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  • [00:25:02] <Artanis> maybe someone can help, I'm having trouble connecting to the beagleboard(c4)
  • [00:25:13] <Artanis> when I try to connect via serial port, nothing happens, it just shows a blank screen and stops there, either in linux(minicom) or windows(putty)
  • [00:25:18] <Artanis> the serial port in my pc should be installed correctly as windows detects it and putty doesn't trow any kind of error
  • [00:25:25] <Artanis> I'm following the steps mentioned here: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners
  • [00:25:31] <Artanis> any ideas?
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  • [00:44:39] <thurbad> artanis could be the serial connector attached to the beagle board.. the one I bought was wired wrong
  • [00:47:02] <Artanis> I think I have other serial connector here, let's see if that helps
  • [00:48:47] <thurbad> how do most people get the expansion header attached, I'm not about to try soldering something that precise
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  • [00:52:02] <Artanis> same problem, changing the connector didn't help
  • [00:55:08] <thurbad> you can test the serial cable with a wire by shorting pins 2 and 3, and if that works, do the same with the connector attached to the cable to test the connector
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  • [00:56:15] <thurbad> if you jump those two pins you should get echo'd text when you type
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  • [01:01:07] <Artanis> nothing happend, so it's either the cable or my computer?
  • [01:01:32] <thurbad> or you don't have the terminal set up properly
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  • [01:02:27] <Artanis> should be COM1 115200 8N1, right?
  • [01:02:49] <thurbad> if com 1 is the correct port, yes
  • [01:03:01] <thurbad> and what is your flow control set to?
  • [01:03:11] <Artanis> none
  • [01:03:20] <thurbad> ok, that's right
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  • [01:03:56] <thurbad> you're sure you jumped 2/3?
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  • [01:06:10] <Artanis> yes, the pins are numbered so I don't think I screw up that part
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  • [01:06:24] <thurbad> they should be on the wider side... with the wider side as the top and you looking straight on at the cable connection they're the 2nd and 3rd pin from the right top row
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  • [01:08:24] <Artanis> maybe it's the pc, I've never used the serial port before so It could be mounted backwards or something
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  • [01:08:45] <thurbad> could also be disabled in the bios
  • [01:09:12] <Artanis> then windows wouldnt detect it
  • [01:09:15] <thurbad> windows shows a com1 on my machine even though I my motherboard doesn't support serial com ports
  • [01:09:16] <Artanis> I think
  • [01:10:24] <Artanis> I'll check that, thanks
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  • [05:37:03] <Differentkindof> Question everybody; does the beagleboard support OpenGL or just gles
  • [05:39:38] <Differentkindof> Sorry read es so I guess the real question is how the gl to gles translator works could it work on a library that has an OpenGL dep?
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  • [05:45:03] <dougztr> it supports GLES only using the SGX drivers
  • [05:45:48] <Differentkindof> So does that mean the funky translator program floating around wouldn't help much?
  • [05:47:25] <Differentkindof> Sorry I tinker about in Linux but know very little Especially with the whole new arm stuff coming about (or me just noticing it for the first time)
  • [05:48:07] <dougztr> i haven't got the SGX drivers working yet personally, so I have little experience with it
  • [05:48:49] <Differentkindof> Ahh hmm
  • [05:49:21] <dougztr> Its on my todo list, i have downloaded the stuff, just need to give it a little luvin to make it work
  • [05:50:10] <dougztr> I'm burned out this week, been playing games until I cool down and get back to embedded hackery
  • [05:50:21] <Differentkindof> Hehe yeah I gotta wait till I have hardware and tinker for a few months
  • [05:50:44] <Differentkindof> Right on I still gotta wait for my pandora
  • [05:50:47] <dougztr> I have a BB and a IGEPv2 here both running gentoo-arm. So far so good
  • [05:51:26] <Differentkindof> I want an igep or Bb as a set-top box for my bedroom tv
  • [05:51:52] <dougztr> It works fine, I'm doing that with my BB
  • [05:52:07] <Differentkindof> Nice
  • [05:52:31] <Differentkindof> The open gl thing is for the gem library for puredata
  • [05:53:19] <dougztr> The trick for 720p is run at 1360x768MR-16@60 to eliminate overscan cropping
  • [05:54:00] <dougztr> I suck at OpenGL programming, trying to learn it though
  • [05:54:12] <dougztr> I can plot points, barely
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  • [05:55:11] <Differentkindof> I guess since I don't use any gl I could just force a build of gem forgoing gl all together
  • [05:55:56] <dougztr> gem as in the windowing system aka atari ?
  • [05:56:18] <Differentkindof> No
  • [05:56:50] <Differentkindof> It's a library for multimedia in puredata
  • [05:57:02] <Differentkindof> Geeky music stuff ;)
  • [05:57:05] <dougztr> for me, ogl is just bells and whistles, nice but not essential, so low priority
  • [05:57:06] <dougztr> oic
  • [05:57:29] <dougztr> BB should crank for music stuff if you can get a wrap on programming the DSP
  • [05:57:36] <Differentkindof> Yeah I just wanna manipulate a webcam and push out video with music
  • [05:57:40] <Differentkindof> Yeah
  • [05:58:01] <Differentkindof> I'm currently forcing my roommate to watch battlefield earth
  • [05:58:09] <Differentkindof> She's cursing m existence
  • [05:58:16] <dougztr> well.. buy one, at $200 fully loaded its not a major expense
  • [05:58:42] <Differentkindof> I got an openpandora coming first
  • [05:58:53] <dougztr> oh right, those look really cool
  • [05:59:04] <Differentkindof> Get that tuned the way I like it then a bb or igepv2
  • [05:59:08] <dougztr> any word on delivery date yet?
  • [05:59:28] <dougztr> i might buy one too
  • [05:59:34] <Differentkindof> About a month or two
  • [05:59:49] <Differentkindof> They might have some first batched ones still
  • [05:59:54] <Differentkindof> Totally worth it
  • [06:00:37] <dougztr> yeah they're cool. a couple guys in #neuvoo work on them, notably JavaJake who is a dev, neuvoo is gentoo for pandora's
  • [06:00:46] <Differentkindof> Yeah
  • [06:01:15] <Differentkindof> I follow everything but when it comes to hard core programming I run into the pure confusion of it all
  • [06:01:19] <dougztr> I couldn't wait :-) a BB with a usb joystick is pretty close, albeit not portable
  • [06:01:24] <Differentkindof> Java made me hurt mentally
  • [06:01:40] <dougztr> i don't care for java, i speak python
  • [06:02:00] <Differentkindof> Gotta look into py and get back into c
  • [06:02:08] <dougztr> although java is somewhat more sane than c++
  • [06:02:51] <dougztr> i can work with java, and have, but its hard for me, i'm totally spoiled on python
  • [06:03:19] <Differentkindof> My programming experience c in highschool basic and visual basic... Some door games for a bbs back in the day
  • [06:03:22] <dougztr> i decided to focus on it several years ago and its been a good choice overall
  • [06:03:45] <dougztr> yeah right on, i used to run a bbs with trade wars 2002 and operation overkill ii
  • [06:04:09] <Differentkindof> What system wwiv? Tribbs?
  • [06:04:26] <dougztr> i know c relatively well... no my system was XBBS which was kind of an oddball
  • [06:04:48] <Differentkindof> Hehe I remember running into one maybe
  • [06:05:13] <dougztr> I ran The Citadel XBBS in State College PA
  • [06:05:14] <Differentkindof> Usually a lot of the ones I ran into were tri or wwiv tho...
  • [06:05:48] <Differentkindof> Hmm I sysoped the bbs that should not be in upstate ny and assisted like four more around there
  • [06:06:00] <dougztr> mine was actually hooked into the internet / usenet because I had a unix buddy and I got a usenet feed
  • [06:06:40] <Differentkindof> Hehe 28.8 here but did nightly connections to network a few forums
  • [06:06:42] <Differentkindof> Hehe
  • [06:07:03] <dougztr> oh yeah, i had a 14.4 *speedmodem*
  • [06:07:13] <dougztr> lol
  • [06:07:41] <dougztr> it was very popular, usually there was somebody always logged in playing the games
  • [06:07:41] <Differentkindof> \m/ totally ot but so fun which terminal programs did you rock to
  • [06:07:50] <Differentkindof> Telemate was my favorite
  • [06:08:06] <dougztr> i ran the bbs , so i didn't need a terminal
  • [06:08:20] <Differentkindof> Yeah early compters make me so happy that the pandora leaking at 486/90 is aok
  • [06:08:25] <dougztr> procom in desqview though probably
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  • [06:09:41] <tdh2002> hi everyone
  • [06:09:55] <tdh2002> beagle borad B6 usb host can't use ?
  • [06:10:22] <tdh2002> Does anyone resole it?
  • [06:10:46] <dougztr> huh? i
  • [06:10:58] <dougztr> I have a BB rev C4 and it works
  • [06:11:51] <dougztr> tdh2002: the really old ones had a problem with the USB host, but the rev C models fix that I think
  • [06:12:46] <dougztr> tdh2002: you need a usb 2.0 powered hub, and it has to be a good one
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  • [06:13:08] <tdh2002> Does anyone know where is the failure?
  • [06:13:29] <dougztr> tdh2002: what revision board do you have?
  • [06:13:38] <tdh2002> rev B6
  • [06:14:59] <tdh2002> dougztr: we make new board like beagle , but the usb host doesn't work
  • [06:15:12] <dougztr> tdh2002: it might be broken on those boards, the OTG port should work, IDK you will have to wait until people who know more log in, 12 hours
  • [06:15:41] <dougztr> tdh2002: the old experts aren't here right now
  • [06:16:26] <dougztr> tdh2002: copy the rev C4 board, it works perfectly
  • [06:17:12] <tdh2002> dougztr:do you know when the old experts are hehe?
  • [06:17:43] <dougztr> tdh2002: about 12 hours from now this channel will be most active
  • [06:18:15] <dougztr> 8-12 hours
  • [06:18:25] <tdh2002> well , that time I am sleeping !
  • [06:18:36] <dougztr> china?
  • [06:18:43] <tdh2002> Yes
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  • [06:19:27] <dougztr> haha, i guessed it, yes, most of the experts are in the US, so half way around the world from you
  • [06:19:51] <dougztr> around 10:00 new york time a lot of people are on here
  • [06:20:28] <dougztr> that would be the best time to ask
  • [06:20:38] <tdh2002> what is your time now?
  • [06:20:48] <tdh2002> Our time is PM 2:20
  • [06:20:53] <dougztr> 01:20am
  • [06:21:06] <dougztr> middle of the night
  • [06:21:19] <tdh2002> you don't sleep?
  • [06:21:32] <dougztr> i sleep when i am tired :-)
  • [06:21:44] <dougztr> no job...
  • [06:22:34] <tdh2002> free job
  • [06:23:30] <dougztr> i answer questions if i can help for something to do, sometimes i learn things
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  • [06:24:54] <dougztr> tdh2002: but it you copied B6, there might be a problem with the USB host, I know C4 works though
  • [06:25:09] <dougztr> They fixed it completely in C4
  • [06:25:37] <dougztr> B6 is really old
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  • [06:26:01] <kblin> hey.. ;)
  • [06:26:08] <dougztr> I'm surprised, Hong Kong is usually years ahead in tech stuff
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  • [06:26:57] <dougztr> kblin: does your USB Host port work?
  • [06:27:43] <kblin> of course not. I was just extrapolating my age counted in revB6 release times :)
  • [06:28:12] <dougztr> O_o
  • [06:28:17] <kblin> I didn't try to solder on a usb port on my B6
  • [06:29:23] <dougztr> I have a shiny new C4 thats working like a charm, fwiw
  • [06:30:40] <dougztr> Snoopy # uptime
  • [06:30:40] <dougztr> 01:30:12 up 11 days, 43 min, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
  • [06:31:41] <dougztr> Linux snoopy 2.6.32.8-omap #1 PREEMPT Fri Feb 12 08:33:02 EST 2010 armv7l ARMv7 Processor rev 3 (v7l) OMAP3 Beagle Board GNU/Linux
  • [06:32:00] <tdh2002> ???.
  • [06:34:19] <tdh2002> Linux beagleboard 2.6.33 #8 Thu Mar 4 17:04:19 CST 2010 armv7l GNU/Linux
  • [06:34:49] <dougztr> Whoa There! 2.6.33!
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  • [06:35:43] <kblin> it seems to be working ok with my C3. I had some stability problems before, but those seem to be a thing of the past
  • [06:35:51] <dougztr> tdh2002: you know that u-boot sets up the voltage rails for the USB Host port (EHCI port) and if u-boot is too old or not right, it won't work
  • [06:36:26] <tdh2002> dougztr: Do you use beagle board for net play?
  • [06:36:54] <dougztr> tdh2002: not really, it is a hobby box, I use it as a toy server
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  • [06:37:09] <tdh2002> dougztr: i use the lastest u-boot!
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  • [06:37:55] <dougztr> ok well, that may or may not be the problem then. do you have kernel errors for the EHCI port?
  • [06:38:35] <dougztr> thats weird, my BB still isn't talking ipv6, wonder what the problem is
  • [06:39:27] <tdh2002> dougztr: No errors!
  • [06:39:27] <tdh2002> usbmon: debugfs is not available
  • [06:39:27] <tdh2002> ehci_hcd: USB 2.0 'Enhanced' Host Controller (EHCI) Driver
  • [06:39:27] <tdh2002> ehci-omap ehci-omap.0: OMAP-EHCI Host Controller
  • [06:39:27] <tdh2002> ehci-omap ehci-omap.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
  • [06:39:28] <tdh2002> ehci-omap ehci-omap.0: irq 77, io mem 0x48064800
  • [06:39:28] <tdh2002> ehci-omap ehci-omap.0: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 1.00
  • [06:39:29] <tdh2002> hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found
  • [06:39:29] <tdh2002> hub 2-0:1.0: 3 ports detected
  • [06:39:54] <kblin> dougztr: I take you run angstrom?
  • [06:40:15] <dougztr> kblin: no way, gentoo arm
  • [06:40:45] <dougztr> kblin: I cross-compiled gentoo
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  • [06:41:42] <kblin> dougztr: ok, both my beagles do ipv6 just fine with kernel 2.6.32.7-x7.1 from rcn-ee (ubuntu-arm)
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  • [06:42:17] <dougztr> kblin: I think I might have un-checked ipv6 for snoopy's kernel, I should look into it
  • [06:42:19] <kblin> so provided your kernel comes with ipv6, I don't see why this wouldn't work
  • [06:42:37] <kblin> unless... what network adapter do you use?
  • [06:43:22] <dougztr> kblin: iggy the igepv6 is ipv6 capable, you can ping6 him at "2001:4830:16e9:0:3c0a:ffff:fe8e:7970'
  • [06:43:53] <dougztr> kblin: snoopy is on wifi using a rt73 dongle
  • [06:44:23] <kblin> ah, not sure about wifi, my beagles are all on ethernet
  • [06:44:49] <kblin> but I do remember weird ipv6 problems with a dm9601 chipsed ethernet dongle
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  • [06:45:01] <kblin> chipset, durn it
  • [06:45:06] <dougztr> kblin: probably a kernel error, i'll make him a new kernel and make sure it has ipv6
  • [06:45:07] <kblin> need more coffee
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  • [06:45:29] * dougztr is on beer, its after midnight
  • [06:46:30] <kblin> it's waay after midnight here ;)
  • [06:46:48] <dougztr> i'm hooked on ipv6 though, i love it. check out my ipv6 netwinder at http://gnat.mechalogic.net
  • [06:47:52] <dougztr> the netwinder is a StrongArm SA110, its like BeagleBoard's GrandPa
  • [06:49:20] <kblin> I'd be more hooked on ipv6 if I could get any work done using it :)
  • [06:49:46] <tdh2002> but why do you use ipv6?
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  • [06:50:37] <dougztr> tdh2002: I use it to have routable systems behind a dynamic ipv4 NAT
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  • [06:59:27] <dougztr> tdh2002: i thought you chinese were early adopters of ipv6
  • [06:59:52] <Crofton> affordable application device, rofl
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  • [07:01:29] <dougztr> anybody have EMC working on a BB? -> http://www.linuxcnc.org/
  • [07:01:50] <dougztr> my future job might hinge on running that on a BB
  • [07:03:12] <tdh2002> EMC use gtk or qt?
  • [07:03:13] <dougztr> well, if the prototype works, then we will license BB and mass-produce our own boards
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  • [07:03:56] <dougztr> tdh2002: I think it uses gtk
  • [07:04:23] <Crofton> no OE recipe, yet
  • [07:04:50] <Crofton> ping me when I am back from vacation and I can do a wuick test to see if it builds
  • [07:04:51] <dougztr> tdh2002: It has been a couple years since I fooled with EMC, I need to refresh *now*
  • [07:05:16] <dougztr> Crofton: where are you off to?
  • [07:05:26] <Crofton> I am in Germnay at the moment
  • [07:05:49] <Crofton> I was at a workshop for work, today I am off to Austria for some skiing
  • [07:05:52] * dougztr needs to get out of the US
  • [07:05:54] <Crofton> beack very late next week
  • [07:06:02] <dougztr> I want to defect
  • [07:06:08] <Crofton> heh
  • [07:06:41] <dougztr> I hate this place
  • [07:07:31] * dougztr sucks it up
  • [07:08:00] <dougztr> At my age, too late to move on
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  • [07:11:28] <lilly> i would like to disable L1 cache and enable L2 cache on beagle board in kernel image, how can i do that?
  • [07:12:42] <dougztr> lilly: i don't think you can, never seen a question like yours before, thats bios stuff, so look into u-boot
  • [07:13:51] <dougztr> lilly: just curious buy why do you want to do that?
  • [07:14:40] <siji> btw, wht's EMC
  • [07:15:25] <dougztr> siji: I posted a link for EMC -> Enhanced Machine Controller http://www.linuxcnc.org/
  • [07:15:41] <siji> ok,thanks
  • [07:15:49] <dougztr> Its a CNC control program, like run a milling machine using linux
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  • [07:17:31] <dougztr> a nice trick would be to port EMC to BB and use all the GPIO outputs to control the machine
  • [07:18:36] <dougztr> Essentially a BB running a CNC machine, cut out the $500k Fanuc middleman, whats not to like?
  • [07:19:23] <Crofton> dougztr, if you need something in volume, also look into gumstix
  • [07:19:27] <dougztr> Sure you need some triacs connected to the GPIO pins and whatnot, but still
  • [07:19:46] <dougztr> Crofton: yeah well BB is prototype only, i know that
  • [07:21:16] <tdh2002> dougztr: Well it will be nice
  • [07:21:24] <dougztr> Crofton: I think I got some points on my phone interview on this job today, I said "did you consider a beagleboard" and he said "I have one" and I said "I have two"
  • [07:21:48] <Crofton> hahahah
  • [07:22:22] <dougztr> Indusrty is really coming around to Linux, I think I will find a nice job soon
  • [07:22:31] <Crofton> thats good to hear
  • [07:22:33] <dougztr> *Industry
  • [07:22:42] <siji> Great News
  • [07:23:16] <siji> dougztr, Great concept
  • [07:23:19] <dougztr> Yeah well, I haven't worked for 2 years. Its all been a lot of fun and games and stuff, but I'm freaking bored silly
  • [07:23:33] <siji> I think u should try with Hawkboard too
  • [07:23:52] <dougztr> Those are pretty neat but I don't have one
  • [07:24:12] <siji> I think they start delivering now
  • [07:24:26] <siji> u catch khasim somewhere here only
  • [07:24:44] <dougztr> I've had Arm systems running linux for about 10 years now though
  • [07:25:00] <dougztr> Guess I'm a mini-expert almost
  • [07:25:05] <siji> :)
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  • [07:25:37] <siji> correction "Large-expert " :)
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  • [07:25:57] <dougztr> I had no problems whatsoever getting gentoo running on my BB, took a couple days
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  • [07:27:36] <dougztr> I mean most of you really wouldn't want to run gentoo on a BB, for practical reasons and whatnot,
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  • [07:29:06] <dougztr> I do it to have a massive native development platform, and I speed it up by using cross-distcc to access my arm cross-compilers on my phenom box
  • [07:30:18] <dougztr> So my BB can use its big brother, a 2.8GHz Phenom quad core as its compiling helper
  • [07:30:47] <tdh2002> dougztr: how long have you work with linux ?
  • [07:30:51] <dougztr> Speeds things up tremendously as you can imagine :-)
  • [07:31:07] <dougztr> tdh2002: 18 years
  • [07:31:42] <dougztr> tdh2002: since 1993
  • [07:31:42] <tdh2002> Oh my god
  • [07:31:47] <tdh2002> Linux born 1991
  • [07:32:10] <tdh2002> dougztr: And how old are you?
  • [07:32:24] <dougztr> tdh2002: 42 years old
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  • [07:33:35] <dougztr> yeah i have almost 20 years linux experience
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  • [07:33:52] <tdh2002> dougztr: I work with linux for 3yeras and I am 27 years old
  • [07:34:17] <sabL> Hello,All
  • [07:34:19] <dougztr> tdh2002: not bad
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  • [07:35:34] <dougztr> i used to use debian until gentoo got invented then i switched and never looked back
  • [07:35:37] <tdh2002> I use at91sam9263 in 2008-2010, now I must use omap 3530
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  • [07:36:02] <tdh2002> .. I use ubuntu now!,,
  • [07:36:13] <sabL> can I use RVDS with the beagle board(as host)
  • [07:36:37] <dougztr> i prefer to compile my own operating systems, i can do better than ubuntu
  • [07:37:47] <chakie_work> dougztr: so you started with a big pile of floppy disks and SLS or so?
  • [07:38:55] <sabL> Am a newbie for BB,I wanted to use Beagleboard as a target device.Is there anyway I can communicate other than using JTAG-for image loading and debugging?
  • [07:38:57] <dougztr> chakie_work: yes big pile of floppy discs, and debian 0.97
  • [07:39:38] <dougztr> chakie_work: I downloaded them from the Penn State mainframe using Kermit and zmodem
  • [07:39:52] <chakie_work> :)
  • [07:39:55] <tdh2002> long long ago
  • [07:40:17] <chakie_work> i used to copy them in batches of 10 floppies per day, go home, install 9, find the 10th broken. repeat
  • [07:40:36] <dougztr> chakie_work: yeah it was horrible
  • [07:40:46] <chakie_work> ftp.funet.fi was my souce
  • [07:40:57] <dougztr> that sounds familiar
  • [07:40:59] <chakie_work> linux' home
  • [07:41:07] <sabL> Hello is there anyone who could help me
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  • [07:41:36] <dougztr> i only had a 386 with an ega card so i never did get X working for several years, console only
  • [07:41:44] <chakie_work> heh
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  • [07:42:10] <sabL> Am a newbie for BB,I wanted to use Beagleboard as a target device.Is there anyway I can communicate other than using JTAG-for image loading and debugging?
  • [07:42:11] <chakie_work> i got mine in 1994, and had saved for ages for a p90 with 17" screen
  • [07:42:18] <ynezz> I know some nerds, which are console only until today...
  • [07:42:19] <chakie_work> it has such a killer at that time
  • [07:42:29] <tdh2002> Is it expensive to buy notebook in USA?
  • [07:42:40] <dougztr> still, compared to windows 3.0 or desqview, Linux was quite a step up
  • [07:42:57] <ynezz> there was that beos also
  • [07:42:59] <dougztr> tdh2002: not really 500-1000 dollars
  • [07:43:24] <dougztr> tdh2002: I have a used notebook that i only paid $300 for
  • [07:43:46] <chakie_work> dougztr: and when you could do your first package updates remotely over telnet, that was something to marvel over
  • [07:43:52] <dougztr> I never even use my notebook unless I am traveling
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  • [07:44:11] <tdh2002> one of my classmates now working in USA
  • [07:44:34] <dougztr> chakie_work: well debian could always do that once you got it installed, I started with debian 0.97
  • [07:44:53] <chakie_work> dougztr: i didn't find debian until some years later
  • [07:45:08] <dougztr> chakie_work: it used to take 20 hours to compile a kernel on my 386-40
  • [07:45:15] <chakie_work> heh
  • [07:45:31] <chakie_work> now you compile an os in less than half the time
  • [07:45:35] <dougztr> chakie_work: 1min 20secs on my phenom
  • [07:45:43] <tdh2002> 20 hours ...
  • [07:45:46] <chakie_work> i meant a whole OE
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  • [07:46:03] <chakie_work> but that's quite fast
  • [07:46:45] <dougztr> that was the kernel 2.2 also, miniscule by todays standards
  • [07:47:08] <tdh2002> 20 min my conpter, cpu is intel E7200
  • [07:48:36] <chakie_work> a kernel today is a bit bigger than it used to be 15 years ago
  • [07:48:49] <dougztr> I happily ran debian until about 2001 or so until I tried to join Debian, I went to a Debian conference in Canada, got my key signed, and then ran into all this BS. I got mad having run it for 10 years and they snubbed me. Switched to Gentoo about a year later
  • [07:50:04] <dougztr> I'm still not an official gentoo dev but I probably could become one if I pushed
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  • [07:50:52] <dougztr> I have submitted a lot of patches and bug reports over the years to gentoo, and know a lot of the devs from irc
  • [07:51:31] <tdh2002> I also want to join dev ,
  • [07:52:13] <dougztr> I don't want to push for it because I am unemployed and if I get a new job (which seems likely) I might not have much time to put into it
  • [07:53:41] <dougztr> Nothing worse than pushing for a opensource dev position then gimping out and not doing anything, imo
  • [07:53:55] <chakie_work> i looked at gentoo some years ago, but i found it a bit too elitistic
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  • [07:54:28] <tdh2002> what does elitistic mean
  • [07:54:57] <dougztr> chakie_work: I don't know about that, its all about compiling your own OS from source. Nothing hard about it really but there is a learning curve
  • [07:55:27] <chakie_work> dougztr: i know what it's about
  • [07:56:23] <dougztr> chakie_work: like for my BB, I compiled my OS for xfce4 and nothing else, so I have fully featured xfce4 desktop but not a bunch of kde stuff which I don't want for that system
  • [07:58:20] <dougztr> I just like gentoo, and the power it gives me to totally customize my OS, the closest competitor for BB would be OE which as I understand is really good too
  • [07:59:54] <dougztr> I don't want to come across as a gentoo advocate because there is a certain knowledge level you need to hit before gentoo is viable, and if you are a linux noob, then gentoo is way too hard
  • [08:00:22] <ynezz> and you need more time for gentoo
  • [08:00:54] <chakie_work> dougztr: i don't mean gentoo is bad technically. i meant the community i encountered was not friendly
  • [08:00:54] <tdh2002> i am not noob
  • [08:00:59] <dougztr> its better if you are new to linux to run ubuntu or angstrom or something until you *grow into* wanting gentoo, its hard to explain it otherwise
  • [08:01:36] <dougztr> chakie_work: yeah they can be mean if you ask noob questions
  • [08:02:40] <dougztr> chakie_work: The are mean to me on #gentoo sometimes (and I have run it for what, 8 years!)
  • [08:03:16] <chakie_work> dougztr: yes, so i didn't bother with it
  • [08:03:49] <dougztr> chakie_work: understandable, you know when you are ready for it, thats all i can say
  • [08:03:57] <chakie_work> :)
  • [08:04:25] <chakie_work> nowadays i just want my desktops to work and be fast to install. for playing i use things like the bb
  • [08:04:42] <dougztr> gentoo is kinda like a masters degree of linux or something
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  • [08:04:52] <chakie_work> if i want a new version of kde, i want it now, not after 10h
  • [08:05:22] <chakie_work> no, it's not. it's what gentooers want to believe for putting up with the community
  • [08:05:53] <dougztr> chakie_work: 10h. oh my that must be horrible
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  • [08:05:54] <chakie_work> "everyone flames me, but at least it was hard to install and slow to update"
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  • [08:06:21] <chakie_work> dougztr: the 10h is some approximation of what it would take to compile on a gentoo
  • [08:07:07] <dougztr> Whats the big deal, set it to run, do stuff, eventually it finishes in the background
  • [08:07:31] <chakie_work> heh
  • [08:07:41] <dougztr> 10 hours isnt much
  • [08:07:49] <chakie_work> i don't know what it takes
  • [08:08:02] <dougztr> Less than that on my Phenom
  • [08:08:04] <chakie_work> but there's 200 or so debian packages, some of which are quite big
  • [08:08:34] <chakie_work> but i agree, not everyone is made for gentoo and vice versa
  • [08:09:35] <dougztr> well ok, i hate to bust up this party but we are way offtopic for beagleboard, i could rant forever but i want to keep some rep here
  • [08:10:27] <dougztr> i have gentoo on my BB, works great, nuff said
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  • [08:11:36] <chakie_work> yes :)
  • [08:11:39] <chakie_work> i'm sorry
  • [08:12:09] <chakie_work> do you actually update your bb on your bb?
  • [08:12:18] <chakie_work> ie compile on it?
  • [08:14:04] <dougztr> yes but i have cross-distcc on my LAN to my phenom machine which has a armv7a cross compiler
  • [08:14:37] <dougztr> I have 5-6 gentoo hosts here?
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  • [08:15:01] <dougztr> I am a cross-compiling expert
  • [08:15:07] <kblin> chakie_work: I compile my samba installs natively on the beagle, that works in a reasonable time-frame :)
  • [08:15:43] <tdh2002> dougztr: Do you use 64 bit OS?
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  • [08:15:54] <dougztr> Well I first learned to cross-compile things 12 years ago
  • [08:16:05] <dougztr> tdh2002: yes 64bit all the way
  • [08:16:34] <dougztr> tdh2002: I have run full 64-bit systems for about 5 years
  • [08:16:57] <tdh2002> dougztr: great !
  • [08:16:57] <kblin> which reminds me to get back and poke that ppc cross-build
  • [08:17:02] <dougztr> tdh2002: except for BB its only 32bit
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  • [08:21:02] <chakie_work> i need to try to get a tiny kernel patch integrated into the oe build
  • [08:21:05] <chakie_work> daunting for a n00b like me :)
  • [08:21:38] <tdh2002> dougztr: I failed while crose-compiling openembedded ! thae make i am discouraged
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  • [09:23:08] <ChildOfGod> I plugged in a mouse in the USB port. I loaded usbserial module. The mouse does not light up. Is the USB port on my beagleboard broken?
  • [09:24:12] <ynezz> no, it's only hispeed
  • [09:24:16] <ynezz> you need usb hub
  • [09:24:42] <ChildOfGod> ynezz, ok. Here is some output while booting http://fpaste.org/y7Tw/
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  • [09:25:03] <ChildOfGod> ynezz, so is the USB on the go port supposed to work with devices?
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  • [09:25:20] <buZz> as long as you provide external power ;)
  • [09:25:31] <ChildOfGod> buZz, ok.
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  • [09:25:49] <ChildOfGod> So the USB port on the beagle does not provide power to connected devices?
  • [09:25:59] <buZz> there are two ports
  • [09:26:10] <ChildOfGod> ya, the smaller is the usbotg
  • [09:26:28] <buZz> one provides power but is usb2 only, other is usb otg, provides no power but supports usb 1 up tto 2
  • [09:27:02] <ChildOfGod> buZz, So the larger one is USB2. It doesnt light up my optical mouse , why?
  • [09:27:21] <buZz> because your mouse (like 99.9999% of other usb mouses) is usb1
  • [09:27:29] <ChildOfGod> buZz, ah!
  • [09:27:51] <buZz> thats why ynezz said you need a usb hub
  • [09:28:01] <ChildOfGod> buZz, So i now need either a USB2 mouse or a USB to USB to usbotg convertor?
  • [09:28:05] <ChildOfGod> ok.
  • [09:28:08] <buZz> because that will translate usb1 to usb2 for you
  • [09:28:17] <ChildOfGod> buZz, ynezz ok, thanks.
  • [09:28:49] <ChildOfGod> buZz, ynezz currently my board boots and i see the "New USer Details" output on the screen, but no way to give input :(
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  • [09:29:16] <ChildOfGod> I am booting angstorm
  • [09:29:31] <ChildOfGod> I have shell access on minicom.
  • [09:29:45] <ynezz> you can't login using minicom in gpe-login, use keyboard/mouse/touchscren
  • [09:30:08] <ChildOfGod> buZz, ynezz Any way to look at display 0:0 ?
  • [09:30:09] <ChildOfGod> ok.
  • [09:31:00] <girishr> maybe synergy2 can help
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  • [09:34:29] <_koen_> vnc is on by default
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  • [11:37:27] <lilly_> how can i replace u-bbot-f.bin file
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  • [12:10:06] <hrw> morning
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  • [13:27:35] <Brokie> hello all
  • [13:27:51] <Brokie> Anyone have experience with the KBOC BB2?
  • [13:28:12] <Brokie> I am trying to use the USB port on the device, but I have had 0 luck
  • [13:28:35] <Brokie> I know I have use of the USB on the device, because the ethernet works
  • [13:28:53] <Brokie> And on the KBOC the ethernet is attached directly to the USB
  • [13:29:33] <Brokie> but no matter what USB hub I use, it cannot see anything plugged into the hub
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  • [14:11:53] <Brokie> Anyone have experience with the KBOC BB2?
  • [14:11:56] <Brokie> I am trying to use the USB port on the device, but I have had 0 luck
  • [14:12:10] <Brokie> And on the KBOC the ethernet is attached directly to the USB
  • [14:12:12] <Brokie> but no matter what USB hub I use, it cannot see anything plugged into the hub
  • [14:12:14] <Brokie> Anyone have experience with the KBOC BB2?
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  • [14:44:29] <Brokie> Anyone have experience with the KBOC BB2?
  • [14:44:30] <Brokie> I am trying to use the USB port on the device, but I have had 0 luck
  • [14:44:33] <Brokie> And on the KBOC the ethernet is attached directly to the USB
  • [14:44:35] <Brokie> but no matter what USB hub I use, it cannot see anything plugged into the hub
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  • [15:20:12] <Brokie> Anyone have experience with the KBOC BB2?
  • [15:20:14] <Brokie> I am trying to use the USB port on the device, but I have had 0 luck
  • [15:20:15] <Brokie> And on the KBOC the ethernet is attached directly to the USB
  • [15:20:18] <Brokie> but no matter what USB hub I use, it cannot see anything plugged into the hub
  • [15:20:43] <Brokie> also, need to know how to modify X-loader to support MT29C4G48MAPLCJI pop memory
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  • [15:21:20] <Brokie> hello robtow
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  • [15:23:10] <_koen_> sweet
  • [15:23:15] <_koen_> http://chris-lamb.co.uk/2008/01/24/can-you-get-cp-to-give-a-progress-bar-like-wget/
  • [15:23:17] <Brokie> whats sweet?
  • [15:23:38] <Brokie> that is sweet
  • [15:23:40] <Brokie> lol
  • [15:24:08] <Brokie> hello koen
  • [15:24:25] <Brokie> any way I can get you to help me today?
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  • [15:26:08] <Brokie> I'll take that to mean "no"
  • [15:26:10] <Brokie> LOL
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  • [15:27:01] <Brokie> hello robtow
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  • [15:33:10] <Brokie> hello jkridner
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  • [15:33:15] <Brokie> lol
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  • [15:33:46] <Brokie> hello jkridner
  • [15:34:10] <Brokie> jkridner, if you have time, I need to know how to modify X-loader to support MT29C4G48MAPLCJI pop memory
  • [15:34:33] <jkridner> what memory is that?
  • [15:34:39] <Brokie> old 1.4.1 supported it, if accidentally, but 1.4.2 and newer appear to fail
  • [15:34:49] <Brokie> the memory on the KBOC
  • [15:34:49] <jkridner> is that the 512MB?
  • [15:34:53] <Brokie> yes
  • [15:35:17] <jkridner> I've got a patch for a 512MB memory, but I'll see if it is that one.
  • [15:35:19] <Brokie> 4Gb Nand, 2Gb DDR, 16 / 32 bits respectively
  • [15:35:47] <jkridner> Do you mean B? I always think b means bit.
  • [15:35:48] <Brokie> it's a huge thanks
  • [15:35:51] <Brokie> bit
  • [15:35:55] <Brokie> not Byte
  • [15:36:02] <Brokie> yes
  • [15:36:02] <jkridner> oh.., hou do mean bit.
  • [15:36:13] <jkridner> 512MB. k.
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  • [15:36:45] <Brokie> well, all those years in engineering school, ahve convinced me to call parts by their respective measurements, when referencing the id's given by the manufacturor
  • [15:37:15] <jkridner> you referenced right, my brain is just preoccupied.
  • [15:37:16] <sakoman> Brokie: try building from git://gitorious.org/x-load-omap3/mainline.git
  • [15:37:21] <Brokie> did
  • [15:37:23] <Brokie> no boot
  • [15:37:35] <sakoman> I just pushed a patch for additional nand support
  • [15:37:38] <Brokie> halts at "oneNAND unsupported"
  • [15:38:22] <Brokie> i can try again, if you think would help...
  • [15:38:29] <jkridner> k, I have a 2Gb patch for Micron MT46H...
  • [15:38:35] <Brokie> by just, do you mean, in the last 2 hours?
  • [15:38:37] <sakoman> Brokie: ah, that is onenand. the above mentioned patch won't help you. it is for the nand driver
  • [15:38:45] <Brokie> no
  • [15:38:47] <jkridner> Brokie: did you try to remove the OneNAND?
  • [15:38:54] <Brokie> its the micron part, not the samsung part
  • [15:39:47] <Brokie> I was merely telling you that the X-loader halts after telling me it doen't support my "ONENAND" part that is not a ONENAND part after all
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  • [15:40:38] <_koen_> I wonder why x-load doesn't just try sd, serial or usb boot after that
  • [15:41:05] <Brokie> Also, I was notified by the kind (yet very slow to respond) folks at kwikbyte, that the ethernet controller is connected directly to USB, would that not effect the USB port's ability to see a hub, or anything else for that matter?
  • [15:41:32] <Brokie> did I buy a crap board?
  • [15:41:57] <Brokie> _koen_, that would be too simple
  • [15:42:16] <Brokie> sakoman, no, I dont have onenand
  • [15:42:31] <Brokie> jkridner, it is not onenand
  • [15:42:59] <Brokie> by remove the onenand, do you mean physically from the board? or do you mean from the sources?
  • [15:43:17] <Brokie> because me likes having more than 64KB of ram... thank you very much
  • [15:43:35] <sakoman> _koen_: my x-load tries mmc first, then nand, and finally serial if nand is unprogrammed
  • [15:43:54] <Brokie> sakoman, mine halts
  • [15:44:03] <Brokie> poof... no more debug
  • [15:44:10] <sakoman> but if nand is not detected it hangs -- I need to fix that
  • [15:44:32] <sakoman> Brokie: so is your POP nand or onenand?
  • [15:44:59] <Brokie> sakoman, its MT29C4G48MAPLCJI, from micron, its 4Gb NAND, and 2Gb DDR
  • [15:45:50] <Brokie> sakoman, http://download.micron.com/pdf/datasheets/mcp/168ball_nand_lpdram_j4xx_omap.pdf <-- reference sheet given by the a$$hats at Kwikbyte
  • [15:45:57] <sakoman> then I suspect the patch I mentioned might work for you: http://www.sakoman.net/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=x-load-omap3.git;a=commitdiff;h=6e8d4788b96147a75ebdb9fb8e4de9e799d35252
  • [15:46:18] <Brokie> how long ago did you post the patch?
  • [15:46:40] <sakoman> look at the time stamp :-) Steve Sakoman [Fri, 5 Mar 2010 04:34:31 +0000 (20:34 -0800)]
  • [15:47:17] <Brokie> so, 26 minutes ago?
  • [15:48:12] <Brokie> I did Git pull 1 hour ago
  • [15:48:16] <Brokie> it wont boot
  • [15:48:39] <Brokie> BTW, no thanks to the OE pushers, I have a working cross compile environment
  • [15:48:52] <sakoman> those times are always GMT, so it was last night PST
  • [15:49:14] <Brokie> K
  • [15:49:15] <sakoman> Brokie: what machine did you build for?
  • [15:49:17] <Brokie> I did Git pull 1 hour ago
  • [15:49:24] <Brokie> KBOC BB2
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  • [15:49:32] <sakoman> do a git log to see if it is there
  • [15:49:39] <Brokie> lol?
  • [15:49:43] <Brokie> Newb here...
  • [15:50:06] <jkridner> "git log"
  • [15:50:45] <Brokie> commit 319b26586fafb86f919f514bcd175838aaab96b3
  • [15:50:45] <Brokie> Author: Steve Sakoman <sakoman@tera.(none)>
  • [15:50:45] <Brokie> Date: Fri Mar 6 08:01:31 2009 -0800
  • [15:50:45] <Brokie> cpu/omap3/config.mk: Set march to armv7-a
  • [15:50:45] <Brokie> commit 037a8ed45e9ecfffacfaab0b7a713fdde56d155a
  • [15:50:46] <Brokie> Author: Dirk Behme <dirk.behme@googlemail.com>
  • [15:50:48] <Brokie> Date: Sat Dec 20 11:35:12 2008 -0800
  • [15:50:50] <Brokie> OMAP3: X-Loader: Make MMC register macros volatile
  • [15:51:27] * jkridner wonders what Brokie's origin is.
  • [15:51:36] <Brokie> commit 6e8d4788b96147a75ebdb9fb8e4de9e799d35252
  • [15:51:36] <Brokie> Author: Steve Sakoman <steve@sakoman.com>
  • [15:51:36] <Brokie> Date: Thu Mar 4 20:34:31 2010 -0800
  • [15:51:36] <Brokie> drivers/k9f1g08r0a.c: additional nand vendor/device id's
  • [15:51:39] <Brokie> Florida
  • [15:51:53] <ynezz> :D
  • [15:51:55] <jkridner> two different logs/checkouts?
  • [15:51:57] <Brokie> I'm working on 3 projects with OMAP
  • [15:52:07] <sakoman> Brokie: there isn't support for KBOC in my git repo, so I'm not sure how you built for that machine!
  • [15:52:10] <Brokie> I didn't want to paste entire log, foo
  • [15:52:49] <Brokie> sakoman, up until 1.4.2, the board worked
  • [15:52:51] <jkridner> Brokie: k, you can use pastebin.com to give a big contiguous chunk at the beginning of the output.
  • [15:53:42] <jkridner> it has been many, many months since 1.4.2 initial release, as far as I recall.
  • [15:54:08] <Brokie> http://www.pastebin.ca/1823876
  • [15:54:36] <Brokie> ok, so what can me do to support the kbox with newer X-load?
  • [15:54:50] <Brokie> Because I cannot find 1.4.1 for NAND anywhere
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  • [15:55:23] <Brokie> and kwikbyte fookers are as helpful as a sneeze
  • [15:56:09] <jkridner> did your board change or just what you are trying to do with it?
  • [15:56:17] <Brokie> stock
  • [15:56:35] <jkridner> 1.4.1 was working on your kwikbyte board, right?
  • [15:56:36] <Brokie> Not having to use MiniSD to boot would be a good start
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  • [15:56:39] <Brokie> yes
  • [15:56:53] <jkridner> ah, so you want to switch to booting from NAND.
  • [15:56:55] <Brokie> I dont want to have to boot with SD card everytime
  • [15:56:59] <Brokie> YES
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  • [15:57:48] <Brokie> lol
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  • [15:58:08] <jkridner> they might have modified their x-loader with different pin mux settings....
  • [15:58:13] <jkridner> not sure if that could be a problem for you.
  • [15:58:22] <Brokie> the board didn't come with an x-loader
  • [15:58:23] <jkridner> did you have a set of working x-loader source?
  • [15:58:29] <Brokie> NO
  • [15:58:33] <Brokie> thats my problem
  • [15:58:42] <jkridner> so, x-loader never worked on it?
  • [15:58:46] <Brokie> and their FTP does not have sources for working x-loader
  • [15:58:56] <Brokie> 1.4.1 works, from MMC
  • [15:59:32] <jkridner> what did they ship on the board. I think x-loader is GPLv2, so they are required to give you the source if it was on the board when you got it.
  • [15:59:41] <Brokie> it was blank
  • [15:59:46] <jkridner> ah. :(
  • [16:00:02] <Brokie> like me said
  • [16:00:05] <Brokie> 1.4.1 works
  • [16:00:20] <jkridner> but not with NAND.
  • [16:00:24] <Brokie> but there is no x-load.bin.ift compiled for nand use at 1.4.1 for me to try
  • [16:00:43] <Brokie> here's the kicker
  • [16:00:56] <Brokie> if i put x-load 1.4.2 on mmc, it fails to boot also
  • [16:01:03] <jkridner> My suggestion to comment out the OneNAND code was to try to simply get it past that point. It could hang due to the pin mux settings or other funny reasons because it isn't configured for your board.
  • [16:01:03] <Brokie> 1.4.3 same
  • [16:01:21] <Brokie> i though it was a BB clone
  • [16:01:51] <sakoman> Brokie: could you pastebin the output you get from using x-load built from git?
  • [16:02:08] <Brokie> by clone, I thought that meant that things for BB would at least FUNCTION
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  • [16:02:33] <Brokie> it shows the X-loader version
  • [16:02:36] <jkridner> I'm not sure how similar, since I don't have one, but I'd guess it'd be pretty close. Did you get the schematics to confirm?
  • [16:02:42] <Brokie> then "ONENAND UNSUPPORTED"
  • [16:03:02] <Brokie> then it says "X-load halts"
  • [16:03:21] <Brokie> yes
  • [16:03:29] <Brokie> Schematics on Kwikbyte site
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  • [16:03:51] <Brokie> never took the time to confirm
  • [16:04:50] <Brokie> What the helpless fookers at kwikbyte say, is simply that the only difference between the BB and the KBOC BB2 is the Ethernet (which I think conflicts with normal USB usage) and the different pop memory
  • [16:05:29] <Brokie> they do less supporting and more annoying
  • [16:05:36] <jkridner> KBOC_BB2?
  • [16:05:47] <Brokie> Am I talking to myself?
  • [16:06:14] <jkridner> Well, sakoman is too nice, otherwise he'd recommend you buy a Gumstix.
  • [16:06:37] <Brokie> they were out of stock when I started this project
  • [16:06:49] <Brokie> I have 340 units here, and no way to program them
  • [16:06:50] <jkridner> I just don't have any experience with the Kwikbyte other than it looks like nice features at a nice price.
  • [16:07:13] <Brokie> its shat, support is shat, and I'm beginning to resent my purchase
  • [16:07:14] <jkridner> Is it the KBOC_BB2?
  • [16:07:17] <Brokie> YES
  • [16:07:17] <prpplague> Brokie: yea the kwikbytes folks aren't that helpful, the kboc is a decent board, just no real support from kwikbytes
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  • [16:07:30] <Brokie> USB is useless
  • [16:07:38] <prpplague> Brokie: yea
  • [16:07:39] <Brokie> they put the Ethernet on the USB
  • [16:07:53] <prpplague> Brokie: i never use the usb stuff
  • [16:07:57] <sakoman> Brokie: the version string is important info. What does it say?
  • [16:07:57] <Brokie> so any attempt to use USB, is conflicted by the Ethernet chip
  • [16:08:15] <Brokie> Let me boot it again... gimme a few mins
  • [16:08:38] <Brokie> prpplague, how do you use keyboard? Mouse?
  • [16:08:48] <prpplague> Brokie: i don't
  • [16:09:00] <Brokie> its useless to me without keyboard and mouse
  • [16:09:01] <prpplague> Brokie: all of my devices use lcd and touch screen
  • [16:09:06] <Brokie> unless I use irda
  • [16:09:35] <jkridner> prpplague: so, you use the KBOC_BB2?
  • [16:09:57] <prpplague> no, just the kboc not the base board
  • [16:10:39] <prpplague> jkridner: http://www.rad-tech-labs.com/images/PICCture_Board.jpg http://www.rad-tech-labs.com/images/PICCture_Board2.jpg
  • [16:11:17] <jkridner> prpplague: have you figured out how to boot from the on-board NAND?
  • [16:12:41] <prpplague> jkridner: yea there are some tweaks that have to be done to x-load and u-boot for full support
  • [16:15:21] <Brokie> I will be back, I have to find my SD card adapter
  • [16:27:29] <jkridner> prpplague: any patch you can share to help Brokie?
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  • [16:28:49] <Brokie> ME?
  • [16:28:52] <prpplague> oops
  • [16:29:28] <prpplague> jkridner: nothing atm, the product hasn't been release yet and the customer wants to wait on release GPL in conjunction with the product release
  • [16:30:55] <jkridner> Brokie: yeah, I think prpplague has code that does what you need, but I might not be understanding 100%.
  • [16:31:58] <Brokie> It works
  • [16:32:06] <Brokie> Son of a biscuit it worked
  • [16:32:40] <sakoman> I suspected it might
  • [16:32:41] <jkridner> :-D
  • [16:32:57] <jkridner> did I mention that sakoman is too nice?
  • [16:32:58] <Brokie> lol
  • [16:33:09] <prpplague> hehe
  • [16:33:14] <Brokie> Let me see if it will boot from nand, when I recompile for NAND
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  • [16:33:45] <jlebrech> hi all
  • [16:34:23] <jlebrech> has anyone combined beagleboard with a umts modem?
  • [16:34:30] <Brokie> yes
  • [16:34:40] <Brokie> not beagleboard, but another BB clone
  • [16:35:49] <jlebrech> I would love to play my own phone device :D
  • [16:36:09] <Brokie> well, depending on the UMTS device, you wont get voice services
  • [16:36:18] <Brokie> you would be forced to use data only
  • [16:37:04] <jlebrech> oh right, thats a bit of a shame
  • [16:37:25] <jlebrech> saw huawei did some really linux compatible devives
  • [16:38:23] <muriani> oook.. maemo rootfs on the beagle SD
  • [16:38:33] <muriani> now to figure out booting
  • [16:38:46] <Brokie> the good news is, if your UMTS modem has voice support, you can use /dev/dsp# where # is the DSP number of the device
  • [16:39:24] <jlebrech> can you connect to another phone too?
  • [16:39:26] <jlebrech> dial?
  • [16:40:00] <Brokie> you would dial with modem commands, and would set the device to handoff after dialing
  • [16:40:07] <Brokie> like
  • [16:40:26] <Brokie> ATDT############,ATH1+++ATH1
  • [16:41:03] <Brokie> but only a few UMTS devices are supported by linux
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  • [16:42:24] <jlebrech> yeh, i just saw one that did, and i thought of beagleboard to go with it
  • [16:42:40] <Brokie> well
  • [16:42:58] <Brokie> Now you need to find out wether or not voice is carried over the driver
  • [16:43:00] <Brokie> and
  • [16:43:05] <Brokie> You need codec for the DSP
  • [16:43:27] <Brokie> generally, they use some ADPCM derivitive
  • [16:43:45] <jlebrech> so a bit more difficult that is seems?
  • [16:43:51] <Brokie> no
  • [16:43:56] <Brokie> Just unlikely
  • [16:44:19] <jlebrech> can't just test if i can make phone calls on my laptop, using the modem an a calling app.
  • [16:44:29] <jlebrech> then just use somethign smaller
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  • [16:56:36] <noooomem> hey.. I followed the beginning steps for loading angstrom and all I get is an orange screen
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  • [17:00:13] <noooomem> anyone just stuck at that orange screen when the load it?
  • [17:00:36] <Brokie> Orange Screen?
  • [17:00:38] <DanaG> Do you have a serial console hooked up?
  • [17:00:48] <noooomem> no, not right now. not available.
  • [17:00:55] <Brokie> did you setup the omapfb.mode settings?
  • [17:00:58] <noooomem> yes Brokie
  • [17:01:06] <noooomem> Brokie: what is that?
  • [17:01:11] <Brokie> what did you use, and what are you using as a monitor?
  • [17:01:17] <Brokie> lol
  • [17:01:21] <Brokie> Take that as a no
  • [17:01:24] <noooomem> Brokie: yeah, no.
  • [17:01:28] <Brokie> lol
  • [17:01:34] <noooomem> Brokie: using a dvi monitor as output
  • [17:01:44] <Brokie> google omapfb.mode
  • [17:01:45] <noooomem> Brokie: just followed the beginner guide. no mention of that.
  • [17:01:56] <Brokie> ya, I had that ptolem too
  • [17:02:01] <Brokie> google omapfb.mode
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  • [17:03:17] <noooomem> I see things mentioned about the parameter.. but where exactly do I change it?
  • [17:05:39] <ppotera_> you get an orange screen with the new u-boot. If it's not confiured to autoboot, that's all you'll see
  • [17:08:28] <noooomem> ppotera_: I see, can I make this configuration without serial console?
  • [17:08:43] <ppotera_> no
  • [17:08:47] <noooomem> damn it, ok
  • [17:09:18] <ppotera_> u-boot setting are stored in nand
  • [17:09:57] <noooomem> kk, I just made a new memory card, it used to work with an older card
  • [17:10:27] <ppotera_> hmmm\
  • [17:10:44] <ppotera_> I suggest you get the console going...
  • [17:10:47] <noooomem> I'll look at it later, thanks for the tip ppotera_
  • [17:10:51] <ppotera_> np
  • [17:12:32] <Brokie> How to send u-boot to board over kermit?
  • [17:12:38] <Brokie> I try and stops here...
  • [17:12:40] <Brokie> Texas Instruments X-Loader 1.4.3 (Mar 5 2010 - 11:37:38)
  • [17:12:40] <Brokie> Loading u-boot.bin from nand
  • [17:12:40] <Brokie> Blank nand/onenand contents, attempting serial boot . . .
  • [17:12:40] <Brokie> ## Ready for binary (kermit) download to 0x80008000 at 115200 bps...
  • [17:13:05] <Brokie> I choose u-boot.bin, and it never appears to send it
  • [17:13:12] <Brokie> ...
  • [17:13:15] <Brokie> Using minicom
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  • [17:18:46] <sakoman> Brokie: it would be simpler to make a bootable sd card and then use linux to write u-boot, kernel, etc
  • [17:19:58] <sakoman> Brokie: then you could use a script like this: http://www.gumstix.net/Setup-and-Programming/view/Overo-Setup-and-Programming/Writing-images-to-onboard-nand/111.html
  • [17:20:31] <sakoman> but it is quite possible to use serial download to do this too
  • [17:20:58] <sakoman> haven't used minicom, so I can't tell you how to do a kermit download from there
  • [17:21:20] <sakoman> I just use kermit
  • [17:22:22] <DanaG> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardRecovery
  • [17:22:34] <DanaG> that may help.
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  • [17:29:41] <Brokie> how to use Kermit?
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  • [17:38:03] <muriani> heyoh peoples
  • [17:38:41] <muriani> anyone here have experience getting maemo running on the beagle? Following the omappedia wiki, and there's a step that I can seem to get done.
  • [17:38:56] <muriani> http://omappedia.org/wiki/Maemo_Getting_Started#Patching_of_configuration_files <-- that step
  • [17:42:56] <muriani> nevermind, I think I got it.
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  • [18:28:32] <muriani> damnit
  • [18:28:40] <muriani> I wish I could find my beagle serial cable
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  • [18:41:24] <default> So, now who's mind do I have to pick to lear how to build the kernel modules, without using bitbake?
  • [18:41:49] <default> (_koen_) I tried bitbake, its way too complicated for me, to even start...
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  • [19:53:30] <jbrouault> hi, are the patched kernel sources for zippy2 expansion board available anywhere please ?
  • [19:57:32] <jbrouault> We made our own expansion card, and want to use I2C bus #2 which seems disabled by default. We don't know a lot about kernel development, and wanted to know if patching the kernel is really needed to make it work
  • [19:57:37] <_koen_> jbrouault: no, but you should be able to adapt the zippy1 patches quite easily
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  • [19:58:44] <jbrouault> _koen_: ok thanks
  • [20:00:18] <_koen_> AIUI only the SPI portion changed
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  • [20:36:40] <muriani> curses!
  • [20:37:08] <muriani> maemo seems to boot, but no video
  • [20:37:13] <muriani> just the beagleboard.org logo
  • [20:37:29] <muriani> and I can't find my serial cable to watch what's going on
  • [20:42:51] <hrw> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzPJWvE5RfU - one BUG + 8 usb webcams
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  • [20:58:25] * mru watches hrw's vid and has an idea
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  • [21:01:12] <hrw|gone> mru: ;) mail me then
  • [21:01:32] <mru> feed it to the video wall of course
  • [21:01:56] <mru> helmet-mounted octocam with wireless feed to the wall
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  • [21:42:55] <willy__> hi
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  • [22:00:26] <ds2> Morning
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  • [22:09:15] <mru> morning ds2
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  • [22:11:50] <willy__> any ideea why the monitor complains that there is a DVI signal error? actually the board worked well few days ago. I have no sd card inserted
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  • [22:13:45] <willy__> dvimode=1024x768MR-16@60 and defaultdisplay is dvi
  • [22:14:13] <willy__> that is what i got from printenv
  • [22:14:34] <willy__> any ideea?
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  • [22:16:52] <default> willy, what uImage?
  • [22:16:56] <default> sorry
  • [22:17:05] <default> willy__, what uImage are you using?
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  • [22:19:58] <willy__> the one from the Agstrom demo images
  • [22:21:03] <willy__> uImage-2.6.29-r47-beagleboard.bin
  • [22:21:15] <willy__> I have a c4 board
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  • [22:28:56] <willy__> I still hope that the hardware is not damaged, so I try to restore the factory settings
  • [22:33:20] <default> ic
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