • [22:11:38] <Cosmo`> i've done it, let's see if it works
  • [22:14:52] <Cosmo`> ok, well, it booted up
  • [22:15:01] <Cosmo`> now "cat mode" reports a_idle
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  • [22:41:02] <Cosmo`> right then
  • [22:41:19] <Cosmo`> i guess it's still not working because i can't plug into the right connectors on the hub ...
  • [22:41:38] <Cosmo`> so i guess i still need a USB Mini-B Male to USB Female
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  • [22:51:07] <cathywicks> digikey ROCKS!
  • [22:51:17] <cathywicks> Notice to Google Summer of Code Students
  • [22:51:51] <ds2> except for the shipping charges ;)
  • [22:52:10] <_av500_> Cosmo`: might as well get mini-A to A
  • [22:52:20] <Cosmo`> well the thing is
  • [22:52:23] <cathywicks> We have re-shipped order not rec'd yet via Digikey and I will send each of you an order to track
  • [22:52:31] <Cosmo`> it's likely easier for me to find a mini-b to A
  • [22:52:34] <Cosmo`> than a mini-a to A
  • [22:53:10] <cathywicks> on the shipping charges - Digikey shipped order over $100 to 3 european countries for zero shipping cost today
  • [22:53:31] <Cosmo`> mini-b to A should be everywhere
  • [22:53:35] <_av500_> cathywicks: i never payed bb shipping to .de :)
  • [22:54:00] <_av500_> cathywicks: but beware, they might have to pay taxes...
  • [22:54:11] <_av500_> they=receivers
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  • [22:54:20] <ds2> Mmmmm vats of VAT
  • [22:54:24] <cathywicks> yes, I was able to ship to sweden, switz and germ for zero ship cost :)
  • [22:54:46] <_av500_> i payed ~30Euro last time for taxes
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  • [22:54:59] <_av500_> digikey does not cover that
  • [22:55:04] <djlewis_> Goback is evil . . .
  • [22:55:14] <cathywicks> good question on the VAT - does anyone know the VAT amt for beagle to come to those countries?
  • [22:55:29] <_av500_> ~30 to .de iirc
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  • [23:25:14] <cathywicks> thanks for the info - nite all
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