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  • [00:16:33] <Brokie> look at the date?
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  • [00:35:19] <Brokie> ds2, the internets are broken... what did you do?
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  • [02:25:46] <jkridner> Brokie: catching up from earlier. That's pretty cool.
  • [02:27:59] <wroberts1> anybody running eclair?
  • [02:29:26] <tdh2002> Hi everyone!
  • [02:29:33] <tdh2002> have a good weekend
  • [02:29:37] <jkridner> hi tdh2002.
  • [02:30:03] <tdh2002> A new week start!
  • [02:30:11] <jkridner> too many of my hours were spent working this weekend for my taste.... and not just hobbying on the BB.
  • [02:30:31] <jkridner> I'm having a bit of fun right now trying to get the touchscreen working on the Xenarc display with the BeagleBoard.
  • [02:31:03] <wroberts1> jkridner: i ordered a devkit8000 because i thought that thing was too expensive
  • [02:31:08] * jkridner wonders if calibrateproto is as good as Calibrate mentioned at http://elinux.org/Xenarc_USB_touchscreen_for_Beagleboard/OMAP3_EVM
  • [02:31:18] <jkridner> indeed, it is overpriced...
  • [02:31:28] <jkridner> and the price has gone up, as I think lots of people have bought them.
  • [02:31:43] <tdh2002> wroberts1:where do you but devkit?
  • [02:31:47] <jkridner> you can get $99 DVI-D monitors some places though...
  • [02:31:52] <jkridner> just not with touchscreen.
  • [02:32:13] <jkridner> _koen_ was pointing me to a 230euro 22" monitor with touchscreen.
  • [02:32:17] <jkridner> that's not too bad.
  • [02:32:30] <wroberts1> tdh2002: from embedinfo.com (but it ships from china)
  • [02:33:43] <tdh2002> out company buy 2 pic devkit's core boards
  • [02:33:51] <tdh2002> our company buy 2 pic devkit's core boards
  • [02:34:47] <tdh2002> wroberts1:how much do you buy it ?
  • [02:34:53] <wroberts1> 7" lcd adds $130 to the $149 board
  • [02:36:21] <DanaG> oh yeah, with the touchscreen from specialcomp.com, how do you use it?
  • [02:36:32] <DanaG> is omapdss smart enough to figure out the screen resolution, and all that?
  • [02:37:18] <tdh2002> wroberts1:how much is the freight
  • [02:37:30] <wroberts1> $54
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  • [02:38:22] <tdh2002> (*_*) very expensive!
  • [02:38:34] <wroberts1> i bought one because 0xdroid announced support
  • [02:39:32] <tdh2002> it seems all omap3530 boards support oxdroid~
  • [02:43:04] <muriani> I need to get proper networking support in 0xdroid
  • [02:43:23] <muriani> this usb host networking stuff is poo
  • [02:45:20] <muriani> wroberts1: I have embinux's eclair running on beagle
  • [02:45:36] <muriani> slow video though, haven't got the accelerated video going yet
  • [02:46:12] <wroberts1> i wonder if there are any open-source powervr/sgx implementation
  • [02:46:28] <muriani> not to my knowledge
  • [02:46:45] <wroberts1> i wonder if its possible to steal driver from motorola droid phone
  • [02:47:16] <muriani> it's likely using the currently available blob.
  • [02:47:31] <muriani> you can get it going with the TI drivers, from what I understand
  • [02:48:17] <jkridner> _koen_: it looks like xf86-input-evtouch needs to be rebuilt.
  • [02:48:51] <wroberts1> rowboat has also put up eclair, but its shit right now
  • [02:49:22] <muriani> anyhoo, I'm out for the night. See you guys in the morning.
  • [02:49:25] <muriani> *poof*
  • [02:49:35] <Brokie> lol
  • [02:49:39] <Brokie> *pood*
  • [02:50:27] * mru is mostly pleased with nexus
  • [02:50:55] <wroberts1> ah yes, i've had an N1 for a week or so
  • [02:51:22] <thurbad> what do you do if opkg "can not obtain an administrative lock"?
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  • [02:56:23] <slmodo> hello everyone
  • [02:57:00] <slmodo> I was wondering what you guys are using for jtagging the beagleboard?
  • [02:57:26] <mru> most of us don't need to jtag it
  • [02:57:55] <slmodo> well i have an issue where one of the dev's have made the beagle board unuseable
  • [02:58:06] <mru> impossible
  • [02:58:25] <mru> unless they found a way of erasing ROM
  • [02:58:30] <slmodo> yes
  • [02:58:43] <thurbad> load up an SD with recodery utils on it
  • [02:58:47] <wroberts1> mru: cyanogenmod is good for nexus one
  • [02:59:03] <mru> what does that do?
  • [02:59:16] <slmodo> doesn't it need uboot or some type of boot loader?
  • [02:59:22] <mru> no
  • [02:59:40] <djlewis> thurbad: sounds like another instance of opkg is running
  • [02:59:40] <wroberts1> mru: cyanogen has rebuild android with new kernel and android goodies
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  • [03:00:14] <thurbad> I need to do that with one of my boards.. unfortunately the SD slot also broke a week after getting it
  • [03:00:30] <thurbad> djlewis, nope
  • [03:01:04] <thurbad> I can install other stuf just can't specify an offline root for mplayer's ipks
  • [03:01:50] <GrizzlyAdams> slmodo: format a fresh sd card, load the mlo and uboot onto it, if you can't make that work, use the serial port to upload uboot, then uboot, and erase the flash
  • [03:02:08] <slmodo> ok
  • [03:02:30] <GrizzlyAdams> (i have gotten to a point where mlo / uboot were attempting to boot from flash, even when holding the user button)
  • [03:03:02] <slmodo> uboot is no longer on the nand
  • [03:03:11] <slmodo> sorry rom
  • [03:03:15] <GrizzlyAdams> elinux wiki and the beagleboard google project wiki
  • [03:03:37] <thurbad> you were right the first time :)
  • [03:03:49] <GrizzlyAdams> rom is the internal bootloader inside the omap itself which is impossible to erase without either A: a big power surge, or B: a FIB
  • [03:03:56] <slmodo> ok
  • [03:04:10] <slmodo> well of course as you can see i'm still new to this so i'm working through it
  • [03:04:15] <thurbad> flash is the same thing as nand in the case of the beagleboard
  • [03:04:19] <slmodo> ok
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  • [03:04:26] <slmodo> thanks
  • [03:05:37] <thurbad> hmm, if I move the ipks to root and specify the full filename, I get further.. but it still fails the md5sum check
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  • [03:11:39] <tdh2002> Is there someone know how to let angstrom support Chinese?
  • [03:15:49] <thurbad> have you tried installing the locale?
  • [03:22:14] <tdh2002> Last week i fail in building angstom!
  • [03:22:29] <tdh2002> bak luck~_~
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  • [05:19:30] <venkat> is anybody knows LTP project?
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  • [05:21:07] <SaBh> Hello,Am facing problems in loading the Linux Kernel onto the beagleboard.
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  • [05:21:57] <venkat> anybody knows LTP?
  • [05:21:58] <SaBh> I get message like request_module :: runaway loop modprobe binfmt-ffff
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  • [05:22:45] <SaBh> Am using only uboot.scr & uImage,do I need to use ramdiskfs also?
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  • [08:08:56] <eFfeM> ~log
  • [08:09:14] <eFfeM> ah this bot does not do thise
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  • [09:19:02] <hrw> morning
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  • [09:27:14] <hrw> someone know status of DSS2 merging?
  • [09:30:53] <av500> its in mainline, no?
  • [09:32:59] <_koen_> hrw: .33 should have it
  • [09:33:16] <_koen_> hrw: but no-one submitted beagleboard support for it yet
  • [09:34:47] <hrw> _koen_: I use bug2.0 as omap3 main platform now
  • [09:35:31] <hrw> with 2.6.31 now
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  • [09:41:12] <hrw> koen: how stable 2.6.32-psp is?
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  • [09:57:50] <siji> hi all
  • [09:57:55] <siji> am hving some basic qery
  • [09:57:57] <siji> query
  • [09:58:10] <hrw> "SELECT * FROM table" one?
  • [09:58:18] <siji> i am hving Ti 's 3.00.09 SD K
  • [09:58:21] <siji> :)
  • [09:58:36] <siji> will it included gles 1.1
  • [09:58:39] <siji> version too?
  • [09:58:56] * hrw has no idea
  • [09:59:17] <siji> ok
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  • [10:06:18] <siji> _koen_, any idea ?
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  • [10:10:04] <_koen_> .09 is old
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  • [10:12:48] <siji> ok
  • [10:13:11] <siji> _koen_,btw will it includes opengles 1.1 too ?
  • [10:13:17] <siji> or the latest version ?
  • [10:14:38] <siji> cose am using clutter 0.8 for our Application development in beagle
  • [10:14:41] <_koen_> bot 1.1 and 2.0 are supported for gles
  • [10:15:23] <siji> u mean 1.1 libraries also there with TI's SDK
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  • [10:46:31] <Brokie> _koen_
  • [10:46:39] <Brokie> I'm working on a recipe...
  • [10:46:52] <Brokie> How to call a script in the build directory?
  • [10:46:58] <Brokie> like...
  • [10:47:05] <Brokie> ./bootstrap.sh
  • [10:47:22] <Brokie> ??
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  • [11:15:05] <hrw> 1.4MB has 001-394 combined patch for vim7.2
  • [11:15:24] <av500> ?
  • [11:16:07] <hrw> ops, wrong channel
  • [11:16:31] <jkridner> good morning all
  • [11:16:37] <hrw> hi jkridner
  • [11:16:50] <jkridner> I'm still looking for contributions to http://tinyurl.com/bbgsoc.
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  • [11:40:44] <_koen_> jkridner: the narcissus manifest looks like this now: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/narcissus/deploy/beagleboard/test-image-manifest.html
  • [11:45:27] <Crofton|work> jkridner, did you get a SoC appliation in?
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  • [11:59:46] <jkridner> Crofton|work: yes, but the ideas page still needs work.
  • [12:00:08] <jkridner> I tried to focus on just a handful of projects and go into greater depth, but didn't get there.
  • [12:07:29] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [12:07:35] <Crofton|work> it does look better though
  • [12:07:52] <Crofton|work> I suspect it ill be very competetive
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  • [12:08:46] <Crofton|work> Cathy needs to use the list to motivate uni's to do interesting projects regardless :)
  • [12:09:03] <Crofton|work> you can always have the TI SoC
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  • [12:17:47] <jkridner> Crofton|work: just need $$$
  • [12:17:57] <jkridner> and HH:MM.
  • [12:19:02] <jkridner> _koen_: I love the addition of the licenses.
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  • [12:19:35] <jkridner> is there a single SRC_URI for every package?
  • [12:20:05] <jkridner> What license is on all the patches in OE?
  • [12:20:22] <jkridner> GPLv2?
  • [12:21:10] <jkridner> auditing all of these licenses is going to be fun. :-|
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  • [12:24:26] <mm_> Hello to all!
  • [12:25:06] <_koen_> jkridner: the patches are supposed to have the same license as the source they are patching
  • [12:25:17] <Brokie> hello _koen_
  • [12:25:18] <mm_> Is there someone to ask a clarification?
  • [12:25:33] <Brokie> I'm making my first recipe today
  • [12:25:43] <Brokie> we'll see how it goes
  • [12:25:54] <jkridner> _koen_: what about he SRC_URI?
  • [12:26:06] <Crofton|work> patches usually follow the main packages license in my opinion
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  • [12:26:15] <Crofton|work> most do not have explicit license info
  • [12:26:35] * Crofton|work hears an echo
  • [12:26:51] <mm_> I would try a chinese clone of Beagleboard: Devkit8000! Someone has some feedback for this board?
  • [12:27:05] <Crofton|work> mm_, I haven't seen one
  • [12:27:10] <jkridner> Crofton|work: no, I meant is there ever more than one SRC_URI to a package?
  • [12:27:20] <jkridner> I know there can be several file:/// references and patches....
  • [12:27:42] <_koen_> there's only one SRC_URI
  • [12:28:13] <Crofton|work> things can be appended to it
  • [12:28:33] <jkridner> but, I wonder if we can give essentially two links for every project and be done with pointing to the sources, though we are still planning on somehow delivering the source in our target rootfs for the BeagleBoard-xM.
  • [12:28:40] <_koen_> Crofton|work: but everything ends up in the Source: field in the resulting package
  • [12:29:17] <_koen_> jkridner: I have a call with the OSRB scheduled to talk about that a bit
  • [12:31:08] <jkridner> Brokie: did you find ${S}?
  • [12:31:40] <Brokie> yep
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  • [12:31:48] <Brokie> now I have to make libGLEW
  • [12:31:51] <Brokie> ...
  • [12:31:59] <Crofton|work> _koen_, I lack context, scanning recipes or some derived field
  • [12:32:02] <Brokie> and it appears others have had trouble with it
  • [12:32:03] <jkridner> Brokie: invoking a script is as simple as calling it in the right phase: do_compile or whatever. and I guess you might have seen http://docs.openembedded.org/usermanual/html/recipes_sources.html.
  • [12:32:15] <Brokie> yep
  • [12:32:19] <Brokie> its been my bible
  • [12:32:52] <jkridner> Crofton|work: _koen_ is working on some code to produce a manifest...
  • [12:33:18] <Crofton|work> yeah, he showed me a page
  • [12:33:20] <jkridner> for us to ship Angstrom on the BeagleBoard-xM, there needs to be a list of all the licenses used as well as being compliant to those licenses.
  • [12:33:30] <jkridner> most of the licenses require us to provide the source.
  • [12:33:34] <Crofton|work> yeah, great idea
  • [12:33:50] <Crofton|work> in this case, best just to provide all sources :)
  • [12:34:08] <jkridner> _koen_: do you have any idea what mechanism will be used to create the source .ipks? or would it just be done with a script?
  • [12:34:18] <jkridner> indeed, but in what form?
  • [12:34:25] <jkridner> patched?
  • [12:34:30] <Crofton|work> giant directory :)
  • [12:34:40] <Crofton|work> the licenses do not say it has to be easy :)
  • [12:35:05] <jkridner> can we just capture the OE work directory and tar it? (seems like that could get ugly and have a lot of wasted space with extra binaries).
  • [12:35:35] <jkridner> would be nice if there was some compression on all that text that would be sitting in the rootfs.
  • [12:35:41] <Crofton|work> I think there are lots of ways to do it
  • [12:36:00] <Crofton|work> I would provide the OE tree and the sources
  • [12:36:12] <Crofton|work> that gets you sources, patches, and how they are combined
  • [12:36:14] <_koen_> jkridner, Crofton|work: I was thinking about http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/classes/sourcepkg.bbclass
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  • [12:36:25] <jkridner> any git expert here know how to list all of the files that are pending being touched in a merge/rebase?
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  • [12:36:52] <Crofton|work> _roger_, gm
  • [12:36:58] <jkridner> _koen_: are we committing to having that stick around? I thought that was what you said was a temporary hack.
  • [12:37:37] <_koen_> jkridner: you're confusing that with PACKAGES =+ "${PN}-sourcetree"
  • [12:38:13] <jkridner> confusing the two assumes that I knew any details of either of them. :)
  • [12:38:59] <jkridner> FYI, I believe there are some BeagleBoard classes going on at ICASSP today.
  • [12:39:20] <Crofton|work> hmm, I need to send you guys a paper or two from the workshop I was at
  • [12:39:26] <_koen_> jkridner: did gerald should you the sw they are going to run?
  • [12:39:44] <_koen_> jkridner: _roger_ and I made a nice GNOME image with gst-ti and sgx stuff integrated
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  • [12:46:34] <jkridner> _koen_: cool. no, I didn't see it.
  • [12:47:04] <jkridner> what is different with that image vs. what is pre-built in Narcissus?
  • [12:47:19] * jkridner looks back at my attempts to rebuild the evtouch Xorg driver.
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  • [12:47:43] <jkridner> oh, right, I started a rebase for some reason and can't remember what conflicts I have to merge.
  • [12:47:59] * jkridner doesn't understand why there are conflicts in my attempt to rebase.
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  • [12:53:13] <jkridner> 'git diff' helped. strange, I thought last night that it didn't.
  • [12:53:30] <jkridner> my rebase is now chugging along nicely.
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  • [12:59:13] <srljjsj> Hi, which is the best distribution to support FLASH?
  • [13:00:16] <jkridner> non-volatile storage or Adobe?
  • [13:00:27] <srljjsj> Adobe
  • [13:00:40] <Crofton|work> rofl
  • [13:00:41] <jkridner> if you want Adobe Flash, you are probably best of going with a commercial distribution.
  • [13:01:04] <jkridner> you can get SWFDEC and GNASH support in several distros.
  • [13:01:08] <Crofton|work> flash is dead, Steve Jobs said so
  • [13:02:11] <buZz> there is some guy fixing flash on omap
  • [13:02:20] <buZz> by stealing binaries ;)
  • [13:02:32] <jkridner> yeah, :(.
  • [13:02:41] <srljjsj> but I think if I can use BB to watch youtobe, It's great :)
  • [13:02:41] <buZz> see http://myigep.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=415
  • [13:02:45] <jkridner> lots of commercial vendors provide flash for OMAP3.
  • [13:02:49] <buZz> srljjsj: check that link
  • [13:02:57] <srljjsj> Thx
  • [13:03:46] <jkridner> I believe YouTube has started to support the Video tag, which should eventually replace Flash.
  • [13:04:09] <buZz> jkridner: yeah, http://www.youtube.com/html5
  • [13:04:25] <jkridner> I'd rather recommend people reject Adobe software than to pirate Adobe software.
  • [13:05:01] <buZz> well i have no problems with whatever software ppl want to run on their hardware, it's their choice
  • [13:08:17] * XorA has been watching youtube without flash for years
  • [13:08:46] <jkridner> _koen_: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom's source-me.txt seems to want to put 'bitbake' under the openembedded git tree.
  • [13:08:59] <buZz> man, this html5 beta sux, doesnt even support ogg video :)
  • [13:09:01] <jkridner> _koen_: it also lacks a download of bitbake.
  • [13:09:02] <XorA> jkridner: that is where it is for stable
  • [13:09:15] <jkridner> ah.
  • [13:09:21] <XorA> jkridner: stable has the required bitbake as part of the repo
  • [13:09:24] * jkridner self-alters for unstable then.
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  • [13:29:38] <srljjsj> firefox support html5 but not support H264?
  • [13:30:15] <hrw> patents?
  • [13:30:33] <srljjsj> T_T
  • [13:30:35] <av500> ph34r of patents
  • [13:31:53] <av500> and unwillingness to have pluggable codec
  • [13:31:56] <av500> +s
  • [13:33:20] <srljjsj> so we couldn't use it to watch http://www.youtube.com/html5 forever?
  • [13:33:38] <av500> forever?
  • [13:33:44] <av500> I cant want utube for 10minutes...
  • [13:34:16] <srljjsj> ....
  • [13:36:09] <XorA> greasemonkey + totem make such a cooler solution :-)
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  • [13:40:45] <buZz> if w3c will accept h264 as option for html5 it will surely be supported by firefox
  • [13:41:08] <av500> w3c did not accept anything
  • [13:41:18] <av500> it is <video>, same as <image>
  • [13:41:20] <buZz> exactly, they are still undecided
  • [13:41:24] <av500> no codec mandated at all
  • [13:41:33] <av500> no, I dont think they will *decide*
  • [13:41:51] <buZz> hehe yeah, they aren't very good in this
  • [13:42:02] <av500> I think they decided to not decide
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  • [13:47:52] <buZz> [ 11.898315] omapfb omapfb: illegal display bpp
  • [13:47:56] <buZz> arg
  • [13:48:15] <buZz> you would assume omapfb.mode=tv:ntsc lets it pick a supported bpp
  • [13:49:24] * buZz tries without omapfb.mode
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  • [14:02:54] <anunakin> how can I change screen resolution after boot?
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  • [14:08:39] <jkridner> anunakin: I believe it is possible to poke the DSS settings using /sys/devices/omapdss
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  • [14:09:37] <yann361> is someone use i2c2 and rtc0 ?
  • [14:09:51] <buZz> does this look like a DSS2 driver that is correctly outputting to SVideo ? http://etc.servehttp.com/dmesg_with_omapdssdebug
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  • [14:10:37] <PierrotLafouine> hi, my first time chat, anybody hear me ?
  • [14:10:48] <av500> no :)
  • [14:11:04] <PierrotLafouine> lol, thanks, want to validate my setup
  • [14:11:39] <jkridner> anunakin: documentation is in the kernel Documentation/arm/OMAP/DSS file (http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/arm/OMAP/DSS)
  • [14:12:11] <jkridner> welcome to #beagle PierrotLafouine!
  • [14:12:25] <PierrotLafouine> thanks,
  • [14:12:49] <PierrotLafouine> Is there someone know where I can get lateast U-Boot source code ?
  • [14:13:17] <PierrotLafouine> I'm on wiki for Beagleboard, links seams to be broken
  • [14:13:58] <adj> PierrotLafouine: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#U-Boot
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  • [14:14:46] <PierrotLafouine> thanks adj
  • [14:15:11] <jkridner> which wiki had a broken link?
  • [14:16:05] <jkridner> btw, the mainline doesn't have C4 support yet. I believe khasim submitted patches on the mailing list, but they haven't been accepted yet.
  • [14:16:47] <adj> hopefully they will be accepted soon
  • [14:16:58] <_koen_> jkridner: sakoman is preparing beagle patches as well, so can khasim coordinate with him?
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  • [14:25:17] <PierrotLafouine> I should have said outdated links : http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleSourceCode
  • [14:26:10] <PierrotLafouine> I feel like there are too many spread info on the web for beagle board. I feel kinda lost
  • [14:27:17] <buZz> welcome to the 21th century ;)
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  • [14:28:14] <jkridner> my apologies. C4 launch was a bit weak and I'm personally thinking a lot more about the -xM right now, but will try to get to updating the code.google.com site to contain less inaccurate information.
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  • [14:28:41] <sakoman_> jkridner: my current patches are here: http://www.sakoman.com/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=u-boot.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/omap3-v2009.11.1
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  • [14:29:42] <buZz> sakoman_: could you take a look at my dmesg output, to see if this is an expected output for enabled tv-out?
  • [14:30:39] <PierrotLafouine> no problem, I found my way out, but I'm kinda newby for these technology (I'm hardware guy). sometime I feel lost with a 'Hello World' software demo, lol
  • [14:30:42] <sakoman_> jkridner: I'll be cleaning them up a bit and adding XM patches in a new branch. Perhaps Khasim can take a look at them and see if they look good enough to submit. I tried to address all the feedback Khasim got on his first round of patchs
  • [14:31:30] <PierrotLafouine> To get source code, I have to install 'Git' and clone repos, I'm I right ?
  • [14:32:26] <buZz> PierrotLafouine: usually yes, some repos are not git but svn or cvs, but i think most are git nowadays
  • [14:33:25] <PierrotLafouine> ok, we works with Mercurial, any potential clash issues with Git ?
  • [14:34:27] <buZz> i would only use git for git repos, don't mix it up with other systems
  • [14:35:11] <sakoman_> buZz: nothing obviously wrong jumps out at me
  • [14:35:58] <buZz> sakoman_: too bad :( ok, tnx
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  • [14:40:45] <yann361> Is someone can help with rtc and i2c2 port ?
  • [14:41:48] <_koen_> jkridner: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/narcissus/deploy/beagleboard/random-e0558423-image-manifest.html
  • [14:42:01] <_koen_> jkridner: needs more changes still, but getting there :)
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  • [14:45:33] <PierrotLafouine> Got Git compilation error, does someone has exprience with Git here ?
  • [14:46:13] <PierrotLafouine> missing /curl/curl.h file, easy.h file
  • [14:46:50] <buZz> PierrotLafouine: which distribution are you using on your development system?
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  • [14:47:44] <PierrotLafouine> I'm using Ubuntu 8.04 LTS with gnome
  • [14:48:04] <buZz> you should be just able to do 'apt-get install git' on ubuntu
  • [14:48:14] <PierrotLafouine> ok cool
  • [14:49:30] <PierrotLafouine> Done, that was too easy...lol thanks
  • [14:49:43] <buZz> ;)
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  • [15:05:05] <djlewis> good morning prpplague
  • [15:07:33] <jkridner> _koen_: what are "Delivered as" and "modified"?
  • [15:07:47] <jkridner> hehe...
  • [15:07:56] * jkridner should have read the Legend. :)
  • [15:10:02] <_koen_> jkridner: I took the OSRB template and am filling in the blanks
  • [15:10:20] <jkridner> good deal.
  • [15:12:02] <yann361> is someone ever play with CONFIG_OMAP_MUX config ?
  • [15:13:55] <Brokie> Hi, I had to goto meeting,
  • [15:13:59] <Brokie> Have new issue
  • [15:14:02] <Brokie> ...
  • [15:15:28] <PierrotLafouine> How do I get U-Boot sorce code with Git ? Someone knows that ?
  • [15:15:59] <yann361> git clone git://git.denx.de/u-boot.git u-boot-main
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  • [15:18:16] <Brokie> I setup glew_1.5.3 for download, and it try to download something from www.angstron-distribution.org/download (and of course it gets a 404 error)
  • [15:18:22] <PierrotLafouine> Thanks yann361
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  • [15:19:25] <prpplague> djlewis: greetings
  • [15:20:28] <yann361> can someone help me with pinmux kernel configuration ?
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  • [15:22:07] <Brokie> why is bitbake trying to download from angstrom website when i clearly tell it to download from the sourceforge site?
  • [15:22:22] <Brokie> any way I can tell it not to?
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  • [15:26:41] <Brokie> http://pastebin.ca/1841283 <-- logfile
  • [15:29:49] <jkridner> I think it is looking for the checksum.
  • [15:29:56] <jkridner> I think you need to update checksums.ini
  • [15:30:15] <PierrotLafouine> hummmm, I get git : command not found
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  • [15:31:04] <PierrotLafouine> look likes apt-get install git didn't work ?
  • [15:31:10] <jkridner> PierrotLafouine: what distribution of Linux are you running? do you have 'git' installed?
  • [15:31:42] <PierrotLafouine> <jkridner Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, I have done apt-get install git
  • [15:32:00] <PierrotLafouine> man git give erro
  • [15:32:22] <PierrotLafouine> no manual entry for git
  • [15:32:23] <jkridner> I think in old distros, there was something else that was being called 'git'.
  • [15:32:56] <jkridner> try 'sudo apt-get install git-core'
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  • [15:33:30] <yann361> is someone evert use i2c-2 bus and twl rtc ?
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  • [15:35:32] <PierrotLafouine> jkridner work better
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  • [15:36:37] <prpplague> yann361: i2c-2 works fine with the zippy and zippy2
  • [15:37:15] <yann361> i2c-2 work fine too when got CONFIG_OMAP_MUX in my kernel but can get rtc on the beagle working
  • [15:37:55] <yann361> when CONFIG_OMAP_MUX is not set rtc on the beagleboard works fine but can't get i2c2 working controller timed out
  • [15:38:18] <yann361> can't get rtc working with CONFIG_OMAP_MUX
  • [15:38:19] <yann361> *
  • [15:40:53] <PierrotLafouine> ok, got U-Boot code, thanks, I'll look at it after lunch
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  • [15:59:09] <Brokie> PierrotLafouine: sudo apt-get install git-common
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  • [16:00:10] <Brokie> sorry
  • [16:00:24] <Brokie> PierrotLafouine: sudo apt-get install git core
  • [16:00:27] <Brokie> grr
  • [16:00:40] <Brokie> sudo apt-get install git-core
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  • [16:01:07] <Brokie> oh, I see you told him, jkridner
  • [16:01:12] <Brokie> lol
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  • [16:10:40] <djlewis> neading to the office.. later..
  • [16:10:50] <_koen_> hrw: seems xinput_calibrator got fixed judging by the commit logs
  • [16:13:26] <hrw> _koen_: I am waiting for TS driver on bug20 to test it ;D
  • [16:14:46] <thurbad> after al that trying to build mplayer it wouldn't let me install the ipk's because of md5sum mismatch
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  • [16:16:06] <thurbad> but it seems to be working better after opkg install ffmpeg
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  • [16:16:47] <thurbad> so somehow mplayer gets installed with the base build but doesn't install the correct ffmpeg
  • [16:18:27] <ppotera> good morning all (stretch, yaaaawn)
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  • [16:23:28] <thurbad> would think mplayer depends on ffmpeg
  • [16:25:39] <av500> no, it can run without
  • [16:26:33] <thurbad> there was some crufty version of ffmpeg that was installed with mplayer
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  • [17:03:21] <plasmab> any beagle/omap riscos people here/
  • [17:03:22] <plasmab> ?
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  • [17:03:53] <jkridner> lots of beagle/omap people, perhaps not so many riscos people.
  • [17:04:39] <plasmab> do they live elsewhere or are they just antisocial ;)
  • [17:04:43] * jkridner has been waiting to meet the enthusiastic RiscOS crowd as to understand what is it that gets people hooked on it.
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  • [17:05:25] <plasmab> jkridner, for me its just how not like anything else it is..
  • [17:05:33] <jkridner> perhaps #riskos on ircnet.
  • [17:05:47] <plasmab> jkridner, they are all OMAP bashers
  • [17:06:04] <jkridner> oh?
  • [17:06:12] <prpplague> do tell
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  • [17:06:22] <plasmab> yeah the OMAP will hardly run any of the useful apps
  • [17:06:28] <plasmab> well thats a slight lie
  • [17:06:30] <av500> plasmab: they prefer to run it on a dead bagder?
  • [17:06:51] <plasmab> it will "run" them but tend to crash
  • [17:06:59] <av500> so fix it
  • [17:07:30] <plasmab> well i would but the apps in question arent open source and the problem is CPU compatibility between arm v5 and arm v7
  • [17:08:13] <plasmab> i.e. misaligned transfers and 26 bit compatibility
  • [17:08:51] <av500> plasmab: but armv5 does not allow misaligned, no?
  • [17:09:12] <plasmab> the alignment rules have changed
  • [17:09:36] <plasmab> armv5 (i think) had 2 byte alignment. armv7 has 4 byte alignment
  • [17:09:51] <av500> no
  • [17:10:06] <av500> both have 2bytes for short and 4bytes for long
  • [17:10:13] <av500> but, armv7 can do unaligned
  • [17:10:21] <anunakin> jkridner: thanks for DSS tip!
  • [17:11:25] <plasmab> https://www.riscosopen.org/wiki/documentation/pages/ARMv7+compatibility+primer/versions/10
  • [17:11:28] <plasmab> is the full summary
  • [17:14:49] <av500> ok
  • [17:14:55] <av500> so the code needs to be fixed
  • [17:15:16] <av500> coz arm will not fall back to armv5 in the forseeable future :)
  • [17:15:44] <plasmab> unfortunately the code for the apps tend to be closed source
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  • [17:16:39] <av500> so u are stuck in the past...
  • [17:18:25] <plasmab> partly.. im sure someone has got around the SparkFS issue... its the most used decompression software on RiscOS.
  • [17:21:31] <jkridner> plasmab: can you not use the alignment exceptions to patch the address pointer at run-time?
  • [17:21:50] <av500> jkridner: seems there are some that are not so easy
  • [17:21:54] <av500> like the LDM/STM thing
  • [17:22:09] <av500> "...For ARMv7 and above, an abort will be raised if the source/destination address is not word-aligned. The abort will occur regardless of the alignment exceptions setting."
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  • [17:22:37] <plasmab> thats the problem im hitting basically
  • [17:22:56] <plasmab> a simple recompile with the latest compiler will solve the issue
  • [17:23:26] <thurbad> and there's no interest on the coder owners to port to more recent hardware?
  • [17:23:36] <av500> if they are still alive :)
  • [17:24:25] <plasmab> thurbad, trouble is that most riscos users have machines that never exhibit the issue
  • [17:24:32] <plasmab> so its very hard to test
  • [17:24:51] <plasmab> *and* most riscos apps are a mix of basic and arm assembler
  • [17:25:17] <thurbad> basic....
  • [17:25:21] * thurbad twitches
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  • [17:26:15] <thurbad> writing a webpage in VB is bad enough :P
  • [17:27:00] <plasmab> thurbad... its BBC Basic. Its nice enough
  • [17:27:07] <plasmab> VB is truely nasty
  • [17:27:49] <thurbad> is bbc basic pre-compiled or interpreted?
  • [17:28:15] <seed95> Hi, I am thinking about buying a beagle board and use it as a server which runs continuously my irc client, do you think this is a good idea?
  • [17:29:48] <jkridner> seed95: I used to do that quite a bit, but I ran out of room on my desk for the other monitor.
  • [17:30:05] <jkridner> I was using synergy so that I didn't have to have space for the keyboard/mouse.
  • [17:30:13] <plasmab> thurbad.. i think its interpreted. But since it was written for a 32K machine i'd expect that
  • [17:30:31] <jkridner> seed95: It was nice to not have other apps interrupt my IRC connection. I ran pidgin.
  • [17:30:53] <seed95> jkridner: I think that I am going to connect to the beagle board by SSH, so it won't take any room on my desk.
  • [17:31:21] <plasmab> and the interpreter was written in assembler, burnt onto a rom using dip switches and worked first time. But then you wouldnt expect anything less from the dude that invented the ARM processor
  • [17:31:36] <plasmab> now dudette
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  • [17:33:27] <seed95> jkridner: I am looking for something which doesn't have a high eletrical consumption that I can keep trurned on all the time.
  • [17:34:58] <jkridner> seed95: I think the BeagleBoard is perfect for that.
  • [17:35:39] <plasmab> seed95, dont buy an IGEP... they get way too hot
  • [17:36:05] <av500> plasmab: running an irc server can be done at less than max cpu freq
  • [17:36:20] <av500> with ondemand policy it will run at 125mhz most of the time
  • [17:36:30] <av500> err, irc client
  • [17:37:22] <plasmab> my experience of the IGEP is that the perhipheral chips get very hot
  • [17:37:24] <plasmab> not the CPU
  • [17:37:35] <seed95> Do all beagle boards have a Ethernet adapter?
  • [17:39:30] <adj> seed95, as far as I know only few protos of new beagle have ethernet adapter, so no
  • [17:39:53] <plasmab> seed95, you can use a usb ethernet adaptor
  • [17:39:59] <plasmab> most beagle's dont have network
  • [17:40:04] <plasmab> which is why i bought an IGEP
  • [17:40:05] <plasmab> :/
  • [17:40:07] <adj> or zippy board
  • [17:40:07] <av500> seed95: the BB with omap3 might even be a bit overkill for an ssh irc client
  • [17:41:45] <wroberts1> you might be able to use openwrt, run irc client in wifi router
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  • [17:42:24] <plasmab> seed95, for the job you are looking to do i have an ITX box
  • [17:42:39] <plasmab> but i use it as a fileserver/domain controller too
  • [17:43:26] <seed95> plasmab: it's too much eletrical consumption for an IRC client.
  • [17:44:02] <plasmab> seed95, buy a vms box.. i think you can get them for $6 a month or less
  • [17:44:13] <plasmab> you dont host it so you dont pay for the electric
  • [17:44:27] <seed95> wroberts1: I don't have a router, my Internet provider provides one that I can't play with :/, I would like to avoid adding another router.
  • [17:45:37] <wroberts1> beagleboard should be fine then
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  • [17:46:58] <plasmab> seed95, beagleboard is a bit overkill for that
  • [17:47:04] <plasmab> google for vps hosting
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  • [17:47:15] <plasmab> will be alot cheaper for you
  • [17:47:29] <adj> overkill is always a joy, so go for it :)
  • [17:47:46] <wroberts1> $150 isnt overkill
  • [17:48:20] <plasmab> *shrug* just trying to save the dude some cash
  • [17:48:41] <av500> plasmab: vps for $6 where?
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  • [17:49:30] <plasmab> my deal from slicehost was about $12 and i get 5Gig space and 100G bandwidth
  • [17:49:39] <plasmab> must be cheaper deals about for less usage
  • [17:49:53] <av500> $20 at slicehost
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  • [17:51:04] <plasmab> contextswitch used to be cheap
  • [17:51:09] <plasmab> but they disappeared
  • [17:51:12] <plasmab> i think
  • [17:51:24] <seed95> I could also use it for my mpd serveur... Depending on how much harddisk I could get with a MMC/SD card.
  • [17:51:34] <plasmab> http://www.webkeepers.com/
  • [17:51:39] <av500> plasmab: actually my hoster has it for 10???
  • [17:51:40] <plasmab> 6.95 a month
  • [17:52:15] <ius> Depending on your needs: http://www.lowendbox.com/
  • [17:52:29] <DanaG> adj: new beagle?
  • [17:52:33] <DanaG> with ethernet?
  • [17:53:28] <adj> DanaG: beagle XM
  • [17:53:56] <plasmab> seed95, i've seen a 486 based machine that runs linux and is basically a matchbox with a network port
  • [17:54:07] <plasmab> cant remember the name of it off the top of my head
  • [17:54:40] <av500> plasmab: yes, there are some
  • [17:54:47] <DanaG> heh, if I were going with a new thing, I'd probably want one of the Marvell 1.2ghz ARM thingies.
  • [17:54:53] <DanaG> hmm, are there pics of the XM somewhere?
  • [17:54:56] <seed95> plasmab: cheaper than a beagle board?
  • [17:55:09] <plasmab> yeah about $50
  • [17:55:13] <av500> DanaG: they wont show us pics...
  • [17:55:27] <plasmab> bifferboards are also quite cheap
  • [17:55:46] <plasmab> http://bifferos.bizhat.com/
  • [17:55:59] <adj> av500, i have seen some pics linked at this channel
  • [17:56:30] * plasmab realises he's getting married 2 weeks today.
  • [17:56:33] <plasmab> scary
  • [17:57:03] <plasmab> i want the new 2Ghz arms
  • [17:57:14] <plasmab> in an ITX form factor :)
  • [17:58:26] <DanaG> ... with a PCIe slot.
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  • [18:01:51] <DanaG> too bad the 3D part of beagleboard isn't really open.
  • [18:02:53] <av500> hoe open do you need it?
  • [18:02:54] <jkridner> _koen_: I started a build of xf86-input-evtouch and it has been running for 6+ hours. :( do you know why a rebuild wasn't triggered in the feeds when xorg-xserver API was updated? do these need to be manually bumped?
  • [18:02:55] <av500> how
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  • [18:04:33] <seed95> Is there a site referencing all beagle-like boards out there please?
  • [18:04:50] <av500> no
  • [18:05:16] <jkridner> seed95: http://wiki.omap.com/index.php?title=OMAP3_Boards has some of them.
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  • [18:05:30] <seed95> jkridner: thanks.
  • [18:05:57] <jkridner> where Beagle-like = uses OMAP3. There are many more OMAP3 boards though. av500, perhaps the dev version of the Archos should go there too?
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  • [18:06:12] <av500> jkridner: feel free to link it
  • [18:06:19] <av500> u need something from me?
  • [18:06:27] <jkridner> nope. just wanted your view.
  • [18:06:32] <av500> fine with me
  • [18:06:43] <jkridner> a picture would be nice--don't want to violate copyright.
  • [18:06:47] <av500> okie
  • [18:07:28] <jkridner> is there a home/purchase page?
  • [18:07:42] <av500> a.com->reviews&photos
  • [18:08:04] <jkridner> http://www.archos.com/products/imt/archos_5it/dualoslinux.html ?
  • [18:08:06] <av500> http://www.archos.com/products/imt/archos_5it/index.html
  • [18:08:08] <av500> yes
  • [18:08:18] <av500> u found the right one :)
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  • [18:08:35] <av500> bottom has reviews&photos link, use what you want
  • [18:08:48] <av500> or use the pics from the oe blog
  • [18:09:05] <av500> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/??ngstr??m-featured-engadget-and-slashdot
  • [18:09:29] <av500> that is gen6, there should be a gen7 too
  • [18:09:58] <DanaG> my ideal for "open" is like Radeon is open.
  • [18:10:12] <DanaG> However, I'd settle for "freely downloadable without registration" for now.
  • [18:10:14] <DanaG> =??
  • [18:10:23] <av500> yes, but for political reasons, or for practical ones?
  • [18:10:27] <DanaG> As it is, right now you can't just go right up and download the TI omap 3D driver.
  • [18:10:36] <av500> right
  • [18:10:43] * av500 glares at ti
  • [18:10:49] <plasmab> if the driver isnt open then there is usually alot of clever stuf happening in the driver
  • [18:11:09] <av500> ppl that have seen it might disagree :)
  • [18:11:19] <DanaG> Bonus points (even while still "closed") if you have official repos for it.
  • [18:11:29] <DanaG> For example, the nvidia binary driver is not open... but it's in the Ubuntu repos.
  • [18:11:48] <av500> yes I know
  • [18:12:38] <plasmab> the old 3dfx drivers werent open because all the smart stuff happened in software. The card just new how to draw triangles really
  • [18:13:24] <DanaG> speaking of 3dfx... what can you do with one of those cards nowadays?
  • [18:13:29] <DanaG> Anything useful?
  • [18:14:12] <plasmab> i have a voodoo one in the back of my car.. been sitting there for 6 months
  • [18:14:31] <av500> u been sitting on it?
  • [18:14:37] <plasmab> my passengers have
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  • [18:15:17] <DanaG> hmm, when's the new beagle supposed to be available?
  • [18:16:31] <ds2> morning
  • [18:18:10] <DanaG> this morning? =??
  • [18:18:14] <DanaG> joking.
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  • [18:22:45] <DanaG> http://my.opera.com/bhtooefr/blog/hp-t5325-thin-client-risc-os-and-maybe-combining-the-two-or-just-running-linu
  • [18:22:48] <DanaG> inTEResting
  • [18:23:01] <ds2> no, yesterday. this channel is a big time warp
  • [18:23:31] <jkridner> DanaG: BeagleBoard-xM will launch in June.
  • [18:24:07] * jkridner scrolls back to see what av500 was staring this direction for.
  • [18:24:29] <av500> [19:10] <DanaG> As it is, right now you can't just go right up and download the TI omap 3D driver.
  • [18:24:37] <jkridner> DanaG: the Angstrom distribution distributes the TI OMAP 3D driver.
  • [18:25:27] * av500 un-glares at ti
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  • [18:25:55] <DanaG> hmm, then can I just download a .tar.gz file somewhere?
  • [18:28:14] <DanaG> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/
  • [18:28:35] <av500> "sgx"
  • [18:29:26] <ds2> jkridner: was that special dispensation for Angstrom?
  • [18:29:43] <DanaG> hmm, argh, no module source. bleh.
  • [18:30:25] <DanaG> I don't want to use Angstrom -- I don't think very highly of it, ever since I tried it on Zaurus Collie and found that they had all the drivers FOR the board, DISABLED in the kernel config!
  • [18:30:46] <DanaG> Drivers not working well, I can forgive. Drivers not being compiled at all? Fail.
  • [18:36:54] <Brokie> DanaG, there is nothing wrong with the kernel config for the Collie
  • [18:37:08] <DanaG> The last time I tried it was over a year ago, though.
  • [18:37:20] <DanaG> It didn't have ucb1x00_ts enabled, or collie_ts, either.
  • [18:37:33] <Brokie> I think it was unstable then...
  • [18:37:43] <Brokie> if you have a collie still, you should try again...
  • [18:41:16] <_koen_> jkridner: http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=ed5210189a29729ee7fd31e7e522b9aeb6036bbb
  • [18:42:58] * jkridner requests ds2 read the license as distributed by TI.
  • [18:44:37] <jkridner> _koen_: is there an upstream for this stuff to go?
  • [18:44:51] <_koen_> yes, it's the first hit on google
  • [18:44:56] <_koen_> conan.de
  • [18:46:12] <jkridner> hmmm... guess the patch changed a lot *because* quite a bit went upstream.
  • [18:48:01] <ds2> jkridner: I have read that; was wondering more if it is a special case or just the normal path
  • [18:48:38] <ds2> sigh... copies and copies and copies of the same old info all over the place
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  • [18:50:03] <jkridner> ds2: TI only distributes the 3D graphics through registration, I believe.
  • [18:51:53] <av500> jkridner: so what is this? http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=xserver-kdrive-powervrsgx
  • [18:52:08] <av500> jkridner: I am puzzled:
  • [18:52:13] <av500> [19:24] <jkridner> DanaG: the Angstrom distribution distributes the TI OMAP 3D driver.
  • [18:52:16] <av500> [19:50] <jkridner> ds2: TI only distributes the 3D graphics through registration, I believe.
  • [18:56:10] <ds2> alrighty
  • [18:59:05] <jkridner> TI != Angstrom.
  • [18:59:18] <jkridner> same bits, different source.
  • [18:59:43] <av500> but where did angstrom get it from?
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  • [19:00:23] <ds2> spontaneous generation theory of software :D
  • [19:00:36] <av500> found an usb stick in the park
  • [19:00:47] <thurbad> p = np !!!
  • [19:00:58] <DanaG> argh, backup battery on the collie == zero.
  • [19:01:13] <ds2> a bunch of little birdies delivered it (a la IPoAvian RFC) ;)
  • [19:02:04] <thurbad> just like my baby brother :)
  • [19:03:52] <DanaG> hmm, "code: bad PC value"
  • [19:04:05] <DanaG> er, wait, collie stuff... I should go to #angstrom
  • [19:04:24] <thurbad> why oh why do artists have to label content with names like: pad01_dam03
  • [19:04:24] <ds2> DanaG: got a Collie that runs ARMv7 code? ;)
  • [19:04:39] <av500> ds2: with 12V
  • [19:05:01] <thurbad> the only thing this guy tries to optimize is the filename :/
  • [19:05:08] <ds2> av500: to which of the many things I have spurned are you responding to? :D
  • [19:06:07] <av500> how to make the collie run v7 code :)
  • [19:06:26] <av500> thurbad: do you have a sample file for me?
  • [19:06:33] <ds2> ah...the expectation of proper electron migration :D
  • [19:06:35] <djlewis_> speaking of 3DFX, I have one or two of most 3DFX boards.
  • [19:07:04] <DanaG> hmm, nobody seems to be active in #angstrom
  • [19:08:40] <ds2> DanaG:just use the sharprom
  • [19:08:50] <ds2> or Crako (sp?)
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  • [19:10:16] <jkridner> av500: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jadon/4436189602/
  • [19:11:24] * av500 is distracted by jkridner's brothers wedding pics...
  • [19:12:14] <prpplague> hehe
  • [19:13:03] <av500> jkridner: thx, what is J4?
  • [19:13:13] <prpplague> if anyone is interested, ShowDog is going out for pre-production, and i'm taking feedback/recommendations for new beagleboard accessory boards
  • [19:13:20] * jkridner observes that every time I touch the screen on the Xenarc using the updated xf86-input-evtouch from _koen_, the input screen disappears and then comes back again.
  • [19:13:21] <av500> prpplague: pics
  • [19:13:54] <ds2> jkridner: not sure if you are the right person but... what do you think about trying to collapse all these new boards's U-boot into one code base - Leopard/Hawk/Beagle and whatever else?
  • [19:14:01] <prpplague> av500: when they arrive
  • [19:14:04] <jkridner> prpplague: where is J4?
  • [19:14:06] <jkridner> oh...
  • [19:14:11] <jkridner> I think that is for USB testing.
  • [19:14:26] <jkridner> I'm not sure. It might also be to add another serial port.
  • [19:14:40] <prpplague> i don't see a j4
  • [19:14:53] <jkridner> ah, av500 was the one that asked.
  • [19:14:55] <av500> glasses?
  • [19:15:06] <jkridner> it is by the Ethernet connector.
  • [19:15:20] <jkridner> just to the upper-left of it.
  • [19:15:58] <DanaG> showdog?
  • [19:16:09] <av500> prpplague: pic!
  • [19:16:15] <thurbad> bytor's nemesis?
  • [19:16:23] <prpplague> av500: of what?
  • [19:16:33] <av500> jkridner: I guess it is the 4th usb of the hub thing
  • [19:16:37] <av500> prpplague: showdog
  • [19:16:39] <prpplague> jkridner: hmm, J4 isn't on my schematic
  • [19:16:49] <prpplague> av500: when the pre-production arrives, i'll post pic
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  • [19:17:49] <anunakin> I having problems with /dev/rtc
  • [19:17:55] <prpplague> jkridner: i think gerald has gotten rid of that header
  • [19:18:01] <jkridner> av500: no, I think it would be between the OMAP and the hub, if it is the test point for the USB. not sure which side of the PHY, but probably the USB side. I think I recall Gerald saying it was a serial port though.
  • [19:18:07] <prpplague> DanaG: a lcd accessory board for the beagle
  • [19:18:20] <jkridner> J4 has been soldered to and desoldered on this prototype.
  • [19:18:24] <_koen_> jkridner: that P7 proto is horribly outdated
  • [19:18:42] * jkridner looks at the schematics to stop guessing.
  • [19:19:45] <prpplague> jkridner: i suspect gerald changed that header to something else
  • [19:19:52] <jkridner> it is 2 USB ports.
  • [19:19:56] <av500> see
  • [19:20:38] <av500> the 2 usb 3.0 ones? :)
  • [19:20:54] <jkridner> :)
  • [19:21:09] <jkridner> the same ones going to P14 for some reason.
  • [19:21:33] <jkridner> might be gone on the final version, but that is how they are wired here.
  • [19:21:39] <prpplague> jkridner: that isn't on my schematic
  • [19:21:41] <av500> p14 and p16 are 2x each?
  • [19:21:47] <jkridner> yes.
  • [19:22:01] <av500> ok
  • [19:22:08] <jkridner> U15 provides 4 downstream ports and Ethernet.
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  • [19:24:01] <jkridner> _koen_: I'm getting a Seg Fault in X11 (caught signal 11) every time I touch the screen. :(
  • [19:24:02] <av500> jkridner: ok
  • [19:24:13] <av500> jkridner: then dont touch it
  • [19:24:58] <jkridner> :)
  • [19:25:20] <jkridner> if I hold my finger there a while, then the mouse cursor just goes nuts (without necessarily generating a seg fault).
  • [19:25:20] <ds2> so we know that the touch screen is providing signals back to the CPU
  • [19:25:28] <_koen_> jkridner: I don't have evtouch hw to test that driver with, sorry
  • [19:25:39] <_koen_> jkridner: you could try applying some more debian patches
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  • [19:25:57] <jkridner> the input appears to be rotated. I'll mess with the xorg.conf.
  • [19:26:32] <jkridner> once it finishes building, I'll take a look at more patches.
  • [19:26:56] <jkridner> (currently at task 818 of 2677)
  • [19:27:06] <jkridner> (after running all day long)
  • [19:27:52] <ds2> a TSC2046 touch screen would be so much less painful ;)
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  • [19:35:59] <anunakin> Any here knows if can I use a CR2032 battery ? for RCT? like a replacement for VL-1220?
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  • [19:37:51] <ds2> no
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  • [19:39:02] <hrw> re
  • [19:39:26] <hrw> which chip does beagleboard-vgaout expandion use?
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  • [21:06:04] <embuste7> anyone know where the OpenCV sources for Beagle are?
  • [21:07:22] <prpplague> embuste7: should be able to find it http://www.hbrobotics.org/wiki/index.php5/Beagle_Board
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  • [21:10:11] <djlewis_> I dnld openCV from their home page and build on BB.
  • [21:11:12] <djlewis_> That way you get the latest v2.0
  • [21:11:51] <djlewis_> http://opencv.willowgarage.com/wiki/ and http://sourceforge.net/projects/opencv/
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  • [21:13:05] * djlewis_ hasn't figured out yet how to tweak OE recipies to do such things :(
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  • [21:20:32] <prpplague> djlewis_: ping
  • [21:21:21] <prpplague> djlewis_: trainer board wiki pages have been updated along with a schematic - http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoard_Trainer
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  • [21:30:48] <djlewis_> prpplague: nice layout, thank you :)
  • [21:31:41] <prpplague> djlewis_: thanks
  • [21:32:05] <prpplague> djlewis_: i'm taking suggestions on next accessory board, so if you have ideas, give me a shout
  • [21:32:48] * djlewis_ is studying how one programs the atmega328 through the Beagleboard or whatever.
  • [21:32:52] <djlewis_> no atmega experience
  • [21:33:15] <prpplague> djlewis_: basically you can load the arduino bootloader on it
  • [21:33:24] <prpplague> djlewis_: then you can use the standard utils
  • [21:33:28] <djlewis_> through serial interface?
  • [21:33:59] <buZz> yeah
  • [21:34:19] <prpplague> yea
  • [21:34:30] <buZz> the arduino bootloader emulates a certain serial programmer for atmega chip
  • [21:34:35] <buZz> and programs the chip itself :)
  • [21:34:36] <djlewis_> yeah + yea + hell yes?
  • [21:34:53] <djlewis_> ;)
  • [21:35:33] <buZz> hmmf, ISEE asks me to backport my kernel changes to 2.6.28 >_<
  • [21:35:34] <djlewis_> typo, yeah + yea = hell yes..
  • [21:36:09] * djlewis_ liked 2.6.28
  • [21:36:22] <prpplague> djlewis_: prefer to use the isp header, but you can use the arduino bootloader with no problems
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  • [21:36:49] <buZz> well i would just like mainstream kernel to work :)
  • [21:36:55] <prpplague> buZz: hehe
  • [21:37:01] <prpplague> buZz: you do arduino hacking?
  • [21:37:12] <buZz> yeah i play around with it :)
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  • [21:37:33] <prpplague> buZz: and i assume beagle as well....
  • [21:37:45] <buZz> igepv2 actually, but yeah
  • [21:37:51] <prpplague> buZz: ahh ok
  • [21:38:53] <buZz> looking into making a 'smart' battery for the igepv2 around an arduino and some li-ion cells :P
  • [21:39:09] <buZz> well, it could be used for any 5V device i guess
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  • [21:41:25] <prpplague> buZz: might look at using one of the TI fuel gauge devices, pretty dandy
  • [21:41:33] <prpplague> buZz: something like the BQ27350
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  • [21:42:36] <buZz> bah tssop :)
  • [21:42:42] <prpplague> hehe
  • [21:43:17] <buZz> i'll just do the gauging myself
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  • [21:49:23] <ds2> tssop's are easy
  • [21:49:35] <ds2> at least it ain't a microstar bga
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  • [22:36:45] <DanaG> I'm interested in that zippy2 board, myself.
  • [22:36:57] <DanaG> Though, I'd rather wait and get the beagleboard successor instead, if it has ethernet.
  • [22:37:08] <DanaG> Or get one of those Marvell thingies with gigabit ethernet.
  • [22:41:21] <DanaG> http://www.tincantools.com/product.php?productid=16148&cat=255&page=1 -- cool. zippy2. now we just need a case that fits with it.
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