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  • [00:43:58] <mru> maybe you should try a tickless kernel
  • [00:44:04] <mru> moments last longer with those
  • [00:52:28] <Animule> oOoooh, road cones!
  • [00:53:33] <buZz> hmmm, 35 euro dvi-d screen :P
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  • [01:45:20] <mru> vvv
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  • [01:59:12] <ds2> yippeeee 800x480 mini LCD works!
  • [02:05:54] <muriani> sweet
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  • [03:21:14] <ltaps> Is there anyone out there?
  • [03:21:23] <dougztr> sorta
  • [03:23:53] <ltaps> I'm trying to figure out how to to write to the DSS.VENC_OUTPUT_CONTROL[2] CHROMA_ENABLE bits to switch from s-video to composite....
  • [03:24:26] <dougztr> maybe somebody else knows, i don't have a clue
  • [03:24:40] <ltaps> I think you're the only one listening...
  • [03:24:52] <ltaps> thanks for responding though....
  • [03:25:01] <dougztr> usually there are a lot of people on in the mornings
  • [03:25:31] <ltaps> I'll try then.
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  • [06:37:28] <_av500_> ds2: pics
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  • [06:48:33] <DanaG> Unable to modify wakeup on non-wakeup GPIO7
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  • [06:51:23] <DanaG> Class driver suspend failed for cpu0
  • [06:59:48] <cwillu_at_work> """On modern architectures, decompression is very fast; in non-trivial cases able to exceed the speed of a straight memory-to-memory copy due to the reduced memory-reads."""
  • [06:59:57] <cwillu_at_work> why do I feel a sudden urge to implement a neon accelerated fb with blit support making use of that? :)
  • [07:00:17] <cwillu_at_work> (re: lzo decompression speeds)
  • [07:00:38] <cwillu_at_work> I'd take slower fb writes to gain faster scrolling
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  • [07:26:55] <_av500_> cwillu_at_work: ???
  • [07:27:33] <cwillu_at_work> hi
  • [07:29:40] <cwillu_at_work> basically basically composite the actual framebuffer (which things would no longer write to directly) by uncompressing things from lzop-compressed back buffers
  • [07:30:09] <cwillu_at_work> drawing operations are slower, but move operations are quicker
  • [07:30:26] <cwillu_at_work> (no, I don't think we should actually do this :p)
  • [07:30:37] <_av500_> i doubt you would see benefit
  • [07:30:50] <_av500_> and move you can offload to dma
  • [07:31:03] <cwillu_at_work> by which you mean neon?
  • [07:31:05] <_av500_> so u dont lose cpu on it
  • [07:31:09] <_av500_> no, dma
  • [07:31:27] <cwillu_at_work> if we can do that, why the hell is scrolling slow? :p
  • [07:31:36] <_av500_> no dma
  • [07:32:23] <raster> cwillu_at_work: what resolution, what soc? whats your mem bandwidht?
  • [07:32:51] <cwillu_at_work> beagleboard, 1280x1024
  • [07:32:55] <raster> and trust me.. trying to do compression is only going to hurt you in the end.
  • [07:33:03] <raster> hmm ok
  • [07:33:06] <raster> well u are pushing the video out
  • [07:33:17] <cwillu_at_work> geez, what part of "(no, I don't think we should actually do this :p)" made the joke nature of this unclear? :p;
  • [07:33:23] <raster> how are u scrolling?
  • [07:33:35] <cwillu_at_work> under x, fullscreen app
  • [07:33:36] <_av500_> raster: gday
  • [07:33:43] <raster> _av500_: boo!
  • [07:33:45] <cwillu_at_work> via pixman
  • [07:33:53] <cwillu_at_work> , if I understand things correctly
  • [07:33:54] <raster> cwillu_at_work: what toolkit - how is it scrolling?
  • [07:33:56] <eFfeM-work> gm
  • [07:34:07] <cwillu_at_work> gtk
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  • [07:35:25] <raster> cwillu_at_work: compositor running or not?
  • [07:35:43] <_av500_> eFfeM-work: btw, did the added C help in the end? i still have to add mine
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  • [07:36:11] <raster> for plain gtk tho with a plain thing scrolling it should be ok
  • [07:36:17] <raster> about the same speed u can move a window around
  • [07:36:28] <cwillu_at_work> no compositor
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  • [07:36:41] <cwillu_at_work> let me check the moving speed in comparison, haven't looked in a while
  • [07:36:56] <raster> but 12380x1024 is well on the upper end if not beyond the kind of res u want to hande nicely on an omap3530
  • [07:37:03] <eFfeM-work> _av500_: i think it did, but didn't do much benchmarking after it
  • [07:37:14] <raster> yes - it can display that res - even 1600x1200 or 1902x1080 - if u reduce refresh
  • [07:37:17] <cwillu_at_work> moving speed is worse than scrolling speed
  • [07:37:23] <eFfeM-work> got sidetracked by too many other thigns
  • [07:37:31] <raster> an omap3 i wouldnt suggest going beyond 800x480 with - thats my suggestion
  • [07:37:40] <_av500_> raster: pah
  • [07:38:03] <_av500_> nobody forces you to X around
  • [07:38:36] <raster> _av500_: to x around?
  • [07:38:47] <_av500_> to use X :)
  • [07:38:53] <cwillu_at_work> raster, I'm already using a neon-optimized lib for the toolkit, was just responding to the implication that I could be doing this in any way that didn't involve the cpu moving the bits
  • [07:39:03] <raster> cwillu_at_work: moving should be about the same as its the same operation - unless there is also more involved - like compositor or wm is drawing shadows etc. etc.
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  • [07:39:24] <raster> cwillu_at_work: opengl-es is your only real choice there
  • [07:39:29] <raster> otherwise its the cpu
  • [07:39:33] <_av500_> or dma
  • [07:39:39] <cwillu_at_work> raster, tell that to _av500_ :p
  • [07:40:25] <raster> av500: dma is going to saturate the bus.. and u'd need dma to be able to read and write data in both forwards and backwars directions for it to replace a blitter
  • [07:40:34] <raster> also to be able to copy data on word boundaries
  • [07:40:38] <raster> not page boundaries etc.
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  • [07:40:41] <raster> not very likely
  • [07:40:42] <raster> :)
  • [07:40:53] <raster> not last time i saw dma engines...
  • [07:40:56] <raster> (in general)
  • [07:41:13] <_av500_> if u saturate the bus i does not matter how...
  • [07:41:34] <raster> true
  • [07:41:42] <_av500_> omap3 2d dma is quite capable
  • [07:41:44] <raster> cpu will end up "locked out" if it wants memory
  • [07:41:52] <raster> and dma will normally take priority over cpu mem access
  • [07:41:58] <raster> so it will end up a similar result
  • [07:42:02] <_av500_> but of course mem access an be totally bad in terms ofperf
  • [07:42:27] <raster> my suggestion is dont go above 800x480
  • [07:42:35] <raster> u are straining the bus just doing the video refresh
  • [07:42:39] <raster> drop refresh rate too
  • [07:42:48] <raster> dont go above 60hz
  • [07:42:54] <raster> keep res down
  • [07:43:02] <raster> goto 16bpp - tho that will impact image quality significantly
  • [07:43:04] <cwillu_at_work> you can stop telling me to drop the resolution now :p
  • [07:43:10] <cwillu_at_work> already at 16bpp
  • [07:43:36] <cwillu_at_work> wonder how low I can get away with dropping the refresh rate, hmm
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  • [07:44:28] <_av500_> raster: we do 720p decode at 1280x720x60
  • [07:44:43] <_av500_> and the decode part east many times more the output bw
  • [07:44:51] <raster> _av500_: sure.. u only need to do 30fps for that
  • [07:44:54] <_av500_> so, there is quite some mem bw available
  • [07:44:58] <raster> scrolling @ 30fps tho looks jerky
  • [07:45:02] <raster> u need to manage 60 :)
  • [07:45:14] <cwillu_at_work> no, scrolling at 5fps is jerky :)
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  • [07:45:31] <raster> _av500_: but thats also 1280x6720 - vs 1280x1024
  • [07:45:34] <_av500_> cwillu_at_work: that is wrong
  • [07:45:39] <raster> so... less bandwidth already
  • [07:45:47] <raster> yuv is also 12bits per rgb - not 16.. so yet less
  • [07:45:58] <raster> cwillu_at_work: 5fps? thats rediculoous.
  • [07:46:06] <_av500_> raster: each frame at 30 fps writes a ref in plana rand an output in interleaved, there you have already 60fps
  • [07:46:29] <raster> _av500_: but only at half the res
  • [07:46:36] <raster> so 30p or 60i
  • [07:46:38] <raster> :)
  • [07:46:48] <cwillu_at_work> raster, ridiculous that I'm trying to use it, or ridiculous that it's that slow even at that resolution?
  • [07:47:12] <raster> cwillu_at_work: 5fps it rediculous.. it shouldnt be that slow... at all.
  • [07:47:32] <raster> cwillu_at_work: this is crolling a fullscreen viewport? (or close to fs) ?
  • [07:47:38] <cwillu_at_work> yep
  • [07:47:44] <cwillu_at_work> dragging a window around is about the same
  • [07:47:51] <cwillu_at_work> this is in x, mind you
  • [07:48:23] <raster> whats your refresh rate?
  • [07:48:38] <cwillu_at_work> 57.something I believe
  • [07:48:42] <cwillu_at_work> let me check
  • [07:48:47] <raster> thats reasonable
  • [07:49:06] <raster> and 16bpp?
  • [07:49:11] <cwillu_at_work> yep
  • [07:49:20] <raster> you're runing at 1660mhz?
  • [07:49:26] <cwillu_at_work> ?
  • [07:49:30] <raster> err 600mhz
  • [07:49:33] <cwillu_at_work> 720, actually :p
  • [07:49:43] <raster> 720mhz? thats a bit overclocked
  • [07:49:52] <cwillu_at_work> 720 is c4's top rated speed
  • [07:49:52] <raster> hmm
  • [07:50:01] <cwillu_at_work> but 600 on my rev c3's
  • [07:50:05] <raster> all i ccan imagine is something is up with memory timings
  • [07:50:35] <raster> you should be getting more 30fpps for scrolling that res or so
  • [07:50:36] <_av500_> or somethin not setup correctly
  • [07:50:55] <raster> 5fps i cant see - unleess u have a compositor or something utterly inefficient betwene u and the fb
  • [07:50:57] <cwillu_at_work> so, like a kernel misconfiguration or something?
  • [07:51:28] <raster> maybe
  • [07:51:30] <raster> or bootloader
  • [07:51:40] <raster> no cpufreq running (ondemand etc.) ?
  • [07:51:46] <raster> that can really kill things
  • [07:51:48] <cwillu_at_work> stock uboot on c4, which is supposed to be adequate
  • [07:52:01] <raster> even if u hammer cpu i have found scheduling can become inconsistent
  • [07:52:22] <cwillu_at_work> ~80% idle cpu when not doing anything
  • [07:52:34] <raster> only 80%?
  • [07:52:34] <cwillu_at_work> er, not scrolling anything
  • [07:52:37] <cwillu_at_work> I'm doing stuff
  • [07:52:42] <raster> should be like 99.9% idle
  • [07:52:48] <raster> if ... idle
  • [07:52:57] <cwillu_at_work> it's not idle
  • [07:53:10] <raster> what else is going on
  • [07:53:11] <raster> ?
  • [07:53:26] <cwillu_at_work> one sec, checking something
  • [07:54:28] <cwillu_at_work> no change with that process killed (99.3% idle)
  • [07:54:39] <raster> thats more like ti :)
  • [07:54:54] <cwillu_at_work> still, if 80% idle makes things that bad, that's not really any better :p
  • [07:55:33] <raster> i know i know
  • [07:55:45] <cwillu_at_work> but in the interest of ruling things out... and so I ruled it out :)
  • [07:55:47] <raster> but i wouldnt have expected 99%+ idle when actually idle
  • [07:56:31] <raster> something is definitely up
  • [07:56:52] <raster> 60fps is going to be tough-ish when u account for everything
  • [07:57:05] <cwillu_at_work> hell, I'd be ecstatic with 20fps
  • [07:57:36] <raster> then again i'm rendering 100-200fps here @ 32bpp... opengl-es2.0 and sgx540... AND a compositor running too.
  • [07:57:50] <cwillu_at_work> and probably not running through x :p
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  • [07:58:13] <raster> but my requirements are silky-smooth scolling with alpha blending layers and i can live with 480x800 :)
  • [07:58:24] <raster> even that i think is too high
  • [07:58:56] <raster> d i'm running thru x too
  • [07:58:57] <raster> :)
  • [07:59:05] <raster> dont blame x... its not your problem
  • [07:59:08] <raster> its something else
  • [07:59:25] <raster> too often people just blame x - and they invariably have little to no clue
  • [07:59:42] <cwillu_at_work> the last time I brought this up, it was getting placed soundly on x's shoulders
  • [08:00:01] <raster> that'd be lack of clue
  • [08:00:17] <raster> neon or no neon - the cpu should be able to saturate the memory bus with copies
  • [08:00:47] <raster> x is squarely not to blame i can say that
  • [08:01:08] <raster> unless of course your toolkit is rendering via indirection and xrender (cairo)
  • [08:01:28] <cwillu_at_work> but even then, dragging a window around the screen should be quicker
  • [08:01:34] <cwillu_at_work> unless the wm is doing something
  • [08:01:49] <raster> correct
  • [08:01:55] <raster> as i said before
  • [08:02:09] <cwillu_at_work> sec, checking something :p
  • [08:02:21] <raster> if the wm is drawing shadows - or is compositing.. then u are taking a different path
  • [08:06:02] <cwillu_at_work> [ 0.000000] Clocking rate (Crystal/Core/MPU): 26.0/332/720 MHz is right, eh?
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  • [08:10:41] <cwillu_at_work> _av500_, could you be so kind as to pastebin a dmesg from one of these magical fast beagleboards? :)
  • [08:11:24] <_av500_> no can do, i am not on bb
  • [08:11:40] <cwillu_at_work> thought that's what you used for the videowall
  • [08:11:46] <cwillu_at_work> or you just don't have it handy
  • [08:12:15] <_av500_> i ma at home
  • [08:13:26] <raster> cwillu_at_work: not on a bb myswel either.. another cortex-a8 soc
  • [08:13:27] <_av500_> and i dont do much bb sw, we have our own hw...
  • [08:17:00] <cwillu_at_work> I'm getting about the same performance out moving an xterm around on xfwm4 --compositor=off
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  • [08:23:28] <raster> cwillu_at_work: there is somethgn pretty wrong somehwere.. not sure where tho
  • [08:23:42] <cwillu_at_work> would you like to see a dmesg?
  • [08:24:41] <cwillu_at_work> noticed the same performance on the preloaded angstrom builds included on my gumstix overo's last fall, that's pretty much what set my expectations
  • [08:24:59] <cwillu_at_work> (i.e., it was about what I've got now)
  • [08:25:37] <raster> hrrrrm
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  • [08:30:08] <cwillu_at_work> here, let me get you a dmesg :p
  • [08:30:42] <cwillu_at_work> http://pastebin.com/f669f2fa3
  • [08:35:56] <tsaaps> argh I just found out how to use "git grep"! ha this is great!!
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  • [08:37:00] <raster> cwillu_at_work: i dont notice anything that bad
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  • [08:41:16] <Vox_> Hello. It it possible to communicate PC - Beagle only throw USB 2.0 HS OTG (power and terminal) or it only can take power via usb and RS-232 serial completly obligatory?
  • [08:44:14] <cwillu_at_work> Vox_, didn't quite parse that, but you can power it over the otg port while using the otg port in device mode (and _only_ in device mode). That's what it's for
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  • [08:47:43] <Vox_> cwillu_at_work, can I emulate rs232 in device mode? It will be perfect to use only one cable
  • [08:48:28] <cwillu_at_work> Vox_, yep; could also be a network device, in which case you can ssh in multiple times :)
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  • [08:48:46] <cwillu_at_work> I think network is the default in fact
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  • [08:51:29] <Vox_> cwillu_at_work, thank you.
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  • [09:44:18] <kiran> hello all
  • [09:44:25] <kiran> i got beagle board
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  • [09:45:12] <venkat> hello all
  • [09:45:40] <venkat> where can i get the BSP for my beagleboard
  • [09:49:30] <NishanthMenon> venkat - :) kernel.org ;)
  • [09:50:03] <venkat> hey nishanth for my beagleboard where can i get the BSP
  • [09:50:29] <venkat> from kernel.org i can get kernel
  • [09:50:31] <NishanthMenon> hey venkat, go to kernel.org - you will get kernel
  • [09:50:39] <venkat> dats fine
  • [09:50:41] <NishanthMenon> which has beagleboard support
  • [09:50:41] <venkat> next
  • [09:50:49] <NishanthMenon> next compile it, run it
  • [09:50:58] <NishanthMenon> what is it that you seek? ;)
  • [09:51:32] <NishanthMenon> venkat, you can get more info http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard
  • [09:51:57] <venkat> its ok whre about BSP concept is it inbuilt in board?
  • [09:52:08] <NishanthMenon> BSP stands for?
  • [09:52:18] <venkat> BOARD SUPPORT PACKAGE
  • [09:52:23] <NishanthMenon> aaah
  • [09:52:33] <NishanthMenon> it is a s/w package then rt?
  • [09:52:46] <venkat> correct
  • [09:52:47] <NishanthMenon> consisting of a kernel, bootloader, filesystem etc?
  • [09:52:56] <NishanthMenon> so that you can build your own system?
  • [09:52:57] <venkat> so should i degvelop that package?
  • [09:53:12] <NishanthMenon> beagleboard is a community platform.. so as i pointed out above...
  • [09:53:46] <NishanthMenon> the link should give you all of those, in fact you can choose what kind of filesytem you like - e.g. if you like a distrib like ubuntu/angstrom etc..
  • [09:53:56] <NishanthMenon> there is info on that link for it
  • [09:54:01] <NishanthMenon> does that help?
  • [09:54:05] <XorA> the best BSP for bealge is found at www.angstrom-distribution.org
  • [09:54:07] <venkat> nishanth u tell me the things like what should i do if i want to run lun on my board
  • [09:55:38] <NishanthMenon> lun as in http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/dsichelp/ds8000ic/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.storage.ssic.help.doc/f2c_linlunprobe_1e69my.html ? i have'nt heard of native scsi support on OMAP..
  • [09:55:55] <NishanthMenon> mebbe others can help
  • [09:57:08] <venkat> so you people say BSP is combination of boot loader, kernel and file system is it?
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  • [09:58:31] <hrw> morning
  • [09:58:50] <NishanthMenon> venkat, any suggestions on what else is required for a linux development?
  • [09:59:04] <NishanthMenon> oh yeah compiler - but most folks usually use the codesourcery ones
  • [09:59:17] * XorA coughs
  • [09:59:26] <NishanthMenon> :D
  • [09:59:43] <venkat> nishanth iam bit confusing about bootloader and bsp
  • [10:00:11] <XorA> venkat: if you just want something you can run and get stuff out of hdmi I really suggest using angstrom
  • [10:00:33] <venkat> K
  • [10:01:01] <XorA> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/narcissus/ will generate an image after a few simple questions
  • [10:01:38] <XorA> combine that with info on beagleboard.org and you will be well on your way to happiness
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  • [11:37:13] <newguy> Hi, i am trying to use Angstrom onlune build system for beagleboard images. I ran the wizard and got 2 files test3-image-beagleboard.tar.bz2 and test3-image-beagleboard-sd-1GiB.img.gz.
  • [11:37:37] <newguy> I understand that first one is the FS but how do i use the second file..?
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  • [11:40:46] <venkat_> Hey what is the need of the driver development in linux when all drivers source code is available \
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  • [11:42:04] <buZz> venkat: the source code is available because of driver development
  • [11:43:23] <venkat> correct if i want to work with beagleboard there is no necessaty for me to write the source code from scratch right?
  • [11:43:58] <_av500_> a few 100.000 lines will be enough...
  • [11:44:21] <buZz> venkat: what do you want to write?
  • [11:45:47] <venkat> say if i want to write lcd driver in linux for beagleboard
  • [11:46:18] <_av500_> what lcd?
  • [11:46:23] <venkat> i interfaced LCD with beagleboard den how can i enable my lcd in workng conditions
  • [11:46:26] <buZz> for the screen? you can extend the DSS2 driver with more screen support
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  • [11:46:42] <venkat> 3"5 innch NEC lcd
  • [11:46:42] <buZz> but i think a lot of screens are already working
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  • [11:47:58] <venkat> correct buZZ u got my doubt now?i interfaced LCD with beagleboard 3"5 inch LCD so what i do in software should i write driver from scracth for that
  • [11:49:03] <buZz> well, i don't really understand
  • [11:49:20] <buZz> but there are some example screens in the DSS2 source
  • [11:49:38] <buZz> i guess you could add your LCD to it aswell
  • [11:49:52] <buZz> depending on your knowledge :P
  • [11:52:38] <venkat> if idat lcd is available already in source code den?
  • [11:53:26] <buZz> then you would need to enable it
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  • [11:55:04] <venkat> how can i enable?
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  • [11:58:29] <buZz> by configuring the kernel before you build it
  • [11:59:38] <venkat> so u want to say like i just need to change port pins according to my board connections correct
  • [12:00:59] <buZz> well i would match it the other way around, not hookup a random screen and fix the source, but let the source dictate the connections
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  • [12:26:12] <venkat> hey buZZ u can say like if it is available we just need to configure or else we should develop the code from scratch and add to drivers is it?
  • [12:27:26] <buZz> we?
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  • [12:28:34] <_av500_> venkat: you dont have to write code from scratch
  • [12:28:47] <venkat> then?
  • [12:28:53] <_av500_> but also, most likely it is not just a kernel config to be done
  • [12:29:17] <_av500_> so it is somewhere between... find an lcd that is similar and adapt
  • [12:29:25] <anunakin> Any here have any ideia on how to use a Olimex RJ45 module with ENC28J60? there is some info http://elinux.org/Enc28j60 , but not a how to ...
  • [12:29:48] <_av500_> most likely that is already in the kernel
  • [12:30:20] <_koen_> isn't that the same as on the zippy?
  • [12:30:50] <_av500_> i think so
  • [12:30:55] <venkat> hey AV500 suppose if design one board based on omap so how to follow regarding firmware tell me
  • [12:31:08] <buZz> lol
  • [12:32:26] <venkat> buzz u got it now
  • [12:32:42] <_av500_> u got the buzz!
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  • [12:34:40] <buZz> :)
  • [12:34:54] <buZz> av500 is an archos mediaplayer, right? :D
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  • [12:53:59] <_av500_> yes
  • [12:55:18] <buZz> :P
  • [12:55:22] * buZz has a gmini500
  • [12:55:30] <_av500_> cool
  • [12:55:42] <_av500_> u are my little brother then
  • [12:55:45] <buZz> sorta, kinda limited
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  • [12:59:14] <jkridner> good morning all
  • [12:59:25] <_av500_> gm jkridner
  • [13:01:46] <anunakin> any way to test android?
  • [13:01:52] <anunakin> I getting this error
  • [13:01:55] <anunakin> fatal: read error (Connection reset by peer)
  • [13:01:55] <anunakin> Fetching projects: 5% (7/140) fatal: read error (Connection reset by peer)
  • [13:01:55] <anunakin> error: Cannot fetch repo/android/platform/development
  • [13:01:57] <jkridner> hi _av500_
  • [13:02:29] <jkridner> anunakin: which one you trying to pull?
  • [13:02:35] <anunakin> or this stuck on count files
  • [13:02:38] <anunakin> eclair
  • [13:02:42] <jkridner> Embinux/Rowboat/NthCode/?
  • [13:02:51] <anunakin> http://labs.embinux.org/index.php/Android-Eclair_porting_guide_to_BeagleBoard
  • [13:03:08] <anunakin> I tring follow it
  • [13:03:12] <jkridner> k. If you just wanted Donut, Rowboat feed should be working.
  • [13:03:17] <jkridner> ARowboat.org
  • [13:03:22] <anunakin> ok
  • [13:03:40] <jkridner> Seems like the Embinux guys have been saying that their feed has been down, but should be back up.
  • [13:05:16] <anunakin> "donuts" are rootfs tarballz?
  • [13:06:57] <_koen_> donuts is what law enforcement people survive on
  • [13:07:18] <jkridner> Donut is the version before Eclair.
  • [13:07:28] <jkridner> There are tarballs.
  • [13:09:47] <anunakin> ah
  • [13:09:51] <anunakin> hahahha
  • [13:12:10] <_koen_> it follows alphabetical order
  • [13:12:22] <_koen_> C -> D -> E -> F -> G
  • [13:12:46] <_koen_> although there is some confusion whether F is flan or frozen yoghurt
  • [13:13:52] <dougztr> Fruitcake
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  • [13:15:12] <_av500_> froyo
  • [13:16:27] <dougztr> Check out these Mini-A cables for Beagle, I got 2 and they work perfect -> http://www.vernier.com/accessories/access.html?usb-mini&template=basic.html
  • [13:16:30] * mru is still waiting for Waffle
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  • [13:16:42] <mru> maybe be then it'll be usable
  • [13:18:11] <dougztr> The website says the cables are only for TI-84+ calculators, but I'm running a hard drive from one of them successfully
  • [13:19:09] <hrw> dougztr: vernier.com?
  • [13:19:13] <dougztr> yeah
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  • [13:21:14] <dougztr> With shipping, for 2 of them it was about $20
  • [13:22:42] <dougztr> I have a wireless RF keyboard dongle plugged in to my igep board with one also and its working, the dongle is usb 1.1 and draws 55mW so I reasoned it should work on the OTG port, and it does
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  • [13:56:33] <_koen_> raster: ping
  • [13:59:28] <raster> _koen_: poon
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  • [14:01:35] <_koen_> raster: is there a simple way to have a text on the e17 background that reads its contents from a file?
  • [14:01:45] <raster> _koen_: a module
  • [14:01:51] <_koen_> raster: in my case I want to display the contents /etc/hostname
  • [14:02:26] <raster> u'd need to write a module to do that
  • [14:02:37] <_koen_> hmmm
  • [14:02:40] <raster> as nothing just goes and does that kind of thing generically
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  • [14:02:56] <raster> its easy enough to do
  • [14:03:06] <buZz> raster: well, stuff like conky does
  • [14:03:18] <raster> u just need to get over the "write a module" hump
  • [14:03:30] <raster> buZz: nothing for e17 does
  • [14:03:40] <buZz> ah, conky doesnt work on e17?
  • [14:03:47] <raster> it will
  • [14:03:50] <raster> it wont be transparent
  • [14:03:54] <raster> it wont sit on your desktop
  • [14:04:02] <buZz> awww boohoo
  • [14:04:04] <raster> it will have a window like a regular windows app.. because it is a regular windowed app
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  • [14:04:29] <_koen_> raster: plan B was do sed out a know string in the .src files and run edje_cc on them during bootup :)
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  • [14:04:56] <raster> _koen_: just write a small module - seriously. first time is hard. like anything. u dont want to get into it
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  • [14:05:02] <raster> but.. once u have one.. your 2nd will be easy
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  • [14:05:05] <raster> 3rd will be a walk in the park
  • [14:05:24] <raster> most of a module is template "init me" module code
  • [14:05:34] <raster> of such a small module that is
  • [14:05:43] <raster> outsie the init, shutdown, module info struct etc.
  • [14:05:55] <raster> u just want to make a text object
  • [14:06:00] <raster> or an edje object so u can style it nicely
  • [14:06:02] <raster> anmd set the string
  • [14:06:13] <raster> (well open file, set string, from file content)
  • [14:12:23] <anunakin> can anyone help me on install rowboat on my BeagleBoard?
  • [14:13:04] <_av500_> place boat on board
  • [14:13:27] <_av500_> and maybe ask in #rowboat
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  • [14:18:51] <ogra> _koen_, can you use an svg as wallpaper ? ... just put some text on it and sed the xml :)
  • [14:19:27] <_koen_> that might be option as well :)
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  • [14:24:59] <sakoman_> _koen_: is read-edid the utility you were using on beagle a while back?
  • [14:26:29] <_koen_> iirc, yes
  • [14:26:50] <sakoman_> I thought so :-(
  • [14:26:54] <sakoman_> lrmi.c:15:22: error: asm/vm86.h: No such file or directory
  • [14:27:03] <sakoman_> doesn't build any more
  • [14:28:17] <sakoman_> _koen_: on other fronts -- I did a clean build of the gnome stuff with the new policykit recipe. most everything seems OK with the exception of gnome-system-tools
  • [14:29:08] <sakoman_> the system tools don't allow changes -- so we seem to have issue with policy somewhere. Have you seen this?
  • [14:29:38] <_koen_> yes
  • [14:29:48] <_koen_> check for at_console in the dbus config files
  • [14:29:56] <_koen_> our PAM doesn't support at_console yet
  • [14:30:07] <_koen_> (at_console being fundamentally flawed anyway)
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  • [14:37:24] <sakoman_> _koen_: do you have a patch queued to fix that?
  • [14:38:18] <_koen_> no, but fixing at_console is on the TODO
  • [14:38:53] <sakoman_> _koen_: good! I'm still mucking about in x-load, u-boot, and the kernel
  • [14:39:14] <sakoman_> jumping up to user space in the middle of all that hurts my brain :-)
  • [14:39:33] <XorA> hehe
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  • [14:44:16] <sakoman_> _koen_: btw, thanks for the XM u-boot patches. I'll add them in my git
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  • [14:49:06] * djlewis thinks a Beagle would be happier riding in a rowboat rather than the other.
  • [14:49:09] <djlewis> gm
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  • [14:56:55] <prpplague> djlewis: greetings
  • [14:57:02] <prpplague> greetings earthlings
  • [14:57:12] * prpplague hands djlewis a cup of coffee
  • [14:57:42] <djlewis> ahhh, tnx prpplague , much better
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  • [15:10:54] <XorA> hmm, making at_console work should be as simple as adding pam_console to out pam.d scripts
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  • [15:39:27] <tomba> anyone know how quick the transition on the line can be for OMAP's edge triggered GPIO interrupt? if the line is asserted for multiple microseconds, is that enough?
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  • [15:53:52] <sakoman_> tomba: if TI is using the standard defintion of "edge triggered", the length of assertion shouldn't matter
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  • [16:07:11] <sakoman_> tomba: well, it turns out that TI doesn't use the standard definition of edge-triggered :-)
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  • [16:07:51] <sakoman_> tomba: see section 24.4.1.1 of spruf98d.pdf
  • [16:08:33] <sakoman_> tomba: there are minimum pulse width requirements (both before and after level transitions)
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  • [16:09:58] <sakoman_> tomba: the level must be stable for "at least two times the internally gated interface clock period"
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  • [16:14:31] <tomba> sakoman_: hmm ok, thanks. I wonder what that period is =)
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  • [16:15:15] <sakoman_> tomba: that will require figuring out what the interface clock period is ;-)
  • [16:15:26] <sakoman_> I have no clue :-(
  • [16:16:05] <sakoman_> probably will have to poke around in the clock code to see what it is set to
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  • [16:19:02] <tomba> it still sounds like the minimum is quite a short time. In this case the line would be asserted for something like 19 microseconds. but I guess I need to study this further to be sure =)
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  • [16:20:06] <tomba> sakoman_: wait, that line you pasted is about level triggered
  • [16:20:31] <tomba> or is it... confusing =)
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  • [16:24:38] <sakoman_> tomba: I found it confusing too
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  • [16:25:46] <sakoman_> tomba: but this sentance led me to believe that it does apply: "This minimum pulse width must be met before and after any expected level transition detection"
  • [16:26:33] <sakoman_> To be positive we probably need someone from TI to confirm
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  • [16:27:40] <sakoman_> tomba: if your signal is asserted for 19 usec that ought to be plenty -- I can't imagine that the edge detection wouldn't work for something of that duration!
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  • [16:31:43] <siji> Starting PVR
  • [16:31:44] <siji> [ 192.557098] PVRSRV_PIXEL_FORMAT_RGB888
  • [16:31:44] <siji> [ 192.557098] EGL library does not support RGB888 !!!
  • [16:31:54] <siji> I tried different bootargs
  • [16:32:03] <siji> but still getting the same
  • [16:32:10] <siji> using Angstrom
  • [16:32:23] <siji> with kernel 2.6.29
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  • [16:40:00] <siji> help pls
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  • [17:25:34] <torusle> siji, hm. maybe it just doesn't support the RGB888 config.. EGL has an API to list all available configurations..
  • [17:25:48] <torusle> how about dumping them...
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  • [17:39:07] <prpplague> siji: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/1381c55073dca118#
  • [17:39:14] <prpplague> siji: read through that post
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  • [17:42:15] <siji> Hi
  • [17:42:18] <siji> I solved it
  • [17:42:37] <siji> I did a slight modification in bootarg
  • [17:42:52] <prpplague> siji: what did you change?
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  • [17:43:47] <siji> setenv bootargs 'console=ttyS2,115200n8 console=tty0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootwait rootfstype=ext3 ro omapfb.mode=dvi:1024x600MR-16@60'
  • [17:43:51] <siji> this was i tried
  • [17:43:57] <siji> and i changed that ro to rw
  • [17:44:03] <siji> and it starts working
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  • [17:45:25] <prpplague> siji: did you also change the omapfb mode?
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  • [17:46:11] <siji> yes
  • [17:46:31] <prpplague> siji: ahh ok
  • [17:46:52] <prpplague> siji: well you can use ARGB8888 if you want
  • [17:47:03] <prpplague> siji: http://wiki.davincidsp.com/index.php/GSG:_OMAP35x_Graphics_SDK_Additional_Procedures#Testing_the_support_for_ARGB8888_in_Frame_Buffer_Driver
  • [17:47:10] <siji> ok
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  • [17:47:17] <siji> let me hve a look on it
  • [17:47:52] <siji> see my basic requirement is to run clutter application
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  • [18:06:49] <Sirisian> Where can I buy a beagleboard?
  • [18:07:00] <Sirisian> They're sold out everywhere I look.
  • [18:07:14] <Sirisian> Or is this pretty normal to wait like 30 weeks to get one?
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  • [18:10:34] <Crofton> Sirisian, Digikey should be getting stock weekly
  • [18:10:42] <Crofton> there backorder times are bad
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  • [18:11:00] <Crofton> you can double check on the mailing list, but it is a FAQ
  • [18:11:01] <Crofton> :)
  • [18:11:19] <Sirisian> yeah I have one at digikey ordered already
  • [18:11:26] <Sirisian> I guess I'll wait
  • [18:11:32] <Crofton> when did you order?
  • [18:12:24] <Sirisian> a day ago. I'm not in a rush. really
  • [18:12:27] <Sirisian> -.
  • [18:13:19] <Crofton> heh
  • [18:13:21] <Crofton> you should be ok
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  • [18:25:40] <Crofton> sakoman_, the mmc card works with the .32 kernel
  • [18:25:57] <sakoman_> Crofton: excellent!
  • [18:26:20] <Crofton> now to learn dma
  • [18:26:32] <Crofton> back to .33 rc something for that ....
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  • [18:28:08] <djlewis_> morning again.. :)
  • [18:28:31] <prpplague> djlewis_: ?? did you go back to bed?
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  • [18:44:12] <ds2> morning
  • [18:45:44] <Splash> Can somebody help me to get the newest gspca driver into the 2.6.29 kernel of OE? http://linuxtv.org/hg/~hgoede/gspca/ There's one patch that allows my camera to run at up to 125fps but there seems to be a completely different driver strucuture between 2.6.29 and now. So I can't apply the patch
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  • [18:48:52] <ltaps> does anyone know how to disable the chroma on the OMAP do switch from svideo to composite mode?
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  • [18:51:22] <eFfeM> Splash: no idea on how to get the driver in, but interested to learn what cam it is 125 fps sounds nice
  • [18:53:45] <Splash> eFfeM: It's the playstation eye.
  • [18:54:22] <eFfeM> ah ok, thanks
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  • [18:58:05] <eFfeM> looks like a nice cam
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  • [18:59:09] <ds2> which patch?
  • [19:02:20] <djlewis_> prpplague: nope, went to the office...
  • [19:02:36] <_av500_> ltaps: change one bit in the kernel?
  • [19:03:58] <ltaps> Can I change the chroma enable bit from the command line? or do I need to recompile a driver?
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  • [19:04:37] <_av500_> ltaps: command line I dont know, read the dss2 docs/source to see if that is exposed to user space
  • [19:04:58] <_av500_> driver, yes, I guess it is somewhere in the dss2/omapfb stuff
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  • [19:06:18] <learnIt> hello all
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  • [19:41:35] <Crofton> registering for new arm website .....
  • [19:41:47] * Crofton forgot what the old one looked like :)
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  • [19:44:25] <prpplague> Crofton: ??
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  • [19:45:21] <Crofton> I got an email saying they had a new website
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  • [19:48:02] <prpplague> Crofton: ahh
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  • [20:15:24] <djlewis_> prpplague: ya gotta keep DK on there toes ;)
  • [20:17:07] <prpplague> djlewis_: hehe, fortunately i don't have to deal with those issues
  • [20:17:39] <prpplague> djlewis_: would be nice if they had the zippy2 listed on the beagle page as an accessory
  • [20:17:48] * prpplague sends an email to digikey rep
  • [20:20:06] <djlewis_> prpplague: is dealing with those issues ... hehee
  • [20:20:06] <fisch_> hi
  • [20:20:13] <djlewis_> lo
  • [20:21:14] <prpplague> Crofton: you made any progress on your board?
  • [20:21:27] <Crofton> yeah
  • [20:21:30] <Crofton> sd card works :)
  • [20:21:35] <prpplague> Crofton: dandy
  • [20:21:38] <Crofton> yeah
  • [20:21:42] <prpplague> Crofton: what did you have to do?
  • [20:21:42] <ds2> Crofton: what was the problem?
  • [20:21:44] <fisch_> is musb_hdrc working with 2.6.33-rc7?
  • [20:21:50] <Crofton> the level shifter is a microscopic chip
  • [20:22:12] <Crofton> there is something in sakoman's kernel tree that makes it work
  • [20:22:17] <ds2> the microstar bgas?
  • [20:22:26] <Crofton> not sure, too small to read :)
  • [20:22:39] <ds2> no 10x loupe handy? :D
  • [20:22:39] <Crofton> my concern is in some other stuff atm
  • [20:22:47] <Crofton> heh
  • [20:22:52] <prpplague> Crofton: ahh so it was just a software issue?
  • [20:22:56] <Crofton> yeah
  • [20:23:01] <prpplague> dandy
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  • [21:05:26] <robtow> Good afternoon.
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  • [21:17:12] <djlewis_> yo robtow
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  • [22:00:01] <opinion8d> by chance anyone here try the Angstrom build from 20090903 ? having a problem getting past the Language setup screen despite dmesg successfully recognizing my mouse
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  • [22:33:10] <Crofton> Someone needs to write a hello, world dma example ....
  • [22:33:58] <ds2> which DMA? :D
  • [22:34:19] <Crofton> eh
  • [22:34:22] <Crofton> omap3 :)
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  • [22:36:09] <ds2> the OMAP3 has many different DMAs
  • [22:36:31] <ds2> but for some examples, look at the McBSP and MUSB drivers
  • [22:36:38] <ds2> or the McSPI
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  • [22:51:40] <Crofton> yeah
  • [22:51:50] <Crofton> I am in the sound stuff atm
  • [22:52:05] <Crofton> what I want to do is copy from one place in memory to another
  • [22:53:54] <mru> that's what dma does...
  • [22:54:13] <mru> from userspace?
  • [22:55:45] <ds2> did someone seperate out the McBSP drivers? it used to be sound stuff | McBSP | HW
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  • [22:56:13] <ds2> Mmmmm DMA'ing from unmapped pages....
  • [22:56:47] <torusle> Crofton, the QDMA part of EDMA3 is *really* easy.
  • [22:57:12] <Crofton> if you know what those words mean :)
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  • [22:57:37] <ds2> it can't be that hard... shove in a destination, size, and source...the hit go
  • [22:57:37] <ds2> ;)
  • [22:57:40] <torusle> Crofton, wait a minute.. I can write you a very simple example.
  • [22:57:42] <Crofton> yeah, working through the omap dma.h file
  • [22:58:02] <Crofton> torusle, even if it does not work, it would be helpful :)
  • [22:58:03] <ds2> trick of course is to figure out what the destination/source addresses should be :D
  • [22:58:37] <Crofton> source is something in gpmc space, dst is something I allocate in kernel space
  • [22:59:08] <ds2> IIRC, some DMA's want a physical address, others might take a virtual address
  • [22:59:36] <ds2> think mru was the person who pointed that little detail out
  • [23:00:03] <torusle> Crofton, I can send you something via email, but please don't release it...
  • [23:00:06] <Crofton> man omap_request_dma :)
  • [23:00:21] <torusle> Crofton, it's part of a freelance job I'm doing.
  • [23:00:29] <torusle> Crofton, email?
  • [23:00:32] <Crofton> torusle, ultimaely, this needs to go into a public kernel driver :(
  • [23:00:51] <torusle> Crofton, well. use it as a boilerplate to get things working...
  • [23:00:59] <Crofton> that is fine then :)
  • [23:01:02] <torusle> Crofton, you don't want to use it "as it" anyways..
  • [23:01:04] <Crofton> just need to be clear
  • [23:01:08] <Crofton> thanks
  • [23:01:10] <ds2> torusle: wouldn't it be safer to point him to specific lines in a driver?
  • [23:01:24] <torusle> Crofton, aehm.. speaking of kernel driver.. there is the edma-driver in the linuxutils package from Ti... how about this?
  • [23:01:27] <Crofton> ds2, I understand what he means
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  • [23:01:35] <Crofton> hmmm
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  • [23:01:44] <torusle> ds2, I haven't read much kernel source yet..
  • [23:01:49] <ds2> ah
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  • [23:04:37] <torusle> Crofton, you've got mail...
  • [23:04:48] <torusle> 180 lines that may change your life (or not). :-)
  • [23:05:04] <Crofton> thanks
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  • [23:05:19] <Crofton> I'm definitely at the point I need to just start trying stuff
  • [23:05:50] <torusle> it only uses polling for completion... I have left out the interrupt stuff.. oh - and it only supports two qdma channels. (because that's what I need).
  • [23:06:43] <Crofton> thanks
  • [23:06:48] <torusle> no problem.
  • [23:07:24] <Crofton> the edma thing from linuutils, looks like some kind of device driver to do dma operations from user space?
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  • [23:10:11] <torusle> Crofton, yep. that what the driver does.
  • [23:10:21] <Crofton> interesting
  • [23:10:31] <Crofton> edma is the davinci word
  • [23:10:41] <Crofton> omsp3 calls it sdma?
  • [23:11:19] <torusle> Crofton, the sdma is the system-dma controller. EDMA3 sits on the dsp-side..
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  • [23:11:40] <torusle> it's separate (different power-domain, different clock ect..).
  • [23:11:54] <torusle> can be used from the arm nonetheless.
  • [23:11:57] <Crofton> ah
  • [23:11:58] <Crofton> ok
  • [23:13:54] <torusle> Crofton, from which core do you want to do the dma btw? ARM?
  • [23:14:02] <Crofton> arm
  • [23:14:36] <torusle> if so you have to enable access in the DSP mmu and pass physical pointers to the DMA. Otherwise it won't work.
  • [23:14:44] <Crofton> I am guessing this is dsp side?
  • [23:14:53] <torusle> yes, it is..
  • [23:15:12] <Crofton> ah
  • [23:15:19] <Crofton> good, I can tell the difference :)
  • [23:15:23] <torusle> the only dsp specific stuff is the _pack2 intrinsic though.
  • [23:15:30] <Crofton> one day we will want this to work also :)
  • [23:15:37] <Crofton> urg, need coffee
  • [23:15:51] <torusle> needs tee.
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  • [23:20:55] <ds2> need frappacino ;)
  • [23:21:10] * mru feeds coffee into Crofton's dma
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  • [23:25:21] <trelane> florian, greetings agian
  • [23:25:28] <trelane> Crofton, figured out my wifi issues about 20 minutes ago
  • [23:25:35] <trelane> QRM :/
  • [23:25:39] <trelane> moving the module fixed it
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  • [23:37:22] <trelane> would someone mind pastebinning their /etc/asound.conf and asound.state?
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  • [23:45:23] <Crofton> trelane, 2.4 GHz is getting crowded these days
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  • [23:48:34] <trelane> Crofton, yep it is
  • [23:50:23] <trelane> Crofton, I'm trying to get the stereo on the summit to work simply as stereo in (which can be set as the alsa recording soruce) and stereo out
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  • [23:51:30] <slmood> hello all
  • [23:52:07] <slmood> any of you that can help with flyswatter jtag with the c3 beagleboard?
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